Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM II Review: A Nearly Perfect Package...at a Price

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  • @DustinAbbottTWI
    @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video is sponsored by Fantom Wallet. Visit store.fantomwallet.com and use code DUSTIN15 to get 15% off

  • @RG-rm9jt
    @RG-rm9jt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the new format with the detailed image quality review at the end. Keeps the review simple.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the feedback. I'm always experimenting and trying to find the best packaging for the content.

    • @john23232
      @john23232 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On my side, I prefer the first version of the format, I was feeling a bit confused during the initial summary. But I can get used to it at the end, do what is better for you, it is still the best video for this new lens😉 (I never buy before your videos, because for the other reviewers, I don’t agree with their appreciation of « Excellent / Outstanding / Very good » for the lenses that I own. Nothing beats showing photos + chart in a similar manner, thank you!

  • @strippedlist
    @strippedlist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Happy New Year Dustin, i wish you the best ....regards from Romania

  • @Toglander
    @Toglander 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video as always Dustin! I’d love to see you review the Sony 16-35mm f/4 PZ and do a comparison to this lens.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That one slipped through the cracks for me. I'll see if I can land one in 2024 for review.

  • @Jwitherow1964
    @Jwitherow1964 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well you have done it again! I am adding this lens to my wishlist,

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I seem to cost you a lot of money!

  • @alexmassengale433
    @alexmassengale433 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review! I used to be much more into some of this ultra high end gear but I've come to realize that for most uses I get 98% of the performance for much less. The overall quality of lenses is just so much higher than it used to be and some of the things like Tamrons latest and the Sigma Art series and some of the lower end Sony G series are just so good now even compared to the top professional grade gear from a few yeas ago.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your point is valid. There are so many good lenses that it has become difficult for a lens to stand out as exceptional.

  • @rickymcc9072
    @rickymcc9072 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Dustin another solid review. I have been 'on the fence' with this GM since it was announced. I already own 16 Sony lenses - far more than I can carry at any one time, so face a dilemma in picking what to pack for any given assignment or travel situation. Travel is particularly problematic as I'm usually weight and bulk restricted whilst having more subjects I'd like to cover. I think I'd love this GM zoom, but I do wonder if another combo might suit me better? Or not? I'm not rushing as I try to reflect on what might be best for me and my use situations. I'm fortunate in that I can afford it, so accept that many will see my dilemma as 'laughable' and of no consequence.
    I used to own the 16-35mm GM mk1 which I liked rather than loved. I found it big and heavy, so didnt always take it out. I felt it likely that a mkii would soon follow, so sold it 18 months ago, before the mkii was announced. Maybe lucky timing, but easy to forecast given mkii trend with 70-200 and 24-70 GMs. I currently own both of those (so say H' Trinity zooms) and can endorse the many positive comments .... smaller, lighter, sharper, better in pretty much every aspect. In short both outstanding. So I think this mkii will be one of the very best options available. Indeed when I sold my mk1 I was 70% sure I'd end up buying a mkii if/when available. But...... that hasn't yet happened. Why?
    Well I already had a 24mm GM f1.4 then added a 20mm G f1.8 (intending to shoot astrolandscapes occasionally). I also had a small 35mm f1.8 G so was beginning to experiment packing different lens combinations. I always loved wides and tele lense but less keen on mid ranges. Then I bought a 35mm f1.4 GM which became one of my 'go to' lens picks for many situations (perhaps less so travel on account of weight). I intended selling my 35mm G f1.8 as I thought the GM edged it in most respects. But both were better at 35mm than the original GM16-35. So I kept my 35G as well (smaller lighter and better for 'street'. With a growing appreciation of primes I then bought a 14mm f1.8 GM (hard to fault bar not taking front filters). Still on my prime quest I bought a 50mm f1.4 GM to add to my earlier kit.... 55mm Zeis, 85mm, 90 macro and 135mm GM. If I had an assistant/ caddy / porter then I'd prob only ever shoot primes. But that's an even sillier notion than my current over-lensed situation (prob already ridiculous to most).
    Zooms are great for travel, convenience and video. My 70-200mm GMii is usually first pick for travel meaning my 85, 90 and stunning 135 stay home. I was never a fan or the original 24-70, so owned a 24-105 G, mainly for travel. But I switched that for the improved 24-70 f2.8 GM mkii which for all 'real world' intents rivals my primes (24, 35, 35, 50 and 55) for IQ. Yes, I still prefer primes which are smaller, lighter, 1-2 stops faster, better boker etc but unless pixel peeping the mkii zoom is every bit as good and so better for travel. OK I'm a fortunate GAS suffering ba****d with too much glass, so why haven't I jumped on your review lens?....
    I bought the relatively tiny and pretty good 16-35 PZ f4 zoom. IQ is excellent but f4 is harder to like (minimal figure ground separation) useless for astro, and challenged in low-light and night situations. Great for travel but I feel a need to also pack a wide prime (typically my 14mm GM and/or 20mm G). In good light, for landscape use and for video the tiny PZ is hard to fault. So I haven't had any urgent burning need to get a wide GM zoom. Sony now complicate things with what looks like a good 16-25mm f2.8 G.
    I'm being torn by this dilemma as one can only learn so much by reviews alone. I could do with attending a trade show so that I can physically handle each and every combo option. Probably I need to buy and try to know for sure, but I already have a weakness in that I tend to hold onto glass (long after I should) when really a more sensible approach is to sell whatever you dont use in the prior year. Ican sell lenses but often suffer regret and occasionally buy them back again - something that makes it emotionally difficult for me to sell whst im not currently using. It's a form of 'sickness' which combined with GAS drives my hesitance.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Sounds like you have a lot of great lenses. I can't really answer this question for you, but do you really need the lens if you already have the excellent 14mm, 24mm, and 35mm GM lenses?

