Ultra Gohan:Most people use him for last stand, but even then after 1 use his gauge is gone, so unless the opponent has a bunch of blue cards in his hand, he is still getting punished by beast LF Bombku: This guy has really good defense, but most people run RRG teams with Beast anyway, so he can get countered UL Janemba: Yeah a blue can still get countered by his gauge, but by then he’ll most likely have used his ult and he only gets 1 extra from the gauge Ultra UI: Even this doofus can get countered if you wait for the opponent to attack first, if Ultra UI moves first or loses his gauge, he is getting terminated by beast As long as you have a blast based unit on your team(which at the moment ultra Gohan fits the bill), Beast Gohan will still play a vital role in the meta rn, hell I’m a beast player and I get anxious when I face another beast player because I forget what he’s capable of myself
I personally believe he is still top 5. His defence while transformed is amazing. Has the most hardest hitting blue. Great for 1v3 because of the vanish recovery. Don’t forget the vanish removal upon transformation. This unit still cooks and is still top 5
@@Ali-cp2bpultra Gohan is little better than super 17 like ultra Gohan has more counters than super 17 however it's neck to neck battle for top 1 between these both and Goku bardock top 5 but idk where to put them and ultra uui also feels like top 5 but idk abt kid gt Goku he feels kinda trash to me ....thing is beast can solo them all in late game if their guages are not there especially for uui and ultra Gohan ...beast blue card hits like tank but takes time to build up damage once it's late game and his guage is charged like 3 times or more nobody stopping him ...I even 1shotted spirit bomb Goku who had almost full hp in late game but since it takes time to build up damage for beast ... he's not top 4 or top 5 for me ...but in late game definitely no1
I think top 10 but that definitely doesn’t mean he fall off hard like tag evoken And he still a beast and his transformation full gauge is like a 1 free snipe kill
@@imjuny gohan>Uui/Barku don’t see anything they are better than him and I would personally put Ug on top 1 and beast/17 replaceable for me on top 2 but I rather take beast
I went back to playing legends near the end of the lf super 17 double z power after quitting legends bc i spend nearly 10k cc on lf muis banner and got nothing new not even the transforming vegeta or a featured lf so if a character THIS broken is "falling off" then i am utterly screwed 6 ways from sunday
I've never doubted the beast for even a second, I always knew that once a beast always a beast. Anyways attempt number 47 at asking Playbox to 1v3 with LF Beerus
I think that the benefits that Beast brings is still enough to keep him in Top 5 slightly above units like UUI and on the same level as Barku. Ability to get rid of a vanish, 1v3 possibilities with vanish replenishment abilities, good damage, synergy with good teams like S.O.M., Hybrids, Son family, basically infinite blue cards, it makes him a unit that is not as individually impressive compared to 17 and UGohan, obviously, but honestly imo gives him better team utility than 17 and maybe even UUI. Imo Top 3-4 unit, def not 1-2, but definitely not under top 5.
Please show your opponent bench as well :) (e.g. gofrieaza, gold frieza, MVP, I could not spot the bench, and do not understand how was that team that strong :), thanks!)
Hey playbox have you heard that the reveals and stuff 35 is coming tomorrow😊😊😊😅 which unit do you think it is 😅😊i want it to be tag Frieza and cooler lf
Hes prob still 3rd. I dont see amy unit other than ultra gohan and 17 having more impact on the game than him. His utilty and ability to stall with so much vanish restore and the ridiculous full hand destruction + gauge reduction on transform are extremely powerful. USB goku might be better at some situations but i do think gohan does better overall and he also has a decent amount of healing which lets him soak some damage early on cuz he'll restore it eventually
Gotta say before getting a three star s17 or one copy of gohan. He was terrifying. Since those two dropped, he can tear you apart if you don’t have any of those two. (I didn’t get baby sadly)
*1. S17* *2 SSJ2 Gohan* (EVER SO SLIGHTLY BELOW 17 because of his combo potential I guess..) *3. Beast Gohan* (red obviously) If beast was better earlier on in the game, then he would probably still be number 1, or 2 behind 17 bro
Honestly i always get triggered because when i have a character who has a blast cover change and the other player was using blasts but then when you switch to that character they have a strike
Skill issue. Predict the cards a little better, your timing will be better. Read the opponents moves. Play like you play there game 2 in your mind. They have the same options. Do you keep count of the cooldown and there vanish?
