I feel like the fact that TWO of his girlfriends had suspicious deaths should’ve been enough to look into their deaths again. It’s so sad for their families
They could still stalk you and try to attack you later for being angry for leaving them without an explanation. But ya, it’s still safer nonetheless. Best thing would be to move, change ur #, and stay off social media for a while so when u do finally ghost them, they can’t stalk you and attack u later.
My kids hear, "Shanna shaa", they all perk up and join in, adding, "heavy on my noggin", before darting away, giggling. They don't watch with me yet, but they know who you are and when I'm watching you. Lol We love you, Bailey!
My 7 yr old daughter who has some different interests 😂. She slid up beside me while I'm cleaning baseboards and said " Why did you make that quiet? I wanted to hear" 👀😳 Ma'am I don't need you to hear this your 🧠 is not mature enough to process the information in a healthy way. I only listen when I am alone, but she is scary sneaky I don't need you to hear about a man making a skin suit out of ladies😳
@cierraallen9288 You, too? Mine are 16, 12, and 7. All girls. And all of them keep asking when they're old enough to watch. My eldest watches dark history with me, now.
Absolutely. When I finally had the courage to kick out my last horrible boyfriend, I had the locks changed immediately and planned to call police if there was a problem.
@@m00nk1nlucky. I had to be stalked and harassed. Then he tried to appeal an INDEFINITE RO in court. Re traumatized. I’m still recovering 2 years later.
Wanna say ty for continuously highlighting the ignorance, negligence, half-assed-ness, corruption, and lack of appropriate funds/training of police forces all over the world Bailey! Stories like this grind my gears so badly. Looking at this case from the outside it's SO OBVIOUS that he killed Pheobe and Bailey!
I've been saying it for years but I'm called crazy. I agree with this comment 💯 they fail her in this case so bad!! Even the retired detective her grandpa said oh no this doesn't smell right at all
My dad always said to never automatically trust preachers' kids & lawyers' kids, because they've probably gotten away with a lot more than anyone knows. I think that probably goes for judges' kids too. Ant definitely seems like the "you can't arrest me, my dad's a lawyer" type.
@@LuLu-pe2li Two of my bestest friends from childhood till recent (I will be 40 this year) are Pastors Daughters and Lord have mercy they were some of my most mischievous friends hands down. They grew out of that phase around our 20s and have gone on to do some amazing things with their life, but throughout our childhood these girls were always wild
oh no! The police accidentally botched an investigation in the death of the judges' son's girlfriend, then couldn't even get their stories straight with the coroner? Welp, nothing to see here, just another hard day of serving and protecting!
If they cant prove how a deeply intoxicated person could get in the shute to begin with(when a nonintoxicated person couldnt), then it should be assumed that there is foul play. Corrupt corrupt corrupt!
The first thing that crossed my mind in regards to the belt, is that she was trying to take her own belt off to tie around her amputated foot to stop the bleeding. Like she was trying to get her belt off to save herself, but got too weak and couldn't get it off 😔
I had a similar thought, like her leg was trapped in the garbage bin and tried to get out of her pants to free herself. The other option, that someone did something unspeakable to her body, is too awful 😢
That was my immediate thought as soon as I heard this. She was trying to save herself and wasn’t fast enough. Clear evidence she didn’t do this to herself.
@pmbp6584 She mentioned that she had bruises on her neck, I wonder if he tried to strangle her, thought she was dead, and then tried to dump her body. 🤔
I'm thinking the pants got caught on things on the way down, like screws or pieces of metal, especially since garbage chutes get blocked from time to time. And a tourniquet with the belt was my first thought there.
Im an Aussie and you have introduced me to this case - I cannot believe I had never heard of Phoebe until now! So horrific. Thank you for sharing her story.
Fellow Aussie - I am so sad that so many people haven’t heard this , I too never knew of Phoebe’s case. If there was more media attention maybe it would’ve put pressure on our ridiculous justice system who failed her and her loved ones😢
The text Ant sent to her grandmother sounded way too similar in cadence to the one Phoebe supposedly sent to her family members… I found that super suspicious
I thought that too! "Phoebe's" text talked about going to sleep and transforming, and then Ant texts that she was a beast before and is now sleeping beauty. As in a transformation. Dudes parents put alot of money into getting that investigation botched. "Justice" system? More like justice for the rich and powerful system.
I’m kinda in that situation now. Keep breaking up he leaves he comes back we start the cycle over. It’s not happy but I’m so afraid of being alone. I’m ashamed of myself for it and don’t tell many people but y’all don’t know me.
@@jameshopkins503 I’m sorry. I know you’ve probably heard it before & I’m speaking for experience…. IT WILL GET WORSE. Try to work on yourself even if you can’t leave him yet. Once you work on your own self esteem and find your own value it will be better for you to leave. It will get worse.
In regards to the belt, it's possible she tried to take it off and make a tourniquet for her foot that was bleeding heavily. It's possible her pants were stuck and she was trying to remove them and could be why they were pulled down. Another thing I can think of in regards to the belt and sunglasses is that she was getting ready (hence the plugged in hair straightener) and was going to leave when he attacked her and is why her belt was only partially looped and straightener was on the floor. Either way, SO SAD. May she rest in peace.
I had the exact same thought about the belt and her trying to take it off to stop the bleeding maybe! I think she was unconscious when *someone* (lookin at you Ant) put her in the shoot and her foot getting severed jolted her awake and in her intoxicated and blood loss haze, she tried to get her pants off and use the belt but bled out before she could.
The makeup! How do you do it Bailey?? When that first blob of black eye shadow hit the screen, I thought oh boy how is this gonna work!? And it does! You're an amazing artist! 😍
That was my thought! How could anyone smear black blobs around their eyes and turn it into a masterpiece? She always pulls it off. And I'm always in awe 😮
If I worked at a residence where a body was found at the bottom of a bin Shute, you best believe myself and the colleagues would be checking the cctv. That's the WEIRDEST part to me.
