That’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. All flash? Dude they are going against the whole legacy media and saying things that men everywhere believe but are too chicken shit to admit in public and are still fighting for men’s rights. Men out there who won’t support them are a bunch of simps who probably have to ask their women for permission to have a night out with friends. Feel sorry for you…
@@mapexplimmer2 in a way it is because there are 2 groups of people with a different fixation. Healthy and Addicted the addicted will lose all of their money and the healthy will be.. well.. Healthy with it. the problem with Tate's argument is they said they volunteer in taking peoples money where as Sean on the other hand is not volunteering in it. He's just supplying the content, if anything it's the gambling companies that are volunteering even with their "Gamble Responsibly" stickers. if it was the gambling industry that called Tate a bad man then his argument might make a bit sense. but this argument is like a battle of the shade of grey. It's fucking pointless on both sides depending where it's morphed.
I used to like both of these fighters.. now - I'm tired of it. I can't watch a fight without drama on the screen or the comments. Combat sports/ TH-cam crossover is worst crossover.
@@SudoUser-qo4ngdrama between fighters always happens for promotional purpose but this is actually real and true about them Tate scams all his fans with no remorse which is why he has a casino
Nah he’d 100% would rip thru them. The Tate brothers are good fighters don’t get me wrong. But they don’t have any major kickboxing belts under their name. Against a UFC champ like Sean they stand no chance. Especially since he won against Adyseana who had 75-5 record in kickboxing
Completely classic criminal reasoning. Textbook. And he couldn’t just not respond either. He just had to respond. And with THAT argument. And with such conviction. That’s even more telling of his degeneracy than anything else.
@@pixelfish_ Both the Tates are morally bankrupt and this video of "Tristan" pretending he didn't know who Strickland was, was beyond embarrassing. I take it your a fan ? Another easily led young little sycophantic fool who can't see further than the end off his nose.
I actually knew guys who used to be drug dealers and thieves who had a lot of remorse for the things they did. The Tate's are worse than some of those guys, and some of them commited real violence. They weren't limited to kick boxing rings.
Not addressing Sean by his name is cowardly. They know who he is. Tristan just tried to spin shit around playing mind jiu jitsu when his entire argument's frame misses the point of what Sean was saying. Sean calls the tates pieces of shit for glorifying their clear and deliberate damage to men and their psychology in extorting their pockets, while also preaching a pro-men message. Tristan is saying oh you want me to feel bad? give up all your hard earned money and then I'll think about it The difference in tristan's argument is that Sean didn't invite ANYBODY in the world to bet on him. YOU TATES saw an opportunity and rubbed your greedy, malignant fingertips together ; willing and glad to destroy the lives of anyone standing between yourself and capital gain. That's all these people are to you. Another step on the ladder. Good for you! You can continue to improve your character and atone for your sins with all the charity work you do, but bragging about your past will always leave a bitter taste in anyone who isn't an absolute sheep.
you and the guy making the video also missed Tristan's point by a long shot, he's not trying to justify himself nor does he care how the world feels about him, he's only saying than to throw stones you must be free of sin yourself, Sean is also not a good person, they both have some good and some bad stuff to share to the world, just try not to meatride any of them like you both doing lol
@@tundaja he’s wrong though and making a stupid take. Strickland isn’t actively seeking out gamblers and enticing them to give him his money. This is brain dead comparison. The complete lack of remorse on this little whiny guys end is extremely telling as well.
@@jaycee9795it’s called running a business. Same way balinciaga to Nike scam bums into buying 1$ shoes (material/labor cost) for 300$ (the price you pay in store) If you truly believe all companies aren’t lying and scamming the consumer base then CNN is most likely your bible. Good day 🤙🏽
yeah true, and ofc they say "casinos" but they're these small dingy 100-200 square meter gambling dens popular in Europe with a few slot machines, a poker table and maybe a roulette table.
@@Sauczi i mean no because at the end of the day sean is not in control of people who throw their money away gambling on his fights however when you run a camgirl service you have the control to stop someone from using that service even if it is only temporarily the only difference is that with the gambling either win or lose it doesnt affect sean however with the tates if they can get somebody hooked they profit
@@settmain3724 That makes no sense? Did you even watch the video? If you close a liquor store is an alcoholic going to stop drinking? or just go buy it nextdoor? Please use critical thinking not emotion
@@Sauczi that argument also does not make any sense because the alcoholic drinks the type and brand he wants and gets addicted, on the other hand tate just impose like the cam girls and manipulate the men, so its already fraud here imposing like the girls, its like you order or purchase a expensive liquor and its just cheap shit inside the bottle of the expensive one , they give hope for these men and take all their money, they say we can meet up and take their money as well, which is also a scam, cause they will never meet up
Tristans compares his web cam business to gambling is just ridicilous. Its like saying every athlete is responsible for gambling addicts. Which is not related tbh. Sean is right and he exposed them quite good with his statements
when people want to make fighting championship,they simply think "oh its fun and a lot of people certainly will watch it!,so its profitable",but when gambler like tatediots make casino their thought is "oh so this is the chance of winning in gambling,its so little, and this is the mentality of these gamblers which is why they keep gambling,i can profit off from these people who are full of hopes" just from these two you KNOW WELL which is the MONSTER
I mean sean talking about values and morals then beating up a scronny little streamer for nothing seems ridiculous to but hey who gives a shit right? i mean i guess sean also exposed sneako for being a scronny weak boy right? like stfu bruh for real... idk how i even got here but the comments here are fucken ridiculous i'll tell you that much
@@CJdaOne how is that their problem, and even if they do the gambler isnt gonna go "Oh well guess I wont do it anymore," its an addiction, learn more before you talk about something you know nothing about 😂
"Addicts are hopeless degenerates and cant be helped" Says guy who pretends to be helping mentally ill men, many of them probably addicted to something. Addicts can absolutely be helped. Most addicts eventually stop after an average time that varies from addiction to addiction. The average Heroin addict for example, stops THEMSELVES after 8 years on average. I stopped after 1 year of heroin. And I am super grateful for anyone that helped me one my way. Without them, I couldnt have done it.
