@@Irilia_neko I don’t like to admit it but I used to be addicted to substances for 11 years since high school but never resorted to stealing especially from family though I was heavy into the substances using everyday. It’s something I’m not proud of. I think it’s more down to the person’s character in the end.
Sepsis is a inflamation reaction in a wound internal or external. It can be very deadly... If not treated immediately. And it is very treatable. And no you dont get cancer from it. Sepsis is deadly. Especially if you are in the wilderness. You get a wound and it contacts sepsis. Someone could die from that. But not if you are treated in a hospital.
That just means she got diagnosed with cancer after sepsis. Cancer patients also get tons of opiates. The one thing that screams bs is the renal failure (she'd be delirious af on Percocet with renal failure) and being on dialysis (wheres the fistula?).
My brother was the victim of a scam from a family member. Two of our cousins(twins) convinced him to co-sign on student loans. He was in the Navy at the time and was deployed out on a ship for several months shortly after. During this time, they attempted a single semester and then took the money and went on a few trips to Europe, and various other destinations. Beyond that first semester, the money was never spent on anything school related. My brother came home thinking everything was alright. He married his fiancé and they started building their life as he served his last year on base. It wasn't long after getting married that they found out what happened and found out they were also responsible for paying back the loans and that nothing had been paid. The cousins hadn't paid anything and decided to just live with their mother, not caring about the credit hit. My brother was now stuck paying the loan and interest lest his credit be destroyed. Unfortunately, much of the damage had already been done. When he finished his 4 years, he and his wife tried to buy a home only to be rejected because of the massive unpaid loan on his record. They tried for 2 years to get a home and failed each time. They struggled to even get a car loan. This went on for about 3 years until his mother-in-law stepped in and settled the matter in court. My brother and his wife still had to pay the mother-in-law back, but on their terms and without interest. It took them 4 more years to be able to get a home and sadly, the market became much more expensive in that time. The twins got what they deserved. Their credit was obliterated and they were left responsible for the balance. It has since created a rift in our family between those who support the twins and those who support my brother. Those who support the twins are not my family anymore. Always remember that you don't owe your family. Just because someone shares your blood doesn't mean they deserve your trust. Stay safe out there everyone.
"Those who support the twins are not my family anymore." Wise, because that means they're actually okay with what the twins did. You don't want people like that around.
When I think back, being disabled, living on the street, in a foot of snow, watching my wife and dogs suffer, unable to raise a single penny, it's really hard not to be mad at people like this woman. No one wants to help others, because of people like that woman.
That's exactly right. If I can't truly tell someone's in need and it's hard to tell nowdays. I refuse just cause I know to to many people lie about it just to mske money off people. I'll never give cash. I'll buy gas or food if I can but I'll never hand cash. It's awful people ruin it for everyone every time. It sucks
I have an aunt like this, she is destructive to everyone around her. Even her own son has a restraining order on her, and no one believes her lies anymore. I only hope she finds help someday and overcomes her addiction.
@George Johnson one should read the story on the gofundme and see if everything adds up. established charities can often be terrible at seeing the people in need get them. research any charity because far too often a large part of the money goes to telemarketing or celeb endorsements e
yeah i mean even if legit, gofundme enables people who won't work hard to build up to investing in their ideas themselves, just trying shortcut the process
@George Johnson You need to be carefull with established charities as well. You don't wanna know how much money of large charities is being used to support a massive, unwieldy bureacracy that can rival that of certain governmental agencies, fund idiotic ideas (for example giving machinery to people without giving them the means and/or expertise to maintain and use them), big fat paychecks to the upper management,... In general the larger the charity, the less of the donated money actually gets to the people that it's meant for. To some degree this is logical, a big operation means more costs, but a lot of the money also simply gets wasted.
This stuff is all over the place on twitter too. My rule of thumb is to try finding others who can vet for the person first because there's sadly too many people pretending to be others in suffering. Now if they're someone I know personally then it's much easier to make decisions based on what I know and feel of them
My husband and I had one on 2018 when we had cancer at the same time. My best friend posted it, and kept it updated with pictures, etc. Unlike Jenny’s case, family and friends went with us to appointments, kept us company in chemo, visited us in the hospital, etc. Everyone in our universe knew someone who was in a position to corroborate everything. When people offered to help pay bills, we handed them the actual bill. There are many ways to verify things when they’re true.
Had almost the exact same story happen at my college. A sorority girl came out and said she had some type of cancer. All the sororities and fraternities hosted fundraisers for her care and a bunch of money was raised for her. It finally came out that the whole thing was a complete lie. I don’t know what happened after that but I can imagine she doesn’t have her friends or family around her anymore
This one hits home really hard because my father actually did something incredibly similar. He lied to all of us that he had cancer, which seemed feasible because he was a long time smoker. The only reason we stopped to question anything was because we had already know he was an addict over years and had stolen things from the family. It's unfortunate too because my mother has a brain tumor and he even stole her medication after she had surgery. Neither of us have any contact with him now, but there are still people that believe him over my mother and I and that's a pretty big pain to deal with, it rips a family apart because you try to show your love and care.
It's amazing to think about how one quick check with the law officials and/or doctors would have made this entire story unravel instantly. It's horrifying to think about not only how she duped everyone around her, but that her son grew up thinking he could lose her at any moment. I can't imagine how this will affect him throughout his life. Very good video!
I would straight up cut all connections to her if this was my daughter/wife, I wouldn't even show up for her actual funeral. Losing all that money for a lie is unacceptable, you don't do that to family.
I'm a father and I couldn't even comprehend how her dad felt having his daughter do that to him. I hope my daughter or son would never even remotely pull this sort of horrible act. I can't fathom the heartbreak he felt when he found out that it was all a lie and sick con.
I don't think you understand addiction.if I remember correctly. She was addicted to oxycodin which is nasty. My point being empathy goes both ways. Addicts are good at manulating everyone when they are using so parents are not stupid either.
I find it so frustrating that even ex addicts are justifying/blaming her actions on her addiction - that’s Bullshit. I was an addict for almost a decade and I never would’ve even dreamt of destroying people like this! It’s not the addiction that makes you do it - it’s who you are as a person deep down. Whilst whilst I was a shitty partner, housemate & worker due to always being off my face & spending my rent money on drugs I never stole/robbed people or businesses & I’m so sick of people blaming their addiction for their actions!
There's nothing wrong with helping people, hell I think more people should be willing to help a random stranger; the problem arises when people think they're entitled to help and start expecting others to help. People will forget that the world doesn't owe you anything and expecting as much is only going to cause problems.
I knew a guy like this in college, he had everyone including school admins and family believing he suffered from some obscure terminal disease. A pathological liar, he was fun to be with (very bright and funny) but you literally could not trust a word out of his mouth. In this tragic case I'm amazed the family spent hundreds of thousands but never saw a single invoice, bill, letter or pathology report? No practice or clinic ever called to confirm or change an appointment? I have had family members die (of cancer yes) and we were swamped with paperwork, still finding some years later. No family ever spoke to _any_ of the doctors or specialists she was supposedly seeing to talk about hospice or palliative care arrangements? They never questioned why she never went to a dialysis facility? Did her husband attend a single 'treatment'? Maybe she walked into reception waited a few minutes then left after family did... I understand the con was extensive and played on their trust but the abscence of any evidence at all should have been a big red flag. So saddening that she has ruined not only her life but of so many around her
Hard to see the red flags when your eyes are full of tears... Living with someone who's falling down the addiction hole, you get used to brushing off suspicious activities. It's easier then confronting that someone you love is deliberately manipulating you
@@noahkarpinski1824 I understand. I was with someone who was addicted to alcohol. 6+L wine/day, rehab, ER kidney failure level of addicted. I gave her years of my life and an uncomfortable amount of money/financial support. I really thought I could make a difference if I just tried hard enough. If I gave enough, nurtured and supported her enough not to need it to get past old traumas. We split up after years of arguing about it and she died soon after. (Hooked up with an enabler) Sometimes you have to have these confrontations, keep your eyes open for the truth and your wits about you. I just can't believe that with the sheer amount of evidence lacking, no-one saw it coming. Of course, no-one wants to believe those they love are taking them for a ride, but I suspect in this case (as in mine) it's easier to deceive everyone else if you first deceive yourself. My family was also severely damaged by gambling, so yeah, I'm familiar with addiction and how pernicious it's effects can be. Understandable, but tragic.
@@ared18t yeah and it's extremely common The key is to just show empathy. Addiction is a disease and should be treated instead of villified but on the other hand being around sick people is a terrific way to harm your own wellbeing
The video said that they were driving her to the bank and giving her gobs of money to be used as needed. She must have had her parents just wrapped around her finger.
Ugh. Poor kid will have this crap splattered on his name for years to come. I hope _(against all hope)_ that people will just leave him alone about this since he was a victim. In one of the worst positions too, jesus f:ing christ.
Makes me sick of people like this. I had cancer back at the end of 2017 and the start of 2018 lost part of my left femur / pelvis. I had to learn to walk again from scratch but it turned out they removed muscles that control my hip rotation so I have been left with a half paralyzed leg. Since then i'm permanently on crutches and while out i have to use a wheelchair as unable to walk far. but because i am now relying on my right leg to take 90% of my weight there has caused further complications. Sad to see someone made up they had cancer to get money. This really hit me hard this one and sent my head right back to when I was very poorly. It's a sad world we live in, it really is!
As a patient who's terminal and who's having to see my family grieve for me, it infuriates me she did this to her loved ones, especially her child. Sure, people who haven't been through cancer or don't have a terminal diagnosis are angry, but we are a special kind of angry. Id love to raise just 3k so I could go visit family I haven't seen in years and otherwise won't be able to before I die. She scammed so much out of people to hide her addiction. It was more than stealing money, it was stealing love and stealing trust. Addiction is terrible, but it's no excuse or even explanation. My dad's a recovering addict. He was a terrible person while addicted but nothing like this. He's also accepted that people aren't gonna forgive him for the comparatively minor shit he did. I still don't, but I have a "new" relationship with him, for the sake of both of us with my limited time. I wish you well, disability is hard but we are fighters
How did the husband not know? A kidney being removed leaves a pretty big scar, 3 brain tumors have alot of medicines, no symptoms at home, but he didn't suspect anything? Ive been married 15 years and if my husband got sick and told me he has cancer I would be at every appointment, i cant understand how he wouldnt know.
There's much worse than this. People with pet dogs who were fund raising for treating injuries on their dog which they were causing themselves. It's like all those sci-fi films showing horrid futures except we're already there.
I remember that happened all over Europe with kids, they would deform the kids, break their arms etc to get sympathy for begging. Makes me sick thinking about those repressed memories.
Trust but verify. That is the best nuance to take. Otherwise pure skepticism is how genuine cases lead to preventable deaths, because someone decides to poison the well with "what if she's lying"? This case is the example of the opposite problem of just taking someone at their word instead of verifying. Amazing video Kira, love how much your work has evolved over time!
