How To Plan A Model Railway Layout - Just Build It!

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  • How To Plan A Layout - Just Build It
    Hello And Welcome To Budget Model Railways, where you can learn how to make all aspects of a model railway cheaply! In this video, I will show you how to plan a layout easily. DON'T PLAN IT!!
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  • @lazyrrr2411
    @lazyrrr2411 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    What you say in the first 53 seconds is EPIC and should be Carved in Stone
    In my *opinion* the Biggest Threat to this Hobby is from Stodgy, Narrow-minded "Bolt counters" * Loaded with a book of Rules & Procedures 🛂📖

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So true, thanks for your support

    • @underwaterdick
      @underwaterdick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Very well said Lazy RRR!
      I think it was a very profound thing to say, and should be heard by anyone wanting to built a layout to use.
      Accuracy is nice when followed 100%, but there is no rule book and no need to be accurate when everything is how YOU want it to be.
      I am a big fan of British Diesel locomotives, so my layout has a 121dmu, class 47, class 37, class 66, class 59... All in mixed liveries from various areas. No real period, location or thinking behind my rolling stock, but I like them, so I do it my way.
      Everyone else should do things their own way too. And if to them accuracy is important, so be it, but don't tell others that they cannot do things the way they want.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on well said, I'm the same with my diesels

    • @Beatlefan67
      @Beatlefan67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think they have their place, but I did exactly this; I just got on with it! I knew what I wanted to achieve and let the little plan I had, unfold from my mind as it happened. I made a couple cock-ups but so what?

    • @gortonshameless6746
      @gortonshameless6746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well said. You build what you want. If people do not like it then they can always go and look at somebody else's layout.

  • @slwilliams75
    @slwilliams75 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Finally! I've found a down to earth model railway channel that I can relate to. THANK YOU 👍🏻

  • @jekylthorn8969
    @jekylthorn8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely agree. The only plan you need is your imagination and a big picture image of what you want. There are a lot of ancient lores that exist in railway modelling that serve no purpose and seem to be built on extreme risk aversion. Well said!

  • @saltydawg8999
    @saltydawg8999 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    You sound a lot like me, never planned a layout in my life and in over 50 years have built a good many, even a LT tube layout I allowed to evolve by just looking at photos. All your tips are sound and practical. The only thing I would add is the one move every modeller needs to do to keep their interest alive is get a train running as soon as you can, even if it is just up and down a straight track, so that between mdelling scenery or buildings there is something else to do, not only that, but you can see at a glance if your trains fit well with the scenery before anything becomes fixed and unmoveable, keep up the good work.

  • @markwilliams8369
    @markwilliams8369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a series on TV in the 70’s about building a model railway, the presenter said the first thing to do was to decide which station to model then go there and start measuring everything, including the platform slabs. Never, ever done that, and my layouts are still accepted at exhibitions. Do want ever makes you happy, I say.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was the traditional way, I prefer to use my imagination, fitted to the space I have and then just get on with it lol

  • @pauljohnson5780
    @pauljohnson5780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Best way never plan a layout do it as you go and take your time the only thing you must plan and this is important is were your cup of tea goes

  • @BudgetModelRailways
    @BudgetModelRailways  8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hi Michael. My freelance rail bus on The Kato chassis goes up the hill ok, i checked this before I finalised the idea. Not sure about others or pulling wagons but it's only supposed to be a rail bus branch. Generally you can use steeper inclines than the text books say as long as you don't want to pull to many wagons/ coaches. Have a look at our OO layout video GreenHill Halt, even a Deltic will go up that incline and its first radius rising 8cm in one half radius! Thanks for the comment.

  • @MrHavasquez88
    @MrHavasquez88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is a great vid, just thinking about getting into this hobby myself. Something I have wanted since i was a kid. Thanks for the ideas and good luck finding those chance pieces! Looking great

  • @zan917
    @zan917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looks like your layout is coming along beautifully! Thanks for the "permission" to get started without having a perfectly finished plan. It's exactly the advice I needed!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's how we build all our layouts, define the space available, play around with track until you get a track plan that fits, then work from there.

  • @tdranger6888
    @tdranger6888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! That's how to have fun! But still, for some of us who can't get around very well, and have not even that space, nothing wrong with a virtual RR planned on a computer. Enjoy. Tom

  • @sailingschooners8668
    @sailingschooners8668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good advice as most homes are already crowded and today's costs along with expensive companies ripping everyone off !