@@katherineferrer2634A lot of people who use straighteners get very worried if they're turned off or not as they're a serious fire hazard; so for them to be on on the floor - that's just not something someone who uses them regularly would do.
48:03 the reason the guy was talking to the woman and bringing gifts was to manipulate her memories and thoughts. Memories are malleable and easily manipulated. He repeated the same thing over and over to give her memories and thoughts that would interfere and intertwine with her memory of what really happened. So if she’s interviewed by cops, or the press, or family members…..she’d be more likely to bring up the “fact” that the victim had depression, didn’t want to be saved, and her boyfriend tried everything he could to help. Fun and disturbing fact : every time you think about a memory, you’re remembering the last time you thought about it. This means if you had random thoughts during that time remembering, they could be incorporated into your memory next time you think about it. Say you went on a date with a guy to the beach, you’re reminiscing about it and during that time you think about how funny it would had been if he slipped and fell into the beach dirt because some dog had made holes while being walked. You imagine it in your mind. Two years later you start telling people about how your current partner fell during your date yet your partner has no memory of it. It’s because it never actually happened you imagined it and now you somehow have memories of it. That is a real phenomenon with memories, it’s happened to me. I wouldn’t have known it had that specific memory not been recorded by friends. Be careful when speaking to cops who already think you’re guilty too, they’ll psychologically manipulate you into tripping over your words and getting things wrong. Then point that out as proof you’re lying and can’t be trusted.
Something very similar happened in my city Regina, Saskatchewan Canada. A women had fallen down the laundry chute at a Delta hotel........police ruled her death as an accident and no one else was involved. But there was no physical way she could've gotten into the chute, without assistance. The hotel also didn't call police until hours after she was found. There was so much wrong with how they handled that case 😢 Because the woman was indigenous, there's a lot of speculation about discrimination and racism as well. Just awful
There's a lady in our town that's on her 4th husband. The first 3 all died of the same thing, and this one got sick but survived. And nobody has put it together, but it's super suspicious to me
I can’t get over the bottle of wine guy… I feel like he might be involved more because why would he be hanging around and looking for answers… like maybe he stopped by the place while Ant was at work and took advantage of how intoxicated Phoebe was?
Rite like he was either guilty himself and thought that if he got close to the only witness to see what they knew orrr ant killed her out of jealousy and her was trying to get more information to make sure he went to prison
@@xoxo_kailani probably not paid off... probably threatened. If you do xyz we will release this about you. Australian corruption often relies on standover tactics and threats rather than paying people off 😂😂
The way Phoebe and Bailey are both described before, then afterwards as really different - reserved, withdrawn, and secretive are classic signs of being in an abusive relationship. My heart goes out to both women's families and all their loved ones. 💔🙏
I think you can do a Dark History on the mysteries behind the death of Marilyn Monroe. That would be awesome. Or maybe the mysteries surrounding the death of celebrities in general. Love your videos!!
Why in the world did the cops drop the ball so badly!!!??? Also the boyfriend’s dad signing Phoebe’s retirement paperwork and adding information that was not true is so annoying. Once again having money and power really pays off.
I don't think they dropped the ball, I think they were directed to omit evidence. Like how would they know there were 2 different DNA samples in the blood and not do follow-up tests?
Probably paid that one friend of his who kept going back to the apartment to talk to the concierge about the incident. The one they told not to come back again. He seems suspish enough.
My theory, assuming that I understood everything Bailey said, is that it started out as a guest she let in that was likely closer to Ant. No forced entry and the other glass. Ant would be elsewhere to establish the alibi. Loaded with money=murder for hire. Beat her unconscious (for the blood splatters) and then dragged her and threw her into the disposal which took some muscles. They knew how to play the building management with that footage, and that’s so irritating. They just dumped her to die. She suffered so much in her final hours.
I’m going to school to be a counselor and the fact that Phoebe expressed that she did not feel safe to her therapist and they did nothing makes my blood BOIL. 😢
Yes they could of downloaded the videos. Also, if it was me working in that security room, I would've been nosey and watched it myself to see what happened!
Maybe they couldn't? I DK it seems like the only reasonable explanation especially considering the guy cared enough to call the police and let them know They needed to get the footage as soon as possible. My only thought is maybe they couldn't do it but stuck with me for a really really long time too, so I'm glad you pointed it out.
I know the case is ongoing.. but can we get a video on Aubreigh Wyatt?!?! PLEASE!!🙏🏼 this poor girl took her own life and the bullies live freely cause of the conflict of interest of their parents!! It’s a sickening story and the world HAS TO KNOW ABOUT IT!!
Memory is very susceptible to being altered. I find it so sus that the work friend went to speak various times with the person who found her body and will have had to recount what happened. Stinks like him trying to subtly alter her memory so that she recounts it differently without realising.
I work in payroll (in Australia) and when an employee passes away unexpectedly the funds owed to them could sit in an account for literally YEARS until we hear from the employee’s executor of estate/lawyer with instructions on where to transfer the funds. These are the laws in Australia, not sure if it’s the same everywhere else so it’s super suspicious that Ant would be trying to get the superannuation fund so quickly when the process usually takes months and months.
@@cathdl there are many aspects that need to be addressed in miscarriages of justice. In this instance, you could argue that it happened because of the lack of police investigation, or the fact that Hampel has a powerful and well respected family, or both. Sometimes in situations its not all just black and white. You need to zoom out and analyse the entire thing rather than focusing on if it was a miscarriage, but why? What happened leading up to it? Theres so many things to be debated and discussed.
They need to reopen and investigate. This guy needs to be tailed for the rest of his life so he knows he can't make any moves without being watched. He will loose his ever-loving-mind.
