Hired any hitmen lately? Pretty far out for anyone, let alone a pastor. Dude is "attacked" with truth about his ungodly behavior, by his elder board, which he fired, refuses to repent. Lol. You sir, did the damage.
And because people bought this gaslighting narrative, a woman is in the hospital and he’s now facing 7 years. The most unloving thing we can do as a church is ignore abusive patterns of behavior but that is what the Evangelical Industrial Complex did with James McD, just like they have done with many other abusive pastors. By platforming him and buying his manipulative DARVO-ing, they have enabled his sin. This why there are qualifications for Elders. No caveats are there in 1 Timothy 3. They aren’t guidelines. They’re qualifications and they are there not to just protect the sheep, but to provide spiritual accountability for the elder. James Mc D showed them who he was. But they didn’t believe him.
An expert narcissist. If he truly cared for the people, he would apologize for his lies, abuse, manipulation and GREED. He became untouchable because he has an inability to humble himself. For someone that knows the Bible so well, it hasn’t penetrated his heart. This is coming from someone formerly friends with members of the family and attendee of Harvest for years.
Everyone needs to visit the country clubs and check out how he flirts with women and gets drunk. He was my pastor for years, even children saw he was a bully.
Hey we all make mistakes. When you are in leadership and make mistakes it will hurt a lot of people. I grew up with Pastor James as my pastor when I was a kid. He has an incredible ability to convey the Gospel. I made big huge enormous mistakes in life too. No one is innocent in this life, that's why we need Jesus. Pastor James if I ever get to see you again in person I will tell you that you really did impact our family for God. Thanks for that. Fond memories of Awana clubs on Wednesday nights and Jericho Junction on Sundays. (yeah I was there in the 90s :)
We make mistakes… then we apologize and show remorse by turning from those mistakes. None of his actions during or after have been Biblical. Do as I say, not as I do.
@@brendaseals7739 If he is tried and convicted of that, no not at all. But God can use us even when we make mistakes, even terrible mistakes. Remember the story of David? He killed Bathsheba's husband, after sleeping with her! Yet David wrote the Psalms and we use those still today. God is better at punishing us than we are really. Remember David's child died because of what he did. Peace friend.
I have ALWAYS loved pastor James Macdonalds teaching. His style of teaching really resonated with me. When he came to NYC years ago I went to see him. I've never really done that before. I've been listening to him again in TH-cam. Putting all that happened at HBC aside, pastor James Macdonald is STILL an anointed teacher of Gods word. I've learned alot.. My favorite thing that he's said is "Gods kids are gettin it". Meaning whom the Lord loves He chasins Praying for you and your ministry Pastor James Macdonald...
‘Frustrated with the attacks….’ He lied, lied, lied to us. He was controlling and manipulative. I finally left when he was once again calling us together in another ‘family chat’ where he once again defended himself from another rogue elder or high profile church member who spoke out on the churches financial situation and James’ behavior. He dodged and doubled down on what was called ‘5G’ long game and gave us the sales pitch. See he never addressed the elephant in the room and the truth of the situation. I was no dummy as i saw the manipulations happening. Most people I knew were still drinking the kool aid and were blind to it. I had to get out. Men in the church loved to hear what James had to say. I remember at least a couple times in the final years i was there were he called men only family chat. You knew then how desperate it was getting as the men were much more willing to die on the sword for what James would sell and ask of everyone. I remember how the small group curriculums all immediately changed to hand down from the leadership down to the small group leaders the carefully crafted messages to get us all in line. This happened several times. One arrogant dude.
So many words, so little taking responsibility. James, exit stage left. Get the help you need. Repent. Heal. You've skipped many necessary biblical steps. No matter the sympathetic interviewers or questions, no matter other people's behavior (illegal recordings of hateful, disgusting diatribes that you make against the faithful church members who support your ministry). Your overweening pride is a stumbling block.
You will know them by their FRUIT After allegedly assaulting a woman in vehicle the illegal hand gun was found in truck This is his response MacDonald took to Facebook to apologize in 2019, stating: “I was, am, and will remain very sorry for the careless and hurtful words that were illegally recorded and publicized. I confess to all who have followed my ministry, a regression into sinful patterns of fleshly anger and self pity that wounded co-workers and others.” All he is worried about is “illegal recording” HIS OFFENSES This is an example of a NARCISSIST! God will judge thus man in Jesus name! His violence must stop! The church needs to STOP! STOP DEFENDING PERPETRATORS OF VIOLENCE
What a sick human being. Actions speak louder than words and may the Lord judge you by your actions & you confess your evil deeds and turn over a new leaf and take your own advice from the truth you teach. Follow what you teach and don’t be fake. Prayers for James MacDonald.