  • @stephenwebb4107
    @stephenwebb4107 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like your style, I've just been wrestling with different ideas on paper for the scenery on my n gauge layout, it's felt very stressful and at the end of the day nothing got built. I'm inspired by your video to just go for it and let it evolve.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the way I make most of my layouts, I find they evolve quite nicely

  • @KatR264
    @KatR264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:49 I am in the same exact position as that lad, this is why I am watching so many of your videos right now, thank you so much for posting this! When you’ve just inherited a model railway, you’re processing a loss too, and clear explanations like this are exactly what you need (so that everything becomes a little less daunting)!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad we could help, hope you have fun with your layout, model railways are great therapy

  • @mrblue028
    @mrblue028 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Your so right. I think I suffer from over thinking doing a layout. Lol You give great advice. Just start with what space you have.

  • @brucemou1
    @brucemou1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful Layout! Thank you for all the tips.

  • @hookabunny5030
    @hookabunny5030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just build it totally dig it... Started n scale coffee table 2' by 4' and z scale on top of that coffee table 17" by 4' just building it and Love my creation of train skill from nothing to something

  • @andrewwalsh4798
    @andrewwalsh4798 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this is so great and simple. One would get the idea from so many big time planners that you must have a Masters degree in architectural, electronics or electrical, or mechanical engineering. You've hit the nail on the head: keep it SIMPLE. This ultra complicated approach that is out there discourages people from entering the hobby. It's gotten too technical and expensive. This is supposed to be a FUN hobby. For the average adult or kid who doesn't have a big budget this is so good and welcome. MORE please. Thank you so much. I still have on old American Flyer s gauge set and my wife is hesitant to let me get any new equipment or try using n scale. I soon will be 72 and yearn to have something I can call a freelance railway, simple and not break my bankmaccount. You've encouraged a lot of us. Thanks again.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad we could help, good luck with the model railway

  • @diedertspijkerboer
    @diedertspijkerboer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are some vids I come back to and this is one of them.
    Although I am a person who likes to plan ahead, this vid reminds me there are limits to that and encourages me to experiment and find a balance that is right for me.
    For example, I have recently bought 2 inch foam board on which I will put the track because they allow me to easily carve out spaces below track level, such as rivers and canals, but where those will go, I don't know.
    Similarly I also sometimes am prepared to pay a larger amount for a train pack or loco (still second hand), but this channel helps me be aware of where my priorities lie.
    So thanks once again for an insightful vid. Keep them coming, because your perspective is sorely needed in this hobby.

  • @marticon9286
    @marticon9286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agree with the other comments. You have taken the mystique out of it all and inspired newbies just to get on with it and enjoy!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, its easy if you keep it simple and just enjoy yourself

  • @bradster1708
    @bradster1708 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your creativity in creating this layout, not just with the track design but with using items which are cheap or free in a way which works with your creation. That includes materials for terrain as well as buildings. It can be easy to get bogged down with tiny details when trying to plan the “perfect layout” and/or spend large amounts of money to buy specific items. A little imagination goes a long way and you my friend have a great visionary mind

  • @sja1312
    @sja1312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love your videos and will hopefully use them to create my own layout soon. thanks

  • @underwaterdick
    @underwaterdick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great video, thanks for the advice.
    I bought a scond hand HST set and oval with points to have a play, then suddenly decided I wanted a proper model railway.
    Space is a huge issue for me, so it couldn't be very big.
    Trying to use the VERY small amounts of track that I had, I came up with a great shunting/depot layout idea. - it would require the purchase of more track, but the set I had with 6 straights was enough to start with ideas.
    I decided just to keep building this layout on my floor and tweaking it. Eventually I decided on the track I would have to buy.
    Once the track turned up the layout idea grew slightly, then I saw a piece of board in a DIY shop that was 2mx30cm and decided my layout would fit nicely on that.
    Now as I try things on the board, the layout is ever evolving within the space.
    I did all this before I saw your video and always questioned if it was the right way to go about things... Now, thanks to your advice I am happy with my decision.
    It also allows me to purchase the odd item every now and then as it grows, rather than having a big expensive list of things to get from a plan... This means that when I see something cheap, second hand, free or scrap, I can work out a way to use it as and when I have inspiration.
    By the 'end' of the build (which never has to come if it always evolves) it certainly won't have been budget, but it will have been great fun getting there, and a great lesson should I ever get space to build a second layout.
    Keep up the great videos!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, loads more videos to watch. Your layout sounds great