@@rituraj6991Both guys are martial artists so strickland can probably take one guy at a time, he would die in 1v2. Khamzat would take Strickland's soul when they'd fight anyway
For the longest time Tate challenge TH-camrs to fights that were NOT fighters. Now Sean is saying something, where they at making or accepting a challenge? Silence.
@@SuperChrisDubtate don't fight anymore. He can take Jake Paul, but not Sean Strickland. He's trained, but Sean Is a giant Monster in the UFC, this Is Just impossible for a lot of people.
What’s odd is betting isn’t necessarily a scam. Betting is purely by chance in the fight game. What the tates do is promise something and then don’t give it to you. I don’t get how that’s even remotely comparable.
@@AltezzaGang15 but according to you then it will be 2v1 and the tates do know how to fight. They also have skills and they are way bigger than shaun Strickland. So whats your point? Why hate on others when you are no one. First be in the top. Then you ain't gotta give a f about others. Alright brother. Look i am not telling nothing wrong and you know that as well. Just take the good stuff, information,ideas,etc from everyone and leave the bad things, knowledge,etc away.
Also, Tate owns 15 casinos, according to his own claims, so they are even worse even by the standard they set around gambling. They ACTIVELY do the stuff that is PASSIVELY part of Sean's career's world. I dont think Sean makes any money from it unless he bets on or against himself
The problem is, Strickland's business isn't robbing "addicts" and the Tate's business is. A fighter has zero interaction with the third parties taking the bets on their fights (UFC will actually ban them for that) and the Tate's admit to interacting directly with "addicts" in order to take them for all they have. Strickland and the Tate's are not the same, not even close.
Plenty of people, they might not always be right, but sometimes, they do say many good things. Just like the dude said in the beginning. The Tates and Sean have the same fan base. Becuase a lot of the time, they say the same things.
Poor Tristan, he mixed up horse race betting with mma/ufc betting. Yes, people have lost their savings to horse racing but ufc is a sport similar to the nfl...they play to fighters similarly to the nfl plays their players.
Isnt it funny how much shit logan paul got for people in his company scamming but the tate brothers who scammed by them self get no shit. Sometimes im wondering if people online even have an own opinion or if they just follow the opinions that are trend
@@lenjan5111Tristan is actually trash compared to Strickland the skill gap is actually wild. Plus when was the last time the Tate brothers even fought in the other than casual sparing?
Comparing being directly involved with taking huge sums of money while being under the guise of a fake identity and being a professional athlete who's not directly in charge of anything gambling related is an enormous stretch, just ridiculous
A buddy of mine keeps trying to push these Tate guys on me and I dont get it. They say cliché bullshit with big words and people think that its profound.
I was part of the Tates program until I saw this vid. Long story so bear with me. I broke my neck in an accident that healed fine. The other injury was a shoulder. A nightmare of a doctor botched the "simple surgery" (his words) that cost me the ability to lift heavy things. I had to quit my remodeling career and drove a cab. The 2nd opinion doctor told me I needed a full replacement shoulder surgery by the age of 45. I was told never to lift weights again and just take walks for excersize. Depressed I played video games and blew up from 175 lbs to 300 lbs. After 16 years holding that weight my blood pressure finally spiked to the point I had to quit, and lose the weight. I decided I would go back to the gym and lift weights, and figure it out. It took 3 years to get from 300 lbs to 173 lbs, then stabalized at 185 lbs. Not having a GF or getting laid for almost 20 years I decided to get on at dating site for the first time in my life. I was immediately being hit on by one of the hottest women from the Philippines. I ended up falling victem to the same kind of scam to the T, that Andrew Tate was describing. Everything to the point where she kept asking for money every 3 days for some new drama. I finally got upset and told her I was spending far more money on her than myself. The the catfisher said, "I don't know if we should meet, becuase I can't risk my safety with your obvious temper", flipping the script. It worked and I appologozed, being already so heavily invested, feeling like I might as well go all the way, past the point of no return. I cannot prove it was Andrew or his crew I was scammed by, but It was just to eirie for me to watch that interview. It's was too identical to what I experienced. I had joined The Real World 2 months earlier and quit after watching the video. My subscription ended Feb 24 2024, and I won't go back.
Nah that’s just a “Nigerian Prince” scam except targeting men. What the Tates did was type on behalf of the models. It’s extremely common in Eastern Europe, because few of the models speak good enough English. Most of the operators are men because they know what turns men on.
Bro it's really brave of you to put this out there, a lot of people are too embarrassed but this kind of thing can happen to any normal human being. The kind of damage that something like this can do to you psychologically is immense, if you can get access to at least a couple of counselling sessions it will help you deal with the emotional scars better. Good luck bro, keep being a positive person, we need brave, emotionally honest people like you in the world.
The fact that you admitted to your flaws and dedicated yourself to finding the truth despite popular opinion already makes you a better person than what the Tates will ever be. My opinion might not mean much to you, but know that you atleast have the full respect of a random internet dude. Also I really hope your shoulder heals wonderfully my man.
lol this is how dumb you area. Man Andrew is so spot on with what is wrong with the simps and feminists in society. You comment a month ago on a 4 month old video and than comment I responded to a month old comment. That’s priceless.
Bullshit. He couldn’t be further from right. He doesn’t even take any time to consider what might be going on in those men’s lives and what grievances they are going through. He competely dehumanises them by just branding them as “helpless addicts” which is sadistic to say the least. According to that logic anyone who has an addiction like porn or smoking is irredeemable so lets keep them hooked so that we can make more money off their misery instead of helping them to break their addictions and become better men. No real “alpha male” or “pinnacle of modern masculinity” would ever help another man dig his own grave like these two wannabes.
yeah bro, im a 19 year old guy and I never got how people think they are actually right in any way, they have so many redflags, taking advantage of young people like me when they are at their lowest.... its honestly sad...