@@Nabuchodonozord LOL. What a troll. So you belief any and everything? Well I have a house to sell you on Mars, ready for you when you go on musk's doomed rocket trip
But, how do you verify that a friend on Facebook REALLY has cancer. Kira said it himself, no one wants to call bullshit on “the big C”. I think the message is more, “Give, but only what you can afford to lose”
I still think it's strange no one noticed. You say it's because her family loves her, but I think it's because of love I would notice. If my wife had cancer I would be there for her at every appointment and treament. The same goes for any of my children.
idk even if i noticed some stuff i think i would push those suspicions away bc the thought of someone i trust faking something like that would be so hard to believe and i don't think i would want to be the person accusing someone of faking cancer
I would've followed every appointment, read everything, every report, want to know everything so i could find any sliver of hope. How could it not have been noticed?? at the very least, i would read the judgment as well and look at the options as well
IKR? My parents always had at least one of us kids with them for any cancer-related doctor appointments, let alone chemo, radiation, or surgeries to make sure they got good treatment! You don't let someone you love have to face such things alone and just throw money at them.
I'm in a situation that has some similarities to this. My kids mom is an out of control, pathological lying neglectful drug addict. Several months ago she got in another fight with her family and was about to be kicked out. That's when she told them she had cancer (also messaged me the same day). They go from kicking her out to giving her her own little house. Strawberry I've found myself doubting her, and her own father has too. He filed for disability for her and needed her medical records but she failed to provide them. He files anyway and she is rejected. She still won't go get the records for him as if it's too much for her to handle. She has said she won't do chemo or radiation so she's basically forgoing treatment. But she claims to be stage 3 so forgoing ANY form of treatment for cancer is highly suspicious. It's so awful because it really feels like a last ditch effort to manipulate everyone in her life.
Didn't one person notice that despite having so much cancer, she never lost any weight or even her hair? "It's too bad you have cancer, Jenny. What are you? A size 40 now."
Man, I remember this. I've been living in Alabama for the last 18 years, and this was all over the news. Funny, because this wasn't what got the governor, Robert Bentley, ousted. Turns out, he was having an affair with his comms director, Rebekah Caldwell Mason, who was greatly compensated for her silence.
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Coz tolerance builds up real quick... Plus everyone is different... I require large amounts of anesthetic for ops and have wakened during surgery despite telling Dr beforehand and once hadn't gone out cold by couldn't move before eye surgery... Managed to spit out "I'm awake" as the scalpel neared my eye.
If she's getting percocet with 5/325, @ 30 that's only 150mg of oxycodone. I'm on a daily cocktail of 60mg oxycodone and 120mg of morphine and that hardly takes any pain away. Plus you build up a tolerance to it over time. What the killer is to her is the 9750mg of Tylenol to her liver each and every day. If she has been taking that amount for that duration of time, her liver has probably rotted away, and she'd be dead.
As someone who is only alive today thanks to the tremendous kindness of strangers (have had stage 4 nerve cancer for almost 2 decades since I was I was 5) this story really hits deep….
@@bronzyriot892 Says “Ha ha ha youre joking because stage 4 cancer last 1 year at most!” “Very good scam” Hahaha, you’re an idiot who has no idea what he is talking about, go do some research before you spout some nonsense. I mean Jesus, the first thing that comes up when you look up “How long can stage 4 cancer last?” You get this quote “Many patients with stage 4 cancer can live for YEARS” key part there being the plural. I have a form of childhood nerve cancer called neuroblastoma, I was diagnosed with stage 4 meaning the cancer has metastasised into my bones. I have never been in remission, I still have the cancer in my bones (Ie. Spine, hips, pelvis, and both femurs.) at the age of 24. I was diagnosed at the age of 5. Feel free to look up Neuroblastoma and Memorial Sloan Kettering in New York where I went from Australia for treatment. Sloan Kettering is a specialist in this field, and are the only reason I am alive today. Nice try though, next try google searching before making an idiot of yourself. Nice job liking your own comment btw XD How up your own ass can you be?
@@bronzyriot892 “Ha ha ha youre joking because stage 4 cancer last 1 year at most!” “Very good scam” your comments right? Did you look up what stage 4 means? “Stage IV. This stage means that the cancer has spread to other organs or parts of the body. It may be also called advanced or metastatic cancer.” Meaning the cancer has Metastasised into my bones. I can check my bone scans and still see the cancer still there, so how would I not be in stage 4 when it started a tumorous cell in my stomach area? If you seriously think I’m faking then I can link you a news story on me, but that really shouldn’t be needed considering how much I’ve already proven you have no clue what you are talking about.
Lying to your husband, parents, and community about dying is cruel and miserable behavior; lying to your *child* about dying is unforgivable evil. She doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as her child after putting him through one of the cruelest things we have to go through in losing our parents.
This is a great narration style Kira, even if I could expect where the story might turn, you revealed nothing until the critical moments. Love makes people ignore the obvious warning signs. Why wasn't her mom let in the buildings? (Also, how did the staff there not notice this woman coming in, presumably sit in the lobby for an hour doing nothing, and leave with no patient). How did the husband not see any of the actual medical bills? Why did nobody see the lack of effects of chemo? How did her husband not notice her lack of prescription medicines? Seriously though more than $500,000 on drugs. One hell of an addiction...
They never said the mom wasn't allowed in the buildings. She said "I never saw her go back with the Doctor. I mostly dropped her off and let her go." Given the nature of dialysis treatments, which take up to three or four hours and needs to be performed three or so times a week, the daughter almost certainly just told her mom to go home because of how much time it would eat up to sit in on her treatments. Just dropping her off and driving off is perfectly reasonable on the mom's part.
Sepsis doesnt cause cancer! lol. You think her husband would notice she didnt go to hospital for days on end for treatment and no kidney removal scar! He must have been in on it or really stupid?
The price is artificially inflated because of middle men(doctors, big pharma, dealers etc)/the drug war. In a fully legal market, these drugs would be much cheaper.
I’m a recovering alcoholic, I understand how far addiction can take you and how surrealism can become your reality. However, don’t most of us have a line we wouldn’t cross? I think there were several here for me personally. I’m also a little confused why her father was keeping her husband as well? Especially if her mother was the one taking her to all her appointments?
Doing a whole lot of assuming here, but likely all the money the husband was making was going into her addiction and he was likely working so much that he didn't really get to verify the story. It's a pretty fucked up lie to tell your husband and your kid, but here we are.
Yeah, heroin addict in recovery here, I would never Another addict friend of mine has actual cancer, is in a back brace and a wheelchair and has spinal issues needing surgery I have to care for him daily and I and he has NEVER used this not lies like that as an excuse Draw the line at hurting others Petit theft is one thing but this Is horrific
As a recovering addict, I can say I'm very saddened, but not shocked that she would go to such lengths. Once the lie started, she probably felt there was no going back, and as the drug abuse spirals, rational thoughts and morals are high jacked by the addiction. You quite literally become a different person. Your actions are guided only by getting your next fix, because you've rewired your brain to believe the drugs are the only means of survival. Absolutely not an excuse for her actions however. I've served my time, made my amends, and had to be held accountable for my actions during my addiction. I hope those 25 months in prison were good for her.
I agree. Calling what she had "painkillers" is the most american thing ever... Even with big injuries and multiple broken bones you don't get that stuff in most of Europe. I think she is only part fault for the whole fiasco. But i don't know her so i cant judge.
My husband and I both had cancer at the same time in 2018. My first thought reading this was… how did people not notice that none of the hallmark physical changes took place? We both lost weight, lost all of our hair, spent time in hospitals (where people visited), had company at chemo appointments, had obvious surgeries and recovery periods, had visible chemo ports… and I could go on and on. I can’t think of any form of cancer where you look and act normal and healthy throughout.
My mom passed from cancer last week and its killing me, coming down to the end she looked incredibly frail and sick. Theres no way shes been battling cancer for the past 3 years and looked that rotund and healthy. Her family is gullible af, no one went to any of her appointments? My mom never went to an appointment alone. Jenny is sickening af.
I'm sorry for your loss. Nothing really helps, only time. Lots of time. I'll challenge the idea that you can't battle cancer and be rotund. That just isn't true. Also, I attended most of my appointments alone. Sometimes, the individual just wants to deal with it alone. But as a general rule, they should have known based on her responses. Definitely sickening for anyone that has been touched by the disease, of which is most people, either themselves or close loved ones.
I attended all my appointments alone when I had cancer as an adult. the hospital really freaks me out and I get very paranoid about scaring my loved ones so I never allowed anyone to come with me. definitely not the norm from what I've seen but doesn't mean someone's lying
Holy shit, what a wild story. Thanks for the very interesting video, Kira. It was perfect to watch while drinking my morning coffee. Your style of narration hits just right. I cant imagine scamming not only strangers, but your own family out of thousands of dollars, using their kindness like that.
I've lived with addicts. They've borrowed money, and never repaid it. They've sold their game consoles to multiple different friends/family members, then turned around and sold it again online. I've had valuable video games disappear overnight along with any cash in my wallet. I ended up having to get a metal safe just for my prescription medication. And much more. But damn, this makes what I've been through seem like a joke in comparison. I'm not blaming it all on addiction. The addicts that stole from me and my family were assholes before they got hooked, and when I suffered from addiction myself I never stole anything. I also once knew a serial thief who didn't have any substance addiction. I hope she got help for her addiction, but in all honesty even if she stays clean she will likely try to continue this behavior on a smaller scale.
Really interesting video m8. Really professionally produced aswell. I find it fascinating that these people only get a few years in prison after literally destroying others lives forever.
Fraud is not prosecuted in the correct way it is viewed as a white collar crime and none violent in nature. There needs to be a greater emphasis put on the scope of the damage done by the fraud. They also need to look at what you took from your victims ie. their time, their money, and what they could have done with those 2 assets instead of the fraud. IMO if your fraud means a person needs to work for 3-4 years to pay off the debt they acrued from your fraud that is where the prison sentence should start as a minimum if they have no ability to provide you with restitution. We aren't even factoring in the emotional or psychological violence brought against her victims. How many times did her father, mother, son, husband and close friends lose sleep over her situation? How many relationships did they damage? Further an alarmingly high number of people do not go after those who defrauded them because the internet hate machine will just call them an idiot who deserved it. Afterall its your fault for having empathy and believing someone and not the person who defrauded you's fault for doing so. We need to get rid of that stigma and increase the punishment for fraud if they can't make restitution. I would fully support Jenny having to work and getting her wages garnished for the rest of her life or until she has made those that she hurts full again whichever happens first.
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I had an uncle like that. Lied and stole 100s of thousands of my grandmother, who was, at one point in her life, really well of. The idiot in question was a high ranked police officer. When it came out, everybody, including his two sons, dropped him. He died a good decade or so ago. From lung and brain cancer. Alone. Suffering for years in agony. And no one cared or went to his funeral
As someone who has had so many people in my family die of cancer, I almost lost my brother in too close of a call (solo dad of 3) and the hell we went through it makes me beyond angry. And for the love of god someone give that poor boy a haircut.
As a man who lost both my parents in my teenage years from cancer, I question my humanity on what kind of "human" could possibly do something like this.
What a sickening monster of a person. I'll bet she had a circle of people, none of which knew her from childhood. Because this is definitely a craft she perfected over years of practice on other innocent people who offered her gratitude and compassion.
@@WeltLocos well addiction can definitely give someone the drive to do something sick like this. But I don’t think it magically gives you whatever skill and charisma are needed to keep a lie like this going for so long. Shes probably a pathological liar or something.