Also I need a movie made about this, like one of those 70s things with an information at the beginning that this is true story. Different country, names, whatever, people will find out. They should find out about every minute of her suffering caused by this mf
there’s no way someone “accidentally” falls into that garbage chute at the correct perfect angle for it to actually fully shut with them in it.. chills man
This is one I think about all the time…from the bizarre way Phoebe was found to the fact that Baillee, his other girlfriend died in a bizarre way as well is just very sad. To have two women you’re dating go like that raises red flags for me.
@@lechieloo1 I'm so happy to hear that. It's sad to say that a lot of our issues may get better with the oldies just being aged out of power. Also, raising sons (children) to do better, be better.
@@darkydoom I agree! I have 3 boys and we talk alot about how to respect and appreciate both ourselves and others. I have medical issues and it’s a great learning opportunity for them. They have compassion, empathy and love for others. They are comfortable asking questions and listening and understanding a women’s perspective. My 10YO son asked me to explain what women’s periods are, what they go through and how he as a male can support his partner when he is older. It totally blew my mind. It shows a level of empathy and respect that is so far beyond the level that some grown men have.
I have been watching you since you were in your platinum blonde era and I have been saying “she needs to do the phoebe handsjuk case” and this upload had made my whole life!!!!!!!!! 💞💞💞💞💞
There is no waiting period to report a missing person but a lot of times they do not take it seriously until 48 hours, I hear that a lot watching shows.
Exactly! Circumstantial but still the police should have caught. DNA under her nails, he didn't call the police after he found the apartment in that state, there was so much linking him to the crime.
This case has always fascinated me. Utterly bizarre...I couldn't believe it a few years later when i read what had happened a subsequent girlfriend. Appalling! There's an excellent Australian doc about it; they have a young woman the exact height, build etc as Phoebe, a gymnast, far more limber & physically strong than most, & they try to recreate an accidental or even deliberate, 'suicidal' fall into the bin chute. It shows that it simply isn't possible without some really difficult, & concentrated, very athletic contortions let alone if you were full of alcohol. The only way she manages to successfully get into it finally is head first not feet first!
@@Gothmogirl_666 don't remember, maybe a 60 Minutes one...i've looked & there are a few but I'd have to look through each to see which one has the reconstruction
I just lost my mom to a suspish car accident. Stories like this help me not lose my mind while fighting the police. It helps to know if I'm persistent maybe I'll eventually get some answers. Thank you for the, hope Bailey ❤
one of the most infuriating parts of this story (and many others) is the dismissiveness, negligence and downright incompetence of police. The amount of women who could be alive if they did their jobs properly...
113,000 for living with a partner?... the father/judge needs to be fired/arrested for lying... it's called fraud... the son sounds guilty AF and needs to be investigated!,,, geez
I can’t tell you how excited I get when I see a new story that I’ve never heard before that you cover - you are one of the biggest people to get me into true crime
I just realized the reason my 2 year old loves you it’s because you say “Hi friends” at the start of the videos just like Ms Rachel‼️🤯🤯🤯 every time I put u on he would stop whatever he’s doing and run to the tv, he’ll watch like 15 minutes or so then run off again😂😂😂😂
That might explain why my baby also loves baileys intros. Granted mine and her TH-cam are the same so it literally is a mix of Ms. Rachel and Bailey 😂 several times I’ve left her with Ms. Rachel and she has figured out how to change it to Bailey
How was I asked TWICE to continue due to content? Seriously, I have watched Bailey for YEARS and NOW yall are asking me if I want to continue? Lol Hon, Bailey is Family at this point. ❤ You Bae!!!
it’s so sad that there is such evil in the world to point where not even the ones who are supposed to handle these cases can’t even do their job, like who are you supposed to help you in this world?
I’ll be watching this later but wanted to say thank you for picking Phoebe Handsjuk’s case, I heard her story years ago and still think about her and his next girlfriend all the time
Phoebe's story is one of the first stories I heard that got me into true crime. Her story is very sad and I still think about her and what she must have went thru.
you can literally see what ant is doing today and it makes me sick ... :( he literally has a website and its 100% obvious that he paid someone to do that to phoebe
Bailey I just had to complement you on your skin , it looks so beautiful I thought you already had your base on until I watched you put it on . Whatever you’re doing girl I wanna know because your skin is absolutely gorgeous!
Not sure if I’m looking in the wrong place but as I love the makeup part just as much as the true crime I always like to read what you’ve used but I can’t see a description box here. 😢😢 what did you use cos that eye look is beaut! 🖤
I’m a 911 operator in a major city. I take missing persons calls multiple times per shift and enter them into NCIC. We do not limit these calls based on time. Missing is missing. PD is sent to talk to the caller to take a report regardless.
Maybe where you live. Where I live they don’t even come when someone is threatening you and has a gun. Happened to a friend this weekend. She called me and I was on the phone with her for hours while be beat her door and then stood so she could see her door and balcony for hours. She and her kids hid in the closet for hours. Called the cops 4 times and they never showed up. We’ve seen parents on the news because the cops didn’t come or wouldn’t let them file a missing persons report because of the missing person being a teenager. It’s a big problem here in the DFW area of Texas.
So glad you did this case! Stephanie Harlowe did a deep dive on this case, I have been emotionally attached ever since, I think he killed her 😢 poor Phoebe
Pls pls plsss do a video on Madeline McCann!! This is a case I have wanted to go down the rabbit hole many times but just can’t seem to find any reliable information. Couldn’t trust anybody else to do it but you!🩷🖤
I don’t know if it was already answered, but we have 911 because at the time it was created, you had to dial 9 (if I remember correctly) to connect to a line and the 11 was the fastest two numbers with a rotary. Something like that, and super vague lol
This is so sad! Justice needs to be served!!! I didn’t even know about this story I am Aussie from Melbourne in Australia. It sounds like she was such a beautiful person from what Bailey had said. Rest easy phoebe! 💖
hey bailey!! i just wanted to say that your videos have helped me when i’m in a stressful time. example, when i feel like the world is crumbling i grab my phone and put on some bailey sarian. thank you so much for literally just existing 💕💕
Aussie here! Highly recommend the podcast "Phoebe's Fall" if you want to know more details about this case. So sad. I was emptying garbage in an apartment just down the road from the Balencea and thought of Phoebe 😞 BTW there is NO WAY a person could get in one of those chutes alone.
it just occurred to me that you've been doing these videos for years and yet there are still so many stories to tell, it's terrifying
and then you realize that there are thousands of channels that have done hundreds of videos, and there are STILL cases that have no coverage 😭😭😭😭😭
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so so so terrifying!
