When I got my friends into Commander they didn't have any decks made yet. Fortunately I had like eight or so different decks to choose from, so they could still borrow decks while they're saving money to make their own decks.
True. Not a commander story. When I first started back in '08. My first serious attempt at a constructed was gruul lorwyn elves. That weekend, I decided to try it out on my more experienced friend. To my disappointment , he destroyed me effortlessly. Then we swapped decks. And he destroyed me again with my deck.😂😂😂
@@TripsAhoyback in 2003 when my dad taught me how to play MTG at 10 years old, he gave me his foil Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary (knowing full well it’s financial value and it’d likely get destroyed) to aid in casting high CMC stompy green creatures. I handled/played that card like any 10 year old would: on any mostly flat surface, including concrete. Fast forward 20 years: I still play MTG with my dad on holidays and family gatherings and have since “replaced” the card he effortlessly gave to me as a child with a Beckett 9.5 slabbed foil Rofellos as penance.
I haven't built a paper deck in a year or two but I still have 50+ ready to go. I always thought my cards are more useful in decks than in trade binders or shoe boxes.
@@ian_lambert-knight I constantly build new decks on Arena. Haven't bought new paper cards in years, though. I had to pull the financial emergency brake.
I wasn't a viewer until after the Joe guy left and honestly I just do not enjoy most of the older videos. He would make really weird comments sometimes, sometimes Beezy would seem like he didn't want to be there, and the banter was nowhere near the quality it is with Mia. Idk good riddance I think
if you happen to run out of ideas, a series over almost a year in which you deck tech singularly each one of these decks maybe showing the real paper cards (in order to see the bling and the versions you like) would also be an idea I bet most of the viewers would like
6:07 archfiend if dross is dangerous in jon irenicus. If your opponent dies from the upkeep trigger, the control effect ends and it will return to you, with no oil counters and you will lose at the beginning of your next upkeep.
I have an ashnod, flesh mechanist deck and I love it so much. You get to do stuff every game and powerstones sometimes are sneaky ramp. I goes very well with the ring tempts you mechanic, i put the call of the ring and also the monoblack gollum there.
7:34 surprised you didn't mention willbreaker on here. Same cost as mind flayer, but you can repeatedly tap a creature for 4 mana and steal it at your end step once on each of your turns (Not even including other blink effects like ghostly flicker).
A cool budget card that could go in Vrondiss is Where Ancients Tread for another Warstorm Surge effect. Cool thing is that the enchantment deals the damage, NOT the creature so you wouldn’t lose the dragon token.
I found your beledros deck awhile back and used it as the inspiration for mine. The deck slaps hard. I often find myself sitting around 20 life until suddenly I’m not. Definitely abuses field of the dead but can still do well without it.
I've started introducing 50-dollar uncommon, piloted commander decks into my pod and they stomp. people don't see you as a threat and you sneak in for wins.
Appreciate your perspectives on building. I struggle a lot when it comes to narrowing my focus and cutting cards. Hopefully I can get back to deck building again soon.
Rowan might be sorcery speed but Fire Covenant is NOT. Tap Rowan, then cast Fire Covenant in response before her ability resolves. Then it doesn't matter if they remove her, hell it might be better. If youve got haste enablers you can cast her at reduced price and tap again.
You guys should do a video on how to store your MTG collection. I've tried like 5 different sorting methods and none of them seem to work for me. I have maybe 6-7,000 cards and shoeboxes just don't cut it at this point!
Selvala is my favorite deck. It was the first deck I built designed specifically to win before turn 10. I seem to find new ways to win with it all the time too. It is kind of sneaky in that it looks like it isn't doing anything then on turn like 3 you can just pop off, go infinite and win from almost no board state. The only thing keeping her out of cEDH is other than like Veil of Summer there isn't much counter protection.
@37:06. Poison was so rampant in my pod that I run Leeches, from Homelands, in every deck that can have white. I'm serious. I'll play with 1 dead card in my deck at all times just to deal with the poison people.....
I also have a Wernog/Bjorna deck and it’s focused all on clues. It’s such a fun deck to play. Also, Beezy is right, the mana base for a budget deck actually works really well.
