Moondrop Venus REVIEW! vs. Hifiman Edition XS

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  • @SuperReview
    @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Audience Q&A is here 👉 th-cam.com/video/Du3WyuZUrPQ/w-d-xo.html
    Missed the Q&A but still got a question? Follow me on Minds and start a Supermind with me for guaranteed response. www.minds.com/superreview/

  • @jordanjonescelestialwaffle1698
    @jordanjonescelestialwaffle1698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good review man! Thank you for for this! Very impressive how they went for the full-metal build and crazy sound quality for their first time making a planer headphone. For their second headphone, just WOW!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, let's hope this is just the start for them.

  • @LilBrujoFH18
    @LilBrujoFH18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bought the xs as soon as it dropped but did not really enjoyed them, recently bought the hifiman ef400 and wow. Amazing pair with the xs. Now I absolutely love the xs

  • @smolzillamakes
    @smolzillamakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I actually had QC issues with my XS. There was a buzzing in the left ear at certain frequencies. Showed up in my music and my stupid picky ears couldn't unhear it. Was talking to customer service from where I got them from and he was telling me that it's apparently something they've seen a LOT of. So be weary of that. If you're buying an XS, keep things around in case you need to return it. I can't speak to the Moondrop's quality, but the XS was very disappointing for me because I loved how they sounded. I personally just wouldn't feel safe getting another XS because who's to say that issue couldn't come about later down the line. Ended up getting an Audeze 2C and it's been fine but not the same as the XS.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      QC stuff happens. I actually had to return/replace my Audeze MM-500 because one channel got quiet >_

    • @smolzillamakes
      @smolzillamakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SuperReview oh yea I don't think any brand is immune from QC issues. It's just scary when you spend a lot of money on something like that and it doesn't work as you would hope. Eventually I could see myself trying the XS again but it's something I'll never not think about lol. Like I said, curse my picky ears for being able to pick out these little anomalies haha

    • @eddtru
      @eddtru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had this exact issue, buzzing at 700hz on left driver. Thought it was defective but it turned out to be the cable. I noticed the default cable had some wiggle room on the tip, I noticed cause I used to pushed the tip harder into the driver to fix it. I got a cheap FAAEAL cable from amazon and it completely fixed the problem.

  • @acdbrn2000
    @acdbrn2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I did end up ordering the Audeze LCD 2 Closed back after pulling up some more reviews of it and the DCA Aeon 2 Noir. Since I tend to avoid software EQ in favor of hearing the sound from the music being played and the gear (dac/amp chain and iem/headphones), the reviews and frequency response graphs look like the LCD 2 will match my preferences a little bit more then the Aeon 2 Noir. Also I tend to hop sources and headphones a lot so software EQ tends to get in the way a lot of the time.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I'm not an EQ guy for that reason.

    • @acdbrn2000
      @acdbrn2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperReview Okay the LCD 2 Closed is one of the most confusing headphones I have ever heard. The look and feel like they should be a monster of pure ear destruction, but what i got is one of the most agile and surprisingly delicate presentations of music I have heard. The bass is not the most powerful I have heard, but it is so responsive and it fades in and out of the mix with so much grace stealing the show when needed and flowing back in to the mix when it is time for something else to be highlighted. There might not be the force you get with some IEMs or Dynamic headphones, but there is so much texture and weight to it that the force is hardly missed.
      The detail is also quite insane from the slight string "wobble" in Johnny Cash's version of Hurt that added so much extra feeling to the mix.
      Separation and sense of space is also confusing since that is supposed to be the big trade going closed, but it sounds like being in a small but well controlled room with a very nice pair of speakers or maybe in a small venue with the band all around me. The positioning is also very accurate, the music positioning was great so I decided to try it with a test in gaming and the accuracy is on point with none of that weird cylinder effect you can sometimes get when the staging is wider then it is going front to back. Nothing sounded like the sound was compressed left/right, front/back or even up/down.

  • @BrianVallotton
    @BrianVallotton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your reviews!

  • @h1a8
    @h1a8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this comparison. I was definitely confused on which one to get. I'm going with the Edition Xs because I value technicalities and stage/imaging over tonality (assuming headphones respond well to eq).
    You once mentioned that the venus responds well to bass boost equalization.
    Does the edition xs respond well too?

    • @MTheoOA
      @MTheoOA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In my experience, yes! When you EQ the very low bass, like 40hz, they respond doing some bizarre kicks, you can feel it. I do boost and you even can see the large drivers kicking you. But i didn't saw a lot of changes when i tried to push midbass.

    • @shakenbake2k479
      @shakenbake2k479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTheoOA "kicking you?"

