I was thinking the whole time, wow this looks like an honest take on just how debilitating bipolar can be. The man’s judgement was just obliterated without the meds.
He aint dead!! Didn't you see the way Jonah looked into the ashes right at the end, as is his father left a note or an item to signify this? Plus what Whyatt said earlier.
I was done with that guy when he came to the house but when he sat in the truck acting like a hype trying to hide the phone I was hoping she had a button to push to just blow it up and keep shopping.
I love how Navarro tells Wendy during their last call, "What do you want from me? For me to throw my arms around you, and hold you close like my blood is your blood? Don't think I owe you anything" and the very last shot is Navarro throwing his arms around them.
He really needs them. He liked and respected Wendy from their first meeting. Marty is a financial genius and no one can do what he does--Del always knew this about Marty. When Navarro kidnapped Marty, he found a resolve in Marty that he appreciated. He needs Wendy's political connects. They are way more valuable than just some lawyer. Plus Helen was trying to manipulate him. That's why Navarro chose Marty and Wendy over Helen in the end.
The actor that played Ben did an amazing job. I literally broke down and cried during the scene of him screaming “no” so many times about going to a mental institution. Also that same part when Wendy is hearing Ben screaming through the police monitor. That literally broke my heart. The scene of him in the Taxi captured perfectly of his mental illness. And the scene of Wendy and Ben eating at the restaurant asking about his future goals/plans was so tragic. This man deserves all the awards and so does Wendy.
@@IvetteBaeza94 it's my favourite show. I didn't even know I was watching the final episode!! I'm waiting for the next one to begin and nothing. Lol. Was not expecting that ending. At all!!
When she found out that her brother called Helen, and had a burner phone and when they stopped and she asked him about it, and the way she got mad at him because of everything that was going on, and it didn't comprehend to him and the way she started going off was epic to me.
Aaron Hopkins that’s a good moment too. She realized that no matter how much she wanted to protect him and the rest of her family. He knew too much and he’s going to keep opening his mouth. It’s too risqué so even though it killed her to do it. Wendy honestly didn’t have a choice. She couldn’t keep running forever.
I think it's interesting how Ruth and Wyatt are always referencing Marty as the man who ruined their life from the moment he came into it, like it had nothing to do with the Langmores stealing Marty's CARTEL MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Darlene did this too. Jacob knew better than to blame Marty for everything that was happening because they agreed to the terms and were enjoying all the benefits. Same goes for that priest guy. No one wants to look at themselves and just admit they made some bad decisions to get in the situation that they are in
I don't think Ruth ever said that. Wyatt says it because as smart as he is he doesn't want to admit that his own dad was a deadbeat. You know wyatt is messed up when he is talking to dead people. Ruth just doesn't want to be around Wendy.
Shahidul Khan Ruth secretly loves Marty and is Jealous of Wendy, plus Ruth hates Wendy because they go head to head like to bobcats fighting for a piece of steak in a cage.
Unpopular opinion: Helen was actually an awesome character. She was by far one of the most terrifying and intimidating people on the show. She was also one of the most interesting and complex characters. She knew similar to the Byrd family what is was like balancing a family, and working for the cartel as a lawyer/assassin. She was ruthless and evil, but also understanding and reasonable- even compassionate. She was also probably going to have Marty, Wendy and the kids killed because of Ben’s colossal fuck ups. I also think her undoing was ultimately because she was so frightened towards the end, and moved too quickly with her last minute attempt to off the threat that was Marty and Wendy. She overestimated her plan and moved too fast. All in all, I thought she was a super badass character. Her being killed off was made clear towards the end of the episode, but I’m sad to see her go. Even if people think she deserved that bullet, she kept our jaws clenched and nails digging into our seats
Ozark doesn't do fake-out deaths. Everyone who was shot, poisoned, thrown off a high rise, electrocuted, head bashed, and cremated aren't coming back. That's not this show's style at all. Helen and Ben are history.
@@ButterCookie1984 Nelson doesn't make mistakes. I have been open to the possibility that Nelson killed the wrong man on purpose. Wendy and Marty believe Ben is dead but Wendy never saw Nelson kill him, Nelson only kidnapped him. And Nelson helped Marty carry the body into the crematorium oven. Marty never peeked inside the sack. I think Navarro instructed Nelson to do this because he made up his mind that he trusted and needed the Byrdes more than he trusted and needed Helen. Maybe Navarro found out about Helen's plan to go to the FBI in order to frame Marty and trick Navarro into murdering the Byrdes so that she could take over Byrde Enterprises free and clear as well as get her revenge for her daughter learning the truth. Season 4 opens on the Lagunas Cartel getting taken down by joint U.S. and Mexican military forces. Meanwhile, back at Navarro's estate the Byrdes and Navarro are inside and then Ben walks in the room. So now Navarro is really no longer a threat because he completely trusts the Byrdes and they helped end the cartel war for him. But there is a new war back in Ozark when the Byrdes face the Snells/Cosgroves, with Ruth stuck in the middle. This is why Ben is so important to Season 4, as a reason for Ruth to return to the Byrdes. And without Ben, Jonah and Charlotte would never trust their parents again. So actually I think Ben is alive. I retract my original comment :) I would also like to add that Tom Pelphrey is a superb actor and it would be a shame to not use him more. He is a loose cannon and a high source of tension. The show needs the tension he adds to the story now that Navarro is no longer a threat to them.
ohroonoko Thats when we learn that FBI agent Maya has been working for the cartel the entire time and she is the one who had the Lawyer Helen killed for trying to set up the Byrdes and take over the biz which she could never have run without Marty’s laundering genius and Wendys Political ability. Plus the Byrdes were all in and willing to do right by the cartel even sacrificing Ben. Ben may be alive and chilling in Mexico as a reward to the Byrdes loyalty, but he may be stone dead, we will see, time will tell.
Exactly, people here shitting out wild theories like this Money Heist kinda trashy show. Well it aint. This is in league of Breaking Bad, Better call saul
One thing about Ben I haven't heard anyone mention is even though he had bipolar and messed up alot, he was the moral center of the show in season 3. His reactions were actually normal for anyone to feel and it's the every one else who's reactions were off. It was a very clever way to get to his demise
Out of context, sure. But the juxtaposition of his reaction and that of the kids shows how out of touch he is with HIS reality and the reality he joined with the Byrds. The lack of situational awareness and common sense progressively get worse and worse.
His whole demeanour and actions this season were synopsized with his opening scene of episode 2. He was a warrior for the moral high ground, but impulsive and erratic.
Yeah I agree. She knows and is grateful for how much belief Marty had in her. I do think though that Marty not getting revenge for her beating did hurt her though. But I like to think that Marty would have eventually done something, in his own long game style.
For me, when she said "not money" then went ahead and accepted it,,,that's when i knew that old bitch was up for no good, that's how greedy people behave, if yoi was to take the money at a go take it.
@Andy Bennett Watch him acting in and directing in HBO’s “The Outsider,” based on a Stephen King novel of the same name. Good show with an international, powerhouse cast.
Huge Jason Bateman fan. Couldn't agree more! @Andy Agreed! I want to see a recap of that show as well! Very dark, disturbing and eerie! I was let down by the final episode though. Felt anticlimactic to me.
Shes the best, shes go those one liners that cut deep. I felt for her, Wendy could have her bro killed but not the Frank Jr who beat her up, I hate how they never stood up for by dealing with him..
Damn, Ben crossed the line going to Helen's home. There was no way he could live after doing that in front of her daughter. I really liked his character.
Visionary I know and I felt terrible watching that, but another perspective, if they hadn’t given him up they and their kids may have had to pay the price. Would you really sacrifice your life and that of your kids for a brother who’s hell bent on getting himself killed?
One of the things that truly annoys me about Marty is his lack of emotions towards Ruth. You can see how hard Ruth tries to get some sort of validation from him but always gets shut down. 😕
Chelsea Windsor I think that moment his dad dies and Marty doesn’t really react even while he was in the hospital shows who Marty is , he doesn’t react to most things he’s always calculating that’s why Navarro asked him what do you want
aztecnano1 I fucking died when she starts talking to Marty and goes “that hit, was that us??” Something about this old lady pulling up in a mclaren acting like a cartel member had me dying
One of the most important aspects of Wendy betraying Ben is that after promising to not talk to Helen, he went ahead and bought a new cell phone. To me, that sealed his fate.
I was pissed at Ben too for that but who knows maybe he was going to try and call Ruth. Probably unlikely but maybe that’s one of the things going through Wendy’s head when she’s devastated after the ordeal.
@@zainash3320 nah he was trying to make it all right with Helene. He wouldn't shut up about it after everything happened and btw, how many times did he even call Ruth at all while on the run? But the idea of selling out your mentally ill brother to save your family is one tough decision and the scene during her breakdown and depression was raw and captivating. But shit so was Ben's in the taxi. Fuck give them all awards. Even the dude who got his ass beat in the bar by Ben
At that point, I TRULY felt Wendy's pain in dealing with her brother. When her tears started falling as she was talking to the cashier bc she was coming to the realization of what she had to do. Their dynamic was super painful to watch...from having him committed to having him killed. 😢🥺😢
What if he wasn’t actually killed? We never saw the body unwrapped. What it the Wendy made some kind of a deal, or paid off the guy to act like he killed him
I dare to say that "the final supper" scene was beautiful. Sad. Haunting. In my opinion it was the best scene of the series. Wendy killed it. (And her brother)
Such a great scene tho. The music. How they intertwined Wendy’s call with Marty and Nelson showing up. That was one of the best scenes of television I’ve ever seen.
oh that character has evolved constantly and strong, also the actor will be more mature / grown for S4. So as for S3 finale, Jonah will (need to) have a more powerful role in that story
Yeahh right charlotte and jonah really underrated, charlotte now mature enough to know whats going on, she holds so many secrets, and stays to keep it cool, in the other hand jonah is on his transition phase between accept the reality and wants to be free, but he become a badass cuz of ben, but he's still young and starts to questioning his family's morality
@@emilyholmstrom6616 yes, Jonah became a bad ass because of Buddy. Buddy taught him to shoot and taught him truth in living - something he wasn't getting at home. He was also his first friend.
I think they developed Darlene alot this season she seemed to move more off her temporary emotions...This season she seemed to move more off manipulation and strategy to achieve her goals
I dont think Darlene's character developed any differently other than she no longer has an equal partner. She grows heroine and cant stand outsiders on her land. This is Darlene from season 1 to infinity and beyond.
@@aaronbrutus2654 I don't think so. Because in season 1 Darlene is what you portrayed, she hates outsiders messing with their business. Howerver in this season you can clearly see darlene saw an oppening with Wyatt from the lagmores and the development that came from that. She knew Wyatt, hating Ruth, would be a gateway to explore the dynamics between ruth and the Byrds which, as everyone saw, resulted in Ruth joining Darlene in the end. You can see the shift in power when Darlene admits to killing his husband right after Wyatt tells her that Ruth killed his father and uncle. Instead of Darlene being pissed she saw the opportunity to guide them towards a common enemey...the byrds. You also have the consider that the Frank Sr was well aware of the problems his son was causing. I actually liked Darlene's action there and to me it was a good moment for the show. This season was by far the best one, I'm really liking the direction and development most characters are having and I hope that they can build upon this for season 4 even though, to me there isn't alot more material to go from here (the ending on this season even though it's a cliffhanger, it was a kinda closed ending). I hope they end the show next season or the season after that so it doesn't feel too dragged out.
