The end of an era... have been watching you since 2015 and still remember when you were advocating strongly for the use of esxi at home. Really sad that it had to end this way, but it was bound to happen when they got taken over.
VMWare had a great working model, a free basic version and a paid full feature version. but since it was bought out, the new "you never own anything" version is going to kill off VMWare for short term gains.
What is that flexible rack blank/"curtain" you're using to cover the NAS? Looks super neat for when you don't want a ton of permanently mounted blanking panel.
Nice video thank you. Looks like your still stuck on 32g rams not going for the 96g ram yet? How many watts is that system pulling now with everything moved over?
Finally we got a hold on your electricity bill. So, U$1.40 times 720 hours in a month, you are paying a U$1,000 for each kW/hour in a month. So, just with 4 medium spected of those servers running 24/7 you'll be paying U$2,000 each and every month, which is outrageous. I hope your channel makes more than that in youtube reveneu, because right there you got a big gash in your pocket.
I Run 4 NetApp FS systems for storage. And 5 Dual CPU E5-2690 v4 servers in a Proxmox Ceph cluster setup. Even with the extremely high electricity costs in the Netherlands. They only use about €780 monthly. I use it for my HomeAssistant, Monero mining. Pentesting and running some database services for several companies(Odoo).
Copy from one NAS to another NAS with Windows is slow, because the PC has to read from the network, cache it and write to the network on a different IP. Windows is not able to use more than about 4Gbit/s even if you have 10Gbit Network, because it uses just one single CPU-Core for that. Linux is much faster. But the fastest of all is to copy direct from one NAS to the other (on QNAP there's a funktion for remote-mount of shares, in Synology there should be something similar). It's than only limited by the write-speed of the disks (read is always faster and also buffered).
@MyPlayHouse perhaps. but believe me: nothing is faster than direct-copy from nas to nas without pc. you can mount a share from one nas on the other and use copy and paste in the filemanager of the nas itself.
I toyed with switching my home lab to ProxMox from Hyper-V, but currently not able to do so due to lack of new storage. I run TrueNAS with a single shared iSCSI that hosts all the VMs and ProxMox wont let me use it without destroying all the data on it - which would mean losing all my VMs So, until I can get enough cash to build a 2nd NAS cluster to migrate the VMs onto - Hyper-V it is
to migrate pfsense just export config on old vm and import config into new vm, there may be some changes needed if network interfaces changed but it is less work.
I have Proxmox in a production (big) environment, but I would not use it. You can create VMs with Terraform and libvirt, but even better, you can use Talos bare metal and you can have a Kuberentes cluster, VMs can be created with kubevirt.
Well yes,, it is a services to my US viewers,, there seam's to be a differences,, it is way more likely that an European knows the value of a dollar, then an American knowing the value of a euro.
@@MyPlayHouse I don't know how you calculate the prices of these kWh, but as far as I look at the statistics for Denmark, for the last 30 days, the price varies between 0.025 euros per kWh - up to 0.23 euros (the price of 0.23 euros per kWh is only 1 day this price - January 20. The rest of the time it varies around 0.09-0.18 euros average price per kWh). Especially for January 26, the average price per kilowatt hour is 0.10 euros. So where is 1.40 dollars? Was it a wrong statement about this 1.40 dollars or did I not understand something?
@@MyPlayHouse If you have questions, please feel free to ask. I'm no expert, but I've been running it for a little over 2 years now and I've done all kinds of stuff with it now. Most of my stuff has moved over onto Proxmox with very few, minor exceptions. I don't have any experience with VMware, but I reckon that whatever it is that you are trying to do, there is probably going to be something that will be very similar, with Proxmox (again, with very few exceptions).
Since Broadcom bought it and changed the licenses etc. More or less all YT'ers with setups lower than 100.000 users have stopped using ESXi due to price and lack of support from Broadcom. There was talk about ESXi free tier would get back, but so far 90% of the people I iknow have changed to Proxmox or similar, the last 10% almost all have jumped on the Hyper-V wagon.