@@nazshah5263 🙏🙏🙏 Just like Strickland the Wannabe Influencer ... Watching him get ' Worshipped ' is beyond sad !!! ( glad there is a small section that see through his issues aswell ) 👍✊
@@walterkaiyuenpang3556 nobody is worth worship ONLY GOD people say good and bad take it for what it is theres always agendas whether good or bad and remember never ass lick anybody because they say something you like (respect yes) you must always show humility to be A REAL MAN Stoicism is clear on this Boasting is arrogance Humility is everything
In his analogy, him and his brother would be the huge casinos and betting companies while fighters play the role of the camgirls. It's not the camgirls scamming, it's not the figthers organizing the bets
Tristan literally caught himself out. He mentions "scammed" when referring to people betting on fights. Gambling isn't a scam, it's a game of chance. A scam is fraud. Tristan knows he's scammed people in the past. That's why he links scamming with gambling. Im amazed if anyone believes this shit.
Tristan's entire argument is erroneous and it was absolutely hilarious he said Sean "scammed" people by fighting because people bet on his fights even though Sean did what he was paid for and got none of the betting money. Tristan's argument would only be analogous if Sean paid a stunt double to go out and fight for him, LMAO.
The difference between the Tates and Sean Strickland is that Sean puts his body and health on the line to make money whereas the Tates use other people's bodies to make their money
@@AltezzaGang15 Bet David lmao, he's the biggest scammers of all, through real estate. Jordan Peterson charges copious amounts of money for a single lecture
its true what he's saying tho. every buisness, especially web cam ones there are addicts. u cant blame the knife manufacturer for the mistake of the customers. there is no moral compass in business and the tates know that and even admit to it
@@saileshnaidu8102if you really want compare it ill give you example. You want to watch fight Pereira vs Hill for belt and then Dana White right before fight is saying this fight wont happen but instead Weili Zhang vs Valentina Schevenko is taking place and he doesnt give a sh*t you paid for something else. Also Dana White after event is saying „violence is the worst sin of the world and no one should doing it”. Ofc he got whole company based on violence and making money out of it. This is Tates level hipocrysy.
@@saileshnaidu8102you’re conflating indirect cause with direct cause. This is what people like this bank on people like you who can follow logical progression but can’t see that it’s progressing to something illogical. Just use common sense; having casinos and webcam sites is immoral no matter how you try to twist it.
I cant hear your narration brother, Idk if you can fix that in the editing but it would help make you a little clearer! no shade just would improve the experience. Great video!
I don’t know if I’m missing something? I fail to see the scam. Each client got what they paid for. They got to see the model and talk to someone in place of them. These clients got exactly what they paid for. No scam. The clients were also not obligated to pay for their services. It is entirely up to them.
You're missing the fact that a self proclaimed "Top G" is really just a slimy scumbag that preys on vulnerable people and pits them against eachover for his own financial gain. And then proceeds to talk about the everyday working man like he's a turd on the sidewalk that has no value, simply because they have less resources. They're narcissists that don't care about anyone else unless that person provides value to them, that don't have the balls to answer truthfully any argument made against them without pussyfooting around it. Still missing something?
If they think they talking to the model but are talking to a dude that is a scam. No scam victim is ever obligated to pay for whatever the scam is they fell for, that would be the difference between a scam and a robbery..
Yea but not when Tate (as the model or whatever) says they will meet up and then doesn’t. And then asks for money to travel and then never shows up. That’s scamming and not getting what you paid for lol. And I’m like 99% certain tate said in his interview
Tristan’s not saying fighters are bad because people bet on them. He’s using the comparison to highlight the common denominator between both of them and that neither of them are bad. Basically if Tristan was in the wrong, Sean would be in the wrong also but in fact, neither are in the wrong
I get both sides, both are correct. People will find a way to be irresponsible with their money. It’s like saying stop selling Drugs because people abuse em. Some people just will find a way.
Except the issue when you're the one profiting off of it. Drug addicts have a problem, sure, but if you're selling it you're part of the problem whether or not you're the only one.
![[TH] VCT Pacific Stage 2 - Week 1 Day 1 // DRX vs ZETA | BLD vs TS](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AWaOqaxN6Y0/mqdefault.jpg)
Tristan pretending to not know Sean was cringe and terrible acting
Exactly 😂
And the hit to the cigar mid sentence
Like he fight for years and even himself said that the only sport that he watch was the ufc or box 🤌🤌🤌 and he doesn’t know about him
The whole video is cringe and terrible acting. In fact, this guy is all about cringe and terrible acting.
You are cringe mate can’t even put your own name on your yt
Tristan trying to act like a mob boss gave me cringe cancer
how is he actin like a mob boss? dudes just talkin
@@igottemper4199slick back cut, suit, cigar and huge high horse ego?! He’s a character right off the sopranos 😂😂
@@kevinmahaley4916 im confused on how its bothering yall those😂🤦🏾♀️
@kevinmahaley4916 the long calm drag he does before talking is what gets me lol
@@igottemper4199your username checks out
Tates: 95% flash, 5% substance. Still scamming men, just a different con.
That’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. All flash? Dude they are going against the whole legacy media and saying things that men everywhere believe but are too chicken shit to admit in public and are still fighting for men’s rights. Men out there who won’t support them are a bunch of simps who probably have to ask their women for permission to have a night out with friends. Feel sorry for you…
Most people with this opinion don’t actually watch a decent amount of Tate content
@@jackfox4216yeh brainwashed Peolpe bro
@@jackfox4216 why waste time with a con artist if u can see through him in the first 5 minutes?