So his comment at 8:08 is false and even I, who am young and quite ignorant regarding law, know it… I hope but find it difficult to suspect he doesn’t. (IE: I hope he is ignorant but suspect he is lying.) Clarification: There is no “US” law prohibiting this; SOME state laws prohibit it and some don’t, and i don’t know his state’s law.
I personally knew him. I was an acquaintance . I worked with him and for him on the church staff. I am now in ministry and his preaching still has an impact on me years later. I find his teaching and biblical knowledge amazing. I still consider him the best preacher I have heard. The time when the situations were happening were very pressure filled. The church exploded with people and money quickly. His reactions were not always great and his approach to people was not always good. But he was young and we all have made mistakes. His preaching is still a blessing !!!!
Look at all the “likes” the pastor is is liking. He’s part of problem only liking the like that are positive for this scumbag. Those cucks perverted the faith and should be avoided!
I really miss hearing Walk in the Word on the radio. However with all the facts that we have Pastor James did fall. I pray that he has repented of what he said. Sounds like James had no accountability. Just my opinion.
This guy is SUCH a disgrace / He has always been a good speaker " BUT " Pastor " well he has proven who he really ' IS ' , how sad ..... ALWAYS BLAMING OTHERS....
“The show must go on” comment at the end speaks volumes. At some point, it all became a show for him as his ego grew out of control. My family attended Harvest for almost two decades, beginning in the early days at Rolling Meadows HS. I changed churches in college and found MacDonald’s tone increasingly cockier and angrier each time I visited after that. I’m grateful for God’s work through Harvest and also saddened by the lack of accountability that contributed to all of this.
the organized Church does more damage than good because the people make the pastors feel like gods instead of men and that's too much pressure to put on anybody
He considers himself to be the world's best preacher. I heard him preach a sermon at Harvest once talking about winning a preaching contest. He could probably win an acting-like-a-pastor contest too!
I always liked JM's preaching style, watched him a lot & was sad to hear what happened to his ministry. I don't know the details so I'm not going to judge. What I read was it was over church finances being moved around for personal reasons ? Am i wrong ?
Well he did make many many enemies for preaching the truth so they’ve been waiting for him to slip for a long time . We cant forget this man is human and can and is aloud to make mistakes ! now hire a weak pastor to run the church and more people will end up in HELL !
I don't see it about being "strong vs. weak". It's about bullying (with words, and behavior) rather than encouraging (instructing, speaking the truth in love, leading by example). MacDonald is a bully.
I believe James McDonald loves the Lord and he loves the sheep. Period. I hate when drama strikes withing the church. I know it happens but let's not microcosm it right down to James McDonald. Ugh. God bless you Mr McDonald.
Maybe at one point then he decided to do all the evil he did. He doesn’t love the Lord based on evil deeds aka his actions. A man is one of his word and not a liar. Let’s hope he turns over a new leaf and follows himself what he preaches and the Lord will know he loves the Lord. Victim mentality. He even indirectly admits here it’s the message not the messenger. He doesn’t know how to own up to his actions and avoids it, God wants us to be accountable.
I heard the hot mike was more like a discussion of the plot to plant xxx-evil-xxx material on someone's computer. BTW, ISW web searches, IL is a multiparty state regarding recordings. All parties must consent. US law is 1 of the parties must consent.
However, a CBS report said he called the show & maybe didn't know or expect the convo was being broadcast! If you call a show you should expect it might very well be broadcast, by golly!
Hired any hitmen lately? Pretty far out for anyone, let alone a pastor. Dude is "attacked" with truth about his ungodly behavior, by his elder board, which he fired, refuses to repent. Lol. You sir, did the damage.
And because people bought this gaslighting narrative, a woman is in the hospital and he’s now facing 7 years. The most unloving thing we can do as a church is ignore abusive patterns of behavior but that is what the Evangelical Industrial Complex did with James McD, just like they have done with many other abusive pastors. By platforming him and buying his manipulative DARVO-ing, they have enabled his sin. This why there are qualifications for Elders. No caveats are there in 1 Timothy 3. They aren’t guidelines. They’re qualifications and they are there not to just protect the sheep, but to provide spiritual accountability for the elder. James Mc D showed them who he was. But they didn’t believe him.
Trying to hire a hitman isn't what a pastor should do. If he did then he should be put away for a long long long time!
@@fatboy1603 he put a woman in the hospital for 21 days amd tried to get out of it using PTSD as an excuse to get out of it.
An expert narcissist. If he truly cared for the people, he would apologize for his lies, abuse, manipulation and GREED. He became untouchable because he has an inability to humble himself. For someone that knows the Bible so well, it hasn’t penetrated his heart.
