10 Critical Hunting Land Buying Mistakes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ธ.ค. 2023
- For some folks, buying hunting land may be the largest non-home investment of their lives. in fact land often had the ability to deliver a much higher return on an individual's investment. For others, buying deer hunting land is just a small part of a balanced portfolio. Regardless of your financial status, you still can't afford to make these coming deer hunting land buying mistakes...
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Big reminder that no matter how much sweat equity you put into the property, you can't turn a bad neighborhood into a hunting nirvana. It won't put booners in your property if the area doesn't have any. Location is everything.
Jeff. I have been a loyal follower for quite some time now and I am almost financially ready to buy some property or manage two family farms through my wife’s side of the family through a will. I cannot wait to get ahold of you guys from day 1 so I can do this right. I hear great things about Kevan and the work he does for you. I think I got a lot of good opportunities here in central Pennsylvania.
Best video yet.!
Thank you Bryan, I hope it helps!
All good points. #10 be careful with a property that is enrolled in MFL. The realtor will market it as lower taxes, which is true. But check out the requirements of the plan before buying. In order to satisfy the plan, it may require what amounts to a clear cut. Yes, you will get paid for the timber, but you may also end up with a bunch of stumps.
Some of the best Bucks ive taken were coming from the Public on one side of the property...Having public land next to your property can give you more areas to hunt and so forth... Have a good new years everyone!😆
Great advise, but i would suggest buying as much land as you can afford, even if it stretches you. I have never regretted buying a big parcel even if I couldn't manage it all at once. Real estate appreciates. Great Channel!
I've seen many clients that bought too much land, so they can afford to take care of it. They have to rent the AG...which is a very poor investment...can't make the habitat improvements thru need and end up having a bad hunting parcel.
You are far better off buying land that can actually afford to manage completely. By another, smaller parcel if you want to stretch yourself and even if you can't afford to work on it, at least you have 1 complete parcel. Bigger is only better if you can afford to do the work that's needed on it. Time and money is a real factor. For example on our 255acres it would take a 20 hour work week for the entire year, approximately. And that's not counting the excavator. That's not counting the 40 acres we manage in WI.
Only buy what you have the resources to manage...or you end up with a very expensive chunk of bad hunting land where someone next to you with 1/2 the size but does it right...builds the deer herd and shoots all of the deer.
Happy new year Jeff!
Happy New Year Peter!
Great Video!
Love that Hat 🧢
Thanks a lot Carlo, Happy New Year!
Thanks Jeff
You are very welcome!
man, great points... I always said, you are typically as good or bad as your neighborhood... so true in PA especially with the highest pressure per sq mile than any other state...
Amen Jim!
Can’t wait to get y’all on my property
Thanks Jon...we can't wait either 😊
Interesting Jeff, S.E. Mn. winona county, I will dive deeper into your playlist of videos.....looking for tips, tricks and statagies on logging a parcel. Just overall things to consider and think about.
Hi Randy! I hope some of the info from today's video helps...
#5. Pasture land! I have 12 acre pasture on northwest corner of property we bought last summer looking to improve for deer/ wildlife. We made improvements on east side of property, Mostly food plots. Had very successful 2023! Cow"s will not be back this year. There is a 4 acre thicket on the south side and 30 acre 10 year cutover on the east side of the pasture which is in center of the property. Dirt rd to the north w/ a 200 acre cornfield on the other side. Neighbor gravel driveway on the west. Pasture has very nice rolling terrain. Basically 3 ridges and 2 low water ways that run north/south. My question is.... Would you set this pasture up like a separate property (food /cover/water), or just add a similar food plot as the other 2 letting the rest of pasture just naturally grow up. .That cutover being centrally located to all food plots. I will add the we flew our drone and none of neighbors have food plots. Thanks Kevin
I FINALLY was able to find a very small farm and buy it out of state. I will say that there are some VERY lucrative government programs out there for things to pay for work on your farm and/or cover crop benefits. I'm excited to start getting to work on this place just in time for interest rates to reignite the market in the next 12-18 months.