To an extent, but we saw in her eyes a sad look every time Marty has failed to show her any attention or compassion. In the end, it was cumulative in her decision to leave.
She's going to end up back on the Byrds because Wyatt is going to date Charlotte and DARLENE will finally get smoked by Nelson and the bryds will live on the Snells land.
Marty is always paying for Wendy's mistakes. He knows that he can't trust her, and for that, had to tap her phone, which led to his little trip to Mexico. Marty is trying to keep his family alive, and Wendy is out doing her own thing, making more work for Marty. Wendy never gets her hands dirty, never gets involved in the day-to-day grind to keep the ship steaming forward.
Completely agree. Marty is trying to stay under the radar, doing just what needed to be done. Wendy on the other hand had a power trip, which will cost them dearly.
She’s trying to out do her husband and looks at him as her competition. She mentions it a lot in season 3 on how she thinks he’s jealous of her, but actually the opposite is true. She knows deep down that this whole thing is her fault from the very beginning. If she didn’t cheat on her husband none of this would of happened. I hate Wendy hope Ruth gets her revenge on her.
I’m assuming the whole point of that was to show that the only way you can win is to keep playing, like he said as a kid “the game is rigged, the only way you can win is by putting in more quarters”. Which motivated him to agree to the expansion deal afterwards, because he knew the only way he was gonna win (survive) was to keep playing the game and to keep the money funneling to the cartel. He says later on, “our security is tied to Navarros security, if he has a secure future, so do we”
I noticed the 2nd season ( especially the finale) originally set up for several plot lines in the 3rd season that the writers just dropped and kind of expected everyone to just..forget? Because I think they realized the bombing combined with agent peddy murder would have the entire area crawling with ATF and FBI rather than just the casino being focused on by one unit, the amount of heat on Marty would make him so much of a liability he’d be done for. So the writers were like yea that just .. Um .. didn’t happen but look casino and a few FBI agents ! Scaarryyy. Rachel and tuck who? Look Nelson talks now!! Wyatt supposedly hit the road and made it about as far as the grocery store but look he’s with Darlene ! Ew! Writers room -“That’s weird and distracting enough right guys?” “ oh yea we’re good” “ oh yea and throw in the Um bipolar brother we need some cannon fodder “ “ genius” “ add a therapist or something too”
Surely Netflix would pick Ozark back up after the Emmy nominations and wins the last couple of years! Julia Garner winning best supporting actress and Jason Bateman winning best directing
I agree that the Emmys should make the difference. In general it doesn't seem like Netflix likes to produce longer series anymore, but they do like to win awards.
The creators of the show have said they want to do 5 seasons. They said they could do 7 but 5 seems like a good ending point for the show. So I think we will def get 5 seasons at least.
Jason Bateman is on helluva a actor and doesn’t get the credit he deserves he has the best timing of any actor except for maybe Leo , Jason is so believable in anything he does 👍👍
Exactly. He's a master at the nuanced response and reactions. The scene when Navarro asked him 'what does he want?'.... Marty gives it a good 10 to 15 seconds to acknowledge, evaluate and reply with a simple 'I don't understand the question'. It was so subtle but utterly natural
Yeah, but you failed to mention the key - the end of season 2 established "the women", but season 3 was the restoration of balance in reestablishing Marty as the prime mover, when Wendy admits Marty was right to try to run. Wendy and Helen could not run things without Marty, and Helen's demise cements that. This show is about money laundering, and the brain behind that - make no mistake - is Marty.
I’m also happy they gave some relevance back to Marty this season, however I think Wendy was definitely correct in the fact that there’s no way they could have run. They would already have been dead by now if they chose to IMO. Wendy made a lot of big moves this season which I honestly feel would have contributed to their safety overall, had Marty and her not been at odds. That being said she definitely got overly confident about her relationship with Navarro, you can’t be friends with a drug lord lol.
@@Whorecultist Given the war with the other cartel, I'm not so sure Navarro would have had the resources, attention, or available skilled team members to bother chasing after the Byrds. So, no, I don't agree that it is a fact they could not have run. Besdies, Wendy's push to acquire that second casino, against Marty's judgment, screwed things up royally for everyone. Think about it - it's the 2nd casino that brought Helen to move into town; that's what put Helen and Ben on a collision course; that's what had Helen thinking about removing Marty; that's what got the Kansas City mobster's idiot son more invovled, which created conflict for Ruth...and on, and on...at the end of the day, Marty rescued his family, yet again, all the while having to fight with Wendy to do it which, come to think of it, was how it was way back in Chicago when she was emptying out their bank accounts and gaining the attention of Del, who offered to just kill her, and it was Marty who saved her life there, again - sheesh, imagine if she'd just stay on page with him!
@@dgaubin I disagree that all of that falls on Wendy. The mobster's son was a jackass, and I don't think them buying the second casino really effected the path that he was on. Don't forget, Marty is the one that brought the feds down on them with his attempt to sabotage Wendy, which is why Helen got so heavily involved in the first place. Wendy is also the one that told Ruth about Ben, she warned everyone about him. Ruth is just as if not more guilty for Ben's death than Wendy is. She watched him have his massive episode and still asked Darlene to get him out. I won't disagree that Wendy has made some mistakes, but Marty has played an equal part in the mess.
@@Whorecultist Marty didn't bring the feds in. Buying the second casino did, and that's on Wendy. Bottom line, it's about money laundering. Marty's good with money, Wendy didn't just learn it by osmosis. She's out of her league and she admitted it.
@@PetePeppers1 Haha yeah. Just finished about 20 minutes before my post. Im curious to see Three's involvement in season 4. He still doesn't know anything, right?
It was really sad when we saw Ben outside that restaurant and Wendy crying in her van I thought she was leaving him to find his own way in life but... then we find out she actually made the phone call to have him killed it’s like you wanted to be part of the show at that moment and just yell at Wendy... It’s just a Tv series tho lmao that’s how you know it’s a great series tho can’t wait for season 4!!!!
Fresh gaming damn really? I saw it coming once she saw him buy the phone. She already made their reality abundantly clear to ben and he just kept digging his own grave. And once she asked him what he pictured in 5 years i knew for sure that was it!
MrBananaSamich I thought exactly the same thing. When she saw him buy the phone, we all knew. She understood right there that he would never stop being a liability and she treated him that way. I gotta say I felt like tearing up when she asked him where he wanted to be in 5 years... She wanted his last moment to be a good, hopeful one.
I didn’t feel bad for Ben at that point. I felt bad for Wendy. If they had kept Ben alive he would have just kept coming back to them and kept being a massive liability. Like Marty told him, the margin for error for their family is practically nonexistent. One mistake might be forgivable, but if you keep making mistakes it’s going to cost you your life.
The actor who played Ben, Tom Pelphrey absolutely should get an Emmy nomination for his work on Ozark. Brilliant portal. I remember him from the soap opera The Guiding Light where he won 2 daytime Emmys for his work on that show!
The actor portraying Ben was incredible, specially in the taxi scene. Helen was by far the best and most interesting character this entire season and in general. Evil, powerful, and an assassin but understanding and quite human at times as well. Amazing, same goes to Ruth’s actress
@@KirbyPuckettrocks34 she's gonna get killed too, if one gets it, the whole family gets it. Remember Del was going to kill Marty's family in the season 1 opening..
@@johndoe-ii1ko wrong he just want to kill wendy because wendy knew evething he also said wheres the kids i dont want them to to witness her assasination
I was also very impressed about the Hip-Hop selections they used in certain scenes REAL HIP-HOP true school to the core! Rakim, Wu-Tang Clan who ever chose the music selections MASTERFUL selections blended well especially showing the character of RUTH who seem to really enjoy true school HIP-HOP!
Ben's death was heartbreaking. Helen got what she deserved, however, I was not expecting that ending. It will be a very long wait for S4. The actor that played Ben was amazing.
@@Routine4 he's dead mate. They didn't show him dying because they thought it would be more powerful showing it from Laura Linneys perspective and her heartbreaking reaction in the car
Couple of points: the actor that plays Ben displayed great emotional range in his character. Phenomenal work. The way many of the scenes were shot (accounting for continuity in the scene and creating tension and character contrast) was amazing. Season 3 was much much better than season two. Well done
I was truly impressed by him, he made Ben lovable, vulnerable but yet a little scary at times. He conveyed every layer of that character phenomenally. At the end you were just so heart broken by his poor choices because you knew he came from a good place and he had almost a childish innocence (the scene when Wendy kisses him in the forehead, so sweet). I really wanted Wendy to turn around that night. Give the guy a golden globe already!
When Ben was in the taxi, I thought through the entire scene that the driver was the hit man. I think they did that on purpose with the driver's silence. And Ben's monologue. WOW. What a scene!
I agree but Wendy is basically a manipulaitve Bitch, whereas Ruth has been constantly shat on her entire life. Remember she's only a few years older than CHarlotte.
Even on helens death, I don't believe that her kids would be killed. The reason why because she's a lawyer she knew better and if she knew maybe going to Mexico was probably going to be her last trip she could of set up something for them if she goes missing. Also Ben pissed me off, he fucked up, couldn't keep it shut.
She didn’t expect to be killed, remember she had asked the hitman to give her a heads up when it’s her time? I’m thinking Omar had a whole connect and inform him of what Helen was planning, her greed got a hold of her and thus she flew too close to the sun
She didn’t think she was going to die. She clearly thought Wendy and Marty were going to be the ones who were killed. That’s why she said to Ruth, “would you work for me if the byrds were out of the picture?”
@@xaviermdc5256 I don't think the Hitman or Navarro knew about the FBI paperwork Helen had. I think Wendy inadvertently put a hit on Helen when she told Navarro to not include Helen in the Casino.
Guys can we PLEASE take a minute to realise that there are no words to explain how good this serie is, especially the last season. Only time and feelings can describe this serie, I have watched many series and this is one of the best along with breaking bad. It really felt for me like I lived by those lakes in Ozark. Just the atmosphere while watching this, just incredible. I would really gave some flowers to the makers of this serie because this was just insanely good.
Agreed, this series might be better than the first which I adored, (something about outsiders moving to the middle of nowhere and coming into contact with a cast of bizarre characters is always a good model for a story ) I was initially slow to start watching because season 2 was SUCH a let down, I thought it’s continued demise was inevitable but I was SO wrong. And I’m so glad about it. The writing, acting and direction was second to none. I love this show. I hope filming for the next one doesn’t get delayed too much....
Agent Maya works with the Narvarro cartel and has been the whole time. Which is why she turns down every case Marty hands her and is so stubborn on trying to get Marty this insane deal. All to see if he's loyal. She probably ordered the kidnapping of Marty and flagged the account to see just how loyal he is. Then of course the last epsiode, she calls Marty to confirm he wasn't the one who signed the false confession. She then knows the truth and tells Narvarro. Hence why Hellen is killed. Agent Maya is the real girlfriend of Narvarro and the baby daddy is, you guessed it, Narvarro. Just kidding. Just a theory of course. Does it actually make sense though? I feel like it either does 100%, or doesn't at all haha.