So many red flags. How did 2 federal judges fail to have a clerk look up the supposed lawsuit on pacer? How could politicians get ahold of the settlement money when they're nowhere in loop concerning a settlement? Where was her health insurance (91% of Americans have health coverage...did she not?).
I knew a woman like this. After getting large amounts of money and a trip to the USA to "meet a specialist" her cancer miraculously went away due to clean living and good vibes.
I can't believe that nobody asked where her fistula for the dialysis was. It's a big goddam port for a blood cleaning machine, they put it on yer arm, and it sure as hell isn't something you'd miss, even as a casual observer. (There is a type of dialysis that is abdominal, but I don't know that this one would have been smart enough to look that far into it.)
Her story claimed that she got cancer after dirty instruments for a biopsy... Did nobody think to ask... why was she supposed to be getting a biopsy, in the first place?
Because despite what is often suggested through the filter of the internet, outside this relatively small shoutbox, large swathes of human civilisation are well meaning but unfortunately naive.
Someone like her, addicted and broken...I always find it so sad how they don't feel any guilt. Guilt is a sign you still care about how others feel about you (this includes your own sense of what you think of yourself). She's completely lost her interest in how others view her besides tricking them, and has basically no love or interest in them. Addictions can really just sever someone's connections to others making your whole life about the euphoria chase and anything that gets in the way just can't compare to that thing, so it merely becomes a nuisance, even if it's your own family. The things you can do as if they're nothing once you've totally surrendered yourself to it and lost any interest in others... it's just pathetic and sad. Even if she somehow managed to fix her addiction I doubt she'd try to start connecting with others again because all that waits for her their is guilt and shame beyond what most people could ever stand. The only kinds of people you can connect with at that point are those who have been or are like you and understand what you did. Her life is so utterly destroyed because she let herself get so consumed by that addiction she disconnected with any sense of morality or caring about how others might feel about her and consequently enabled herself to do horrendous things as if it was nothing.
@Jamie Last You look at the grand canyon and if you told someone a stream of water did it it would sound ridiculous if they didn't already understand why. Maybe addiction turning someone into a monster seems ridiculous to you, but as someone who has seen and experienced some of that first hand, it's really not surprising. It's not gonna magically turn an angel into a demon, but it's a slow gradual process that destroys your humanity piece by piece as you let go of just a little bit more each time. It's not like that sort of thing even excuses what they did in any way, but it's very real how your mind can be corroded and you can lose yourself. It's important to acknowledge some of what causes this shit to happen, because if we don't identify the problem, we take no steps in our life to combat it. We just go "Oh I guess I'm just a shit person" and give up.
@PJ Wille I think it’s neither valid to excuse her actions on her addictions nor entirely blame her actions on her addiction. Certainly addiction can cause people to not act like themselves & to show their worst characteristics, but someone like this had something sociopathic in them already. They lacked empathy already. It is a nature PLUS nurture situation. The addiction worsened something already effed in her psychology.
My father has grade 4 brain cancer and I find this extremely disgusting to lie about this. I take care of him everyday, drove him to radiation 45 min each way everyday and continue to take him to doctor and medical appointments. I watched other patients with brain cancer go to radiation and it’s something that I wish on no one. It’s a horrible diagnosis that changes everything for a loved ones family.
A similar thing happened to my mother in her first marriage who was an employee of hmrc. He was incredibly controlling and paranoid that my mother would cheat on him or leave him the he forged his entire life story to make himself seem interesting and more favourable giving her as she says the backstory of the main character in the movie highlander (she and I haven't actually seen the movie so I don't know if it's a good analogy) as his life story claiming he was of high social status and had been the last in his blood line. He even lied to her saying his brothers had died of cancer even though he never actually had any. This didn't end here when she started to get suspicious of his stories he claimed to have gotten cancer and implored her to quit her job to focus on looking after her. This went on for around 2 years before his mother reached out to her and told her the truth after she had found out herself about her son's lie when my mum confronted him about it he revealed all of the other lies he told her and told her if she left him he would kill himself leading to their divorce. The point of this story is that as Kira said it's more common than you think and people do it for a variety of reasons. Where this story was more focused on the monetary gain of illness. My mother's story is a story of a mentally ill man who can't stand not being in control. It's fucked up and personally even if they don't gain any money or fame from it they should go to prison. They are not well and are harming everyone around them
@@stevenschnepp576 as I said I haven't seen the movie it's how my mother describes his life story in simple terms. I've never really poked her on the subject further as I'm not really interested. It happened all before I was even born about 10 years ago and she doesn't like talking about it. The whole story has only been drip fed to me my entire life. I don't know where he is from or if he is Scottish or not. I've only been shown a photo of him and given the story I wrote here that's really it. I've never met the guy. If it wasn't for my own father and my brother's father retelling the story to me separately almost identical fashion I wouldn't even believe the story myself.
From my understanding she most likely have different sources. With that much of pill buying I can't imagine one source keeping stock up without alerting authorities for the last 3 or more years.
The fact she didn't want anyone to go into her 'medical appointments' with her is the biggest red flag regarding her family. I don't think anyone I know wouldn't want their nearest and dearest by their side - it's just natural.
They probably took her to the hospital and she probably lied to them saying they weren't allowed to accompany her in because of the health risk to other patients in the ward or some shit. keep in mind she would go to appointments and sit in the hospitals lobby for an hour and then come out. Her family was probably sitting outside waiting in a car while she was doing that whole show.
@@BType13X2 Yeah it was probably something like that. Don't underestimate an addict's ability to lie. It's a required skill to master if you want to keep the addiction going.
@kogepanm And you would be confronted with doctor patient confidentiality where they absolutely refuse to tell you anything about her or her "treatment" that is a thing .
@kogepanm exactly as the person above me said, you’d get absolutely nowhere. I’m not even sure they’d be allowed to confirm that the person was their patient. You can’t just get on the phone and get people’s personal records.
Are you dumb ? People can either lies, or they just had trust in her because she was their own family If your wife or mom would say i wanna do that alone you should trust her and say ok, not trying to see if everything she said now was true because she don't want you to see to suffer for example People really think they would see everything and would understand before anyone
So where was the husband in all this? If my wife said she was on dialysis or had any illness, I'd be trying to learn more about how to care for her. First thing you'd find is a lack of IV needle (or whatever they use) holes on her arms. Your spouse can be in the room with you during doctor visits and treatments. Did she ask him to wait outside for something that isn't very embarrassing? Dialysis tends to be pretty painful, but the wife didn't want her husband with her for support? The husband knew dialysis was painful, but didn't insist he be with her to support her? Either this is a very uncaring and detached husband or he was complicit.
Maybe she told him it's okay, I don't need/want you in there/see me like that etc etc. Maybe he was taking care of the kid, the household, trying to earn as much additional money as he could with one or several jobs. And you don't automatically know something about dialysis. I don't sh*t about it and what to look for, and why would I if as Kira mentioned it's a person I have known and trusted for a long time? Yes, he could have googled it, asked a doctor, read a book and so on unless he was busy with several jobs or whatnot. But to what end? It's not gonna magically cure all those cancers and tumors. He probably trusted her and the doctors. Not everyone in this world goes out of their way to question everything and pretend to be a know-it-all. I understand the need/wish to understand the whole picture, especially if there is any indication of someone being "in" on this. But if I just go by this video we simply know too little about these circumstantial questions. So you accusing him of being either uncaring or complicit is jumping to conclusions and as black and white as it gets.
@@smithgdwg How do you know? You have a sticker on your head saying "cancer positive" when you have it? You guys know so much about it? Like, how? You watching medical shows all day? Or you google for cancer signs each day when you wake up, while sipping your coffee? All your relatives having cancer for you to be such big experts? Come on now, don't be silly. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that an ordinary person who isn't working in the medical field knows nothing about it until they get confronted with it personally, and even then there are probably different layers and expressions of it. You guys are really jumping to conclusions there.
You have gone from gaming vids, to important vids .. Now, when i see you have posted something, I know I should watch it, not for fun, but for knowledge ... TY for your work. Keep on. God Bless.
Who pays a family member over $500k for "cancer treatment & medical bills".. in straight cash? If he was helping with that much money.. wouldnt you want to just pay the bills yourself?
What I want to know is what exactly was the plan, if she was telling everyone that she's about to die and it's untreatable, what did she think would happen when she was still kicking around months, years later? Doesn't look like she gave herself an out.
There are so many kinds of cancer (she claimed to have two, I think - tumors in her brain and in her abdomen) and cancer can go into remission. She kinda set it up to play the long game with mention of 'experimental treatments.' She'd probably claim one or both cancers went into remission (but she still needs dialysis so keep sending her money!) and then sadly report that either one of the cancers came back or she developed a new one or some other condition.
I contracted fungal sepsis a few years ago. I was in a diabetic coma and had to be incubated in my bed. This collapsed my left lung, and my medical team narrowed down the source to this. Its in my medical record. After I woke up and recovered, I went back to the fire station so I could find out who the paramedic was that incubated me. His decision saved my life, and I don't blame him for what ended up happening. Im alive. I took a picture of me in the coma and me a few months after. I wanted them to know what they did for me.
@@brookelynnwu8016 I meant I took the pictures to the fire station so that they could see how sick I was, not that I took pics of myself. Not smart, bro.
This is so, so infuriating to me as someone who’s currently living with an injury that isn’t getting any better. I want to scream at people being rightfully skeptical of me and the pain I’m in every day + the lack of progress recovery-wise but also I know that horrible people like this have made it so it’s a genuine concern for many. It just sucks all around. I feel for her family, I feel for everyone that was scammed by her, and I really feel for my fellow injured/disabled people that have to live with constant scrutiny because of these monsters.
He must have known. I'm curious why he was barely mentioned in this video. Maybe they separated early in this trainwreck of a story, wouldn't surprise me at all.
How she can do that WHILE having a child to raise is beyond me... There's hitting bottom, and then there's just being a shitty person on top of all that.
....man everyone that bought the SCOTUS judge coming down to the state personally clearly didn't bother to even check the Wiki page for SCOTUS.... that would of made me go 'nope'
This is what happens when as a people we stop correcting people. Shame has its place, so does shunning when someone is poison. As a people we have lost something.
I wonder if she is severely sociopathic or went too far down the tunnel, lie after lie after lie, digging herself an ever growing hole. Curious case and nice structured video, Kira!
as someone who is married, how can you not know your spouse is lying about an extreme medical issue.... if she's that public about a medical issue everything is tied between you both, finances, bills, paperwork, appointments, medical supplies, seeing deterioration of the one you spend the most time with, etc. Even legal issues concerned with a terminal diagnosis or guardianship. Hell just from me going to the ER once, my wife knew 8 different ways. There's no way he didn't know too unless he's the most detached husband in the world. He never thought to go with her to one appointment for support? No don't give him an excuse, he's guilty too. Lock his a** up
There's no way he didn't know. No way to not notice a lack of surgery wounds, never going to Dr appointments, or lack of medical supplies. Sepsis is almost certainly something you'd be hospitalized for.
Opiate addiction is no joke, my mother is addicted to percocets and stole thousands of dollars from me, at one point selling my car without permission because she needed money for percs. It’s devastating being family watching this happen to someone.