My main team is ui ultra goku,ultra gohan and red beast gohan the team is alright ig but in my opinion gohan is onlt good for the main vanish reduction and his last stand damage but overall hes a good char but he def gets carried by my gohan and ui goku frrr
Just give him some tanky equips and use him to tank hits when you are getting combo'd. He will fill his gauge fast and you can go for the early carry with him, maybe swap into UI for a snipe, and just save Ult Gohan for the late game clutch. Basically red beast is ur tank/starter unit, UI is there to snipe their carry, and green Gohan for the finish. I have a team just like this and it's ez wins. I rarely lose to s17 tbh, more scared of UI sniping UltHan or a random rush than anything else.
Beasthan is the goat, he may not be the best. But Idc he’s the ultimate clutch card, the amount of games I’ve clutched with him is countless. When he transforms, you know it’s GG
Gohan is still top 10 but I’ve seen too many people transforming early and not taking advantage of the bonus damage given after a certain amount of time 🤦🏽♂️
This unit has a nuke for a blue card, his gauge/green card don't care if you're a blue unit, drop blue on transforming obliterates anyone. This unit gave me so many clutches in 1 v 3 situations. It's top 5 easily. My setup was lf pikkon,lf super 17 and him but now it's new 16, lf 17 and zenkai red cell. I miss playing him tbh
All the people complaining about UL Gohan, theres a way to kinda eliminate him quickly. Gohan, unlike S17, Beasthan and UUI does not really reduce ultimate power. This means using UUI's switch mechanism against Gohan is a free kill. Although, for this to work, all the odds need to be in your favour. A good amount of blast cards or low gauge gohan, Main ability activated so you can Nullify his endurance and the main thing is the Cover change nullification. With all 3 of these conditions, Gohan can be dealt with. If you guys have any other ways please share your reply as I need it badly to deal with this monstrosity😭
This man can still cook. I suppose the only two threats to this man is Bombku and UL Gohan. An unskilled UL Gohan user can be dealt with using UUI or Beast pretty easily. Bombku is just really tanky and as long as you play safe against him, you dont have to worry about him depleting your health instantly like Gohan's counter or S17's counter. Easily top 3 or 2
This beasthan still performs very well, similar to his blue counterpart. Dbl just keeps releasing these broken ahh units that keeps overshadowing both evoken and red beasthan.
You could say the same to UGB but at the end of the battle you notice they are just getting started He is strong but is imposibble play him at the really high level(RN)
He is still a top unit, he provides so much not only for himself but for the team aswell, to me he is still one of the best units in the game. That said, day 62,use the following setup of mono grn team with ultra rose, evoken and revui while on the bench use zenkai god toppo, zenkai ssb vegeta and red god goku.
Hey there, would you like to sign my petition? (super baby 2 1v3 video)
If this comment gets 300 likes, ill do it
impossible to do that sh nowadays with gohan running around
ESPECIALLY gohan and androids
Heck yeah
286 liké cmon guys 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@@PlayyBox it got 300 likes
The main reason people are saying he's falling off is because he's a strike unit when everyone basically counters strike now
U can still avoid them I do just fine with him at 8 stars as a f2p player with a 5 star ui ultra and 4 star evoken
Ultra Gohan:Most people use him for last stand, but even then after 1 use his gauge is gone, so unless the opponent has a bunch of blue cards in his hand, he is still getting punished by beast
LF Bombku: This guy has really good defense, but most people run RRG teams with Beast anyway, so he can get countered
UL Janemba: Yeah a blue can still get countered by his gauge, but by then he’ll most likely have used his ult and he only gets 1 extra from the gauge
Ultra UI: Even this doofus can get countered if you wait for the opponent to attack first, if Ultra UI moves first or loses his gauge, he is getting terminated by beast
As long as you have a blast based unit on your team(which at the moment ultra Gohan fits the bill), Beast Gohan will still play a vital role in the meta rn, hell I’m a beast player and I get anxious when I face another beast player because I forget what he’s capable of myself
To top it all off he says nuh uh to aoe green cards when transformed idk how many times but at least once
W pfp
He's still top 3 just have a big on his plate but he's protected by green ssj2 gohan
When you are unsure on who to bet on. Always bet on beasthan
guy's he's top 5 but his defense is now good anymore
His defence not good
when release his before transformation was good really good@@amonggamenetwork2025
No one can tank (other than usb goku)
@PlayyBox who's USB goku again?