Actually, I think this makes a whole lot of sense. (Of course, I don't know if that's what the producers/writers have in mind, but I think this is a tremendous guess. After all, they are REALLY playing up Maya's integrity. And, would be just like them to surprise everyone with just how deeply crooked she is in real life -- topping even Mary and Wendy for "appearances" of being legit, while being as crooked as anyone else. Well done!!
The thought of her being in Narvarros pocket and testing the Byrds loyalty did cross my mind. Your comment has now cemented that in my mind! Can't wait for season 4 to see if this is the case!
They have the actress's face heavily made up to be ... well ... Darlene - she's gorgeous in real life. But you can't fake the body - amazingly hot for someone her age.
I hated Darlene in the beginning but she’s really grown on me. She’s dark, twisted, sick, ruthless, and vengeful. She’s definitely a strong villain that does an amazing job building up the Byrd family (the heroes).
Darlene and Wyatt grossed me out. But Ruth and Wyatt still cares about each other.and their conversations are funny. When Wyatt met Ben in her home : 'Isn't he too old for you?' Then remembered his own lover, the grandma Darlene. In the other scene, Ruth asked Wyatt: 'How is Darlene?' Wyatt said, "She's fine! She wants me to meet her mother!' Omfg, 😂
Ruth is fantastic. They all are great and play their parts well. I don't understand how Marty wouldn't be completely grey haired by now. Wendy pisses me off sometimes but my god, Laura Linney just kills it playing her! So good.
Definitely thought season 3 was solid. Ben's story was rough, and Ruth's decision at the end will make for an interesting dynamic in season 4. Let me know what you think.
@@Bigcell33 that's why my heart crush when he died he makes you believe that he was mentally ill for real that's why I was soo mad at Helen glad that she died
Pete Peppers I hate that there only 10 episodes long .. now we gotta wait who knows how long for the next season... I really hope Jonah didn’t shoot anyone
A few things: First, the actor who played Ben deserves and Emmy and Golden Globe for his portrayal. That was some of the best acting I've seen on television in a long time. Like when he was in the State hospital crying to Ruth.. Damn near teared me up. The emotion was real. Second, although I saw Ben's death coming by Wendy it was still heartbreaking and shocking to see. I thought Wendy was going to pull the trigger herself though, which would have been very heartbreaking. Did anyone else get a Of Mice and Men vibe? A Lenny and George between Wendy and Ben? Ben was Lenny and Wendy was George. Ben not being able to help himself, trying to do right in his own mind but only making things worse just like Lenny? Then during their dinner when Wendy asked him where he envisioned himself in five years, that reminded me of George telling Lenny to explain the farm they were going to live on. Great scene, powerful scene, even if it was a little predictable. But still very powerful. Third, I also saw Helen's death coming, but just like the above example, it was still shocking despite somewhat predictable. Overall I was impressed with the season. It started slow, and I didn't like the back and forth between Wendy and Marty. I understand it was important but I'm glad they didn't have it like that the whole season. But it really picked up half ways through. Charlotte's acting was pretty good. The actor who plays Jonah still needs work. And the actress who played Erin definitely needed work. But they're kids, so it's understandable. Just my thoughts
OF MICE AND MEN Wendys brother death and the leading of his death reminds me of Lenny from "of mice and men". a mentally disturb person who can't keep out of trouble and just cause too much trouble then he's worth. The scene when Wendy ask her brother what he wants in 5 years is just like the scene when Lenny talk about a house where he can raise all the bunnies.
Good analogy! Only difference his brother did the deed himself. Wendy pussed out. I can’t believe she trusted a hitman to take care of it.... he could’ve tortured her brother she didn’t know. The poor guy had to die knowing that his sister betrayed him.... He probably didn’t even fully understand why because he was mentally ill poor guy. 😭
I’m sorry but I blame Ben’s death on him and Ruth. Wendy begged Ruth to help him get back on his meds. Then she gets him released from the place where he needed help and his first stop was Helen’s house. She should’ve never gotten him out. She should’ve listened to Wendy from the beginning. Now he’s dead!
Exactly she thinks she’s the innocent victim. How quickly she forgot where she started and where she ended up because Marty truly did care about her. Ben was a problem she & Wendy fed and are at fault for where Marty can truly be looked at as clean in that situation.
I think it's such an accurate portrayl of the criminal mind, nothing is ever their own fault, they never take responsibility, they always blame someone else.
@@somewherehere424 Yep! I was thinking that might happen too and thus making the Byrds wanting to rekindle relations with her since wendy seems to want a new baby around.
The scene when Nelson shot Helen in the head was a real shock to the system. And seeing the Byrds covered in her brains was pretty gross. My wife and I salivate for season 4.
The underrated arc in this season was the Wendy and Helen duo. Helen was supposed to be an overseer of the operation an ended up becoming friends with Wendy. So much so that she had dinner with them, and let them meet her daughter. Wendy helped Helen find a place, and they both discussed their marriage issues. She also helped Wendy with the idea of making Navarro legitimate money. Helen at this moment became vulnerable, she became more of a person than a boss. After a while, Helen noticed that Wendy was gaining a little too much clout for her comfort. Wendy was getting away with criticizing Navarro, not answering her phone for him, and calling him at her leisure. Once their children were detained by the Sheriff, that put a strain on their relationship. And Helen turned back into the ruthless Helen we all know. And Helen set in motion to uproot the Byrdes because of their liability issues.
Great onservation bro! I saw that Eventually she became annoyed and like eff this im taking the reigns. But the byrdes always come through with a master plan lol
Helen made the mistake of involving her daughter. Helen's juxtapoistion of being evil and a caring mom, who had her child's daughter assaulted but wanted to shield her from a world of crime is really telling. Her character was bottle of contradiction waiting to explode. Her demise was sudden and unexpected but she thought she was untouchable, except for a little waterboarding, here and there.
I can't remember the last time that I cried watching a movie or tv show but Ben got me. That scene where he was begging not to be committed and yelling for Wendy. OMG...that was some powerful acting. Way too real.
I wasn't a fan of the writing. They guy was just convenient fodder - make us somewhat care about a lesser character so they could kill him off. Saw it coming a mile away.
It's honestly like you guys would do the same shit as these pathetic parents dipected in the show. Everyone needs to face up to their actions. These are the type of people who can't even be concidered "Americans" who the hell takes orders from down the border
I thought his character was great, well acted and the writers were able to make us feel for him, even though he did cause enormous amounts of issues that were ultimately his fault I still rooted for him
During the scene where Helen is talking about essentially taking over the casino business, you can here a fly buzz. That made me pay close attention to what they were saying because I couldn't shake the thought that the fly was edited in to make us think of death. Helen's death. If you were not wearing headphones though, that probably was a boring scene.
Laura Linney once again showed why she is one of Hollywoods best actresses. Her performances are often so understated that when she finally has an outburst you are wondering where it came from. It is then you find yourself saying that she has been carrying this thing all along. Her breakdown in the minivan over her brother will or at least should win her another nomination. Her pain was raw and hard to watch. Cant wait for season 4
Helen sealed her faith when she overstep her boundary. She tried to take too much control. Marty and Wendy created the foundation and Helen just wanted to jump in and take over. Helen job was to be carrvarro eyes and ears and not make all decisions.
Last scene missin idk if I am wrong not only did Helen hate how much Marty and Wendy were able to get away with ( Erin hanging out with those boys and blaming Wendy, Wendy being able to talk to nararvo more then usually, actually jealous of Wendy and Marty kids of how they are comfortable with their lifestyle and how erin is) She straight up just saw the byrdes overwelcomed their stay she want stay up front with narvaro.
@@hakeemsesay15 helen is threathen by marty and wendy. Narvarro needs them more. Whats nore important is that narvarro is beginning to trudt them even more. By killing helen he acomplish many things. 1. That he has them for good. Wendy agreeing to kill his brother shows that. 2.killing helen lets marty knows that no matter how valuable u They are ,they can always be replace. Plus helen thinks she is untouchable and narrvarro shows that no one is untouchable.
I think Helen felt threatened that Wendy would take her place. She saw how Navarro let Wendy get away with criticizing him, not answering the phone, and calling him whenever she wants. Helen was placed there as the overseer and slowly but surely, she became a partner/friend with the Byrdes. After their children got detained by the police, that put a strain on Helen and Wendy's relationship. And Helen began to recognize what was happening.
@@iantru9929 Helen was getting waterboarded in the first episode. Navarro already didn't trust her. Then, she started getting jealous, to the eventual point of fabricating a confession to get the whole Byrde family killed. She got greedy.
Episode 9 will be the Emmy winner. Ben's acting, along with the direction and editing of that opening scene........ easily the best moment of the entire series, let alone the season.
EPISODE 6 had a remarkable opening scene when Marty and Wendy blew up at each other in front of the shrink. Those two were my favorite opens of the season
Ben is Alive: Navarro will use him as a leverage to the Byrde family in the future seasons. We know that Nelson (the hitman) is only loyal to Navarro, by killing Helen.
To me was the best and my favorite part was see Wendy in the car crying desperately lost because of her brother, her pain was so deep, it make me cry,amazing performance
When she was asking him where can I take u? It was over for him. Hopefully Jonah doesn’t end up hating his mom. He’s so proud of her. The way he looks at her with a smile.
Also, Wndy and Marty did stand up for Ruth; they just didn't stand up for her in the way Ruth wanted. Darlene had a different bargaining chip to offer Frank Sr. that Wendy and Mark didn't.
I agree. I think Marty somehow got Ben out. He knew Wendy would be devastated thinking she had Ben killed, which would then allow him to take the reins again (for awhile) without Wendy working against him. Marty still has a master plan to get the family out of the cartel and away to freedom and safety. Marty will always be the smartest guy in the room.
**SPOILER ALERT** Ben was released from the hospital and went straight to expose Helen to her child, which is what got the Cartel to go after him. It wasn't him going to the casino which put him on their radar, it was because he pissed off Helen personally. And I feel that Helen was killed not because Navarro chose the Byrdes over her, but because he noticed that Helen started working in the interest of herself, whereas the Byrdes were working in the interest of him. For example, Wendy got her own brother killed for Navarro, which was for his betterment, whereas for Helen that was a personal victory. Helen's plan to get rid of the Byrdes was full of holes. It made absolutely no sense for Marty to confess to the FBI after Wendy had her brother killed for Navarro - surely he would have turned before that. Plus to have Helen of all people represent him when testifying against Navarro was plain stupid, Navarro would know that Marty is smarter than that. Helen was an incredible lawyer so she still had value and Navarro could have sat both parties down and told them to stop their fighting. But it became clear to him that Helen's plays were simply to discredit the Byrdes rather than to help the Cartel. Navarro mentioned to Wendy that it's not a partnership and he is only using them. I think in Helen's case Navarro noticed that Helen started to use him (to gain the casinos and hotels for more money in her pocket). That's why she was eliminated.
I agree about Helen's plan to get rid of the Byrds was vindictive and ill-planned, however, I do not believe Navarro chose the Byrds over Helen because she was working for own self-interest, rather I feel that Navarro truly saw how much more of the Byrds were able to help Navarro, and how Helen and her personal vindictive nature put that at risk. The birds simply had more to give to Navarro than Helen ever had. Marty is far smarter than anyone else when it comes to laundering money so he is a clear asset, while Wendy is clearly smart and is ambitious. Moreover, we know Navarro saw the two plans ahead of him, one where the Byrds ended the war, and one where Helen ended the Byrds. Clearly, he just chose the better option for himself and got rid of Helen because he knew her ill-will and crappy plan would cost him.