@@minxiemiauYep! That thought crosses my mind when watching these.
I've been thinking the same thing and just to think of all the other TH-camrs that tell about crimes. It just shows what kind of monsters people are
I feel like the fact that TWO of his girlfriends had suspicious deaths should’ve been enough to look into their deaths again. It’s so sad for their families
Exactly. He seems to be bouncing around a little bit, maybe that's a loop? 🧐
His parents both being judges, made me instantly wonder what else he’s guilty of that they’ve covered it up.
LIKE WHAT ARE THEY THINKING! This 😅a so slimy I don’t believe it
@@VLM1313he’s an entitled brat . My heart goes out to her family.
So so sad. Two things-what is wrong with the Melbourne police??? Ignorance? In somebody’s pocket. The whole thing is revolting.
Crime shows have taught me sometimes ghosting people is the safest option
@@ShastaTravels Facts
And also that it's never to early to talk to your kids about the danger of this world .
They could still stalk you and try to attack you later for being angry for leaving them without an explanation. But ya, it’s still safer nonetheless. Best thing would be to move, change ur #, and stay off social media for a while so when u do finally ghost them, they can’t stalk you and attack u later.
@@kayleigh3648 Very smart!
@@kayleigh3648I like your thinking!
My kids hear, "Shanna shaa", they all perk up and join in, adding, "heavy on my noggin", before darting away, giggling. They don't watch with me yet, but they know who you are and when I'm watching you. Lol We love you, Bailey!
😂😂😂😂
😂love this 😅
My name is Shanna so I feel like she’s singing directly to me 😂
My 7 yr old daughter who has some different interests 😂. She slid up beside me while I'm cleaning baseboards and said " Why did you make that quiet? I wanted to hear" 👀😳 Ma'am I don't need you to hear this your 🧠 is not mature enough to process the information in a healthy way. I only listen when I am alone, but she is scary sneaky I don't need you to hear about a man making a skin suit out of ladies😳
@cierraallen9288 You, too? Mine are 16, 12, and 7. All girls. And all of them keep asking when they're old enough to watch. My eldest watches dark history with me, now.
if these stories tell us one thing it's that the most dangerous situation for a woman is the moment she's ready to leave her abuser.
Absolutely. When I finally had the courage to kick out my last horrible boyfriend, I had the locks changed immediately and planned to call police if there was a problem.
Yes if i remember it takes an average of 6 times leaving before they get out, if they get out alive.
yes! also never end things face to face or without someone else present especially if it was a toxic/abusive relationship
And the six months after you leave.
@@m00nk1nlucky. I had to be stalked and harassed. Then he tried to appeal an INDEFINITE RO in court. Re traumatized. I’m still recovering 2 years later.
From the moment you said 2 judges as parents. I unfortunately knew she & her family wouldn’t get justice. ☹️
Yeah when I heard that I was like oh boy…
FACTS!!! 😡😢
Yep
Exactly
Why is that?
Wanna say ty for continuously highlighting the ignorance, negligence, half-assed-ness, corruption, and lack of appropriate funds/training of police forces all over the world Bailey! Stories like this grind my gears so badly. Looking at this case from the outside it's SO OBVIOUS that he killed Pheobe and Bailey!
I've been saying it for years but I'm called crazy. I agree with this comment 💯 they fail her in this case so bad!! Even the retired detective her grandpa said oh no this doesn't smell right at all
Him ordering food from the golden triangle is honestly a huge red flag.
And disrespectful
I thought the same thing, like that was a huge f u to her, like a last one over her 😔
My dad always said to never automatically trust preachers' kids & lawyers' kids, because they've probably gotten away with a lot more than anyone knows. I think that probably goes for judges' kids too. Ant definitely seems like the "you can't arrest me, my dad's a lawyer" type.
As a PK, I can confirm
What cop would want to incriminate the child of a County Court judge and stepchild of a Supreme Court judge? 😅
Why preachers kids?
@@LuLu-pe2li Two of my bestest friends from childhood till recent (I will be 40 this year) are Pastors Daughters and Lord have mercy they were some of my most mischievous friends hands down. They grew out of that phase around our 20s and have gone on to do some amazing things with their life, but throughout our childhood these girls were always wild
Judges are lawyers, so yes.
oh no! The police accidentally botched an investigation in the death of the judges' son's girlfriend, then couldn't even get their stories straight with the coroner? Welp, nothing to see here, just another hard day of serving and protecting!
Not even that, its def suspish since he is a judge's son, but are we realky surprised that the police have failed a woman again?
"accidentally" 😂
I personally hate mystery cases because there is no closure but I listen to it because it’s Bailey❤️and I love watching her videos
Can you do a brown look??? Like brown eyeshadow, liner, mascara, and lips?? I think it would look so pretty and really make your eyes pop!
Yeasssssss
If they cant prove how a deeply intoxicated person could get in the shute to begin with(when a nonintoxicated person couldnt), then it should be assumed that there is foul play. Corrupt corrupt corrupt!
Yes, from her state of clothing, pants down etc. Something went on, then they tried to hide her body
i figured that she probably tried to take her pants off and get away from the thing crushing her legs/ankle @@judygalvez4119
The first thing that crossed my mind in regards to the belt, is that she was trying to take her own belt off to tie around her amputated foot to stop the bleeding. Like she was trying to get her belt off to save herself, but got too weak and couldn't get it off 😔
I had a similar thought, like her leg was trapped in the garbage bin and tried to get out of her pants to free herself. The other option, that someone did something unspeakable to her body, is too awful 😢
@@rebeccamichelin5065either that, or she tried to stop the bleeding with her pants and she wasnt successful.
