God and Gender Identity | Chad Moore | Sun Valley Community church

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  • @williambeeston573
    @williambeeston573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really appreciate the loving and compassionate way in which you took on this subject. We need grace and love for everyone.

  • @emmapytlik830
    @emmapytlik830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for using your gifts of preaching to share God's word and message.

  • @MoveYogaLife
    @MoveYogaLife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow what a great service! I love how uncomfortable and triggering these topics are! I hope the uncomfortableness is appreciated and that the tools we are taught to use in the uncomfortableness of life are being used to help us through these tough but necessary topics! I know I’ve been triggered already many times in this series and all though my EGO hates it my SOUL SPIRIT is screaming YESSSS FINALLY!!! Thanks sun valley and chad for having the courage to speak of topics that the world is talking about but many Christian’s and religious folks are scared to look at that alone talk about! Keep it up in gods glory! Amen Namaste blessings

    • @DunkBoi
      @DunkBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Be careful with Yoga. It's absolutely a form of worship to a different god than the one true God. Check what the Catholic Church teaches on this.

  • @marguiozbun
    @marguiozbun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A very timely and well executed message. It gives a clear understanding of hope for those whose are dealing with this issue. Thank you.

  • @shanethompson7878
    @shanethompson7878 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very well done and its obvious Chad just wants people to understand. I am a former HC in football and most mistakes are made on the field because of a lack of understanding. This is how you go about this Chad. 🏆🙏

  • @carinacristianoheart
    @carinacristianoheart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you Pastor Chad! Much appreciated sermon to share with friends and families, especially parents! Thank you for your grace in delivering such an eloquent message of God’s love for us. 🙏❤

  • @whythisnowduffey
    @whythisnowduffey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Let this encourage us!

    • @pamelar.7493
      @pamelar.7493 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes let this encourage us to advocate for our children. So the statistic of 1 in 5 children who identify as transgender have attempted suicide. I am more concerned keeping my child alive than worrying if they identify as male or female.

  • @nicolecruse7811
    @nicolecruse7811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need to continue to pray for our children!!!

  • @janengdahl6710
    @janengdahl6710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for such a loving thoughtful message.

  • @karifredrikson-lr1mm
    @karifredrikson-lr1mm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really helped me as a Grandmother, thank you!

    • @unraged6004
      @unraged6004 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would like to note that several of Chad's statements are false, and I would encourage you to speak to people who are actually transgender. Furthermore the proper treatment is puberty blockers until the age of 16. Only then are they considered mature enough to transition. In Addition the 70% regret statistic Chad shared is very much false. Between 95 and 97 percent of those who transition do not regret it, and of those who detransition a large portion do so not because of regret they receive but because of the way society treats them and later go on to retransition later in life.

  • @CrimsonWhiteIndigo
    @CrimsonWhiteIndigo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude sounds like he should be a high school football coach… I love it!

  • @soniacarlson4942
    @soniacarlson4942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chad rather disparagingly calls out trans identities as being based on "stereotypes," and insinuates that his belief is that men and women can have a diversity of interests/presentation, regardless of whether they align with what we might culturally consider to be masculine or feminine (e.g. his wife is super into sports and also likes wearing sparkly things, and she's a woman).
    First, i gotta say that i don't think anyone would ever suggest a female might be trans simply because they like sports, or a male because they like art!!!
    But I also wonder if the same attitude would be extended to a person you would identify as biologically male who comes to church in, say, a dress, heels, and "stereotypically" femme makeup? These "stereotypes" are cultural norms that have powerful meanings in society, and you can't just handwave all that away by stating that those things don't matter, and that adopting a trans identity is somehow unnecessary or not personally meaningful.
    Also, i wonder: where is the line? If a man acts and dresses very femme, but still uses the pronoun "he" and calls himself a man, is that ok? If a person "passes" as cis (e.g. a bio female who has the appearance/genitalia of a woman) but wants others to refer to them with the pronouns "they/them," does that cross a line? And what is the biblical basis for any of this?
    The best point Chad made here is to love and embrace the trans people in your life. If you actually want to understand diverse gender identities, you will need to look somewhere other than this sermon. But he is right that all people deserve love and respect, and a trans-gendered person is no more sinful than a cis person!

