Inverter Installation Keystone Springdale Mini Travel Trailer - What you need to know!
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- What you need to know about installing an inverter in the Keystone Springdale Mini Travel Trailer. Plus useful information for installing an inverter in any RV!
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Hi folks! I know a lot of my viewers won't be interested in the details of my trailer upgrades, but "A LOT" of you said you were. So for those that are interested...here you go! I made separate videos with the details of the upgrades as to not interfere with your regular Sunday programing. Enjoy! :)
Cat...
You are my regular Sunday programming. Well, I like the Flintstones and the Jetsons quite a bit as well. 🤣 But you first!!!
I'm hoping that you're out on a multi day hike right now. Have fun sweetheart. See ya, bye.
Love you. ❤ Randy. 🎼✌
Cat, get a piece of scratch paper and calculate just how much power draw you'll ever imagine using yourself. That should help determine how much Amp Hours you'll need for your battery bank. Try to avoid overkill on the number of batteries you end up getting. If you plan it right, you can design the setup expandable thus saving money, weight and space.
Thank you for these the way you are doing them. Bob Wells just did a comparison of some lithium batteries and it is great to see the quality come up and price come down. That video also had some serious considerations about lithium and freezing temps. You might want to learn this for when you get out in temps near the freezing point. Just a thought. So much to learn, but you can do it. Especially with Dan's help. Most of us do not need to know the details much more than what an installer should be doing correct and one we can trust. You found a gem. And we need to know how to use without damaging the set up and what the limits are. Even as you spend a lot and expand to the most your trailer can hold it will never be unlimited like a home. solar still requires trade offs and monitoring. You might get AC but it will drain the batteries fast and cause more charging cycles to wear out your batteries. Nice to have when it is life or death but go easy on it daily. Realistic expectations are what matters really.
Love your videos.. do you do rock hounding? Have you ever found any cool rocks on your travels?
@@markpashia7067 The only time cold Temps are an issue with lithium batteries, is if you are in Temps below 10F. The battery will discharge down to 0F, and charge down to an internal battery temp of 32F. I have my batteries in an outside compartment and have been down to 8 degrees and the internal battery temp is still above 32 degrees. Plus the battery will stop the charging if it ever did get to 33 degrees. Cat will most likely never be in an are that cold to be an issue.
I know what a miracle it would be to get this done while in Escalante. I know Escalante and I am SUPER impressed that you could get this done, WAY out there. WOW!!! (Good job Dan :)
9:20 Glad Dan could do this work for Catherine, because Bubba or Gomer might not fit thru that access door. It's good to know a Marine.
How fortunate to have someone so knowledgeable and willing to do it for you. Very nice.
Dan's the MAN! Friends like that are hard to come by. You should make him a very special meal. You now have all the conveniences of home. God's speed my friend. Travel safely.
She cooked me several meals! 😋
You have no idea how helpful and informative this was. I will definitely watch the follow on. I recently bought a Keystone Crossfire Bullet and was told the same BS about all the prep that there. I opened the cover and started laughing. Then I started swearing. Obviously, the dealers are less than informative if you want to do your own work. This has been GREAT. I can move forward from here.
We called the dealer the trailer was purchased from, and could not answer our basic questions. The techs said they were trying to learn about installing an inverter from watching TH-cam! Thats scary!
@@ontheroadwithdan5571 I have a strong basis in electrical wiring and a good working knowledge of solar. Understanding what was on either side of that loop wire is extremely helpful. How you traced it out (particularly the microwave connection) will be even more helpful. I've found that the various Solar Flex packages provide a great blueprint for future planning the end build. Thanks for sharing your work.
Nice job 👍 What an awesome friend you have to install that for you. Looks like your new home is coming together. Love it 😊
Dan is a great friend and helper...the are few out there to helo a fine lady like Cat...Great job.
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San Clemente neighbors, as helpful as they may have been, won’t be able to compete with Dan’s awesomeness. Your Work From Home office is energized for the next chapter in Cat Adventures.
Wow, Dan is so smooth! Very well spoken and comfortable on camera… you really lucked out with him!
Thank you Dan! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 How kind and very generous of you to help Cat get her power needs sorted out and functioning so she can continue to produce and share her wonderful videos. You sir are a true friend indeed!
It was my pleasure!
Great Job !! Thank goodness for great people like Dan in this lifetime. Very good information and looking forward to seeing how extra solar panels and new batteries are installed as well. You two have a great time in that beautiful area.
This was interesting to me just from a curiosity standpoint.
Dan is a gem. 🌈
Good job Dan! Looks like a very professional and clean install.
Dan is a great friend!! Glad you got that taken care of!
🙏 Thank you Angela!
Pro info all around - video and explanation! How nice to have a friend like Dan. Super lucky. You are ready for anything.
