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Is The Medieval Castle An Architectural Masterpiece? | Secrets Of The Castle | Timeline
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2018
- Ruth, Peter and Tom enter the surprisingly colourful world of medieval interior design. The castles that we see today are in fact scarred by centuries of decay. Most of their original roofs, carpentry and interior finishes have long since disappeared, but in their heyday they were lavishly decorated.
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Timeline - World History Documentaries is there any way to see how far they’ve gotten with the castle today
Google it. They are finished and give living history tours now.
You are British y u use $???
@@choioi6657 $ is "easier" to spell than dollars
@@charlest1984 oh*&&8uuijjj***joj
I had a science teacher like Ruth. I loved her. Her enthusiasm was infectious. I didn’t care about science. But, I couldn’t help but get drawn into her stories and learn.
I hope she’s somewhere happy and surrounded with bits and bobs that she has picked up around the world and shares her stories enthusiastically with her grandchildren!
I have a science teacher like her too, but it is an old guy who blows up stuff all the time or shows off his Tesla coil, he knows a lot about chemistry and his room is full of stuff about chemistry and planets.
@@TechnicalTactician That's a golden teacher
I've watched a few documentaries which feature her. At first blush, her exuberance could be mistaken as affected, but no one can keep that up so long and so convincingly. So she is clearly enthusiastic about her work. It's great to see and it draws the viewer in--at least this one.
Awe that was sweet . 🥰🙇🏻♀️ & yes she is a joy to life for everyone she crosses paths with & I’m glad we get to experience her passion & love for life , she’s so smart too & has sooooo many skill sets , she can literally do anything. I’d want to be around her when the grid goes down or something apocalyptic happens. Her daughter is so lucky to have a mom like her. 💛☺️
That's so sweet and kind
This lady is so happy about history, I've now washed a few episodes and she appears in each one of them, super passionate.
“Washed a few episodes” well I hope they’re clean now 😂😂😂
@@henrylivingstone2971 hahahaha... Voice to text option 🤦.
eze creative
No it was good, I got a good laugh 😂😂😂
Yes, I also washed a couple of those episode. They came out pretty clean.
Yes. My episodes came out pretty clean!
I love how a huge amount of the workers are modern local craftsmen with long family histories of craft professions. Your ancestors would smile on approval.
👍
The best part of this series is to see how much the people envolved seems to love doing what they are doing!
I mean, it's a bloody castle. It's pretty rad.
Yes. Man is built to do purposeful stuff. That’s why they are happy.
Ruth is just a wonderful source of history! You can tell she loves teaching and learning. Tom and Peter are awesome too. Love this series💜
Ruth is such a joy to watch. Her enthusiasm is infectious!
Wish they made one about making the furniture and bedding for the castles. That would be truly interesting indeed. I love this series though, found it very informative and a pleasure to listen to. Thanks for uploading them.
well given the time period of 13th century, well there werent that many beds, people would sleep on kind of strawbeds bedded with linen with a kind of framing. Of course there were beds made with remarkable craftmensship, but those were the exeption. As far as furniture goes, its most of the time plain, simple and of rugged construction sometimes with decorative elements, considered by modern standard rather crude very few nails or glue, just wood fitting but it has its own charm. How do i now ? I live in germany and have seen some castles and even furniture from the 14th century. Some of the living rooms were actually quite nice with a fireplace, tables, chairs and wooden ceiling and wooden wallblending with decoratice carpets or paintings (which were restored) and later fitted glaswindows, before that they were sealed shut with planks to keep the warmth in.
MsOtzelot lol you realize those are modern reconstructions? Wood from the Middle Ages has rotten away. And wealthy lords who could afford a castle could afford a nice bed
Look up the Absolute History channel. They have this full series, and one episode shows the Interior Design
Actually Svetlana there are a good number of surviving examples from medieval saxony.
@@joshschneider9766 very true the royal collection (uk) has many pieces from the period as well as linen and other more fragile pieces.
I love this so much. My father was a stone mason. I wish, so much, he could have lived to see something like this.... he would have loved it. To have been able to take him to see something like this would have given me immense joy.
I'm watching because I build stonewalls on my rural property ("For fun!" according to my fiancee'). I like building for decades, perhaps a hundred years! I love it when a rock falls perfectly in place as though it's been waiting thousands of years to find a place in my wall!
