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@@Dkkm10 Citing the author's literal, verbalized intent of the film/TV show isn't an appeal to authority. I think you want to go back to the drawing board with that one.
I dont agree, i think the idea of a single moment of destruction is much easier to attack rather than the years of hurt of climate change Remember that most people agree with, and want action of climate change, systems needed to be put into place to prevent this action
@PropheticShadeZ dude it doesn't matter what the disaster is people will constantly be divided on how to deal with it until it's on their doorstep. I've been back and forth to Ukraine 4 times now the last 2 times as a Militiaman Ukraine was invaded it's a clear cut case of self defense and people are pushing this absurd notion that Ukraine is in the wrong. The whole world should be united right now against Russian aggression but instead of helping Ukraine they sit around making memes. Whether it's World War III, climate change, or threats from space, people will make a joke out of it.
No it's because it's complacent Hollywood elites thinking that they're so important that's utterly and laughably grotesque. They really thought that they were making a statement that had anything at all to bring to the table. It's really a so bad it's good movie
When Larry Fink of Blackrock, is treated like a head of state at the 2024 G7 Summit, I'm reminded of Mussolini's description of fascism as the "merger of state and corporate power"
The fascists of the progressive era wouldve put Larry fink in a hole with all the other greedy capitalists, whatever we live under now worships them like gods.
I'm a 77yr old man in Toronto. I want to thank you so very much for the work you've done here. In my lifetime I have seen humanity under capitalism moving farther and farther away from what we value most. Frankly, I've been stunned at the ugliness that passes as progress. Your critique of this movie lays all that out for us to see. It's beyond shocking. I am on the verge of tears as I write this.
Most of the things you blame capitalism for are happening because of democracy. Capitalism is just private property and free exchange of goods and services.
I just turned 69 so being of the same age cohort I have seen and experienced the same as you. What gives me a bit of comfort is viewing the debasement of our culture as part of natural cycles of History. Suggestion? Read The Fourth Turning by Neil Howe; check out Dan Aiello and his 250 cycle hypothesis then chek out Oswald Spengler. I have found all three of these ideas very useful in helping me understand what is going on.
I’m not even 30 yet. I regularly think to myself “Really? This is our best? If each ‘novel crisis’, especially those I’ve seen come to pass, weren’t so inherently predictable, it could be tragic. But it’s not, and this is just depressing.”
My heart warms so much for having these warriors of time watching this content and sharing their views, I am 34 and I would be honnored if I become half the person my mom is, you are beautiful and our unsung heroes. Thank you so much
No, they are just simply rendered useless because, while annoying the capitalists and the like, don’t actually do anything to change the circumstances of late capitalism.
"Capitalism makes us uniform in the pursuit of unfettered individuality. We are uniform in the sense that we all actively try to stand out. Because we are so embedded in the pursuit of the aesthetic of individuality; the smokescreen of it, we struggle to think, to act, to exist, when dealt with actual novelty; novelty in art, society and culture, science, and novelty in potential world ending disaster" how poignant and profound. words have never left such an impact on me
Except, it's not remotely true. I drive through suburban neighborhoods everyday with my job and, all I see is conformity everywhere I look. Cars all look the same, people all dress and look the same, people all talk about the same mundane nonsense, food is all the same. Anyone that dresses or behaves even slightly different, sticks out dramatically and is usually laughed and pointed at immediately and it's extremely rare for that even to happen.
I searched up hauntology and it was there but like 5-7 vids down. I’m a little late but this vid is a fantastic critique. I’m not familiar with the creator but I am glad he took his time explaining late stage to people who aren’t familiar with these concepts before going into the actual critique.
Strangely, no one on the West (as far as I've heard) haven't talked about the religious level of sublime in the film. The last scene is precisely Chekhovian as the family meets their end chatting about mundane things with stoic dignity - Cherry Orchard style. The point is not mine, but this ending is very... calming in a bad way? Maybe it's just me, but the desire (and an instruction how to actually desire it, cinema perv) to meet the death with dignity is the very thing that pacifying. Contrary to that, like, no, apocalypse will come, but - bad news - we all will not die in that beautiful (i cried personally) scene with siberian shaman, fire falling from sky, very christian, very catarticly exaltating. No, we will survive to live in a dirty and humiliating world. And it's not that foreign, totally alian world of Mad Max and non-humanity. It will be ours world and the shame and filth will be ours to get by.
on the contrary, we will die in the filth and chaos. the seemingly slow-motion apocalypse is so until the fire falls from the sky and at that point, there will be a bang to signal the end of the anthropocene.
I love that family scene at the end. My thought is that one wants to meet death with acceptance. I almost died once - swept out in a rip tide into the second break in a large area of surf in the ocean. I only lived because I had an experience of a connection to something greater that spoke to me and allowed me to choose to live because I came to a place of acceptance and peacefulness and I calmed down and found my way back to shore. I just think that I come into an apocalyptic event like abrupt climate change where the earth suddenly heats up due to something like the release of a massive amount of Arctic stores of methane that I choose to accept it. Maybe it was the mundane quality of the conversation as opposed to the scene with the shaman that you didn’t like. The shaman seemed to be welcoming the coming of the comet as if it was the force of Shiva destroying the world in the cosmic cycle of death and eventual rebirth. Yet that prayer at the end of family dinner - I was moved.
I mean 80% of the population wants national healthcare, 75% want legal abortion, 70% are ok with gay marriage. And on and on. Right left and center want serious change in the USAand yet here we are. But lucky for us corporations are well taken care of😊
@Gacek130 it's 7.1% of the us population, imagine if 2/3 black of 1/2 hispanic people were denied the right to marry, there have been and are political consiferation given to far smaller groups
@@samotter9509 People are starving and you clowns are worried about who marries when lmao. That's why no sane person takes the left seriously, your priorities are all backwards.
There will come a point when we'll be forced to choose between continuing capitalism and our survival on Earth, and unfortunately we shall choose the former.
We're already doing it. People don't give an af. We are choosing our destruction. We want to die and the Earth and the Universe will make sure it comes to pass.
@@pigimiceli isn't techno feudalism a return to mercantilism? we are certainly headed back to economic nationalism, ie, mercantilism with a a fall guy and without the colonies.
@@jackiepie7423 No. Technofeudalism is the end of upwards mobility, the consolidation of owner class rich, working class poor, and a survellaince state created with technology and brainwashing, Basically we cut off the heads of kings to end up with corporations with more power than countries and zero accounatability in front of the law. The WEF is already pressuring to be part of UN and have voting rights equal to the other coutnries. Unelected offcials already have has much power inside any major governent as elected ones.
Capitalist realsim: its easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism. Also, socialism works in practice until western capitalist interventionism undermines its progress. Why all the preemptive apprehension? 🤔
Socialism fails because it requires hundreds of people to be able to achieve similar intelligence of millions. Only a narcissist could begin to dream that way. Capitalism works because millions of people can do things smarter than hundreds. This is why government meddling in business rarely ends well and is how you push capitalism to a point it fails.
wait, are you telling me that an entire planet being hostile to a nation typically causes the end of that nation? The fact that socialism works fine until the *entire planet* conspires against it, while capitalism is falling apart in front of us, tells us a lot about the strength of these ideologies.
"With its never-ending emphasis on exploitation and expansion, and its indifference to environmental costs, capitalism appears determined to stand outside nature. The essence of capitalism, its raison d'être, is to convert nature into commodities and commodities into capital, transforming the living earth into inanimate wealth." (PARENTI, Blackshirts and Reds).
I have been studying, researching, and writing about these subjects for quite a few years now. The fact that I find your TH-cam channel all these years later is quite the statement on the relevance of the information you're sharing. I know people who have watched the film, and were entertained by it. It is an amazing work of satire. I watched it in a perpetual state of something between disgust, despair, and horror. I suppose there are a lot of us here who are trapped in that 'limbo', and are acutely aware of it. I've watched two of your videos, and they are phenomenal. I am sorry that I didn't know about them sooner.
If you prioritize comfort, the love of the truth dies. When Nietzsche compared master and slave morality, and the world view each shared, consider now a world where most people believe they are now masters. Good, evil, truth, irrelevant. Only victory.
They are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing in they are not in favor of yours. If someone has different benefits than you is stupid? I wouldn't think so
Or even worse, stupid people who think they're smart, who claim to be able to fix everything, who are indifferent or even relish in the suffering they cause (directly and indirectly)...
I think peoples defensive ties to Capitalism is that they still have this 1920’s to 1940’s romanticized ideal of the innovative and worker-centric and region-centric Henry Ford take of Capitalism, the reality is more of an International Capitalism that chases cheap labor, people as “Human Resources”, instead of just readily available resources and cheap goods and has increasingly promoted anti-human/anti-life movements. I’m not pro-Communist either, both focused heavily on the locust of an ideal of “Economic man” and have left landscapes they’ve touched mostly soulless and empty. It’s corporatized everything, including people. It sells crisis after crisis and then delivers worse solutions for profit. Where communism starved peoples stomachs, capitalism starves peoples souls and sense of meaning.