Universal Spirit Bomb Goku
His blue card damage after he transforms with full gauge is wild
I personally believe he is still top 5. His defence while transformed is amazing. Has the most hardest hitting blue. Great for 1v3 because of the vanish recovery. Don’t forget the vanish removal upon transformation. This unit still cooks and is still top 5
idk bro who is he better than out of UL Gohan, Super 17, USB Goku, UL UI Goku and Goku/Bardock?
@@Ali-cp2bp USB[ Depending on the scenario] UL UI and Goku bardock are all in a worse spot than beast
@@Ali-cp2bpultra Gohan is little better than super 17 like ultra Gohan has more counters than super 17 however it's neck to neck battle for top 1 between these both and Goku bardock top 5 but idk where to put them and ultra uui also feels like top 5 but idk abt kid gt Goku he feels kinda trash to me ....thing is beast can solo them all in late game if their guages are not there especially for uui and ultra Gohan ...beast blue card hits like tank but takes time to build up damage once it's late game and his guage is charged like 3 times or more nobody stopping him ...I even 1shotted spirit bomb Goku who had almost full hp in late game but since it takes time to build up damage for beast ... he's not top 4 or top 5 for me ...but in late game definitely no1
Ultra gohans blue hits harder now
@@princevegeta2958ultra gohan desmatise beast in a 1v1
Playbox is one of the rare humble youtubers that still reacts to comments even after achieving great heights and being a successful person
I think engaging with your community is important so i try to do it as much as possible :)
@@PlayyBox w playbox
Ur mamma
agreed
Playbox is the top G
Blue beast Gohan lives!!!!
😳😳
no🙂
Yes
Someone mentioned blue beast?
This guy is one of my favorite lf's the animation is just amazing.
Its fr super clean
@@PlayyBox i washed 14 star beast gohan with 4 star evoken, 7 star purple ui (zenkai) and three star mvp 17 (he had pan and ultra gohan too)
@@fusionsv prime example of a person who depends on their units (not you the beasthan guy)
@evoken360 I have cooked people who use ultra gohan while using beasthan you just have to play your cards right
Where are you ranking Beast Gohan now?
Prob top 10
At least top 15
Top 10
I’d say5 😅
His still top 10
do a revisit on lf rose
NOBODY CAN'T BEAT HIM WHEN HE IS BEAST GOHAN🗣🔥🔥🔥
Even 17 and ul gohan?? 😳😳😳
@@PlayyBox maybe he can beat them
@@muneebsajid1692Probably 17 but its low, but he is not getting past Ultra Gohan.
I love how Beast + Gogeta happened this year as well. We got Transforming Beast Gohan and Revival Gogeta
Playbox is still one of my favourite youtubers honestly top quality content and W interaction with subs 💯
appreciate it :)
@@PlayyBox no worries anytime 💯👍
Hes built to last tbh. When Ultra Gohan came out people were saying his time was over but I'm seeing him around more and more
To be honest this Gohan never gave me any trouble even on release I feel as though he was overhyped and now he’s no threat from experience.
Who said he is falling off? I use him alongside ultra gohan everyday in pvp and he is still a beast.