Rhonda Sisco-Cleveland - You’re a good daughter.
My feelings exactly: my father was an ingeneer, and he was always amazed by the gothic cathedrals. He always wondered how they did it without all the machines we have. I wish he were alive so we could go visit, seeing I live in France now :(
@@msinvincible2000 I’m so sorry, and I understand. You should go, maybe his spirit can draw near you.
Me too. My Dad was a hobby woodworker, he loved shaping wood and making furntiture.
"If I'm honest, there was some roadkill. So I shaved it."
Oh Ruth 😂
yeah, this woman doesn't shy away from anything, and I'm not sure if I should be aroused by it, or scared
She's AMAZING, isn't she?
35:40
"When their backs are turned we'll just redo it all."
"You can't know how to do everything, eh?"
😅 The sass.
😂😂😂
I love the shade
I went to the comments looking for this
"There was some road kill, so I shaved it." That is SO Queen Ruth!
She's not a Queen! She's a witch! lol
@@hypnocilicdreams oh my gosh lol. I said to my self whatever that’s perfect and easier lol . Native from Canada Alberta 🇨🇦lol 👌
@@hypnocilicdreams she turned me into a newt!
I got a good laugh out of that also!
😂
Well I commented on a previous episode that I actually live not far away fro Guedelon. 3 years after this programme was made (now late 2020) I'm going to make a concerted effort to go and see it . What a fabulously detailed look into medieval life . Outstanding
did you finally go??
I would go and never leave-I would plead with them to join their workforce as an archivist of this project (which I'm sure there's already an archive team archiving everything imaginable about this project through the years as it's happening around them), and learn about medieval bookbinding, writing, implements, fables and Christian stories, etc. I went to University for History and self-specialized in Medieval and American Histories, and worked for a year in their Archives & Area Research Center that served the four-county area, learning the basics of how to run and upkeep a small archives. I would also want the wives to teach me how to hand sew and weave fabrics, and help with the cooking and farm chores (the University I went to was known for their Agriculture programs).
@@JessieCochran37 I'm sure they'd let you hang out, perhaps they'd let you live in the little village nearby, as long as you act the period. Not a problem for me. I love my Pc, and I love Minecraft, and GTA SA, but I love the Medieval period even more, and I'd happily give it all up just to live out there.
I’m in absolute awe of the artists and artisans on this documentary! Being an artist or an artisan in the Middle Ages was time intensive and often backbreaking labor. Think about all of the steps that went into making a paintbrush and the pigments to make paint with or the make it or break it uncertainty of firing ceramic tile after the long days of rain. Seeing the Medieval paintings uncovered in that 13th century French church sent chills up my spine and tears to my eyes. What a treasure!
I know right, Peter getting all sweaty, building stuff, so cute 🥰
The part where Ruth explains she shaved a roadkill badger is priceless.
That church is stunning. What an incredible precious gem of colloquial French mediaeval religious art.
This is amazing! These guys look like the real thing, like going back in time. This type of work is extremely important, to preserve ancient traditions, who needs time machines when we have these geniuses around!!
Ruth, more people need your heart and your kinda happy! You are a gem!
Hugs from the states!
Listening to Ruth so enthusiastically talk about history is quite relaxing haha.
I've noticed her joy also and its infectious to witness!😊
I'm just binge watching this series. I had the good fortune to live in Europe (Paris) as a child from 10 to 14 years of age as an R.C.A.F. brat from '56 to '60 and saw all manner of castles throughout Europe and the British Isles camping with the family. They've always fascinated me so to see this documentary is like food and drink to me.
The only things more impressive are the great cathedrals, some of which took generations to build, I understand.
Thanks for a great post!
That must have been amazing:)
@@puppidoggi1124 Hiya and Happy New Year, PD.
It was then and 60+ years later it is even more so. I consider France and particularly Paris my second home as it were. I even threw them some Euros for the funding of the rebuild on Notre-Dame Cathedral after the fire.
Cheers from the Great White North
I really enjoy these things the 3 of them do for a year at a time for us to learn about each era. It's so awesome.
Celt Gunn what are some others?
I hope they keep doing them! There is so much to learn and discover ... maybe ask them to come to America and live in our past? That would be awesome!