That was my immediate thought as soon as I heard this. She was trying to save herself and wasn’t fast enough. Clear evidence she didn’t do this to herself.
@pmbp6584 She mentioned that she had bruises on her neck, I wonder if he tried to strangle her, thought she was dead, and then tried to dump her body. 🤔
I'm thinking the pants got caught on things on the way down, like screws or pieces of metal, especially since garbage chutes get blocked from time to time. And a tourniquet with the belt was my first thought there.
Im an Aussie and you have introduced me to this case - I cannot believe I had never heard of Phoebe until now! So horrific. Thank you for sharing her story.
Fellow Aussie - I am so sad that so many people haven’t heard this , I too never knew of Phoebe’s case. If there was more media attention maybe it would’ve put pressure on our ridiculous justice system who failed her and her loved ones😢
The text Ant sent to her grandmother sounded way too similar in cadence to the one Phoebe supposedly sent to her family members… I found that super suspicious
I thought that too! "Phoebe's" text talked about going to sleep and transforming, and then Ant texts that she was a beast before and is now sleeping beauty. As in a transformation. Dudes parents put alot of money into getting that investigation botched. "Justice" system? More like justice for the rich and powerful system.
Yes, this!!
✨s u s p I s h ✨
Yup!
“He always managed to lure her back in, ugh one of *those*” … I felt that in my GUT.
Same here. Ugh, it's so awful.
Me too
Her fault
I’m kinda in that situation now. Keep breaking up he leaves he comes back we start the cycle over. It’s not happy but I’m so afraid of being alone. I’m ashamed of myself for it and don’t tell many people but y’all don’t know me.
@@jameshopkins503 I’m sorry. I know you’ve probably heard it before & I’m speaking for experience…. IT WILL GET WORSE. Try to work on yourself even if you can’t leave him yet. Once you work on your own self esteem and find your own value it will be better for you to leave. It will get worse.
In regards to the belt, it's possible she tried to take it off and make a tourniquet for her foot that was bleeding heavily. It's possible her pants were stuck and she was trying to remove them and could be why they were pulled down. Another thing I can think of in regards to the belt and sunglasses is that she was getting ready (hence the plugged in hair straightener) and was going to leave when he attacked her and is why her belt was only partially looped and straightener was on the floor. Either way, SO SAD. May she rest in peace.
I agree I had the same thought about the pants if she fell she may have been too hurt or disoriented to properly get her pants off.
Yes, I had the same thought also.
Agreed. If she was intoxicated she would have been clumsy & with her blood so thin, she just didn't have time before she bled out.
I had the exact same thought about the belt and her trying to take it off to stop the bleeding maybe! I think she was unconscious when *someone* (lookin at you Ant) put her in the shoot and her foot getting severed jolted her awake and in her intoxicated and blood loss haze, she tried to get her pants off and use the belt but bled out before she could.
I thought that same thing about the belt.
The makeup! How do you do it Bailey?? When that first blob of black eye shadow hit the screen, I thought oh boy how is this gonna work!? And it does! You're an amazing artist! 😍
That was my thought! How could anyone smear black blobs around their eyes and turn it into a masterpiece? She always pulls it off. And I'm always in awe 😮
Seems like he did it or had some twisted friend. Did the friend pay him? Did he pay a friend? Team with no money involved?
If I worked at a residence where a body was found at the bottom of a bin Shute, you best believe myself and the colleagues would be checking the cctv. That's the WEIRDEST part to me.
Right?! As humans, we look! Every emergency scene will show you how much we do, how many cameras and phones get recording?
Yeah that strikes me as odd..
The cameras would have solved this case immediately. The police didn't want to know
It kills me that the hotel guy didn't just download the footage himself. Was he paid off too?
@@MarissaMcConnell that’s what I thought too. Any sane person would go back and look to see, and downloading it also seems like common sense.
And if they weren't going to treat it as a possible homicide, why wouldn't they let the paramedic approach her (possibly) deceased body?
They didn't want to see the evidence because they were paid off
If I was in that situation I would have saved the footage anyways.
Juuuuust in case
Bailey 😂 “if the hair straightener is plugged in and on the ground, you know something went down” so silly, but actually true
I honestly didn’t understand this part 👀 can you explain plss
@@katherineferrer2634A lot of people who use straighteners get very worried if they're turned off or not as they're a serious fire hazard; so for them to be on on the floor - that's just not something someone who uses them regularly would do.
@@RiverDarling ohh that totally went over my head. Thank you!
@@RiverDarling
48:03 the reason the guy was talking to the woman and bringing gifts was to manipulate her memories and thoughts. Memories are malleable and easily manipulated. He repeated the same thing over and over to give her memories and thoughts that would interfere and intertwine with her memory of what really happened. So if she’s interviewed by cops, or the press, or family members…..she’d be more likely to bring up the “fact” that the victim had depression, didn’t want to be saved, and her boyfriend tried everything he could to help.
Fun and disturbing fact : every time you think about a memory, you’re remembering the last time you thought about it. This means if you had random thoughts during that time remembering, they could be incorporated into your memory next time you think about it.
Say you went on a date with a guy to the beach, you’re reminiscing about it and during that time you think about how funny it would had been if he slipped and fell into the beach dirt because some dog had made holes while being walked. You imagine it in your mind. Two years later you start telling people about how your current partner fell during your date yet your partner has no memory of it. It’s because it never actually happened you imagined it and now you somehow have memories of it. That is a real phenomenon with memories, it’s happened to me. I wouldn’t have known it had that specific memory not been recorded by friends.
Be careful when speaking to cops who already think you’re guilty too, they’ll psychologically manipulate you into tripping over your words and getting things wrong. Then point that out as proof you’re lying and can’t be trusted.