@@unknwnGh0st common closed minded i know it all im a smart person through my own experiences person
The gambling argument really makes me wonder about Tristan's iq.
His trying to be Andrew
Really struggling to see the relevance of it. Not even close to the same thing.
@@mapexplimmer2 in a way it is because there are 2 groups of people with a different fixation.
Healthy and Addicted
the addicted will lose all of their money and the healthy will be.. well.. Healthy with it.
the problem with Tate's argument is they said they volunteer in taking peoples money where as Sean on the other hand is not volunteering in it. He's just supplying the content, if anything it's the gambling companies that are volunteering even with their "Gamble Responsibly" stickers.
if it was the gambling industry that called Tate a bad man then his argument might make a bit sense.
but this argument is like a battle of the shade of grey. It's fucking pointless on both sides depending where it's morphed.
A smart person who’s articulate can make anything sound convincing to about 70% of the population. Even if it’s dumb
Smarter than strickland
Sean was absolutely right and the Tate's are self righteous to the end
Sean a bitch who ruled by emotions inside there a boy crying inside
I used to like both of these fighters.. now - I'm tired of it. I can't watch a fight without drama on the screen or the comments. Combat sports/ TH-cam crossover is worst crossover.
@@SudoUser-qo4ngdrama between fighters always happens for promotional purpose but this is actually real and true about them Tate scams all his fans with no remorse which is why he has a casino
I wish they would do a tag team match both tapes versus Sean Strickland I bet he mops the floor with both of them
Shush
"Little man"
Bro Sean would quite literally rip Tristan and andrew apart
Edit" i started a war lmao
I don’t know about that but yes, Sean Strickland does have a good chance
@@ParkerSmith218 Bro Sean is a psychopath, he said that he would be so happy to kill a man, he would kill Andrew and Tristan
Glazing
@@kolanjadaits not glazing if its true
Nah he’d 100% would rip thru them. The Tate brothers are good fighters don’t get me wrong. But they don’t have any major kickboxing belts under their name. Against a UFC champ like Sean they stand no chance. Especially since he won against Adyseana who had 75-5 record in kickboxing
The Tate brothers were Okay Kickboxers, Sean Strickland is World Class MMA fighter, Sean dog walks both brothers in the same night
He's not world class at all
Tstes are bad boxers
@@narutofan4545 Andrew has a 76-9 record in kickboxing my guy… you’re stupid
Andrew is 76-9 in kickboxing and 4-2 in MMA wtf are you talking about spud
@@narutofan4545 they are good boxers, its just that levels exist and they are no were near pro boxing
@@narutofan4545sean is a worldclass mma fighter, hes one in the ufc, and two a former champion ☠️
Tristan analogy was so stupid, this guy has no moral at all
It was the dumbest analogy ever
Completely classic criminal reasoning. Textbook. And he couldn’t just not respond either. He just had to respond. And with THAT argument. And with such conviction. That’s even more telling of his degeneracy than anything else.
something most people who are not (truly) religious tend to suffer from.
Tristan really said “I don’t know his name he’s some boxer or mma guy” then perfectly described everything Strickland said about them😂
maybe thats because he saw the video
@@pixelfish_Well then he'll know who Strickland is !
@@mooncat.787 no, its a short that everyone knows
@@pixelfish_ Both the Tates are morally bankrupt and this video of "Tristan" pretending he didn't know who Strickland was, was beyond embarrassing.
I take it your a fan ? Another easily led young little sycophantic fool who can't see further than the end off his nose.
@@pixelfish_ Brilliant ! Your a Tate fan then ?
Puffing that cigar "dramatically" didn't look as cool as Tristan thinks it did.
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He’s the addict. Classic projection. His fall will follow this display of pride.
@@markflynn2669true
@@markflynn2669wutchu mean his fall lil bro
He has a oral obsession.
Tristan is just yapping absolute bullshit.
1:57 Why is bro acting like a super villain from an animated batman show💀
it's called having high testosterone. what? do you act like cat woman in your free time?
Because the super villains are modeled after people like him💀
beacuse he THINKS it makes him look hard.
@@falkeborg9432can’t believe y’all idolized these clowns😂😂
@@GabrielRodriguez-lc8ob How is taht idolizing? lol
"I should sell crack because well.....if I don't, someone else will". - something drug dealers say ALL THE TIME 😂
Basically his argument, wonder how well that will work in the court of law 🤣
And they do. Watched them literally sell rock to a pregnant woman because "If I dont take the money, homeboy down the block will".
I actually knew guys who used to be drug dealers and thieves who had a lot of remorse for the things they did. The Tate's are worse than some of those guys, and some of them commited real violence. They weren't limited to kick boxing rings.
Not addressing Sean by his name is cowardly. They know who he is.
Tristan just tried to spin shit around playing mind jiu jitsu when his entire argument's frame misses the point of what Sean was saying.
Sean calls the tates pieces of shit for glorifying their clear and deliberate damage to men and their psychology in extorting their pockets, while also preaching a pro-men message.
Tristan is saying oh you want me to feel bad? give up all your hard earned money and then I'll think about it
The difference in tristan's argument is that Sean didn't invite ANYBODY in the world to bet on him. YOU TATES saw an opportunity and rubbed your greedy, malignant fingertips together ; willing and glad to destroy the lives of anyone standing between yourself and capital gain. That's all these people are to you. Another step on the ladder. Good for you!
You can continue to improve your character and atone for your sins with all the charity work you do, but bragging about your past will always leave a bitter taste in anyone who isn't an absolute sheep.