"Biden's personal empathy to promote change?" Did you mean _apathy?_ He's done some good stuff by now, but totally screwed it all the hell up in his hubris. And remember when he ran (he was in 6th place before the DNC basically made everyone else get behind Biden to stop Sanders, who was in 1st)... he said "nothing will fundamentally change." Liberals are status quo (horrible). Conservatives WERE status quo, but have become increasingly _regressive_ (even worse). We're screwed. We had the 10-year warning like 5 years ago, and you know we're going to blow past the point of no return. It will get bloody, and honestly should have long before today.
I'd like to say that conservatives are revolutionary, because the ideas they wish to preserve are, if only they'd fight for them. Considering how maoist everything is getting, I sure hope we do. If not for America, to protect the communists from their stupidity.
I mean he was a breath of fresh air only because the other guy was off his rocker. You are right he was the neoliberal candidate of choice for long term capital interests and sustainability of capital interests
6.1k likes? That's far from enough for what you've created here. Your video is nothing short of extraordinary, especially with the time and effort you've put into a deeply thoughtful and well-articulated philosophical study. You truly deserve much more recognition for this exceptional work.
I still remember the first time I watched Don’t Look Up at a family vacation and my uncle and I were talking. I mentioned how it was a rather unsubtle metaphor for climate change (not that it was a bad one, just not at all subtle and I don’t think it was trying to be) and he just gave me the blankest look. Even after I explained the similarities to him he was unable to link the two together. Now, he’s a very smart guy, but I gathered his conservative perspective just completely blocked that message. It was funny because he was in rather avid support of the movie’s messages as he saw them too >.
Its not the eyes the are blind nor their ears are deaf, its the hearts. Most people can easily see the most pressing issues affecting humanity as a whole, but its those that convinced themselves that it will affect others not themselves, are fine with it. Growing up, I have always been told that climate change will most negatively affect people in poorer countries, and you can see it in the class room, people don't care, I'm in canada, I'm not in a poor nation, but once they start talking about how it affects us, people start noticing, but even so, people will keep rationalizing that their different from others. We joke about it all the time, each winter gets warmer, each summer hotter, but laugh at how a lot of politicians talk but don't act. Just sort of resigned ourselves to accepting that things won't change till its too late. The only hope is that the majority becomes aware of how the powers that run the country never had the peoples interests in mind but money. It just isn't profitable to be humane.
This definitely is a problem, my mom isn't even conservative and a lot the stuff she says is inherently contradictory to capitalism, but I can't get throught to her. There have been a few moments here and there. But one frustrating moment was when she rejected the analysis I presented (and she even mentioned a study that showed something similiar), but when I tried to ask why she thinks the issue exists then and sje just said "I don't know and that's why I've been so confused why things keep going like this"..... I was simply trying to get her on board with the idea that the individualistic competition for money to pay to live causes greed and makes it harder for people to do things that would help others. Like I don't know how else I could explain it and I don't understand how it isn't obviously true, it seems like she's in her head adding some additional assumption to what I'm saying, because her main retort is that I'm too black and white in my thinking, even when I clarify that I think there are things beyond the economic system that can make people act that way and I'm not being black and white. She's not the only one unfortunately and it's incredibly frustrating and even confusing to me.
This is a great show but all it really does is show how little we care for each other and are completely focused on gaining materials to feel validated in a system that no longer lifts people up but rather gets them to enjoy and even idolize our slavery … seriously, actors who have more wealth then they know what to do with are on the TV trying to tell people everything is just fine the way it is
Actors are not even close to as wealthy as the people really in control. A successful actor may be a multi-millionaire; there are some approaching trillionaire status, a million millions.
The absolute frantic despair he displayed in those interviews absolutely spoke to me when I first watched the movie. It was so simple, but it was based on something that i know to be true.
damn this analysis was really next level, thanks for the further study references, and also this is easily my favourite video on your channel, i think because of how relevant this info is thx
Many people say that this film is an allegory for climate change, but some of these people also say that the comparison of climate change with a comet is an imperfect one, which partially invalidates the message. I do not like this at all, because this makes the filmmakers appear to have failed to do what they set out to do. I actually like the take that this film is a commentary on how people respond to impending disaster in a capitalist society. I think the evidence for this interpretation is very convincing.
I understand why they chose I comet, because a movie needs to move pretty fast to fit all that in. Plus they obviously can't make it directly about climate change, if they want people to not have their biases when watching the movie. They could never digest the points, if they're right away aware that it's about our reaction to climate change. I mean it obviously can apply to disasters in general, but I don't think the timing and the story are because of just a random inspiration, it's definitely our current moment.
Well done!! I would only add: Our government has been completely captured by corporate interests. We now have the merger of corporate and government power, which is called corporatism, but aka fascism. Corporations should be illegal, or illegal to put profit over all else, including life and a planet able to support human life. Capitalism is insane because it's based on the idea of infinite growth in a world of finite resources. Americans represent about 5 to 6 percent of the world's population. Yet, we use up 25 percent of the world's resources!! Our greed (the greed of the owner class) necessitates the suffering of others across the globe!! This new development of "spiritual capitalism" is one of the most misguided developments I've ever witnessed. It's a reflection of desperation and greed, and the failed state that is now the U.S. Sad, very sad. Americans are probably( and ironically) the most propagandized citizens of any country . We've been indoctrinated to associate socialism with communism, and communism with authoritarianism. The truth is, capitalism (or, properly, corporatism) is FAR more authoritarian than socialism!! What we saw in Russia and China was/is as much a corruption of socialism as is our long lost small business, stakeholder capitalism. Socialism is bringing democracy into the workplace!! But most Americans have little to no immunity to propaganda or ability to think critically and independently. If the masses ever understand MMT, perhaps that will upset Americans enough to make them willing to fight and make sacrifices to bring about real change!! It's gotta come from us. We can't vote our way out of this mess, that's for sure. #learnMMT ✌❤🔥👁
A detail about your videos that I really enjoy and that I think really lends an amplified edge to their potency: the subtly emotive, gentle atmospheric and ambient music in the background. Discussing and trying to grapple with modern loneliness, alienation, apathy, and despair under capitalism often leaves one feeling rootless, directionless, and powerless. The gentle anxiety in the background tones are the same hue as that atmospheric sense of confusion. I think what I'm trying to say is that even tho there is alot of technicality and history and economic understanding that goes into these videos, the "human" feeling we all share is that of anxiety and vague despair, and I think you capture that very well.
I don't usually leave comments but I'd like to say I really enjoyed the video and have subscribed to your channel. I'm gonna watch this movie tonight after work with my husband, thank you!
Amazing video Epoch, your videos are continually fantastic and demonstrate an amazing knowledge and analysis on these subjects and they're always a genuine pleasure to watch P.S. I'm just wondering how you manage to edit these videos so well; any tips? They're executed beautifully
Oh nevermind, just seen it's in your Patreon, I don't have the money to sign up. But nevertheless your videos are outstanding and I hope you make a plethora more in the future. Out of interest, are you aware; past Plastic Pills and Acid Horizon; on any good TH-cam channels that make content similar to your own?
No problem at all. Thanks a ton. Lots of time spent in After Effects, and trying to keep an artistic eye on how certain colors, tones, etc. all mesh together you know? Kind of impossible to explain here, but I do have some tutorials. If I could simply type out my editing process, I actually would lol. And yes, watch PlasticPills all the time, and know the dudes over at Acid Horizon. Used to listen to their podcast quite frequently when going between classes in university.
32:15 I wish I and everyone of the people our mindset could enjoy life as it should be not how it is. Enjoy the little things, see the beauty of nature, explore our planet and see many different places. Unfortunately if you don't work a lot and earn enough you are basically as a good as nothing to some people. Can't afford living or even feeding yourself at times. You got to work to keep the "economy" going which in the end a single minute of it won't matter. So what do we do? Here I am and I guess others wanting a better place, but the people so called in charge won't do thing to make it better.
Oh these people in charge do want to make the world better just not for you and me. Only themselves and in the alternative universe they live in that's not rooted in reality. These people literally live on cloud nine and act like entitled children.
Excellent video, you break down all these complex academic topics for the average person to digest. You are making the world a little bit smarter by sharing your knowledge.
From a tired old man, this is spot on.......... What Ive born witness to during these past 60 years has been absolutley and utterly remarkable. Ive found the only why to cope with it is to look at it all with a disstracted sence of ammusment.