  • @jefreestarisapedophile5977
    @jefreestarisapedophile5977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank god! When I asked for advice on Facebook I got bombarded with so much information I didn't need so I just gave up but you have inspired me to take my little "train saving tin" and go get some track and board and just go for it.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Works for me, take a look at our other videos for more inspiration, thanks for watching

  • @sadieals
    @sadieals 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your no nonsense approach ...you don't need a degree in rock formation as some would suggest! It's a hobby to be enjoyed. Thanks for posting.

  • @impspa3676
    @impspa3676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been investigating modeling a railway for a few weeks now. This video was like a breath of fresh air in a stodgy environment.

  • @philipplumb8552
    @philipplumb8552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks very much! Great way of thinking, much appreciated.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad we could help, don't over plan, start and let it evolve

  • @FredWilbury
    @FredWilbury 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi ..great tips ...I know I've spent ages faffing around ... and haven't got round to running Trains ....thanks again

  • @paulbrennan3760
    @paulbrennan3760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the fact that you make a layout because YOU want to use it and you look to include features you want to see. You are lucky that you can build multiple layouts and you will then sell them. I think a lot of us me included think I can only build one layout so it must be the ‘best it can be’ because you only get one chance. Your thinking is really helping. I’m never going to a professional modeller so why stress about it. Do what I can and enjoy it!!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the, I must get it right first time brigade discourages a lot of people. CJ Freezer the model railway writer and guru used to say just build something, anything, then enjoy it and move on. You learn by building not planning.

    • @paulbrennan3760
      @paulbrennan3760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Budget Model Railways I must confess I have used one of the track planning programs. But I’ve used it on the basis of I have this amount of space. I shamelessly cribbed a couple of your shunting layouts for the ends of my end to end. (Hope there’s no copy right chatge😄) and just started playing around laying out virtual track. Till I got something I liked the look of. I know know how much track I need and can start sourcing this as cheaply as possible.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair I used any rail software on my n gauge layout

  • @richardclowes6123
    @richardclowes6123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally agree with your philosophy. Over lock-down I've built a huge layout with lots of different themes . . . Chatted with the Grandkids, and of course, the wife. Ended up with half an idea and just loosely laid some pieces of track and saw what it looks like. Harry Potter, a Jurassic Mountain, Lord of the Rings Cave with Dragon and gold with Bilbo Baggins hiding, Pirates of the Caribbean, WW2 Airfield, a Town with stations. So many hidden things to look for. That would cause some bozo to have a fit because it's . . . 'not a certain era'. . . . Hell no, but it's got lots going on. But now, I'm building a shunting yard !!!! Totally inspired by your vids. . . . Think the Grandkids are going to love it. Thanks for keeping hands on railwaying real.

  • @BorneoBatman
    @BorneoBatman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! I ended up just going for it like you suggested. I got stressed and discouraged with all the planning so I just went for it. I am a visual learner and i need to see it as I go. I've been having more fun just going for it.

  • @onamission8397
    @onamission8397 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the way I'm going to do it I'd read all the stuff in forums about planning layouts and it seemed very confusing plus I don't have time or money for that, I'd rather just experiment with the actual track iv got and see what I can do with it. Although I started this idea of building a railway last week trying to keep the cost down is doable, for a set some extra track,a left point, a right point a roll of cork and some extra fishplates iv spent about £90 it's a starting point .Keep up the videos because like you I'm on a budget and find your videos so useful.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and glad we could help. A set and some extra tracking a board is an excellent start and can provide lots of fun building it and lots more operating potential than people think, take a look at some of my videos on my Homewood or market town layouts. Have fun with it and let us know how you get on

  • @peterdebaere2840
    @peterdebaere2840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all those great and good tips.
    I also work that way, without a plan and just build what I feel like.
    You have a Belgian fan.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Peter, all the best to our friends in Belgium. Lots of other videos to enjoy

  • @gmaneis
    @gmaneis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your attitude toward the whole model railway idea is fantastic. This makes me think it should be illegal to have as much fun as you are having! Thank you for posting, and greetings from New Mexico, USA. New subscriber.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello to New Mexico and thanks for subscribing, I'm sure the anti fun police will catch up with us eventually!