SPOT ON
You sound like a religious nutcase regardless
you and the guy making the video also missed Tristan's point by a long shot, he's not trying to justify himself nor does he care how the world feels about him, he's only saying than to throw stones you must be free of sin yourself, Sean is also not a good person, they both have some good and some bad stuff to share to the world, just try not to meatride any of them like you both doing lol
😢😢😂😂 bro just shut your mouth and go away 😅@@tundaja
@@tundaja he’s wrong though and making a stupid take. Strickland isn’t actively seeking out gamblers and enticing them to give him his money. This is brain dead comparison. The complete lack of remorse on this little whiny guys end is extremely telling as well.
Fighting isnt illegal. Lying & scamming people is illegal. 🙄
Webcam isn't illegal either.
Its not lying and scamming its a legal business model nerd
@@sane7107 They scammed and lied to the vulnerable men that keep their lights on. Preaching nonsense to young vulnerable men. What you call that?
@@jaycee9795it’s called running a business. Same way balinciaga to Nike scam bums into buying 1$ shoes (material/labor cost) for 300$ (the price you pay in store)
If you truly believe all companies aren’t lying and scamming the consumer base then CNN is most likely your bible. Good day 🤙🏽
@@sane7107 Tate rider detected
Tristan is the one that is a hypocrite. He is saying Sean is bad bcuz ppl gamble on his fights even tho he runs casinos
yeah true, and ofc they say "casinos" but they're these small dingy 100-200 square meter gambling dens popular in Europe with a few slot machines, a poker table and maybe a roulette table.
So by Tristan's logic, he doesn't see it as a bad thing to capitalize on an addicts fix? Um, that's literally what drug dealers do my guy.
Well they were drugs dealers in the past.
@@therealnutz7334how is that a defense
Well depends on what they are addicted to don’t ya think?
@@Poughboy285 Please elaborate
Simps are not addicts. They willingly give up money to see a little cleavage on a screen. Who's to blame here
Tristan’s excuse was bullshit.
How? he is 100% correct youre just sad
@@Sauczi i mean no because at the end of the day sean is not in control of people who throw their money away gambling on his fights however when you run a camgirl service you have the control to stop someone from using that service even if it is only temporarily the only difference is that with the gambling either win or lose it doesnt affect sean however with the tates if they can get somebody hooked they profit
@@settmain3724 That makes no sense? Did you even watch the video? If you close a liquor store is an alcoholic going to stop drinking? or just go buy it nextdoor? Please use critical thinking not emotion
I'm with the tate,s on this one lol
@@Sauczi that argument also does not make any sense because the alcoholic drinks the type and brand he wants and gets addicted, on the other hand tate just impose like the cam girls and manipulate the men, so its already fraud here imposing like the girls, its like you order or purchase a expensive liquor and its just cheap shit inside the bottle of the expensive one , they give hope for these men and take all their money, they say we can meet up and take their money as well, which is also a scam, cause they will never meet up
The difference is Sean knows that he himself is a bad person. Tristan is trying to defend himself from being seen as a bad person
Sean’s not a bad person man is just violent 😂
Calling him little man lmao. Sean would zip up him and Andrew back to back under any rule set.
Tristans compares his web cam business to gambling is just ridicilous. Its like saying every athlete is responsible for gambling addicts. Which is not related tbh. Sean is right and he exposed them quite good with his statements
when people want to make fighting championship,they simply think "oh its fun and a lot of people certainly will watch it!,so its profitable",but when gambler like tatediots make casino their thought is "oh so this is the chance of winning in gambling,its so little, and this is the mentality of these gamblers which is why they keep gambling,i can profit off from these people who are full of hopes"
just from these two you KNOW WELL which is the MONSTER
its like saying knife manufacturers are murderers and thieves because murderers and thieves use knives to commit crimes
I mean sean talking about values and morals then beating up a scronny little streamer for nothing seems ridiculous to but hey who gives a shit right? i mean i guess sean also exposed sneako for being a scronny weak boy right? like stfu bruh for real... idk how i even got here but the comments here are fucken ridiculous i'll tell you that much
If athletes aren’t responsible for betting why don’t they all publicly come out and condemn betting?
@@CJdaOne how is that their problem, and even if they do the gambler isnt gonna go "Oh well guess I wont do it anymore," its an addiction, learn more before you talk about something you know nothing about 😂
Gotta love how narcissists have to deflect by saying a statement that holds truth, as if that somehow magically undoes all their wrongdoings.
Well put. He didnt even dismiss or regret what they used to and still do
Absolutely !!!
Yeah like if Hitler had got caught and at the Hague he was like well that may be so but did you see how many million Mao killed.
They do no wrong, only a slave of the matrix would think taking money from sex perverts to attain financial independence from the system is "wrong"
I doubt that you're an expert in behavioral psychology. What's up with this generation thinking everyone they don't like is a narcissist?
I’m officially an old man. I just don’t understand the appeal of either Tate
"Addicts are hopeless degenerates and cant be helped" Says guy who pretends to be helping mentally ill men, many of them probably addicted to something.
Addicts can absolutely be helped. Most addicts eventually stop after an average time that varies from addiction to addiction. The average Heroin addict for example, stops THEMSELVES after 8 years on average. I stopped after 1 year of heroin. And I am super grateful for anyone that helped me one my way. Without them, I couldnt have done it.
Tristan calling him a little man lol, Tristan tapped out to ground strikes in an mma match, Sean would kill him easily in a real fight
in a street fight it would most likely be a 2v1 so the tates will win
Sean will murder the Gaytes, little man lol Sean is 6'1
In the street Strickland would have a glock.
@@cobraeditz9454 sean will eat them both
@@rituraj6991Both guys are martial artists so strickland can probably take one guy at a time, he would die in 1v2. Khamzat would take Strickland's soul when they'd fight anyway
For the longest time Tate challenge TH-camrs to fights that were NOT fighters. Now Sean is saying something, where they at making or accepting a challenge?
Silence.
And silence from the Tate fanboys to your comment. Even if they had, it would have been some pathetic cope! Good one, mate!
Tate has only challenged Jake.