I know Bailey isn’t the biggest fan of the theme song anymore but I love when she does it for us anyway. ❤
It’s my favorite. 🖤🥰
There's always a "disagreement" right before a tragic accident or disappearance. 🤔
Yeah, totally doesnt make you seem suspish when your partner is found dead a day+ after a big argument
For sure
What disagreement?
Something very similar happened in my city Regina, Saskatchewan Canada. A women had fallen down the laundry chute at a Delta hotel........police ruled her death as an accident and no one else was involved. But there was no physical way she could've gotten into the chute, without assistance. The hotel also didn't call police until hours after she was found. There was so much wrong with how they handled that case 😢 Because the woman was indigenous, there's a lot of speculation about discrimination and racism as well. Just awful
What was her name? May she RIP 😢
@@parisjones2265 Nadine Machiskinic RIP 💜
That's so sad. Thank you for remembering her.❤
it’s so upsetting how i live in canada and didn’t even know about this case.
@@ifreddiebenson it's disturbing to think of how often things like this happen, and it just gets swept under the rug :(
Been listening to you for over 6 years! Started watching at 14! Now I listen religiously!
There's a lady in our town that's on her 4th husband. The first 3 all died of the same thing, and this one got sick but survived. And nobody has put it together, but it's super suspicious to me
Acquadefana 😂
Who else recites the whole intro with Bailey? The shanasha and *click * noggin are my favorite parts 😂
I'm afraid I do it too. My fiancee knows who I am watching from doing it 😂
Me😊
I was singing it and my fiancé was like ????? 🤣
Shanasha😂
& the outro 😂
It’s so insane how obvious this crime is and once again the cops fumble so many things
I can’t get over the bottle of wine guy… I feel like he might be involved more because why would he be hanging around and looking for answers… like maybe he stopped by the place while Ant was at work and took advantage of how intoxicated Phoebe was?
Rite like he was either guilty himself and thought that if he got close to the only witness to see what they knew orrr ant killed her out of jealousy and her was trying to get more information to make sure he went to prison
This case has bothered me for YEARS! What a horrible way to die and so heartbreaking.
It irks me that management didn’t hold onto that footage anyways, even if only for a few days
Or even view it out of curiosity
Someone was paid off
@@jessiebaatz236yep absolutely they were paid off 😏
@@xoxo_kailani probably not paid off... probably threatened. If you do xyz we will release this about you. Australian corruption often relies on standover tactics and threats rather than paying people off 😂😂
The way Phoebe and Bailey are both described before, then afterwards as really different - reserved, withdrawn, and secretive are classic signs of being in an abusive relationship. My heart goes out to both women's families and all their loved ones. 💔🙏
I think you can do a Dark History on the mysteries behind the death of Marilyn Monroe. That would be awesome. Or maybe the mysteries surrounding the death of celebrities in general. Love your videos!!
I feel like even if the footage wasn't downloaded, the employees would have immediately checked the camera out of curiosity.
Why in the world did the cops drop the ball so badly!!!??? Also the boyfriend’s dad signing Phoebe’s retirement paperwork and adding information that was not true is so annoying. Once again having money and power really pays off.
He def name dropped his parents and they took his story at face value
Right, shouldnt that be conflict of interest?
If cops are gonna do something its drop the ball...
Prolly afraid to go up against Ant’s parents
I don't think they dropped the ball, I think they were directed to omit evidence. Like how would they know there were 2 different DNA samples in the blood and not do follow-up tests?
he so killed her, or paid someone else to do it and then paid the police to cover it up, it's disgusting I hope her family finds some peace
Probably paid that one friend of his who kept going back to the apartment to talk to the concierge about the incident. The one they told not to come back again. He seems suspish enough.
My theory, assuming that I understood everything Bailey said, is that it started out as a guest she let in that was likely closer to Ant. No forced entry and the other glass. Ant would be elsewhere to establish the alibi. Loaded with money=murder for hire. Beat her unconscious (for the blood splatters) and then dragged her and threw her into the disposal which took some muscles. They knew how to play the building management with that footage, and that’s so irritating. They just dumped her to die. She suffered so much in her final hours.
CORRUPT , STAGED, AND PAYED OFF. shame on Australian authorities. Shame on him and his parents.
Funfact bailey. In Australia.. if you hit 911 it gets redirected to 000 .. because the movies have most ppl forgetting its 000 not 911 .. crazy huh
So sick of jerks like Hampel hurting women and getting away with it. Thanks for talking about this case!
The fact that Ant had another girlfriend that killed herself changes everything 😮
I’m going to school to be a counselor and the fact that Phoebe expressed that she did not feel safe to her therapist and they did nothing makes my blood BOIL. 😢
So glad you did this story too! Crime Junkies did it years ago but it has stayed in my mind!!
I know the police should have requested CCTV footage earlier but if you own a building and a crime happens on your premises… JUST SAVE THE FOOTAGE 😭😭😭
This.
100%
That bothered me too! Even if you just work there, download it! Copy it! Something, c’mon!
Yes they could of downloaded the videos. Also, if it was me working in that security room, I would've been nosey and watched it myself to see what happened!
Maybe they couldn't? I DK it seems like the only reasonable explanation especially considering the guy cared enough to call the police and let them know They needed to get the footage as soon as possible. My only thought is maybe they couldn't do it but stuck with me for a really really long time too, so I'm glad you pointed it out.
I just can’t get past how difficult it was to operate the garbage chute. To me, that’s solid evidence.
I know the case is ongoing.. but can we get a video on Aubreigh Wyatt?!?! PLEASE!!🙏🏼 this poor girl took her own life and the bullies live freely cause of the conflict of interest of their parents!! It’s a sickening story and the world HAS TO KNOW ABOUT IT!!
Memory is very susceptible to being altered. I find it so sus that the work friend went to speak various times with the person who found her body and will have had to recount what happened. Stinks like him trying to subtly alter her memory so that she recounts it differently without realising.