I would be so tempted to upgrade those budget decks :) . Good on you guys, im looking for more budget decks i made and upgraded that Wernog and Bjorna arifact deck, chefs kiss
I have a Narset deck similar to Beezy’s Balmor deck. Still pretty budget at around $60 as I really try to keep all my decks between $50-$100 if I can. The deck has the ability to go off and is so much fun. Never thought I’d have so much fun with a Jeskai deck.
-) Alela: she would benefit of Cloudblazer and Elite Guardmage (both have "ETB: draw 1/2 and gain 2/3 life respectively") -) 28:00 Zeffai just use Feldon and Blightsteel / Darksteel Colossus and all Johiras somehow
First deck was scion of the ur dragon, then trostani, selesnyas voice, and after 10 years, selvala heart of the wilds. Edh wasn't really my cuo of tea at first but I have come to like it now
20+ decks myself all proxied at staples using HD color printers with land backs in sleeves best way to solve the budget problem we were having matching deck power levels
You sleep for jodah im very curious what you think of Ratadrabik (no idea if hes played alot) i have him full of legendary nasties and i made it a boardwhipe tribal deck op top of that. Throw in some token/death trigger doublers and yeehaw
One day I looked down and had over a dozen constructed mostly optimized EDH decks (not including pre cons), and one turbo bays cEDH deck. I would go to sleep daily thinking about possible interactions between cards and be on scryfall all the cracks of my work day… To think that I have half as many decks as peeps who do this FT as their living is, um further consideration that I needed to dial back some. Haven’t built a new EDH deck in months…still love the game tho
How does Kardur close out the game in a 1v1 situation? When you are down to 1v1 goad no longer prevents your opponent from attacking you and so your main strategy no longer does anything.
It doesn't surprise me that your Friends Forever non-green deck was at least partially artifact based. After all, Breya is the "Nephilim" commander from C16 in those colors. I love how you have divided your decks by build budgets. I could never do that myself, if only because I always seem to find a handful of cards that are outside budget that fit my themes. So I cave, and throw out the budget. 🤣🤣🤣
Wand of wanders is super scary for my Grazilaxx deck because it only plays 5 Highimpact sorcerys. Aka clone legion, rite of Replikation (you can still pay for the kicker), inscription of insight and conuming tide. The worst you can hit is spectral deluge if you are non blue
aragorn uniter is commander damage king... I've tried so many voltron styles and I built aragorn as just multicolored matters... and he was my first comander damage KO
Never got around to building my Ramos Door deck the moment he got released. The thing that stopped me is the "Why not just kill with commander damage when you have a dragon that big? Kind of a dick move to just sit there with lethal hits" One of the most brutal graveyard hate card might be Night Soil Yeah, you need 2 creature cards from a graveyard, but it can't be responded to because the exiling is a cost
Sometimes commander damage ends up being a plan with Ramos, but I think the fun is the challenge of hitting people with the door with this deck! If the door gets exiled though, big Dragon beats are plan B 😂
Love the clever names for some of your decks. Surprised you don't have more considering you play all the time and have a channel devoted to mtg. Why do you have some decks with specific prices? Why limit yourself to a $20 yarok deck for example?
She works really well with the top-of-library manipulation like Brainstorm, Brainstone, and Sylvan Library. There's other payoffs for Dargo like Up The Beanstalk that also works well with her
I want to start making more hyper budget builds like you have ($20 and below), they’re super fun to build! Do you have any suggestions for how you find cards to fit that budget and how you make those decks? I think that would be a good video too
I build a good amount of $20 decks and I'll say that one of the first things you have to do is eliminate staples. Despite being printed in every precon and commander set, sol ring is still 1-2 dollars, which is way too expensive. Really consider what your commander is capable of doing, whether it's fast mana or combat damage or tokens or life gain, then use scryfall or edhrec to find cards for less than a dollar that help advance that strategy. Yarok is a good example, just search scryfall for < $1 cards that say "enter the battlefield". Cheap removal and ramp exists, it's just gonna be a bit worse than the premium stuff, but a good strategy can offset even those disadvantages.