I see what u did there 😏
Idk man hes defence fell off same for his damge
@@mohamdlftat5207the blue card still does insane dmg and it’s not that he fell off in dmg, it’s just that s17 and ultra gohan are stupidly op
@@mohamdlftat5207his defense isn’t bad individually bad. The meta is blast based rn so when building around him you need blast based defense bench.
5:48 why is gogeta is some Micheal Jackson ahh pose😂😂
LMAOO
💀
Zamasu are u ok, Zamasu are u ok, are u ok Zamasu 🕺
Now the real question is, has the Gammas fallen off?
Bro they fell long ago.
def
Bro I been kicking all ass with transforming Beast and Ultra Goku
I think top 10 but that definitely doesn’t mean he fall off hard like tag evoken
And he still a beast and his transformation full gauge is like a 1 free snipe kill
Top 10⁉️💀 top 3 at least
@@Ferix173definitley not 3 maybe 5 behind super 17 ul gohan uui and goku bardock
@@imjunygoku and bardock can get two shotted by a 1% so no
@@Martin51839facts
@@imjuny gohan>Uui/Barku don’t see anything they are better than him and I would personally put Ug on top 1 and beast/17 replaceable for me on top 2 but I rather take beast
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they drop an ultra beast Gohan in next legends fest
And moves? Bro just has a kick move and a special beam canon in. Movie
@@Monster-vu2hqYep they just squeezed everything from this Gohan but as long as they gonna get money from it they will do it
I wouldnt either
@@tomiokawater maybe a game original moves just like super gogeta first summonble ultra
@@Monster-vu2hq yep
I went back to playing legends near the end of the lf super 17 double z power after quitting legends bc i spend nearly 10k cc on lf muis banner and got nothing new not even the transforming vegeta or a featured lf so if a character THIS broken is "falling off" then i am utterly screwed 6 ways from sunday
Don’t you DARE say that my glorious pookie bear red beast fell off 👿👿👿
Gohan is not falling off
I've never doubted the beast for even a second, I always knew that once a beast always a beast. Anyways attempt number 47 at asking Playbox to 1v3 with LF Beerus
Beast gohan with ultra gohan and blue beast still kick ass for me and i use them daily.
I think that the benefits that Beast brings is still enough to keep him in Top 5 slightly above units like UUI and on the same level as Barku.
Ability to get rid of a vanish, 1v3 possibilities with vanish replenishment abilities, good damage, synergy with good teams like S.O.M., Hybrids, Son family, basically infinite blue cards, it makes him a unit that is not as individually impressive compared to 17 and UGohan, obviously, but honestly imo gives him better team utility than 17 and maybe even UUI.
Imo Top 3-4 unit, def not 1-2, but definitely not under top 5.
Top 3 definitely but to be personally top 2 under Ug and above 17
I’d say still don’t sleep on this guy yet cause man I’m still using him now and I can’t tell you the amount of times he’s saved me
Oh definitely, his blue still be hitting
Crazy to believe people saying he's falling off, Beast his the best drop combo and Unique gauge (other than top 3 units)
Please show your opponent bench as well :) (e.g. gofrieaza, gold frieza, MVP, I could not spot the bench, and do not understand how was that team that strong :), thanks!)
He hasn’t officially fallen off, u just hardly see anyone using melee type units, one of the reasons are armor break blast cards now exists
I don't know what folks are talking about Beasthan still cooking for me, I one shot UVB and 2 shot Ultra SSJ2 Gohan just recently
As a beast gohan victim he is not falling off 😭😭😭
This meta is full of strike counter units....i really miss the strike attacks animation so clean and combos with them was so satisfying so watch...😙
Could you please revisit zenkai lf full power jiren and zenkai lf ssj4 goku
worst timing of all time, he can be ran with frieza, both movies, and with gohan IF PEOPLE CHOSE TO. anywho, movies boutta be unstoppable.
Great video Playbox!
Thanks bro!
Can't belive i don't see Mr Beast Gohan in pvp. Thank god
I really dislike how other people make a unit fall off due to a unit countering a card, hes still top 5.