Im gravitating more and more towards the following understanding: Mckay and Sirota got a good Idea to a movie dealing with the denialism towards climate change by a comet metaphor, he made the script, selected the actors and them Covid hit. Those involved started to see the similarities between the script and the reality, Mckay Itself need to rewrite some parts of it and in these process something change, he put more and more of what he saw on the news, on the world, on the previous movies like "the big Short" (which is a kind of story about denialism deraliing), and with that the emphasis changed towards corporate motivated scientific denialism as a large, incompassing climate. And despite he still saying that it is a movie about climate, it works even better as a move about scientific denialism as a whole, and that is how not only how the majority of those who liked it understand the movie but it is a refreshing not told before tale who usuallly recieve marginal or at best secundary plots in conventional movies. We know tales about people not being heard, but they are old, not dealins with our current post-truth and social media environment. And somehow that second interpretation kind of ressonate with the Zeitgeist of our current generation.
the science is the film was a great critique of the corruption of science. few characters acted anything but neurotic and psychotic. the belief that science is a monolith was destroyed and we saw individuals that had no concept of how to express anything helpful or real outside of their neurosis-induced fugue states. at every moment where they have an opportunity to express their scientific understanding, but they instead either deflect (as in their proposed solution), avoid, or resort to hysterics. in the film sciencetists are the worst of us, unable to even function as scientists or as with covid they were simply absorbed by capital to sell yet another fiction straight from edward bernays' playbook.
@@jthadcast I think that whatever you are calling science is at odds to the other people definition. Example: Science is no monolith, there is lots of people doing nasty things and scientists are few of the ones who doesnt and the ones who deflect could hardly be called scientists... My guess is a problem of who you are including into the "science" group.
@@Padtedesco talking about the film, two main characters, dr. randall mindy and kate dibiasky or do you not consider them scientists? science in the real world for 70 years we have trillions in malpractice judgments in the health care sciences, big pharma alone. let's not forget big tobacco, asbestos, nuclear, big petrol, big agra the list is infinate of science that is now driving our near term extinction or do you not consider all of them science?
@@jthadcast dr. randall mindy and kate dibiasky did not ordered the missiles to turn around, so why do you put that blame on them? I think i know why. Because the guy who did it is a corporate denialist. Someone who uses degenerated and faulty practices with the goal of generating missinformation. There is corrupted or sold scientists and you are acorrect to say that those are the ones which allign to corporate denialism and help to missinform, generate inaction so profits wont be harmed. Those are anti-science practioners, they are enemy of knowledge, not unlike the worst others who came before. And big tobacco, asbestos, nuclear, big petrol, big agro are all promoters of fake science. They should be called opon that.
@@Padtedesco their first response was to apear on a morning talk show, they described the situation as if they would die at any second, they expected some sort of immediate action, as in we have 10 days to fix this. they didn't have the emotional fortitude to tackel any responsibility. when a civilian overhears them discussing doom kate says "in a video game," instead of being honest. only when hysterical are they honest in a fashion. the first mission was to fire nukes at the asteroid which would not have done anything even if successful (no real science there). the idea that two astronomers would even be needed to consult on a assault of the asteroid is ludicrous. these are completely different disciplines, you need a rocket scientist for craft, you need engineers for blasting not astronomers. they were always played as pr personalities, intentional no doubt, the whole film was a critique on market based science and the feckless nature of celebrity. peter isherwell's scientists also were caricatures of corporate spawned science who's goal was to secure patronage without critical thinking. you are misinformed on science. science has no morality, it seeks answers and always with a limited scope. however, in capitalism the only science that is fleshed out is the science attached to the consumer economy. all real science that you desparage as fake science. science gave us electricity, computers, cars, flight, refining but they never calcualte the externalities because that would end the profit associated with "real science."
I found it to be very moving, and powerful and relatable. I've been living as a vegan since 2017 and often feel like no-one understands why, or cares 🤔.. I did it for the animals and for the planet, trying to spread that message often falls on deaf ears. The frustration is mind boggling sometimes. Capitalism is our enemy...is how I feel...
I suppose we should teach and civilise wild animals that it is morally wrong to eat other animals. Or better yet, I think, plants/fruits shouldn't be eaten altogether too because every thing is ✨ alive ✨
Me and my wife were vegan for over a year. And would totally do it again (or something similar) under certain circumstances. There's a lack of serious infrastructure to accommodate said lifestyle, sadly. Even more so, and more importantly, there's absolutely zero systemic response to how insanely cruel the animal industry is, and how it is playing a large role in the destruction of the planet. Which "systems" itself need to be the main focus in my mind, I think we put way too much stock into personal responsibility regarding the cruelty of industry. It needs to happen top down in my mind to make a serious difference. Really hoping for developments of lab grown meat, and newer technologies that make traditional animal agriculture irrelevant.
The realization that we are in a system in which we are all at mercy of profit, that they would risk it all for nothing. All of human knowledge and culture, the entirety of history, friends, family, pets, earth and its plants and creatures, the land, sky, and sea, all that is beautiful, all that is ugly, all that was and will be, all lost to oblivion. A blind gamble to which there was no prize.
People said the work was "on the nose" but I enjoyed it. Screaming into the void is lonely, and sometimes art makes us feel less alone. Perhaps some people will now see past thier nose
This movie kinda of broke me. Especially the ending. Then transitions to wildlife and celebrants/ the fearful really hammered the message home. What we have is being lost every day. Many refuse to acknowledge it. I, however, am acutely aware of it, and it breaks my heart daily. Capital should NEVER mean more than our planet. Capital should never matter more to us than each other. Yet it's been a dividing wedge that perpetuates everything about us I've grown to abhor.
It's a great critique, however I think it had a weakness I see in a lot of critiques if capitalism: it's not specific enough about what feasible change is required as an alternative. Because of that, I can essentially walk away with the notion of "greed is bad", but no idea of what anyone could practically do to mitigate that effect. It also doesn't help that we've seen the alternatives to capitalism played out in the 20th century, and it showed that capitalism isn't the only system that succumbs to corruption of this sort. I could be wrong, but I suspect that no matter the system, that corruption will take place, and that with the immense power technology gives us today, we as a species are not ready to wield such a power that our intellect and productivity have granted to us.
Crazy the algorithm is giving me this vid for the first time 2 years after you publish. I have watched this movie a single time, and I thought it was fantastically done. For this same reason, and to keep my mental sanity, I CANNOT watch it again. It takes away the hope that Star Wars, Star Trek, and real life have given me. Capitalism is ass
Watched this film while tripping. The effects, particularly the time distortion alongside the film's visuals and concepts, led me to a state of reflection that I consider one of the most profound and hauntingly beautiful experiences. Contemplating the future of humanity, the cycle of hatred, and nature, an intense journey that I hope wasn't my last of such depth Much love l
@@sbibbity_bobbity_bupDefinitely way more of a beautiful move than what many lead on. It's satire is pulled to the forefront but it's incredibly genuine alongside it. The scene in the car when they are listening to jazz on the way to the grocery store personally got me.
I'm simply listening to this video while working, and when you said "postmodernism has been seemingly hijacked by THIS guy" i immediately knew who you meant. It's so abundantly clear.
One person I watch who is a liberal progressive said he didnt like this movie because it "bashed its message into our heads countless times" Well, I'm pretty sure that was the point. People don't react to subtly.
It's so meta that everybody watches Don't look up, agreed with it's message and how well it describes our current situation, and nobody was able to do sh*t about it.
That first 34 seconds said so fucking much in so little. That's the thing though, what "system was better" was literally never up for debate, and all that rage spoke to how true of a statement that is. It will never, ever, ever EVER be anything less than an "ideal society" at the very least. It will never be at the very least a vision of something better. Anyone conceding to anything else is nothing more than a liar.
I didn't watch the movie yet, but I'm most certainly going to do so now. Just one thing really bothered me throughout the video. You've focused too much on money in capitalism. I think what it's actually got us hooked on is comfort. We'd do anything to stay comfortable, nobody even dreams of happiness anymore. That's, in my opinion, the primary consequence of capitalism. In "Heaven in Disorder" Žižek says something like: We'd rather die to the climate change then let ourselves be scared to death by it."
A great video. The world chose in about 1973 the road that would lead to where we are now. The choice was made by the collective group that attacked the "Limits to Growth" report. They won. So, we didn't act when we had time to control the population and build a new civilization based on slow and then no growth and mostly non-fossil fuel energy sources. A lot of the attackers were MainStream economists, who believed in their fantasy world in which their false premises were true. They assumed that the natural world doesn't matter. That energy can be factored out of their theory like they had done with the credit money in the economy from banks making loans. All the attakers were and are sociopaths who believe that their happiness is the ONLY thing that matters. That they have zero obligation to worry about the wellbeing of others. This idea was taught by the MS economic theory. In a major way this theory was a big part of the failure to act in the 70s. . . I was convinced in 1973, so I lived like everyone should have. I lived small. I earned less than US median income in many years. Now I live well only because we retired to Thailand, where Soc. Sec. goes 3 times further and we own 4 acres of land and pay just 280 bhat/yr land tax, which is about $8.50/yr depending on the exchange rate.
Stars above my friends in the comments don’t give up because guess what through organizing we can be powerful, things will be horribly rough and we will have to change so much but if you give up it’s over. We can survive, we can live, it’s not over yet so none of us should go quietly.
"You didn't really get to think of what you thought you thought of." I love it. That's one for the Ayn Rand Institute. We are doing a lot of thinking her for being who don't really think of unique concepts. However, I will say this video needs more thought not promoted by those who push the communist agenda. If you think individualism is amyth, try living in China or Cuba. I dare you.