How do you count your budget for your deck, because every deck youre doing is always over the price its supposed to be (for example the jon erenicus deck is priced at 51$, not 20$ on moxfield
You have to sign into Moxfield and set your pricing to TCGplayer's. It automatically goes to Card Kingdom if not signed in. Sometimes they're a couple dollars over if cards spike but if they're a ton over, it's usually because people haven't signed in or aren't using tcgplayer prices
That's either an issue with the viewer not being logged in, or every once in a blue moon the seller might change and we just have to switch it back. But 100% of the time our decks conform to the price listed in the title
I could be wrong, but I dooooon’t think Flash of Insight would be counted as a higher mana cost if it’s flashed back? I think it would just be 2 mana 🤔🤔
Ouch. Two decks in and it sounds like Mia is playing is playing Alela wrong. She only makes tokens on cast triggers, not enter the battle triggers. So blinking stuff wouldnt work at all with that commander.
when u say $20 deck like is it 20 dollars with the cheapest printing of every card or the decks actually worth 20. cuz i saw the thumbnail with the game store champion promo, and i won that in 6th grade and it’s like a $7-8 card. so i’m jw promo with $12 worth of cards or $3 commander w $17 worth of cards
The value dudes… 38 decks! i mean i have about 10 and the most expensive one is a bad treefolk (Doran) deck that is about 200 bucks. The rest are precons and slightly improved precon…. The total value of all my cards is 2.5k max… Maybe i should also do youtube… but i don’t have any idea what i should talk about or a subject i know my stuff…
the best part about having friends who play commander is you can share each others decks and the game never gets stale
When I got my friends into Commander they didn't have any decks made yet. Fortunately I had like eight or so different decks to choose from, so they could still borrow decks while they're saving money to make their own decks.
@Robert_Crumb .... my feather deck I bridge shuffle... it's a foil feather that I let my son color on with markers when he was one for custom 🎨
True
True. Not a commander story. When I first started back in '08. My first serious attempt at a constructed was gruul lorwyn elves.
That weekend, I decided to try it out on my more experienced friend. To my disappointment , he destroyed me effortlessly.
Then we swapped decks. And he destroyed me again with my deck.😂😂😂
@@TripsAhoyback in 2003 when my dad taught me how to play MTG at 10 years old, he gave me his foil Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary (knowing full well it’s financial value and it’d likely get destroyed) to aid in casting high CMC stompy green creatures. I handled/played that card like any 10 year old would: on any mostly flat surface, including concrete.
Fast forward 20 years: I still play MTG with my dad on holidays and family gatherings and have since “replaced” the card he effortlessly gave to me as a child with a Beckett 9.5 slabbed foil Rofellos as penance.
Would be really cool to see your decks in paper. Would love for you guys to bring back shuffle scuffle
I haven't built a paper deck in a year or two but I still have 50+ ready to go. I always thought my cards are more useful in decks than in trade binders or shoe boxes.
I don't know if you have built anything recently in paper but I recommend you do. Lots of good commanders over the last 3 years
@@ian_lambert-knight I constantly build new decks on Arena. Haven't bought new paper cards in years, though. I had to pull the financial emergency brake.
You know, when Joe left the channel, I wasn't sure how things were going to go. But Mia has really grown on me and I still love the channel.
Why did Joe leave?
Was that the old hosts name? That guy was trash
The channel is better than ever
I wasn't a viewer until after the Joe guy left and honestly I just do not enjoy most of the older videos. He would make really weird comments sometimes, sometimes Beezy would seem like he didn't want to be there, and the banter was nowhere near the quality it is with Mia. Idk good riddance I think
if you happen to run out of ideas, a series over almost a year in which you deck tech singularly each one of these decks maybe showing the real paper cards (in order to see the bling and the versions you like) would also be an idea I bet most of the viewers would like
I love that the Tocasia running joke will never die.
Unlike Tocasia, who is very much dead
That's enough decks to fill a whole deck's worth of islands
43:10 - You can tap Rowan to get the trigger on the stack, hold priority, then cast the Fire Covenant. There's no window at all :-)
Does mia REALLY not have any decks under 3 colours. Finally i can find out
LOL perhaps, you'll have to see 👀
6:07 archfiend if dross is dangerous in jon irenicus. If your opponent dies from the upkeep trigger, the control effect ends and it will return to you, with no oil counters and you will lose at the beginning of your next upkeep.
There is no effect to end, it gets exiled when the player lose
Great video. Some of the most creative and best deck builders out there.