@@conorv11 I feel like you're saying the same think I am, just in a different way. Aren't Helen's ill-will and personal vindictive nature large components of her own self-interest? If they weren't, Navarro could have kept Helen in the picture, promoted the Byrds and told Helen to play happy family. After all, her personal hitman Frank works for Navarro, not her, so even Helen wouldn't have been able to touch the Byrds.
Yeah, going to the casino put him back on the radar after Ruth successfully hid him at the Snell farm. He went straight to see Helen and he was never going to be able to fix that, but might have been able to hide out. Helen's plan was that Navarro would kill the Byrdes when she showed him the confession. I don't think she ever intended to have to see it through in the US because Marty and Wendy would have disappeared.
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Ben's death was heartbreaking, I found his taxi speech a really raw portrayal of his illness.
The taxi ride had an authenticity to it. Devastating journey for the character and the family.
@@PetePeppers1 exactly
I was thinking the whole time, wow this looks like an honest take on just how debilitating bipolar can be. The man’s judgement was just obliterated without the meds.
Alice Hargest I agree. Also great acting.
He aint dead!! Didn't you see the way Jonah looked into the ashes right at the end, as is his father left a note or an item to signify this? Plus what Whyatt said earlier.
You guys remember when Helen told Frank the hitman that if her day ever came, to let her know. Guess he missed the memo 😅
He walks off screen to the left just before she is shot from that direction. He got the memo he just didn't pass the message on.
@High Commander Squealer yes, Nelson
CarlosChip Morales 😂😭💀
Facts 😂
Helen didnt deserve the heads up she got what she deserved the snake
The episode of Ben’s mental breakdown was soo hard for me. His acting was fucking brilliant!!
Jessica Bush man!!!! Excellent!!!!
I was done with that guy when he came to the house but when he sat in the truck acting like a hype trying to hide the phone I was hoping she had a button to push to just blow it up and keep shopping.
Jay Alston exactly at that point he was asking to be killed.
You said it sister
I swear.. the casting in this show is excellent.
I wished this actor could stay in the story..
I love how Navarro tells Wendy during their last call, "What do you want from me? For me to throw my arms around you, and hold you close like my blood is your blood? Don't think I owe you anything" and the very last shot is Navarro throwing his arms around them.
He really needs them. He liked and respected Wendy from their first meeting. Marty is a financial genius and no one can do what he does--Del always knew this about Marty. When Navarro kidnapped Marty, he found a resolve in Marty that he appreciated. He needs Wendy's political connects. They are way more valuable than just some lawyer. Plus Helen was trying to manipulate him. That's why Navarro chose Marty and Wendy over Helen in the end.
My Navarro's favorite line was 《I DON'T trust you, I trust my opinion of you》
@@Salim-nu7ok sorry I'm slow, can u elaborate what he means by that?
skrface13 what he thinks of you and what you can do is more important to him than the person you may actually be he sees potential
@@Salim-nu7ok brilliant line
A moment of silence for that McLaren...
Matilde Pistachio saddest thing on the show yet.
I knew she was dead right then and there.
🤣🤣🤣 I know they should of made her return it and take back the cash of her I hated her after she was trying to blackmail the byrde family
Please show me where the line is to buy a McClaren for 100k.
CY Leung you can rent one for a couple of thousands a month
Anyone else a little depressed cus we gotta wait about a year for season 4
Probably longer because of the Kung Flu has Netflix filming shut down
definitely more, we've waited around 19 months for this season, plus now who knows when they'll be able to start filming again.
🙋🏾♀️
waited over 2 years fr season 3, nailed all episodes in 2 day. Unbelievable
This happens for every tv show
The actor that played Ben did an amazing job. I literally broke down and cried during the scene of him screaming “no” so many times about going to a mental institution. Also that same part when Wendy is hearing Ben screaming through the police monitor. That literally broke my heart. The scene of him in the Taxi captured perfectly of his mental illness. And the scene of Wendy and Ben eating at the restaurant asking about his future goals/plans was so tragic. This man deserves all the awards and so does Wendy.
Ben's death got me. The tears were fast and furious. Give Tom all the awards right now!
thch3174 I couldn’t agree more. 😊
@@IvetteBaeza94 it's my favourite show. I didn't even know I was watching the final episode!! I'm waiting for the next one to begin and nothing. Lol. Was not expecting that ending. At all!!
When she found out that her brother called Helen, and had a burner phone and when they stopped and she asked him about it, and the way she got mad at him because of everything that was going on, and it didn't comprehend to him and the way she started going off was epic to me.
Aaron Hopkins that’s a good moment too. She realized that no matter how much she wanted to protect him and the rest of her family. He knew too much and he’s going to keep opening his mouth. It’s too risqué so even though it killed her to do it. Wendy honestly didn’t have a choice. She couldn’t keep running forever.
Darlene is probably the most gangster character on the show ..she sick, evil and twisted af and really never showed fear once the whole time
When she blasted ol' dude in season 2 for disrespecting her house. I was like wtf she do that for?
Frankie Russell man! She’s so wicked it’s crazy.. always one step ahead, kills her husband acts like it’s just another day at the office
Con10der Regime Boxing she always has her reasons tho
That can get you killed fast tho. Thinking without reason
Very definition of 'sociopath'; more so than Jacob, in my opinion.
Had to watch helen's scene twice... I was literally not expecting that
Was obvious to me who the drug lord was better off with, I just didn't expect it that soon after their arrival.
me too
I wonder if they gonna come after her daughter too. I mean she knows too much right ?
Same here
I jumped off the couch with joy!!!🤣
As soon as Marty and wendy went off the rails in the counseling session and blurted out basically everything I knew she was dead, gabagool.
Right I was thinking the same thing like “do criminals actually tell their crimes to their counselors/therapists”
Gabagool ovaaaa heaaaa!!!
son of you Don’t eat gabagool son of you, it’s all fat and nitrates.
@@DavionSeenit Career criminals don't have therapists.
@@DavionSeenit right in the shinebox
Ruth is the best part of the show, I agree. She deserves an award just for turning swearing into an art form.
I like her she just say things stright with no arounds or lies just direct and truth
Her dialogue consists of mostly one adjective: F.......... You'd never know she Jewish, wouldja?
Charles Lozada what does being Jewish have to do with it?
She Got the Emmy! And Julia deserved it! 🏆
I love ruth
I think it's interesting how Ruth and Wyatt are always referencing Marty as the man who ruined their life from the moment he came into it, like it had nothing to do with the Langmores stealing Marty's CARTEL MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Exactly lol
Darlene did this too. Jacob knew better than to blame Marty for everything that was happening because they agreed to the terms and were enjoying all the benefits. Same goes for that priest guy. No one wants to look at themselves and just admit they made some bad decisions to get in the situation that they are in
I don't think Ruth ever said that. Wyatt says it because as smart as he is he doesn't want to admit that his own dad was a deadbeat. You know wyatt is messed up when he is talking to dead people. Ruth just doesn't want to be around Wendy.
Shahidul Khan Ruth secretly loves Marty and is Jealous of Wendy, plus Ruth hates Wendy because they go head to head like to bobcats fighting for a piece of steak in a cage.
Right? 😂
Unpopular opinion: Helen was actually an awesome character. She was by far one of the most terrifying and intimidating people on the show. She was also one of the most interesting and complex characters. She knew similar to the Byrd family what is was like balancing a family, and working for the cartel as a lawyer/assassin. She was ruthless and evil, but also understanding and reasonable- even compassionate. She was also probably going to have Marty, Wendy and the kids killed because of Ben’s colossal fuck ups. I also think her undoing was ultimately because she was so frightened towards the end, and moved too quickly with her last minute attempt to off the threat that was Marty and Wendy. She overestimated her plan and moved too fast. All in all, I thought she was a super badass character. Her being killed off was made clear towards the end of the episode, but I’m sad to see her go. Even if people think she deserved that bullet, she kept our jaws clenched and nails digging into our seats
I totally agree. Helen was the best character. Captivating in every scene.
Life as we know it I agree on that bro , that’s why I like ozark it showed u the money/ corporate side of the cartel . Which u don’t normally see .
Thank you, I felt the same way, I loved Helen
Helen had a great line this season too -- "We dipped our toes in the pool of friendship, but i don't think we're going swimming"
Yeah I liked Helen
The acting in this series is some of the best acting I have EVER seen... Everyone deserves all the awards 😂
edwin hamilton for real!
They picked the best cast I have ever seen in any series
facts this show is the best i’ve ever seen on Netflix
Everyone apart from Helen's kid.
Yesss🙌🙌🙌 hands down.. The Script, the writing, the way its shot.. everything is just So Good
Ozark doesn't do fake-out deaths. Everyone who was shot, poisoned, thrown off a high rise, electrocuted, head bashed, and cremated aren't coming back. That's not this show's style at all. Helen and Ben are history.
I want to believe that Ben is really not dead, the Nelson killed the wrong man
@@ButterCookie1984 Nelson doesn't make mistakes. I have been open to the possibility that Nelson killed the wrong man on purpose. Wendy and Marty believe Ben is dead but Wendy never saw Nelson kill him, Nelson only kidnapped him. And Nelson helped Marty carry the body into the crematorium oven. Marty never peeked inside the sack. I think Navarro instructed Nelson to do this because he made up his mind that he trusted and needed the Byrdes more than he trusted and needed Helen. Maybe Navarro found out about Helen's plan to go to the FBI in order to frame Marty and trick Navarro into murdering the Byrdes so that she could take over Byrde Enterprises free and clear as well as get her revenge for her daughter learning the truth. Season 4 opens on the Lagunas Cartel getting taken down by joint U.S. and Mexican military forces. Meanwhile, back at Navarro's estate the Byrdes and Navarro are inside and then Ben walks in the room. So now Navarro is really no longer a threat because he completely trusts the Byrdes and they helped end the cartel war for him. But there is a new war back in Ozark when the Byrdes face the Snells/Cosgroves, with Ruth stuck in the middle. This is why Ben is so important to Season 4, as a reason for Ruth to return to the Byrdes. And without Ben, Jonah and Charlotte would never trust their parents again. So actually I think Ben is alive. I retract my original comment :)
I would also like to add that Tom Pelphrey is a superb actor and it would be a shame to not use him more. He is a loose cannon and a high source of tension. The show needs the tension he adds to the story now that Navarro is no longer a threat to them.
True, although sometimes the characters get to come back as "ghosts." I'm hoping Ben will be one of those :)
ohroonoko Thats when we learn that FBI agent Maya has been working for the cartel the entire time and she is the one who had the Lawyer Helen killed for trying to set up the Byrdes
and take over the biz which she could never have run without Marty’s laundering genius and Wendys Political ability. Plus the Byrdes were all in and willing to do right by the cartel even sacrificing Ben. Ben may be alive and chilling in Mexico as a reward to the Byrdes loyalty, but he may be stone dead, we will see, time will tell.
Exactly, people here shitting out wild theories like this Money Heist kinda trashy show.
Well it aint. This is in league of Breaking Bad, Better call saul
Only way Netflix doesn't pick up season 4 is if they decide they don't like money.