Great video. I would say that "Don't look up" is one of the best movies that reached mainstream status which presented some thought provoking critical points regarding the current stage of capitalism from the philosophical perspective of the Left. That being said, some of the parallels from the movie don't actually match with the reality we are living with the pandemic. For example, most major television and social media outlets presented the pandemic as a major threat, to the point of even censoring truthful information on social media which potentially threatened the mainstream narrative, such as the existence of the Wuhan virology lab (and thus it's possible connection with the onset of the pandemic), and the dramatic rise in heart incidences in professional football players after vaccination was forced on them in order to continue their careers. Most goverments placed strict lockdowns to reduce the infection rates, to the point of suffocating the life out of middle class buissneses, and thus enlarging even more the gap between economical classes, despite some public intellectuals being vocal that there are smarter measures than the doctrine of "close down everything and lockdown everyone". At the same time, multi-national corporations, supposedly rised up to the occasion by mobilising their scientific workforce, receiving billions in profit by selling vaccine products which failed to do what their manufacturers claimed that it will provide, immunity to covid that is. And the best thing out of it all? The further establishment of an ever more powerful techno-capitalistic internationalist dictatorship. Truly, the control contemporary elitist castes have on our bodies and souls, far exceeds the control of even the most tyrannical monarch of the ancient world had on his subjects.
I don't disagree with any individual think you said, at all. But I don't understand how Covid is relevant to what this film is addressing. It's just another virus that we're taking care of and getting through, like Spanish Flu, Polio, SARS, smallpox, etc. I understand why it was left out of the film, because it would just be a distraction from the point they are already having a hard time making to anyone in charge. Eh. Again I totally agree with what you said, just don't think it would serve any purpose in the point being made... it would most likely muddy the waters, which is exactly what denialists and their death-cult mentality (we're dealing with a lot of people who eagerly welcome the "end of the world" for purely religious reasons, and happily work to accelerate it) want most: a convoluted argument that the average person will ignore. This shit needs to be grassroots, ground-up, people putting the same posters everywhere in the nation on a certain date at night, that say something like "The world will burn if we don't stop"... It has to be a mass strike. That's the only thing that gets their attention. except medical, I suppose. It still blows my mind that a vaccine is a contentions issue. W'eve had them since 50's or so, FDR had Polio for everyone to see, though he did his best to hide it. And you know that most of these people had their kids given the standard cocktail of so they can go to school... what's the difference? It's on the level of flat-earthers, honestly. Yeah, the Wuhan lab should be investigated, check if anything they even worked on was this thing, I don't believe anything like that has been done. It's super fucked, but if we have a situaton where the idiot voters are dying at a great rate compared to the sensible ones, that's helpful politically.
Why do you think the movie has something to do with the pandemic? If anything, it seems to be highlighting extreme apathy in the face of catastrophe. Climate change, globalism, capitalism, greed, poverty… None of this is sustainable. Nice anti-vax rant, though. I love this paradigm of who is the real sheep… Those who listen to the medical establishment or those who say that the medical establishment is complete rubbish? Sadly, I think we are all sheep at this point just trying to make the best decisions we can. The powers that be sure do know that divide and conquer works. We’re proof. In other words, I’m not here to get an argument with you about something that really doesn’t matter much anyway because the entire world is facing obliteration while we argue endlessly about dumb shit on the interwebs as designed.
This is the worst movie I can remember seeing in a very long time. I can’t believe someone is discussing it with this level of seriousness. Imagine a bunch of self- important Hollywood, academic, and media elites made a film where they are the good-hearted adults in the room, and not the technocrats ironically in control of the shit show that’s actually ruining the world.
I felt the meaning of the movie was more about making a decision between right and wrong. When climate change creates new ocean front property or real estate demands in Northern Canada, late stage capitalism will tell on itself
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Yo, friends! Just wanted to give an extra plug to the Patreon/TH-cam members section! It's how I do this thing, and without it, it would be impossible. (I know every creator says this, but, after becoming one and seeing how absolutely little TH-cam pays, I see why lol.) Hopefully there are some cool perks in there that might make it worth it on top of the existing content I create! Thanks again for all being here in the first place.
@@Dkkm10 how has this video discouraged free thought?
@@Dkkm10 Citing the author's literal, verbalized intent of the film/TV show isn't an appeal to authority. I think you want to go back to the drawing board with that one.
Thanks for this
I'm Neoreactionary, Traditionalist...
Really liked it
Looked interesting. Couldn't listen with that awful drone of music over it all.
If you made fewer snarky remarks, I may have liked or subscribed.
Only reason people were ripping on this movie is because it is EXACTLY spot on about how people would react to something like that.
I dont agree, i think the idea of a single moment of destruction is much easier to attack rather than the years of hurt of climate change
Remember that most people agree with, and want action of climate change, systems needed to be put into place to prevent this action
@PropheticShadeZ dude it doesn't matter what the disaster is people will constantly be divided on how to deal with it until it's on their doorstep. I've been back and forth to Ukraine 4 times now the last 2 times as a Militiaman Ukraine was invaded it's a clear cut case of self defense and people are pushing this absurd notion that Ukraine is in the wrong. The whole world should be united right now against Russian aggression but instead of helping Ukraine they sit around making memes. Whether it's World War III, climate change, or threats from space, people will make a joke out of it.
@@PropheticShadeZif most people agreed, we wouldn’t have climate change denial and lobbyists who are fighting against it 😂
No it's because it's complacent Hollywood elites thinking that they're so important that's utterly and laughably grotesque. They really thought that they were making a statement that had anything at all to bring to the table. It's really a so bad it's good movie
They are reacting like that now lol
When Larry Fink of Blackrock, is treated like a head of state at the 2024 G7 Summit, I'm reminded of Mussolini's description of fascism as the "merger of state and corporate power"
That's exactly what happened. It was the corporations that took over the government instead of the other way around
So, fascism its kind of nonmarxist socialism/
The fascists of the progressive era wouldve put Larry fink in a hole with all the other greedy capitalists, whatever we live under now worships them like gods.
That's certainly an element of fascism
@@Mullet-ZubazPants it's not fascism it's zionism
I'm a 77yr old man in Toronto. I want to thank you so very much for the work you've done here. In my lifetime I have seen humanity under capitalism moving farther and farther away from what we value most. Frankly, I've been stunned at the ugliness that passes as progress. Your critique of this movie lays all that out for us to see. It's beyond shocking. I am on the verge of tears as I write this.
Most of the things you blame capitalism for are happening because of democracy. Capitalism is just private property and free exchange of goods and services.
I just turned 69 so being of the same age cohort I have seen and experienced the same as you. What gives me a bit of comfort is viewing the debasement of our culture as part of natural cycles of History. Suggestion? Read The Fourth Turning by Neil Howe; check out Dan Aiello and his 250 cycle hypothesis then chek out Oswald Spengler. I have found all three of these ideas very useful in helping me understand what is going on.
I’m not even 30 yet. I regularly think to myself “Really? This is our best? If each ‘novel crisis’, especially those I’ve seen come to pass, weren’t so inherently predictable, it could be tragic. But it’s not, and this is just depressing.”
My heart warms so much for having these warriors of time watching this content and sharing their views, I am 34 and I would be honnored if I become half the person my mom is, you are beautiful and our unsung heroes. Thank you so much
i'am 17 and its comforting to see older individuals observe this aswell.
Don't Look Up is evidence that irony and satire are no longer possible or, at the very least, far more difficult than in previous eras.
No, they are just simply rendered useless because, while annoying the capitalists and the like, don’t actually do anything to change the circumstances of late capitalism.
It’s evidence that no one is able to think about anything that they don’t already believe in
It's near impossible as we already live in a world as such. Irony and satire itself becomes the norm and thus have no power and meaning anymore.
Media literacy and self reflection is very low for many people in this day and age. It's not merely that 'irony is not possible'.
Could you imagine Stanley Kubrick making “Dr. Strangelove” today?! Nobody would understand the purpose of the film!
"Capitalism makes us uniform in the pursuit of unfettered individuality. We are uniform in the sense that we all actively try to stand out. Because we are so embedded in the pursuit of the aesthetic of individuality; the smokescreen of it, we struggle to think, to act, to exist, when dealt with actual novelty; novelty in art, society and culture, science, and novelty in potential world ending disaster" how poignant and profound. words have never left such an impact on me
I have individuality 😌
Yes, thats what the liberals taught us. Be the individual and screw everything and everyone
Except, it's not remotely true. I drive through suburban neighborhoods everyday with my job and, all I see is conformity everywhere I look. Cars all look the same, people all dress and look the same, people all talk about the same mundane nonsense, food is all the same. Anyone that dresses or behaves even slightly different, sticks out dramatically and is usually laughed and pointed at immediately and it's extremely rare for that even to happen.