I have an ashnod, flesh mechanist deck and I love it so much. You get to do stuff every game and powerstones sometimes are sneaky ramp. I goes very well with the ring tempts you mechanic, i put the call of the ring and also the monoblack gollum there.
7:34 surprised you didn't mention willbreaker on here. Same cost as mind flayer, but you can repeatedly tap a creature for 4 mana and steal it at your end step once on each of your turns (Not even including other blink effects like ghostly flicker).
A cool budget card that could go in Vrondiss is Where Ancients Tread for another Warstorm Surge effect. Cool thing is that the enchantment deals the damage, NOT the creature so you wouldn’t lose the dragon token.
I found your beledros deck awhile back and used it as the inspiration for mine. The deck slaps hard. I often find myself sitting around 20 life until suddenly I’m not. Definitely abuses field of the dead but can still do well without it.
I've started introducing 50-dollar uncommon, piloted commander decks into my pod and they stomp. people don't see you as a threat and you sneak in for wins.
I just got back into mtg and EDH has been a lot of fun. Only 4 decks so far. Im not sure if i can afford anymore 😂
Appreciate your perspectives on building. I struggle a lot when it comes to narrowing my focus and cutting cards. Hopefully I can get back to deck building again soon.
Rowan might be sorcery speed but Fire Covenant is NOT.
Tap Rowan, then cast Fire Covenant in response before her ability resolves.
Then it doesn't matter if they remove her, hell it might be better. If youve got haste enablers you can cast her at reduced price and tap again.
I'll keep this in mind, thank you!
Cookie dough is for sure a banger ice cream, good choice good choice
Right??
You guys should do a video on how to store your MTG collection. I've tried like 5 different sorting methods and none of them seem to work for me. I have maybe 6-7,000 cards and shoeboxes just don't cut it at this point!
are all these decklists on your moxfield? was trying to find the Alela
Selvala is my favorite deck. It was the first deck I built designed specifically to win before turn 10. I seem to find new ways to win with it all the time too. It is kind of sneaky in that it looks like it isn't doing anything then on turn like 3 you can just pop off, go infinite and win from almost no board state. The only thing keeping her out of cEDH is other than like Veil of Summer there isn't much counter protection.
Omgosh! I have 38 decks too. No lie!!!
@37:06. Poison was so rampant in my pod that I run Leeches, from Homelands, in every deck that can have white. I'm serious. I'll play with 1 dead card in my deck at all times just to deal with the poison people.....
I also have a Wernog/Bjorna deck and it’s focused all on clues. It’s such a fun deck to play. Also, Beezy is right, the mana base for a budget deck actually works really well.
I would be so tempted to upgrade those budget decks :) . Good on you guys, im looking for more budget decks i made and upgraded that Wernog and Bjorna arifact deck, chefs kiss
I have a Narset deck similar to Beezy’s Balmor deck. Still pretty budget at around $60 as I really try to keep all my decks between $50-$100 if I can. The deck has the ability to go off and is so much fun. Never thought I’d have so much fun with a Jeskai deck.
can you guys post all the decklists?
-) Alela: she would benefit of Cloudblazer and Elite Guardmage (both have "ETB: draw 1/2 and gain 2/3 life respectively")
-) 28:00 Zeffai just use Feldon and Blightsteel / Darksteel Colossus and all Johiras somehow
Been waiting for this video ever since Mia joined!
First deck was scion of the ur dragon, then trostani, selesnyas voice, and after 10 years, selvala heart of the wilds. Edh wasn't really my cuo of tea at first but I have come to like it now
20+ decks myself all proxied at staples using HD color printers with land backs in sleeves best way to solve the budget problem we were having matching deck power levels
You sleep for jodah im very curious what you think of Ratadrabik (no idea if hes played alot) i have him full of legendary nasties and i made it a boardwhipe tribal deck op top of that. Throw in some token/death trigger doublers and yeehaw
I currently own 48 commander decks in paper sleeved and in deck boxes. I think I might have a problem.
One day I looked down and had over a dozen constructed mostly optimized EDH decks (not including pre cons), and one turbo bays cEDH deck. I would go to sleep daily thinking about possible interactions between cards and be on scryfall all the cracks of my work day…
To think that I have half as many decks as peeps who do this FT as their living is, um further consideration that I needed to dial back some.