Let's hope. The major problem at the moment is the ongoing delay in production due to Covid.
Then its better for Marty to do money laundry for Netflix in order to make it
@@carlitobrigante330 Damn it.. why did you have to remind me 😂 It's gonna be forever til season 4 😭
No vocation, no office, no job and we are at home and we are ready for season 4 :)
Maybe the Navarro cartel will pay Netflix off...
One thing about Ben I haven't heard anyone mention is even though he had bipolar and messed up alot, he was the moral center of the show in season 3. His reactions were actually normal for anyone to feel and it's the every one else who's reactions were off. It was a very clever way to get to his demise
sable mae I don’t think his reactions were normal. But nothing he said about anybody was a lie. Everything he said about everybody was spot on.
Out of context, sure. But the juxtaposition of his reaction and that of the kids shows how out of touch he is with HIS reality and the reality he joined with the Byrds. The lack of situational awareness and common sense progressively get worse and worse.
i noticed that too
His whole demeanour and actions this season were synopsized with his opening scene of episode 2. He was a warrior for the moral high ground, but impulsive and erratic.
JR Smith
Shit, you’re right. I had almost forgotten about his introduction. He’s principled but his condition doesn’t allow him to act on it properly.
Ruth was not tired of Marty, she was hell bent on getting rid and back at Wendy. She loves Marty.
Yeah I agree. She knows and is grateful for how much belief Marty had in her.
I do think though that Marty not getting revenge for her beating did hurt her though.
But I like to think that Marty would have eventually done something, in his own long game style.
I wish she knew her father was trying to rat her out ..
Totally agree. And I think she will be loyal to him at the end. It's her personality...very loyal.
Ruth doesn't see that she was just as much at fault for Ben's death as Marty and Wendy.
You are dead on. She hates Wendy with a passion.
"I'm beginning to think I may have undervalued my services."
When she said that i knew she had to be killed. She got greedy.
Lol we all knew what Helen meant when she said "we'll take care of you"
YEP!!!!!
apierre6 yeap! Helen said we’ll make sure you’re taken care of and I’m like oh Sue! You’re toast! 🙈🙈
For me, when she said "not money" then went ahead and accepted it,,,that's when i knew that old bitch was up for no good, that's how greedy people behave, if yoi was to take the money at a go take it.
Nice twist with such an older character acting like that! Very realistic
All of this conflict could have been avoided if everyone would just listen to Marty.
I say that to myself all the time
THIS !!!
IKR!!!
No way, he decided to launder money years back. Lol
@@passiveagressive4983 if Wendy listened to Marty at the end of season 2 instead of getting power-hungry, her brother would have been alive
Best show on netflix for me, jason bateman is amazing
@Andy Bennett Watch him acting in and directing in HBO’s “The Outsider,” based on a Stephen King novel of the same name. Good show with an international, powerhouse cast.
@@i.s.paccara9313 I will do my mate.
Thanks very much.
Couldnt agree with you more, simply the best
Huge Jason Bateman fan. Couldn't agree more! @Andy Agreed! I want to see a recap of that show as well! Very dark, disturbing and eerie! I was let down by the final episode though. Felt anticlimactic to me.
Definitely!!!!
When Ruth called Wendy a “wolf b!+@h” I died laughing.
Perfect way to end an extremely intense scene 😆❤️
Same here 🤣
Shes the best, shes go those one liners that cut deep. I felt for her, Wendy could have her bro killed but not the Frank Jr who beat her up, I hate how they never stood up for by dealing with him..
I FELL over on THAT one
I wish I'd have thought to call someone a bitch wolf before :(
That had me dying!! 😂😂😂
Give Tom Pelphrey the Emmy now, he was incredible as the tragic Ben.
Damn, Ben crossed the line going to Helen's home. There was no way he could live after doing that in front of her daughter. I really liked his character.
Mike from better call saul getting the Emmy this year.
Shit the Byrdes closed a line for me after wendy killed her own brother definitely the most evil characters in the show
Visionary I know and I felt terrible watching that, but another perspective, if they hadn’t given him up they and their kids may have had to pay the price. Would you really sacrifice your life and that of your kids for a brother who’s hell bent on getting himself killed?
He was trying to hard
One of the things that truly annoys me about Marty is his lack of emotions towards Ruth. You can see how hard Ruth tries to get some sort of validation from him but always gets shut down. 😕
But he care about her he fking saved her and cut the business off from the mafia of KC
Yup! his character is emotionless, the coolest guy in the world, Too cool to be real.
marty is a sociopath. he treats everyone like that
Chelsea Windsor I think that moment his dad dies and Marty doesn’t really react even while he was in the hospital shows who Marty is , he doesn’t react to most things he’s always calculating that’s why Navarro asked him what do you want
But still Marty cares for Ruth in his own way
I was dying of laughter when I saw Sue pull up in that McClaren, she got to greedy and welp
That was the seasons height of laughter, Wyatt and Charlene comes in at second lol
@@carmeronjack159 DARLENE
carmeron jack that was just straight up nasty
aztecnano1 😂😂 right.
aztecnano1 I fucking died when she starts talking to Marty and goes “that hit, was that us??” Something about this old lady pulling up in a mclaren acting like a cartel member had me dying
One of the most important aspects of Wendy betraying Ben is that after promising to not talk to Helen, he went ahead and bought a new cell phone. To me, that sealed his fate.
Yea i found my self pissed at ben at that point
I was pissed at Ben too for that but who knows maybe he was going to try and call Ruth. Probably unlikely but maybe that’s one of the things going through Wendy’s head when she’s devastated after the ordeal.
@@zainash3320 nah he was trying to make it all right with Helene. He wouldn't shut up about it after everything happened and btw, how many times did he even call Ruth at all while on the run? But the idea of selling out your mentally ill brother to save your family is one tough decision and the scene during her breakdown and depression was raw and captivating. But shit so was Ben's in the taxi. Fuck give them all awards. Even the dude who got his ass beat in the bar by Ben
At that point, I TRULY felt Wendy's pain in dealing with her brother. When her tears started falling as she was talking to the cashier bc she was coming to the realization of what she had to do. Their dynamic was super painful to watch...from having him committed to having him killed. 😢🥺😢
What if he wasn’t actually killed? We never saw the body unwrapped. What it the Wendy made some kind of a deal, or paid off the guy to act like he killed him
The scene in the restaurant was just heartbreaking.
I dare to say that "the final supper" scene was beautiful. Sad. Haunting. In my opinion it was the best scene of the series. Wendy killed it. (And her brother)
Such a great scene tho. The music. How they intertwined Wendy’s call with Marty and Nelson showing up. That was one of the best scenes of television I’ve ever seen.
I haven’t seen any comments about Jonah, but I’d just like to say... he’s a real one. I hope nothing happens to him in the future.
Seriously ! Underrated character !
oh that character has evolved constantly and strong, also the actor will be more mature / grown for S4. So as for S3 finale, Jonah will (need to) have a more powerful role in that story
Yeahh right charlotte and jonah really underrated, charlotte now mature enough to know whats going on, she holds so many secrets, and stays to keep it cool, in the other hand jonah is on his transition phase between accept the reality and wants to be free, but he become a badass cuz of ben, but he's still young and starts to questioning his family's morality
R 69 M actually no. He became a badass because of Buddy.
@@emilyholmstrom6616 yes, Jonah became a bad ass because of Buddy. Buddy taught him to shoot and taught him truth in living - something he wasn't getting at home. He was also his first friend.
I think they developed Darlene alot this season she seemed to move more off her temporary emotions...This season she seemed to move more off manipulation and strategy to achieve her goals
I dont think Darlene's character developed any differently other than she no longer has an equal partner. She grows heroine and cant stand outsiders on her land. This is Darlene from season 1 to infinity and beyond.
The whole season, every scene Darlene was in I was expecting her to kills anyone she came in contact with! Darlene is a psychopath
I liked Darlene since she blew the Mexican boss’s head off in season 1. Darlene never fucked around and never switched up
@@aaronbrutus2654 I don't think so. Because in season 1 Darlene is what you portrayed, she hates outsiders messing with their business. Howerver in this season you can clearly see darlene saw an oppening with Wyatt from the lagmores and the development that came from that. She knew Wyatt, hating Ruth, would be a gateway to explore the dynamics between ruth and the Byrds which, as everyone saw, resulted in Ruth joining Darlene in the end.
You can see the shift in power when Darlene admits to killing his husband right after Wyatt tells her that Ruth killed his father and uncle. Instead of Darlene being pissed she saw the opportunity to guide them towards a common enemey...the byrds.
You also have the consider that the Frank Sr was well aware of the problems his son was causing. I actually liked Darlene's action there and to me it was a good moment for the show.
This season was by far the best one, I'm really liking the direction and development most characters are having and I hope that they can build upon this for season 4 even though, to me there isn't alot more material to go from here (the ending on this season even though it's a cliffhanger, it was a kinda closed ending). I hope they end the show next season or the season after that so it doesn't feel too dragged out.
Afonso Luís S3 was amazing by far the best. They have enough material and great characters to end this show with 5 seasons.
Who else thought it was DISGUSTING seeing Wyatt and Darlene together?🤢
Word that was nasty 🤢
Hayden That relationship won’t last long
@@Nolan.Gurule Damn man
Me! Because he's a teenager! If he was a full grown adult, the age difference wouldn't bother me but this relationship creeps me out bad.
Old skanks need love too bro
Ruth didn’t leave because of Marty, she left because of Wendy.
To an extent, but we saw in her eyes a sad look every time Marty has failed to show her any attention or compassion. In the end, it was cumulative in her decision to leave.
She shouldn’t take ben out of mental hospital, Wendy did her a favour by killing her terrible dad
She's going to end up back on the Byrds because Wyatt is going to date Charlotte and DARLENE will finally get smoked by Nelson and the bryds will live on the Snells land.
@@kragar77 you may be on to something there Mike, good story plot...😉😁🤣
@@kragar77 Wow! That is very impressive plotting. I read it here first!! Any thoughts on Maya and Navarro?
Marty is always paying for Wendy's mistakes. He knows that he can't trust her, and for that, had to tap her phone, which led to his little trip to Mexico. Marty is trying to keep his family alive, and Wendy is out doing her own thing, making more work for Marty. Wendy never gets her hands dirty, never gets involved in the day-to-day grind to keep the ship steaming forward.
Completely agree. Power got to Wendy's head
She's just like Helen, cold and manipulative power hungry biatch
Completely agree. Marty is trying to stay under the radar, doing just what needed to be done. Wendy on the other hand had a power trip, which will cost them dearly.
She’s trying to out do her husband and looks at him as her competition. She mentions it a lot in season 3 on how she thinks he’s jealous of her, but actually the opposite is true. She knows deep down that this whole thing is her fault from the very beginning. If she didn’t cheat on her husband none of this would of happened. I hate Wendy hope Ruth gets her revenge on her.
I mostly agree but she did eventually get her hands dirty because she had her own brother killed
When Wyat told his sister Darlene wanted him to meet her mother. To funny.
Right?! I was like how old is she????
Sister?? They’re cousins
@@eljokerjce ok the funny bit was wyat meeting darlenes mom.
They def cousins bruh
@@eljokerjce aunt and nephew
This season rekt my sleep cycle...
Jake R same
Same here
Mine too😅
Me too. I was up till 2:30am finishing it up.