    • @stevethefishdotnet
      @stevethefishdotnet 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello there, I read your comment and I hope you'll take the time to read what I have to say in response. Pastor Chad's statement on how the trans movement is based on stereotypes is not his idea but that of the trans movement. He is pointing out the fallacy of how they rely on such stereotypes to define gender. To prove the point, why do trans men always feel the need to wear gobs of makeup and always wear dresses? My wife does not, yet she is a real woman.
      I married a girl who loves flowers but also loves slasher flicks. She never wears makeup and the only time she ever wore high heels was at our wedding reception. She grew up catching frogs and insects and loves cicadas as well as butterflies. Ever seen a huge, Japanese rhinoceros beetle? She taught me to love those. Twice a day she meticulously clips the sharp legs off of crickets to feed to her pet toad which she adores, and that makes me squeamish. I've seen pictures of her as a child with short hair, wearing jeans and climbing trees. She was definitely a tomboy. Myself, I have never enjoyed sports thanks to a tetanus shot that damaged my brain and wrecked my coordination when I was 4. I rather love art and such, and I have a Snoopy doll above my head when I sleep. I was accused of being gay all throughout school, and I have always emphasized harmonious relationships over competition. These are all attributes that one would consider "female." Pastor Chad even addressed this caveat in his sermon.
      What Chad is saying is that according to the trans movement, I would have been erroneously assigned a "female" mentality and my wife would likewise have been assigned a "male" mentality according to today's Western trans movement ideology. This is harmful and wrong. These transsexuals can only be a pale imitation of the opposite sex. These men are more of a caricature of a woman, obsessed with what they think a woman is. They always wear dresses and try to act more like a woman than an actual woman does. Every month I have to call my daughter's school to tell her she will be absent because she's lying in bed with bad menstrual cramps, yet one of these men has the gall to lecture me on how he feels that he knows what being a woman is all about? Or some woman can get a double mastectomy, get a butch haircut, yet she still can't bench press half her weight, let alone open a jar of pickles on her own? This is the sort of fallacy Pastor Chad is addressing. These creeps who read perverted books to children at these "drag queen story hour" events at libraries appear as a mockery of woman rather than how an actual woman looks. And he obviously avoided the fact that living year after year pretending to be something that one can never actually be is extremely depressing, which leads to suicide. Especially for those who have been encouraged to mutilate their bodies and cannot detransition. People who are deluded into pursuing such fallacy end up becoming slaves to Big Pharma and dependent on hormones which are not natural to their God-given bodies, which can lead to cancer and suicide.
      1 Corinthians 6:18 says: _Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body._ So yes, sin is sin. Sexual sins, however, are heaped upon oneself and prevents the flow of God's grace into one's soul. As for the "preferred pronouns" issue, this was never a thing until more recent years. Do your research into the Tavistock Institute as this think tank is one of the major sources that cooks up these social issues which only serve to pit us against each other. The end result is that it's causing young men to become frustrated and give up on finding love, and is thus leading to depopulation, which is another big agenda. These global institutions want us depressed and alone, and dependent on pharmaceuticals. Such a population is more easily controllable.

    • @robertb1157
      @robertb1157 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevethefishdotnet "To prove the point, why do trans men always feel the need to wear gobs of makeup and always wear dresses?"
      No need to read any more of that mess. 2 sentences in and Speve is intentionally mis-gendering and incorrectly stereotyping trans WOMEN. Jesus would loathe you, Sterve.

    • @padams5461
      @padams5461 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stevethefishdotnet Chad doesn't know the Trans movement (his words not mine). That is like saying the Black community is a monolith. IT is EMBARRASSING and frankly SAD for him to say such non-sense. And no, the Transgender movement does NOT rely on stereotypes. Every heard of non-binary? Gender fluid? Two-Spirited? Androgyny? Queer? If Chad wants to speak about another community, perhaps he needs to live among that community, and actually research.