  • @Joe30101
    @Joe30101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so glad I found this. What your saying is just have fun. the must be this way people sucked all the fun out of the hobby. Thank you.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks we have lots of videos along similar lines, build what you like run what you like as long as you are having fun that's all that matters

    • @Joe30101
      @Joe30101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have lost to much time agonizing over stuff. So after this I decided to just do. Enough already time to get back into the hobby for the fun.

  • @conecuhvalleyttrak
    @conecuhvalleyttrak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent advice. I think model railroading is a hobby where you learn by doing, by getting your hands dirty and building something. When you do that, often you get inspired to build the next thing, and your railroad grows from there - just like yours has.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its evolution I guess, my loft layout is on about version 4

  • @peterbradford5987
    @peterbradford5987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video.

  • @wadepenley5201
    @wadepenley5201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im from America and you just put my mind at ease. Thank you sir

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad we could help one of our US cousins, thanks for watching

  • @rs6383
    @rs6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice basic layout without all the bells & whistles. Not to fancy but a lot of fun to run. I like the idea of not planning out a layout . Have tried to figure out everything on paper, spending hours on different layouts designs, wasting time & getting frustrated.
    Came to the conclusion just do it. It works for me.
    I like to use recycled items ,supplies & save hundreds of dollars.
    I did a 20'x32' room high shelf H.O. two track in my home on a budget build.
    Now I'm building a h.o. layout in a spare bedroom. Also on a budget with no definite plans.
    It is enjoyable creating you own hand crafted layout.
    I have collected a bunch of N scale track, locomotives & rolling stock for my next project. Not sure on type or size of layout , should be fun to do.
    Thanks for the video & sharing it.
    🚂🚃🚃🚃

  • @TheHeinFischer
    @TheHeinFischer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a breath of fresh air! Your ideas are creative , and I like the idea of the cardboard base. After looking at so many model railway websites, blog, vlog, forums and eBooks, this is "bestest" I have personally seen. My nature is to plan for ever, so your idea of start building, with what you have is great. I also have a couple of locos and couches from childhood, and would like to set it up more permanently. Greeting from the beautiful Cape Town, SA.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, Heinrich,
      Great to hear from South Africa, and thank you so much for the kind complements! Are they SA Locos? can you send us some pictures please!? Hope you have enjoyed our other videos aswell. Thanks again, Mike & Douglas

    • @TheHeinFischer
      @TheHeinFischer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Mike and Douglas. I have gone through all the video, up to S01E14 :), and also excited about your preparation for the show. In the 70's and 80's , Lima made South African Locos, and in South Africa, they are quite in demand at the present for some 'roaders. Yesterday, I built a 4m x 1m (13ft x 3ft) bench, and laid the trackes. I didn't go the cardboard root, as I already had the wood. The minister of internal affairs couldn't believe that it came up so quickly , and looks so nice. I shall post a link later, first need to get my online e-social skills mastered. Here is a link of a SAR set that was made by LIMA. 3.bp.blogspot.com/-FiFmNRFu318/TxpZhZhbp-I/AAAAAAAAAnQ/kI--Nl9vQZY/s400/limasar001.jpg

    • @sarmodelrailroad8463
      @sarmodelrailroad8463 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Progress in pics Heinrich goo.gl/photos/v6Bxg4LvEzL6EQu9A

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi that's great, glad you have got something under way. Yes please do send us some pics when you have them?

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great looking track plan and layout, look forward to seeing an update.

  • @terencebennison6275
    @terencebennison6275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a 73 year old newbie to model railway layout building and I've been humming and hawing and being held up by just the things you have talked about in this video. It makes total sense to me, especially the "just do it" idea. To be honest I have looked at a lot of brilliant layouts on line, but they have all "over faced " me with the quality, maturity and finished result of them. I know that I need to do as you advise and just get on with it! I have a 9' by 9' box room, I have trains so the first thing is the base board, incidentally I like the cardboard on your layout, sure keeps the weight down. Thanks again. Terry.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Terry, I didn't start until I was 55. Take a look at our latest videos of what can be achieved by keeping it simple. The perfect layouts just put people off, build it to a level you enjoy. Have a look at a Barrie Davis video, no scenery even but he has fun. 9x9 I would keep the track plan simple but achievable, second hand track is fine ignore the doom merchants, peco points are best. Have fun. Mike

    • @terencebennison6275
      @terencebennison6275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BudgetModelRailwaysHii Mike, will do, well I already do, I'm a subscriber already, this video has refreshed me. Thanks again. Terry.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let us know how you get on, thanks for subscribing

  • @Beatlefan67
    @Beatlefan67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I concur completely!

