How do automotive (FMCW) RADARs measure velocity?

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  • @Syndesi
    @Syndesi หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Your way of explaining these complicated topics in an easy to follow manner is really impressive, especially when combined with all the custom animated visualizations, real life examples and demo code to play with. I'm really blown away by your work, and I am looking forward to more episodes :D

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Syndesi wow!! Thank you so much! I’m really happy that you’ve gotten some value from it 😊

  • @SamAlton
    @SamAlton หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I can't believe the quality of these videos - your presentation is top notch. You're the 3blue1brown of RF systems.
    My role at my work is more related to analog signals, but I've always had a fascination and appreciation for RF. These videos definitely scratch that itch for me. Looking forward to more!

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks so much! I have a huge appreciation for analog design as well. So many cool fields in EE :)

  • @benedekt.5909
    @benedekt.5909 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I took me almost 3 years to rediscover fast and slow time principle and the reason for the vertical fft, instead of blindly reprogramming the relevant literature magic in my implementation. This video is perfect for understanding this complex concept, thanks!

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@benedekt.5909 thanks so much! I’m really happy that you found the video to be useful. Hopefully the notebook helps with that too.

  • @JoshuaZitoJZ
    @JoshuaZitoJZ หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This video is really impressive. The level of quality in this video blows away university lectures and you made this so easy to understand. I can imagine sitting in class and not understanding anything the professor said but this is completely the opposite.
    Great work and keep it up!

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That means so much! So glad you found it useful!

  • @mcintoda9
    @mcintoda9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This video was more challenging to follow, but I appreciate the practical chip level example

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Anything you think would have made it more approachable? It's definitely a hard concept, so I'd love to know if you have any suggestions for explaining it better

    • @mcintoda9
      @mcintoda9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m not sure who your audience is. Casual science people? Engineers who work in the area? All of the above? As an engineer a concrete example with real parameters always is the most understandable way to digest.

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I want it generally to be helpful and interesting to anyone interested in radar. Unfortunately, this video and many others require some base knowledge of sampling, antennas, etc. that would make it very difficult to fit in a shorter video to include it all. That's why I added the real example of the TI radar chip so that people could see how it would work in a real system. Thanks for your input!

  • @LeonardoPJ
    @LeonardoPJ หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Excellent video. You mentioned the radar from Texas Instruments; I am using the IClegend ones (S3KM111L and S5KM312CL). They also perform these conversion processes. In the paper "On Fundamental Operating Principles and Range-Doppler" by Milovanović, the 2D-FFT is well described.

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for the reading recommendation! Just looked it up. Yeah there's many options but I had previously looked into the TI one I showcased, so I chose to go with that. Thanks for watching :)

    • @LeonardoPJ
      @LeonardoPJ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MarshallBrunerRF Did you work only with this hardware?

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LeonardoPJ no most of my work on FMCW systems has been on analog devices phaser radar

  • @polares8187
    @polares8187 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is freaking amazing. Also you are beyond amazing for providing the links to the books. Great channel

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much! Hopefully you find some use in the resources

    • @anton33779
      @anton33779 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MarshallBrunerRF does 14:51 mean that you can just screw over a fmcw Radar if you have 100 drones going the exact same speed? As always an amazing video, I had to reply here because TH-cam doesn't show me the comment bar

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      With this technique you can differentiate between targets if they are separated in range OR velocity. So as long as the drones aren't in the same spot traveling at the same speed, you should be able to detect them. Thanks for the comment!

    • @anton33779
      @anton33779 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MarshallBrunerRF ah I didn't get the position part thanks

  • @notravstar
    @notravstar หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good videos, I'm really enjoying them and learning a lot. Keep it up!

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Took a break from working on the next video to respond to comments - will definitely keep them coming :) Thanks for watching!