  • @bkucenski
    @bkucenski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think there was only a couple points missed. The first is why do you think Hispanic girls are more likely to want to be boys? How many Hispanic boys would have rather been born a girl to be treated like girls are treated in patriarchal society. If girl babies in China had a choice, do you think they'd rather be left to die in the woods or have gender reassignment surgery? A lot of the motivation is external as well. Mulan is a pretty old movie. Girls have to be boys to be treated as equals in many societies. Ask yourself, would you want to trade places with your wife in your marriage? Would you want to trade your white skin for black skin in our society? Do you think anything would change in how you are treated by others?
    And the second point relates to awareness. There are no more gay people today per capita than 60 years ago. Except today you can come out as gay and not expect to be shot and dumped in a ditch. Or to be fired from your job. Dave Ramsey in 2022, fired a woman for marrying her female partner. Ramsey was sued for 70,000 and lost. Probably one year salary. We can't confuse oppression with "non-existence." Dave Ramsey is the villain in that story. In 2022. 60 years after the Civil Rights Act. It's disgusting.
    And it would have been good to go more into how we treat people who have already made the point to transition. They are not a cursed people. They belong in our churches. They can serve the community. They can be loved. They can demonstrate the love of Christ to others. They are equals. And as you said, when they die, they will get the perfect body of God's design.
    Nature makes mistakes in our world.

    • @DunkBoi
      @DunkBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @bkucenski I'm still watching this sermon but I agree that those who have transitioned should be in the church however, I don't think it's appropriate to have them serve in the church. This would essentially state that it's okay to be trans and not repent for the sin of being trans. The church shouldn't platform trans people but they should love them and help them overcome the disease of transitioning. I much prefer the Catholic stance on this.
      God makes no mistakes when creating a human in the womb of its mother.

    • @bkucenski
      @bkucenski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DunkBoiShould you also not serve in the church because you're still living in sin? Once you transition it cannot be undone. To treat it like some unforgivable sin or act like they're a leper is a sin on your part, not theirs.
      Saying nature doesn't make mistakes is pretty silly considering all the death and disease that comes out of the womb every day in the world. Stillborn babies. Conjoined twins. Birth defects. Etc.

    • @DunkBoi
      @DunkBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bkucenski if someone is trans and continue to be trans then they should not be serving in the church, they shouldn't be platformed since it will deliver the wrong message to the church. If they are actively removing their wrongs and repeating of their sins, then sure, they can serve but the church. But God makes no mistakes, you say nature like it's separate from God. God makes zero mistakes and if something like a stillbirth happens that isn't a mistake, if anything, it's a blessing and a lesson given to those involved.
      Conjoined twins and birth defects aren't diseases, they are people made in the image of God and, if anything, is God showing the strength of Man and giving them life to bring joy into the world. I would hope you can see that.
      You're using the same response that being who agrees with abortion use when speaking about birth defects.

    • @bkucenski
      @bkucenski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DunkBoi are you perfect?

    • @DunkBoi
      @DunkBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bkucenski Of course not. No one is.

  • @user-vd3bf3nd6r
    @user-vd3bf3nd6r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am disappointed that you never talked about sexual desire and attraction. To which sex is an individual...male or female....attracted?
    I don't agree that the greatest Christian is Paul. If we look at Paul he is a hater. .. a hater of lgbt's and a hater of women etc. How can a hater be the greatest Christian? The increase in statistics showing that more people are transgender may simply be that people are no longer willing to allow heterosexuals to define their sexuality for them. With that said, 1 in 5 is high and I am saddened by the fact that it affects 9-15 year olds. I don't think they are able to define their sexuality by 15. We are back to the question: To which sex is an individual attracted? I have to strongly agree with you that it is not good to allow a 14 year old to decide what to do with his/her body when it comes to sexual disphoria, the taking of hormones, or gender surgery.
    I do wish you would have stressed a bit more that it was heterosexuals (Adam and Eve) who brought all sin, all evil, all concupiesence into the world. I wish you would have stressed more that it was Adam and Eve who submitted to Satan and gave him dominion over the whole earth (see Jesus' temptation in the desert when Satan offered him all the Kingdoms of the earth). They were indeed Satan's to give because HETEROSEXUALS turned dominion of the earth over to Satan. If it is Satan who brings about gender disphoria, it is heterosexuals who sold out the LGBT community to Satan. For this reason, I find it a good thing that LGBT's no longer allow heterosexuals to define their sexuality for them. Furthermore, I think it is important to note that heterosexual social structure with its unearned privleges for the heterosexual man and woman is, in fact, the kingdom of Satan.
    Finally, as a pastor, I think you generally care about people. This is rare (at least in my church). I'm Roman Catholic and a document on the pastoral care of the homosexual person basically calls LGBT's names and says that it is perfectly understandable why straights hate gays. (a big mistake because as an LGBT it is perfectly understandable why they can hate straights). My church set up a horrible dilemma that I am afraid will not end well and will cause ever greater division. But alas, rare is the Pastor who talks to LGBT's, but those who have no problem talking ABOUT them to other peophigh. LGBT's are human being and pastors talking about them behind their back to say "why they are sick" is never acceptable .
    For this reason, I added the second paragraph above as a suggestion as to how you might make your talk a bit more appealing to LGBT's. I think your point is good. But as soon as you mention LGBT's, as a pastor, they automatically know where the talk is going. Do what you want. But please be aware the information in the second paragraph may help with automatic dismissal by the very people you wish reach. Not comfortable I'm sure, but do you want to reach your audience (those contemplating transgender surgery) or not? Finally, I can see that Paul may in fact be a good Christian and I understand that the early church never viewed or used Pauls writing as an attack on LGBT's. Unfortunately, Paul has been used as a club to bash LGBT's repeatedly by heterosexuals in the modern era and your mention of him will automatically make the audience you most need to reach, turn against you. I hope you understand that I think your message needs to be heard, but you are going to alienate the audience you most need to reach if you don't change your presentation a bit.