  • @nat-lj8kt
    @nat-lj8kt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    70-200 GM II was prime level at almost any setting. This lens is great. It is exceptional in its class (wide angle zooms are very hard to design). Small size, Good overall performance. Can't help but feel moat people who want high level performance would be better served by a set of primes or maybe 12-28 2.8 ( but it's a giant and different class and no 35mm). I guess for the perfect 16-35mm we have to wait another 10 years maybe

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Historically 70-200mm lenses have been MUCH stronger than wide angle zooms, so I'm not sure that is a fair comparison. Comparing to other wide angle zooms is fairer, and the 16-35 GM II comes up pretty strong in that comparison.

    • @nat-lj8kt
      @nat-lj8kt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DustinAbbottTWI 100% agree with you. My point being If I shot 135mm GM vs 70-200 GM II I could still tell the difference (because 135mm GM is insane in center) but would not care for 99.9% of cases where as on a 16-35 instrument, as good as it is "for a zoom", I could usually tell the difference compared to a prime and it will stay like this until perfect aberatium glass is discovered and a manufacturer learns how to shape it in the next 10 years;) Until then this lens will get the job done!

  • @sashinger5230
    @sashinger5230 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once more, an excellent review, Dustin! Was thinking about getting this lens and selling my 16-28, 28-200 and the 28-75, so the 16-35 and the 70-180 could be a more compact and suitable package for the outdoors. Won‘t need the bit of range from 36 to 69mm. If I need a 50mm for portraits I’d rather grab a prime. Wish you all the best for 2024!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are a lot of valid options for putting together a nice kit in 2024!

  • @davecurtis8833
    @davecurtis8833 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Dustin. What wide angle zoom do you use or are you using wide primes ?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm using primes, myself.