  • @nr.bln.
    @nr.bln. หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I know this might be repeating most of the other comments here but I really appreciate your work and your way of presenting these complex topics in such an understandable way without dumbing them down to the point of being superficial.
    You are proving such a huge amount of value in terms of understanding and I wish you the best 🫶

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woah thanks so much!! I'm so glad to hear people are getting value out of them. Hopefully the value continues beyond the videos with the resources and python notebooks. Thanks again - it means a lot :)

  • @ole1907
    @ole1907 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your videos are impressive. Thank you and keep up the good work.

  • @xavierdemers-bouchard2747
    @xavierdemers-bouchard2747 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    God I love your videos. Always the highlight of my day. So clear. AND study material! Good lord.

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      So happy you enjoyed it!

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try out the challenge if you get time!

  • @michaelkeil5525
    @michaelkeil5525 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you very much for this professional and informativ video. Helped me and my friend to understand FMCW Radars :D

  • @joshp8820
    @joshp8820 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is wonderful education done for free, thank you.

  • @JonelPericon
    @JonelPericon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your video is incredibly helpful, and I can see the effort you put into explaining such a complex topic. By the way, would you consider adding FPGA implementation in your next video?

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      So glad you found the video useful! I'm not sure how I would do a video well talking about the FPGA implementation, but I can do some research and consider it. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @ac4uv
    @ac4uv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Marshall! Brilliant talk

  • @DumbledoreMcCracken
    @DumbledoreMcCracken 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very generous of you. Thank you so much!

  • @electrowizard2000
    @electrowizard2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video, you did a great job motivating each improvement and let me feel like I was discovering it for myself.

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! That was my goal :)

  • @eriksunden4704
    @eriksunden4704 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man, i never expected nmr spectroscopy to come in handy for learning radar modulation. This is literally just 2D-NMR on the conceptual level XD

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So many of these concepts are useful across multiple domains :)

  • @cookingmaster6874
    @cookingmaster6874 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep up the good work!

  • @rudolfhans9106
    @rudolfhans9106 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed the video.
    Would be call to get an video or some infos on distributed radar systems with enhanced virtual aperature. Heard some infos about implementation of those in cars.
    Some one got any Infos, books, websites on that topic?

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This would definitely be an interesting topic to cover!

  • @yannikmuller2195
    @yannikmuller2195 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sometimes you just find a gem on TH-cam

  • @_ifly
    @_ifly หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    thank you so much for this amazing explanation waiting for more about FMCW such as ( Range, Angle, Velocity) extraction and also and noise removal. also if you could explain about vital sign

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching! Yeah angle of arrival estimation is super interesting as well and I would love to cover it! For noise removal, I will definitely cover various clutter suppression techniques, but for now I have a video on CFAR that covers target detection if you're interested.

  • @amitlanis3104
    @amitlanis3104 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!!! (Btw this comment is from before I saw the video)

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL hopefully when you finish the video you stick by it being a great video :)

  • @mass1s
    @mass1s หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if the target velocity is high enough that the phase of the return changes more than 2 pi radians between chirps? The target would show up with the wrong velocity due to aliasing. I presume long range radars with low chirp rates use a different method?

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah so that's part of your system design and estimating what your environment will include. For this I chose 24 m/s for the max velocity but for many systems you might want to choose higher than that. You can definitely get aliasing, same as you can with range targets being above your sampling frequency.

  • @nadavgvili9684
    @nadavgvili9684 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job , subbed

  • @Marcin648
    @Marcin648 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great explained! I wasn't far off with the idea of ​​checking the rate of change of the target's frequency, but 2D FFT is much better!
    Any cheaper solution for hardware then ADALM-PHASER? As I guess my half-duplex HackRF is not sufficient for radars. :)

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah there's some awesome chips from TI that have eval boards you can pick up for a little over $100 last time I checked. Thanks for watching!

  • @Avriox
    @Avriox หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing stuff!

  • @bobmike2373
    @bobmike2373 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    damn a whole graduate class in less than 20mins. youtube university for the win

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL hopefully the resources help with some deeper understanding too. Thanks for watching!