    • @DunkBoi
      @DunkBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Adam and Eve were not just heterosexuals but human beings. Heterosexuals didn't bring sin into this world but freewill did. Sin is sin no matter who does it but not repenting of your sins is a problem. Furthermore, without heterosexuals, humanity dies off pretty quickly.
      As a Catholic myself I'm surprised you are not in agreement with what the Church teaches on this matter, and maybe I misinterpreted what you wrote but I actually find what the Church teaches on LGBT people to be really refreshing and inviting without accepting the act that sometimes comes along with that group of people.
      All in all, the message this pastor was speaking on was really a secular way to approach it and not one based in teachings of Christ or his Church (the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of course).

  • @stacyfowler3673
    @stacyfowler3673 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if your son sleeps with another man its ok

  • @juergfuerer1219
    @juergfuerer1219 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Lord will judge you all soon!

  • @unraged6004
    @unraged6004 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of the statistics provided in this video are wildly inaccurate

  • @pamelar.7493
    @pamelar.7493 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you Pastor Chad for continuing the bullshit of spewing your own condemnation of anything that does not follow your pretty picture of Christianity. As I was a loyal member of your church for over 2 years and now have been cast aside by your leaders because my child chose to go by a different name and no one would acknowledge the chosen name. I am being the parent and will not medically change anything on my child until they are done developing, it is NOT up to a church to dictate a name for a person. I feel that God has wonderfully and fearfully made my child in God's image and by them not conforming to a stereotypical gender that they are closer to God than I will ever be.

    • @DunkBoi
      @DunkBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why did your child change their name and why did you allow them to do this?

    • @pamelar.7493
      @pamelar.7493 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DunkBoi why did Jesus change the names of his apostles? It's just a name.

    • @elkforests
      @elkforests 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@pamelar.7493 I know you love your child, but you can't compare Jesus calling people to something greater, to someone being uncomfortable with stereotypes. That's all they are. Stereotypes. Your child can still live a full life being who they are and pursuing their (society claimed, opposite gendered) interests without claiming they have the wrong body.
      They can still live a full life without denying their body that just wants to be loved and taken care of.

    • @DunkBoi
      @DunkBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@pamelar.7493 I'm sorry, but you are completely wrong. Anytime God changed the name of someone in the Bible it was leading them to do great things. See Matthew 16:18 when Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter. "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. [19] I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
      Now, my question to why your child is changing thier name was out of curiosity. Because if they are changing their name because they're having gender dysphoria, then you're enabling that by allowing them to change their name. If they're changing their name just because they want to change the name from something like Marcus to Mark then I'm totally fine with that. And the church is too.

    • @Darius-dk4ct
      @Darius-dk4ct 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If your child said he or she identifies as a pedophile, would you support that?