I work in payroll (in Australia) and when an employee passes away unexpectedly the funds owed to them could sit in an account for literally YEARS until we hear from the employee’s executor of estate/lawyer with instructions on where to transfer the funds. These are the laws in Australia, not sure if it’s the same everywhere else so it’s super suspicious that Ant would be trying to get the superannuation fund so quickly when the process usually takes months and months.
I learnt about this case in my law degree and the significance of miscarriages of justice. Our class had a massive debate about Hampel.
Wow!
How is there any debate to have? It’s 100% a miscarriage of justice 😩
@cathdl you've never taken any law classes have you lol it's much more complicated than that , for better or for worse
@@cathdl there are many aspects that need to be addressed in miscarriages of justice. In this instance, you could argue that it happened because of the lack of police investigation, or the fact that Hampel has a powerful and well respected family, or both. Sometimes in situations its not all just black and white. You need to zoom out and analyse the entire thing rather than focusing on if it was a miscarriage, but why? What happened leading up to it? Theres so many things to be debated and discussed.
I have been watching you for years and years, you have such empathy for the victims.
I binged watched all the MMM playlist then I took a break for a few months to build up more videos to binge lol glad to be back I missed you Bailey! ❤
the way there was literally blood on the computer/keyboard and Ant STILL didn’t think calling the police was necessary 🤨 that’s FISHY
They need to reopen and investigate. This guy needs to be tailed for the rest of his life so he knows he can't make any moves without being watched. He will loose his ever-loving-mind.
Also I need a movie made about this, like one of those 70s things with an information at the beginning that this is true story. Different country, names, whatever, people will find out. They should find out about every minute of her suffering caused by this mf
there’s no way someone “accidentally” falls into that garbage chute at the correct perfect angle for it to actually fully shut with them in it.. chills man
Why would her grandma tell her that, I truly believe that abusers, gaslighters/ and manipulative people do not deserve closure
This is one I think about all the time…from the bizarre way Phoebe was found to the fact that Baillee, his other girlfriend died in a bizarre way as well is just very sad. To have two women you’re dating go like that raises red flags for me.
The level of violence against women in Australia is out of control. Hopefully the changes people are trying to make do something positive.
Feels like every day I’m seeing another awful story 😢
Thankfully changes are being made. I had the best dv police liaison officer help me through a really hard time
In the world in general, and def in Hawaii where im from. but yes i find australia's cases amongst the top 3 most brutal.
@@lechieloo1 I'm so happy to hear that. It's sad to say that a lot of our issues may get better with the oldies just being aged out of power. Also, raising sons (children) to do better, be better.
@@darkydoom I agree! I have 3 boys and we talk alot about how to respect and appreciate both ourselves and others. I have medical issues and it’s a great learning opportunity for them. They have compassion, empathy and love for others. They are comfortable asking questions and listening and understanding a women’s perspective. My 10YO son asked me to explain what women’s periods are, what they go through and how he as a male can support his partner when he is older. It totally blew my mind. It shows a level of empathy and respect that is so far beyond the level that some grown men have.
Mondays are hard , but Bailey Sarian makes them bearable
I’m from Australia 🇦🇺 and we really appreciate you bringing awareness to this case.
I have been watching you since you were in your platinum blonde era and I have been saying “she needs to do the phoebe handsjuk case” and this upload had made my whole life!!!!!!!!! 💞💞💞💞💞
Me too!!!!!! I’ve been waiting for this one. The girls at Morbid Podcast did it awhile ago. Glad Bailey did her take on it ❤
I’m waiting for the vankrevel case
I’ve been watching since the blonde era too! How time flies ^_^ 🙏🏻
Stephanie Harlow did a deep dive on this a few years ago also.
WORST INVESTIGATION EVER.....
Well..Karen Reed is a big hot mess. ✌
I live in Melbourne and this city has gone downhill over the last 10 years. This gives me no confidence in our police or justice system 😢
There is no waiting period to report a missing person but a lot of times they do not take it seriously until 48 hours, I hear that a lot watching shows.
The theme song 😂❤ I’ve been here for AWHILE & I love it here 🎉❤😂
I adore when Bailey includes any variation of the theme song ❤
She's the cutest 😂🥰
Fr mother has fed ussss
Theme song ❤ someday you need to give us the full version lol 😂
Exactly! Circumstantial but still the police should have caught. DNA under her nails, he didn't call the police after he found the apartment in that state, there was so much linking him to the crime.
This case has always fascinated me. Utterly bizarre...I couldn't believe it a few years later when i read what had happened a subsequent girlfriend. Appalling! There's an excellent Australian doc about it; they have a young woman the exact height, build etc as Phoebe, a gymnast, far more limber & physically strong than most, & they try to recreate an accidental or even deliberate, 'suicidal' fall into the bin chute. It shows that it simply isn't possible without some really difficult, & concentrated, very athletic contortions let alone if you were full of alcohol. The only way she manages to successfully get into it finally is head first not feet first!
What’s the doc called?
@@Gothmogirl_666 don't remember, maybe a 60 Minutes one...i've looked & there are a few but I'd have to look through each to see which one has the reconstruction
Ah, ok then, no worries. I’ll have a look and see what I can find
@@Gothmogirl_666 It was on 60 Minutes Australia!
@@katigrace25 no worries, I don’t watch a lot of news so missed this, I’ll see if I can find it
I just lost my mom to a suspish car accident. Stories like this help me not lose my mind while fighting the police. It helps to know if I'm persistent maybe I'll eventually get some answers. Thank you for the, hope Bailey ❤
The resemblance between Bailey and Phoebe is craaazzyyy
one of the most infuriating parts of this story (and many others) is the dismissiveness, negligence and downright incompetence of police. The amount of women who could be alive if they did their jobs properly...