I'm battling stage 3 cancer.. lost my job, my mom is disabled and we are nearing homelessness. Have a Gofundme but haven't raised a dime yet. As someone who is in the position this woman claimed to be in and truly needing the help, this makes me absolutely sick. Then to use God in her blasphemy? Wow.. real piece of work.
The opioid crisis in America is horrendous. I'm not excusing what Jenny did at all, but the more you look into the pharmaceutical companies who exploited vulnerable people by lying about how addictive their painkillers were, the more disgusting it all becomes.
@@priatalat That is no excuse, i abuse opiods myself and never ripped anyone off or lied to get them. When i run out i simply don't take them until i can afford to buy more without costing my bills and making me homeless. I am tired of people like her ruining it for people like me who can manage their addictions properly and work a full time job to support it. I hate the idea of making something illegal for everyone because some people can't control themselves.
@@wteverisgud so you straddle the line between addiction and abuse. All addicts were where you are now. If you can police yourself that’s great but it’s hardly sustainable for a long period of time. Addiction is a lurker and doesn’t mind waiting in the shadows while you think it isn’t going to manifest itself.
Another banger video, great job, sir. It is sad what addiction will do to a human being, and how much of their life, and the lives of those around them they can destroy.
How many people believed that the politicians were actually stalling to steal the money? It's pretty sad that I have such little faith in the people who are supposed to work for us (politicians) that I thought, "sounds about right.*
When my husband was diagnosed with cancer I needed to drive him to appointments because he was on so many painkillers he was unable to drive himself. I physically took him into the hospital in a wheelchair and attended the appointments with him. I watched as his hair fell out, his legs swelled and his emotions ran amok. I can't imagine how this woman's family could possibly be so blind especially her husband. Unbelievable.
IDK, I still find it weird. The woman enters a building then comes out and says she's about to die. Did the husband or parents not want to talk to the doctors directly and hear all the details? Not out of distrust towards her, but like to learn more about the disease and what could be done to cure it or whathever, you know get involved into what's going on in a more personal way. To me, it's rather frivolous that all they did was send her money and hope it turns out ok. Seems more out of moral obligation than love.
Yeah that's definitely weird. At a bare minimum you'd think the husband would be with her during some of the appointments just to make sure she understands everything she's being told about the treatment, medications etc. A lot of people in that kind of stressful situation just zone out and then can't remember anything later.
I am 100percent sure my wife and parents would want to go to some meetings, want to get the experts' view of the diseases progression, how they could help practically and what the prognosis was. Plus my wife especially would want to be in court every day for a medical claim that could bring millions of dollars our way.
Knowing about your own difficulties I appreciate you making this video. Hope it wasn't to hard to make both in terms of your own experiences and the blood boiling fury I'm sure you felt throughout.
And people still throwing money at strangers. It is fine if you're into helping people who just told you their extremely sad life story, but it would be nice to at least check if anything they said is close to the truth. There is a very thin line between wanting to help people and willingly getting scammed.
Just trying to figure out what the endgame was for this. At some point you'd either have to fess up, or cash out and disappear, and when the people who've given up money include your own elderly parents, I don't know, that's going to be either really hard or disgustingly easy.
Reminds me a video of about a game streamer that literally told people he was dying ..... and like a year later people realized he hadn't died at all and was in fact never even sick. Forget his name of the top of my head.
There are people who don't plan, have no "endgame" and push doing anything about their issues until the ever elusive "tomorrow" or "next week" or "after one more X/Y/Z" etc. Addicts are a highly likely candidate. Pun unintended.
She was addicted to painkillers, and quite heavily at that from what Kira said, there was no engame to this, she just did what her brain thought was needed to fulfil her addiction. That's what addictions do to you, they rob you of your capacity to think and act clearly and logically
Seems like there was more to the story. My dad was sick even before I was born and I grew up knowing all the medical terms and words that went along with his diagnosis. We knew exactly what he had and what kind of treatment was necessary etc etc; especially because sometimes he was in hospitals for long periods of time and my mom and later myself had to do some of the paperwork, sign documents, releases etc. I find it hard to believe that her husband never asked to look at papers or mom and dad never asked her what she had exactly. And if she made up her diagnosis for them than why not just repeat that to the journalist and instead invent sepsis that turns to cancer and "tumors in my brain"?
I have ehlers-danlos and very little family and social connections. Years ago, I attempted to start a YT channel and was immediately accused of faking. I cried and never posted another video. Women like this make it so much harder for those with chronic illness to be taken seriously, especially with rare conditions. It took more than a decade for my diagnosis and I am disgusted she got so little time. Addiction is a monster, and it's impact reaches much farther than the addict.
What I want to know is how she got hooked on opioids? Where did she get the first ones that got her hooked? Doctors overprescribing unnecessary opioids and getting people addicted to them has been a big problem, especially in Alabama, the people giving them out and getting people hooked on them should be the ones going to prison...
Happened to me after an injury went to a pain clinic was on end of life opiates. Fentanyl and oxys and I never ever had taken but the occasional dental pain med. During a gall bladder surgery years b4 it was hell getting off. I had to use suboxone to transition off. My body couldn't take cold turkey once my Dr realized I was addicted they cut me off!!
Whenever an accusation comes out against someone in modern times, I always bring up that there are people who have lied about having cancer. It's not that you shouldn't believe people, it's more that there has to be evidence before you act on the accusations and same goes with people who claim to be terminally ill.
Damn.. That poor little boy.. She put that child in danger!!! What if the people that gave money, came personally trying to get it back.. I would NEVER put my son in that position. I'm sure he also it's harassed and bullied about this also. Hurts my heart a mother would do that, to her own child.
I really think the take home message here isnt as much "trust but always verify" as it is..... "the truth will always come out" Yes people can lie, but I'd rather be the guy who acts in good faith than the guy questioning everyone that ever says anything to me, even a closed love one. Each to their own, and yea.. it is an assassination of your own character if you ever go down this road of lying to those closest to you. It'll be a long road back for her now.
I feel sorry for the father who almost bankrupted himself over a lie. I could never imagine doing that to anyone especially a family member.
Wheelchair bound Vietnam Vet bankrupts himself for the love of his lying, cheating, stealing daughter. Can't imagine.
@@KiraTV1 unreal, I hope they leave her ass behind.
I think you can do more than you think when you have an addictions like this one sadly...
@@KiraTV1 how can a person be that evil
@@Irilia_neko I don’t like to admit it but I used to be addicted to substances for 11 years since high school but never resorted to stealing especially from family though I was heavy into the substances using everyday. It’s something I’m not proud of. I think it’s more down to the person’s character in the end.
Sepsis doesn't turn into cancer ffs. Telling your child you're dying when it's a lie is unforgivable.
Right?! Any person with the power of google would debunk that bs in 15 seconds.
Sepsis is a inflamation reaction in a wound internal or external. It can be very deadly... If not treated immediately. And it is very treatable. And no you dont get cancer from it. Sepsis is deadly. Especially if you are in the wilderness. You get a wound and it contacts sepsis. Someone could die from that. But not if you are treated in a hospital.
@@ZGtx Have to admit, I have 0 medical knowledge and even for me it was like "that can't be right, can it? gotta google that"
That just means she got diagnosed with cancer after sepsis. Cancer patients also get tons of opiates. The one thing that screams bs is the renal failure (she'd be delirious af on Percocet with renal failure) and being on dialysis (wheres the fistula?).
I was wondering if all these lies and frauds were enough to take away her custody over her son. There is no info about her after her imprisonment
My brother was the victim of a scam from a family member. Two of our cousins(twins) convinced him to co-sign on student loans. He was in the Navy at the time and was deployed out on a ship for several months shortly after. During this time, they attempted a single semester and then took the money and went on a few trips to Europe, and various other destinations. Beyond that first semester, the money was never spent on anything school related.
My brother came home thinking everything was alright. He married his fiancé and they started building their life as he served his last year on base. It wasn't long after getting married that they found out what happened and found out they were also responsible for paying back the loans and that nothing had been paid. The cousins hadn't paid anything and decided to just live with their mother, not caring about the credit hit.
My brother was now stuck paying the loan and interest lest his credit be destroyed. Unfortunately, much of the damage had already been done. When he finished his 4 years, he and his wife tried to buy a home only to be rejected because of the massive unpaid loan on his record. They tried for 2 years to get a home and failed each time. They struggled to even get a car loan.
This went on for about 3 years until his mother-in-law stepped in and settled the matter in court. My brother and his wife still had to pay the mother-in-law back, but on their terms and without interest. It took them 4 more years to be able to get a home and sadly, the market became much more expensive in that time.
The twins got what they deserved. Their credit was obliterated and they were left responsible for the balance. It has since created a rift in our family between those who support the twins and those who support my brother. Those who support the twins are not my family anymore.
Always remember that you don't owe your family. Just because someone shares your blood doesn't mean they deserve your trust. Stay safe out there everyone.
Never co-sign for family.
For the ones who are on the twins side.. Ask THEM to be the co signer.. They would back away so fast
wow who could support those twinbastards? and who could be responsible for a loan for someone else?
your twin cousins seem to dislike walking; and their kneecaps
"Those who support the twins are not my family anymore."
Wise, because that means they're actually okay with what the twins did. You don't want people like that around.
The fact that she put her kid through this emotional stress is just crazy and cruel
Not to mention her Vet father.
@@LathropLdST he´s a grown man, stupid enough to let him get fooled so long by his own daughter
When I think back, being disabled, living on the street, in a foot of snow, watching my wife and dogs suffer, unable to raise a single penny, it's really hard not to be mad at people like this woman. No one wants to help others, because of people like that woman.
Jeez, I hope you’re doing better these days
Yes it makes me very angry seeing this. It makes me loose trust in other human being.
Dogs? They eat like dumpsters.
That's exactly right. If I can't truly tell someone's in need and it's hard to tell nowdays. I refuse just cause I know to to many people lie about it just to mske money off people. I'll never give cash. I'll buy gas or food if I can but I'll never hand cash. It's awful people ruin it for everyone every time. It sucks
If the government was responsible, there wouldn't be any poverty.
"Sepsis turning to cancer" - audibly screamed out "whaaaaat" when I heard that.
Lets not forget she had to get one kidney removed while the other is filled with cancer.
This was once commonly believed... Many folk still believe bob marley died this way.
Not to mention her 12 tumors and like 1 kidney that has cancer in it
Like nah that's beyond out there
I have an aunt like this, she is destructive to everyone around her. Even her own son has a restraining order on her, and no one believes her lies anymore. I only hope she finds help someday and overcomes her addiction.
Liars dont recover. Lol
And you know that she won't.
@@ifirespondiamstupid7750 they can but only if they want to
@@lobstergod8993 true...
@@lobstergod8993 only they give up narcist behavior which is hard to do
Situations like this is exactly why I can't trust any gofundme fundraiser in general.
@George Johnson one should read the story on the gofundme and see if everything adds up. established charities can often be terrible at seeing the people in need get them. research any charity because far too often a large part of the money goes to telemarketing or celeb endorsements e
yeah i mean even if legit, gofundme enables people who won't work hard to build up to investing in their ideas themselves, just trying shortcut the process
@George Johnson You need to be carefull with established charities as well. You don't wanna know how much money of large charities is being used to support a massive, unwieldy bureacracy that can rival that of certain governmental agencies, fund idiotic ideas (for example giving machinery to people without giving them the means and/or expertise to maintain and use them), big fat paychecks to the upper management,... In general the larger the charity, the less of the donated money actually gets to the people that it's meant for. To some degree this is logical, a big operation means more costs, but a lot of the money also simply gets wasted.