@@CraftQueenJr
They lived at an early Tudor Monastery-owned farm for about a year, & in an early-mid 17th c Welsh farm for an entire year - it made for fascinating viewing!
They did a War Time (WWII) piece too in that series. Love them!
@@mariahsmom9457 The stream train one...
love this series! i love how you can see how much of a difference the rendering and limewashing does to brighten the interior of a castle's rooms! love how color theory and the inherent understanding of light spans history! (makes my history loving artist/graphic designer soul happy!)
The painting and plastering was rather interesting, I'm a former painter and plasterer and have definitely learned something, and all the craftsmen and labor's definitely worked their arse's off.
I am really enjoying the series and the insights it gives. The project is supposed to span 25 years, it is in France where the English learned how to build castles and where there is funding for such a long term exercise to get off the ground. I am thankful the BBC gave us a glimpse of this work and don't expect the participants to play to the audience.
I was a ceramist who loved the bit about the kiln. And as an Artist the brush making! Was pretty cool!
I love Ruth's energy she brings such soul and passion to her delivery
We are very weak compared to our early relatives. True multitasking.
Ruth, your enthousiasm is a bless!
You're a pure pleasure to watch and learn from.
All are, but you're so bright haha
I'm anxious to see the castle finish. I imagene that during medieval times probably hundreds if not thousands of people would work building such a mega construction project. I really enjoyed too see the ladies making colors from soil. I hope they keep showing the progress of their goal a castle! Thanks I love any type of construction so I really enjoyed this video.
My grandfather and my mother build their first home....they knew how to make adobe and bricks . My grandpa never bought furtinure he made every thing at home.
I am so enamoured with this series. Thank you for posting it.
That ochre paint is really impressive. The yellow ochre paint looks like gold as it goes on the wall.
I gladly watch anything Ruth is in, she's always so interested in what she's doing
Ill be honest, there was a bit of roadkill , so I shaved it. This girl is dedicated.
I ❤️ her, she’s hilarious!
@Aeox Shhhhhh
Can't stand her or her laugh. She is too dramatic. Compare her to the very professional site administrator Sarah Preston. They should have used Sarah for the entire series instead of Ruth. Factual and easy to listen to.
The more I watch Ruth, the less I like her. She overdoes everything. She isn't dedicated, she is a drama queen.
She would make the perfect witch in a children's scary movie.
I got a few hides and a head on my wall, all from roadkill, I take the animal home, skin it, work the hide and eat or bury the meat (depends on how long it's been dead and/or if some organs have ruptured from the impact. if the stomach have a leak, ALL the meat is useless.)
there was no road kill, they just said that because they didn't want to upset people that they killed a badger to make some brushes
THOROUGHLY enjoying this series. Thanks for uploading!
Something mind-boggling just struck me as Ruth was talking about the years worth of work to go BEFORE the textiles and furniture were brought in: people frequently lived such short lives that these homes wouldn't have been finished in one person's lifetime to be able to enjoy the house they were building...
Maybe not. The typical construction seems to have taken five to ten years, well within the strategic time frames of a typical monarch. They were also often not built individually but as part of a centralized military planning effort. There is one more component that nobody seems to think about: work creation programs. Unemployment was a politically sensitive issue even back then. Unemployed starving people do stupid things (crime and revolution), while employed people are well under control. They have something to lose, a home, a wife, daily meals, respect by the community etc.. Political leaders were no less aware of these issues in antiquity and the Middle Ages than they are today. And what would you like better? A guy building a castle for you or the same guy plotting against you because he is desperate?
Depends on which era you look at. Certainly in some parts of the Middle Ages people could live beyond 60
It seems to be a common misconception that life SPANS were shorter then. Not so. Even the Bible speaks of a man's term as being "three score and ten" (70 years); not so different from modern folks. Life EXPECTANCY was certainly reduced then, the result of disease or war or famine, but life expectancies deal with population averages. LOTS of people did die relatively young, but individuals could nevertheless figure on living 60 or 70 years.
I am planning a D&D game and this has given me so many ideas I never thought about that might come up! this was much more interesting than I thought it would be
Do a who done it murder on a medieval buildsite! You have to incorporate the hamster-wheel crane.
@@chrisbolland5634 oh my god I would kill to play that lol
@@chrisbolland5634 I saw your comment as I was writing my campaign, thanks for the idea as it's now part of a side quest..!