This is coming from someone formerly friends with members of the family and attendee of Harvest for years.
Same here and you nailed it!
No, I was married to a narcissist. I don't believe he is one.
Everyone needs to visit the country clubs and check out how he flirts with women and gets drunk. He was my pastor for years, even children saw he was a bully.
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Hey we all make mistakes. When you are in leadership and make mistakes it will hurt a lot of people. I grew up with Pastor James as my pastor when I was a kid. He has an incredible ability to convey the Gospel. I made big huge enormous mistakes in life too. No one is innocent in this life, that's why we need Jesus. Pastor James if I ever get to see you again in person I will tell you that you really did impact our family for God. Thanks for that. Fond memories of Awana clubs on Wednesday nights and Jericho Junction on Sundays. (yeah I was there in the 90s :)
We make mistakes… then we apologize and show remorse by turning from those mistakes. None of his actions during or after have been Biblical. Do as I say, not as I do.
@@Nkosh I think that’s a private matter between a person and God. Yes?
So you agree with his recent assault of the 59 year old woman in the parking lot and the illegal handgun he was carrying???
@@brendaseals7739 If he is tried and convicted of that, no not at all. But God can use us even when we make mistakes, even terrible mistakes. Remember the story of David? He killed Bathsheba's husband, after sleeping with her! Yet David wrote the Psalms and we use those still today. God is better at punishing us than we are really. Remember David's child died because of what he did. Peace friend.
@@salvatorelongo5994 well said. I Agree with you.
I have ALWAYS loved pastor James Macdonalds teaching. His style of teaching really resonated with me. When he came to NYC years ago I went to see him. I've never really done that before. I've been listening to him again in TH-cam. Putting all that happened at HBC aside, pastor James Macdonald is STILL an anointed teacher of Gods word. I've learned alot.. My favorite thing that he's said is "Gods kids are gettin it". Meaning whom the Lord loves He chasins Praying for you and your ministry Pastor James Macdonald...
Even Judas cast out demons in the Lord's name.
@@Ironwind1972 - and wasn’t born again, ever.
@@romansthirteen-four8626 Really makes ya wonder don't it?
Dude punched a woman
‘Frustrated with the attacks….’ He lied, lied, lied to us. He was controlling and manipulative. I finally left when he was once again calling us together in another ‘family chat’ where he once again defended himself from another rogue elder or high profile church member who spoke out on the churches financial situation and James’ behavior. He dodged and doubled down on what was called ‘5G’ long game and gave us the sales pitch. See he never addressed the elephant in the room and the truth of the situation. I was no dummy as i saw the manipulations happening. Most people I knew were still drinking the kool aid and were blind to it. I had to get out. Men in the church loved to hear what James had to say. I remember at least a couple times in the final years i was there were he called men only family chat. You knew then how desperate it was getting as the men were much more willing to die on the sword for what James would sell and ask of everyone. I remember how the small group curriculums all immediately changed to hand down from the leadership down to the small group leaders the carefully crafted messages to get us all in line. This happened several times. One arrogant dude.
James Macdonald was such a no-excuses tough guy behind the pulpit and now hes playing the innocent victim....who takes these con artists seriously??
So many words, so little taking responsibility. James, exit stage left. Get the help you need. Repent. Heal.
You've skipped many necessary biblical steps. No matter the sympathetic interviewers or questions, no matter other people's behavior (illegal recordings of hateful, disgusting diatribes that you make against the faithful church members who support your ministry). Your overweening pride is a stumbling block.
"Attacked? It isn't that...(long pause)...it's the MONEY
You will know them by their FRUIT
After allegedly assaulting a woman in vehicle the illegal hand gun was found in truck
This is his response
MacDonald took to Facebook to apologize in 2019, stating: “I was, am, and will remain very sorry for the careless and hurtful words that were illegally recorded and publicized. I confess to all who have followed my ministry, a regression into sinful patterns of fleshly anger and self pity that wounded co-workers and others.”
All he is worried about is “illegal recording” HIS OFFENSES
This is an example of a NARCISSIST!
God will judge thus man in Jesus name!
His violence must stop!
The church needs to STOP!
STOP DEFENDING PERPETRATORS OF VIOLENCE
What a sick human being. Actions speak louder than words and may the Lord judge you by your actions & you confess your evil deeds and turn over a new leaf and take your own advice from the truth you teach. Follow what you teach and don’t be fake. Prayers for James MacDonald.
Wolves in sheep's clothing! Yeah, God can still save such an evil doer.
Pray also for all his victims, some of whom will not return to church due to the abuse and toxic church culture under MacDonald.