This stuff is all over the place on twitter too. My rule of thumb is to try finding others who can vet for the person first because there's sadly too many people pretending to be others in suffering. Now if they're someone I know personally then it's much easier to make decisions based on what I know and feel of them
My husband and I had one on 2018 when we had cancer at the same time. My best friend posted it, and kept it updated with pictures, etc. Unlike Jenny’s case, family and friends went with us to appointments, kept us company in chemo, visited us in the hospital, etc. Everyone in our universe knew someone who was in a position to corroborate everything. When people offered to help pay bills, we handed them the actual bill.
There are many ways to verify things when they’re true.
Had almost the exact same story happen at my college. A sorority girl came out and said she had some type of cancer. All the sororities and fraternities hosted fundraisers for her care and a bunch of money was raised for her. It finally came out that the whole thing was a complete lie. I don’t know what happened after that but I can imagine she doesn’t have her friends or family around her anymore
This one hits home really hard because my father actually did something incredibly similar. He lied to all of us that he had cancer, which seemed feasible because he was a long time smoker. The only reason we stopped to question anything was because we had already know he was an addict over years and had stolen things from the family. It's unfortunate too because my mother has a brain tumor and he even stole her medication after she had surgery. Neither of us have any contact with him now, but there are still people that believe him over my mother and I and that's a pretty big pain to deal with, it rips a family apart because you try to show your love and care.
It's amazing to think about how one quick check with the law officials and/or doctors would have made this entire story unravel instantly. It's horrifying to think about not only how she duped everyone around her, but that her son grew up thinking he could lose her at any moment. I can't imagine how this will affect him throughout his life.
Very good video!
Doctors can't tell family anything that's a breach of confidentiality. Even law need a judge to sign off.
@@HollyOak wrong. they can tell the family if the person made their appointments
Um no? Does your employer know that you think this?
I would straight up cut all connections to her if this was my daughter/wife, I wouldn't even show up for her actual funeral. Losing all that money for a lie is unacceptable, you don't do that to family.
and meals.. i bet she's the only morbidly obese cancer patient.
It's not even about the money though. It's about the betrayal. Yes, the money hurt, but the betrayal probably hurt way worse.
Well she did told the truth about one thing. She really was cancer... at least to her family.
wow so you do not care about your children, well that makes sense, people like you exist, sad world...
@@thecoolcarhd4402 if your kids had so little care for you that they’d do this to you you honestly believe they’d deserve you to care for them?
I'm a father and I couldn't even comprehend how her dad felt having his daughter do that to him. I hope my daughter or son would never even remotely pull this sort of horrible act. I can't fathom the heartbreak he felt when he found out that it was all a lie and sick con.
I don't think you understand addiction.if I remember correctly. She was addicted to oxycodin which is nasty. My point being empathy goes both ways. Addicts are good at manulating everyone when they are using so parents are not stupid either.
@@SkoopyghostI didn't say the parents were stupid. I sympathised with how much it must have hurt them having the daughter do that to them.
@@SkoopyghostLol, so that justifies her actions? Dumb point of view.
I find it so frustrating that even ex addicts are justifying/blaming her actions on her addiction - that’s Bullshit. I was an addict for almost a decade and I never would’ve even dreamt of destroying people like this! It’s not the addiction that makes you do it - it’s who you are as a person deep down.
Whilst whilst I was a shitty partner, housemate & worker due to always being off my face & spending my rent money on drugs I never stole/robbed people or businesses & I’m so sick of people blaming their addiction for their actions!
Spot on.
I also... just couldn't imagine not stating honestly what your problem is to a loving family that is ready to give me that much money.
Yeah sure. You were an addict for years, skipped out on rent, lied and cheated but never fucked anyone around. Sure a sainthood is coming your way.
@Pain Yes, especially if you're a woman were society constantly tells you, "It's not your fault."
There's nothing wrong with helping people, hell I think more people should be willing to help a random stranger; the problem arises when people think they're entitled to help and start expecting others to help. People will forget that the world doesn't owe you anything and expecting as much is only going to cause problems.
So DISGUSTING that people do this while the people that are really sick don’t get the help they need!
I knew a guy like this in college, he had everyone including school admins and family believing he suffered from some obscure terminal disease. A pathological liar, he was fun to be with (very bright and funny) but you literally could not trust a word out of his mouth.
In this tragic case I'm amazed the family spent hundreds of thousands but never saw a single invoice, bill, letter or pathology report? No practice or clinic ever called to confirm or change an appointment? I have had family members die (of cancer yes) and we were swamped with paperwork, still finding some years later. No family ever spoke to _any_ of the doctors or specialists she was supposedly seeing to talk about hospice or palliative care arrangements? They never questioned why she never went to a dialysis facility? Did her husband attend a single 'treatment'? Maybe she walked into reception waited a few minutes then left after family did...
I understand the con was extensive and played on their trust but the abscence of any evidence at all should have been a big red flag. So saddening that she has ruined not only her life but of so many around her
Hard to see the red flags when your eyes are full of tears...
Living with someone who's falling down the addiction hole, you get used to brushing off suspicious activities. It's easier then confronting that someone you love is deliberately manipulating you
@@noahkarpinski1824 I understand. I was with someone who was addicted to alcohol. 6+L wine/day, rehab, ER kidney failure level of addicted.
I gave her years of my life and an uncomfortable amount of money/financial support. I really thought I could make a difference if I just tried hard enough. If I gave enough, nurtured and supported her enough not to need it to get past old traumas.
We split up after years of arguing about it and she died soon after. (Hooked up with an enabler)
Sometimes you have to have these confrontations, keep your eyes open for the truth and your wits about you. I just can't believe that with the sheer amount of evidence lacking, no-one saw it coming. Of course, no-one wants to believe those they love are taking them for a ride, but I suspect in this case (as in mine) it's easier to deceive everyone else if you first deceive yourself.
My family was also severely damaged by gambling, so yeah, I'm familiar with addiction and how pernicious it's effects can be. Understandable, but tragic.
@@noahkarpinski1824 That's called denial.
@@ared18t yeah and it's extremely common
The key is to just show empathy. Addiction is a disease and should be treated instead of villified but on the other hand being around sick people is a terrific way to harm your own wellbeing
The video said that they were driving her to the bank and giving her gobs of money to be used as needed.
She must have had her parents just wrapped around her finger.
Ugh.
Poor kid will have this crap splattered on his name for years to come.
I hope _(against all hope)_ that people will just leave him alone about this since he was a victim. In one of the worst positions too, jesus f:ing christ.
Makes me sick of people like this. I had cancer back at the end of 2017 and the start of 2018 lost part of my left femur / pelvis. I had to learn to walk again from scratch but it turned out they removed muscles that control my hip rotation so I have been left with a half paralyzed leg. Since then i'm permanently on crutches and while out i have to use a wheelchair as unable to walk far. but because i am now relying on my right leg to take 90% of my weight there has caused further complications. Sad to see someone made up they had cancer to get money. This really hit me hard this one and sent my head right back to when I was very poorly. It's a sad world we live in, it really is!
That's awful. Best of luck to you.
Get well soon!
I'm sorry for what you have to go through.
Sorry man, best of luck in the future!
As a patient who's terminal and who's having to see my family grieve for me, it infuriates me she did this to her loved ones, especially her child. Sure, people who haven't been through cancer or don't have a terminal diagnosis are angry, but we are a special kind of angry. Id love to raise just 3k so I could go visit family I haven't seen in years and otherwise won't be able to before I die. She scammed so much out of people to hide her addiction. It was more than stealing money, it was stealing love and stealing trust. Addiction is terrible, but it's no excuse or even explanation. My dad's a recovering addict. He was a terrible person while addicted but nothing like this. He's also accepted that people aren't gonna forgive him for the comparatively minor shit he did. I still don't, but I have a "new" relationship with him, for the sake of both of us with my limited time. I wish you well, disability is hard but we are fighters
People like this woman are the reason I question everyone, including my own mother... especially my own mother
How did the husband not know? A kidney being removed leaves a pretty big scar, 3 brain tumors have alot of medicines, no symptoms at home, but he didn't suspect anything? Ive been married 15 years and if my husband got sick and told me he has cancer I would be at every appointment, i cant understand how he wouldnt know.
There's much worse than this. People with pet dogs who were fund raising for treating injuries on their dog which they were causing themselves. It's like all those sci-fi films showing horrid futures except we're already there.
Ugh i know right. I guess it's because "craziest" is subjective.
I remember that happened all over Europe with kids, they would deform the kids, break their arms etc to get sympathy for begging. Makes me sick thinking about those repressed memories.
You are wrong. You are shocked because people are acting like scum.
There have always been scum... Now we have enough tech to see them.
This makes me so angry, animals never deserve this kind of treatment and the people that treats animals like this definitely don’t deserve pets
@@callumforbutt2090 "people" that treat pets like that. Deserve to stand infront of a firesquad if u ask me.
Trust but verify.
That is the best nuance to take. Otherwise pure skepticism is how genuine cases lead to preventable deaths, because someone decides to poison the well with "what if she's lying"?
This case is the example of the opposite problem of just taking someone at their word instead of verifying.
Amazing video Kira, love how much your work has evolved over time!
Fear of due process and not believing until proper evidence is found is a problem not just in cases such as these.
Доверяй, но проверяй. Funny how people are using a Russian proverb widely these days
@@Nabuchodonozord LOL. What a troll. So you belief any and everything? Well I have a house to sell you on Mars, ready for you when you go on musk's doomed rocket trip
what a joke. if you have to verify something then you don't trust them. that's the whole point of verifying.
But, how do you verify that a friend on Facebook REALLY has cancer.
Kira said it himself, no one wants to call bullshit on “the big C”.
I think the message is more,
“Give, but only what you can afford to lose”
I still think it's strange no one noticed. You say it's because her family loves her, but I think it's because of love I would notice. If my wife had cancer I would be there for her at every appointment and treament. The same goes for any of my children.
idk even if i noticed some stuff i think i would push those suspicions away bc the thought of someone i trust faking something like that would be so hard to believe and i don't think i would want to be the person accusing someone of faking cancer
at least you would have seen documents and papers to know more about it, you would had made a lot of questions, at least at some point.
I would've followed every appointment, read everything, every report, want to know everything so i could find any sliver of hope. How could it not have been noticed??
at the very least, i would read the judgment as well and look at the options as well
Rule is dont fuck cousins
IKR? My parents always had at least one of us kids with them for any cancer-related doctor appointments, let alone chemo, radiation, or surgeries to make sure they got good treatment! You don't let someone you love have to face such things alone and just throw money at them.
I'm in a situation that has some similarities to this.
My kids mom is an out of control, pathological lying neglectful drug addict. Several months ago she got in another fight with her family and was about to be kicked out. That's when she told them she had cancer (also messaged me the same day). They go from kicking her out to giving her her own little house. Strawberry
I've found myself doubting her, and her own father has too. He filed for disability for her and needed her medical records but she failed to provide them. He files anyway and she is rejected. She still won't go get the records for him as if it's too much for her to handle.