@@j85grim4 that's literally the entire point of the quote. you just said the same thing
That's just how humans are, we are tribalistic, you cannot remove the ape from the man just by giving them technology and rules to follow by
One of your best videos, this is being criminally ignored by the algorithm.
only showed up when I searched don't look up with an apostrophe
I searched up hauntology and it was there but like 5-7 vids down. I’m a little late but this vid is a fantastic critique. I’m not familiar with the creator but I am glad he took his time explaining late stage to people who aren’t familiar with these concepts before going into the actual critique.
definitely, I looked for something like this on dont look up a few months ago, so happy to find it now
For profit algorithm +Feds keeps the min wage low ❤
wonder why that might be 😂
Strangely, no one on the West (as far as I've heard) haven't talked about the religious level of sublime in the film. The last scene is precisely Chekhovian as the family meets their end chatting about mundane things with stoic dignity - Cherry Orchard style. The point is not mine, but this ending is very... calming in a bad way? Maybe it's just me, but the desire (and an instruction how to actually desire it, cinema perv) to meet the death with dignity is the very thing that pacifying. Contrary to that, like, no, apocalypse will come, but - bad news - we all will not die in that beautiful (i cried personally) scene with siberian shaman, fire falling from sky, very christian, very catarticly exaltating. No, we will survive to live in a dirty and humiliating world. And it's not that foreign, totally alian world of Mad Max and non-humanity. It will be ours world and the shame and filth will be ours to get by.
“There is no punctual moment of disaster. The world does not end with a bang, it winks out, unravels, gradually falls apart.” -Mark Fisher
on the contrary, we will die in the filth and chaos. the seemingly slow-motion apocalypse is so until the fire falls from the sky and at that point, there will be a bang to signal the end of the anthropocene.
I love that family scene at the end. My thought is that one wants to meet death with acceptance. I almost died once - swept out in a rip tide into the second break in a large area of surf in the ocean. I only lived because I had an experience of a connection to something greater that spoke to me and allowed me to choose to live because I came to a place of acceptance and peacefulness and I calmed down and found my way back to shore. I just think that I come into an apocalyptic event like abrupt climate change where the earth suddenly heats up due to something like the release of a massive amount of Arctic stores of methane that I choose to accept it. Maybe it was the mundane quality of the conversation as opposed to the scene with the shaman that you didn’t like. The shaman seemed to be welcoming the coming of the comet as if it was the force of Shiva destroying the world in the cosmic cycle of death and eventual rebirth. Yet that prayer at the end of family dinner - I was moved.
Hot take Ivan, damn..
There's a sense in which the film desires the comet. It wants it.
I mean 80% of the population wants national healthcare, 75% want legal abortion, 70% are ok with gay marriage. And on and on. Right left and center want serious change in the USAand yet here we are. But lucky for us corporations are well taken care of😊
Why bother with actual important stuff, when you can advocate for the right of maybe 2% of the population to marry and even less ppl to get pronouns
@Gacek130
How does someone like you even end up in the comments of a video like this
@Gacek130 it's 7.1% of the us population, imagine if 2/3 black of 1/2 hispanic people were denied the right to marry, there have been and are political consiferation given to far smaller groups
@@samotter9509 People are starving and you clowns are worried about who marries when lmao. That's why no sane person takes the left seriously, your priorities are all backwards.
Hey companies are people too!
There will come a point when we'll be forced to choose between continuing capitalism and our survival on Earth, and unfortunately we shall choose the former.
Oh we already did that
We're already doing it. People don't give an af. We are choosing our destruction. We want to die and the Earth and the Universe will make sure it comes to pass.
Yep and that time was 20 or more years ago
@@shaneelliott9045 Oil companies knew about it 50 years ago 😵💫
Nope. You can't get out of your responsibilities that easily. We're not dead yet.
We are all responsible for the world.
I like how Yanis Varoufakis puts it. It s not late capitalism, it s the new technofeudalism
Entrepreneurial capitalism has been around for tens of thousands of years, and will continue. Despite the 1848 project.
@@zvorenergy the what? Are you one of those flat earther antivaxx i heard about? Anyway i don t think you understood what technofeudaliam is
@@pigimiceli isn't techno feudalism a return to mercantilism? we are certainly headed back to economic nationalism, ie, mercantilism with a a fall guy and without the colonies.
@@jackiepie7423 No. Technofeudalism is the end of upwards mobility, the consolidation of owner class rich, working class poor, and a survellaince state created with technology and brainwashing, Basically we cut off the heads of kings to end up with corporations with more power than countries and zero accounatability in front of the law. The WEF is already pressuring to be part of UN and have voting rights equal to the other coutnries. Unelected offcials already have has much power inside any major governent as elected ones.
LMAO whatever helps you sleep
This movie definitely felt like I was watching our political system or how most are not reacting to the seriousness of some things .
What's so great about the movie is how it pissed me off because how real the character acted to actual western society.
Weird to think black people caused all of this.
As opposed to eastern society, which refuses to acknowledge that climate change exists
"My takeaway was communism is bad" he says proudly
Cambodia, China, Russia, north Korean.....
Yup. Our hyper specific, non-binary, totally compassionate form of Communism has not yet been tried. 🤣🤣🤣
People like you aren't worth talking to. You didn't critically digest the information @@blastermaster5039
@@blastermaster5039 people who believe Russia is communist can't be helped
@blastermaster5039 just like your hyper-specific, non-binary totally unfettered version of free market capitalism has never been tried?
@@blastermaster5039 China, Nirth Korea and the USSR was a successsful communist project whatsbyour point?
Capitalist realsim: its easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism. Also, socialism works in practice until western capitalist interventionism undermines its progress. Why all the preemptive apprehension? 🤔
right! If socialism was doomed to fail, why must the capitalist shills try so hard to undermine it?
Socialism fails because it requires hundreds of people to be able to achieve similar intelligence of millions.
Only a narcissist could begin to dream that way.
Capitalism works because millions of people can do things smarter than hundreds. This is why government meddling in business rarely ends well and is how you push capitalism to a point it fails.
wait, are you telling me that an entire planet being hostile to a nation typically causes the end of that nation? The fact that socialism works fine until the *entire planet* conspires against it, while capitalism is falling apart in front of us, tells us a lot about the strength of these ideologies.
Well. It's not hard to imagine the end of capitalism. 'Member 1917? 😂
Capitalist countries undermine socialist countries because of all the human rights violations of socialist countries.
Humanity's famous last words:
"This is bad for the economy"
The irony trying to watch this while constantly getting plagued by product propaganda 😢
ad blockers are your best friends
On phone you can't get them😢@spyral00
You're inactivity to not get an adblocker is on you man.
@@pdjinne65 ofc i got one on my pc but not on my phone, thats the only reason i got ads while watching this XD
@@MrBroken030Time to get one hehe... I even built mine myself and it works beautifully without the fear of being spied on or my data being taken.
This is really eye opening but also dangerous to share because the truth hurts
"With its never-ending emphasis on exploitation and expansion, and its indifference to environmental costs, capitalism appears determined to stand outside nature. The essence of capitalism, its raison d'être, is to convert nature into commodities and commodities into capital, transforming the living earth into inanimate wealth." (PARENTI, Blackshirts and Reds).
I can't stop thinking about this.
Capitalism isn’t a person. If we made better consumer decisions then none of this would be a problem
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@@neqi9984 what was wrong with what i said?
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I have been studying, researching, and writing about these subjects for quite a few years now. The fact that I find your TH-cam channel all these years later is quite the statement on the relevance of the information you're sharing.
I know people who have watched the film, and were entertained by it. It is an amazing work of satire. I watched it in a perpetual state of something between disgust, despair, and horror. I suppose there are a lot of us here who are trapped in that 'limbo', and are acutely aware of it. I've watched two of your videos, and they are phenomenal. I am sorry that I didn't know about them sooner.
Hey, thanks so much. Always appreciate these kind of comments.
I managed to watch the first twenty minutes of the film before my frustration levels blew off the scale and I switched it off.
I loved this movie and it made me sick at the same time. The reality of it all is heart breaking.
lol
If you prioritize comfort, the love of the truth dies. When Nietzsche compared master and slave morality, and the world view each shared, consider now a world where most people believe they are now masters. Good, evil, truth, irrelevant. Only victory.
It fascinates me how many people do not realize how scary it is to put stupid people in positions of power.
Real problem is that they think they are smart or don’t need to be. Look at our current prez
They are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing in they are not in favor of yours. If someone has different benefits than you is stupid? I wouldn't think so
Or any people in power for that matter.
They think their not puppets that dont wirk fir the lateral shadow govt
Or even worse, stupid people who think they're smart, who claim to be able to fix everything, who are indifferent or even relish in the suffering they cause (directly and indirectly)...
I think peoples defensive ties to Capitalism is that they still have this 1920’s to 1940’s romanticized ideal of the innovative and worker-centric and region-centric Henry Ford take of Capitalism, the reality is more of an International Capitalism that chases cheap labor, people as “Human Resources”, instead of just readily available resources and cheap goods and has increasingly promoted anti-human/anti-life movements. I’m not pro-Communist either, both focused heavily on the locust of an ideal of “Economic man” and have left landscapes they’ve touched mostly soulless and empty.