How kind of you, Dan! What a great help to Cat! 💜🦋👍
Shout out to Dan for your kindness to Cat! Cat I hope you have better luck than I did with my set up. My system is much like yours is currently. The two solar panels did not generate enough power to really allow me to use the 120V. I just used my 12V for fridge and lights. Wanted to cook with 120V, but I just use camp stove and backpacker jet boil. It would drain my batteries fast. You will have better performance I am sure with your added solar and lithium batteries.
Great job!
Woo hoo, I call dibs on Dan doing my rig next! Nice video guys. Good content.
thank god for Dan!!!! Awesome video!
Great video, and Dan is such a wonderful friend
Thank you Catherine and Dan! Great presentation of an inverter, device requirements, installation process. Etc Very helpful…we are in the process of doing the same but upgrading to lithium batteries so we can boondock for longer periods.
Very nice job, sir. I'm getting ready to do this on my 5th wheel.
Excellent video. Great addition.
This is great timing for me as I am just now jumping into solar power. I just bought a renogy starter kit. It's only 400 watts and the inverter is only 1000 watts but I don't need any more than that. But the technology is all the same no matter how big or little your system is.
Thanks Dan for helping our dear friend, Catherine out. That was very generous. 🙂
Catherine and Dan, thank you for the very informative videos. I recently purchased a Keystone fifth wheel with the inverter prep. Just wondering if I am correct in that the input side of the transfer switch has the shore side of the inverter prep wire and the output of the inverter and the output of the transfer switch is wired to the inverted outlets. Also, you mentioned that the transfer switch needs to match your shore power. Mine is 50 amps. Just a bit confused on that because the inverter loop wire is 12/3 so it wouldn't seem that there would be more than 20 amps flowing through that wire. I really appreciate you passing on all of your knowledge.
Hey Dan can you do my rig next? Good job and very nice spot.
Excellent video. QUESTION; some people have said the fuse needs to go as close to the battery as possible, any thoughts, or as long as it’s in the line, it’s ok?
Very well done, one question , the inverter- is it a true sine wave or a modified sine wave, makes a big difference to some electronic equipment.
The Renogy 2000 watt inverter we installed is a pure sine wave inverter. All and any electronics run perfectly fine with the cheaper modified sine wave inverters. The only items you really need a pure sine wave inverter for are the microwave and air conditioning. I ran a modified sine wave inverter from 2005 to 2013 and the only thing I burned up was my microwave. Laptop, phones, desktop, etc have a power supply with a transformer, which provides isolation from any possible effects of a modified sine wave.
One thing to remember is that you can get 12V chargers/adapters for tool batteries (e.g., Ryobi) and Camera batteries (for my Nikons) and for my HP Laptop. And 12V to 5V USB chargers take care of a lot of today's electronics, including my Waterpik dental "flosser".
Cat's new trailer came with a couple usb ports installed. I installed a higher wattage dual USB C port for her to use to charge her Apple devices.
Fantastic!
Hello. I purchased two lithium batteries for my RV that's very similar to yours under the belief of this video that i'll be able to run AC while boondocking off of the inverter and I now am learning that the AC or the microwave won't work? How did you get yours to function? I'd really appreciate it.
How did Dan get the inverter to power all of the outlets?
Do these inverters not have built-in ac change over?
Question: have you had any problems with the inverter being mounted outside in the storage bay? The reason I ask is because I'm thinking of locating mine in the same place however we full time in an RV here just outside of Phoenix and today is 115° outside. I'm just worried it's too hot for the inverter to run in this heat, afraid it will melt.
Hi was wondering it is inverter prepped which wires go to where I know they go to the out let’s and another set go to the shore power but which one are they ,I have the same set up?
Can you give me any information about the grommets shown n the video
21,000 rv's models 21 22, from multiple manufacturers have faulty lpg gas connections, an the rv companies are not notifying owners till July. Please spread the word
That recall is now up to 160,000 RVs. It is only for the quick connect on the outside, used to connect a grill. Cat does not have that feature.
Another question, why the victron solar controller was removed to install a renogy, renogy is nice but victron is better
Victron is not better or worse than Renogy. But Victron is 2 to 3 times more expensive. The reason the Victron was removed is because it was maxed out with the 200 watt existing solar panel. We needed a much larger, 40 amp, solar controller for the 620 watts of solar now on the roof.
@@ontheroadwithdan5571 make sense I was thinking that was 200watts, I have the same configuration and I want to understand why. The victron I think that is 15amp but it can receive more volts I don’t remember the number so you can increase the volts to keep the amp. Something that I am thinking to do.
@@schulmane you are correct, but that does not help in this case. The 15 amps is the max amps that the controller can charge the battery with. If we had not upgraded the solar controller, the additional solar would be almost completely wasted.
Don't you need a weatherproof cover for the batteries and wiring?
