bro you are doing a public service exposing these people ive asked multiple people outside the gmod sphere and they all agree that you cannot allow nsfw content on a server EVEN IN PRIVATE and allow kids on at the same time. it's a recipe for disaster. coupled with the age verification right over their head, it makes it super easy for a predator to find their victim. you pick one or the other, allow nsfw content or allow kids. doesn't matter if you have a rule to keep it in private, you're still facilitating nsfw content on a server with minors present hot take though(probably not that hot tbh lol), i think anyone who wants to allow kids into an adult sphere is a weirdo, it doesn't matter if a kid is "mature" or not (calling kids "mature for their age: is common for predators to say in order to coerce/groom them), keep the kids the fuck away, they're annoying, and you have to walk on eggshells to make sure you're not exposing them to things they need to not be exposed to and then to have a kid as an admin, who as part of their job WILL be exposed to nsfw content, is a whole other nightmare kids should go have fun with other kids so they can develop normally and not grow up to be a weirdo (or worse, groomed) 100% the owner is a predator himself, protecting predators in his community (best scenario, he may just be naive, he does sound young), or he is HARD coping in order to avoid the truth I really hope the owner gets his head out of his ass and sees the bigger picture here (if he's not just making excuses in order to continue facilitating a predator's heaven)
@@Aflalafla Again, the minor is not an admin. Explained that in the video multiple times, but everyone's main defense is to talk over me and ignore all of my points, so not really sure what else can be said. This entire video is just taking things completely out of context and twisting it against me without actually knowing what's happening.
@gingerdanny Stop replying to fruity, they are literally one of these people if you look at their yt page. Mlp is a gravity well for “questionable people” that really want to hide this fact
"You see a minor, and the first thing you think of is sexual." Yeah I don't blame him for thinking they're in danger in a server with NSFW art and people walking around with [18+] in their name.
@@gingerdanny I don't think you're understanding my point here.. Let me explain. There is SFW and NSFW. SFW = safe for work. This is.. Safe for work.. Safe for kids.. When something is SFW that means it is NOT NSFW. NSFW = not safe for work. This is graphic content like p*rn0graphy. When something is NSFW that means it is NOT SFW, that means children cannot view this. So when an art spray marked as "No" for NSFW, that means it is not NSFW. That means it is SFW. The art spray in the video is SFW, it is safe for children. You can go back and look at it yourself here [24:37]. As you can see, there is nothing NSFW in this picture. Do you understand now?
During the interview, he was speaking that fast and without taking too many pauses, because he was super excited that there was a new person on the server. Towards the end, he starts speaking like that again because, and I think there's a term for it, he was desperately trying to defend himself and was feeling cornered. Like you almost found out what he really does on the server. And you cannot have Not Safe For Work content while also welcoming minors into your community, and in the same breath, say that you're trying to protect minors. It's one or the other. Wtf was this.
Minors should not be on this server. He says it's a safe space right after explaining that one of their community members had been groomed. Minors and NSFW content shouldn't be in the same place no matter the rules, that's just a recipe for disaster and the internet is full of examples...
That is a completely fair point. The reason I say it's a safe space though, is because we are one of few servers who actually go out of our way to get rid of child predators. This is a very tough and sensitive topic, but we are only doing what we think is best for everyone to keep an open and safe community. Separating minors from 18+ content on the same platform has so far worked out better than previous servers that either tried to ban minors and make it a p*rn server, or ban NSFW and make it entirely a "kid friendly" server. Please read the comment I left on this video if you want my full sober side of this, thank you. - Sora Kite
@@fruityhorssse7335 Stop trying to portray yourself as "one of the only servers that moderates against this kind of action!" Every server on GMod does. Most have entire BANS on NSFW and ERP in their servers whatsoever. You are creating and fostering a community for predators. You cannot have a community with minors and nsfw elements. The risk of a someone breaching the restrictions and being groomed by the bad eggs in the community (which has evidently happened before) is far too extreme. Either start ID verifying people to join a private roleplay community so that you have some form of plausible deniability besides this sad scene we've witnessed today.. or just accept the fact that you harbor nonces.
@@gingerdanny Actually a server that harbors [p]'s would be one that is marketed as "kid friendly", because that attracts children and [p]'s into the same space. Also I did mean more like one of the only pony/furry rp servers that moderates this, however even in the broader gmod community spectrum, there is a LOT of communities that have had issues with this and didn't moderate it at all, because they didn't care or see it as a problem. Like for example, remember when Facepunch had to step in and ban the r@p3 swep that was being used on random people as well as children? How about all those "kid friendly" servers that have pr*st!tute as a job for children to play? Yeah I don't think you're speaking much from experience here. You are just speaking from pure emotions and jumping to conclusions about me and my community, despite knowing nothing about it other than a youtuber trolling me and putting words in my mouth. You even came on my profile to tell everyone that I "diddle kids", which you know is not true and have no proof of it.
any grown person who owns a gmod mlp rp server whos letting minors in when 90% of the people in there have "18+" in their name is such a massive red flag lol☠️☠️
bro literally just admitted in his rant to there being pedophiles on the server thats crazy so hes not protecting minors hes actively putting them in a dangerous situation
You are absolutely correct. This is also a true fact that Sora is sweeping under the rug, which is that they had a 16 year old in staff. And if you think I'm a Schizo "which Sora is falsely labeling me as" then you may want to do their research since that one staff member was named Lee Cake. How I know that is because I was there in 2022, and they were trial mod first and then promoted to mod later. So pretty much that Sora is one big creep for having a MINOR in staff. Literally that staff members aren't only supposed to babysit rule breakers but they also have to monitor NSFW and illegal content "discord and in game", kind of sounds like enabling people who are 17 and under to see things that they're not supposed to see until their 18th birthday.
Omfg he's actively how? It's a game you idiot. Don't support a thing but labeling people and assuming is bs. Why it's such a big deal to youbso wierd. Their fuking bronys idiot they bin a thing..
Someone who isn't actually a danger to children wouldn't go on for this long defending himself, muting you to try and force you to listen to what he has to say in desperation that you'll listen to what he has to say, it comes off like an insecurity, like he is he doing something that he shouldn't and feels called out. The whole song and dance he does where he tries to flip the situation onto you and pretend he's concerned about the safety of minors is really funny to me, it's like he lacks self awareness of why someone would make the assumptions simply by looking at the server and it's content and the players on it. I like Garry Newman and Facepunch but they are so incompetent when it comes to moderating the servers that exist on their game, to the point where servers like this and the 1942 servers exist, it's so cringe.
I agree with facepunches hands off approach to moderation, it allows for freedom of expression and creation. This is just one of those cases where it goes bad. 1942 was cool to me, until they were just regular uptight gmod roleplayers then I was sorely dissapointed
I had to defend myself because he wasn't even letting me talk, and this is a very sensitive not to mention, extremely serious discussion. [P] rumors are nothing to take lightly, and I feel like I have every right to defend my community as well as myself, when we are not doing anything wrong. Also Facepunch does still moderate their servers. Just a few months ago, they completely blacklisted a server because it was strictly 18+ and it was a complete mess.
@@fruityhorssse7335 If you really are the owner of the server in this video, you need help. It is still strange that you allow a minor onto the server let alone make him an admin, also what is the purpose of an "18+" thing on your name tag if your server is to be a safe space for all ages? Having an 18+ tag kind of implies that there is NSFW things happening hence the need for the tag existing. And your "defending" of yourself is again strange, because you went to the extent of muting the guy calling you out and then doing this weird act of "you're thinking of minors doing sexual stuff, you're making me feel weird" when you know damn well why he would think that when taking a first glance at your server and the content on it.
the first guy in the right top corner, you can see his playtime JUST on the server and he's played on THIS ONE SERVER for 73 weeks. THATS 12408 HOURS HOLY FUCK
Well hello there, I'm literally a victim to Sora and Ironstone's Public Enemy #1. This isn't an "underage" thing for myself (because I was 25 when I joined in October of 2021 till my unfair banishment in mid 2022) since this is more of being bullied, harassed, manipulated, coerced, degraded. (and you get the point, etc.) October 2021: I joined Ironstone somewhere around before Halloween and things were fine until May of 2022 Somewhere around Late 2021 or early 2022: I was invited to join a small and upcoming DarkRP Server and they eventually got me on staff (this will come in later of how things got worse) Early to May of 2022: I had a server romantic relationship with one of Ironstones Staff Members which their name was Lavender (used to be named Ivy Rain but changed to Lavender then Chaos,) we were server dating, but one night is where the both of us had an ERP Session. I still remember that night since a user who is named Azazel Silvertongue, showed up to the house and said, "You two living together?" and I responded with "Yes" where he did reply with "May I come in?" and I allowed it, all of us went to the basement and watched some TH-cam videos till he had to leave, Lavender and I got to the real Fun, but when it was over that they said "You still want to date me?" and "Do you still love me?" I didn't know how to respond and then things went down hill with Lavender just snapping by saying in quote "I was recently broken up by someone else and you just made it worse" to which Lavender just got up and leave and then things got worse as time went on that lead to a stupid drama over the ERP. Mid 2022: Sure that continued as the months went on as I kept on complaining about it to anyone else, this also resulted in getting someone to spy for me (regretful decision on my end) since they came straight to me in that upcoming DarkRP Server named at the time "Big and Original," but then one night that I got pulled into a sham admin sit where it had Sora and Lavender (now known as Chaos) and they berated, "lectured," and falsely accusing me of the following (Harassment, Degradation of Chaos' Mental Health, and somehow breaking the server rules by showing disrespect to Sora's Cult of Personality,) they warned me to keep my yap shut about it and I did just that and was let go. Rest of 2022: Things got even worse as I continue complaining again and again is where the Server Owner for B&O (who I was working along side with who is named Psycho Turtle/Fluff/Zedex) literally told me to quit it in an annoyed coerced tone to "apologize" to the people that I kept on complaining it to and screenshot my apologies to others straight toward him or else be booted out of the staff team and I followed through with it, we had a "keep quiet and stay neutral" embargo policy at the time of being told to do so, later on that the B&O Server owner removed that embargo policy and encouraged me to complain about it once more. Of course they did a 180 and falsely believed that I made an Alt account to join Ironstone and call for a worthless server war (which I have no idea what a Server War is and that I'm perma banned from in game and their Discord Server) from someone using the B&O Discord Servers Modmail Bot to get in contact with Psycho and he came in REALLY angry within my DM's while I was on Roblox playing Cabin Crew Simulator and chilling in a friends Discord VC listening to some Music and I got booted from the staff team for NO REASON, I know that I wouldn't stoop THAT low in making alt accounts and wanting a so-called "Server War," since someone was impersonating me either on Steam or Discord or maybe made doctored/photoshopped screenshots to look like I said such horrible things. Airy (another fellow that plays on Ironstone) also followed suit for the same reason and falsely accused ME of doing it (which again, I didn't even do) and tried to explain it but didn't believed me and decided to block me entirely I do remember before being booted out was another thing that got me falsely accused of things that I didn't even do was influenced (or well, Coerced) people to do things like telling a person named Kizzi to leave Gmod entirely which isn't even true at all, then another was when I was in the B&O Discord Server VC with the Owners Girlfriend named Annette (formally known as Scarlet Heart,) she was streaming the Spyro Trilogy and we invited her friend Mindkiller to join us, he politely declined for "Reasons" and we just continued on our own, she later got bored of streaming and asked "do you got anything to stream?" I sadly said no, then she said "I'm heading off to bed, you have a good night" and I said the same for her to have a good night as well and we both left the VC, of course, she lied and went to Ironstone to where later she lost her marbles and DMed me about Mindkiller leaking B&O Staff Chats to Ironstone Staff and then almost decided to well, (you imagine her reaction because of TH-cam's ToS/Guideline Policies) while I was asleep. I later awaken somewhere around Lunch before Early Dinner to read about what happened and decided to talk to Mindkiller in his DM's which he didn't respond and he was booted from staff for doing that. Mid to late 2022 and early 2023: After being booted is where everyone jumped on the hate train against me and put false accusation after false accusation like the following (Hostile, Liar, Manipulative, Harasser, Predator, Forced Influencer, etc) I caught Annette lying that she said and in quote "I never told Madden to off himself" on someone's Twitch Stream when she actually did in my DM's to "Jump off the nearest bridge," they then proceeded to put my I.P Address on the B&O Staff Chat "Then renamed to the Oasis Project" because of the false harassment accusation which means they now know where I live (Privacy invasive ain't it?) all because that I wanted to check to see if I was given the old ban screen message but was shadow banned which means that I can still join normally and walk around, but not do anything at all. Annette even went as far as to use the excuse claim that it was an alt, but it actually backfired since the so called "Steam ID" she put out leads straight back to me instead of some alt account which would've had some different Steam ID on the URL instead of my Custom Steam Link. I also got falsely accused of ruining B&O/Oasis Project's chance at getting a player base when in reality that we couldn't find a way to advertise the server WITHOUT trying to poach players, that's what killed the server since the ERP Drama had NOTHING to do with it. The Predator thing is all a lie since Sora is making that up by falsely accusing ME for knowing about the user Lee Cake in being a staff member and that I "Like her romantically" when seriously, that lie is all in Sora's head when I was just bringing up another problem with Ironstone in allowing minors into Staff when Sora had said in quote "We don't allow minors into staff," when that's apart of Ironstones history and Sora was apart of the vote and a Super Admin at the time but still, that really doesn't cut the actions for Ironstone doing such a horrible act after all and will forever be apart of their own history. I had NOTHING to do with it nor will I EVER do such a horrible act, my father would really disown me since he worked as law enforcement for YEARS until his retirement, I look up to him and never want to ruin his trust in me being a law abiding citizen. Epilogue: Here we are, two years later and it's finally coming to an end with Ironstone falling apart and people leaving just by noticing how Sora is showing their true colors as time goes on, I got insulted by Sora on X "Formally Twitter" when all I did was just welcoming them to Twitter/X, the tweet/post is no longer available, but I kept it archived at all cost, I made a ban appeal and Sora is still as hostile as ever, but now that people are seeing Sora for who they really are as an unprofessional owner that's manipulative, hostile, liar, harasser, predator, and schizophrenic, is where their downfall is happening and as to where everybody can move on from the Ironstone server for their own sake of peace "including myself." Now you know what happened to me and how I was wrongfully treated like some kind of monster that is "in the wrong" and "The World doesn't revolve around me" when it's the opposite. There is no "World Revolve" thing and that the people who treated me wrong are the people who are in the wrong. Sure I made the two mistakes of doing an ERP and having someone spy for me but I learned to never do THAT since then, as for the false accusations like being (hostile, manipulative, mentally abusive, alt account maker, server destroyer, harasser, etc) isn't and will NEVER be true at ALL. Now if you excuse me that I got other things to do like play other games and even Tower Unite.