You could have assigned the old wan mac address to the new router's wan interface. You just have to disable the 'mac filter' in proxmox to allow it. Then you can flip-flop between routers. A whole hour without internet? Are you mad?
hmm for me - I probably will use lenovo pc wich pci raizer and intel SFP card wu get on proxmox and pfsance - soryy - for me usb lan card looks stupid - I don't trast usb lan cards for work as internet point - but actualy I use UDM SE as my main router and I recomeded that if You haver unifi devices to manage and power via poe on my home that works good
Finally you’ve made the switch completely.
Welcome to the bright side of life.
Yes I did, but I have to power my vmware back up, as I destroyed my jump server right after filming... new to import it again :-/
The end of an era... have been watching you since 2015 and still remember when you were advocating strongly for the use of esxi at home. Really sad that it had to end this way, but it was bound to happen when they got taken over.
The day has finally come!
Yes it did :-)
You know vmware fucked up when their largest educator has completely moved off the platform.
Well,, it has kind of been going downhill since version 5.5 more and more stuff was taken out and put in extra packetes.
Rest is peace esxi. Will miss it. My lab pcs still run it but no updates so not anything I dare to put online
For a minite there, i thought you would end up in a tent with a laptop on 5G trying to get every last watt down. 😂
Well I want my 24/7 stuff to use less! If I turn something on for the weekend it is okay it uses 400w :-)
You can copy pfsense config from one instance to another.
You can copy mac address from old one pfsense wan interface to new pfsense wan interface.
I really needed to clean up,, I only copied over ½ of the old stuff :-) but thank You !
@@MyPlayHouseor backup xml en import in new pfsense
You can also set the MAC address in proxmox if you're using a virtualized adapter as Morten is doing with his PFsense VM.
you can backup the pfsense config then restore on 2nd vm after that just remove whats not used anymore
My pfsense was from 2016,, it needed a goot clean up!.
VMWare had a great working model, a free basic version and a paid full feature version.
but since it was bought out, the new "you never own anything" version is going to kill off VMWare for short term gains.
I am not paying for something, I am not getting.
What is that flexible rack blank/"curtain" you're using to cover the NAS? Looks super neat for when you don't want a ton of permanently mounted blanking panel.
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@@MyPlayHouse Awespme, but YIKES! That was one expensive curtain... 😂
I made the switch from ESXi to Proxmox over the Christmas holiday. NEVER GOING BACK.
Nice video thank you. Looks like your still stuck on 32g rams not going for the 96g ram yet? How many watts is that system pulling now with everything moved over?
Yes,, it is around €250 for 2x 48GB,,, I am tempted..
@@MyPlayHouse Virtual machines are always memory hungry.
Finally we got a hold on your electricity bill. So, U$1.40 times 720 hours in a month, you are paying a U$1,000 for each kW/hour in a month. So, just with 4 medium spected of those servers running 24/7 you'll be paying U$2,000 each and every month, which is outrageous. I hope your channel makes more than that in youtube reveneu, because right there you got a big gash in your pocket.
He He,, Nah,,, you are way off..
I Run 4 NetApp FS systems for storage. And 5 Dual CPU E5-2690 v4 servers in a Proxmox Ceph cluster setup. Even with the extremely high electricity costs in the Netherlands. They only use about €780 monthly. I use it for my HomeAssistant, Monero mining. Pentesting and running some database services for several companies(Odoo).
Copy from one NAS to another NAS with Windows is slow, because the PC has to read from the network, cache it and write to the network on a different IP. Windows is not able to use more than about 4Gbit/s even if you have 10Gbit Network, because it uses just one single CPU-Core for that. Linux is much faster. But the fastest of all is to copy direct from one NAS to the other (on QNAP there's a funktion for remote-mount of shares, in Synology there should be something similar). It's than only limited by the write-speed of the disks (read is always faster and also buffered).
It is usually faster than this..
@MyPlayHouse perhaps. but believe me: nothing is faster than direct-copy from nas to nas without pc. you can mount a share from one nas on the other and use copy and paste in the filemanager of the nas itself.