    • @bobmike2373
      @bobmike2373 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ yes! i missed out on an electronic warfare class in my undergrad but the visuals here really helped me understand what i was able to glean from some of my class mates.

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So glad it helped!

  • @kamsibryan2974
    @kamsibryan2974 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What will be the formula to Calculate velocity for a stationary object

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can apply both of these same concepts with a 0 velocity target - the output would just be a zero. Try plugging in a 0 velocity target into the included python notebook and see what it outputs. Thanks for watching!

  • @kkk-lw7ox
    @kkk-lw7ox 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much sir

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of course! Thanks for watching!

  • @kkk-lw7ox
    @kkk-lw7ox 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This ADC data is a real signal or complex(I, Q) to range FFT?

    • @kkk-lw7ox
      @kkk-lw7ox 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can u please reply

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For this you need phase information so it would need to be IQ data.

  • @duncanmcallister7932
    @duncanmcallister7932 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You’ve mentioned radars in cars, but what are some other applications of FMCW Radars?

    • @OscarzProductions
      @OscarzProductions หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They are used in radar altimeters and proximity fuses too.

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah Oscar mentioned some, but also factories will use them in tracking assembly lines, they're good for imaging because of the very fine resolution, etc.

    • @walidazerkane9430
      @walidazerkane9430 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For defense purposes like drone detection with phased array antennas

  • @rohi_21
    @rohi_21 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video! Solved the challenge problem and posted the results on LinkedIn. Love the series and would love to contribute if I can to the development of more videos! Keep up the amazing work!

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Super cool! Yeah that problem had a few ways to solve it - I want to do more involved ones in the future! What do you mean by contribute?

  • @anantmishra-h3m
    @anantmishra-h3m หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How does ground penetrating radar work

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely a topic for a later video. I will have to do more research on that as I haven't directly worked on it. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @marotoby
    @marotoby หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah new vid!

  • @zeyadgeorge7960
    @zeyadgeorge7960 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi, I am thinking of building my own FMCW radar, can I DM you for help?

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Feel free to connect with me on linkedin and I'll do what I can! Good luck on your project!

  • @NaifAlqahtani
    @NaifAlqahtani หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Again awesome video but the titles man. They gotta change 😂❤

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      What don't you like? What would you have named this video? Thanks for watching!

    • @NaifAlqahtani
      @NaifAlqahtani หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I dont know what these letters are for. Dont use them.

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NaifAlqahtani what are you talking about?

    • @NaifAlqahtani
      @NaifAlqahtani หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MarshallBrunerRF before watching the video, FMCW makes no sense to me at all and would not make me want to click at all. Look at how 3b1b titles his videos. Its never technical words unless absolutely necessary.

    • @SamAlton
      @SamAlton หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@MarshallBrunerRF I think it's a balance between accuracy and accessibility, and it depends on the intended audience of the video.
      The layperson searching on youtube "how does radar know how fast a thing is moving" isn't gonna know what FMCW stands for (I certainly didn't before watching your videos), and that might turn them away from clicking on it. But maybe the layperson isn't the intended audience for this video. It's extremely well made and communicated, but it's also 17 minutes and has a lot of advanced concepts.
      At the same time, your title is totally accurate, it's about FMCW radar. So if the person searching for this video is interested in specifically FMCW radar, they might be more likely to click - though that's definitely a much smaller fraction of people.

  • @ianhutchinson9751
    @ianhutchinson9751 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video! I’m a software engineer and write applications responsible for tracking radar detections. If you know anything about tracking and are looking for video suggestions I’d be interested in some on that topic for sure 😊

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will definitely make some videos on different tracking techniques! For now, thought, my friend Jon Kraft has a great series on FMCW radar that includes a video on tracking where he implements it on real hardware.

  • @JKTCGMV13
    @JKTCGMV13 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hell yeah

  • @pedrotoledo9070
    @pedrotoledo9070 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why are radars so cool?

    • @MarshallBrunerRF
      @MarshallBrunerRF  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah they're so awesome! So much more to cover too!