@@Top_E_Official And ksi
@@SuperChrisDubyeah he got em! 🤓 score for good guys!!! ☝️
@@SuperChrisDubtate don't fight anymore. He can take Jake Paul, but not Sean Strickland. He's trained, but Sean Is a giant Monster in the UFC, this Is Just impossible for a lot of people.
What’s odd is betting isn’t necessarily a scam. Betting is purely by chance in the fight game. What the tates do is promise something and then don’t give it to you. I don’t get how that’s even remotely comparable.
Never realized how squeaky Tristan’s voice is
I'd love to see Shaun get 5 minutes with the Tates 😂
He would kill them he beat up world class fighters who are all champions in the old fighting organisation they were in.
@@themostvaluableplayer1 do some research first lil guy
@@nayanrai6488look what Sean did to Israel Adesanya, a guy levels above the Tate sisters. They don’t stand a chance against Strickland
@@AltezzaGang15 but according to you then it will be 2v1 and the tates do know how to fight. They also have skills and they are way bigger than shaun Strickland. So whats your point? Why hate on others when you are no one. First be in the top. Then you ain't gotta give a f about others. Alright brother. Look i am not telling nothing wrong and you know that as well. Just take the good stuff, information,ideas,etc from everyone and leave the bad things, knowledge,etc away.
@@Goldenhub12 the tates were never in the top, they never had success in the top kickboxing promotions.
Oh i just love the irony of Tristan calling Sean ''some fighter''
Also, Tate owns 15 casinos, according to his own claims, so they are even worse even by the standard they set around gambling. They ACTIVELY do the stuff that is PASSIVELY part of Sean's career's world. I dont think Sean makes any money from it unless he bets on or against himself
Strickland is 100, Tristan is reacting like an offended little girl
If insecurities was a person it would be Andrew
andrew aint even in this video bro 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@Lynix_UKExactly 😭😭😭
@@Lynix_UKshows how much of a retard he is lmao
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This comment is gold lmao
They don't care about being cancelled but have a meltdown when someone with fame criticize them
A real man must always be open to criticism this is how we grow
like wtf is your point even?
like wtf is your point even?
downvoted your shit
how is this a melt down?
Tristan used the same coping technique that literal fent, tranq, etc drug dealers use 🤦♂️
Comparing a fight with pretending to be a cam girl to purposefully scam men out of money is laughable… these guys have what’s coming to them.
i bet tristan wouldent yap his mouth so loud if sean strickland was there in the room
Tate was tapping to punches some random MMA fighter. Sean would maul him like little kid
@@user-eu3gs2tk1z Sean cant even knockout Sneako.
@@Jay-son. Sneako is tuff indeed but Sean didnt go full power on him are you crazy? Kid would end in hospital.
@u3gs2tk1z nah sneako would have died
@@Jay-son.but he can walk through Adesanya
Seeing how defensive and upset Tristan Tate was proves that Sean Strickland is correct in his allegations
no its because sean is talking bs
@@Underrated_Channels Don’t worry buddy Tristan is still your Daddy
@@paulperdew8826 your a clown
@@paulperdew8826 still better then sean strickland
It seems you have a crush on Tristan Tate
Sean Strickland would destroy both Tate's in a Fight lmao.
Interesting listening to a pornographer justify their actions by talking smack about a fighter. It’s much simpler than he makes it out to be.
Tristan's rebuttal is a perfect example of when Sean also said that if andrew was in the same room as him he would be too scared to even look at him
The fact he’s trying to justify taking advantage of people, just makes it worse for him
he lost at " refuse to put the mirror on your self " to the most open and self aware fighter in the world
It's funny how Sean and the Tate brothers would probably agree in like 90% of the takes but they''re enemies online
Tristan is just displaying a narcassistic injury.
Tristan is usually pretty smart, but his argument was dumb AF
No
No. No he’s not
Name one smart thing he said that isn’t lazy populist strawmen
I'm sorry, but if you think either of the Tates are smart, you must be a massive idiot.
he's not smart at all neither is andrew they just know what to say to keep up that illusion to their braindead fans
Tristans argument was soo flawed lol ive truly lost respect for both of them
The problem is, Strickland's business isn't robbing "addicts" and the Tate's business is. A fighter has zero interaction with the third parties taking the bets on their fights (UFC will actually ban them for that) and the Tate's admit to interacting directly with "addicts" in order to take them for all they have. Strickland and the Tate's are not the same, not even close.
Seriously, who listens to anything the Tates have to say?
Plenty of people, they might not always be right, but sometimes, they do say many good things. Just like the dude said in the beginning. The Tates and Sean have the same fan base.
Becuase a lot of the time, they say the same things.
Scarily, alot of people.
mixed race zoomers
@@liamkisbee8117 are you transgender?
@cobraeditz9454 no I have a cock and balls
Poor Tristan, he mixed up horse race betting with mma/ufc betting. Yes, people have lost their savings to horse racing but ufc is a sport similar to the nfl...they play to fighters similarly to the nfl plays their players.
All horses should feel bad for ruining the lives of addicts who bet on them.
It’s like blaming Olympic athletes for gambling because Tristan is a con artist.
@Leontemplar-yt6ff If sean is so righteous and caring then he should cease in facilitating the abuse of mentally ill men by fighting
Isnt it funny how much shit logan paul got for people in his company scamming but the tate brothers who scammed by them self get no shit. Sometimes im wondering if people online even have an own opinion or if they just follow the opinions that are trend
tristans yapping gave me brain damage😭😭
“Little man” Sean would pick up tates bugatti and beat him with it
Another loser with no name on his yt
🤣🤣🤣🤣 tristen bodies him
Nope
Your glazing the Tates hard my guy 😅@@lenjan5111
@@lenjan5111Tristan is actually trash compared to Strickland the skill gap is actually wild. Plus when was the last time the Tate brothers even fought in the other than casual sparing?