6:30 am here, worth it
marty remembering his video games in his childhood to survive his ordeal was epic
I’m assuming the whole point of that was to show that the only way you can win is to keep playing, like he said as a kid “the game is rigged, the only way you can win is by putting in more quarters”. Which motivated him to agree to the expansion deal afterwards, because he knew the only way he was gonna win (survive) was to keep playing the game and to keep the money funneling to the cartel. He says later on, “our security is tied to Navarros security, if he has a secure future, so do we”
Agreed, I love the quote "the only way to win the game is to keep playing" is genuinely one of my favourite quotes ever now.
Can someone explain why the KC mob blowing up Marty’s office at the end of season 2 was completely unaddressed ???
and it looked like the same office in the next episode? - very odd....
@@cpa2011 I was confused by that too...like are we forgetting the office bomb
THAT'S What I Said!!!!!
I noticed the 2nd season ( especially the finale) originally set up for several plot lines in the 3rd season that the writers just dropped and kind of expected everyone to just..forget?
Because I think they realized the bombing combined with agent peddy murder would have the entire area crawling with ATF and FBI rather than just the casino being focused on by one unit, the amount of heat on Marty would make him so much of a liability he’d be done for. So the writers were like yea that just .. Um .. didn’t happen but look casino and a few FBI agents ! Scaarryyy. Rachel and tuck who? Look Nelson talks now!!
Wyatt supposedly hit the road and made it about as far as the grocery store but look he’s with Darlene ! Ew!
Writers room -“That’s weird and distracting enough right guys?”
“ oh yea we’re good”
“ oh yea and throw in the Um bipolar brother we need some cannon fodder “
“ genius”
“ add a therapist or something too”
C Black I completely forgot about that lol
Surely Netflix would pick Ozark back up after the Emmy nominations and wins the last couple of years! Julia Garner winning best supporting actress and Jason Bateman winning best directing
I agree that the Emmys should make the difference. In general it doesn't seem like Netflix likes to produce longer series anymore, but they do like to win awards.
This was left wide open for season 4, probably already in the making!
This show has been the #2 popular right after tiger king (another awesome show lol) so I can’t think of a reason for them to pull it out
The creators of the show have said they want to do 5 seasons. They said they could do 7 but 5 seems like a good ending point for the show. So I think we will def get 5 seasons at least.
They already have two more years wrote just don't know if Netflix is going to pick it up
The death of the therapist was foreshadowing to the death of Helen. She wanted more, so she was taken care of.
Could be a foreshadowing of Wendy too, she keeps wanting to expand and become more powerful
That’s a pretty cool observation
jessesam Oh no I definitely noticed that one but this other one is a good observation as well
Nice catch.
Odysseas Μ damn that’s so good and true her greed got her killed just like Helen
Daughter: *sips drink* [nonchalantly] we have footage
Parents: 🤯🤯
Jason Bateman is on helluva a actor and doesn’t get the credit he deserves he has the best timing of any actor except for maybe Leo , Jason is so believable in anything he does 👍👍
Exactly. He's a master at the nuanced response and reactions. The scene when Navarro asked him 'what does he want?'.... Marty gives it a good 10 to 15 seconds to acknowledge, evaluate and reply with a simple 'I don't understand the question'. It was so subtle but utterly natural
Marty has become soft and unlikable.. Wendy Ruth and the attorney were the savages
Yeah, but you failed to mention the key - the end of season 2 established "the women", but season 3 was the restoration of balance in reestablishing Marty as the prime mover, when Wendy admits Marty was right to try to run. Wendy and Helen could not run things without Marty, and Helen's demise cements that. This show is about money laundering, and the brain behind that - make no mistake - is Marty.
Perfectly said
I’m also happy they gave some relevance back to Marty this season, however I think Wendy was definitely correct in the fact that there’s no way they could have run. They would already have been dead by now if they chose to IMO. Wendy made a lot of big moves this season which I honestly feel would have contributed to their safety overall, had Marty and her not been at odds. That being said she definitely got overly confident about her relationship with Navarro, you can’t be friends with a drug lord lol.
@@Whorecultist Given the war with the other cartel, I'm not so sure Navarro would have had the resources, attention, or available skilled team members to bother chasing after the Byrds. So, no, I don't agree that it is a fact they could not have run. Besdies, Wendy's push to acquire that second casino, against Marty's judgment, screwed things up royally for everyone. Think about it - it's the 2nd casino that brought Helen to move into town; that's what put Helen and Ben on a collision course; that's what had Helen thinking about removing Marty; that's what got the Kansas City mobster's idiot son more invovled, which created conflict for Ruth...and on, and on...at the end of the day, Marty rescued his family, yet again, all the while having to fight with Wendy to do it which, come to think of it, was how it was way back in Chicago when she was emptying out their bank accounts and gaining the attention of Del, who offered to just kill her, and it was Marty who saved her life there, again - sheesh, imagine if she'd just stay on page with him!
@@dgaubin I disagree that all of that falls on Wendy. The mobster's son was a jackass, and I don't think them buying the second casino really effected the path that he was on. Don't forget, Marty is the one that brought the feds down on them with his attempt to sabotage Wendy, which is why Helen got so heavily involved in the first place. Wendy is also the one that told Ruth about Ben, she warned everyone about him. Ruth is just as if not more guilty for Ben's death than Wendy is. She watched him have his massive episode and still asked Darlene to get him out. I won't disagree that Wendy has made some mistakes, but Marty has played an equal part in the mess.
@@Whorecultist Marty didn't bring the feds in. Buying the second casino did, and that's on Wendy. Bottom line, it's about money laundering. Marty's good with money, Wendy didn't just learn it by osmosis. She's out of her league and she admitted it.
I finished the season too soon.. but here I am
I watched straight through. Drops at 2pm my time so if I get hooked it's hard to break away.
@@PetePeppers1 Haha yeah. Just finished about 20 minutes before my post. Im curious to see Three's involvement in season 4. He still doesn't know anything, right?
They never told him. I think he was caught off guard by the Wyatt and Darlene situation, and that dominated his thinking.
I binged this entire series in two days.
Same
My favorite line was when Nelson and Helen are watching Sue sink into the water and Nelson says "She was a good listener."
Lmao 😂 🤣😂
It was really sad when we saw Ben outside that restaurant and Wendy crying in her van I thought she was leaving him to find his own way in life but... then we find out she actually made the phone call to have him killed it’s like you wanted to be part of the show at that moment and just yell at Wendy... It’s just a Tv series tho lmao that’s how you know it’s a great series tho can’t wait for season 4!!!!
Fresh gaming damn really? I saw it coming once she saw him buy the phone. She already made their reality abundantly clear to ben and he just kept digging his own grave. And once she asked him what he pictured in 5 years i knew for sure that was it!
MrBananaSamich I thought exactly the same thing. When she saw him buy the phone, we all knew. She understood right there that he would never stop being a liability and she treated him that way. I gotta say I felt like tearing up when she asked him where he wanted to be in 5 years... She wanted his last moment to be a good, hopeful one.
I didn’t feel bad for Ben at that point. I felt bad for Wendy. If they had kept Ben alive he would have just kept coming back to them and kept being a massive liability. Like Marty told him, the margin for error for their family is practically nonexistent. One mistake might be forgivable, but if you keep making mistakes it’s going to cost you your life.
Holyyyy shatttt. Wheres season 4? I need already like a junkie 😂
I know. It's gonna be a long wait.
Bryan O it’s prob gonna drop end of 2021 so u bout to go through withdraw
RowdyEBK i know sadly 😂
I would say it's a 2 year wait for the 4th season, considering the current pandemic.
I know!!! I just finished it..and I replayed the last scene!! I couldn't believe it!!! Best show evaaaaa!
The actor who played Ben, Tom Pelphrey absolutely should get an Emmy nomination for his work on Ozark.
Brilliant portal. I remember him from the soap opera The Guiding Light where he won 2 daytime Emmys for his work on that show!
Terry Lauren Vuitton yep, he was a rough neck! I loved Guiding Light!
He is like Keanu Reeves 2.0 :-)
Yeah, someone else also watched Guiding Light. I loved him on that soap. I think he was Reva's illigitimate son.
It was soapy MESS
@@charnettagreen4720 maybe
The actor portraying Ben was incredible, specially in the taxi scene. Helen was by far the best and most interesting character this entire season and in general. Evil, powerful, and an assassin but understanding and quite human at times as well. Amazing, same goes to Ruth’s actress
Don't forget Sue as well
Well buddy did tell them to leave Ozark after the casino was built. Rip
Helen tried to manipulate her easy to anger boss over played her hand and lost
Mr.NoChill facts!! Her personal life became a major conflict of interest w/ her obligatory job duties.
Mr.NoChill Agreed, I feel heartbroken for her daughter Erin though.
@@KirbyPuckettrocks34 she's gonna get killed too, if one gets it, the whole family gets it. Remember Del was going to kill Marty's family in the season 1 opening..
john doe definitely, the cartel was already looking for a reason to off her ex husband
@@johndoe-ii1ko wrong he just want to kill wendy because wendy knew evething he also said wheres the kids i dont want them to to witness her assasination
I almost puked when Darlene and Wyatt kissed
She actually looks decent with makeup like most wonen. They use zero on her
Wyatt likes ruffles and not so much wavy lays.😏
I think they'll use Charlotte to get Wyatt out of Darlene's operations in season 4.
She's actually quite a pretty lady, but that blood shot eyes they give her so that she look crazy doesn't help.
Hey, cant deny she has a nice body at least for her age
Ben absolutely stole season 3. Just hand him the Emmy.
Tim Tidball indeed!!
He was trying to hard and his accent was clearly fake
Jon Bois ok then you try acting as good as him lol
Laura was pretty great too, in that long drive across country.
Am I the only one who hated Ben's character?
I was also very impressed about the Hip-Hop selections they used in certain scenes REAL HIP-HOP true school to the core! Rakim, Wu-Tang Clan who ever chose the music selections MASTERFUL selections blended well especially showing the character of RUTH who seem to really enjoy true school HIP-HOP!
I'm guessing that has to do with Ruth being from the BX in real life
I loved that too!!
Same I fully agree and loved it. Was TRUE hip hop.
@@ThrghmyEyeZZ yeah
Ben's death was heartbreaking. Helen got what she deserved, however, I was not expecting that ending. It will be a very long wait for S4. The actor that played Ben was amazing.
That's Ward from Iron Fist lol
You should see him in Banshee on Cinemax
He looked like John Wick at different times
@@Routine4 he's dead mate. They didn't show him dying because they thought it would be more powerful showing it from Laura Linneys perspective and her heartbreaking reaction in the car
Helen was great too. and I miss Del , he was HOT
Couple of points: the actor that plays Ben displayed great emotional range in his character. Phenomenal work. The way many of the scenes were shot (accounting for continuity in the scene and creating tension and character contrast) was amazing. Season 3 was much much better than season two. Well done
I was truly impressed by him, he made Ben lovable, vulnerable but yet a little scary at times. He conveyed every layer of that character phenomenally. At the end you were just so heart broken by his poor choices because you knew he came from a good place and he had almost a childish innocence (the scene when Wendy kisses him in the forehead, so sweet). I really wanted Wendy to turn around that night. Give the guy a golden globe already!