@@donatorimagine It no longer is up and considered forever closed, it was announced on their forums and discord after Sora finally realized the error of their ways and decided to move on from "PonyRP"
@@Prosper_Dean Well, that ERP and later having someone spy for me on the next person they moved onto were mistakes and were the only mistakes, idk where the OTHER people (Now they hang out on Trottingham and Diverge Fallout Equestria) got their so-called "Accusations/Claims" on the other stuff I've mentioned since besides the regretful ERP and spying incident that I didn't do *ANYTHING* else but complain after complain about how I was later getting treated like crap.
54:44 "theres other games that kids play that adults also play, like fortnite, call of duty" neither of those games allow for ANY amount of nsfw content. You can't even have cartoon boobs in your emblem, you'll get banned. fucking wild
@@madden8021 yeah either you allow nsfw content and dont allow minors, or your allow minors but dont allow nsfw content. its mutually exclusive, the moment you try and do both is the moment you are exposing minors to nsfw content. it will happen. it'll happen even if you do completely ban minors, because kids lie about their age all the time, but at least you're not fostering an environment for children to be exploited, because you're still removing the minors as you find them
@@Aflalafla Sora did say that in the video which got deleted "later reuploaded to Patreon" that he banned anyone who are 17 and under "aka Minors" but then Sora removed their comment after awhile of it being there. So I guess that it became official then and now everybody has to hand over their ID's to be "checked" if one is 18 or not, even though it's never a good idea to hand someone you don't know over the internet your ID like Government issued, Drivers License, or whatever as it sets a breach of Privacy and I think a Violation of Discord's ToS/Guidelines since that's their only form of communication.
It'd be faster to say what I don't do tbh. We print Government documents, evidence bags, stuff like that for them. Other jobs are usually envelopes, bags, placemats, sales papers you might find in a magazine, things for charities and religious organizations. I help keep the machine running and help make sure the pieces all come out perfectly as a second man.
Ikr, it ain't putting Sora in the right to talk while looking like he's "the savior of PonyRP" when he's in the wrong and being pro CP While also suffering from Schizophrenia.
Ayo I smoke to much and you bugz bunnied the shit outta that guy, "duplexes? What maps do you play that have duplexes?" "Almost all of them" "Well..can you like..give an example? Or.." "Hey is this time square??" 😂😂😂😂
Check out sora's own post and the others he's infected in peoples replies. He doesn't stop yapping which is giving everybody headaches to his schizophrenic paragraphs and made up lies.
thank you for stopping it i have epilepsy and you probably just saved me a seizure, i actually appreciate the thoughtfulness. as well, most of the pony community is chill but they be lettin kids in and stuff on this server. alot of the ppl i know are in the fandom and aren't pieces of shit
I personally don't like it when people shake players around like that, I feel like there does need to be more awareness for epileptic people. Thank you for your honesty and being open minded.
@fruityhorssse7335 of course, living with some pony folks as we speak and yeah thats absolutely fair as well. just personally for me i think it could have been handed differently, also minors in adult spaces are always a yike imo
@@yurilover87 Honestly, I agree. It's done nothing but cause issues for us. The funny thing is though, it's caused more issues with people like Glass and in the comment sections calling us [p]'s way more than we've had actual issues with [p] happening on the server. It's an unfortunate reality, but the last 18+ server got taken down because it was an NSFW nightmare and it didn't stop minors from getting on. So at some point we just gotta pick a middle ground. This will definitely be a discussion for our next staff meeting though, I am always looking for ways to make this community safer.
No middle ground needed, if you want nsfw shit in your life you can find it somewhere other than garrys mod. Remove the nsfw content from the server, it is disgusting and weird.
I honestly thought some of the stuff I did leave in was still a bit too much, I have had family with epilepsy so its a touchy subject and I respect those with it and would hate to be the reason a seizure occurred.
I'm surprised that Facepunch ain't really looking into it more, neither will Hasbro stand up and finally double down in protecting the MLP IP and Brand
Gmod .."we need ro crack down on the (OBVIOUSLY NOT OK) shit on 1942 rp" Everyone.. "yeah thats probably a good idea..hey what about that cringe/creepy pony rp thing over there 👉?" Gmod.."...................🤷"
"I have a daughter now so I have to think about the world I'm putting them into." *Bans the Nazi servers, keeps the pedo servers* What did Garry Newman mean by this?
@@gingerdanny Probably cause a server that heavily restricts NSFW content doesn't make it a [p] server lol gotta also ask why Facepunch took down other servers, including an 18+ one very recently but had no problem with Ironstone. I guess the world will never know...
its crazy that the dude tried to say youre under 20 and then they all started torturing you until you told them your age do you think they do this to every minor
i would play on servers like this back in like 2014 or something, i was about 13 or 14 years old, and of course i liked mlp, it's targeted towards children like me at the time. I got Gmod when i was younger, cuz i saw youtubers play it, and i wanted to enjoy the game myself. sadly, my parents are not the greatest at moderating their own children, but i came across so many pedos playing mlp gmod its fucking insane, i got groomed a lot by servers like this, and also those cinema ones aswell. but this server is extremely fucking weird, the owner is NOT mature. He had to mute you he let his lil "friendship" gang fucking turn and toss you around like a fuckn toy. yeah they are so fuckn mature, you are setting a GREAT example for that minor that i've seen in the entire fucking video. Good job!👍
This just looks like a victim perpetuating the cycle. I'm not defending bro, but think for a moment. This guy says off the rip that he's 22 and has been doing this for 10 years. That means he started at 12, an age just as impressionable as the audiences he's keeping around him. I don't play Gmod, but I can tell the differences between close-knit groups and organized safe spaces, this is just a bunch of strangers from across the globe looking to get their rocks off however they see fit. If he had a sound mind, any adult-themed things would be in a private server with the proper background checks, so there wouldn't be any risky business for the younger audiences in the first place. Whether conscious or not, he's making a decision to introduce these things to a younger people, and whether or not he sees it as one, an attempt to normalize what is not deemed normal for the age ranges the server supposedly caters to. Whether or not he's still up and running, only God knows, but I'm hoping for the day these people decide to take accountability for what they allowed to happen, and recognize the depths of their disgusting actions (or lack thereof in preventative measures). What's even further fascinating, is that he's the "only original staff left", who then became the owner. All the old staff either "resigned, or got fed up with drama". So either these staff members got so sick of seeing this shit go on, or they had something deeper to do with the server's history, and ran for the hills. There was never any "joining at the wrong time" because you saw through these people like, well, Glass. 70 and some odd weeks is enough said, and to hold back all of that sour information about other people for the last minute is definitely a way of projecting the blame to save some skin in the situation. If you're running 18+ tags in a public place like that, saying you have those restrictions to keep the youngins safe, you've already fucked up, astronomically. To put forward any reasoning in these comments, such as, "People lie all the time about their ages", and "removing all risky content and promoting kid friendly spaces entices these types of people", it isn't bullshit, moreover, it's a reason to acquire a sense of responsibility, and take accountability for the mess that's been made, all while perhaps accepting the fact that he was never fit to run an establishment of this kind (quite like a majority of these folks that I've seen out there, unfit for their positions they hold). I've seen the replies he's made, and they're nothing short of disgraceful for the eyes. 2 years older than me, and can't even hold up his end of an argument without silencing the other person to spew his incoherent nonsense, let alone facing his own words being put on display, trying to contradict everything that's already been said. I don't even see this as a trolling video, this is just calling it as we see it. Being knowledgeable of past incidents, and claiming that it's "safe for kids, despite the adult aspects" is a false narrative being pushed by the owner, thus perpetuating the cycle. Recognize the pattern, and put it to an end. There is no middle ground between a private server for adults and a public safe space for kids. There is no middle ground, period. Being a fence sitter makes him look inconsistent; It nullifies any argument he puts forward, and obscures what the true intentions of the place are, when he isn't receiving impromptu interviews, but I think we all know better. Yeah, you can go and do weird shit in private, behind closed doors, but when a minor walks through that open door, the one that this guy hypothetically wants ripped off its hinges. When he does just that, tears the door off its hinges, they (the children) are being subjected to a whole lotta shit they shouldn't see at their age. It's unacceptable, and it must end. Much to our own dismay, there's a number of places like this one, and the people running them; They're all carbon copies, no matter where you find them. I don't encourage hit pieces, per se, but this was everything, everywhere all at once, and puts a spotlight on the shit that just ain't right in our world. I strolled in on this channel only recently, and the trolling content is peak, but this is an exquisite work. It's not putting words in his mouth if he basically started out by asking "tits or ass", he just refuses to accept the predicament he's placed himself in, as many of these people live in consistent denial of their actions.
Anyone who actually played pony rp before ironstone knows how bad it used to be. There never were restrictions on nsfw or anyone banning groomers at all it happened in the open and nobody said anything. Sora is barely even an adult and has only been owner of Ironstone for a year and has already single handedly done more for the safety of the pony community than anyone else in the entire history of pony rp. There is always more they can do to upgrade security, but it makes me mad that real predators are always swept under the rug while the 1 server that tries to moderate nsfw and protect minors is being attacked and owner is called a "pdf file" for no reason! This is wrong leave them alone!!
@@ChickenDeek Idk why my comment was removed but why dont you go to ponyscape and interview the owners there instead? They recently unbanned a few PDF files and have no rules against nsfw or minors. They have a long history of allowing predators on the server and sweeping it under the rug, everyone on pony rp knows this which is why they play ironstone instead. At least look up "ponyscape" on youtube or watch one of bub games videos he trolls on there multiple times it is very nsfw and very unfiltered. Your attacking the wrong server your not actually seeing the bad part of pony rp yet
this guy is reaching harder than mj did for those dunks bro this is crazy dude thinks hes doing the server a justice by keeping nsfw content out of public to protect minors, but doesnt see a problem letting children be on a server that allows nsfw content, or even further have an admin that is a minor, and DUE TO HIM BEING AN ADMIN he WILL be exposed to NSFW content but they dont care about that because it's all just excuses to deflect from what's really going on. they think theyre slick but anyone with a functioning frontal lobe can tell whats going on
Already explained in the video that the minor isn't an admin. We don't allow minors on the staff team. The only reason they were able to pick him up, is because he got the silly rank which allows anyone to pick him up and toy with him, something that was also shown in the video.