That's awesome Alex! There are some awesome programs ..and then some not so awesome that look awesome. I've seen so many dollars spent for very bad results. Landowners saved thousands but spent thousands too, for bad results. Be very, very careful...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 true, that being said I'm probably going to get a majority of the work that I have to do without any programs. EQIP can be a very good choice especially if there is a lot of TSI work needed for cost share $ BUT it's not worth delaying work. Foresters in my experience are over the moon excited to mark timber (little/ no cost?!) for land owners to do proper TSI.
I have a question what I should do to have more deer on my property. I have 10 acres and not much cover mostly brush. What should I do to make it better?
What about buying timber land that has open powerlines and some old open cuts. Is it worth working? Were up in the northeast. Near impossible to find ag or land with any type of a fiekd
i ask you couple weeks ago about small plots now i would to know what to put in thank you
In NE Iowa our crp with lots of switchgrass brought all the wildlife back. I grew up here and as a kid u shoot a pheasant everyone would would hang u. Now they want u shoot all the roosters. Almost overpopulated. But yes CRP is strickt. Its for wildlife but u can't makè a trail. I make a trail and so dose my neighbors because we're not going to hit nesting birds. We even have a ton of woodcoks back. Bog beaked birds flying at u going to the stand and coming back. CRP and burning paid off here. Lots of switch grass.
How would you set up a 25-30 acre hard wood hollar
More acres no doubt is more work but its also more depth. Most improvements require mainly sweat equity not big money.
Hachet, herbicide, chainsaw, and a drip torch will do 90% of whats needed.
With the price of Ag land I can't image the farmers are even coming out too far ahead unless purchase price was a deal much less a non farming hunter. I would stick with more of lesser quality brush.
Do you have any research on the dollar value add to your property of the habitat changes you implement? As in do established food plots, bedding areas, history of big bucks, etc add any real value to your property?
No dollar amount, but I would be willing to be 5 to 10% on average. HOWEVER, folks are becoming educated. There are companies out there that "design" land to sell, but do it poorly. In those cases educated folks actually consider the cost to redo the land correctly (or have us come out), as an additional cost of the land. Pretty food plots, bedding areas and stand locations are pretty ugly and costly for time and money, if they are not installed in the right location.
My parents' land is in an MFL program and I absolutely hate it. Virtually all of our woods is a barren wasteland at ground level due to the canopy.
Then it isn't being managed properly. MFL should be arranging some cuts to harvest some mature timber for new growth. At least that is how ours works. There should be a plan in place regarding timber harvest.
Good stuff here. What are your thoughts on buying a completely un touched peoperty. All timber?
A whole lot of work. Now if it's all por timber quality with natural openings and diversity that's awesome. But all timber is really a whole lot of work...years. often you can find a better parcel that is better right now, than an all timber parcel will be in 10 years or more.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 depends a lot on price. In 10 years I guarantee you that all timber piece will be worth more than it is now. Find a way to put sweat equity in and increase the value and maybe it could be a stepping stone for us regular guys to that dream farm that you have..
👍🦌🤸 TY
You are very welcome!
What do you think of planting a screen of Egyptian wheat on the backside of property where I access so the hunters on the neighboring property can’t see the deer? On our side
I would lean towards something more long-term
Hi Drew! I like that idea for the first year or two. Then you want something permanent like Switchgrass...or even conifers or miscanthus depending on the overall height needed.
We sell a screening blend that has been the best for me over the last 20 years, but even then that is for short term...1 to 2 years at best. Switchgrass can be long term, if the height is ok. Otherwise conifers and miscanthus can be a better option depending on the length needed.
Would southern Indiana be a 1 day visit or 3 day fly in? About 20 min north of Louisville KY
Hi Clinton! Normally a 1 day fee if other clients are in the area. My trips are booked by location for the year and I only have a few holes at that thru September, but that may be a possibility in 25...not sure tho. However, Joe may be down that way as a drive to this year...thanking he will.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks a lot. Is it possible to get on a wait/call list to be notified when you have other clients in the area?
I dont think so...Public land is way harder to pull a nice buck then private land...that's just a no brainer.
Harder to shoot a big buck, much easier with a LOT less overall and work to actually shoot a buck. This after shooting over 30 bucks on public land with a bow and gun in 3 states...and over 70 bucks on private land in 4 states...all DIY. I hunt public every year to relax 😉
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Yes sir!
Usaully some rich bastard that has his ground in the program because taxes are just so high lol