  • @WestWightPhotography
    @WestWightPhotography 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great review Dustin. The size and weight brings it closer to the 14 mm gm. What are your thoughts on the 16-35 2.8 gm ii compared to the 14mm gm , does the new 16-35 Len’s supersede it now and become a better purchase. Keep up the great work.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's ultimately a question only you can answer, as people have different priorities. 14mm is obviously still considerably wider, and F1.8 is much faster than F2.8, but the zoom has more features, better up close performance, and obviously the versatility of the zoom.

    • @ChristianLawrence
      @ChristianLawrence 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Dustin. Yes a tough one to call. Still scratching my head 🙂🙂

  • @stharlingdr
    @stharlingdr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy New Year Dustin Great review as always.. but i have a question how the 35mm 1.4 GM prime at 2.8 compare with this lens? reason i ask is because i was going to buy the 35mm GM but if this 16-35 is as good as the 35mm 1.4 at 2.8 i would buy the 16-35 to have the extra versatility.. Thanks in advance

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both lenses are going to be incredibly sharp. The 35GM is slightly more special at 35mm, obviously, but the zoom has 16-35mm, too!

    • @stharlingdr
      @stharlingdr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DustinAbbottTWI hey thanks for the response. I also have the 24-70 GM ii so I might be better off getting the 12-24 and the 35 prime

  • @hikertrashfilms
    @hikertrashfilms 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dustin, I tossed the 16-35GM away for the 20G because it was much sharper and resolved better on A1. Would the 20G be sharper than the 16-35GMII?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably not sharper, but probably not softer, either.

    • @hikertrashfilms
      @hikertrashfilms 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI I think the 16-35 is a killer glass for video work, but it makes it difficult to deploy the 50 1.2 prime alongside it for hiking on dual Alpha bodies. I got a 135GM to pair with my existing 20G & 50 1.2 instead of acquiring the GMII zoom. I sometimes miss the ability to go to 16mm but I just remember how soft and distorted the corners are on the GM zoom compared to Primes. I loved the 16-35GM, I hiked the entire Long Trail in Vermont from North Adam’s,MA-🇨🇦 with only that glass on the A1, and I enjoyed it, but I look back at the corners on all the images and see how the lines are not straight and still look off after Lightroom... I would of gotten the 16-35GMII if it debuted before the hiking season last year, but instead they dropped a stupid 50 1.4 when I already had the 1.2

  • @lewcehjitl3282
    @lewcehjitl3282 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my 24-70 f2.8 GM ii 😊.

  • @safesurfer1965
    @safesurfer1965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video Dustin. The 16-35 GMii is undoubtedly a fantastic lens, but quite expensive. A comparison with the new 14-25/2.8 G lens, which is nearly half the price and lighter and smaller would be very interesting.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do look forward to reviewing the newer lens.

  • @FrankyFeedler
    @FrankyFeedler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Comprehensive and practically useful review as always.
    Glass in all price ranges is getting so ridiculously good that I kind of feel there is continuously less and less between them.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a fair point. It has become difficult for lenses to really distinguish themselves from the pack.

  • @till5520
    @till5520 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Dustin! Love watching your reviews! Just bought that lens but was quite -underwhelmed- disappointed with the sharpness. I compared it to my 2 year old Sigma 16-28 and made the same test shots mounted on a tripod and I have to say that the Sigma seems to be the overall sharper lens, especially around 28-35mm. After watching your (and also other) review I have the feeling I might have gotten some buggy copy because it should be simply the best, right? Might send it back and order a new one.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, that doesn't sound right. There's no way the Sigma should be sharper.

    • @till5520
      @till5520 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for your reply! That's what I thought. Already sent it back, expecting a new copy next week. Have a nice one!

    • @RegrinderAlert
      @RegrinderAlert หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@till5520 Did you manage to get a better copy?

    • @till5520
      @till5520 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RegrinderAlert Yes, I did! 👌

  • @EmGa-p9l
    @EmGa-p9l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Dustin! Which lens has higher resolution and detail - Sony 12-24 GM vs Sony 16-35 GM II?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't done a head to head between them, but the truth of the matter is that either lens is pretty epically sharp.