@@fruityhorssse7335 "We don't allow minors on the staff team" Remember that quote since Lee Cake was 16 when they were staff and YOU are owner, isn't that scary and concerning to hide it under the rug while letting a minor to be ON the staff team? Admit it Sora, You can't hide the truth.
Well, it's called a "silly role" which I would actually call it the "We hate Minges/trolls role so #### you" which means that everyone can use their physguns and drag you around like a ragdoll until you either get annoyed of it and leave or rejoin and they continue doing it. Kind of very stupid if you ask me
That server is indeed gone. My guess is that Sora finally has no more funds to keep the server and had to cancel it from its continuation, someone else bought the server that was once his and turned it to a kaiserreich rp server. As for Sora themselves, they have private their steam profile which means that they're finally no longer a threat and "hopefully" left the internet to seek medical and professional help.
@GlassWindowGames Want a funny anecdote for that server? I used to be an admin on it, and at one point, I had a loong 2 hour argument with the owner about how we shouldn’t be allowing videos of puppies being drowned by being thrown into rivers. Dude was weirdly insistant about leaving that type of content allowed. Just really weird vibes from him all around. Swamp cinema hides alot of dark secrets. My heart knows it. Oh yeah and the owner openly jerks off to MLP lol.
Was an admin on swamp and had a 2 hour argument with the owner about how we shoild not allow vids of ppl drowning puppies lol. He was weirdly insistant on allowing them. Theres alot of weird hidden shit in swamp. Oh yeah and the owner openly strokes it to mlp rule 34. You're welcome for that info.
I used to play on knab, they deserve the bad reputation! The developer was exposed for doing erp with a minor and the staff defended them. And on horserp they openly defended PDF-filia and the staff team was mix of minors and adults with PDF accusations and openly did nsfw with children. Why did horserp or knab not get this attention?
I feel bad for the owner i dont think he means any harm he just kinda getting fucked with but other pony servers letting grown men groom children all the time so at least they have some level of security
ok so like i saw this and i think i lost a few brain cells, i didn't watch like more then 5 minutes of the video but people have been yap maxing about it, I'm actually a part of the community as well but im not here to write a wall of text dawg idgaf. Im just gonna put a disclaimer that i dont actually know that much about what the videos about but i have a general idea i think idk LOL, im not reading the 80 paragraph comment or watching the video so i dont have a clue... but like id be lying if i saw these community weren't like radioactive magnets attracting people who are down with a certain kind of "syndrome" and people whose motivations are a little questionable. But like in the long run the server is not that bad, im not saying any of you should play on it unless you either want to argue with people with the brain capacity of myself or for some strange reason have an a- tizm hyperfixation to the stupidest shit you can find like me. But in the servers defense its actually not that bad, im not saying you should understand it because i cant wrap my head around it, id be lying if i said i didnt have fun but i also dont think its even possible to have a conversation with 60% of the playerbase. The most awful thing that normally happens is someone is really braindead and another braindead person argues with them, [p] isnt really a staple of the server. I couldnt tell you why the owner tried to cover so hard because no, its not a good look. But there are bad people in every community who need to be taken care of. The only reason i defend the server is because i know its like the one in every 10 server you find where the staff and players arent consistently trying to get a child grooming streak. Bad people pop up but apparently there is some sort of divine intervention because they always get banned, which is not something i can say about many other gmod servers, especially the pony ones 🤯. Theres this one server called ponyscape that died because the owner protected {p} and enabled their behavior, i would consider this a great example of what the server could be if the staff didnt give a shit. But to the surprise of myself and im sure many of you, the staff actually try there best to stop any of that stuff before it gets to far. its very rare in these communitys that the server isnt run by an ego driven soon to be jared from subway. So id like to give credit where its due and say i cant justifiably lie and say they dont give a shit, because they do. I just think the entire situation is stupid funny and wanted to give my opinion, im honestly pretty neutral on the situation so you can either flame me and call me a brony {r}tard child lover and be as equally brain dead as the people you make fun of or just read the shit i say and laugh at it and move on, its dealers choice. Most of the times its just a troll who enjoys being an asshole which is fine with me lmao, and a server member playing cat and mouse, i think at the end of the day arguing over something like this is stpupid because its the internet and people just wanna laugh at it. But i for some reason felt inclined to say something since apparently everyone is getting their rocks off by posting long ass arguments making this seem like its a ceremony to see who can yap the most. I get that sora was making a probably valid point and im not shitting on him but generally speaking it dosent look good to argue in the youtube comments of people who clicked on a video to laugh at what you are. I just wanted to kind of point out that he isnt nessesarily wrong on a lot of what he saids (probably i didnt finish reading the comment or video 😴) and i can justifiably see why he felt inclined to try and explain his perspective. but at the end of the day its litterally youtube comments on a gmod video so you are quite likely hard pressed to find anyone who actually gives a shit. in short i have never played on the server and said "Boy i cant wait to groom some children with my best buds" like its surprisingly something you never see. But like i said some of the people who play on the server are really freaking "special" (id say the a word if youtube wouldnt delete my comment) so clearly they dont understand what being normal is, but ive played on many gmod servers and ive seen this shit a lot so i think its just something that generally applies to most of the servers that exitst, the only difference is because of this servers nature it inherently more cringey and there are way more people who have disabilitys LOL, im not saying the server isnt strange or anything, im just saying its not a child grooming sandbox. I have spoke to the valley animations freak in the past and hes been a consistent joke in my friend group, i was disgusted to learn he was a child lover but its not something that happens often, i consider everyone on the server to be reasonably slow in terms of brain function but even he surpised me, he has got to be missing 2 chromosomes (one less then everyone else) because hes definitely a step above the rest of his competition.
also im not like... saying the server is perfect cause i know some of these people are fucked up, like dont take me out of context here, some of these people are freaky as hell, im just saying grooming children is not something i often see on their to do lists
@@ChickenDeek I wouldn't trust Snowby due to him having a history of using Pac3 Stealing Scripts, Harassing other players, Ban Evading with alt accounts and overall just being an unhinged minge. Snowby is also one of Sora's "inner circle of friends" which does give signs of suspicious activates he does behind the scenes within Sora's "inner circle." Snowby even has a buddy named Scribbles who does just about the same thing as he does which is totally unhinged as well. Kind of messed up and uncivil if you ask me Glass Btw Snowby, Telling me that the 'World doesn't Revolve around me" isn't a valid reason since let's literally use this "World doesn't revolve" in a different approach of tone that IS valid and that's Sora since the World doesn't revolve around Sora and his/her little "inner circle of friends" since people are leaving Ironstone for that so called Fallout Equestria Server which is called in quote "Diverge Fallout Equestria." I hope that some of the current staff in Ironstone would finally speak out against Sora without fear of being removed "aka FIRED" and replaced by someone else. Everything that we know about Sora and Ironstone are slipping through the cracks as time moves on and it literally makes the userbase want to leave said server for another one or even another game entirely. Let's treat the cracks, leaks, evidence, etc like the end of the Cold War once the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain fell since then the West learned everything about what East Germany "and later Eastern Europe" committed with Crimes against Humanity which overturn those nations bad past and given another chance at a new life, some nations ceased to exist and some split up after the cold war which seems similar to what Ironstone is going through right now, people are knowing the truth with how Scummy Sora's Unhinged behavior is in showing their true colors and moving away from the server all together as numbers fall, people leave, and users lose trust on a "cult of personality" leader (which Ironstone is a scam cult btw) Sora will be dried up in money and won't be able to keep the server running sooner or later if nobody even "donates" to his scam of a server and would have to shut down the server. But hey, live in "Sora's World" and "Inner Circle" in the meantime Snowby since I'm in a better place which is Tower Unite and I'm finally at peace and no longer need to deal with Toxicity and Drama which is in fact, GMOD I will put this out there before I end my transmission and that and I will repeat it in quote "The World Doesn't Revolve Around Sora and his/her inner circle of friends" Farewell Snowby "End Transmission"
Howdy folks Co-owner here wanted to make a big shout out to sora for making a really lengthy essay in the comments section ily for that lol. but on a more serious note I wanted to address some things that were glossed over or misunderstood . obviously this is a troll video we're pretty used to it but alot of the comments are quick to point out the concerns of minors on a adult server and accusations of ped0phillia coming from years of experience in the brony/furry fandoms I cannot deny the community is highly sexual and adult oriented. however compared to servers today, pony darkrp of the past was highly ridden with actual groomers, which was encouraged by terrible moderation and lack of security. Hell there was a mlp fallout centric server recently that encouraged public slave/r@pe rp with nothing to stop minors from accessing, which member of my community were quick to report and take down. My staff and community take things like that very seriously, seeing as I helped write all our nsfw rules and conducted the investigation against the groomer sora had mentioned. In all honestly I have been advocating to highly restrict 18 plus content on our server for years and its had some vast improvements (take a look at bubs games video on us for an example how bad it used to be) the issue with this as what I've stated earlier in my comment as well as soras , is this community is mostly adult and accustomed to nsfw. Out right banning that would basically wipe the player base , we had major backlash the moment we even made stricter nsfw rules. Its basically too difficult to just remove and think its not going to happen anyway , which is why we implemented our 18 plus role and made everything private. so then if we cant ensure the removal of all nsfw content, then why not ban minors? that there lies another issue is actually knowing whos a minor. If we wanted even stricter rules that barred minors from joining that would require some level of privacy breaching , either collecting data from users to know their exact birthdate (which we already do in our discord) or going as far as requiring photo copies of legal government IDs. I've been in VRchat groups that had that same level of restrictions and that still failed as its pretty easy to make fake ids or lie about age. basically what I'm saying is, its actually alot more complicated than what everyone is saying to just ban minors, knowing that whatever we do they can still find their way onto the server. same goes for banning nsfw, those people will still find their way in. The only thing that can be done here is better moderation and more diligent admins who watch for these things. with each video like this that comes out, know that we take notice and will try to improve these issues presented. but also know coming into these videos so narrow minded, without doing research and throwing accusations doesn't help anyone or solve any of the problems that come with my community and my server or pony darkrp as a whole. I also encourage people to come on our server not to troll, but to do your own research and come to your own conclusions without some content creators funny trolling video. there have been plenty of people who joined and commended our mod team and friendly relaxed nature. There's plenty of people including some on our staff who aren't even furry/bronies who want to contribute to our server. As well as take a look at my man soras comment again regarding the minor in question. it saddens me as I've suggested to ban them when the grooming situation happened , but it was agreed that it wasnt appropriate since this was a unnecessary reaction to something that 1) the minor had no control over and would feel guilty for their actions which we dont want to encourage , and we feared shed go back to said groomer and 2) banning the minor wouldn't solve the groomers hiding in our community, rather we should target those people as they are not welcome here at all and want to become more vigilant to those behaviors . we want this to be a safe community for everyone as much as possible and if anyone has suggestions to make it even more safe , we'll always listen as long as its constructive and thoughtful not just "haha your a brony that means your a ped0". Anyways Dawny out
Dude... At least if you required ID verification you'd be able to claim you're doing more than.. whatever this is.. cause this clearly isn't your best. I've been in SFW furry communities before, this ain't it. Take a hard stance on 18+ content and ERP, either by banning it or enacting tighter restrictions to keep minors out of the server altogether.
Also the fact that you claim normal people contribute to the community.. LOL.. I'm a furry, and the only time I joined this server I tried to play it like it was a normal DarkRP server. There were no gun dealers, I became a hitman, had no weapons but decided to try and accept a hit anyway and try to convince someone with more hours to become a gun dealer. Everybody treated me like I was a minge for just trying to play the server.. Not an enjoyable experience at all..