  • @wills_corner
    @wills_corner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always use Bachmann's Nickel Silver EZ-Track, just so I can change the layout whenever I want if stuff gets boring

  • @amywhite9386
    @amywhite9386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the concept of the plan as you go approach. As our skill level and imagination increases, or we so something we like, I love the flexibility to modify my layout. Thanks for sharing

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    See at present I know that Money and space keep me from having a layout so I live vicariously through youtubers like you and I build up a file on my computer with ideas I have as time passes so that in future once a space in my home clears out and extra money is had If I want to make a layout I know what I want in it and I can go from there as far as planning is concerned. Plus as a Miniature Wargamer the terrain ideas from Layouts are helpful for that.

  • @jvanamb
    @jvanamb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree fully with your DON'T PLAN it philosophy, but I'd add DON'T PLAN IT, DO IT.
    For decades now I have been using a concept we in the U.S. call TOMA (The One Module Approach) which is consistent with your idea. Great video. Crack on.
    I'll SEE YA' DOWN THE LINE,
    Jim

  • @pb7890
    @pb7890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent im going to do something like that !!

  • @johndavies6769
    @johndavies6769 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the straightforward clear advice

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John. Sometimes it's better just to have a rough plan and get on with it than plan and procrastinate?

  • @philipstickings7109
    @philipstickings7109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agree with your sentiments entirely. 👍

  • @kevingreen4054
    @kevingreen4054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you it's very helpful, I've got the same size piece of wood, and bust playing around with model train software, and seeing your "triangle" or curved main track, I'm going to play around with your idea. Thanks again

  • @brucemou1
    @brucemou1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your set up and your explanations. Looks great!

  • @davidsheriff8989
    @davidsheriff8989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see you again....great advice...I wonder how many start off with big ideas only to regret later..

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what happened to my loft layout hence the current re build

  • @geoffreylee5199
    @geoffreylee5199 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wing it, is a common method... as the plan develops the purpose comes to you. Good one!

  • @petermahon4641
    @petermahon4641 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do enjoy your channel. Not my scale but I always learn things and gain insghts into new approaches :-)

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the end I gave up with N it was just too small, and shunting was tricky, and even second hand it was expensive, so went back to OO

  • @cartersense
    @cartersense 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm gonna do one on a standard flat interior 32 inch door. I've got an idea and I like the no plan route.

  • @martinpook5707
    @martinpook5707 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, better to get on with things and let them develop, you'll then discover the area of modelling that you really enjoy. And don't just spend money. Keep it up.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your support. I find unlike a lot of people that I like most aspects of the hobby, which could be expensive, but I don't have a lot of money to spend, hence the budget angle.

  • @dicklammers7307
    @dicklammers7307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love these small shunting layouts. You did a great job by keeping it all cheap which saves money for other layout projects. Still I have a question or two: 1) where do you get the basic material on which you built the layout? 2) is it your goal to fasten this particular project to others... How you manage that? Best regards, Dirck Lammers, Middelburg, the Netherlands

  • @086DEN
    @086DEN 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff lad, enjoyed that

  • @NixTrains
    @NixTrains 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You think loads like me! Lol! Very helpful for many- who just love "to do with what they have". There are many like that lad who need the precious guidance / encouragement! We all do! Cheers! Particularly for this ideology!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks for your support, we try and make things simple, compact ,quick and cheap.

    • @NixTrains
      @NixTrains 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks indeed for your support too.

  • @Batesandrw
    @Batesandrw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your down to earth approach.

  • @williamrathwell766
    @williamrathwell766 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video I will try some of your ideas.

  • @brucemou1
    @brucemou1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful job! I got some good ideas from your layout.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Bruce, thanks for your support. Take a look at our other videos for more ideas. How are you getting on with your layout?