The covers were installed after we shot the video.
@@ontheroadwithdan5571 I'll sleep well tonight!
Perfect inverter summary! Dan is a true friend for sure. Look forward to the solar content (and lithium) when those occur.
Thanks 🙏 Cat (and Dan) for sharing.
Thanks and Kudos to Dan for all his professional help and clearly explaining everything so far!! 👍 Can't wait to see more of the installation!! Cat Thanks 😊
Dan has a pleasant and professional TH-cam presence.
Nice work! I hope rv manufacturers are taking note to consider offering upgraded power options from the get go. Undoubtedly it would be much easier to install this stuff as original equipment. Dan - you da man!
RV manufacturers are now offering upgraded solar, inverter, and lithium options. Their pricing for these upgrades is crazy high. We were able to accomplish the same upgrades for less than a 1/4 of their prices.
Thanks for that info. It looks like great small business opportunities for someone with the right skill set and interests.
@@Kevin-hy8ok It could be, unless they are already retired. Lol
Thank you, I'm so glad you did this video--I didn't understand inverters at all and will soon be in a camper, and this really helps. Transfer switch, solar charge controller, fuse (200 watt), I got a little lost on these things. What a great guy to do this plus explain to us newbies! Appreciate it!
Dan and Cat, that was the best electric overview I have ever heard! Dan, your explanations were just enough info for us “mere mortals” to understand without getting us confused. Thank you. I have a deep appreciation for those of you who understand this subject. I am slowly learning the lingo and getting a grasp of what it all entails. Thank you. I am looking forward to the rest of the solar install.
100% agree! Thank you🌸
I really enjoyed watching the inverter installation video. The video reaffirmed what I had already learned from numerous how to videos, but Dan was so much more in depth as to why everything was working the proper way. After watching his installation, I completed my own conversion and everything works properly. And yes, it is a tight space to work in. Just need to find out what he did to put the microwave on the loop.
Thank you
Dave D
A lithium battery can be cycled to zero, but that will quickly kill it. Reccommendations are never to take it below 20% for best life. (Varies with type and maker.)
I believe the design of Battleborn LiFePo4 batteries allow for 100% discharge with an internal shutoff to protect the batteries from excessive discharge.
Years ago, that's what they were saying. But with the advanced Battery Management Systems now standard, it is not only ok to discharge to 0%, but so manufacturers are now suggesting you do this from time to time.
@@ontheroadwithdan5571 Battleborn batteries are designed with an internal shutoff system to protect from excessive discharge. At least that's what the folks in Reno said to me on the phone.
Dan the Man!
I appreciate this overview. Just enough to comprehend the scale without getting lost in the detail weeds.
Thanks Dan! Cat, I’m happy for you that you have Dan as a friend. Once you have the lithium batteries you’ll be in great shape for your way of life on the road.
Did you charge Dan rent for living in your storage compartment while he did the work?
Dan is proving the value of knowledge. By sharing it. Cat, as Dan says, you really want to go lithium ASAP. But, those batteries need to be very well-protected. Let's just say that lithium and water don't play well together! As for how much power you need, remember the "power" law: P (Watts) = I (Current(Amps)) X Voltage. As an example of the wiring "accessories" need, my 100 watt ham radio shortwave transceiver pulls 20A on transmit. So, I have the wiring (2 conductor #14) for that professionally installed from engine compartment into the luggage area of my car. (Radio is remotely controlled.) Also, watch the grounding! Grounding is super critical. In my case, I have to have additional grounding to prevent "RF feedback" when I'm on-air. Watch how Dan seals everything ujp. And, be ready to maintain those seals as they can deteroriate. This was a great inforfmative video!
They use water-based slurries to make LFP cells. LiFePO4 is stable as the lithium has already reacted to form the compound.
@@posteroonie Is that an economic and viable product for RV use?
@@johnpinckney4979 Yes LFP and LiFePO4 are the same thing, and what the solar/RV industries usually mean when they say "lithium battery". The lithium batteries in EVs are different but much of that industry is transitioning to LFP too, as it's safe, cheap, and doesn't contain cobalt or nickel. The drawbacks are that LFP is heavier and bulkier than those chemistries that catch on fire, and LFP can't be charged below freezing so such use requires self-warming batteries, which uses a bit of their capacity. Cat would want to move her batteries indoors if she uses LFP.
@@posteroonie TNX for adding to my knowledge! Perhaps there's room in that compartment with the inverter for the batteries?
Dan is the kindest man!! Thank you for helping Catherine 👍👍.
Thank you for sharing all of the upgrades. Must be wonderful for the comforts in your new home❤️🥳 Happy Travels🎉
It was my pleasure!