Best season hands down
Rebecca DeanDean idk season one was pretty epic. A little bit more action which is the only advantage I’d give over season 3.
@@amikechu19 completely agree!
When Ben was in the taxi, I thought through the entire scene that the driver was the hit man. I think they did that on purpose with the driver's silence. And Ben's monologue. WOW. What a scene!
I got so angry about Ruth it was her fault wendy told her "tell Ben to take the meds" she didn't and blamed wendy for everything that's sucks!
She wanted that D
@@eliminator173 definitely lol
And she is one let Ben out of hospital, otherwise he might be still alive
I agree but Wendy is basically a manipulaitve Bitch, whereas Ruth has been constantly shat on her entire life. Remember she's only a few years older than CHarlotte.
Didnt ben say he was off his meds for years?
Even on helens death, I don't believe that her kids would be killed. The reason why because she's a lawyer she knew better and if she knew maybe going to Mexico was probably going to be her last trip she could of set up something for them if she goes missing.
Also Ben pissed me off, he fucked up, couldn't keep it shut.
She didn’t expect to be killed, remember she had asked the hitman to give her a heads up when it’s her time? I’m thinking Omar had a whole connect and inform him of what Helen was planning, her greed got a hold of her and thus she flew too close to the sun
She didn’t think she was going to die. She clearly thought Wendy and Marty were going to be the ones who were killed. That’s why she said to Ruth, “would you work for me if the byrds were out of the picture?”
I thought Ben killed the vibe of season 3.
@@xaviermdc5256 I don't think the Hitman or Navarro knew about the FBI paperwork Helen had. I think Wendy inadvertently put a hit on Helen when she told Navarro to not include Helen in the Casino.
Faaaaaacts
Guys can we PLEASE take a minute to realise that there are no words to explain how good this serie is, especially the last season. Only time and feelings can describe this serie, I have watched many series and this is one of the best along with breaking bad. It really felt for me like I lived by those lakes in Ozark. Just the atmosphere while watching this, just incredible. I would really gave some flowers to the makers of this serie because this was just insanely good.
Ikr. Season 4 wont be out anytime soon. Might as well rewatch the show again 😆
Such a good show. It’s so intense, leaving my heart beating at 90mph at the end of nearly every episode. An intense thriller.
Mister 9mm fun fact it wasn't even filmed in the ozarks it is filmed in Georgia on lake Altoona
Paul Rivers thanks for the information!
Agreed, this series might be better than the first which I adored, (something about outsiders moving to the middle of nowhere and coming into contact with a cast of bizarre characters is always a good model for a story ) I was initially slow to start watching because season 2 was SUCH a let down, I thought it’s continued demise was inevitable but I was SO wrong. And I’m so glad about it. The writing, acting and direction was second to none. I love this show. I hope filming for the next one doesn’t get delayed too much....
Agent Maya works with the Narvarro cartel and has been the whole time. Which is why she turns down every case Marty hands her and is so stubborn on trying to get Marty this insane deal. All to see if he's loyal. She probably ordered the kidnapping of Marty and flagged the account to see just how loyal he is. Then of course the last epsiode, she calls Marty to confirm he wasn't the one who signed the false confession. She then knows the truth and tells Narvarro. Hence why Hellen is killed. Agent Maya is the real girlfriend of Narvarro and the baby daddy is, you guessed it, Narvarro. Just kidding. Just a theory of course. Does it actually make sense though? I feel like it either does 100%, or doesn't at all haha.
Actually, I think this makes a whole lot of sense. (Of course, I don't know if that's what the producers/writers have in mind, but I think this is a tremendous guess. After all, they are REALLY playing up Maya's integrity. And, would be just like them to surprise everyone with just how deeply crooked she is in real life -- topping even Mary and Wendy for "appearances" of being legit, while being as crooked as anyone else. Well done!!
The thought of her being in Narvarros pocket and testing the Byrds loyalty did cross my mind. Your comment has now cemented that in my mind! Can't wait for season 4 to see if this is the case!
Wow, great theory. Can't wait to find out
That's an amazing theory!
Could be a possibility when you put it that way
I puked when darlene was riding and kissing wyatt
Fav character was nelson
They have the actress's face heavily made up to be ... well ... Darlene - she's gorgeous in real life. But you can't fake the body - amazingly hot for someone her age.
I need her gone
Darryl M I know but I hate her so much 🤣🤣
Nelson didn't give Helen no warning. lol
I hated Darlene in the beginning but she’s really grown on me. She’s dark, twisted, sick, ruthless, and vengeful. She’s definitely a strong villain that does an amazing job building up the Byrd family (the heroes).
Darlene and Wyatt grossed me out. But Ruth and Wyatt still cares about each other.and their conversations are funny. When Wyatt met Ben in her home : 'Isn't he too old for you?' Then remembered his own lover, the grandma Darlene.
In the other scene, Ruth asked Wyatt: 'How is Darlene?'
Wyatt said, "She's fine! She wants me to meet her mother!' Omfg, 😂
this is a show where you really don’t have a favorite actor. but i’m just gonna say that Ruth will be a mainstay in film. She’s so dynamic.
She's the best ❤
Ruth is fantastic. They all are great and play their parts well. I don't understand how Marty wouldn't be completely grey haired by now. Wendy pisses me off sometimes but my god, Laura Linney just kills it playing her! So good.
@@underscore2824 they are ok , Helens daughter SUCKED, glad they got her out of there what a bore.
Stop Go Jonah is a solid young actor, Charlotte is terrible though. Shes cute tho
*dealing with bipolar people is no joke. even if you wanna help them, they just keep messing up your life*
Amen to that (spoken from personal experience with a close family member).
I am wondering if Ruth will be pregnant with Ben's child in Season 4.
Gail Davis damn that’ll be good af
Yesss! What a twist! It ties Ruth and the Byrd’s forever, and Jonah has a new best friend.
Ooh that would make it interesting.
Gail Davis that would honestly make me so happy.
That would be a great Plot twist!, also, i think perhaps Ben is still alive at the wish of navarro, we never saw him actually get killed🤔 hmmmm
Was anyone else like wtf when they castrated the horse
lmfaooo right that felt so random in the moment. That was the one time this whole season that had me completely confused for a sec.
THAT was sad!!!
@@sresner7 horse belonged to the rival cartel. Killing that horse costed them millions. Horses that would run for money
HE LITERALLY TOOK THE BALLS...LIKE WTFFF!?!
That happened in real life between the medellin and cali cartel lol
Definitely thought season 3 was solid. Ben's story was rough, and Ruth's decision at the end will make for an interesting dynamic in season 4. Let me know what you think.
Sooo sad for. Ben I think helen didn't need to go that far I I think ruth will seek for vendetta but helen is fucked already
How about Tom Pelphrey acting as Ben. His performance was the highlight of season
@@Bigcell33 that's why my heart crush when he died he makes you believe that he was mentally ill for real that's why I was soo mad at
Helen glad that she died
Pete Peppers I hate that there only 10 episodes long .. now we gotta wait who knows how long for the next season... I really hope Jonah didn’t shoot anyone
Pete Peppers Ruth was my favorite character! Was so upset about her working for Darlene and am curious if the Byrd’s will get her back.
Marty is the brains Wendy is the muscle. They are yin and yang. The scariest character is their Son. The balls on that kid.
Mark Law Marty is Avon . Wendy is stronger bell if you’ve ever seen the wire
@@AE-wi3zb A complete series. I love the wire. Shhhhiiiiiitttt
If the son had balls he would have popped the lawyer when he ran up in her house with the gun.
Wendy has quick instincts while Marty has long term vision.
Uncle Ben looks like Chris Evans and Keanu Reeves
And Mac from its always sunny
I thought I was the only one noticed that resemblance
Yes
I was speechless when Hellen died
I thought they pulled off the scene in a way that gave it maximum impact. I was pretty sure that she would be killed, and it still was like wtf.
@@PetePeppers1 she deserve that hellen was a psycho
@Rhyan Miguel Gequillana yup that's my thought with ep runtime is only 3 mins left then... bam !
DEPARTED STYLE that snot box got rocked
@Rhyan Miguel Gequillana yeah, the amount of time left had me worried
A few things: First, the actor who played Ben deserves and Emmy and Golden Globe for his portrayal. That was some of the best acting I've seen on television in a long time. Like when he was in the State hospital crying to Ruth.. Damn near teared me up. The emotion was real.
Second, although I saw Ben's death coming by Wendy it was still heartbreaking and shocking to see. I thought Wendy was going to pull the trigger herself though, which would have been very heartbreaking. Did anyone else get a Of Mice and Men vibe? A Lenny and George between Wendy and Ben? Ben was Lenny and Wendy was George. Ben not being able to help himself, trying to do right in his own mind but only making things worse just like Lenny? Then during their dinner when Wendy asked him where he envisioned himself in five years, that reminded me of George telling Lenny to explain the farm they were going to live on. Great scene, powerful scene, even if it was a little predictable. But still very powerful.
Third, I also saw Helen's death coming, but just like the above example, it was still shocking despite somewhat predictable.
Overall I was impressed with the season. It started slow, and I didn't like the back and forth between Wendy and Marty. I understand it was important but I'm glad they didn't have it like that the whole season. But it really picked up half ways through. Charlotte's acting was pretty good. The actor who plays Jonah still needs work. And the actress who played Erin definitely needed work. But they're kids, so it's understandable.
Just my thoughts
The Piper Report I kinda got a Micheal corleone killing his brother fredo vibe
They ruined the season by killing off Ben like that. A redemption arch would have been so much better..
The Piper Report lol
He also did great acting as a badass ex-neo nazy turned deputy sheriff in Banshee, another good tv show.
I almost cried when she left Ben at the diner
Me too
I teared a lil
U know u cried be honest..
Is nobody seriously gonna talk about how he called him “agent Peety” like 5 times.
PETTY! It’s agent PETTY! Not PEETY!
Because its petty that's why!
OF MICE AND MEN
Wendys brother death and the leading of his death reminds me of Lenny from "of mice and men". a mentally disturb person who can't keep out of trouble and just cause too much trouble then he's worth.
The scene when Wendy ask her brother what he wants in 5 years is just like the scene when Lenny talk about a house where he can raise all the bunnies.
That was some Godfather shit right there like when Michael killed Fredo
not going to lie I was thinking the exact same thing
When she walked out the restaurant, that’s the first thing I said. “Of Mice and Men!”
At least in of mice and men George had the spine to pull the trigger himself.
Good analogy! Only difference his brother did the deed himself. Wendy pussed out. I can’t believe she trusted a hitman to take care of it.... he could’ve tortured her brother she didn’t know. The poor guy had to die knowing that his sister betrayed him.... He probably didn’t even fully understand why because he was mentally ill poor guy. 😭
I love Ben's character, he added something to this season. He deserves a Emmy for that scene alone...🙌🏾
Yep and Laura linney deserves another one for her breakdown in the car after Ben's demise
Helen to Sue: "Don't worry you'll be taken care of". Truer words were never spoken.
I’m sorry but I blame Ben’s death on him and Ruth. Wendy begged Ruth to help him get back on his meds. Then she gets him released from the place where he needed help and his first stop was Helen’s house. She should’ve never gotten him out. She should’ve listened to Wendy from the beginning. Now he’s dead!