    • @EmGa-p9l
      @EmGa-p9l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Dustin, thanks for your response!
      I'm just planning to buy one of them and would like to know which of the two is sharper.

  • @joachimkvernberg1750
    @joachimkvernberg1750 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am missing a comparison with the GM I version. Many of the potential buyers are probably GM I owners wondering if an upgrade to the GM II is worth it or not.

    • @Mattrossphoto
      @Mattrossphoto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had the first one for a about a year. Was perfect focusing and perfectly sharp. I remember when they announced it I thought ‘why?’😂
      I’m a portrait guy so I sold it to help get me the 24-70ii, which is plenty enough wide for me. Im keeping the 24-70ii, 50 1.2, 70-200ii and a7rv
      Currently transitioning to gfx100, painfully slow so I’m keeping the Sony as long as I can lol. Not planning on buying anymore sony gear but who knows, it really is a fantastic system
      Sorry for all that😂 first 16-35 is amazing though it hangs well with the 24-200ii, it say save yourself the money

    • @criticaltinker
      @criticaltinker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out Mark Galer's review of this lens. He have some comparison in sharpness against the GM I

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As I never reviewed the Ist gen lens, I don't really have that perspective. I came over to Sony well after the first generation of GM lenses.

  • @Robm_ph
    @Robm_ph 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Dustin ! Great rev as always !!
    Please if possible compare this and the newer 24-50 2.8 G with the cheaper tamron 20-40mm 2.8

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I might be able to draw some inferences to this review, but I won't have all three of those lenses at the same time.

    • @Robm_ph
      @Robm_ph 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI got it ! No worries.. but they seems very similiar at least on paper, and there is no other comparison for these 3 lenses available on YT right now.
      And i have to say there is no other reviewer on the net like Mr Abbott !! 😉

  • @smlhtr
    @smlhtr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good ol’ sony copy variation here. 28-35 is significantly stronger than 16-24 on my copy. Midframe was quite bad on my copy at 16mm. Glad 35 is much better on my copy though since I’ve fallen out of love with the ultra-wide angle look in the last few months after shooting it exclusively for years

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad your lens is strong where it matters to you.

    • @smlhtr
      @smlhtr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks, Dustin! Great review. Always love the structure and detail of them. Cheers!

  • @robertoa6958
    @robertoa6958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review as usual Thanks !

  • @robertcudlipp3426
    @robertcudlipp3426 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clearly an excellent lens. Would be tempting were I invested in the Sony ff system and could actually afford to pay the price of admission.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's definitely the challenge with GM lenses.

  • @denizahmet2299
    @denizahmet2299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Shame you didn't have the Gen 1 version for comparison Dustin. Also would like to see it vs 12-24 GM if possible.

    • @RG-rm9jt
      @RG-rm9jt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are a couple of sites out there that have comparisons up. He does talk about the comparison a little bit, but it would be nice if he concluded on the other options in this range. Sigma and Tamron also have very enticing offers.

    • @TsvetanVR
      @TsvetanVR 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      +1 for the 12-24. It makes much more sense at the wider end of the "holy trinity" as the 24-70 already covers the 24-35 range so the 16-35 sits a bit weird there. I'd rather have the extra 4mm on the wide end.

    • @Suroy
      @Suroy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@TsvetanVRInteresting, I was thinking this could be a perfect lens to combo with the Tamron 35-150mm

    • @lighthousephoto7143
      @lighthousephoto7143 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. The gen 1 was already a spectacular lens.

    • @criticaltinker
      @criticaltinker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mark Galer did a comparison between the GM I and GM II

  • @RalfWeyer
    @RalfWeyer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing how less the lens extends I wonder why Sony didn’t make it an internally zooming lens.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a fair point.