Ive never played it but have been meaning to try
You'd never really think that medieval tile-making politics would be a point of contention, but you'd be wrong. The kind of chaos in a tile-making village that would erupt once the royals hand down all new rules for how tiling is to be done. Raised tensions, struggles to get a batch just right according to new norms. And of course, any sort of monster or bandits that might threaten to disrupt such operations, potentially putting the livelihoods of the town at risk. Maybe a band of Tiefling tilers who have been laboring just fine for years, but then some racist in a position of authority decides, by the new national rules, Tieflings aren't allowed to make tiles. All sorts of ways to spin it into a game.
As an artist it's so amazing to see the beautiful murals on the walls...those men and women spent their lives dedicated to the craft and to see it preserved even now, you're witnessing history, you're seeing every brush stroke they made. We can appreciate it even now, and in a way the artist lives on.
Awesome to see Ruth and Peter hosting this series..
I love everything about this series.... such a great group of people, well edited, brilliant music. It’s very enlightening and peaceful.
Oh my... I can't wait to see the finished project. Hopefully on an actual tour of the castle!
Did you ever get there??
I almost feel bad for watching this for free. This is awesome content. Bravo à vous tous !
Peter Ginn pleases me so. I am fond of him in all the series I have seen him in.😉😘😊
So interesting.I love these projects. I visited the Scottish Crannog centre which recreates the early iron age. Hope I can see this place someday.
Easily one of the best documentaries I've watched in a long time
This channel earns every cent it gets from the advertisements!
I watch them gladly!
I love this series. There's nothing like it anywhere. The Realstories folks make the best documentaries anywhere.
Great spirit-boosting for the tilers, and indeed everyone, around the fire. Great stuff.
History was one of my favorite subjects in high school and college...so interesting to see how people lived in the early centuries...the building of this castle...fascinating...
For the toilet wiping situation, I believe they found some evidence in a covered over old cesspit that there was a lot of wool fibres, so they speculate that low quality waste wool might have been used for wiping.
That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for posting it :)
A females period used to be called "being on the rag." So i have always thought rags were used and of course washed for reuse.
Doesn't some of the world still use the left hand and bowl of water method?
@@missannie8012 yes
same with Ancient China: low quality waste paper was used as toiletries
I’m curious - what happens when this is finally complete?! I can see how incredibly valuable the entire process is for students and teachers alike in this process, learning anew old old ways to do things, how they accomplished all they did, etc...but are there plan for once it’s done? Will it be used as a museum, or...?
It is a museum. You can visit the building site which works as a living exibition, even though the castle isn't complete yet.
Stroggoii - Thank you, greatly appreciate the answer! That’s great, was really hoping they were doing that with it! I’ll probably never see it myself, but I love that it’s there for others to wonder at ☺️
Wendy Harrison
I think the process of building is more interesting than the finished "product" for educative purposes, and they probably think the same, since they decide to build in parallel a medieval mill and several other building projects around the castle, like a village and another smaller castle made in wood, since the very early castles were made in wood.
Once it will be finally finished, there are tons of possibilities. You can make medieval shows with knights, you can rent it for movies, or ceremonies, weddings, things like that, you can make a touristic/educative place pretty much as it is now.
Or all at once...
Delph Zouzou Oh goodness, yes I completely agree with you! I found the process of building it just fascinating! I loved that such ancient & largely forgotten methods and techniques were rediscovered and used again - we’ve lost so much along the way, so to find that there’s still folks out there with ancient techniques and abilities that have been passed down through the families throughout the generations is such a gift!
Wendy Harrison I also understand that every step of the process was vastly documented and will gain a permanent exhibit. Docs like this one are also material they gather to show and register all the research and the work involved.
I'd love to see the finished work, in ten years
I think this is an old series they might be done by now
Originally scheduled to be completed in 2023. I have no idea if they expect to finish on time 😀
@Leon Russell Thank you 😀👍
To answer the question of the toilet paper, in french the word for rag or dishcloth is “torchon” and is really close to the verb “se torcher” which means “to wipe oneself” so “torchon” literally means “the cloth to wipe oneself with”... there you go...
My thoughts also after all the Romans used a sponge on a stick even as far north as Hadrian's Wall.