So his comment at 8:08 is false and even I, who am young and quite ignorant regarding law, know it… I hope but find it difficult to suspect he doesn’t. (IE: I hope he is ignorant but suspect he is lying.)
Clarification: There is no “US” law prohibiting this; SOME state laws prohibit it and some don’t, and i don’t know his state’s law.
I personally knew him. I was an acquaintance . I worked with him and for him on the church staff. I am now in ministry and his preaching still has an impact on me years later. I find his teaching and biblical knowledge amazing. I still consider him the best preacher I have heard.
The time when the situations were happening were very pressure filled. The church exploded with people and money quickly. His reactions were not always great and his approach to people was not always good. But he was young and we all have made mistakes. His preaching is still a blessing !!!!
That’s a very thoughtful post.
Young? His most recent firing from Harvest and assaults at the age of 60 with over 30 yrs of senior pastor experience is young?
Look at all the “likes” the pastor is is liking. He’s part of problem only liking the like that are positive for this scumbag. Those cucks perverted the faith and should be avoided!
I really miss hearing Walk in the Word on the radio. However with all the facts that we have Pastor James did fall. I pray that he has repented of what he said. Sounds like James had no accountability. Just my opinion.
This guy is SUCH a disgrace / He has always been a good speaker " BUT " Pastor " well he has proven who he really ' IS ' , how sad ..... ALWAYS BLAMING OTHERS....
“The show must go on” comment at the end speaks volumes. At some point, it all became a show for him as his ego grew out of control. My family attended Harvest for almost two decades, beginning in the early days at Rolling Meadows HS. I changed churches in college and found MacDonald’s tone increasingly cockier and angrier each time I visited after that. I’m grateful for God’s work through Harvest and also saddened by the lack of accountability that contributed to all of this.
the organized Church does more damage than good because the people make the pastors feel like gods instead of men and that's too much pressure to put on anybody
"the plan to, I'll put child porn on [name's] computer" author of this quote: Pastor James MacDonald
shame on you for trying to clean up this hypocrite's reputation
He considers himself to be the world's best preacher. I heard him preach a sermon at Harvest once talking about winning a preaching contest. He could probably win an acting-like-a-pastor contest too!
"There's Guilty and then there's Guilty with an Explanation."
Does that excuse work with St. Peter at the Pearly Gates?
"You don't need the truth, only an emotional narrative" to tell a story? So... it's all BS?
I always liked JM's preaching style, watched him a lot & was sad to hear what happened to his ministry. I don't know the details so I'm not going to judge. What I read was it was over church finances being moved around for personal reasons ? Am i wrong ?
Pastor James is a friend, mentor and brother.
Never heard a man speak w/ a vocal fry
You taught me a new term! I'm already down a TH-cam rabbit trail with this...
Oh I have. And it's annoying. 😂
How’s that assault charge going?
Dismissed. Tell Julie we said hi.
You tried to use ptsd as an excuse to get out of that! Putting a woman in the hospital for 21 days! Lol. You’re a scumbag dude
He put a lady in the hospital for 21 days! Let’s see proof of his charges being dismissed!
Grasping for the praise of men. Utterly futile. He should know this.
Must be something in the surname. I know another with thw same name and the same position who is a total narcissistic.
now you get arrested you have no credibility
Well he did make many many enemies for preaching the truth so they’ve been waiting for him to slip for a long time .
We cant forget this man is human and can and is aloud to make mistakes !
now hire a weak pastor to run the church and more people will end up in HELL !
I don't see it about being "strong vs. weak". It's about bullying (with words, and behavior) rather than encouraging (instructing, speaking the truth in love, leading by example). MacDonald is a bully.
God bless Pastor James.
I believe James McDonald loves the Lord and he loves the sheep. Period. I hate when drama strikes withing the church. I know it happens but let's not microcosm it right down to James McDonald. Ugh. God bless you Mr McDonald.
Maybe at one point then he decided to do all the evil he did. He doesn’t love the Lord based on evil deeds aka his actions. A man is one of his word and not a liar. Let’s hope he turns over a new leaf and follows himself what he preaches and the Lord will know he loves the Lord. Victim mentality. He even indirectly admits here it’s the message not the messenger. He doesn’t know how to own up to his actions and avoids it, God wants us to be accountable.
I'm so sorry for what happened to this man.
I heard the hot mike was more like a discussion of the plot to plant xxx-evil-xxx material on someone's computer. BTW, ISW web searches, IL is a multiparty state regarding recordings. All parties must consent. US law is 1 of the parties must consent.
However, a CBS report said he called the show & maybe didn't know or expect the convo was being broadcast! If you call a show you should expect it might very well be broadcast, by golly!