Hello, Sora Kite here. I want to re-clarify some of the things that I already stated in the video, because I think most people commenting here have completely missed or ignored any of the points I was making. I understand this is just a troll video and most of this was brought up for a reaction, but I'm honestly really disgusted at how Glass and his commentators are trying to somehow twist this situation to make it seem like we are grooming children. Since a lot of my points were missed in this video and because I was drunk and don't have a good mic, I will explain them in detail here. And yes, I do yap a lot. To start off, I completely understand the concern around minors being on this server. I even said this was a controversial topic to begin with. However, I will reaffirm my point, that we take these issues VERY seriously and we do our best to enforce NSFW rules and keep the server as safe as possible. We have the 18+ check system for people who want to be involved with 18+ content, and people who do not have the 18+ tag are not allowed to be involved with NSFW content. Even then, NSFW is strictly enforced and only allowed in private areas with only people who have 18+ tags, and also not everyone who doesn't have an 18+ tag is a minor, there are plenty of adults who choose not to be involved with 18+ content as well. I say this is a safe space, because of the fact that we take such a strict approach against 18+ rules. Keep in mind most servers (especially past pony servers) had a reputation of not doing ANYTHING to enforce NSFW rules, and that caused a lot of issues with [p]. I myself have been a victim of this when I was 15, and it's why the topic of [p] is such a sensitive topic for not only me but for the entire community. Just to make it clear again, we do NOT support [p], and we in fact do permanently ban anyone who is caught doing this. This unfortunately does not completely prevent bad people from joining the server, however we do everything we can to stop it, and we barely have situations like this happening on the server. Most of our [p] bans are from victims of other communities reaching out to us with information on these people so we can ban them before they even touch the server to begin with. So that's not to say that bad things have never happened within this community, but we have always done our absolute best to keep it away from the server. Now I want to address the minor in question. Dante is a 17 year old girl with learning disabilities. She was the subject of the topic I was talking about involving the person named ValleyAnimations that I brought up. I already explained how we instantly banned him and found out where he was staffing and got him exposed and banned from his other server as well as informing his local police, etc. I want to make it clear that Dante is NOT the only minor within the community, however she is the only one we really need to keep a close eye on, because every other minor (usually around age 16-17 btw) is mature enough to stay away from dangerous people. That being said though, we actually have considered banning Dante after the Valley situation, because we didn't want them to cause anymore trouble with the few bad apples that might be lurking around the community. The main reason we decided not to ban Dante for this situation, is because we were worried that if we did, she would lose the only community she really comes on and then end up following the same groomer who was putting her at risk. This is a very complicated and tough situation to deal with, but I want everyone to know, again, that we absolutely do not condone this behavior towards children, and we will do anything in our power to get rid of it. Now to address one of the main questions in the video and comment section. Why don't we just ban all children? This is a hard position, because if we were to ban all children and make this strictly an 18+ server, Ironstone would be a p*rn server, which we do not want. Even if Ironstone did go that route, minors would still make their way on the server, and I believe that would only make matters worse. If we were to go the other direction and completely ban NSFW content, a lot of the people who do it in their own private time and don't cause issues would be upset, we would lose a lot of our playerbase and it also wouldn't stop everyone from doing it anyways, which again would just cause more issues. Unfortunately, you cannot strip 18+ content from adults in the pony or furry fandom, we all know how that is. The most we can do is heavily restrict it, to prevent bad things from happening. The middle ground here is to let Ironstone be an open community, but completely separate 18+ content from non 18+ users. Our rules specifically state that it must be kept in private, and everyone involved must have an 18+ tag. Breaking these rules always will result in an automatic permaban with no exceptions and no chance to appeal. Now here are my personal issues with this video and some of the people commenting here. I, again, completely understand the concern for minors being on a server with 18+ people, but I feel like everyone has completely ignored my points and are doing everything they can to twist the entire situation to make it seem like I'm actually a [p] or that this server is for [p]'s. Even in the video, when I am explaining everything about how we enforce our rules in great detail, I am constantly being talked over and interrupted. I was not given much of a chance to actually explain myself. I was just automatically given that label from the very beginning simply because "theres a minor and you have been on here for a year". The fact is, there is not a single shred of evidence that proves that anyone on the server at the time, including me, is a [p]. Glass even specified in the video that he was just joking at first, he was trying to get a reaction out of me, but then started twisting it when I got triggered at him constantly suspecting me or my community members of being a [p]. An example of how this situation is being manipulated unfairly against me as at this timestamp here [17:54], where he says I'm "trying to change the subject" and uses the fact that me, being drunk and getting distracted by the crazy situation that was unfolding at the time, was basically fake because I been playing gmod for so long. This is not a fair point to use against me mostly because I actually was trying to stay on topic, and was even the one to bring it back up again after the situation was calm. Not only that, but just because I been playing gmod for that long doesn't mean I can't find a flying truck with broken physics to be funny and distracting while I'm intoxicated and everyone else was laughing about it. But I was not trying to change the subject, I didn't change the subject I went right back into that conversation, because I felt it was important to explain our seriousness about how we enforce our NSFW rules. Another example of how this situation is being manipulated unfairly is when Glass saw Dante's spray at [24:37] and claimed that it was NSFW because it said "Marked as NSFW: No". This is just completely twisting the situation into a full on lie, because obviously having a art that isn't marked for NSFW means that it's SFW. It was not an NSFW spray as Glass claims later on in the video, it was just a picture displaying art of Dante's OC. There was absolutely nothing NSFW about it, go back and look at it. NSFW sprays, as well as all NSFW content is not allowed in public, and also cannot be viewed by minors. In fact, our 18+ system makes sure that people who do not have 18+ tags can NOT see NSFW sprays or content, so Glass was lying about seeing NSFW sprays. There are other examples of Glass manipulating this situation, such as when he saw Dante was a donator, and tried to twist that into something about how that's weird and allures to the idea of us being a [p] server, when that honestly makes no sense, because people donating to the server for a rank is not anything inherently NSFW at all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone of any age donating to a platform they like, and in fact there are LOTS of donators on the server, so Dante is not nearly the only one. He also claims at multiple points in the video that Dante "has admin powers", because she was able to pick him up. I was trying to explain that everyone on the entire server was able to pick him up, because we gave him the "Silly" role, which is a rank we give to people who are only on the server to troll and cause issues. Anyone of any rank, even other silly's, can pick up a silly'd player. Dante is not an administrator on the server, and she never will be even if she was 18+, because of her learning disabilities and vulnerability to danger online. The only active staff in this entire video was me and Mikey who is an administrator. [CHARACTER LIMIT, LOOK IN COMMENTS FOR MY LAST 3 POINTS]
[CONTINUED] Something else I want to address is why I kept asking him what his real age was. No this was not me "trying to see if he's a minor so I can do things" or whatever sick conclusions everyone is jumping into. I honestly never realized how much I was asking that question until now, again I was very drunk that night. However, the main reason I kept asking that is because I knew he wasn't being honest with his age, and that not only made me feel a little uncomfortable, but I also really do not like dishonest people. I thought it was only fair if I'm being completely open and honest about myself so he should be too. 42 year olds don't play on the server, and I also didn't want to talk about the subject of [p] to someone who I thought might be a minor, though I felt like I had no choice but to explain myself when being accused of [p]. Also I didn't actually think he was 14, I was more suspecting like 17-19 because a lot of people who make edgy content like this are usually within that age range. I found his actions and choice of words rather immature, and I knew he wasn't 42, which is why I kept pestering him about it. I would like to make one more point. I find it completely disgusting and dehumanizing for so many people in the comment section to assume I'm a [p], when not only do yall have absolutely no proof or even a hint of me being one, but also completely ignored every single point I made in the video and clearly being uncomfortable and getting defensive when accused of one. I went into full detail about how we handle NSFW situations on the server and how we do our best to keep minors away from the server, and yall are ignoring it and twisting my words and making up accusations about me that aren't true, and you cannot prove any of it is real. The only thing I can really say now is PLEASE do NOT jump to conclusions about people when you have no proof of them doing anything wrong. The video even said not to go out of your way to harass anyone in this video, but I am already being personally attacked by multiple people who are claiming I am a "kid diddler" and saying this is a [p] community. Understand that these are VERY SERIOUS accusations, that should NOT be taken lightly. Joking about minors being groomed is NOT A JOKE, and you do NOT go around dropping accusations like that, unless you have full proof that the person you are accusing to be a [p] is indeed actually a [p]. I do not like [p]'s, and I am not a [p]. Please be a little more open minded and try to see things from my perspective as well. At the end of the day, this is nothing other than a troll video, and most of what Glass said was him just trying to get a reaction out of me. I hope everyone understands, I'm open to talking about this more either here or you can add me on Discord or Steam. I would be more than happy to talk about this into further detail, I have nothing to hide. As I said in the beginning of this video, you can ask me anything you want. Thank you, and have a nice day.
@@Gakkari Can you please explain how I'm making it worse? I genuinely do not understand what I'm doing wrong here, I'm clearly explaining how we handle NSFW situations and how we avoid minors getting involved with them. It seems like you are not even listening to anything I'm saying.
You’re disgusting. You’re more concerned about your player count than fostering a safe place for children by banning NSFW? You can’t have it both ways. You can try to justify it all you want by saying it’s the internet but you have made an active choice to allow children and 18+ content to coexisted.
@@fruityhorssse7335 this is disgusting. You’re more concerned with player count than fostering a safe space for children? Yet you claim you claim you were a victim? You can’t have it both ways. You can try to justify it by saying it’s the internet but you are actively choosing to allow children and 18+ content to coexist.
I recommend watching the whole video to understand how bizarre this server and the owner really are.
Edit: even if it may be difficult.
THE DAMAGE CONTROL THEYRE ATTEMPTING IN THE COMMENTS IS SO SAD 😢😢
i had to skip over some parts due to my epilepsy, but i'll try to watch the whole thing through.
bro you are doing a public service exposing these people
ive asked multiple people outside the gmod sphere and they all agree that you cannot allow nsfw content on a server EVEN IN PRIVATE and allow kids on at the same time. it's a recipe for disaster. coupled with the age verification right over their head, it makes it super easy for a predator to find their victim. you pick one or the other, allow nsfw content or allow kids. doesn't matter if you have a rule to keep it in private, you're still facilitating nsfw content on a server with minors present
hot take though(probably not that hot tbh lol), i think anyone who wants to allow kids into an adult sphere is a weirdo, it doesn't matter if a kid is "mature" or not (calling kids "mature for their age: is common for predators to say in order to coerce/groom them), keep the kids the fuck away, they're annoying, and you have to walk on eggshells to make sure you're not exposing them to things they need to not be exposed to
and then to have a kid as an admin, who as part of their job WILL be exposed to nsfw content, is a whole other nightmare
kids should go have fun with other kids so they can develop normally and not grow up to be a weirdo (or worse, groomed)
100% the owner is a predator himself, protecting predators in his community (best scenario, he may just be naive, he does sound young), or he is HARD coping in order to avoid the truth
I really hope the owner gets his head out of his ass and sees the bigger picture here (if he's not just making excuses in order to continue facilitating a predator's heaven)
@@Aflalafla Again, the minor is not an admin. Explained that in the video multiple times, but everyone's main defense is to talk over me and ignore all of my points, so not really sure what else can be said. This entire video is just taking things completely out of context and twisting it against me without actually knowing what's happening.
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omfg the real problem is he is like "well thats the first thing u think of??" when it actually HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, APPARENTLY.
Lol, exactly what I was thinking
you can hear his pants tighten as he asks if youre 14
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This make me laugh out loud and then have a coughing fit, well worth it though!
pants tighten and 14 should never be in the same sentence...
@@KevinVBC that its baaaad
@gingerdanny
Stop replying to fruity, they are literally one of these people if you look at their yt page. Mlp is a gravity well for “questionable people” that really want to hide this fact
"You see a minor, and the first thing you think of is sexual." Yeah I don't blame him for thinking they're in danger in a server with NSFW art and people walking around with [18+] in their name.
Where do you see NSFW art? 🤔
@@fruityhorssse7335 theres a reason sprays say "marked as nsfw: no"
and we've all seen bub's video aswell
@@gingerdanny Uh.. Because it's not NSFW? lol. What do you think "marked as nsfw: no" means?
@@fruityhorssse7335 HAHAHA why would you have to have that if there's not NSFW art
@@gingerdanny I don't think you're understanding my point here.. Let me explain.
There is SFW and NSFW.
SFW = safe for work. This is.. Safe for work.. Safe for kids.. When something is SFW that means it is NOT NSFW.
NSFW = not safe for work. This is graphic content like p*rn0graphy. When something is NSFW that means it is NOT SFW, that means children cannot view this.
So when an art spray marked as "No" for NSFW, that means it is not NSFW. That means it is SFW. The art spray in the video is SFW, it is safe for children. You can go back and look at it yourself here [24:37]. As you can see, there is nothing NSFW in this picture. Do you understand now?
During the interview, he was speaking that fast and without taking too many pauses, because he was super excited that there was a new person on the server. Towards the end, he starts speaking like that again because, and I think there's a term for it, he was desperately trying to defend himself and was feeling cornered. Like you almost found out what he really does on the server.