    • @john23232
      @john23232 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed, I was thinking the same, for 1cm more, I am fine with internal

    • @obrys5494
      @obrys5494 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      extrally zooming lenses feel very amateuristic/cheap to me and I'm really worried about dust resistance

    • @sgpork
      @sgpork 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We all can hope. If the iii version of 24-70 and 16-35 are internal zoom and same size as it is now. I would buy them. For now I’m just using prime and the only zoom i have is 70-200. So glad the 70-200 doesnt extends when zoomed. Haha.

  • @stevesvanderpool8653
    @stevesvanderpool8653 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome review!

  • @rickt.8866
    @rickt.8866 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s the Sony 16-35 f4 pz for me!

    • @obrys5494
      @obrys5494 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      love the build quality, features and weight and size of this lens, Canon and Nikon have nothing like that

  • @dwightlooi
    @dwightlooi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The one thing I never understood is the allure of big aperture ultra wide angle lenses.
    Infinity is less than a couple of feet away making background blurring a rare occurrence.
    This is true of a 28 or 25 and is particularly true of a 20 or 16. So why 16/35/2.8 instead of 16-35/4?
    Why lug all the bulk and weight when 95% of the shots are scenery and interiors at infinity?

    • @denizahmet2299
      @denizahmet2299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      because 2.8 is way more usable in low light scenes (lower ISO better image quality, more DR)

    • @iliasxa360
      @iliasxa360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      better AF performance, better low light performance that enables astro photography and hand holding in the dark. Its might be 1 stop but so is the difference between iso3200 and 6400

    • @alexmassengale433
      @alexmassengale433 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The appeal is for people who shoot in lower light, for instance astro, but for many uses I agree. For daylight landscapes or low-light landscapes (other than astro) off a tripod, it is a lot of extra weight and expense.

    • @iliasxa360
      @iliasxa360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but then who's making an UWA lens that has the same sharpness, that's lighter and less expensive?

    • @dwightlooi
      @dwightlooi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iliasxa360 SONY has a 16-35/4 G

  • @timoteiafanasie4894
    @timoteiafanasie4894 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know quality have a price and photographers are in smaller numbers every day, but Sony is out of my reach, and i think out of reach for many more. So... Good job, Sony, keep it up!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There has always been a smaller group that can afford GM lenses, but at the same time it is that group that is less likely to shrink. Photographers like myself are never going to be satisfied with what phone cameras will produce, but owners of entry level cameras might.

    • @timoteiafanasie4894
      @timoteiafanasie4894 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DustinAbbottTWI😂😂😂 i really love your statement. It is bold. I have my arguments, but let's leave it as is.

  • @boristahmasian9604
    @boristahmasian9604 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Dustin, another great video. I like the basketball action shots. Nice real world examples. I am surprised the wide-open corner performance is not better. I have a Tamron 17-28 f2.8 and it performs with similar results perhaps a bit better!! Kudos to Sony for making the GM version 2 lenses lighter in weight.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't think it performs better in the kind of torture test I do here. My tests exaggerate things a bit to allow for more nuanced analysis, and real world results tend to look better.

  • @djxcel23
    @djxcel23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice

  • @ElementaryWatson-123
    @ElementaryWatson-123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing lens, but the price is too high. I hope Sigma will make something similar for half the price.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Sigma 14-24mm F2.8 is a pretty sweet lens.

  • @kevc.2958
    @kevc.2958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    much more expensive than rf1535 and z1424, totally out of reach damn

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hmmm, I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers, but right now the Canon is on sale at B&H for $2099 ($200 less than the Sony), but the normal price is actually $100 higher than Sony. I'm not sure how that qualifies as much more expensive. The Nikon Z 14-24mm costs $2500, $200 more than the Sony.

    • @kevc.2958
      @kevc.2958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DustinAbbottTWI I am from Hong Kong just checked the price has dropped a bit it's us$2100 now,$350 more expensive than the nikon and canon, cheers.