113,000 for living with a partner?... the father/judge needs to be fired/arrested for lying... it's called fraud... the son sounds guilty AF and needs to be investigated!,,, geez
I love that you do a sped up intro song! I’ve always loved it and missed it when you stopped lol
I can’t tell you how excited I get when I see a new story that I’ve never heard before that you cover - you are one of the biggest people to get me into true crime
I just realized the reason my 2 year old loves you it’s because you say “Hi friends” at the start of the videos just like Ms Rachel‼️🤯🤯🤯 every time I put u on he would stop whatever he’s doing and run to the tv, he’ll watch like 15 minutes or so then run off again😂😂😂😂
that’s so cute 🥹
That might explain why my baby also loves baileys intros. Granted mine and her TH-cam are the same so it literally is a mix of Ms. Rachel and Bailey 😂 several times I’ve left her with Ms. Rachel and she has figured out how to change it to Bailey
How sweet🥰🥰
My real name is Phoebe. I am the alpha
@@solenelicorne she's not your auntie
A joint + Bailey on a Monday evening AND it’s raining? Perfect!
Bailey would you ever cover the Adam Walsh case? I was a fan of America’s Most Wanted growing up and was shocked about the case
How was I asked TWICE to continue due to content? Seriously, I have watched Bailey for YEARS and NOW yall are asking me if I want to continue? Lol Hon, Bailey is Family at this point. ❤ You Bae!!!
People who *HAVEN'T* watched Bailey's vids: "I hate Mondays"
People who *HAVE* watched Bailey vids: "Not for us"
it’s so sad that there is such evil in the world to point where not even the ones who are supposed to handle these cases can’t even do their job, like who are you supposed to help you in this world?
I love your long videos!
I love in Melbourne and this gave me chills, knowing that i frequent all these places
I’ll be watching this later but wanted to say thank you for picking Phoebe Handsjuk’s case, I heard her story years ago and still think about her and his next girlfriend all the time
Phoebe's story is one of the first stories I heard that got me into true crime. Her story is very sad and I still think about her and what she must have went thru.
30:34 their like “even though theirs blood up here…….. let’s just take pics of that dog chewing up the cushion and call it a day” 😩😩😩
you can literally see what ant is doing today and it makes me sick ... :( he literally has a website
and its 100% obvious that he paid someone to do that to phoebe
The only “perk” to somewhat sporadic uploads is that I’m surprised when I see a new one! 🎉 It’s like receiving a package you forgot you ordered!
Idk how but Bailey ALWAYS does a great job recounting stories while simultaneously creating a flawless make up look 😭
Bailey I just had to complement you on your skin , it looks so beautiful I thought you already had your base on until I watched you put it on . Whatever you’re doing girl I wanna know because your skin is absolutely gorgeous!
Not sure if I’m looking in the wrong place but as I love the makeup part just as much as the true crime I always like to read what you’ve used but I can’t see a description box here. 😢😢 what did you use cos that eye look is beaut! 🖤
I’m a 911 operator in a major city. I take missing persons calls multiple times per shift and enter them into NCIC. We do not limit these calls based on time. Missing is missing. PD is sent to talk to the caller to take a report regardless.
Maybe where you live. Where I live they don’t even come when someone is threatening you and has a gun. Happened to a friend this weekend. She called me and I was on the phone with her for hours while be beat her door and then stood so she could see her door and balcony for hours. She and her kids hid in the closet for hours. Called the cops 4 times and they never showed up.
We’ve seen parents on the news because the cops didn’t come or wouldn’t let them file a missing persons report because of the missing person being a teenager. It’s a big problem here in the DFW area of Texas.
So glad you did this case! Stephanie Harlowe did a deep dive on this case, I have been emotionally attached ever since, I think he killed her 😢 poor Phoebe
I agree. He did it. We are not the only ones who think this way either.
I watched that one too. And it's awful. 😢
He So Did !! That Poor Girl 😢😢
Stephanie did a great job covering this case! So thorough
where can you watch? yt?
You’re the best! Please never stop doing these videos. ❤
Pls pls plsss do a video on Madeline McCann!! This is a case I have wanted to go down the rabbit hole many times but just can’t seem to find any reliable information. Couldn’t trust anybody else to do it but you!🩷🖤
I don’t know if it was already answered, but we have 911 because at the time it was created, you had to dial 9 (if I remember correctly) to connect to a line and the 11 was the fastest two numbers with a rotary. Something like that, and super vague lol
I’m pretty sure Bailey covered that in the 911 operators episode of Dark History
@@elaceyb did she? I haven’t watched any. But in this episode she said she didn’t know why it’s 911. I think I heard about it from…. Morbid?
@@voxystarlikewildfire1823Love Morbid!
I'd like to see you cover the case of aubriegh Wyatt she was bullied to death & it's recent I don't know if you do bullying cases but she was 13
Isn’t her mum being sued by the bullies’ parents?
@jaydf2180 yes. The judge ordered her mom to take down all her social media. Sad situation.
@@tashadiekanwait.... WHAT???
This is such a sad but very important case!!!
I would love to see more coverage about this case!!!!
I was born same day and year as her and just clicked on this❤😢
Would you consider doing a video about Wade Wilson? I keep seeing small clips but I'd prefer hearing the whole story from you. Love your videos 💗
This is so sad! Justice needs to be served!!! I didn’t even know about this story I am Aussie from Melbourne in Australia. It sounds like she was such a beautiful person from what Bailey had said. Rest easy phoebe! 💖
hey bailey!! i just wanted to say that your videos have helped me when i’m in a stressful time. example, when i feel like the world is crumbling i grab my phone and put on some bailey sarian. thank you so much for literally just existing 💕💕
Another stellar performance by Victoria Police. Well done, guys.
Aussie here! Highly recommend the podcast "Phoebe's Fall" if you want to know more details about this case. So sad. I was emptying garbage in an apartment just down the road from the Balencea and thought of Phoebe 😞 BTW there is NO WAY a person could get in one of those chutes alone.
Thank you