It’s corporatized everything, including people. It sells crisis after crisis and then delivers worse solutions for profit. Where communism starved peoples stomachs, capitalism starves peoples souls and sense of meaning.
That was famines we didn't have irrigation systems
An outdated exploitative system. The worst part of it all is its the best we have. Its over. It is SO OVER.
"Biden's personal empathy to promote change?"
Did you mean _apathy?_
He's done some good stuff by now, but totally screwed it all the hell up in his hubris. And remember when he ran (he was in 6th place before the DNC basically made everyone else get behind Biden to stop Sanders, who was in 1st)... he said "nothing will fundamentally change."
Liberals are status quo (horrible). Conservatives WERE status quo, but have become increasingly _regressive_ (even worse).
We're screwed. We had the 10-year warning like 5 years ago, and you know we're going to blow past the point of no return.
It will get bloody, and honestly should have long before today.
I'd like to say that conservatives are revolutionary, because the ideas they wish to preserve are, if only they'd fight for them.
Considering how maoist everything is getting, I sure hope we do.
If not for America, to protect the communists from their stupidity.
Cope and seethe. 😂
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh stop upvoting yourself. It's sad.
I mean he was a breath of fresh air only because the other guy was off his rocker. You are right he was the neoliberal candidate of choice for long term capital interests and sustainability of capital interests
@@DaveE99 getting a breath of air when your drowning in an ocean seems great, until you remember you don't have a raft.
6.1k likes? That's far from enough for what you've created here. Your video is nothing short of extraordinary, especially with the time and effort you've put into a deeply thoughtful and well-articulated philosophical study. You truly deserve much more recognition for this exceptional work.
Thanks so much. A very kind compliment!
I still remember the first time I watched Don’t Look Up at a family vacation and my uncle and I were talking. I mentioned how it was a rather unsubtle metaphor for climate change (not that it was a bad one, just not at all subtle and I don’t think it was trying to be) and he just gave me the blankest look. Even after I explained the similarities to him he was unable to link the two together. Now, he’s a very smart guy, but I gathered his conservative perspective just completely blocked that message. It was funny because he was in rather avid support of the movie’s messages as he saw them too >.
Its not the eyes the are blind nor their ears are deaf, its the hearts. Most people can easily see the most pressing issues affecting humanity as a whole, but its those that convinced themselves that it will affect others not themselves, are fine with it.
Growing up, I have always been told that climate change will most negatively affect people in poorer countries, and you can see it in the class room, people don't care, I'm in canada, I'm not in a poor nation, but once they start talking about how it affects us, people start noticing, but even so, people will keep rationalizing that their different from others.
We joke about it all the time, each winter gets warmer, each summer hotter, but laugh at how a lot of politicians talk but don't act. Just sort of resigned ourselves to accepting that things won't change till its too late. The only hope is that the majority becomes aware of how the powers that run the country never had the peoples interests in mind but money. It just isn't profitable to be humane.
This definitely is a problem, my mom isn't even conservative and a lot the stuff she says is inherently contradictory to capitalism, but I can't get throught to her. There have been a few moments here and there. But one frustrating moment was when she rejected the analysis I presented (and she even mentioned a study that showed something similiar), but when I tried to ask why she thinks the issue exists then and sje just said "I don't know and that's why I've been so confused why things keep going like this"..... I was simply trying to get her on board with the idea that the individualistic competition for money to pay to live causes greed and makes it harder for people to do things that would help others. Like I don't know how else I could explain it and I don't understand how it isn't obviously true, it seems like she's in her head adding some additional assumption to what I'm saying, because her main retort is that I'm too black and white in my thinking, even when I clarify that I think there are things beyond the economic system that can make people act that way and I'm not being black and white. She's not the only one unfortunately and it's incredibly frustrating and even confusing to me.
Amazing work, effort, and passion put into this one as always, Epoch! Thank you for doing what you do
Thanks as always John Cena. I'm very happy you enjoyed!
This is a great show but all it really does is show how little we care for each other and are completely focused on gaining materials to feel validated in a system that no longer lifts people up but rather gets them to enjoy and even idolize our slavery … seriously, actors who have more wealth then they know what to do with are on the TV trying to tell people everything is just fine the way it is
Read my comment on this video.
Actors are not even close to as wealthy as the people really in control. A successful actor may be a multi-millionaire; there are some approaching trillionaire status, a million millions.
Ppl never have and never will care for each other on a global scale.
You've knocked it out of the park with this one. Thank you!
Another very thought provoking video. Wasn't going to watch this film as I generally associate Netflix with an open sewer, however I will now try it.
The absolute frantic despair he displayed in those interviews absolutely spoke to me when I first watched the movie. It was so simple, but it was based on something that i know to be true.
I love how your video consists of examples of everything you're critiquing. Hopefully we can see this marathon to its end.
Fantastic work. I've come to expect nothing less from you. I was looking forward to this and it did not disappoint.
When a society is on the decline, people are kept in check through bread and circuses.
damn this analysis was really next level, thanks for the further study references, and also this is easily my favourite video on your channel, i think because of how relevant this info is thx
Agreed. Just found this vid and channel. It's a fantastic video and I hope more people would view it. 👍
Amazing video - thorough, deeply insightful and moving. Thanks so much.
Dude you need more views this is amazing
Many people say that this film is an allegory for climate change, but some of these people also say that the comparison of climate change with a comet is an imperfect one, which partially invalidates the message. I do not like this at all, because this makes the filmmakers appear to have failed to do what they set out to do. I actually like the take that this film is a commentary on how people respond to impending disaster in a capitalist society. I think the evidence for this interpretation is very convincing.
I understand why they chose I comet, because a movie needs to move pretty fast to fit all that in. Plus they obviously can't make it directly about climate change, if they want people to not have their biases when watching the movie. They could never digest the points, if they're right away aware that it's about our reaction to climate change. I mean it obviously can apply to disasters in general, but I don't think the timing and the story are because of just a random inspiration, it's definitely our current moment.
Well done!! I would only add:
Our government has been completely captured by corporate interests.
We now have the merger of corporate and government power, which is called corporatism, but aka fascism.
Corporations should be illegal, or illegal to put profit over all else, including life and a planet able to support human life.
Capitalism is insane because it's based on the idea of infinite growth in a world of finite resources.
Americans represent about 5 to 6 percent of the world's population.
Yet, we use up 25 percent of the world's resources!!
Our greed (the greed of the owner class) necessitates the suffering of others across the globe!!
This new development of "spiritual capitalism" is one of the most misguided developments I've ever witnessed.
It's a reflection of desperation and greed, and the failed state that is now the U.S.
Sad, very sad.
Americans are probably( and ironically) the most propagandized citizens of any country .
We've been indoctrinated to associate socialism with communism, and communism with authoritarianism.
The truth is, capitalism (or, properly, corporatism) is FAR more authoritarian than socialism!! What we saw in Russia and China was/is as much a corruption of socialism as is our long lost small business, stakeholder capitalism.
Socialism is bringing democracy into the workplace!!
But most Americans have little to no immunity to propaganda or ability to think critically and independently.
If the masses ever understand MMT, perhaps that will upset Americans enough to make them willing to fight and make sacrifices to bring about real change!!
It's gotta come from us. We can't vote our way out of this mess, that's for sure.
#learnMMT
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When the art machine meets the revolutionary machine and the analytic machine.
Capitalism is basically an upward flow of money. From poor man's pocket to the accounts of the rich.
Nicely said! 👍
Did you get a B- in a critical theory 101 class for that?
Yeah but at least capitalism lets you sit anywhere on the stream instead of always being at the bottom.
A detail about your videos that I really enjoy and that I think really lends an amplified edge to their potency: the subtly emotive, gentle atmospheric and ambient music in the background. Discussing and trying to grapple with modern loneliness, alienation, apathy, and despair under capitalism often leaves one feeling rootless, directionless, and powerless. The gentle anxiety in the background tones are the same hue as that atmospheric sense of confusion. I think what I'm trying to say is that even tho there is alot of technicality and history and economic understanding that goes into these videos, the "human" feeling we all share is that of anxiety and vague despair, and I think you capture that very well.
Thank you so much.
Beautifully gripping there at the end, I'm so glad yt finally let this through the gates
I don't usually leave comments but I'd like to say I really enjoyed the video and have subscribed to your channel. I'm gonna watch this movie tonight after work with my husband, thank you!
Hey, thanks so much!
Came here from LSOO, subscribed. Awesome work man
Thanks so much! Glad you are here.
Leonardo da Vinci is such a great actor...
indeed. I particularly love his work from the 1485 film “The Mona in The Iron Mask”.
Meanwhile most people are watching Post Malone go sneaker shopping and desperately trying to become living corporate revenue streams on TikTok...
When did materialism and fame become the new meaning of life?
Amazing video Epoch, your videos are continually fantastic and demonstrate an amazing knowledge and analysis on these subjects and they're always a genuine pleasure to watch
P.S. I'm just wondering how you manage to edit these videos so well; any tips? They're executed beautifully
Oh nevermind, just seen it's in your Patreon, I don't have the money to sign up. But nevertheless your videos are outstanding and I hope you make a plethora more in the future. Out of interest, are you aware; past Plastic Pills and Acid Horizon; on any good TH-cam channels that make content similar to your own?