    • @MTheoOA
      @MTheoOA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shakenbake2k479 yeah, you feel the punch in your ears, like a ''kick''. I think is this 40hz region that make the ''kick'' heavier and more physical

    • @ignacio9151
      @ignacio9151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTheoOA oh so it's because that region, no specifically the headphone response to EQ. Maybe is your EQ region too narrow or elevated? And is it preamplified so it does not clip audio?

  • @MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING
    @MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dekoni Elite Sheepskin Ear Pads for HiFiMan Arya those earpads make the tuning much much much more to my liking and still keep the Technical performance detail retrieval dynamics still there and improved a lot but Sacrifice sound stage but I personally like a Very intimate sound stage HIFIMAN edition-xs and all egg shape hifiman have 100mm in height and 80mm in width that swivel mounting system needs to be better and different on moondrop Venus because That looks and feels like it can fail at any moment and then we have a winner 🏆 with the better Build and its sound a little Splashy because Is inner Perforations In the ear pad Where the ear goes not holding the bass in and letting the treble in It has trouble separate on the separation side because it's 18 ohms it's doesn't have the stealth magnets to give it a Incredible amount like it does on the stealth magnets hifiman's

  • @mattriarchal
    @mattriarchal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the rapid fire content recently but make sure you take a break when you can!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Almost time for hibernation.

  • @YourfriendNextDoor2
    @YourfriendNextDoor2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There’s a broken seal for more bass. It’s a Abyss 1266 trick and XS has same thing.
    Also these neutral headphones are better on tubes IMO

  • @Gavanater7
    @Gavanater7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    XS got the stealth magnets which is why imaging and Soundstage is better.

  • @GadZookz
    @GadZookz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It must almost be time to break out the festive decorations for the 2022 Yearphone of the Ear Awards. Have you decided on which day it will be celebrated this year?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aiming for the week between Christmas and NYE.

    • @GadZookz
      @GadZookz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SuperReview Looks like 3 of my top 5 this year will be IEMs you recommended. I’m still waiting for the Heart Mirror Pro, which is a Crinacle rec, but it’s unlikely to knock out any of the others. Good idea BTW, to include an over-ear headphone this year. Will you be considering wireless OEsor just wired?

  • @ricardoi6419
    @ricardoi6419 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been interested in both of these for some time. Do they both leak more sound than a HD600? When I take my HD600 off it isn’t too audible. Enjoyed your review, hoping to see more headphones though!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  ปีที่แล้ว

      Edition XS definitely does, pretty sure Venus does too.

  • @arrowzen7433
    @arrowzen7433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Thank you. Now we need a comparison w. the HD G200 and the Sivga SV023…

  • @MrDomq22
    @MrDomq22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to ask - when you say “hi hats” do you genuinely mean hi hats specifically or do you mean cymbals in general like the crash at the beginning of dreams for example? I can see that crash being super splashy as it does come across somewhat harsh on a lot of my sets. Thanks for the review!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was specifically thinking of high hats when I said that. Like what starts here at 0:53: th-cam.com/video/QUuiOMJ50iI/w-d-xo.html

    • @MrDomq22
      @MrDomq22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperReview ahhh yeah I get you now, I thought you were referring to that ridiculously loud crash at the beginning of dreams. Now it makes sense. Thank you for cleaning that up!

  • @Bootrosgali
    @Bootrosgali 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shhure 1840 I can get on deal , should I get it? the reviews are amzing.

  • @MTheoOA
    @MTheoOA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    came back to watch you! I was missing your reviews, though i really don't want new headphones ^^'''. Maybe a Focal... uhg

    • @dangerzone007
      @dangerzone007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      HE X4 currently on sale for $79.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which headphones you rocking now?

    • @MTheoOA
      @MTheoOA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SuperReview Ah, K612 Pro and my Edition XS, had listened to hd650 too and other junk. Love both (not talking about IEMS, those i don't like as much as headphones, having hana 2021, some akg, tin hifis, etc).
      The thing is people talk about that Focal dynamics and bass slap... I don't even know if this is just placebo after watching the focal drivers moving like crazy or it's pretty much how you feel it (even if it's flat measuring). All this talk makes me so curious

  • @ZAIBYR
    @ZAIBYR ปีที่แล้ว

    What was their first headphone?

  • @dangerzone007
    @dangerzone007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Best headphone for metal under $100. HE X4 currently on sale for $79.

    • @dangerzone007
      @dangerzone007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soulfulfool the X4 with EQ is much better than any focal. It really slams and it's fast. Focals are relatively dull and boring.

    • @dangerzone007
      @dangerzone007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soulfulfool wrong. X4 is incredibly good. Much faster than the sluggish focals.