She has said she won't do chemo or radiation so she's basically forgoing treatment. But she claims to be stage 3 so forgoing ANY form of treatment for cancer is highly suspicious.
It's so awful because it really feels like a last ditch effort to manipulate everyone in her life.
Sorry to hear that
Didn't one person notice that despite having so much cancer, she never lost any weight or even her hair? "It's too bad you have cancer, Jenny. What are you? A size 40 now."
Man, I remember this. I've been living in Alabama for the last 18 years, and this was all over the news. Funny, because this wasn't what got the governor, Robert Bentley, ousted. Turns out, he was having an affair with his comms director, Rebekah Caldwell Mason, who was greatly compensated for her silence.
Christ, when's the last time we've had a governor that was even worth a damn.
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Look he had ed and she fixed it it wasn't his fault man!
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@How to dispose a 'ز' it’s racist there?
@How to dispose a 'ز' Birmingham is not at all racist. Greater Jefferson County, however...
What's the opposite of "heartwarming"? That poor father.
I never abused percs, but 30-40 a day sounds like a near fatal amount. How's was she not completely smacked out of her mind all the time?
Coz tolerance builds up real quick... Plus everyone is different... I require large amounts of anesthetic for ops and have wakened during surgery despite telling Dr beforehand and once hadn't gone out cold by couldn't move before eye surgery... Managed to spit out "I'm awake" as the scalpel neared my eye.
If she's getting percocet with 5/325, @ 30 that's only 150mg of oxycodone. I'm on a daily cocktail of 60mg oxycodone and 120mg of morphine and that hardly takes any pain away. Plus you build up a tolerance to it over time. What the killer is to her is the 9750mg of Tylenol to her liver each and every day. If she has been taking that amount for that duration of time, her liver has probably rotted away, and she'd be dead.
@@leftylou6070okay nice I was gonna say bro 40 5/325’s would be destroying her liver with Tylenol. But you already know haha 😂
As someone who is only alive today thanks to the tremendous kindness of strangers (have had stage 4 nerve cancer for almost 2 decades since I was I was 5) this story really hits deep….
@@bronzyriot892 Says “Ha ha ha youre joking because stage 4 cancer last 1 year at most!” “Very good scam”
Hahaha, you’re an idiot who has no idea what he is talking about, go do some research before you spout some nonsense. I mean Jesus, the first thing that comes up when you look up “How long can stage 4 cancer last?” You get this quote “Many patients with stage 4 cancer can live for YEARS” key part there being the plural. I have a form of childhood nerve cancer called neuroblastoma, I was diagnosed with stage 4 meaning the cancer has metastasised into my bones. I have never been in remission, I still have the cancer in my bones (Ie. Spine, hips, pelvis, and both femurs.) at the age of 24. I was diagnosed at the age of 5. Feel free to look up Neuroblastoma and Memorial Sloan Kettering in New York where I went from Australia for treatment. Sloan Kettering is a specialist in this field, and are the only reason I am alive today.
Nice try though, next try google searching before making an idiot of yourself. Nice job liking your own comment btw XD How up your own ass can you be?
@@bronzyriot892 “Ha ha ha youre joking because stage 4 cancer last 1 year at most!” “Very good scam” your comments right? Did you look up what stage 4 means?
“Stage IV. This stage means that the cancer has spread to other organs or parts of the body. It may be also called advanced or metastatic cancer.”
Meaning the cancer has Metastasised into my bones. I can check my bone scans and still see the cancer still there, so how would I not be in stage 4 when it started a tumorous cell in my stomach area? If you seriously think I’m faking then I can link you a news story on me, but that really shouldn’t be needed considering how much I’ve already proven you have no clue what you are talking about.
Lying to your husband, parents, and community about dying is cruel and miserable behavior; lying to your *child* about dying is unforgivable evil. She doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as her child after putting him through one of the cruelest things we have to go through in losing our parents.
This is a great narration style Kira, even if I could expect where the story might turn, you revealed nothing until the critical moments.
Love makes people ignore the obvious warning signs. Why wasn't her mom let in the buildings? (Also, how did the staff there not notice this woman coming in, presumably sit in the lobby for an hour doing nothing, and leave with no patient). How did the husband not see any of the actual medical bills? Why did nobody see the lack of effects of chemo? How did her husband not notice her lack of prescription medicines?
Seriously though more than $500,000 on drugs. One hell of an addiction...
They never said the mom wasn't allowed in the buildings. She said "I never saw her go back with the Doctor. I mostly dropped her off and let her go." Given the nature of dialysis treatments, which take up to three or four hours and needs to be performed three or so times a week, the daughter almost certainly just told her mom to go home because of how much time it would eat up to sit in on her treatments. Just dropping her off and driving off is perfectly reasonable on the mom's part.
Sepsis doesnt cause cancer! lol. You think her husband would notice she didnt go to hospital for days on end for treatment and no kidney removal scar!
He must have been in on it or really stupid?
yeah, that's why I believe he wasn't alone on this!
The price is artificially inflated because of middle men(doctors, big pharma, dealers etc)/the drug war. In a fully legal market, these drugs would be much cheaper.
It also paid for world travel and living expenses
I’m a recovering alcoholic, I understand how far addiction can take you and how surrealism can become your reality. However, don’t most of us have a line we wouldn’t cross? I think there were several here for me personally.
I’m also a little confused why her father was keeping her husband as well? Especially if her mother was the one taking her to all her appointments?
Doing a whole lot of assuming here, but likely all the money the husband was making was going into her addiction and he was likely working so much that he didn't really get to verify the story. It's a pretty fucked up lie to tell your husband and your kid, but here we are.
@@BType13X2 That makes sense of what could be happening.
Yeah, heroin addict in recovery here, I would never
Another addict friend of mine has actual cancer, is in a back brace and a wheelchair and has spinal issues needing surgery
I have to care for him daily and I and he has NEVER used this not lies like that as an excuse
Draw the line at hurting others
Petit theft is one thing but this
Is horrific
As a recovering addict, I can say I'm very saddened, but not shocked that she would go to such lengths. Once the lie started, she probably felt there was no going back, and as the drug abuse spirals, rational thoughts and morals are high jacked by the addiction. You quite literally become a different person. Your actions are guided only by getting your next fix, because you've rewired your brain to believe the drugs are the only means of survival. Absolutely not an excuse for her actions however. I've served my time, made my amends, and had to be held accountable for my actions during my addiction. I hope those 25 months in prison were good for her.
Was saying “high jacked” a joke referencing drug use or just a typo?
I'm proud of you for your accountability, that can be the hardest part.
@@ts2768 lol just a typo but that's funny I'll take credit for it now 😄
I agree. Calling what she had "painkillers" is the most american thing ever... Even with big injuries and multiple broken bones you don't get that stuff in most of Europe. I think she is only part fault for the whole fiasco. But i don't know her so i cant judge.
@@NarcoSarco in europe we call it heroin, it's not as easy to use. Kind of a barrier to entry.
Her weight didn't raise any red flags?? Cancer eats you alive along with the treatments.
My husband and I both had cancer at the same time in 2018. My first thought reading this was… how did people not notice that none of the hallmark physical changes took place? We both lost weight, lost all of our hair, spent time in hospitals (where people visited), had company at chemo appointments, had obvious surgeries and recovery periods, had visible chemo ports… and I could go on and on.
I can’t think of any form of cancer where you look and act normal and healthy throughout.
I hope you’re both doing better nowadays
@@waxmeltfan We’re both doing great, thank you.
Chris I gained weight when I had cancer. Don’t know why it’s not like I ate a lot? So glad you are both doing well!!
@@monicajane7888 hope you are too?,
God Bless you both
My mom passed from cancer last week and its killing me, coming down to the end she looked incredibly frail and sick. Theres no way shes been battling cancer for the past 3 years and looked that rotund and healthy. Her family is gullible af, no one went to any of her appointments? My mom never went to an appointment alone. Jenny is sickening af.
I'm sorry for your loss. Nothing really helps, only time. Lots of time.
I'll challenge the idea that you can't battle cancer and be rotund. That just isn't true. Also, I attended most of my appointments alone. Sometimes, the individual just wants to deal with it alone. But as a general rule, they should have known based on her responses. Definitely sickening for anyone that has been touched by the disease, of which is most people, either themselves or close loved ones.
I attended all my appointments alone when I had cancer as an adult. the hospital really freaks me out and I get very paranoid about scaring my loved ones so I never allowed anyone to come with me. definitely not the norm from what I've seen but doesn't mean someone's lying
I'm sorry To hear that,❤😢
Holy shit, what a wild story. Thanks for the very interesting video, Kira. It was perfect to watch while drinking my morning coffee. Your style of narration hits just right.
I cant imagine scamming not only strangers, but your own family out of thousands of dollars, using their kindness like that.
They say love is unconditional, but it really isn't. The damage to her family will not ever fully heal.
This is so common nowadays that it makes it really hard to find a genuine case to support.
I've lived with addicts. They've borrowed money, and never repaid it. They've sold their game consoles to multiple different friends/family members, then turned around and sold it again online. I've had valuable video games disappear overnight along with any cash in my wallet. I ended up having to get a metal safe just for my prescription medication. And much more. But damn, this makes what I've been through seem like a joke in comparison. I'm not blaming it all on addiction. The addicts that stole from me and my family were assholes before they got hooked, and when I suffered from addiction myself I never stole anything. I also once knew a serial thief who didn't have any substance addiction. I hope she got help for her addiction, but in all honesty even if she stays clean she will likely try to continue this behavior on a smaller scale.
Yes. Its not the addiction! I have addiction issues myself but i rather suffer trough pain than to steal from people
Really interesting video m8. Really professionally produced aswell. I find it fascinating that these people only get a few years in prison after literally destroying others lives forever.
Fraud is not prosecuted in the correct way it is viewed as a white collar crime and none violent in nature. There needs to be a greater emphasis put on the scope of the damage done by the fraud. They also need to look at what you took from your victims ie. their time, their money, and what they could have done with those 2 assets instead of the fraud. IMO if your fraud means a person needs to work for 3-4 years to pay off the debt they acrued from your fraud that is where the prison sentence should start as a minimum if they have no ability to provide you with restitution.
We aren't even factoring in the emotional or psychological violence brought against her victims. How many times did her father, mother, son, husband and close friends lose sleep over her situation? How many relationships did they damage? Further an alarmingly high number of people do not go after those who defrauded them because the internet hate machine will just call them an idiot who deserved it. Afterall its your fault for having empathy and believing someone and not the person who defrauded you's fault for doing so.
We need to get rid of that stigma and increase the punishment for fraud if they can't make restitution. I would fully support Jenny having to work and getting her wages garnished for the rest of her life or until she has made those that she hurts full again whichever happens first.
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THIS IS THE BEST DIRECTION FOR YOUR CHANNEL I COULD EVER IMAGINE KIRA, please, keep doing these videos!
you should use more capital letters
@@warrenbailey5469 Yeah i agree not enough capital letters. Can't take this person seriously
I had an uncle like that. Lied and stole 100s of thousands of my grandmother, who was, at one point in her life, really well of. The idiot in question was a high ranked police officer. When it came out, everybody, including his two sons, dropped him. He died a good decade or so ago. From lung and brain cancer. Alone. Suffering for years in agony. And no one cared or went to his funeral
Karma came back on him. I had a family member Screw me over for money and credit and I am totally done with them.