  • @simon01837
    @simon01837 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I built my entire layout matching your philosphy . Great video.

    • @simon01837
      @simon01837 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry what I meant to say that the layout is finished to a point but i have been building with the same point of view as your self . My layout is 10 years in the making 5 years off here and there , but started in 2007. I will gladly send you some pics . It only took ages to make because I wanted it to. But all on a scrap find it in a skip or boot sale budget. And lots of ebay. Lots of remodeling of buildings and tonnes of mistakes , but so much fun learning ,youtube tutorial vids are like the dad that helps you get into a hobby . Again 10/10 for your channel , I to thought running any stock on any eara and no planning at all was just me ,actually enjoying my TOYS and not being an old railway fart . Lol sorry no offence meant to my subscribers x

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see where you are coming from, well in that case we agree 100% on our approach to model railways, mistakes and having fun certainly sums up how we started. At the end of he day it's all just playing with trains

  • @southjersey10
    @southjersey10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I toss between coming close to prototypical and total free lancing. I’m now starting to build small layouts for kids to get hands on experience operating layout. This is where not planning a layout and just building it works well. Kids have imaginations and why not as adults use imagination when constructing a layout. Also have a constraint of space helps to really use those brain cells to come up with a layout that is interesting and fits within the constraints.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent idea to encourage and inspire a new generation, well done

  • @thegreypenguin5097
    @thegreypenguin5097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually use a free software on mac. It is super helpful because it gives you a list of what you need. This helps estimate the cost and know what you actually need to buy. There is almost endless options for gauge and brand.

    • @Wilayaat
      @Wilayaat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you let me know what this software is please? I have a Mac and would love to have a go at it!

  • @Calvertfilm
    @Calvertfilm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to agree with you 100%. Just do it. Planning never seems to work once you lay the track out anyway. Laying track first lets you know where most of the other things go. Then buildings and landscape items go in after that. As you say it evolves, and you may change track design. Run your trains on it and make sure they can navigate any obstacles due to overhanging, and points/curves not to close to platforms. If you need to change scenery, just do it. Not hard is it, and most layout evolve even when built? Plenty of good tips here. Laurie.

  • @user-mp2tl8zv2t
    @user-mp2tl8zv2t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good.

  • @nutsnbolts77
    @nutsnbolts77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    spot on

  • @TheJpec361
    @TheJpec361 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stumbled across this one...brilliant concept and a brilliant layout.
    I had a laugh when you said you were chuffed with 30 subscribers to the channel...early days!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, yes at 12.5k we have come on a bit since the A!

  • @bonnywoodinstruments
    @bonnywoodinstruments 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, i like your thinking ! planning is fine but can also limit creativity if to rigid. Evolving a layout as you build it brings new and exciting ideas and makes it more enjoyable to build. Mark :)

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Mark, thanks for your support. I find I'm much more creative when I don't plan. I like going in my local second hand model rail shop and seeing what inspires me, esp buildings.

  • @id10tcertified
    @id10tcertified 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a heap of used track and some buildings etc and roughly set it up until I got close to what I can build in the space I have and even after that have changed it three more times: I'm only just now after two months starting to cut and lay foam... it all started when I bought a used Minic set the same as I had when a kid and recalled the level crossing that integrated into it.
    Buy job lots, just make sure it's good usable and sell off what you don't use, quite often you'll get your money back. Btw, mine is size of my dining room, the base is four hollow and braced doors and will be on a pulley so it lifts giving 6'6" head space under it.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds epic! I have bought job lots several times and kept what I wanted and sold the rest off for more than I paid for it.

  • @nedmerrill5705
    @nedmerrill5705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the "no plan, just do it" approach works for some people but not all. I need _some_ idea of where the trains are going to go to get started, but I sort of free-lance when it comes to working out details of where the tracks go in switching areas and such; I try the tracks and structures this way and that until it looks right.

  • @Finnertoncentralmodelrailway
    @Finnertoncentralmodelrailway 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im exactly the same mine was not planned too but ive got loads of hornby buildings and platforms that are of no use to me points too some stuff broken or butchered in some way that im going to get rid of if your interested? Reminds me i need a clear out for new stuff haha.