@Baron Von Grijffenbourg How would you go about using the water to wash your behind? A bidet using water pressure which didn't look like they'll have, without that I'd imagine it'd get kind of messy. And you'd still need something to wipe to help with cleaning like the Roman's sponge stitch...
To me, it seems more likely they had a dry cloth and a wet cloth. The wet cloth, with a bucket of water, was used for the initial cleaning. While the dry was used after things were cleaned but still wet.
To the higher status nobles I imagine it was another luxury their status afforded them to use relatively nice cloth to wipe themselves. Probably the lower class would use old, holey rags that weren't much good for anything else.
@Baron Von Grijffenbourg Cloths can be washed. You're not "ruining" it by using it to clean yourself.
@@catief1031 your hand wipe everything off that way then use water then water to clean your hands then the cloth to dry your hands.
John McCallum that’s a long stick 🤔
I don't know the history of this show but I sure hope it won some awards for informative story telling. Extremely well presented and the people telling the stories are a casting dream.
This series is one of, if not the best documentary series I've ever seen.
"When their backs are turned we'll re-do it all".
Fascinating! I’ve always been interested in castle architecture and construction.
(23:24) About the massive debate of covering the walls with lime wash and hiding all the masonry. Maybe they could be authentic and cover up most of the rooms with lime wash, and leave a few of them in the original raw state for people to see the masonry?
I would like to see a whole outside done.
I rather like the effect of rendering most of the walls but featuring the beautifully cut cornerstones around windows and doors etc. But I do appreciate this is a period recreation.
There are plenty of original castles where people can see such masonry, so I think they should render the whole lot here.
Was thinking the same thing. I think the grand hall looks grand as it is and should leave it be.
Amazing, fascinating documentary. Great presenters, lots of information that reveals the ingenuity of humans through history. Can't recommend it enough. Thanks for the high-quality upload. LL
Once you start watching, you can't stop.
true. That's a well documented and well constructed documentary
23:22 Peter makes me laugh, this trio is awesome, I can imagine Ruth meeting sir David Attenborough
Absolutely love this series
24:30 I love it when people talk different languages but completely understand each other. :D
My husband and I do that 😂
If you visit Burg Prunn, south of Regensburg, in Bavaria, the guard room still has the original painting on the wall -- it shows neighboring towns and castles so the guards (I suppose) could learn to recognize them on sight.
what a remarkable undertaking!! how i would love to visit this castle ✨
I saw this thumbnail and thought it was Conan O’Brian. Thanks for the documentary!
Did you really though?
Or did you just read that comment on every other video in this series and hope to get a bunch of "likes" on your comment like they did?
I love the work that Ruth has done. I remember the first historical show I saw her I was called the green valley.
That was one of the first I watched, too. I love the Historical Farm series!
@@JessieCochran37 it's so amazing to look at all of the ways that they made things and how I can use some of them.
I LOVE these documentaries with Ruth Goodman! She’s my alter ego! All of these documentaries are so interesting & informative!! Thanks for posting!!
IT MUST BE THRILLING TO THOSE LEADING THIS GREAT ENDEVOUR TO SEE IT'S COMPLETION AND HOW IT WILL BE FINISHED INSIDE WITH AMAZING FURNISHINGS, EQUIPMENT FOR COOKING AND TAPESTRIES!!
You Brit's make fantastic docs...Hail Britannia...
Brittania is no longer British
Wow: is Alecca. , , ,
People do complain about the TV license fee, but when the product is high quality documentaries like this on free TV without commercials, I don't mind paying.
@@G1NZOU If they complain... they needn't pay! I don't pay for a TV license as I watch nothing live. I get all of my viewing and knowledge from on-demand movies and programmes and pre-recorded documentaries such as this on the good ol' TH-cam! :-)
@@johnny_pilot also BBC has started to include product placement as part of advertising
Bloody excellent series. Well done! I built a sandcastle once so i am an expert!
I have dined at White Castle. I am basically a Nobel Woman.
Right on!
I am directly descended from charlemagne!
Them dressing time appropriately is the highlight of this project,it takes it to another level .it is great Knowing you guys you fanatics.
Bird almost got yeeted at 0:49
Amazing. This story was told so we'll, i can imagine myself there. Well done! Worth the work
Excellent series. Only on episode 3. I'm hoping that at some point it explores what rate of pay each craftsman and woman received in return for such intense work? Also the cost of living for these people, how they stored any accrued wealth? I love this stuff, I don't understand people that aren't interested in history?!