Haven’t built a new EDH deck in months…still love the game tho
Love all the budget idea decks!!!
How does Kardur close out the game in a 1v1 situation? When you are down to 1v1 goad no longer prevents your opponent from attacking you and so your main strategy no longer does anything.
"What do you do if the angel is exiled"
Sounds like a job for Rift Sweeper
Life of the Party is severely underrated!
I’m gonna be at pax unplugged this weekend I hope to run into you guys and hopefully jam a game or 2!! These decks look awesome
We'll be there all three days, definitely stop us for a game!
It doesn't surprise me that your Friends Forever non-green deck was at least partially artifact based. After all, Breya is the "Nephilim" commander from C16 in those colors.
I love how you have divided your decks by build budgets. I could never do that myself, if only because I always seem to find a handful of cards that are outside budget that fit my themes. So I cave, and throw out the budget. 🤣🤣🤣
Wand of wanders is super scary for my Grazilaxx deck because it only plays 5 Highimpact sorcerys. Aka clone legion, rite of Replikation (you can still pay for the kicker), inscription of insight and conuming tide. The worst you can hit is spectral deluge if you are non blue
Wow, I only have 43 decks myself, and am in the process of building 3 more!
Do you guys have a deck list
Funny; Brisela (and Marit Lage) are the cards that got me into MtG.
I have a pauper edh Fynn the fangbearer deck and it kills people turn 4 if they dont block
Awesome decks! Hope I get to play against some of those decks at magicon Vegas next year!
Cookie dough is the best ice cream
IKR
Where is that Baeloth deck list?
Two great video in a row!
I've too around 10 super weird cool decks. I like to build them in my free time
aragorn uniter is commander damage king... I've tried so many voltron styles and I built aragorn as just multicolored matters... and he was my first comander damage KO
Do you have decklists?!
Deck lists on moxfield?
You bet!
@@NitpickingNerds yay
I too….love sleeping in as late as possible.
I'm being won over on trying out an Oskar deck eventually because of how many times it's played up on here.
Ok on catching anything I get but where is Cherries? I actually don’t know
I have over 40 commander decks on my own, though I have been playing magic for 26 years lol
I wish alela was etb for those things. It's cast trigger, otherwise it would be broken.
Never got around to building my Ramos Door deck the moment he got released. The thing that stopped me is the "Why not just kill with commander damage when you have a dragon that big? Kind of a dick move to just sit there with lethal hits"
One of the most brutal graveyard hate card might be Night Soil
Yeah, you need 2 creature cards from a graveyard, but it can't be responded to because the exiling is a cost
Sometimes commander damage ends up being a plan with Ramos, but I think the fun is the challenge of hitting people with the door with this deck! If the door gets exiled though, big Dragon beats are plan B 😂
Love the clever names for some of your decks. Surprised you don't have more considering you play all the time and have a channel devoted to mtg. Why do you have some decks with specific prices? Why limit yourself to a $20 yarok deck for example?
Always been a fan of Brudi-rad, what changes have you done to it recently?
Could someone explain how Kydele benefits off of cascade? Or is she there just for Simic color
She works really well with the top-of-library manipulation like Brainstorm, Brainstone, and Sylvan Library. There's other payoffs for Dargo like Up The Beanstalk that also works well with her
Thank you! @@NitpickingNerds
You need to make a bracket and then have all these decks face off against each other till one remains. GO
That would be the coolest
I want to start making more hyper budget builds like you have ($20 and below), they’re super fun to build! Do you have any suggestions for how you find cards to fit that budget and how you make those decks? I think that would be a good video too
I build a good amount of $20 decks and I'll say that one of the first things you have to do is eliminate staples. Despite being printed in every precon and commander set, sol ring is still 1-2 dollars, which is way too expensive. Really consider what your commander is capable of doing, whether it's fast mana or combat damage or tokens or life gain, then use scryfall or edhrec to find cards for less than a dollar that help advance that strategy. Yarok is a good example, just search scryfall for < $1 cards that say "enter the battlefield". Cheap removal and ramp exists, it's just gonna be a bit worse than the premium stuff, but a good strategy can offset even those disadvantages.