  • @wills_corner
    @wills_corner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:27 DAMN that's a cog railway incline if I've ever seen one!

  • @fredwest7436
    @fredwest7436 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great layout .
    Was it inspired by the Gum Stump & Snowshoe Railroad perhaps ?

  • @iandouglas451
    @iandouglas451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the concept - can you help me with a train, i am not fussy but it has to work well (00) - i guess any sales from major retailers like hattons?

  • @ModelMinutes
    @ModelMinutes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Took me about 5 minutes before I realised it was N gauge! I never planned a layout when I had space for model trains, just let the creativity flow

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've heard of people planning a layout for two years, and even met one chap who had been planning, contemplating and buying for ten years, but still hadn't started his layout!

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Budget Model Railways wow! Planning or procrastinating?! Hahaha

    • @tsu8003
      @tsu8003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been building my.2 metre by 1 metre diorama for 2 years but keep having new ideas to add to it. I've dismantled the entire thing more times than I can remember. The good thing is it saves me having to do the ballasting!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like my loft layout

  • @dutchbeef8920
    @dutchbeef8920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribed after seeing this video 👍🏻

  • @alastairwoolley4227
    @alastairwoolley4227 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would echo other comments about the very refreshing approach to model railways. After all a lot of it is about enjoyment rather than 100% absolute historical accuracy or never making mistakes. Also the pace of the commentary is very good. I get fed up with the terrible, pedestrian dialogue that accompanies so many videos.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your support, we try very hard to make enjoyable videos to reflect as you say that model railways should be about fun not 100% perfection

  • @thisisbob1001
    @thisisbob1001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep. Just start.!

  • @jazzman1626
    @jazzman1626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Planning was the one thing I was really dreading. I was going to try a computer program, but I find them too complicated. Now, I just have a very rough idea of what I want. In a ‘U’-shaped layout, loosely based on the closed part of the Edinburgh to Carlisle line, the Waverley station will just be a representation of it, not a strictly followed copy. The other end will be a small station long since gone (sigh). Along the way, I would like to put a girder bridge and Instead of building an elevated line, I intend to leave a gap in the baseboard and use that to hopefully build a gorge with a waterfall. Apart from that, I don’t have any plans drawn out.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have the basic concept in your head , I find its easier then to start fiddling around with bits of track

  • @davidsheriff8989
    @davidsheriff8989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raised background will give it added dimension..but this is great

  • @nigelcarter9503
    @nigelcarter9503 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel is great

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Nigel, many thanks glad you enjoy our work. Don't forget to send us an email to subscribe to our free e newsletter BMRNewsletter@gmail.com

  • @TheGamingEevee8
    @TheGamingEevee8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got everything now to do it, but stuck on the planning stage, I think I will do what you said and just go with whatever is in my head.

  • @johnkuzma7066
    @johnkuzma7066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing I really dont get is when people plan garden railways, atlest with an indoor railway there is no possibility of a huge rock getting in the way of the holy track plan.

  • @robot7759
    @robot7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's simply about space, square footage if you like, and scale.

  • @AndreaBoost
    @AndreaBoost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video

  • @tsu8003
    @tsu8003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just go with what fits your space and experiment with different layouts until you are happy with what you decide on and build around it temporarily as you will no doubt find other ideas as you go along.

  • @garryfish3169
    @garryfish3169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of cardboard do you use for the base

  • @theblytonian3906
    @theblytonian3906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Procrastination in pursuit of perfection is a flawed 'plan'. I concur that the singular most important thing is to just start. Get some track down and something running to have fun. A standard oval with a couple of crossovers and shunting or section or Hornby Trackmat layout will do. Simple, quick, affordable. Ideas, aspiration and creativity will stem from there flowing from the hands on experience.

  • @michaeljago6620
    @michaeljago6620 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How well does the train go up the hill?

  • @DenisineD2
    @DenisineD2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it interesting for not pricy and easy way to storage layout...guess i could build module units that i could store easily since i miss place where i am now...N scale is amazing

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Denis, the module concept can work quite well. I've had to give up N now, it's just to small fur me and not being able to effectively shunt is a problem.