Use promox backup server. I just crashed my whole proxmox because of a poweroutage....yes i need a ups
This tiny Terramaster F8 NAS runs on 12v could be fun to do something with that... and UPS...
Excellent work :-)
Many thanks!
I toyed with switching my home lab to ProxMox from Hyper-V, but currently not able to do so due to lack of new storage.
I run TrueNAS with a single shared iSCSI that hosts all the VMs and ProxMox wont let me use it without destroying all the data on it - which would mean losing all my VMs
So, until I can get enough cash to build a 2nd NAS cluster to migrate the VMs onto - Hyper-V it is
It can be quite the puzzle,, you will get more choices along the way.
to migrate pfsense just export config on old vm and import config into new vm, there may be some changes needed if network interfaces changed but it is less work.
I really needed to clean up,, I only copied over ½ of the old stuff :-) but thank You !
congrats! :D
Thank You :-)
I have Proxmox in a production (big) environment, but I would not use it. You can create VMs with Terraform and libvirt, but even better, you can use Talos bare metal and you can have a Kuberentes cluster, VMs can be created with kubevirt.
Hi @rtacconi
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
When you say 1 dollar is that NOL, USD, etc?
He is danish, uses danish kroners.
He provides conversions in USD and euros.
Well yes,, it is a services to my US viewers,, there seam's to be a differences,, it is way more likely that an European knows the value of a dollar, then an American knowing the value of a euro.
@@MyPlayHouse I don't know how you calculate the prices of these kWh, but as far as I look at the statistics for Denmark, for the last 30 days, the price varies between 0.025 euros per kWh - up to 0.23 euros (the price of 0.23 euros per kWh is only 1 day this price - January 20. The rest of the time it varies around 0.09-0.18 euros average price per kWh). Especially for January 26, the average price per kilowatt hour is 0.10 euros. So where is 1.40 dollars? Was it a wrong statement about this 1.40 dollars or did I not understand something?
Proxmox is awesome!
Great video!
I am still getting use to it..
@@MyPlayHouse
If you have questions, please feel free to ask.
I'm no expert, but I've been running it for a little over 2 years now and I've done all kinds of stuff with it now.
Most of my stuff has moved over onto Proxmox with very few, minor exceptions.
I don't have any experience with VMware, but I reckon that whatever it is that you are trying to do, there is probably going to be something that will be very similar, with Proxmox (again, with very few exceptions).
Welcome to the club.
Thank You,,, Club member :-)
Wow. I just signed up with a new electricity supplier in America for 6.6 cents per kW hour.
That is cheap,, normal here is around 30 cents per kW hour.
Does anyone still use ESXi? I feel like I never see videos about it anymore-did it just fall out of favor?
Since Broadcom bought it and changed the licenses etc.
More or less all YT'ers with setups lower than 100.000 users have stopped using ESXi due to price and lack of support from Broadcom.
There was talk about ESXi free tier would get back, but so far 90% of the people I iknow have changed to Proxmox or similar, the last 10% almost all have jumped on the Hyper-V wagon.
We still use it at work,, on big scale...
and what if your costumer insist and demands software and says no to anything else
I have that at work :-) We are still on ESXi there..
A cold datacenter? Shouldn't that be an oxymoron anywhere in the world? 😂
I should probably get rid of some stuff :-)
@MyPlayHouse I wouldn't call my wife that.... IT gear you say? Nope, not happening 😜
You could have assigned the old wan mac address to the new router's wan interface. You just have to disable the 'mac filter' in proxmox to allow it. Then you can flip-flop between routers. A whole hour without internet? Are you mad?
use your domain on blue sky you have seen me
hmm for me - I probably will use lenovo pc wich pci raizer and intel SFP card wu get on proxmox and pfsance - soryy - for me usb lan card looks stupid - I don't trast usb lan cards for work as internet point - but actualy I use UDM SE as my main router and I recomeded that if You haver unifi devices to manage and power via poe on my home that works good
The newer USB is really fast,, and can do up to 10Gbit,,,