Comparing being directly involved with taking huge sums of money while being under the guise of a fake identity and being a professional athlete who's not directly in charge of anything gambling related is an enormous stretch, just ridiculous
Crazy shit
Who is still watching the tates
The Tate’s are morally bankrupt. Not good role models at all.
Wtf kid
@@lenjan5111 tate meatrider
Andrew is much smarter than his brother, that's why he did all the talking before they got famous.
Andrew was defo the brains behind the operation lol
Tristan has a crybaby reply
Andraw was smarter? You mean snitching on himself?
@@BallCant I said he is smarter than his brother. Both of them are degenerates who got accidental fame but Andrew is the reason people idolize them.
@@BallCant
Even Tristan Himself has said that Andrew was a smarter fighter
tristan’s just saying it how it is. he’s right
A buddy of mine keeps trying to push these Tate guys on me and I dont get it. They say cliché bullshit with big words and people think that its profound.
I was part of the Tates program until I saw this vid. Long story so bear with me.
I broke my neck in an accident that healed fine. The other injury was a shoulder. A nightmare of a doctor botched the "simple surgery" (his words) that cost me the ability to lift heavy things. I had to quit my remodeling career and drove a cab. The 2nd opinion doctor told me I needed a full replacement shoulder surgery by the age of 45. I was told never to lift weights again and just take walks for excersize. Depressed I played video games and blew up from 175 lbs to 300 lbs. After 16 years holding that weight my blood pressure finally spiked to the point I had to quit, and lose the weight. I decided I would go back to the gym and lift weights, and figure it out. It took 3 years to get from 300 lbs to 173 lbs, then stabalized at 185 lbs.
Not having a GF or getting laid for almost 20 years I decided to get on at dating site for the first time in my life. I was immediately being hit on by one of the hottest women from the Philippines. I ended up falling victem to the same kind of scam to the T, that Andrew Tate was describing. Everything to the point where she kept asking for money every 3 days for some new drama. I finally got upset and told her I was spending far more money on her than myself. The the catfisher said, "I don't know if we should meet, becuase I can't risk my safety with your obvious temper", flipping the script. It worked and I appologozed, being already so heavily invested, feeling like I might as well go all the way, past the point of no return. I cannot prove it was Andrew or his crew I was scammed by, but It was just to eirie for me to watch that interview. It's was too identical to what I experienced. I had joined The Real World 2 months earlier and quit after watching the video. My subscription ended Feb 24 2024, and I won't go back.
Nah that’s just a “Nigerian Prince” scam except targeting men.
What the Tates did was type on behalf of the models. It’s extremely common in Eastern Europe, because few of the models speak good enough English. Most of the operators are men because they know what turns men on.
Bro it's really brave of you to put this out there, a lot of people are too embarrassed but this kind of thing can happen to any normal human being.
The kind of damage that something like this can do to you psychologically is immense, if you can get access to at least a couple of counselling sessions it will help you deal with the emotional scars better.
Good luck bro, keep being a positive person, we need brave, emotionally honest people like you in the world.
The fact that you admitted to your flaws and dedicated yourself to finding the truth despite popular opinion already makes you a better person than what the Tates will ever be. My opinion might not mean much to you, but know that you atleast have the full respect of a random internet dude. Also I really hope your shoulder heals wonderfully my man.
Lol they're reality TV nerds. Sean is reality.
is that why sean only has a fraction of the money?
Wtf kif
Reality? wtf Andrew was a world champion kickboxer. And what have you done in your life just curious?
@@TratUsYT You're a roblox kid asking what someone is "doing with their life" on a month old comment LOL.
lol this is how dumb you area. Man Andrew is so spot on with what is wrong with the simps and feminists in society. You comment a month ago on a 4 month old video and than comment I responded to a month old comment. That’s priceless.
Tristan referring to Sean as little man like he wouldn't take a solid nap if they ever touched gloves is amusing.
I love how Tristan lied about not knowing Sean's name
False equivalence on Tristan’s part
Tristan was completely right and had a great example lmao. Everyone trying to find a way to hate someone infinitely better than them
Bullshit.
He couldn’t be further from right. He doesn’t even take any time to consider what might be going on in those men’s lives and what grievances they are going through. He competely dehumanises them by just branding them as “helpless addicts” which is sadistic to say the least.
According to that logic anyone who has an addiction like porn or smoking is irredeemable so lets keep them hooked so that we can make more money off their misery instead of helping them to break their addictions and become better men. No real “alpha male” or “pinnacle of modern masculinity” would ever help another man dig his own grave like these two wannabes.
There's a difference between actively scamming people and people betting on you to win or lose at something.
Scamming them and then calling them degenerates . This guy farts from his mouth xD
Ewwwww, look at you.
How Nasty
It’s not scamming they got what they paid for👏 A dream
@@mattyp8313 Still they were scammed.
Sean Strickland makes money from PPVs aswell. I doubt they make money from gambling
The tates are keyboard warriors atp🤣
TATE Strickland Neither Are Someone To Look Up To Tate Like Taking Money From The Weak and Strickland Likes Hurting people...
Can't listen to the Tates !!!
Literally ROTS my 🧠 !!!
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yeah bro, im a 19 year old guy and I never got how people think they are actually right in any way, they have so many redflags, taking advantage of young people like me when they are at their lowest.... its honestly sad...
Well done to both of you especially you the 19 year old
Being objective is key in any affair
@@nazshah5263 🙏🙏🙏
Just like Strickland the Wannabe Influencer ...