Funny how people sayin dat beast Gohan is fallin off but yet they still use him literally doesn't make no sense to me
Never regret summoning on him 😊
Hey playbox have you heard that the reveals and stuff 35 is coming tomorrow😊😊😊😅 which unit do you think it is 😅😊i want it to be tag Frieza and cooler lf
i think def some sort of LoE unit
Hes prob still 3rd. I dont see amy unit other than ultra gohan and 17 having more impact on the game than him. His utilty and ability to stall with so much vanish restore and the ridiculous full hand destruction + gauge reduction on transform are extremely powerful. USB goku might be better at some situations but i do think gohan does better overall and he also has a decent amount of healing which lets him soak some damage early on cuz he'll restore it eventually
Old movies revisit?
bro can’t afford to lose 😭🙏🏿
Nah he still him, that vanish rest from his blues is still insane
its crazy fr
Nah I always see him with pan😭
In my opinion he's top 3 he's carrying me alongside ultra gohan in top 3k pvp and his blue card is scary
top 5 but the fact that hes strike based makes him drop from higher spots
He’s literally my most recent relevant unit pulled. My PvP career is in his hands if there’s any to begin with.
Gotta say before getting a three star s17 or one copy of gohan. He was terrifying. Since those two dropped, he can tear you apart if you don’t have any of those two. (I didn’t get baby sadly)
Ur beast destroys planets but raz’s beast whos maxed will destroy the entire world 😭🙏
😭😭😭
*1. S17*
*2 SSJ2 Gohan*
(EVER SO SLIGHTLY BELOW 17 because of his combo potential I guess..)
*3. Beast Gohan* (red obviously)
If beast was better earlier on in the game, then he would probably still be number 1, or 2 behind 17 bro
Honestly i always get triggered because when i have a character who has a blast cover change and the other player was using blasts but then when you switch to that character they have a strike
Skill issue. Predict the cards a little better, your timing will be better. Read the opponents moves. Play like you play there game 2 in your mind. They have the same options. Do you keep count of the cooldown and there vanish?
No I have not @TrappyTrapTracks
crazy how the moment i try a new team i go against you. ggs ur tuff
My main team is ui ultra goku,ultra gohan and red beast gohan the team is alright ig but in my opinion gohan is onlt good for the main vanish reduction and his last stand damage but overall hes a good char but he def gets carried by my gohan and ui goku frrr
Just give him some tanky equips and use him to tank hits when you are getting combo'd. He will fill his gauge fast and you can go for the early carry with him, maybe swap into UI for a snipe, and just save Ult Gohan for the late game clutch. Basically red beast is ur tank/starter unit, UI is there to snipe their carry, and green Gohan for the finish. I have a team just like this and it's ez wins. I rarely lose to s17 tbh, more scared of UI sniping UltHan or a random rush than anything else.
I’ve had zero issues with this unit. He’s still top 2
No I don't think Ultimate Gohan ( RED ) AKA Beast Gohan is weak, I think he got buffed because of new Ultra Gohan ( GRN )
Beasthan is the goat, he may not be the best. But Idc he’s the ultimate clutch card, the amount of games I’ve clutched with him is countless. When he transforms, you know it’s GG
5:45 It looked like Gogeta was hitting a dap when the forfeit screen showed
I was thinking the same
Bro you should definitely try Bird Goku and get UNLIMITED card draw speed and DESTROY pvp
Before the release of SSJ2 Gohan he was pissing me off so much but rn he's not the same as before
my goat did NOT fall off😭🙏🏾
Quick tip when you reach the buu saga in budokai 2 you can get ssj2 goku if you defeated vegeta before he becomes majin vegeta
My gohan is okay….