Your grandma shouldn’t be dumb enough to let people take advantage of her
As someone who has had so many people in my family die of cancer, I almost lost my brother in too close of a call (solo dad of 3) and the hell we went through it makes me beyond angry.
And for the love of god someone give that poor boy a haircut.
As a man who lost both my parents in my teenage years from cancer, I question my humanity on what kind of "human" could possibly do something like this.
What a sickening monster of a person. I'll bet she had a circle of people, none of which knew her from childhood. Because this is definitely a craft she perfected over years of practice on other innocent people who offered her gratitude and compassion.
That's what addiction does..
@@WeltLocos well addiction can definitely give someone the drive to do something sick like this. But I don’t think it magically gives you whatever skill and charisma are needed to keep a lie like this going for so long. Shes probably a pathological liar or something.
@@WeltLocos not an excuse, not at this level at least
@@WeltLocosno, addiction motivates you to do this. If you have character, you don't do it anyway. Go to rehab.
So many red flags. How did 2 federal judges fail to have a clerk look up the supposed lawsuit on pacer? How could politicians get ahold of the settlement money when they're nowhere in loop concerning a settlement? Where was her health insurance (91% of Americans have health coverage...did she not?).
I knew a woman like this. After getting large amounts of money and a trip to the USA to "meet a specialist" her cancer miraculously went away due to clean living and good vibes.
Her poor son, unwittingly used as a pawn to fuel a drug addiction in perhaps one of the most emotionally damaging ways possible.
I can't believe that nobody asked where her fistula for the dialysis was. It's a big goddam port for a blood cleaning machine, they put it on yer arm, and it sure as hell isn't something you'd miss, even as a casual observer. (There is a type of dialysis that is abdominal, but I don't know that this one would have been smart enough to look that far into it.)
Not everyone had a degree in medical school and have time to learn all of this out of work, kids and one person that was "sick"
Her story claimed that she got cancer after dirty instruments for a biopsy...
Did nobody think to ask... why was she supposed to be getting a biopsy, in the first place?
RBG coming to the state to investigate??? That sounds absolutely absurd. Who would believe that?
Because despite what is often suggested through the filter of the internet, outside this relatively small shoutbox, large swathes of human civilisation are well meaning but unfortunately naive.
Yankees genuinely believe that the south is exactly like the cartoons
Someone like her, addicted and broken...I always find it so sad how they don't feel any guilt. Guilt is a sign you still care about how others feel about you (this includes your own sense of what you think of yourself). She's completely lost her interest in how others view her besides tricking them, and has basically no love or interest in them.
Addictions can really just sever someone's connections to others making your whole life about the euphoria chase and anything that gets in the way just can't compare to that thing, so it merely becomes a nuisance, even if it's your own family. The things you can do as if they're nothing once you've totally surrendered yourself to it and lost any interest in others... it's just pathetic and sad.
Even if she somehow managed to fix her addiction I doubt she'd try to start connecting with others again because all that waits for her their is guilt and shame beyond what most people could ever stand. The only kinds of people you can connect with at that point are those who have been or are like you and understand what you did.
Her life is so utterly destroyed because she let herself get so consumed by that addiction she disconnected with any sense of morality or caring about how others might feel about her and consequently enabled herself to do horrendous things as if it was nothing.
sociopaths
@Jamie Last You look at the grand canyon and if you told someone a stream of water did it it would sound ridiculous if they didn't already understand why.
Maybe addiction turning someone into a monster seems ridiculous to you, but as someone who has seen and experienced some of that first hand, it's really not surprising. It's not gonna magically turn an angel into a demon, but it's a slow gradual process that destroys your humanity piece by piece as you let go of just a little bit more each time.
It's not like that sort of thing even excuses what they did in any way, but it's very real how your mind can be corroded and you can lose yourself. It's important to acknowledge some of what causes this shit to happen, because if we don't identify the problem, we take no steps in our life to combat it. We just go "Oh I guess I'm just a shit person" and give up.
At this point, she did this upon herself, even if addiction isn't totally a choice how you control it is
@PJ Wille
I think it’s neither valid to excuse her actions on her addictions nor entirely blame her actions on her addiction. Certainly addiction can cause people to not act like themselves & to show their worst characteristics, but someone like this had something sociopathic in them already. They lacked empathy already. It is a nature PLUS nurture situation. The addiction worsened something already effed in her psychology.
They feel it, then shame... Then more drugs to suppress the shame, and the memory... Repeat (imo)
My father has grade 4 brain cancer and I find this extremely disgusting to lie about this. I take care of him everyday, drove him to radiation 45 min each way everyday and continue to take him to doctor and medical appointments. I watched other patients with brain cancer go to radiation and it’s something that I wish on no one. It’s a horrible diagnosis that changes everything for a loved ones family.
Never heard of this one. Glad you covered it.
A similar thing happened to my mother in her first marriage who was an employee of hmrc. He was incredibly controlling and paranoid that my mother would cheat on him or leave him the he forged his entire life story to make himself seem interesting and more favourable giving her as she says the backstory of the main character in the movie highlander (she and I haven't actually seen the movie so I don't know if it's a good analogy) as his life story claiming he was of high social status and had been the last in his blood line. He even lied to her saying his brothers had died of cancer even though he never actually had any. This didn't end here when she started to get suspicious of his stories he claimed to have gotten cancer and implored her to quit her job to focus on looking after her. This went on for around 2 years before his mother reached out to her and told her the truth after she had found out herself about her son's lie when my mum confronted him about it he revealed all of the other lies he told her and told her if she left him he would kill himself leading to their divorce.
The point of this story is that as Kira said it's more common than you think and people do it for a variety of reasons. Where this story was more focused on the monetary gain of illness. My mother's story is a story of a mentally ill man who can't stand not being in control. It's fucked up and personally even if they don't gain any money or fame from it they should go to prison. They are not well and are harming everyone around them
Unless he's also from the Scottish highlands and ousted from his clan for suspicions of witchcraft, I'm not seeing the semblance to Highlander.
@@stevenschnepp576 as I said I haven't seen the movie it's how my mother describes his life story in simple terms. I've never really poked her on the subject further as I'm not really interested. It happened all before I was even born about 10 years ago and she doesn't like talking about it. The whole story has only been drip fed to me my entire life. I don't know where he is from or if he is Scottish or not. I've only been shown a photo of him and given the story I wrote here that's really it. I've never met the guy. If it wasn't for my own father and my brother's father retelling the story to me separately almost identical fashion I wouldn't even believe the story myself.
bruh he even gaslighted 💀
I love how Kira's channel has evolved from covering fraud in the video game industry to fraud in other walks of life :)
what a lucky drug dealer she had. she made his life good.
From my understanding she most likely have different sources. With that much of pill buying I can't imagine one source keeping stock up without alerting authorities for the last 3 or more years.
@@giftedfox4748 authorities miss most crime. almost all of it.
Haha! Yep
How could she put her son through that
The fact she didn't want anyone to go into her 'medical appointments' with her is the biggest red flag regarding her family.
I don't think anyone I know wouldn't want their nearest and dearest by their side - it's just natural.
To be honest when I had cancer I also went to a good portion of my appointments alone too. I go to almost all of them alone now.
I loved my dad enough to go to his appointments with him at least sometimes. That her family never did but instead bankrupted themselves blows my mind
They probably took her to the hospital and she probably lied to them saying they weren't allowed to accompany her in because of the health risk to other patients in the ward or some shit. keep in mind she would go to appointments and sit in the hospitals lobby for an hour and then come out. Her family was probably sitting outside waiting in a car while she was doing that whole show.
@@BType13X2 Yeah it was probably something like that. Don't underestimate an addict's ability to lie. It's a required skill to master if you want to keep the addiction going.
@kogepanm And you would be confronted with doctor patient confidentiality where they absolutely refuse to tell you anything about her or her "treatment" that is a thing .
@kogepanm exactly as the person above me said, you’d get absolutely nowhere. I’m not even sure they’d be allowed to confirm that the person was their patient. You can’t just get on the phone and get people’s personal records.
Are you dumb ? People can either lies, or they just had trust in her because she was their own family
If your wife or mom would say i wanna do that alone you should trust her and say ok, not trying to see if everything she said now was true because she don't want you to see to suffer for example
People really think they would see everything and would understand before anyone
So where was the husband in all this? If my wife said she was on dialysis or had any illness, I'd be trying to learn more about how to care for her. First thing you'd find is a lack of IV needle (or whatever they use) holes on her arms. Your spouse can be in the room with you during doctor visits and treatments. Did she ask him to wait outside for something that isn't very embarrassing? Dialysis tends to be pretty painful, but the wife didn't want her husband with her for support? The husband knew dialysis was painful, but didn't insist he be with her to support her?
Either this is a very uncaring and detached husband or he was complicit.
Yep I agree. How do you not know she didn't have Cancer.
@@smithgdwg Either she is a very good liar. Or he is also involved.
Maybe she told him it's okay, I don't need/want you in there/see me like that etc etc. Maybe he was taking care of the kid, the household, trying to earn as much additional money as he could with one or several jobs. And you don't automatically know something about dialysis. I don't sh*t about it and what to look for, and why would I if as Kira mentioned it's a person I have known and trusted for a long time? Yes, he could have googled it, asked a doctor, read a book and so on unless he was busy with several jobs or whatnot. But to what end? It's not gonna magically cure all those cancers and tumors. He probably trusted her and the doctors. Not everyone in this world goes out of their way to question everything and pretend to be a know-it-all. I understand the need/wish to understand the whole picture, especially if there is any indication of someone being "in" on this. But if I just go by this video we simply know too little about these circumstantial questions. So you accusing him of being either uncaring or complicit is jumping to conclusions and as black and white as it gets.
@@smithgdwg How do you know? You have a sticker on your head saying "cancer positive" when you have it? You guys know so much about it? Like, how? You watching medical shows all day? Or you google for cancer signs each day when you wake up, while sipping your coffee? All your relatives having cancer for you to be such big experts? Come on now, don't be silly. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that an ordinary person who isn't working in the medical field knows nothing about it until they get confronted with it personally, and even then there are probably different layers and expressions of it. You guys are really jumping to conclusions there.
@@Lenariet true
You have gone from gaming vids, to important vids .. Now, when i see you have posted something, I know I should watch it, not for fun, but for knowledge ... TY for your work. Keep on. God Bless.
Who pays a family member over $500k for "cancer treatment & medical bills".. in straight cash? If he was helping with that much money.. wouldnt you want to just pay the bills yourself?
Even tho I thought from the beginning she was lying, the way you laid everything out had me doubting myself. 🤔 Very well written.
What I want to know is what exactly was the plan, if she was telling everyone that she's about to die and it's untreatable, what did she think would happen when she was still kicking around months, years later? Doesn't look like she gave herself an out.
Addiction is all that mattered. An addict will say anything or lie to anyone to get their next fix.
I'm guessing she was going to say she was cured by a miracle or something because she said "God is strong and can heal me" at one point.