Watching him get ' Worshipped ' is beyond sad !!! ( glad there is a small section that see through his issues aswell )
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@@raduadochitei2728 👍✊
@@walterkaiyuenpang3556 nobody is worth worship ONLY GOD people say good and bad take it for what it is theres always agendas whether good or bad and remember never ass lick anybody because they say something you like
(respect yes) you must always show humility to be A REAL MAN
Stoicism is clear on this
Boasting is arrogance
Humility is everything
Tristan : we should be on the same team because we are the same
“ if I don’t sell this man cocaine someone else will”
In his analogy, him and his brother would be the huge casinos and betting companies while fighters play the role of the camgirls. It's not the camgirls scamming, it's not the figthers organizing the bets
Haha your right, his argument was that people can gamble on the fights but the tates own casinos 😂😂 Tristan fumbled the bag on this one
Tristan literally caught himself out. He mentions "scammed" when referring to people betting on fights. Gambling isn't a scam, it's a game of chance. A scam is fraud. Tristan knows he's scammed people in the past. That's why he links scamming with gambling. Im amazed if anyone believes this shit.
Tristan's entire argument is erroneous and it was absolutely hilarious he said Sean "scammed" people by fighting because people bet on his fights even though Sean did what he was paid for and got none of the betting money. Tristan's argument would only be analogous if Sean paid a stunt double to go out and fight for him, LMAO.
His little ego and and his brothers double chin got hurt
What even type of comeback was this doesn't make sense at all
Why does he try to talk like his brother lol. He sounds exactly like him.
All I saw was him effectively defending his brother. No meltdown. Tristan Tate has nothing to be ashamed about.
The difference between the Tates and Sean Strickland is that Sean puts his body and health on the line to make money whereas the Tates use other people's bodies to make their money
I just lost what little respect I had left for the Tates.
Me too bro.
If you’re gonna have any positive male role models, there’s guys like Jordan Peterson, Dave Ramsey, Patrick Bet David, Joe Rogan.
I had none. I'm just looking at what I always saw. I'm glad their masks are slipping off for young men to see.
@@AltezzaGang15 Bet David lmao, he's the biggest scammers of all, through real estate. Jordan Peterson charges copious amounts of money for a single lecture
Watch common sense skeptic's journalistic work about them. The evil goes deep. Basically they lie when they open their mouths.
@@AltezzaGang15f jordan peterson, have you not seen his true evil colors with that tweet
But in the Tate’s story fighters are the cam girls and they are still are the people setting it all up.
Occultards Tristan has a fair point. 👁️
Tates logic is total bollox!!!
Tristan moving mad comparing streaming sites to boxing and mma events, stsrting to see the narcissistic traits these brothers have
its true what he's saying tho. every buisness, especially web cam ones there are addicts. u cant blame the knife manufacturer for the mistake of the customers. there is no moral compass in business and the tates know that and even admit to it
@saileshnaidu8102 no it's not true what he's saying, hea trying to deflect, people who watch mma aren't forced to gamble like Tristan is saying,
@@saileshnaidu8102if you really want compare it ill give you example. You want to watch fight Pereira vs Hill for belt and then Dana White right before fight is saying this fight wont happen but instead Weili Zhang vs Valentina Schevenko is taking place and he doesnt give a sh*t you paid for something else. Also Dana White after event is saying „violence is the worst sin of the world and no one should doing it”. Ofc he got whole company based on violence and making money out of it. This is Tates level hipocrysy.
@@saileshnaidu8102you’re conflating indirect cause with direct cause. This is what people like this bank on people like you who can follow logical progression but can’t see that it’s progressing to something illogical. Just use common sense; having casinos and webcam sites is immoral no matter how you try to twist it.
@@saileshnaidu8102 purposely exploiting vulnerabilites within people is scummy behaviour no matter how much you try to sugar coat it
These dudes belong in jail.
The difference between tate and sean is sean is a good man.
I cant hear your narration brother, Idk if you can fix that in the editing but it would help make you a little clearer! no shade just would improve the experience. Great video!
you can litteraly say that for every sport, there is betting in every sport, tristan really flunked this reply
Why dose tate look like a fallout ghoul sometimes i might be tripping but I see fallout ghoul in his face
I feel pretty confident to call Sean “little man” ,from the comfort of my home as well
Lol... not only a morally bankrupt narcissist but a massive dum dum.
wtf is he talking about
I don’t know if I’m missing something?
I fail to see the scam. Each client got what they paid for. They got to see the model and talk to someone in place of them.
These clients got exactly what they paid for. No scam. The clients were also not obligated to pay for their services. It is entirely up to them.
You're missing the fact that a self proclaimed "Top G" is really just a slimy scumbag that preys on vulnerable people and pits them against eachover for his own financial gain. And then proceeds to talk about the everyday working man like he's a turd on the sidewalk that has no value, simply because they have less resources.
They're narcissists that don't care about anyone else unless that person provides value to them, that don't have the balls to answer truthfully any argument made against them without pussyfooting around it.
Still missing something?
They scammed them with promises to meet the girls in person. Promises that were never going to happen.
Exactly bro
If they think they talking to the model but are talking to a dude that is a scam. No scam victim is ever obligated to pay for whatever the scam is they fell for, that would be the difference between a scam and a robbery..
Yea but not when Tate (as the model or whatever) says they will meet up and then doesn’t. And then asks for money to travel and then never shows up. That’s scamming and not getting what you paid for lol. And I’m like 99% certain tate said in his interview
I feel like, no one is right on this one.
Tristan’s not saying fighters are bad because people bet on them. He’s using the comparison to highlight the common denominator between both of them and that neither of them are bad. Basically if Tristan was in the wrong, Sean would be in the wrong also but in fact, neither are in the wrong
I get both sides, both are correct.
People will find a way to be irresponsible with their money.
It’s like saying stop selling Drugs because people abuse em. Some people just will find a way.
Except the issue when you're the one profiting off of it. Drug addicts have a problem, sure, but if you're selling it you're part of the problem whether or not you're the only one.
If they pay to talk and see a webcam girl and they are actually talking to a dude and he never shows up, how is that not a scam exactly?
Lol yeah that was a bad take.