  • @geckophoto1
    @geckophoto1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is fantastic! I am disabled and do not have a great budget as I only get Benefits to pay bills etc.. so not much left to afford to try build a model railway! I have the space in a loft but every site I have looked at to help reduce the price of wood used etc. is going to be very costly. I bought my trains about 25 years ago and moving all the time had to get rid of my 6’ x 4’! now I am going to have a loft space and need to make a safe secure area for myself ( and not drop out of the loft door!) I think I need to go down your road? As I am using a loft the temperature changes greatly, is there a board I should not use?

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Anthony, thanks for the comments. We used plywood as this is less likely to warp, our problem is it's very hot in the summer although we do have a dormer window. Take a look at our other videos and if you email us at BMRNewsletter@gmail.com we will add you to our monthly newsletter. Thanks for watching and let us know how you get on.

    • @bonnywoodinstruments
      @bonnywoodinstruments 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have my layout in the Garage which will be similar to a loft regarding temperature variations. I use chipboard with 25mm thick polystyrene tiles on top of the board as the base of my layout. It seems to help with any warpage and is useful for creating rivers etc. The tiles were cheap to buy on eBay. Hope this helps :)

  • @kae4466
    @kae4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one day a friend said to me kae4466 we are going to build you a train layout( baseboard). we went to 2 hardware stores and bought the following, four screw in bases , four legs that screw into the bases and the basoard itself. i live in a small apartment 600 square feet and the baseboard is a 4foot by 4 foot board. i have 3 ovals of track of different gauges , outermost 3 rail o gauge . ho and n. i also have a village and tunnel. works fine for me .:) i also bookmarked this site and am going to subscribe as well.

  • @chicago90278
    @chicago90278 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this. My floor space is very limited, and this is just pure epicness. If you could maybe do something for HO Scale, (the one I have), that could really help me. Thanks again!

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, so glad we could help. I use the same concept on my own OO/HO layouts, just take your space and see what track plans fit and then design and build from there. Take a look at our recent Homewood Valley vudeo for a min space OO/HO layout. Thanks

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, the same principles work just as well in HO. Define your space, work out a track plan using track on the board, then work out scenery etc round that. A wish list of features both scenic and operational helps as well. Glad we could help.

  • @Kevin-ur7zk
    @Kevin-ur7zk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Informative video, Though I'm have trouble believing its 1 foot wide is that correct? Unless it's N guage. Have you made any vidoes showing how you lay, fix, wire a layout? As I'm a complete beginner. Thanks

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's N gauge. We have lots of videos on laying and wiring track plus most aspects of model railways. Best advice is keep it simple

  • @FredWilbury
    @FredWilbury 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ps love the cardboard I saved all mine from ikea packaging..brilliant

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Fred. I've found my local kitchen appliance store will let me rummage in their recycling and take what I need. Have experimented with using laminations of corrugated card to make base boards, hope to get a video on line at some point. I know what you mean about running trains, I've just built a small loop base just so I can run some trains.

    • @drungo23
      @drungo23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that was the first thing I noticed. Working in IKEA's product quality department and repacking I see soo many of those damn fillers might as well put them to good use lol.
      Also this video truly took the guess work out of my planning. I assume it would be best to start out small and then gradually build on a simple easy concept, while shopping at second hand stores for scenery pieces. I got lucky at my fav consignment shop with a guy that found a semi complete Hawthorne village layout.

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep it simple and let it evolve works for me. Sounds like you have an eye for recycled model railways too

  • @shiftintohigh5564
    @shiftintohigh5564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍😎

  • @paulhorn2665
    @paulhorn2665 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well your statement is a double-edged sword. If you are on a budget, a little planning with a simple track plan makes sense. So its cheaper to draw some tracks and know what you want to built, so you can search for exactly the track-plus safety marge- you need. Planning safes money!

  • @andrewstanley4721
    @andrewstanley4721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi ,i will let you know the details of the Hogwsrts loco once i grt it home and the radius of it and ill send a pic of the work bench area ive got to work with ,hope your safe and well ,andrew

  • @andrewstanley4721
    @andrewstanley4721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm still at the stage of working out what type of track plan i want ,very hard to decide on a good track plan this will be my first major layout plan ,please help with ideas thanks Andrew

    • @BudgetModelRailways
      @BudgetModelRailways  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Andrew, it depends on whether you are planning end to end, shunting or an oval concept. What size do you have please? Whatever you are doing keep it simple, more layouts fail due to overly complex, over ambitious track plans than anything else.