No problem at all. Thanks a ton.
Lots of time spent in After Effects, and trying to keep an artistic eye on how certain colors, tones, etc. all mesh together you know? Kind of impossible to explain here, but I do have some tutorials. If I could simply type out my editing process, I actually would lol. And yes, watch PlasticPills all the time, and know the dudes over at Acid Horizon. Used to listen to their podcast quite frequently when going between classes in university.
32:15 I wish I and everyone of the people our mindset could enjoy life as it should be not how it is. Enjoy the little things, see the beauty of nature, explore our planet and see many different places. Unfortunately if you don't work a lot and earn enough you are basically as a good as nothing to some people. Can't afford living or even feeding yourself at times. You got to work to keep the "economy" going which in the end a single minute of it won't matter. So what do we do? Here I am and I guess others wanting a better place, but the people so called in charge won't do thing to make it better.
Oh these people in charge do want to make the world better just not for you and me. Only themselves and in the alternative universe they live in that's not rooted in reality. These people literally live on cloud nine and act like entitled children.
This comment section is really depressing
Comment sections always are
They are reacting coherently 😥
any comment section on a video with any political undertones is just wack
Excellent video, you break down all these complex academic topics for the average person to digest. You are making the world a little bit smarter by sharing your knowledge.
From a tired old man, this is spot on.......... What Ive born witness to during these past 60 years has been absolutley and utterly remarkable. Ive found the only why to cope with it is to look at it all with a disstracted sence of ammusment.
Poet Robert Frost said if we couldn't laugh we'd go insane.
Great video!! I haven't actually watched Don't Look Up yet - but now I'll definitely check it out!
Im gravitating more and more towards the following understanding:
Mckay and Sirota got a good Idea to a movie dealing with the denialism towards climate change by a comet metaphor, he made the script, selected the actors and them Covid hit. Those involved started to see the similarities between the script and the reality, Mckay Itself need to rewrite some parts of it and in these process something change, he put more and more of what he saw on the news, on the world, on the previous movies like "the big Short" (which is a kind of story about denialism deraliing), and with that the emphasis changed towards corporate motivated scientific denialism as a large, incompassing climate.
And despite he still saying that it is a movie about climate, it works even better as a move about scientific denialism as a whole, and that is how not only how the majority of those who liked it understand the movie but it is a refreshing not told before tale who usuallly recieve marginal or at best secundary plots in conventional movies. We know tales about people not being heard, but they are old, not dealins with our current post-truth and social media environment.
And somehow that second interpretation kind of ressonate with the Zeitgeist of our current generation.
the science is the film was a great critique of the corruption of science. few characters acted anything but neurotic and psychotic. the belief that science is a monolith was destroyed and we saw individuals that had no concept of how to express anything helpful or real outside of their neurosis-induced fugue states. at every moment where they have an opportunity to express their scientific understanding, but they instead either deflect (as in their proposed solution), avoid, or resort to hysterics. in the film sciencetists are the worst of us, unable to even function as scientists or as with covid they were simply absorbed by capital to sell yet another fiction straight from edward bernays' playbook.
@@jthadcast I think that whatever you are calling science is at odds to the other people definition.
Example: Science is no monolith, there is lots of people doing nasty things and scientists are few of the ones who doesnt and the ones who deflect could hardly be called scientists... My guess is a problem of who you are including into the "science" group.
@@Padtedesco talking about the film, two main characters, dr. randall mindy and kate dibiasky or do you not consider them scientists? science in the real world for 70 years we have trillions in malpractice judgments in the health care sciences, big pharma alone. let's not forget big tobacco, asbestos, nuclear, big petrol, big agra the list is infinate of science that is now driving our near term extinction or do you not consider all of them science?
@@jthadcast dr. randall mindy and kate dibiasky did not ordered the missiles to turn around, so why do you put that blame on them? I think i know why.
Because the guy who did it is a corporate denialist. Someone who uses degenerated and faulty practices with the goal of generating missinformation.
There is corrupted or sold scientists and you are acorrect to say that those are the ones which allign to corporate denialism and help to missinform, generate inaction so profits wont be harmed. Those are anti-science practioners, they are enemy of knowledge, not unlike the worst others who came before.
And big tobacco, asbestos, nuclear, big petrol, big agro are all promoters of fake science. They should be called opon that.
@@Padtedesco their first response was to apear on a morning talk show, they described the situation as if they would die at any second, they expected some sort of immediate action, as in we have 10 days to fix this. they didn't have the emotional fortitude to tackel any responsibility. when a civilian overhears them discussing doom kate says "in a video game," instead of being honest. only when hysterical are they honest in a fashion.
the first mission was to fire nukes at the asteroid which would not have done anything even if successful (no real science there). the idea that two astronomers would even be needed to consult on a assault of the asteroid is ludicrous. these are completely different disciplines, you need a rocket scientist for craft, you need engineers for blasting not astronomers. they were always played as pr personalities, intentional no doubt, the whole film was a critique on market based science and the feckless nature of celebrity.
peter isherwell's scientists also were caricatures of corporate spawned science who's goal was to secure patronage without critical thinking.
you are misinformed on science. science has no morality, it seeks answers and always with a limited scope. however, in capitalism the only science that is fleshed out is the science attached to the consumer economy. all real science that you desparage as fake science. science gave us electricity, computers, cars, flight, refining but they never calcualte the externalities because that would end the profit associated with "real science."
I thought it was _too_ accurate and it sort of didn't hit as entertainment, but a reminder of our fucked up world.
Yeah it wasn't supposed to be entertaining despite being advertised as a dark comedy
Don’t Look Up is to movies what Earth by Lil Dicky is to music
I don’t know what you mean but both are polarizing
Wow! Fantastic! With one video you have clarified so many important concepts with intelligence and clarity. And entertaining! Thank you.😊
I found it to be very moving, and powerful and relatable. I've been living as a vegan since 2017 and often feel like no-one understands why, or cares 🤔.. I did it for the animals and for the planet, trying to spread that message often falls on deaf ears. The frustration is mind boggling sometimes. Capitalism is our enemy...is how I feel...
I suppose we should teach and civilise wild animals that it is morally wrong to eat other animals. Or better yet, I think, plants/fruits shouldn't be eaten altogether too because every thing is ✨ alive ✨
@@akashp01 have a read of 'this is vegan propaganda ' by ed winters. Your arguments/ whataboutary are all addressed in there xxx
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Me and my wife were vegan for over a year. And would totally do it again (or something similar) under certain circumstances. There's a lack of serious infrastructure to accommodate said lifestyle, sadly. Even more so, and more importantly, there's absolutely zero systemic response to how insanely cruel the animal industry is, and how it is playing a large role in the destruction of the planet. Which "systems" itself need to be the main focus in my mind, I think we put way too much stock into personal responsibility regarding the cruelty of industry. It needs to happen top down in my mind to make a serious difference.
Really hoping for developments of lab grown meat, and newer technologies that make traditional animal agriculture irrelevant.
@@epochphilosophy agree with all of that. I wish we had more ethical choices available xxx
This video made me appreciate the movie much more, great analysis!
Really enjoyed this video, the movie was really good and you pointed out things I looked over. Thank you!
The realization that we are in a system in which we are all at mercy of profit, that they would risk it all for nothing. All of human knowledge and culture, the entirety of history, friends, family, pets, earth and its plants and creatures, the land, sky, and sea, all that is beautiful, all that is ugly, all that was and will be, all lost to oblivion. A blind gamble to which there was no prize.
People said the work was "on the nose" but I enjoyed it. Screaming into the void is lonely, and sometimes art makes us feel less alone. Perhaps some people will now see past thier nose
This movie kinda of broke me.
Especially the ending.
Then transitions to wildlife and celebrants/ the fearful really hammered the message home.
What we have is being lost every day. Many refuse to acknowledge it. I, however, am acutely aware of it, and it breaks my heart daily.
Capital should NEVER mean more than our planet. Capital should never matter more to us than each other.
Yet it's been a dividing wedge that perpetuates everything about us I've grown to abhor.
Enjoyed the movie, and now with this additional topping of philosophy seasoning it is even better
When are people going to sick of this uber-capitalistic society? You know...$ justifies everything regardless of consequences.
It's a great critique, however I think it had a weakness I see in a lot of critiques if capitalism: it's not specific enough about what feasible change is required as an alternative. Because of that, I can essentially walk away with the notion of "greed is bad", but no idea of what anyone could practically do to mitigate that effect. It also doesn't help that we've seen the alternatives to capitalism played out in the 20th century, and it showed that capitalism isn't the only system that succumbs to corruption of this sort. I could be wrong, but I suspect that no matter the system, that corruption will take place, and that with the immense power technology gives us today, we as a species are not ready to wield such a power that our intellect and productivity have granted to us.
I feel like people would come here after watching the film for the deep philosophical discussion.