And you cannot have Not Safe For Work content while also welcoming minors into your community, and in the same breath, say that you're trying to protect minors. It's one or the other. Wtf was this.
Have you read the comments he put on this video lol
Minors should not be on this server. He says it's a safe space right after explaining that one of their community members had been groomed. Minors and NSFW content shouldn't be in the same place no matter the rules, that's just a recipe for disaster and the internet is full of examples...
That is a completely fair point. The reason I say it's a safe space though, is because we are one of few servers who actually go out of our way to get rid of child predators. This is a very tough and sensitive topic, but we are only doing what we think is best for everyone to keep an open and safe community. Separating minors from 18+ content on the same platform has so far worked out better than previous servers that either tried to ban minors and make it a p*rn server, or ban NSFW and make it entirely a "kid friendly" server. Please read the comment I left on this video if you want my full sober side of this, thank you.
- Sora Kite
@@fruityhorssse7335 Stop trying to portray yourself as "one of the only servers that moderates against this kind of action!" Every server on GMod does. Most have entire BANS on NSFW and ERP in their servers whatsoever. You are creating and fostering a community for predators. You cannot have a community with minors and nsfw elements. The risk of a someone breaching the restrictions and being groomed by the bad eggs in the community (which has evidently happened before) is far too extreme. Either start ID verifying people to join a private roleplay community so that you have some form of plausible deniability besides this sad scene we've witnessed today.. or just accept the fact that you harbor nonces.
@@gingerdanny Actually a server that harbors [p]'s would be one that is marketed as "kid friendly", because that attracts children and [p]'s into the same space.
Also I did mean more like one of the only pony/furry rp servers that moderates this, however even in the broader gmod community spectrum, there is a LOT of communities that have had issues with this and didn't moderate it at all, because they didn't care or see it as a problem. Like for example, remember when Facepunch had to step in and ban the r@p3 swep that was being used on random people as well as children? How about all those "kid friendly" servers that have pr*st!tute as a job for children to play? Yeah I don't think you're speaking much from experience here. You are just speaking from pure emotions and jumping to conclusions about me and my community, despite knowing nothing about it other than a youtuber trolling me and putting words in my mouth. You even came on my profile to tell everyone that I "diddle kids", which you know is not true and have no proof of it.
@@fruityhorssse7335 mate you diddle kids you wouldnt be so upset if it werent true
either way ur server is ass banning everyone "kiwi"@@fruityhorssse7335
dude ive been waiting for you to troll mlp severs these severs are like the filth of gmod
Ain't that the truth
any grown person who owns a gmod mlp rp server whos letting minors in when 90% of the people in there have "18+" in their name is such a massive red flag lol☠️☠️
i hate the owners forced accent he sounds a little like thewhitebowser at times
thawhitebowsuhh
ill be honest bossman i dont hear any of dawhitebowsuhh
thewhitebowser is a predator
bro literally just admitted in his rant to there being pedophiles on the server
thats crazy
so hes not protecting minors hes actively putting them in a dangerous situation
You are absolutely correct. This is also a true fact that Sora is sweeping under the rug, which is that they had a 16 year old in staff. And if you think I'm a Schizo "which Sora is falsely labeling me as" then you may want to do their research since that one staff member was named Lee Cake. How I know that is because I was there in 2022, and they were trial mod first and then promoted to mod later. So pretty much that Sora is one big creep for having a MINOR in staff.
Literally that staff members aren't only supposed to babysit rule breakers but they also have to monitor NSFW and illegal content "discord and in game", kind of sounds like enabling people who are 17 and under to see things that they're not supposed to see until their 18th birthday.
Omfg he's actively how? It's a game you idiot. Don't support a thing but labeling people and assuming is bs.
Why it's such a big deal to youbso wierd.
Their fuking bronys idiot they bin a thing..
sora got them edp vibes
What do u expect from a owner of a brony server lol
Yeeep
Hello Zerky
Someone who isn't actually a danger to children wouldn't go on for this long defending himself, muting you to try and force you to listen to what he has to say in desperation that you'll listen to what he has to say, it comes off like an insecurity, like he is he doing something that he shouldn't and feels called out. The whole song and dance he does where he tries to flip the situation onto you and pretend he's concerned about the safety of minors is really funny to me, it's like he lacks self awareness of why someone would make the assumptions simply by looking at the server and it's content and the players on it.
I like Garry Newman and Facepunch but they are so incompetent when it comes to moderating the servers that exist on their game, to the point where servers like this and the 1942 servers exist, it's so cringe.
I agree with facepunches hands off approach to moderation, it allows for freedom of expression and creation. This is just one of those cases where it goes bad. 1942 was cool to me, until they were just regular uptight gmod roleplayers then I was sorely dissapointed
I had to defend myself because he wasn't even letting me talk, and this is a very sensitive not to mention, extremely serious discussion. [P] rumors are nothing to take lightly, and I feel like I have every right to defend my community as well as myself, when we are not doing anything wrong.
Also Facepunch does still moderate their servers. Just a few months ago, they completely blacklisted a server because it was strictly 18+ and it was a complete mess.
My thoughts exactly
@@fruityhorssse7335 If you really are the owner of the server in this video, you need help. It is still strange that you allow a minor onto the server let alone make him an admin, also what is the purpose of an "18+" thing on your name tag if your server is to be a safe space for all ages? Having an 18+ tag kind of implies that there is NSFW things happening hence the need for the tag existing. And your "defending" of yourself is again strange, because you went to the extent of muting the guy calling you out and then doing this weird act of "you're thinking of minors doing sexual stuff, you're making me feel weird" when you know damn well why he would think that when taking a first glance at your server and the content on it.
@@fruityhorssse7335 Damn, the owner
Bruh Iost my vocals right when he said “how old are u”. I’d would’ve dab out if he said that to me ongod
52:06 brother was devastated that you didnt listen to him yapping😭😭😭😭
the first guy in the right top corner, you can see his playtime JUST on the server and he's played on THIS ONE SERVER for 73 weeks. THATS 12408 HOURS HOLY FUCK
People don't believe in playing different games since Gmod is the only illegal drug to them.
Glad I moved on from Gmod and found better games to play.
This is a diff level of obsession. Thats 12k fucking hours on A SINGLE SERVER@@madden8021
@@ragoon7798 Yeeeeep.
That Sora Kite was in a Dacoobers video from 3 years ago.
Dacoobers is a top tier gmod TH-camr
"Did you fight in the Korean war?"
Wtf? Does he mean the Vietnam War? 🤣
The Korean war was a real war it happened in 1950 through 1953
I know and we won 🚬
Well hello there, I'm literally a victim to Sora and Ironstone's Public Enemy #1. This isn't an "underage" thing for myself (because I was 25 when I joined in October of 2021 till my unfair banishment in mid 2022) since this is more of being bullied, harassed, manipulated, coerced, degraded. (and you get the point, etc.)
October 2021: I joined Ironstone somewhere around before Halloween and things were fine until May of 2022
Somewhere around Late 2021 or early 2022: I was invited to join a small and upcoming DarkRP Server and they eventually got me on staff (this will come in later of how things got worse)
Early to May of 2022: I had a server romantic relationship with one of Ironstones Staff Members which their name was Lavender (used to be named Ivy Rain but changed to Lavender then Chaos,) we were server dating, but one night is where the both of us had an ERP Session. I still remember that night since a user who is named Azazel Silvertongue, showed up to the house and said, "You two living together?" and I responded with "Yes" where he did reply with "May I come in?" and I allowed it, all of us went to the basement and watched some TH-cam videos till he had to leave, Lavender and I got to the real Fun, but when it was over that they said "You still want to date me?" and "Do you still love me?" I didn't know how to respond and then things went down hill with Lavender just snapping by saying in quote "I was recently broken up by someone else and you just made it worse" to which Lavender just got up and leave and then things got worse as time went on that lead to a stupid drama over the ERP.
Mid 2022: Sure that continued as the months went on as I kept on complaining about it to anyone else, this also resulted in getting someone to spy for me (regretful decision on my end) since they came straight to me in that upcoming DarkRP Server named at the time "Big and Original," but then one night that I got pulled into a sham admin sit where it had Sora and Lavender (now known as Chaos) and they berated, "lectured," and falsely accusing me of the following (Harassment, Degradation of Chaos' Mental Health, and somehow breaking the server rules by showing disrespect to Sora's Cult of Personality,) they warned me to keep my yap shut about it and I did just that and was let go.
Rest of 2022: Things got even worse as I continue complaining again and again is where the Server Owner for B&O (who I was working along side with who is named Psycho Turtle/Fluff/Zedex) literally told me to quit it in an annoyed coerced tone to "apologize" to the people that I kept on complaining it to and screenshot my apologies to others straight toward him or else be booted out of the staff team and I followed through with it, we had a "keep quiet and stay neutral" embargo policy at the time of being told to do so, later on that the B&O Server owner removed that embargo policy and encouraged me to complain about it once more.
Of course they did a 180 and falsely believed that I made an Alt account to join Ironstone and call for a worthless server war (which I have no idea what a Server War is and that I'm perma banned from in game and their Discord Server) from someone using the B&O Discord Servers Modmail Bot to get in contact with Psycho and he came in REALLY angry within my DM's while I was on Roblox playing Cabin Crew Simulator and chilling in a friends Discord VC listening to some Music and I got booted from the staff team for NO REASON, I know that I wouldn't stoop THAT low in making alt accounts and wanting a so-called "Server War," since someone was impersonating me either on Steam or Discord or maybe made doctored/photoshopped screenshots to look like I said such horrible things. Airy (another fellow that plays on Ironstone) also followed suit for the same reason and falsely accused ME of doing it (which again, I didn't even do) and tried to explain it but didn't believed me and decided to block me entirely
I do remember before being booted out was another thing that got me falsely accused of things that I didn't even do was influenced (or well, Coerced) people to do things like telling a person named Kizzi to leave Gmod entirely which isn't even true at all, then another was when I was in the B&O Discord Server VC with the Owners Girlfriend named Annette (formally known as Scarlet Heart,) she was streaming the Spyro Trilogy and we invited her friend Mindkiller to join us, he politely declined for "Reasons" and we just continued on our own, she later got bored of streaming and asked "do you got anything to stream?" I sadly said no, then she said "I'm heading off to bed, you have a good night" and I said the same for her to have a good night as well and we both left the VC, of course, she lied and went to Ironstone to where later she lost her marbles and DMed me about Mindkiller leaking B&O Staff Chats to Ironstone Staff and then almost decided to well, (you imagine her reaction because of TH-cam's ToS/Guideline Policies) while I was asleep. I later awaken somewhere around Lunch before Early Dinner to read about what happened and decided to talk to Mindkiller in his DM's which he didn't respond and he was booted from staff for doing that.
Mid to late 2022 and early 2023: After being booted is where everyone jumped on the hate train against me and put false accusation after false accusation like the following (Hostile, Liar, Manipulative, Harasser, Predator, Forced Influencer, etc)
I caught Annette lying that she said and in quote "I never told Madden to off himself" on someone's Twitch Stream when she actually did in my DM's to "Jump off the nearest bridge," they then proceeded to put my I.P Address on the B&O Staff Chat "Then renamed to the Oasis Project" because of the false harassment accusation which means they now know where I live (Privacy invasive ain't it?) all because that I wanted to check to see if I was given the old ban screen message but was shadow banned which means that I can still join normally and walk around, but not do anything at all. Annette even went as far as to use the excuse claim that it was an alt, but it actually backfired since the so called "Steam ID" she put out leads straight back to me instead of some alt account which would've had some different Steam ID on the URL instead of my Custom Steam Link.
I also got falsely accused of ruining B&O/Oasis Project's chance at getting a player base when in reality that we couldn't find a way to advertise the server WITHOUT trying to poach players, that's what killed the server since the ERP Drama had NOTHING to do with it.
The Predator thing is all a lie since Sora is making that up by falsely accusing ME for knowing about the user Lee Cake in being a staff member and that I "Like her romantically" when seriously, that lie is all in Sora's head when I was just bringing up another problem with Ironstone in allowing minors into Staff when Sora had said in quote "We don't allow minors into staff," when that's apart of Ironstones history and Sora was apart of the vote and a Super Admin at the time but still, that really doesn't cut the actions for Ironstone doing such a horrible act after all and will forever be apart of their own history. I had NOTHING to do with it nor will I EVER do such a horrible act, my father would really disown me since he worked as law enforcement for YEARS until his retirement, I look up to him and never want to ruin his trust in me being a law abiding citizen.