Moxfield ad is obviously after deck number 13, that’s my guess.
So excited I am coming to pax unplugged this weekend. Hope you have space for Karn, living Legacy😎.
We'd love to jam a game!
I don’t know if it’s taboo or not but what happened to the other guy?
I finished my 49th deck today.
I want to make my 50th extra special.
Thinking master multiplied but open to suggestions.
Make it a 50$ dollar budget deck
If you want something kinda unique and fun make grixis ninjas with rogrhka and Silas. Lots of fun shenanigans with that
I'm 99% sure the answer is yes, but when it comes to field of the dead, a plains and a snow covered plains count as different named lands, right?
Yes, they do!
How do you count your budget for your deck, because every deck youre doing is always over the price its supposed to be (for example the jon erenicus deck is priced at 51$, not 20$ on moxfield
You have to sign into Moxfield and set your pricing to TCGplayer's. It automatically goes to Card Kingdom if not signed in. Sometimes they're a couple dollars over if cards spike but if they're a ton over, it's usually because people haven't signed in or aren't using tcgplayer prices
That's either an issue with the viewer not being logged in, or every once in a blue moon the seller might change and we just have to switch it back. But 100% of the time our decks conform to the price listed in the title
@@NitpickingNerds okok thanks I was wandering that for a while!
Ive made alot of decks and none of them ever get below 40$ idk how you guys get down to 20$😅
No decklist?
I might have missed it, but are all of these on moxfield?
check description
Man, I really need to get int budget again. I always build cheap decks and then I enjoy them so much that I start adding cheap reprints. :D
We got a bunch of our friends to also keep 20s so it keeps us all honest!
I could be wrong, but I dooooon’t think Flash of Insight would be counted as a higher mana cost if it’s flashed back? I think it would just be 2 mana 🤔🤔
It’s a really weird ruling that I had to spend over an hour looking up but I’m 99.999% sure it works
Only 38 between you both?? 😆
Can yall post yall moxfield profiles pls
All of our decks are on www.moxfield.com/users/Nitpicking_Nerds
I got a bunch of commander decks... precons and some made of lists from online.... don't know how to even play them all.... help😂
Did I miss Baeloth Barrityl?
Yo... Mia is... a true Spike it seems! love it =D
Surrak Dino caller is my favourite modern deck to haste in ghalta on turn 3-4 😝🥰
I'm guessing after the 32nd deck
I have over 100 built decks and i feel like there isnt alot sometimes.
I'm a little late to this video. But I also like sleeping in as late as possible and cookie dough ice cream.
that ojutai deck is hilarious
Ouch. Two decks in and it sounds like Mia is playing is playing Alela wrong.
She only makes tokens on cast triggers, not enter the battle triggers. So blinking stuff wouldnt work at all with that commander.
On a second listen, she did say it wrong, but explained it correctly as bouncing to hand to recast
Yeah my dumb azz got all excited when building alela, about casting divine visitation for an angel. Dont work that way 😭
Selvala is a cedh deck
when u say $20 deck like is it 20 dollars with the cheapest printing of every card or the decks actually worth 20. cuz i saw the thumbnail with the game store champion promo, and i won that in 6th grade and it’s like a $7-8 card. so i’m jw promo with $12 worth of cards or $3 commander w $17 worth of cards
I would love to see Mia's Jon Irenicus decklist. :)
Why does it look like Beezy is wearing rouge? 😅
I miss the passive aggressive arguments with Joe 😂
Yes yes yes 🎉😮
38 decks between 2 people is.. crazy
Are they all in paper??
Yep, you can see them in the thumbnail!
I mean... I have 24 as one person... most of mine are jankier than theirs ...I wanted one for every color combo when I started...
38 decks, and yet somehow not one of them floods the board with goblins.
Y'think you know a pair of content creators.
Use the code
Nerd
I just finished #82 on the road to 100
I have a solo total of 38 edh decks 😅😅
The value dudes… 38 decks!
i mean i have about 10 and the most expensive one is a bad treefolk (Doran) deck that is about 200 bucks. The rest are precons and slightly improved precon…. The total value of all my cards is 2.5k max… Maybe i should also do youtube… but i don’t have any idea what i should talk about or a subject i know my stuff…