I’m watching this to learn it when it comes to MD. I’m looking at the profile and figuring out to change it to fit the tax looks so annoying. U woukd have to cut the non engine down, but the main benefit is u use the non engine to counter snakes. At least u can use elf to recur diviner which is always a cool interaction. Cheers for the vid!
I’m so stoked for this archetype, checks all my boxes! Pulled really well for this too on my one box of PN. Lo hurts the wallet the most for sure but 2 korean copies aren’t too bad, just take forever to ship. Diviner also BADLY needs a reprint. Crossing my fingers on rarity collection 2 🤞. Dope video and very helpful, curious what non-engine you’d recommend for the Strat?
I’ve been thinking of main decking 3 trias and 3 orange lights. Now hear me out. Trias essentially acts as a book for diviner and lo. In hand, it’s almost always a guarantee for your diviner to dissolve. Orange light pushes the fair count to 12 in the MD (this is specifically to counter shifter and sometimes droll). If you played greens or any other fairies it’ll boost the power of orange too. It’s a bit janky but I think it can work. Also pendulumgraph is slightly trash too as you can’t cheat it out and you have to extend a little hard to get odd eyes out when priority should just be lo, SG.
Even then it's best when you're going 1st and have a board to establish. If you go 2nd against them, most of their hands can play through shifter alone. Pre-prep and any ritual fodder plays through it. Lo/Barrier and any ritual mon/spell or a way to get to said card plays through it. And then there are 3-4 card hands that play through it. When factored with prosperity increasing odds, that means more than half of the times a shifter by itself will not prevent a vv player from establishing their board. Shifter and another ht together though is extremely high impact and almost always a turn ender though.
Personally I'm playing it in this format on a vouceless horus engine Runs 12 non engine as well as three sauravis Hyper consistent and can give you access to cards like SP, Draglubion fir hope Harbinger or numeron and my favourite. Appo. Full combo sets up 1 omni negate 3 monster negates 1 spell negate + extra off any hand traps or imperm
@@Sparda900 i play the standard Voiceless Ratio but with 1x Ritual Sauravis and 1x Ritual Saffira and the Diviner Package 3x Superpoly 2x TTT Droll, ash and imperm and the Horus Package with 1x Sarcophagus 1x Hapi and 1x Duamutef First I played the Dogmatica Engine and Winda in Side but that didn‘t feel good tbh Also I play only two preps because I bricked way too much on three. What about you? :)
@@laidbacklenz6782 thanks for this info. I’ll consider it since I have the Horus cards. I also play the standard list, but have been looking at the Branded fusion package as of late (3 BraFu and 1 Fallen of Albaz, with the 5 slots in extra: Albion, Lubellion etc
@@Knightngale22Keep laughing. My Exosisters trounce VV. Droll in conjunction with well timed Belle or DD Crow is essentially GG. I consider these 2 my second win condition outside of Shifter against that deck. 😂🤣😂
I’m watching this to learn it when it comes to MD. I’m looking at the profile and figuring out to change it to fit the tax looks so annoying. U woukd have to cut the non engine down, but the main benefit is u use the non engine to counter snakes. At least u can use elf to recur diviner which is always a cool interaction. Cheers for the vid!
neat. I pick cards because i like them. and I like the original and new Saffira ritual monsters. Turns out its a pretty high tier deck! Lol
been waiting on this one. can’t wait for the community to finally crack the code on VV
Great video man!
Thank you so much man
I’m so stoked for this archetype, checks all my boxes!
Pulled really well for this too on my one box of PN. Lo hurts the wallet the most for sure but 2 korean copies aren’t too bad, just take forever to ship. Diviner also BADLY needs a reprint. Crossing my fingers on rarity collection 2 🤞.
Dope video and very helpful, curious what non-engine you’d recommend for the Strat?
Lo is quite cheap in ocg though or am i wrong? Like 15 euro a playset . here a playset costs 190 -_________________________-
@@vasilisvks1448 yeah that’s why I figured I’d get my 2nd copies from OCG source
I’ve been thinking of main decking 3 trias and 3 orange lights. Now hear me out.
Trias essentially acts as a book for diviner and lo. In hand, it’s almost always a guarantee for your diviner to dissolve. Orange light pushes the fair count to 12 in the MD (this is specifically to counter shifter and sometimes droll). If you played greens or any other fairies it’ll boost the power of orange too.
It’s a bit janky but I think it can work. Also pendulumgraph is slightly trash too as you can’t cheat it out and you have to extend a little hard to get odd eyes out when priority should just be lo, SG.
U could play the earth fairy shufflers aswell
Your dragon bouncing stuff is also not a hard once per turn so having 2 of these is strong.
The shifter card is the card that can stop silenforce decks best
Even then it's best when you're going 1st and have a board to establish. If you go 2nd against them, most of their hands can play through shifter alone. Pre-prep and any ritual fodder plays through it. Lo/Barrier and any ritual mon/spell or a way to get to said card plays through it. And then there are 3-4 card hands that play through it. When factored with prosperity increasing odds, that means more than half of the times a shifter by itself will not prevent a vv player from establishing their board. Shifter and another ht together though is extremely high impact and almost always a turn ender though.
i hope they get more support in forbidden infinite.
Personally I'm playing it in this format on a vouceless horus engine
Runs 12 non engine as well as three sauravis
Hyper consistent and can give you access to cards like SP, Draglubion fir hope Harbinger or numeron and my favourite. Appo.
Full combo sets up
1 omni negate
3 monster negates
1 spell negate
+ extra off any hand traps or imperm
Bro I Play the same ! I thought I‘d be the only one thinking about horus in Voiceless. Its insane!!
What does your full list look like?
@@Sparda900 i play the standard Voiceless Ratio but with 1x Ritual Sauravis and 1x Ritual Saffira and the Diviner Package
3x Superpoly
2x TTT
Droll, ash and imperm and the Horus Package with 1x Sarcophagus 1x Hapi and 1x Duamutef
First I played the Dogmatica Engine and Winda in Side but that didn‘t feel good tbh
Also I play only two preps because I bricked way too much on three.
What about you? :)
@@laidbacklenz6782 thanks for this info. I’ll consider it since I have the Horus cards. I also play the standard list, but have been looking at the Branded fusion package as of late (3 BraFu and 1 Fallen of Albaz, with the 5 slots in extra: Albion, Lubellion etc
so you dont need to play imsety? if so i wanna try it out as well@@laidbacklenz6782
I still like your voice
Do you consider them tier 2 or tier 3
droll does not end the vv turn
Can’t wait for someone to droll me just to realize it did nothing 😂
depends on the hand but yh
The same can be said for rikka since people are convinced it does
Ash Blossom the pre prep and then VV can struggle, but that’s assuming they have zero other pieces in hand
@@Knightngale22Keep laughing. My Exosisters trounce VV. Droll in conjunction with well timed Belle or DD Crow is essentially GG.
I consider these 2 my second win condition outside of Shifter against that deck. 😂🤣😂