She was addicted to painkiller, there never was a plan
There are so many kinds of cancer (she claimed to have two, I think - tumors in her brain and in her abdomen) and cancer can go into remission. She kinda set it up to play the long game with mention of 'experimental treatments.' She'd probably claim one or both cancers went into remission (but she still needs dialysis so keep sending her money!) and then sadly report that either one of the cancers came back or she developed a new one or some other condition.
Psychopaths don't plan all that far ahead
I contracted fungal sepsis a few years ago. I was in a diabetic coma and had to be incubated in my bed. This collapsed my left lung, and my medical team narrowed down the source to this. Its in my medical record. After I woke up and recovered, I went back to the fire station so I could find out who the paramedic was that incubated me. His decision saved my life, and I don't blame him for what ended up happening. Im alive. I took a picture of me in the coma and me a few months after. I wanted them to know what they did for me.
You took a picture of yourself while in a coma? Cool story bro
@@brookelynnwu8016 Nice bait bro.
@@brookelynnwu8016 I meant I took the pictures to the fire station so that they could see how sick I was, not that I took pics of myself. Not smart, bro.
You took a picture of yourself while in a coma??
I don't know how addiction works. Addicts are self centered when sober. Dirt bags when using.
This is so, so infuriating to me as someone who’s currently living with an injury that isn’t getting any better. I want to scream at people being rightfully skeptical of me and the pain I’m in every day + the lack of progress recovery-wise but also I know that horrible people like this have made it so it’s a genuine concern for many. It just sucks all around. I feel for her family, I feel for everyone that was scammed by her, and I really feel for my fellow injured/disabled people that have to live with constant scrutiny because of these monsters.
Horrible lady. The dad should do a gofundme to get himself back on track.
When I first heard what she'd done I thought "sounds like something only an addict would do" and lo and behold she was infact an addict.
Im curious how the husband didnt know, especially that she was missing a kidney and having to do dialysis?
He must have known. I'm curious why he was barely mentioned in this video. Maybe they separated early in this trainwreck of a story, wouldn't surprise me at all.
How she can do that WHILE having a child to raise is beyond me... There's hitting bottom, and then there's just being a shitty person on top of all that.
What an absolutely heartless witch. Who does that to their own family and child ffs ? Totally unforgivable
Knowing with serious illness what a deluge of paperwork and insurance files etc. etc. I cannot believe no one caught on around her.
....man everyone that bought the SCOTUS judge coming down to the state personally clearly didn't bother to even check the Wiki page for SCOTUS.... that would of made me go 'nope'
So you only watched the start of the video and not the ending eh , lol.
"Sepsis turned into cancer" yeah no
This is what happens when as a people we stop correcting people.
Shame has its place, so does shunning when someone is poison.
As a people we have lost something.
1/8 bait. Very weak
I wonder if she is severely sociopathic or went too far down the tunnel, lie after lie after lie, digging herself an ever growing hole.
Curious case and nice structured video, Kira!
A sociopath addicted to opiates. A pretty nasty combo.
I guess there was no point where they could end the lie, since they were addicted
Sociopath
as someone who is married, how can you not know your spouse is lying about an extreme medical issue.... if she's that public about a medical issue everything is tied between you both, finances, bills, paperwork, appointments, medical supplies, seeing deterioration of the one you spend the most time with, etc. Even legal issues concerned with a terminal diagnosis or guardianship. Hell just from me going to the ER once, my wife knew 8 different ways. There's no way he didn't know too unless he's the most detached husband in the world. He never thought to go with her to one appointment for support? No don't give him an excuse, he's guilty too. Lock his a** up
There's no way he didn't know. No way to not notice a lack of surgery wounds, never going to Dr appointments, or lack of medical supplies. Sepsis is almost certainly something you'd be hospitalized for.
Opiate addiction is no joke, my mother is addicted to percocets and stole thousands of dollars from me, at one point selling my car without permission because she needed money for percs. It’s devastating being family watching this happen to someone.
I'm battling stage 3 cancer.. lost my job, my mom is disabled and we are nearing homelessness. Have a Gofundme but haven't raised a dime yet. As someone who is in the position this woman claimed to be in and truly needing the help, this makes me absolutely sick. Then to use God in her blasphemy? Wow.. real piece of work.
I hope things will get better for you and yours, my friend. ❤️
Start adding your go fund me to comments u leave the more people who see it the better your chances are
The opioid crisis in America is horrendous.
I'm not excusing what Jenny did at all, but the more you look into the pharmaceutical companies who exploited vulnerable people by lying about how addictive their painkillers were, the more disgusting it all becomes.
Exactly. She was addicted. Not saying it makes her actions any less deplorable, but it really shows you how bad the opioid epidemic is.
@@priatalat That is no excuse, i abuse opiods myself and never ripped anyone off or lied to get them. When i run out i simply don't take them until i can afford to buy more without costing my bills and making me homeless. I am tired of people like her ruining it for people like me who can manage their addictions properly and work a full time job to support it. I hate the idea of making something illegal for everyone because some people can't control themselves.
@@wteverisgud so you straddle the line between addiction and abuse. All addicts were where you are now. If you can police yourself that’s great but it’s hardly sustainable for a long period of time.
Addiction is a lurker and doesn’t mind waiting in the shadows while you think it isn’t going to manifest itself.
Another banger video, great job, sir.
It is sad what addiction will do to a human being, and how much of their life, and the lives of those around them they can destroy.
How many people believed that the politicians were actually stalling to steal the money? It's pretty sad that I have such little faith in the people who are supposed to work for us (politicians) that I thought, "sounds about right.*
When my husband was diagnosed with cancer I needed to drive him to appointments because he was on so many painkillers he was unable to drive himself. I physically took him into the hospital in a wheelchair and attended the appointments with him. I watched as his hair fell out, his legs swelled and his emotions ran amok. I can't imagine how this woman's family could possibly be so blind especially her husband. Unbelievable.
IDK, I still find it weird. The woman enters a building then comes out and says she's about to die. Did the husband or parents not want to talk to the doctors directly and hear all the details? Not out of distrust towards her, but like to learn more about the disease and what could be done to cure it or whathever, you know get involved into what's going on in a more personal way.
To me, it's rather frivolous that all they did was send her money and hope it turns out ok. Seems more out of moral obligation than love.
Yeah that's definitely weird. At a bare minimum you'd think the husband would be with her during some of the appointments just to make sure she understands everything she's being told about the treatment, medications etc. A lot of people in that kind of stressful situation just zone out and then can't remember anything later.
@@yewtewbstew547 exactly
I am 100percent sure my wife and parents would want to go to some meetings, want to get the experts' view of the diseases progression, how they could help practically and what the prognosis was. Plus my wife especially would want to be in court every day for a medical claim that could bring millions of dollars our way.
Alabamian here: About a year ago, it was revealed the husband was in on it, but the current AG declined to prosecute.
@@Heymrk Well the husband is a fucking dick then for being complicit in this whole mess and deserved to be punished for the role he played in it.
100% The husband also knew of the fraud and participated in it fully! If my wife had so much as a stubbed toe, I would know about it.
so your addicted to your wife!?!?, so she cant leave the house?!?, why are you soo uhh ya know the thing
how do you miss that your wife has spent 460.000$ in the last 3 years on drugs/painkillers?
Knowing about your own difficulties I appreciate you making this video. Hope it wasn't to hard to make both in terms of your own experiences and the blood boiling fury I'm sure you felt throughout.
One of my tutors died of cancer, and my uncle is going through therapy for a tumour. Why would someone fake a deadly illness like that? JUST WHY???
I literally felt my jaw opening wilder and wilder as I watched the video. This is one of the saddest, messed-up histories I've ever heard.
@WhaTsApChat ±①⑨⓪④④②⓪⓪⑦⑥⑥ your not Kira, your a scammer, your not fooling anyone.
You mean wider*
And people still throwing money at strangers. It is fine if you're into helping people who just told you their extremely sad life story, but it would be nice to at least check if anything they said is close to the truth. There is a very thin line between wanting to help people and willingly getting scammed.
Just trying to figure out what the endgame was for this. At some point you'd either have to fess up, or cash out and disappear, and when the people who've given up money include your own elderly parents, I don't know, that's going to be either really hard or disgustingly easy.
Reminds me a video of about a game streamer that literally told people he was dying ..... and like a year later people realized he hadn't died at all and was in fact never even sick. Forget his name of the top of my head.
tbh it's hard to ask someone "why aren't you dead yet"
@@toddtaylor6506 sketchek?
There are people who don't plan, have no "endgame" and push doing anything about their issues until the ever elusive "tomorrow" or "next week" or "after one more X/Y/Z" etc.
Addicts are a highly likely candidate. Pun unintended.
She was addicted to painkillers, and quite heavily at that from what Kira said, there was no engame to this, she just did what her brain thought was needed to fulfil her addiction. That's what addictions do to you, they rob you of your capacity to think and act clearly and logically
Jesus thats downright evil of her, i would be devestated with guilt.. after the first donation
I find it hard to believe the husband didn't know.
They were probably both using.
Seems like there was more to the story. My dad was sick even before I was born and I grew up knowing all the medical terms and words that went along with his diagnosis. We knew exactly what he had and what kind of treatment was necessary etc etc; especially because sometimes he was in hospitals for long periods of time and my mom and later myself had to do some of the paperwork, sign documents, releases etc. I find it hard to believe that her husband never asked to look at papers or mom and dad never asked her what she had exactly. And if she made up her diagnosis for them than why not just repeat that to the journalist and instead invent sepsis that turns to cancer and "tumors in my brain"?
I have ehlers-danlos and very little family and social connections. Years ago, I attempted to start a YT channel and was immediately accused of faking. I cried and never posted another video. Women like this make it so much harder for those with chronic illness to be taken seriously, especially with rare conditions. It took more than a decade for my diagnosis and I am disgusted she got so little time. Addiction is a monster, and it's impact reaches much farther than the addict.
What I want to know is how she got hooked on opioids? Where did she get the first ones that got her hooked? Doctors overprescribing unnecessary opioids and getting people addicted to them has been a big problem, especially in Alabama, the people giving them out and getting people hooked on them should be the ones going to prison...
Happened to me after an injury went to a pain clinic was on end of life opiates. Fentanyl and oxys and I never ever had taken but the occasional dental pain med. During a gall bladder surgery years b4 it was hell getting off. I had to use suboxone to transition off. My body couldn't take cold turkey once my Dr realized I was addicted they cut me off!!
Whenever an accusation comes out against someone in modern times, I always bring up that there are people who have lied about having cancer. It's not that you shouldn't believe people, it's more that there has to be evidence before you act on the accusations and same goes with people who claim to be terminally ill.
Damn.. That poor little boy.. She put that child in danger!!! What if the people that gave money, came personally trying to get it back.. I would NEVER put my son in that position. I'm sure he also it's harassed and bullied about this also. Hurts my heart a mother would do that, to her own child.
I really think the take home message here isnt as much "trust but always verify" as it is..... "the truth will always come out"
Yes people can lie, but I'd rather be the guy who acts in good faith than the guy questioning everyone that ever says anything to me, even a closed love one. Each to their own, and yea.. it is an assassination of your own character if you ever go down this road of lying to those closest to you. It'll be a long road back for her now.