What is that shows name so I can watch more episodes???
I've really enjoyed these series with ruth, peter, and various others.
God I wish there where villages and towns where you can just drop/abandoned your modern day life and go back and live in this era anywhere from 13th-17th obviously with modern medicine and everything else.
It looked so peaceful and lovely at the end with the flute while sitting by the kiln relaxing. Also the food in the last episode looked amazing simple yet tasty
40:28 I did not know a queen of England was into Stone Roses, I wonder if she ever thought "I Wanna Be Adored"?
imagine being on your daily commute and catching a woman by the side of the road wearing full mediaeval garb shaving a dead badger.
Hahahahahahaha! Yes!
This is a joy to watch
I wish we could rebuild castle ruins. We could learn so much from re enactment experimental archeology.
Where was Ruth when I was looking for a Ruth like her?... She's a GEM!
It makes me emotional while watching as if my soul yearns for a simpler time.
Yeah sounds poetic too say that but things weren't simpler, not day too day life
I also yearns for that
you might get sick of medieval times & want to return to your own time. especially if you live there a peasant, not in a lords castle like the one shown in this video
@@hypnocilicdreams first i m decendent from italian nobility this is the coat of arms of my family secondly i would prefer to live less but a better life a more meaninful and natural one than living to 100 years but wishing i was dead becase i couldnt tolerate myself or my era, or my city life, peasants may work but everyone has to work the difference is they worked on meaniful things they had passion on such as farmer, carpenter, smith. Instead of pressing buttons on a computer to do nothing just so your boss can get richer, speaking of so i do not want to create a utopia and taxes is normal but better to pay taxes but live better than what i said earlier
@@hypnocilicdreams even in the modern world am looking for a small farm for myself so i can live naturally like my ancestors did
I LOVE these documentaries! I really learn from Ruth and deeply wish that I'd had instructors in school like her - but visually, I REALLY watch for Peter! His face, his dark eyes and expressions are truly romantic in the classical sense of the word. He is BEAUTIFUL in the extreme!! 💙 Yummmmmmmmmmmmm!!
Fascinating and ingenious re-created work.👏👏
Can you possibly squease in a few more ads please you left too much room for the doco'
Could you possibly improve your spelling - "squeeze", not "squease"
That's why I use an ad-blocker, ESPECIALLY for material like this posted by opportunists trying to make money off the work of others. That this has so many ads shows that "Timeline" is in the end just a con meant to generate $$. Use an ad blocker and so don't reward them for trying to make free money off other people's efforts.
Ranillon hey mate, what’s a good add blocker? What one do you use? Is it good?
It's called "Ad Blocker" and works well, at least on my old IE browser, although it will sometimes die forcing me to restart my browser.
That Ray Liota commercial just repeats and repeats... why? some variety at least
0:49 That bird didn't even flinch. Cheers from Melbourne.
2:11 So you're this innocent French bird, minding your own business, and then suddenly, "Whoa!"....
History is so wonderful, and knowledge is power.
28:58 I frikkin love her! 😂
this is amazing!!! so insane they actually did it with no one getting killed by falling bricks or something...
I found it very interesting that the stove for the tiles looks similar to what is called a rocket stove today.
Excellent Documentary ~ I enjoyed it so much that I watched it again so as not to have missed any of it the first time.
I think this is an exciting project. I hope they show it when it all done 🙂
This series is extremely interesting.
I love this historical content. It gives credit to the people for their intelligence and ingenious inventions. I hate when historical content treats those that lived it as if they were stupid or incapable.
19:27... Honestly I know it's strange but I'm fascinated by how clean that goose's rear end is haha, supermodel goose 🦆
The paintbrush was a moment of particular genius. Nice one Ruth!
I love Ruth , she is so cool. I will watch anything she is on. Very interesting content.
Thank you so much for this - absolutely fascinating!
love this woman!
For some reason, my favourite part is at about 25:00 in. Ruth is engaging with one of the residents, but the resident insists on speaking French, while Ruth needs to continue speaking English, since this program is made for the English-speaking world. And yet, without the need for a translator, each person responds to the other instantly, but in their own language. I don't really know why, but I've always really loved these kinds of interactions.