Epilogue: Here we are, two years later and it's finally coming to an end with Ironstone falling apart and people leaving just by noticing how Sora is showing their true colors as time goes on, I got insulted by Sora on X "Formally Twitter" when all I did was just welcoming them to Twitter/X, the tweet/post is no longer available, but I kept it archived at all cost, I made a ban appeal and Sora is still as hostile as ever, but now that people are seeing Sora for who they really are as an unprofessional owner that's manipulative, hostile, liar, harasser, predator, and schizophrenic, is where their downfall is happening and as to where everybody can move on from the Ironstone server for their own sake of peace "including myself."
Now you know what happened to me and how I was wrongfully treated like some kind of monster that is "in the wrong" and "The World doesn't revolve around me" when it's the opposite. There is no "World Revolve" thing and that the people who treated me wrong are the people who are in the wrong. Sure I made the two mistakes of doing an ERP and having someone spy for me but I learned to never do THAT since then, as for the false accusations like being (hostile, manipulative, mentally abusive, alt account maker, server destroyer, harasser, etc) isn't and will NEVER be true at ALL.
Now if you excuse me that I got other things to do like play other games and even Tower Unite.
Is the ironstone server still up?
So youre saying you ehit it and equit it? And were then harassed by your scorned lover? 😭
@@donatorimagine It no longer is up and considered forever closed, it was announced on their forums and discord after Sora finally realized the error of their ways and decided to move on from "PonyRP"
@@Prosper_Dean Well, that ERP and later having someone spy for me on the next person they moved onto were mistakes and were the only mistakes, idk where the OTHER people (Now they hang out on Trottingham and Diverge Fallout Equestria) got their so-called "Accusations/Claims" on the other stuff I've mentioned since besides the regretful ERP and spying incident that I didn't do *ANYTHING* else but complain after complain about how I was later getting treated like crap.
54:44 "theres other games that kids play that adults also play, like fortnite, call of duty"
neither of those games allow for ANY amount of nsfw content. You can't even have cartoon boobs in your emblem, you'll get banned. fucking wild
Sora doesn't even play other games since Gmod is his only and lonely addiction, really sad ain't it?
@@madden8021 yeah either you allow nsfw content and dont allow minors, or your allow minors but dont allow nsfw content.
its mutually exclusive, the moment you try and do both is the moment you are exposing minors to nsfw content. it will happen.
it'll happen even if you do completely ban minors, because kids lie about their age all the time, but at least you're not fostering an environment for children to be exploited, because you're still removing the minors as you find them
@@Aflalafla Sora did say that in the video which got deleted "later reuploaded to Patreon" that he banned anyone who are 17 and under "aka Minors" but then Sora removed their comment after awhile of it being there. So I guess that it became official then and now everybody has to hand over their ID's to be "checked" if one is 18 or not, even though it's never a good idea to hand someone you don't know over the internet your ID like Government issued, Drivers License, or whatever as it sets a breach of Privacy and I think a Violation of Discord's ToS/Guidelines since that's their only form of communication.
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Do you make the papers or just print them?
w for protecting the epileptic.
it's disturbing how this server still exists lol
Ikr, very disturbing.
I tried to watch this but this had too much brain damage in it. I'm sorry you had to go through this.
52:36 bro has never met a troll of your stature
Damn, that one person laughing like muttley.
Found you from Zimery's video of this! :D
concern of minors safety = being a ped, what great logic gmod admin!
You know it's bad when a transbian thinks something's weird 😂
the owner of that server spent 50 minutes yapping in the video, just to hop out of nowhere and yap in the comments, its embarassing lmao
Ikr, it ain't putting Sora in the right to talk while looking like he's "the savior of PonyRP" when he's in the wrong and being pro CP While also suffering from Schizophrenia.
Literally the map that has the mafia people on it, pretty sure they just stole the map
It's a public map lol it was just edited a bit
Ayo I smoke to much and you bugz bunnied the shit outta that guy,
"duplexes? What maps do you play that have duplexes?"
"Almost all of them"
"Well..can you like..give an example? Or.."
"Hey is this time square??"
😂😂😂😂
😂😂
MGSV skullface speech
💀💀💀
he never stops talking holy shit
Check out sora's own post and the others he's infected in peoples replies. He doesn't stop yapping which is giving everybody headaches to his schizophrenic paragraphs and made up lies.
that kid is 100% a grown man with a voice changer.
im like 5 minutes in and the server feels very strangely similar to fnaf rp
har har ha har har har har har har
The person laughing at your toll 😂
thank you for stopping it i have epilepsy and you probably just saved me a seizure, i actually appreciate the thoughtfulness. as well, most of the pony community is chill but they be lettin kids in and stuff on this server. alot of the ppl i know are in the fandom and aren't pieces of shit
I personally don't like it when people shake players around like that, I feel like there does need to be more awareness for epileptic people. Thank you for your honesty and being open minded.
@fruityhorssse7335 of course, living with some pony folks as we speak and yeah thats absolutely fair as well. just personally for me i think it could have been handed differently, also minors in adult spaces are always a yike imo
@@yurilover87 Honestly, I agree. It's done nothing but cause issues for us. The funny thing is though, it's caused more issues with people like Glass and in the comment sections calling us [p]'s way more than we've had actual issues with [p] happening on the server. It's an unfortunate reality, but the last 18+ server got taken down because it was an NSFW nightmare and it didn't stop minors from getting on. So at some point we just gotta pick a middle ground. This will definitely be a discussion for our next staff meeting though, I am always looking for ways to make this community safer.
No middle ground needed, if you want nsfw shit in your life you can find it somewhere other than garrys mod. Remove the nsfw content from the server, it is disgusting and weird.
I honestly thought some of the stuff I did leave in was still a bit too much, I have had family with epilepsy so its a touchy subject and I respect those with it and would hate to be the reason a seizure occurred.
glass i'm going to be so fr, i've been binging all your stuff and other gmod trollers, and it's Actually so good. keep it up brotha :D
It is surprising that they didn't shame you for "being 42" despite being the ones playing a MLP server
If you watched the video, we kinda did. But obviously he's not 42 years old.
@@fruityhorssse7335 Oh hell nah, are you a part of this shit?
@@dylangotshall2693that's the creepy ass owner bro
@@Deadly7K 💀
this is my new favourite channel. pppppppppppp
I knew Sora, but as a "super admin" i didn't know they were the owner or got transfered ownership lmao.
Sora emotionally Manipulated Dexter to have Ownership since Dex originally wanted to shutdown Ironstone
the person wheezing is funny AF LOL
dang my boy is up early killing it!
dude i stumbled on you recently and youre super funny man, keep it up
8am banger, let’s go!
its banger season
that dante person was so cringe wtf
give me my props back NOW
This is the most disturbing thing on gmod imo
I'm surprised that Facepunch ain't really looking into it more, neither will Hasbro stand up and finally double down in protecting the MLP IP and Brand
Lmao watching zimerys video on this server and the way he acted with him then seeing glass video 😂mans stay creeping
How long does it take for you to make some damn pizza rolls
10 minutes
very weird people
what the freak
also dont you think that minors can just click "yeah im 18+" because there totally arent minors that do that....
Love ya glass man hope you get better soon
Gmod .."we need ro crack down on the (OBVIOUSLY NOT OK) shit on 1942 rp"
Everyone.. "yeah thats probably a good idea..hey what about that cringe/creepy pony rp thing over there 👉?"
Gmod.."...................🤷"
"I have a daughter now so I have to think about the world I'm putting them into." *Bans the Nazi servers, keeps the pedo servers*
What did Garry Newman mean by this?
@@gingerdanny Probably cause a server that heavily restricts NSFW content doesn't make it a [p] server lol gotta also ask why Facepunch took down other servers, including an 18+ one very recently but had no problem with Ironstone. I guess the world will never know...
its crazy that the dude tried to say youre under 20 and then they all started torturing you until you told them your age
do you think they do this to every minor
grooming machine
i would play on servers like this back in like 2014 or something, i was about 13 or 14 years old, and of course i liked mlp, it's targeted towards children like me at the time. I got Gmod when i was younger, cuz i saw youtubers play it, and i wanted to enjoy the game myself. sadly, my parents are not the greatest at moderating their own children, but i came across so many pedos playing mlp gmod its fucking insane, i got groomed a lot by servers like this, and also those cinema ones aswell.
but this server is extremely fucking weird, the owner is NOT mature. He had to mute you he let his lil "friendship" gang fucking turn and toss you around like a fuckn toy. yeah they are so fuckn mature, you are setting a GREAT example for that minor that i've seen in the entire fucking video. Good job!👍
pony rp players want kids in there basement chained up
This just looks like a victim perpetuating the cycle. I'm not defending bro, but think for a moment. This guy says off the rip that he's 22 and has been doing this for 10 years. That means he started at 12, an age just as impressionable as the audiences he's keeping around him. I don't play Gmod, but I can tell the differences between close-knit groups and organized safe spaces, this is just a bunch of strangers from across the globe looking to get their rocks off however they see fit. If he had a sound mind, any adult-themed things would be in a private server with the proper background checks, so there wouldn't be any risky business for the younger audiences in the first place. Whether conscious or not, he's making a decision to introduce these things to a younger people, and whether or not he sees it as one, an attempt to normalize what is not deemed normal for the age ranges the server supposedly caters to. Whether or not he's still up and running, only God knows, but I'm hoping for the day these people decide to take accountability for what they allowed to happen, and recognize the depths of their disgusting actions (or lack thereof in preventative measures). What's even further fascinating, is that he's the "only original staff left", who then became the owner. All the old staff either "resigned, or got fed up with drama". So either these staff members got so sick of seeing this shit go on, or they had something deeper to do with the server's history, and ran for the hills. There was never any "joining at the wrong time" because you saw through these people like, well, Glass. 70 and some odd weeks is enough said, and to hold back all of that sour information about other people for the last minute is definitely a way of projecting the blame to save some skin in the situation. If you're running 18+ tags in a public place like that, saying you have those restrictions to keep the youngins safe, you've already fucked up, astronomically. To put forward any reasoning in these comments, such as, "People lie all the time about their ages", and "removing all risky content and promoting kid friendly spaces entices these types of people", it isn't bullshit, moreover, it's a reason to acquire a sense of responsibility, and take accountability for the mess that's been made, all while perhaps accepting the fact that he was never fit to run an establishment of this kind (quite like a majority of these folks that I've seen out there, unfit for their positions they hold). I've seen the replies he's made, and they're nothing short of disgraceful for the eyes. 2 years older than me, and can't even hold up his end of an argument without silencing the other person to spew his incoherent nonsense, let alone facing his own words being put on display, trying to contradict everything that's already been said. I don't even see this as a trolling video, this is just calling it as we see it. Being knowledgeable of past incidents, and claiming that it's "safe for kids, despite the adult aspects" is a false narrative being pushed by the owner, thus perpetuating the cycle. Recognize the pattern, and put it to an end. There is no middle ground between a private server for adults and a public safe space for kids. There is no middle ground, period. Being a fence sitter makes him look inconsistent; It nullifies any argument he puts forward, and obscures what the true intentions of the place are, when he isn't receiving impromptu interviews, but I think we all know better. Yeah, you can go and do weird shit in private, behind closed doors, but when a minor walks through that open door, the one that this guy hypothetically wants ripped off its hinges. When he does just that, tears the door off its hinges, they (the children) are being subjected to a whole lotta shit they shouldn't see at their age. It's unacceptable, and it must end. Much to our own dismay, there's a number of places like this one, and the people running them; They're all carbon copies, no matter where you find them. I don't encourage hit pieces, per se, but this was everything, everywhere all at once, and puts a spotlight on the shit that just ain't right in our world. I strolled in on this channel only recently, and the trolling content is peak, but this is an exquisite work. It's not putting words in his mouth if he basically started out by asking "tits or ass", he just refuses to accept the predicament he's placed himself in, as many of these people live in consistent denial of their actions.
Anyone who actually played pony rp before ironstone knows how bad it used to be. There never were restrictions on nsfw or anyone banning groomers at all it happened in the open and nobody said anything. Sora is barely even an adult and has only been owner of Ironstone for a year and has already single handedly done more for the safety of the pony community than anyone else in the entire history of pony rp. There is always more they can do to upgrade security, but it makes me mad that real predators are always swept under the rug while the 1 server that tries to moderate nsfw and protect minors is being attacked and owner is called a "pdf file" for no reason! This is wrong leave them alone!!