    • @dangerzone007
      @dangerzone007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soulfulfool if only you knew how to EQ you could save yourself so much money.

    • @dangerzone007
      @dangerzone007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@soulfulfool I think you've chosen the wrong name. Just fool would have been more of appropriate.

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ups, I missed the sale :(

  • @jamestorres5582
    @jamestorres5582 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow . I think the only other 100 mm planar Magnetic is the Audeze Mobius . Panda has 50 mm I THINK . Could be wrong with the Panda . Interesting

  • @guilhermecorreia1849
    @guilhermecorreia1849 ปีที่แล้ว

    What HP would you pick, XS, Venus or Sivga SV023?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  ปีที่แล้ว

      Never heard the Sivga. Between the other two... probably the XS.

  • @zhanurdos
    @zhanurdos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So xs is better than any hp in that price range?

    • @AliArghavan
      @AliArghavan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the sound signature you like, but probably.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For technical aspects, yeah. For tonal balance, I'd still take Sennheiser HD 600.

    • @S.G54321
      @S.G54321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. The Sash Tres 45ohm takes the crown for overall best technicalities under $1000. High up there with the Arya, LCD-X 2021, HD800s, Focal Clears and etc. Only issue is wait time in getting it made as it's a custom headphone

    • @zhanurdos
      @zhanurdos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@S.G54321 noname headphones

  • @GadZookz
    @GadZookz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did your name change too, Mr. Ryan?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did it?

    • @GadZookz
      @GadZookz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperReview Looks like it has changed to Marcus Orienis. Sounds vaguely Roman or maybe the name of a new IEM. 🤔

    • @GadZookz
      @GadZookz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Super Review is the only part I can see for you though. Does this change mean that I’m called Gad Zookz on your channel now?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GadZookz I still see Rob Hawke 🦅

    • @GadZookz
      @GadZookz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperReview Very Strange. Must be the weather.

  • @legendredux1291
    @legendredux1291 ปีที่แล้ว

    dunno how huge upgrade this is over my 560s I am not really an audiophile

  • @RainbowSun0529
    @RainbowSun0529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the one big problem of venus is the treble. The treble is so dim that you can't really enjoy basically any treble focuse music, they gonna all sound lifeless and dark on venus.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You've heard it?

    • @RainbowSun0529
      @RainbowSun0529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SuperReview Yep

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For people who like older Beyers, most neutral hps won't have enough highs

    • @RainbowSun0529
      @RainbowSun0529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pliedtka I daily drive my hek v2, and venus is significantly darker

  • @bliiblaablue
    @bliiblaablue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally wouldn't use the Tiffen Black Pro Mist filter with these kind of product videos, makes everything look bloomy and washed out without a proper color grading.. then again, this is just my assumption based on the image I'm seeing.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, you're seeing TH-cam's live stream compression.

  • @練梓燊
    @練梓燊 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope that Yamaha would send you YH5000se to review ~

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gorgeous headphones.

  • @missmygamergirl445
    @missmygamergirl445 ปีที่แล้ว

    All film drivers just arnt serviceable longterm. I had stax their long gone. If I went that way again I would buy the hi-end headset with the metal stator frames and build my own ten Y tube

  • @pulgmaz4564
    @pulgmaz4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The headband looks like a cheese grater

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that bad?

    • @pulgmaz4564
      @pulgmaz4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SuperReview no, but it has GRATE meme potential

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pulgmaz4564 Not sure whether to ban or promote you for that.

    • @pulgmaz4564
      @pulgmaz4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperReview worth it either way

  • @SzymonSaysStuff
    @SzymonSaysStuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 15 year old part of me says \m/

  • @r91playsind
    @r91playsind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please review the Quarks DSP. Apparently they're the best iem in the world.

    • @zhanurdos
      @zhanurdos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trash

    • @r91playsind
      @r91playsind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zhanurdos have you tried them?

    • @ralphjones1151
      @ralphjones1151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sharur isn’t someone you should listen to, he’s mostly a troll, I’m sure they’re good, but not that good

    • @SzymonSaysStuff
      @SzymonSaysStuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are $15. They are alright. I have the OG Quarks and the technical performance on them is really bad.

    • @r91playsind
      @r91playsind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ralphjones1151 I can read graphs. His opinions don't really matter much to me. Quarks DSP measures like a champ and has low distortion numbers (according to moondrop).
      I wanna know what Mark thinks about their sound signature.

  • @missmygamergirl445
    @missmygamergirl445 ปีที่แล้ว

    btw I absolutly belicve your bs ing about the SQ You know their garbage and dont wanna say it.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh OK, what other secret opinions do I have?