Exactly she thinks she’s the innocent victim. How quickly she forgot where she started and where she ended up because Marty truly did care about her. Ben was a problem she & Wendy fed and are at fault for where Marty can truly be looked at as clean in that situation.
I think it's such an accurate portrayl of the criminal mind, nothing is ever their own fault, they never take responsibility, they always blame someone else.
Whatever anyone say, Ruth is the star of this show hands down.
Neng Mua ... i call he being pregnant for new plot twist. Maybe stay onside with bryds.
@@somewherehere424 Yep! I was thinking that might happen too and thus making the Byrds wanting to rekindle relations with her since wendy seems to want a new baby around.
Deddy, Ah sedd neow!
Absolutely.
I dont think anyone will disagree
“Was this us?”-Sue
By far the best line of the show.
Hahahaha that scene cracked me up
Mugshot Marley I’ve definitely rewatched that line a few times
Hu? When was this said?
I liked Sue the counsellor, she so reminded me of an impish, younger Dr. Ruth.....
Lmaooo!!!
I watched seasons 1 to 3 in 3 days and this show is a masterpiece.
The scene when Nelson shot Helen in the head was a real shock to the system. And seeing the Byrds covered in her brains was pretty gross.
My wife and I salivate for season 4.
When the marriage counselor said “was this us?” Bruh 🤦🏾♂️
Right .. .. .. i was like she gotta go.
"I'm beginning to think I may have undervalued my services."
Oh no baby, what is you doin'?
Simon Kapss 😂😂
I laughed for about 5 mins straight when she said that
I was 😂😂😂 on that part.
Why ?
The underrated arc in this season was the Wendy and Helen duo. Helen was supposed to be an overseer of the operation an ended up becoming friends with Wendy. So much so that she had dinner with them, and let them meet her daughter. Wendy helped Helen find a place, and they both discussed their marriage issues. She also helped Wendy with the idea of making Navarro legitimate money. Helen at this moment became vulnerable, she became more of a person than a boss. After a while, Helen noticed that Wendy was gaining a little too much clout for her comfort. Wendy was getting away with criticizing Navarro, not answering her phone for him, and calling him at her leisure. Once their children were detained by the Sheriff, that put a strain on their relationship. And Helen turned back into the ruthless Helen we all know. And Helen set in motion to uproot the Byrdes because of their liability issues.
Helen betrayed the byrds cause she was jealous of wendys clout and bad feelings because of her daughters trouble with the cops
Great onservation bro! I saw that
Eventually she became annoyed and like eff this im taking the reigns. But the byrdes always come through with a master plan lol
gospelevans i say both of you are right .
Helen made the mistake of involving her daughter. Helen's juxtapoistion of being evil and a caring mom, who had her child's daughter assaulted but wanted to shield her from a world of crime is really telling. Her character was bottle of contradiction waiting to explode. Her demise was sudden and unexpected but she thought she was untouchable, except for a little waterboarding, here and there.
@@dwrighte1 when was her daughter assaulted and by whom?
Marty made Ruth a Boss.. she will always be in his corner.
This comment did not age well at all lol did you even watch season 3? Ruth left Marty's business and is working with Darlene snell now
@@jimdangle3708 let see what happens.. they always come back.
The writers said they’re planning for Ozark to end at Season 5, so hopefully Netflix sees the potential in 2 more seasons!! This show is awesome!
Swampy24945 nooo where’d you see this?
To drag it out would be a disservice to the story.
Season 4 is the final
Season 4 is 14 episodes split into two parts so I guess technically there is a season 5 tho more like a 4B
I can't remember the last time that I cried watching a movie or tv show but Ben got me. That scene where he was begging not to be committed and yelling for Wendy. OMG...that was some powerful acting. Way too real.
I hated Ben and I'm glad he's dead. Lol
But the actor did a phenomenal job playing that role though.
I wasn't a fan of the writing. They guy was just convenient fodder - make us somewhat care about a lesser character so they could kill him off. Saw it coming a mile away.
I agree, it was good acting, but Ben seemed like a long distraction, I kept skipping ahead whenever that loser started crying again ha
Seriously he pissed me off 😂
It's honestly like you guys would do the same shit as these pathetic parents dipected in the show. Everyone needs to face up to their actions. These are the type of people who can't even be concidered "Americans" who the hell takes orders from down the border
I thought his character was great, well acted and the writers were able to make us feel for him, even though he did cause enormous amounts of issues that were ultimately his fault I still rooted for him
During the scene where Helen is talking about essentially taking over the casino business, you can here a fly buzz. That made me pay close attention to what they were saying because I couldn't shake the thought that the fly was edited in to make us think of death. Helen's death. If you were not wearing headphones though, that probably was a boring scene.
going back to listen for this, good take
Laura Linney once again showed why she is one of Hollywoods best actresses. Her performances are often so understated that when she finally has an outburst you are wondering where it came from. It is then you find yourself saying that she has been carrying this thing all along. Her breakdown in the minivan over her brother will or at least should win her another nomination. Her pain was raw and hard to watch. Cant wait for season 4
Helen sealed her faith when she overstep her boundary. She tried to take too much control. Marty and Wendy created the foundation and Helen just wanted to jump in and take over. Helen job was to be carrvarro eyes and ears and not make all decisions.
Last scene missin idk if I am wrong not only did Helen hate how much Marty and Wendy were able to get away with ( Erin hanging out with those boys and blaming Wendy, Wendy being able to talk to nararvo more then usually, actually jealous of Wendy and Marty kids of how they are comfortable with their lifestyle and how erin is) She straight up just saw the byrdes overwelcomed their stay she want stay up front with narvaro.
Indeed
@@hakeemsesay15 helen is threathen by marty and wendy. Narvarro needs them more. Whats nore important is that narvarro is beginning to trudt them even more. By killing helen he acomplish many things.
1. That he has them for good. Wendy agreeing to kill his brother shows that.
2.killing helen lets marty knows that no matter how valuable u
They are ,they can always be replace.
Plus helen thinks she is untouchable and narrvarro shows that no one is untouchable.
I think Helen felt threatened that Wendy would take her place. She saw how Navarro let Wendy get away with criticizing him, not answering the phone, and calling him whenever she wants. Helen was placed there as the overseer and slowly but surely, she became a partner/friend with the Byrdes. After their children got detained by the police, that put a strain on Helen and Wendy's relationship. And Helen began to recognize what was happening.
@@iantru9929 Helen was getting waterboarded in the first episode. Navarro already didn't trust her. Then, she started getting jealous, to the eventual point of fabricating a confession to get the whole Byrde family killed. She got greedy.
Episode 9 will be the Emmy winner.
Ben's acting, along with the direction and editing of that opening scene........ easily the best moment of the entire series, let alone the season.
EPISODE 6 had a remarkable opening scene when Marty and Wendy blew up at each other in front of the shrink. Those two were my favorite opens of the season
I laughed so bad when Marty called his therapist's new car "get back in your toy" 😂😂
Ben is Alive:
Navarro will use him as a leverage to the Byrde family in the future seasons.
We know that Nelson (the hitman) is only loyal to Navarro, by killing Helen.
Hmm that would be great!
Nohemi Vill I agree
Saul Goodman, we need your experties in this show if only can join them as replacment of Helen. Just think about it.
I was thinking the same thing since we technically never really see him dead. Kinda hope he’s alive Ruth deserves happiness :(
HeroicKhalid I'm not that violent like Helen, but it depends on the price.
To me was the best and my favorite part was see Wendy in the car crying desperately lost because of her brother, her pain was so deep, it make me cry,amazing performance
When she was asking him where can I take u? It was over for him. Hopefully Jonah doesn’t end up hating his mom. He’s so proud of her. The way he looks at her with a smile.
Also, Wndy and Marty did stand up for Ruth; they just didn't stand up for her in the way Ruth wanted. Darlene had a different bargaining chip to offer Frank Sr. that Wendy and Mark didn't.
I agree. I think Marty somehow got Ben out. He knew Wendy would be devastated thinking she had Ben killed, which would then allow him to take the reins again (for awhile) without Wendy working against him. Marty still has a master plan to get the family out of the cartel and away to freedom and safety. Marty will always be the smartest guy in the room.
BEN STOLE THE SHOW WITH ONLY COMING OUT IN A FEW EPISODES
Just wanted to say Marty DOES show emotion, he represses emotions, it's very different psychologocally. That's the reason I love his character.
**SPOILER ALERT**
Ben was released from the hospital and went straight to expose Helen to her child, which is what got the Cartel to go after him. It wasn't him going to the casino which put him on their radar, it was because he pissed off Helen personally.
And I feel that Helen was killed not because Navarro chose the Byrdes over her, but because he noticed that Helen started working in the interest of herself, whereas the Byrdes were working in the interest of him. For example, Wendy got her own brother killed for Navarro, which was for his betterment, whereas for Helen that was a personal victory.
Helen's plan to get rid of the Byrdes was full of holes. It made absolutely no sense for Marty to confess to the FBI after Wendy had her brother killed for Navarro - surely he would have turned before that. Plus to have Helen of all people represent him when testifying against Navarro was plain stupid, Navarro would know that Marty is smarter than that.
Helen was an incredible lawyer so she still had value and Navarro could have sat both parties down and told them to stop their fighting. But it became clear to him that Helen's plays were simply to discredit the Byrdes rather than to help the Cartel. Navarro mentioned to Wendy that it's not a partnership and he is only using them. I think in Helen's case Navarro noticed that Helen started to use him (to gain the casinos and hotels for more money in her pocket). That's why she was eliminated.
I agree about Helen's plan to get rid of the Byrds was vindictive and ill-planned, however, I do not believe Navarro chose the Byrds over Helen because she was working for own self-interest, rather I feel that Navarro truly saw how much more of the Byrds were able to help Navarro, and how Helen and her personal vindictive nature put that at risk. The birds simply had more to give to Navarro than Helen ever had. Marty is far smarter than anyone else when it comes to laundering money so he is a clear asset, while Wendy is clearly smart and is ambitious. Moreover, we know Navarro saw the two plans ahead of him, one where the Byrds ended the war, and one where Helen ended the Byrds. Clearly, he just chose the better option for himself and got rid of Helen because he knew her ill-will and crappy plan would cost him.
Touché, sir, touché.
@@conorv11 I feel like you're saying the same think I am, just in a different way. Aren't Helen's ill-will and personal vindictive nature large components of her own self-interest? If they weren't, Navarro could have kept Helen in the picture, promoted the Byrds and told Helen to play happy family. After all, her personal hitman Frank works for Navarro, not her, so even Helen wouldn't have been able to touch the Byrds.
You guys remember when Helen told Frank the hitman, that if her day ever came, to tell her. I guess his missed the memo 😅
Yeah, going to the casino put him back on the radar after Ruth successfully hid him at the Snell farm. He went straight to see Helen and he was never going to be able to fix that, but might have been able to hide out. Helen's plan was that Navarro would kill the Byrdes when she showed him the confession. I don't think she ever intended to have to see it through in the US because Marty and Wendy would have disappeared.
The therapist car scene was so funny
She got greedy
@@eddubya2496 right
Wendy’s the most interesting... her development has been spectacular...
When the marriage counselor said was this us I was 💀 😂😂😂😂
Haha. I was just editing my new Ozark video and stopped and watched that scene in the driveway when I saw it in the editor.