Hes 21, as he said in the interview
@@ChickenDeek Idk why my comment was removed but why dont you go to ponyscape and interview the owners there instead? They recently unbanned a few PDF files and have no rules against nsfw or minors. They have a long history of allowing predators on the server and sweeping it under the rug, everyone on pony rp knows this which is why they play ironstone instead.
At least look up "ponyscape" on youtube or watch one of bub games videos he trolls on there multiple times it is very nsfw and very unfiltered. Your attacking the wrong server your not actually seeing the bad part of pony rp yet
yeah buddy you definetly play on the server every day..
Don't prey on minors. I swear the bar is in Hell.
how do you even find servers like these
Bean Battles pfp. Based
what is sora kite on about
Sora's just being a Schizo and doesn't know what he's talking about while smoking his Marijuana Bong.
u are the best glass
Loooollz hippo crit.
bro
just wtf
Love your content man
I respect the first into another comment, thank you.
funny video
Let’s gooooooo get em boi
hello window man
WHAT UP FAMILY
this guy is reaching harder than mj did for those dunks bro
this is crazy
dude thinks hes doing the server a justice by keeping nsfw content out of public to protect minors, but doesnt see a problem letting children be on a server that allows nsfw content, or even further have an admin that is a minor, and DUE TO HIM BEING AN ADMIN he WILL be exposed to NSFW content
but they dont care about that because it's all just excuses to deflect from what's really going on. they think theyre slick but anyone with a functioning frontal lobe can tell whats going on
and the fact they have the 18+ tags so the predators know who the minors are just from a glance... gross
Already explained in the video that the minor isn't an admin. We don't allow minors on the staff team. The only reason they were able to pick him up, is because he got the silly rank which allows anyone to pick him up and toy with him, something that was also shown in the video.
@@fruityhorssse7335 "We don't allow minors on the staff team" Remember that quote since Lee Cake was 16 when they were staff and YOU are owner, isn't that scary and concerning to hide it under the rug while letting a minor to be ON the staff team? Admit it Sora, You can't hide the truth.
Why’s he jump like a pony havin the kids pick up ur player model n bite em lol… doesn’t bode well for him
Well, it's called a "silly role" which I would actually call it the "We hate Minges/trolls role so #### you" which means that everyone can use their physguns and drag you around like a ragdoll until you either get annoyed of it and leave or rejoin and they continue doing it.
Kind of very stupid if you ask me
this is why furries dont like pony kid stuff
Yeah they just like kids
Um how is that server still up got banned for a year for vdm 🚬
That server is indeed gone. My guess is that Sora finally has no more funds to keep the server and had to cancel it from its continuation, someone else bought the server that was once his and turned it to a kaiserreich rp server.
As for Sora themselves, they have private their steam profile which means that they're finally no longer a threat and "hopefully" left the internet to seek medical and professional help.
@@madden8021 good and thank you for the update 😁
@@zoezoehill7089 No problem
23:28 ocean man??!??!
Lead me to the land
bruh
dam best troller :D
i hope ur nose gets better as swell as mine
naaaah, the owner is 22???????
real pro here
ss13/ss14
Ur my fav troll😸🖤
The Server and Owner looks cool and chill, I should try it out.
Yikes
You are a sad, strange little man.
u gotta flash text longer
U gotta read faster
:(
idk anything about this server but it didn't feel right to just turn it on them like that
I would read the comments before making a claim like this lol
GOOD
hi glass
Hello
try a server im in call knab cinima server barely any people us it cus of all the drama that went down
I have a video coming out on swamp cinema, is that server similar?
@GlassWindowGames Want a funny anecdote for that server? I used to be an admin on it, and at one point, I had a loong 2 hour argument with the owner about how we shouldn’t be allowing videos of puppies being drowned by being thrown into rivers. Dude was weirdly insistant about leaving that type of content allowed. Just really weird vibes from him all around. Swamp cinema hides alot of dark secrets. My heart knows it.
Oh yeah and the owner openly jerks off to MLP lol.
Was an admin on swamp and had a 2 hour argument with the owner about how we shoild not allow vids of ppl drowning puppies lol. He was weirdly insistant on allowing them. Theres alot of weird hidden shit in swamp.
Oh yeah and the owner openly strokes it to mlp rule 34. You're welcome for that info.
I used to play on knab, they deserve the bad reputation! The developer was exposed for doing erp with a minor and the staff defended them. And on horserp they openly defended PDF-filia and the staff team was mix of minors and adults with PDF accusations and openly did nsfw with children. Why did horserp or knab not get this attention?
@@ChickenDeekSwamp used to be a very unhinged, unrestricted server.
I feel bad for the owner i dont think he means any harm he just kinda getting fucked with but other pony servers letting grown men groom children all the time so at least they have some level of security
at the end of the day only he knows whats truly going on
Damn early gang?
Is that laugh at 57:15 made me wanna jump out my window 😒
Not first. easy!
Yes you are!
Hiccups? 0:06
Yes
@@ChickenDeek Hot
tf@@TobyCareya
ok so like i saw this and i think i lost a few brain cells, i didn't watch like more then 5 minutes of the video but people have been yap maxing about it, I'm actually a part of the community as well but im not here to write a wall of text dawg idgaf. Im just gonna put a disclaimer that i dont actually know that much about what the videos about but i have a general idea i think idk LOL, im not reading the 80 paragraph comment or watching the video so i dont have a clue... but like id be lying if i saw these community weren't like radioactive magnets attracting people who are down with a certain kind of "syndrome" and people whose motivations are a little questionable. But like in the long run the server is not that bad, im not saying any of you should play on it unless you either want to argue with people with the brain capacity of myself or for some strange reason have an a- tizm hyperfixation to the stupidest shit you can find like me. But in the servers defense its actually not that bad, im not saying you should understand it because i cant wrap my head around it, id be lying if i said i didnt have fun but i also dont think its even possible to have a conversation with 60% of the playerbase. The most awful thing that normally happens is someone is really braindead and another braindead person argues with them, [p] isnt really a staple of the server. I couldnt tell you why the owner tried to cover so hard because no, its not a good look. But there are bad people in every community who need to be taken care of. The only reason i defend the server is because i know its like the one in every 10 server you find where the staff and players arent consistently trying to get a child grooming streak. Bad people pop up but apparently there is some sort of divine intervention because they always get banned, which is not something i can say about many other gmod servers, especially the pony ones 🤯. Theres this one server called ponyscape that died because the owner protected {p} and enabled their behavior, i would consider this a great example of what the server could be if the staff didnt give a shit. But to the surprise of myself and im sure many of you, the staff actually try there best to stop any of that stuff before it gets to far. its very rare in these communitys that the server isnt run by an ego driven soon to be jared from subway. So id like to give credit where its due and say i cant justifiably lie and say they dont give a shit, because they do. I just think the entire situation is stupid funny and wanted to give my opinion, im honestly pretty neutral on the situation so you can either flame me and call me a brony {r}tard child lover and be as equally brain dead as the people you make fun of or just read the shit i say and laugh at it and move on, its dealers choice. Most of the times its just a troll who enjoys being an asshole which is fine with me lmao, and a server member playing cat and mouse, i think at the end of the day arguing over something like this is stpupid because its the internet and people just wanna laugh at it. But i for some reason felt inclined to say something since apparently everyone is getting their rocks off by posting long ass arguments making this seem like its a ceremony to see who can yap the most. I get that sora was making a probably valid point and im not shitting on him but generally speaking it dosent look good to argue in the youtube comments of people who clicked on a video to laugh at what you are. I just wanted to kind of point out that he isnt nessesarily wrong on a lot of what he saids (probably i didnt finish reading the comment or video 😴) and i can justifiably see why he felt inclined to try and explain his perspective. but at the end of the day its litterally youtube comments on a gmod video so you are quite likely hard pressed to find anyone who actually gives a shit.
in short i have never played on the server and said "Boy i cant wait to groom some children with my best buds" like its surprisingly something you never see. But like i said some of the people who play on the server are really freaking "special" (id say the a word if youtube wouldnt delete my comment) so clearly they dont understand what being normal is, but ive played on many gmod servers and ive seen this shit a lot so i think its just something that generally applies to most of the servers that exitst, the only difference is because of this servers nature it inherently more cringey and there are way more people who have disabilitys LOL, im not saying the server isnt strange or anything, im just saying its not a child grooming sandbox. I have spoke to the valley animations freak in the past and hes been a consistent joke in my friend group, i was disgusted to learn he was a child lover but its not something that happens often, i consider everyone on the server to be reasonably slow in terms of brain function but even he surpised me, he has got to be missing 2 chromosomes (one less then everyone else) because hes definitely a step above the rest of his competition.
also im not like... saying the server is perfect cause i know some of these people are fucked up, like dont take me out of context here, some of these people are freaky as hell, im just saying grooming children is not something i often see on their to do lists
buddy said im not about to drop a wall of text then droppped a wall of text, not reading that champ.
@@ChickenDeekyes sir sorry sir
@@ChickenDeek I wouldn't trust Snowby due to him having a history of using Pac3 Stealing Scripts, Harassing other players, Ban Evading with alt accounts and overall just being an unhinged minge.
Snowby is also one of Sora's "inner circle of friends" which does give signs of suspicious activates he does behind the scenes within Sora's "inner circle." Snowby even has a buddy named Scribbles who does just about the same thing as he does which is totally unhinged as well. Kind of messed up and uncivil if you ask me Glass
Btw Snowby, Telling me that the 'World doesn't Revolve around me" isn't a valid reason since let's literally use this "World doesn't revolve" in a different approach of tone that IS valid and that's Sora since the World doesn't revolve around Sora and his/her little "inner circle of friends" since people are leaving Ironstone for that so called Fallout Equestria Server which is called in quote "Diverge Fallout Equestria." I hope that some of the current staff in Ironstone would finally speak out against Sora without fear of being removed "aka FIRED" and replaced by someone else. Everything that we know about Sora and Ironstone are slipping through the cracks as time moves on and it literally makes the userbase want to leave said server for another one or even another game entirely.
Let's treat the cracks, leaks, evidence, etc like the end of the Cold War once the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain fell since then the West learned everything about what East Germany "and later Eastern Europe" committed with Crimes against Humanity which overturn those nations bad past and given another chance at a new life, some nations ceased to exist and some split up after the cold war which seems similar to what Ironstone is going through right now, people are knowing the truth with how Scummy Sora's Unhinged behavior is in showing their true colors and moving away from the server all together as numbers fall, people leave, and users lose trust on a "cult of personality" leader (which Ironstone is a scam cult btw)
Sora will be dried up in money and won't be able to keep the server running sooner or later if nobody even "donates" to his scam of a server and would have to shut down the server.
But hey, live in "Sora's World" and "Inner Circle" in the meantime Snowby since I'm in a better place which is Tower Unite and I'm finally at peace and no longer need to deal with Toxicity and Drama which is in fact, GMOD
I will put this out there before I end my transmission and that and I will repeat it in quote "The World Doesn't Revolve Around Sora and his/her inner circle of friends"
Farewell Snowby
"End Transmission"
i like this server
So you must be a predator too? 😂
We can tell
You are such a sad, strange little man for admitting to liking Ironstone.
hes tright.../.
huh?
@@ChickenDeek goood job keeeps eyes on d reerecereeeps 9m creepij
@@ChickenDeek i like yoyurbiodeos
Take your meds.
@@ChickenDeek Brain damage
this is bullshit
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Howdy folks Co-owner here wanted to make a big shout out to sora for making a really lengthy essay in the comments section ily for that lol.
but on a more serious note I wanted to address some things that were glossed over or misunderstood . obviously this is a troll video we're pretty used to it but alot of the comments are quick to point out the concerns of minors on a adult server and accusations of ped0phillia
coming from years of experience in the brony/furry fandoms I cannot deny the community is highly sexual and adult oriented. however compared to servers today, pony darkrp of the past was highly ridden with actual groomers, which was encouraged by terrible moderation and lack of security. Hell there was a mlp fallout centric server recently that encouraged public slave/r@pe rp with nothing to stop minors from accessing, which member of my community were quick to report and take down. My staff and community take things like that very seriously, seeing as I helped write all our nsfw rules and conducted the investigation against the groomer sora had mentioned. In all honestly I have been advocating to highly restrict 18 plus content on our server for years and its had some vast improvements (take a look at bubs games video on us for an example how bad it used to be) the issue with this as what I've stated earlier in my comment as well as soras , is this community is mostly adult and accustomed to nsfw. Out right banning that would basically wipe the player base , we had major backlash the moment we even made stricter nsfw rules. Its basically too difficult to just remove and think its not going to happen anyway , which is why we implemented our 18 plus role and made everything private.
so then if we cant ensure the removal of all nsfw content, then why not ban minors? that there lies another issue is actually knowing whos a minor. If we wanted even stricter rules that barred minors from joining that would require some level of privacy breaching , either collecting data from users to know their exact birthdate (which we already do in our discord) or going as far as requiring photo copies of legal government IDs. I've been in VRchat groups that had that same level of restrictions and that still failed as its pretty easy to make fake ids or lie about age. basically what I'm saying is, its actually alot more complicated than what everyone is saying to just ban minors, knowing that whatever we do they can still find their way onto the server. same goes for banning nsfw, those people will still find their way in. The only thing that can be done here is better moderation and more diligent admins who watch for these things. with each video like this that comes out, know that we take notice and will try to improve these issues presented. but also know coming into these videos so narrow minded, without doing research and throwing accusations doesn't help anyone or solve any of the problems that come with my community and my server or pony darkrp as a whole.