Crazy the algorithm is giving me this vid for the first time 2 years after you publish. I have watched this movie a single time, and I thought it was fantastically done.
For this same reason, and to keep my mental sanity, I CANNOT watch it again. It takes away the hope that Star Wars, Star Trek, and real life have given me. Capitalism is ass
The word is height, not "heighth." I know length, width, and depth all have a TH at the end, but height does not.
Watched this film while tripping. The effects, particularly the time distortion alongside the film's visuals and concepts, led me to a state of reflection that I consider one of the most profound and hauntingly beautiful experiences. Contemplating the future of humanity, the cycle of hatred, and nature, an intense journey that I hope wasn't my last of such depth
Much love l
Oh man, those random scenes showing random clips of nature and people must have hit hard.
@@epochphilosophy the shaman dancing on the mountain top while the meteors hitting all around 😭😭😭
@@sbibbity_bobbity_bupDefinitely way more of a beautiful move than what many lead on. It's satire is pulled to the forefront but it's incredibly genuine alongside it. The scene in the car when they are listening to jazz on the way to the grocery store personally got me.
Thanks to you and your team.
And then everybody died the end.
you got it out!!! i'm so excited to watch this
I did. Super happy to share it!
I'm simply listening to this video while working, and when you said "postmodernism has been seemingly hijacked by THIS guy" i immediately knew who you meant. It's so abundantly clear.
One person I watch who is a liberal progressive said he didnt like this movie because it "bashed its message into our heads countless times"
Well, I'm pretty sure that was the point. People don't react to subtly.
Great video, nothing to add. Commenting mostly to drive engagement and add my grain toward tipping the algorithm
Well poolboy isn't very bright
Another millionaire grifting for billionaires
It's so meta that everybody watches Don't look up, agreed with it's message and how well it describes our current situation, and nobody was able to do sh*t about it.
That first 34 seconds said so fucking much in so little. That's the thing though, what "system was better" was literally never up for debate, and all that rage spoke to how true of a statement that is. It will never, ever, ever EVER be anything less than an "ideal society" at the very least. It will never be at the very least a vision of something better. Anyone conceding to anything else is nothing more than a liar.
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I didn't watch the movie yet, but I'm most certainly going to do so now.
Just one thing really bothered me throughout the video. You've focused too much on money in capitalism. I think what it's actually got us hooked on is comfort. We'd do anything to stay comfortable, nobody even dreams of happiness anymore. That's, in my opinion, the primary consequence of capitalism.
In "Heaven in Disorder" Žižek says something like: We'd rather die to the climate change then let ourselves be scared to death by it."
Everyone just stopped trying to get to the top of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.. The "Self-actualization" part
The irony of Hollywood selling this idea back to the people but doing nothing to combat it is peak our current era
A great video. The world chose in about 1973 the road that would lead to where we are now. The choice was made by the collective group that attacked the "Limits to Growth" report. They won. So, we didn't act when we had time to control the population and build a new civilization based on slow and then no growth and mostly non-fossil fuel energy sources. A lot of the attackers were MainStream economists, who believed in their fantasy world in which their false premises were true. They assumed that the natural world doesn't matter. That energy can be factored out of their theory like they had done with the credit money in the economy from banks making loans. All the attakers were and are sociopaths who believe that their happiness is the ONLY thing that matters. That they have zero obligation to worry about the wellbeing of others. This idea was taught by the MS economic theory. In a major way this theory was a big part of the failure to act in the 70s.
. . I was convinced in 1973, so I lived like everyone should have. I lived small. I earned less than US median income in many years. Now I live well only because we retired to Thailand, where Soc. Sec. goes 3 times further and we own 4 acres of land and pay just 280 bhat/yr land tax, which is about $8.50/yr depending on the exchange rate.
I love how this movie came out and no one was able to apply it to covid lol. Just shows you what’s really happening and how it all works
this was great and im excited for more media videos. i consumed it willing and found it adequate.
Stars above my friends in the comments don’t give up because guess what through organizing we can be powerful, things will be horribly rough and we will have to change so much but if you give up it’s over. We can survive, we can live, it’s not over yet so none of us should go quietly.
Lmao that Tim pool take always cracks me up.
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"You didn't really get to think of what you thought you thought of." I love it. That's one for the Ayn Rand Institute. We are doing a lot of thinking her for being who don't really think of unique concepts. However, I will say this video needs more thought not promoted by those who push the communist agenda. If you think individualism is amyth, try living in China or Cuba. I dare you.
Fantasic work!
Beautiful explanation. Perfect. I have called it Cancer Capitalism for decades now. Let's hope some species survive, not humans though...
That rocked.
Thanks friend.
This video is really good
Great video. I would say that "Don't look up" is one of the best movies that reached mainstream status which presented some thought provoking critical points regarding the current stage of capitalism from the philosophical perspective of the Left.
That being said, some of the parallels from the movie don't actually match with the reality we are living with the pandemic. For example, most major television and social media outlets presented the pandemic as a major threat, to the point of even censoring truthful information on social media which potentially threatened the mainstream narrative, such as the existence of the Wuhan virology lab (and thus it's possible connection with the onset of the pandemic), and the dramatic rise in heart incidences in professional football players after vaccination was forced on them in order to continue their careers. Most goverments placed strict lockdowns to reduce the infection rates, to the point of suffocating the life out of middle class buissneses, and thus enlarging even more the gap between economical classes, despite some public intellectuals being vocal that there are smarter measures than the doctrine of "close down everything and lockdown everyone". At the same time, multi-national corporations, supposedly rised up to the occasion by mobilising their scientific workforce, receiving billions in profit by selling vaccine products which failed to do what their manufacturers claimed that it will provide, immunity to covid that is. And the best thing out of it all? The further establishment of an ever more powerful techno-capitalistic internationalist dictatorship. Truly, the control contemporary elitist castes have on our bodies and souls, far exceeds the control of even the most tyrannical monarch of the ancient world had on his subjects.
I don't disagree with any individual think you said, at all. But I don't understand how Covid is relevant to what this film is addressing. It's just another virus that we're taking care of and getting through, like Spanish Flu, Polio, SARS, smallpox, etc. I understand why it was left out of the film, because it would just be a distraction from the point they are already having a hard time making to anyone in charge. Eh. Again I totally agree with what you said, just don't think it would serve any purpose in the point being made... it would most likely muddy the waters, which is exactly what denialists and their death-cult mentality (we're dealing with a lot of people who eagerly welcome the "end of the world" for purely religious reasons, and happily work to accelerate it) want most: a convoluted argument that the average person will ignore. This shit needs to be grassroots, ground-up, people putting the same posters everywhere in the nation on a certain date at night, that say something like "The world will burn if we don't stop"... It has to be a mass strike. That's the only thing that gets their attention. except medical, I suppose.
It still blows my mind that a vaccine is a contentions issue. W'eve had them since 50's or so, FDR had Polio for everyone to see, though he did his best to hide it. And you know that most of these people had their kids given the standard cocktail of so they can go to school... what's the difference?
It's on the level of flat-earthers, honestly. Yeah, the Wuhan lab should be investigated, check if anything they even worked on was this thing, I don't believe anything like that has been done. It's super fucked, but if we have a situaton where the idiot voters are dying at a great rate compared to the sensible ones, that's helpful politically.
Why do you think the movie has something to do with the pandemic?
If anything, it seems to be highlighting extreme apathy in the face of catastrophe. Climate change, globalism, capitalism, greed, poverty… None of this is sustainable.
Nice anti-vax rant, though. I love this paradigm of who is the real sheep… Those who listen to the medical establishment or those who say that the medical establishment is complete rubbish?
Sadly, I think we are all sheep at this point just trying to make the best decisions we can. The powers that be sure do know that divide and conquer works. We’re proof.
In other words, I’m not here to get an argument with you about something that really doesn’t matter much anyway because the entire world is facing obliteration while we argue endlessly about dumb shit on the interwebs as designed.
Fantastic video! Thank you for producing it. Just learned of your channel and subscribed... just fantastic!
Found that movie so annoying that i couldn't get past the first 10 minutes. Great video as always tho.
This was a great movie. Very telling the general public HATED it. There was many unpopular opinions definitely being displayed.
Amazing. Thank you
Thanks, Karl. Quite enjoy your writings. Shame the world had to do you like they've done!
@@epochphilosophy I think my writings are more important than ever at the moment. But thank you regardless my spectre will haunt your videos comrade
This summary is right along with how I felt about A24s Civil War
That movie sucked so bad
This is the worst movie I can remember seeing in a very long time. I can’t believe someone is discussing it with this level of seriousness. Imagine a bunch of self- important Hollywood, academic, and media elites made a film where they are the good-hearted adults in the room, and not the technocrats ironically in control of the shit show that’s actually ruining the world.
they go hand in hand, capitalism, technocracy, neoliberalism all are bad for us well...mainly the environment
I felt the meaning of the movie was more about making a decision between right and wrong. When climate change creates new ocean front property or real estate demands in Northern Canada, late stage capitalism will tell on itself