People said he fell off when he can clearly one shot any unit with the right equipment 💀
Gohan is still top 10 but I’ve seen too many people transforming early and not taking advantage of the bonus damage given after a certain amount of time 🤦🏽♂️
Even at five stars he still cooks like crazy for me bro I pulled a 1V3 with Beast Gohan
If you somehow mess up doing the drop before the transformation you can back dash first before attacking
This unit has a nuke for a blue card, his gauge/green card don't care if you're a blue unit, drop blue on transforming obliterates anyone. This unit gave me so many clutches in 1 v 3 situations. It's top 5 easily. My setup was lf pikkon,lf super 17 and him but now it's new 16, lf 17 and zenkai red cell. I miss playing him tbh
All the people complaining about UL Gohan, theres a way to kinda eliminate him quickly. Gohan, unlike S17, Beasthan and UUI does not really reduce ultimate power. This means using UUI's switch mechanism against Gohan is a free kill. Although, for this to work, all the odds need to be in your favour. A good amount of blast cards or low gauge gohan, Main ability activated so you can Nullify his endurance and the main thing is the Cover change nullification. With all 3 of these conditions, Gohan can be dealt with. If you guys have any other ways please share your reply as I need it badly to deal with this monstrosity😭
This man can still cook. I suppose the only two threats to this man is Bombku and UL Gohan. An unskilled UL Gohan user can be dealt with using UUI or Beast pretty easily. Bombku is just really tanky and as long as you play safe against him, you dont have to worry about him depleting your health instantly like Gohan's counter or S17's counter. Easily top 3 or 2
He lacks utility in a meta where if you don’t have disrupt endurance or counter gauge you just can’t tank at all
My boi dropped a vid early bc he knows I’m abt to be in math class 👍
this the same time as always lol
When I saw the thumbnail I thought you were talking about blue beast gohan
bro is nowhere to be found lmao
I am damn sure I'll enjoy this vid
Lf 17 and ULTRA Gohan: We are the exception 🗣🗣🗣
9:39 golden frieza did die, you popped his half so he lived..
This beasthan still performs very well, similar to his blue counterpart. Dbl just keeps releasing these broken ahh units that keeps overshadowing both evoken and red beasthan.
Would never happen to a full limited time transformation team
cuz its already at rock bottom
@@PlayyBox alright not gonna lie that was pretty good I’ll give you that
"he can't kill with one strike he fell off"
He's the last unit that made sense, everything went downhill after the next unit got released
When anniversary comes, he won’t be the best in the game but still good and usable
he already isnt the best lol
People who say he fall off probably go against monoblue everyday. He definetly is not as good as on release but he's still crazy good.
i mean if he's not as good as he was on release, that means he fell off a bit (falling off =/= bad btw)
@@PlayyBoxye but it's not as much as people make it look like :/
I have a cool idea, Red Transforming Frieza from the ROF Saga. He could use a Zenkai, and you can perhaps show us why! Also, love ya vids!
Playbox is the only guy that can make dbl look easy 💀
He’s NOT falling off (I want him)
after a striker card, swipe up so you don't drop. strike card, swipe up, special/ultimate/ect
My goat will never fall off
6:03 bro casually started yapping about whatever while taking a whole ass combo 2 blue card and still not going under half hp
LMAOOO
Beast is still good I’m gonna be sad when he not 😢
Then we’ll get tag beast and orange pickle
This will break the game like every gohan character@@PlayyBox
Then we'll get zenkai Gohan ☠️
@@PlayyBoxzenkai blue beast💀
you should do a paralysis card team super 17, ex evil buu etc..
I think he's still Top 5 he's not number 1 anymore but that doesn't mean he's like falling off
Hes gone because everyone is using the same soulless team of ultra gohan super 17 and revival cell 💀
Definitly in the top 5 still especially when running him with ultra gohan
You could say the same to UGB but at the end of the battle you notice they are just getting started
He is strong but is imposibble play him at the really high level(RN)
He is still a top unit, he provides so much not only for himself but for the team aswell, to me he is still one of the best units in the game.
That said, day 62,use the following setup of mono grn team with ultra rose, evoken and revui while on the bench use zenkai god toppo, zenkai ssb vegeta and red god goku.
I think a vid using all forms of shallot is a amazing idea
I think u should take a lot at the channel 😅
@@PlayyBox did u alr do that?
Ngl I feel like he got help from Ultra Gohan since he gets the hybrid boost and he counters blued