I also encourage people to come on our server not to troll, but to do your own research and come to your own conclusions without some content creators funny trolling video. there have been plenty of people who joined and commended our mod team and friendly relaxed nature. There's plenty of people including some on our staff who aren't even furry/bronies who want to contribute to our server. As well as take a look at my man soras comment again regarding the minor in question. it saddens me as I've suggested to ban them when the grooming situation happened , but it was agreed that it wasnt appropriate since this was a unnecessary reaction to something that 1) the minor had no control over and would feel guilty for their actions which we dont want to encourage , and we feared shed go back to said groomer and 2) banning the minor wouldn't solve the groomers hiding in our community, rather we should target those people as they are not welcome here at all and want to become more vigilant to those behaviors . we want this to be a safe community for everyone as much as possible and if anyone has suggestions to make it even more safe , we'll always listen as long as its constructive and thoughtful not just "haha your a brony that means your a ped0". Anyways Dawny out
I'm sure someone cared for you to be as argumentative as possible
Not reading that but damn I even got the co-owner commenting. You wanna get the co-co-owner on the case too or what?
Dude... At least if you required ID verification you'd be able to claim you're doing more than.. whatever this is.. cause this clearly isn't your best. I've been in SFW furry communities before, this ain't it. Take a hard stance on 18+ content and ERP, either by banning it or enacting tighter restrictions to keep minors out of the server altogether.
Also the fact that you claim normal people contribute to the community.. LOL.. I'm a furry, and the only time I joined this server I tried to play it like it was a normal DarkRP server. There were no gun dealers, I became a hitman, had no weapons but decided to try and accept a hit anyway and try to convince someone with more hours to become a gun dealer. Everybody treated me like I was a minge for just trying to play the server.. Not an enjoyable experience at all..
@@gingerdanny thats wild, they didnt even let you do your job
Hello, Sora Kite here.
I want to re-clarify some of the things that I already stated in the video, because I think most people commenting here have completely missed or ignored any of the points I was making. I understand this is just a troll video and most of this was brought up for a reaction, but I'm honestly really disgusted at how Glass and his commentators are trying to somehow twist this situation to make it seem like we are grooming children. Since a lot of my points were missed in this video and because I was drunk and don't have a good mic, I will explain them in detail here. And yes, I do yap a lot.
To start off, I completely understand the concern around minors being on this server. I even said this was a controversial topic to begin with. However, I will reaffirm my point, that we take these issues VERY seriously and we do our best to enforce NSFW rules and keep the server as safe as possible. We have the 18+ check system for people who want to be involved with 18+ content, and people who do not have the 18+ tag are not allowed to be involved with NSFW content. Even then, NSFW is strictly enforced and only allowed in private areas with only people who have 18+ tags, and also not everyone who doesn't have an 18+ tag is a minor, there are plenty of adults who choose not to be involved with 18+ content as well.
I say this is a safe space, because of the fact that we take such a strict approach against 18+ rules. Keep in mind most servers (especially past pony servers) had a reputation of not doing ANYTHING to enforce NSFW rules, and that caused a lot of issues with [p]. I myself have been a victim of this when I was 15, and it's why the topic of [p] is such a sensitive topic for not only me but for the entire community. Just to make it clear again, we do NOT support [p], and we in fact do permanently ban anyone who is caught doing this. This unfortunately does not completely prevent bad people from joining the server, however we do everything we can to stop it, and we barely have situations like this happening on the server. Most of our [p] bans are from victims of other communities reaching out to us with information on these people so we can ban them before they even touch the server to begin with. So that's not to say that bad things have never happened within this community, but we have always done our absolute best to keep it away from the server.
Now I want to address the minor in question. Dante is a 17 year old girl with learning disabilities. She was the subject of the topic I was talking about involving the person named ValleyAnimations that I brought up. I already explained how we instantly banned him and found out where he was staffing and got him exposed and banned from his other server as well as informing his local police, etc. I want to make it clear that Dante is NOT the only minor within the community, however she is the only one we really need to keep a close eye on, because every other minor (usually around age 16-17 btw) is mature enough to stay away from dangerous people. That being said though, we actually have considered banning Dante after the Valley situation, because we didn't want them to cause anymore trouble with the few bad apples that might be lurking around the community. The main reason we decided not to ban Dante for this situation, is because we were worried that if we did, she would lose the only community she really comes on and then end up following the same groomer who was putting her at risk. This is a very complicated and tough situation to deal with, but I want everyone to know, again, that we absolutely do not condone this behavior towards children, and we will do anything in our power to get rid of it.
Now to address one of the main questions in the video and comment section.
Why don't we just ban all children?
This is a hard position, because if we were to ban all children and make this strictly an 18+ server, Ironstone would be a p*rn server, which we do not want. Even if Ironstone did go that route, minors would still make their way on the server, and I believe that would only make matters worse. If we were to go the other direction and completely ban NSFW content, a lot of the people who do it in their own private time and don't cause issues would be upset, we would lose a lot of our playerbase and it also wouldn't stop everyone from doing it anyways, which again would just cause more issues. Unfortunately, you cannot strip 18+ content from adults in the pony or furry fandom, we all know how that is. The most we can do is heavily restrict it, to prevent bad things from happening. The middle ground here is to let Ironstone be an open community, but completely separate 18+ content from non 18+ users. Our rules specifically state that it must be kept in private, and everyone involved must have an 18+ tag. Breaking these rules always will result in an automatic permaban with no exceptions and no chance to appeal.
Now here are my personal issues with this video and some of the people commenting here.
I, again, completely understand the concern for minors being on a server with 18+ people, but I feel like everyone has completely ignored my points and are doing everything they can to twist the entire situation to make it seem like I'm actually a [p] or that this server is for [p]'s. Even in the video, when I am explaining everything about how we enforce our rules in great detail, I am constantly being talked over and interrupted. I was not given much of a chance to actually explain myself. I was just automatically given that label from the very beginning simply because "theres a minor and you have been on here for a year". The fact is, there is not a single shred of evidence that proves that anyone on the server at the time, including me, is a [p]. Glass even specified in the video that he was just joking at first, he was trying to get a reaction out of me, but then started twisting it when I got triggered at him constantly suspecting me or my community members of being a [p].
An example of how this situation is being manipulated unfairly against me as at this timestamp here [17:54], where he says I'm "trying to change the subject" and uses the fact that me, being drunk and getting distracted by the crazy situation that was unfolding at the time, was basically fake because I been playing gmod for so long. This is not a fair point to use against me mostly because I actually was trying to stay on topic, and was even the one to bring it back up again after the situation was calm. Not only that, but just because I been playing gmod for that long doesn't mean I can't find a flying truck with broken physics to be funny and distracting while I'm intoxicated and everyone else was laughing about it. But I was not trying to change the subject, I didn't change the subject I went right back into that conversation, because I felt it was important to explain our seriousness about how we enforce our NSFW rules.
Another example of how this situation is being manipulated unfairly is when Glass saw Dante's spray at [24:37] and claimed that it was NSFW because it said "Marked as NSFW: No". This is just completely twisting the situation into a full on lie, because obviously having a art that isn't marked for NSFW means that it's SFW. It was not an NSFW spray as Glass claims later on in the video, it was just a picture displaying art of Dante's OC. There was absolutely nothing NSFW about it, go back and look at it. NSFW sprays, as well as all NSFW content is not allowed in public, and also cannot be viewed by minors. In fact, our 18+ system makes sure that people who do not have 18+ tags can NOT see NSFW sprays or content, so Glass was lying about seeing NSFW sprays.
There are other examples of Glass manipulating this situation, such as when he saw Dante was a donator, and tried to twist that into something about how that's weird and allures to the idea of us being a [p] server, when that honestly makes no sense, because people donating to the server for a rank is not anything inherently NSFW at all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone of any age donating to a platform they like, and in fact there are LOTS of donators on the server, so Dante is not nearly the only one. He also claims at multiple points in the video that Dante "has admin powers", because she was able to pick him up. I was trying to explain that everyone on the entire server was able to pick him up, because we gave him the "Silly" role, which is a rank we give to people who are only on the server to troll and cause issues. Anyone of any rank, even other silly's, can pick up a silly'd player. Dante is not an administrator on the server, and she never will be even if she was 18+, because of her learning disabilities and vulnerability to danger online. The only active staff in this entire video was me and Mikey who is an administrator.
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Something else I want to address is why I kept asking him what his real age was. No this was not me "trying to see if he's a minor so I can do things" or whatever sick conclusions everyone is jumping into. I honestly never realized how much I was asking that question until now, again I was very drunk that night. However, the main reason I kept asking that is because I knew he wasn't being honest with his age, and that not only made me feel a little uncomfortable, but I also really do not like dishonest people. I thought it was only fair if I'm being completely open and honest about myself so he should be too. 42 year olds don't play on the server, and I also didn't want to talk about the subject of [p] to someone who I thought might be a minor, though I felt like I had no choice but to explain myself when being accused of [p]. Also I didn't actually think he was 14, I was more suspecting like 17-19 because a lot of people who make edgy content like this are usually within that age range. I found his actions and choice of words rather immature, and I knew he wasn't 42, which is why I kept pestering him about it.
I would like to make one more point.
I find it completely disgusting and dehumanizing for so many people in the comment section to assume I'm a [p], when not only do yall have absolutely no proof or even a hint of me being one, but also completely ignored every single point I made in the video and clearly being uncomfortable and getting defensive when accused of one. I went into full detail about how we handle NSFW situations on the server and how we do our best to keep minors away from the server, and yall are ignoring it and twisting my words and making up accusations about me that aren't true, and you cannot prove any of it is real.
The only thing I can really say now is PLEASE do NOT jump to conclusions about people when you have no proof of them doing anything wrong. The video even said not to go out of your way to harass anyone in this video, but I am already being personally attacked by multiple people who are claiming I am a "kid diddler" and saying this is a [p] community. Understand that these are VERY SERIOUS accusations, that should NOT be taken lightly. Joking about minors being groomed is NOT A JOKE, and you do NOT go around dropping accusations like that, unless you have full proof that the person you are accusing to be a [p] is indeed actually a [p]. I do not like [p]'s, and I am not a [p]. Please be a little more open minded and try to see things from my perspective as well.
At the end of the day, this is nothing other than a troll video, and most of what Glass said was him just trying to get a reaction out of me. I hope everyone understands, I'm open to talking about this more either here or you can add me on Discord or Steam. I would be more than happy to talk about this into further detail, I have nothing to hide. As I said in the beginning of this video, you can ask me anything you want. Thank you, and have a nice day.
@@fruityhorssse7335 Every-time you talk, you make it worse. There’ll be videos made about this, and it will be thoroughly informative.
@@Gakkari Can you please explain how I'm making it worse? I genuinely do not understand what I'm doing wrong here, I'm clearly explaining how we handle NSFW situations and how we avoid minors getting involved with them. It seems like you are not even listening to anything I'm saying.
You’re disgusting. You’re more concerned about your player count than fostering a safe place for children by banning NSFW? You can’t have it both ways. You can try to justify it all you want by saying it’s the internet but you have made an active choice to allow children and 18+ content to coexisted.
@@fruityhorssse7335 this is disgusting. You’re more concerned with player count than fostering a safe space for children? Yet you claim you claim you were a victim? You can’t have it both ways. You can try to justify it by saying it’s the internet but you are actively choosing to allow children and 18+ content to coexist.