@@ontheroadwithdan5571 Dan, is the double cable of smaller gauge wire crimped together, take the place of a larger single cable? I’ve had a hard time finding heavy gauge wire affordable. I’m doing a 3 000 watt inverter, so want the heaviest I can get, seems heavy duty 1 gauge jumper cables maybe tge way to go? 30’ for $66.00. I only need 8-10 feet but have 2 friends that may use the rest. Thanks Dan
Thank you both for your time making this informative video. Catherine or Dan….in the video you mentioned the microwave was wired differently and would not be included with the inverter power once installed. My question is….where or how did you wire the microwave to tie it into the power inverter system? I am guessing that you might have tied it into an outlet. Just want to pick your brains for information. Lol.
Thank you both.
We just got the same camper and I was wondering the same thing, except I would like to do the fridge
Blessings to Dan for helping Catherine
Hi Catherine ( what's going on Pretty Lady )you are amazing and this video should be kept for any one getting started and this Man should be having his own TH-cam channel I'd subscribe for sure
wow a mid week video!
That battery box is a fire waiting to happen. Tucking negatives under and around positives is an accident waiting to happen.
Please have a professional installer straighten out that mess
Please never look at the wiring in your car or home, it would be very disturbing for you. I was an electrician and I know the electrical code quite well. All throughout your car, the positive and negative wires insulation is touching, literally 100s of feet worth of touching, in your car! The hot and neutral and ground wires throughout your house are are wrapped tightly together. This is very safe and is what the electrical code allows. You car, your house, and Cat's new trailer are all perfectly safe.
One more note, If you read the comments on this video and the solar video, you will see where other electrical professionals all commented on how professional and properly done my installation was. Electricians take great pride on doing things professionally and safely.
@@ontheroadwithdan5571 everyone on the internet is an expert. I am more than a little more than familiar with automotive and RV wiring. I don't feel obligated to measure my prowess with you. I have no way to dipute your claimed credentials, so okay.
In by book it isn't safe with the way the wire is tucked around, lack of directly fusing at the battery. No battery shut off external to the coach. Wow
If it pops I am not the one who will suffer.
Wait a sec your the guy who wired that mess
@@jerrygundrum1 There is not a single RV I have ever owned that the manufacturer has had a fuse at the batteries or a disconnect at the batteries. The governing body RVIA has approved that for RVs for over 20 years. So there are some credentials you can verify! I think you are a little out of your knowledge base on this one. Thanks for your concern.
Dear Cat and Dan😀👍🍀😘 wow, what a great work from one specialist. Nicole and me understand with our broken english a lot of!!!😗🍀very well explained. 👍 Enjoy the updated home, and a bye, bye to Dan 😀warm regards from Nicole and Hardy 🥳😘👍 the grazy Berliner
Wow, he knows his stuff. Very interesting and a great upgrade.
Thank you for the information. Blessings
Ive gone many times to watch the solar install videos. I must say Dan is a great instructor and very good at detailing to the audience . These videos are very helpful . I Hope you can upgrade soon to the Lithium batteries. Check out TH-camr " DIY Solar with Will Prowse " Hes done extensive test and recommendations on Lithium batteries
This is very helpful Catherine! I just bought renogy as well. I bought the same as you, 400 watt of solar and 2 lithium batteries. I’ll be adding to my lance 990 truck camper.
transfer switch is NOT necessary if you buy a good inverter.. for example PowMR 3000w 24v all in one.. takes shore/generator power in, AND PV solar in .. and can prioritize what it uses.. as well as allowing bypass to power everything from grid as well as charging the batteries at the same time.. its a 500.00 inverter and is amazing.. i have it setup in my 36ft pioneer.. with 1kw of solar panels, and 2x 200ah 12v lifep04 in series for 24v .. all told was under 2200.00 and mine is installed in that same storage area up front :)
Hey Cat, how is your inverter holding up? I saw this a long time ago, just following up to see if it held up. I tried a Renogy 3,000 watt but it was DOA, so sent it back. Now I want to make a portable power station with 3 x 100 amp hour batteries and 3,000 watt, if you had good success with yours since you depend on it daily
If my inverter on off switch has a basic built-in battery monitor do I need to add a separate more advanced battery monitor?
Your video talks about running outlets and the microwave. When traveling, could it also run the refrigerator (instead of using propane)?
Many Thanks for sharing the knowledge 🙏 Much Love ❤️
I am having an issue with my 2023 mini! 😢
Everything was fine until the 3rd day.
We aren’t getting any power unless hooked up to shore power. We usually like to camp by the lake with the kids, so boon-docking is very very important to us. We are taking it for service but it’s taking a long time since they are all booked. Please help
I have a 3000w inverter, (Renogy) and I have a 30amp plug wired in the front of it which I can plug my Trailer into, you do need to turn off you battery charger/breaker, with my 300ah battery I can run everything except the ac, 200w on the roof top keeps my battery charged up, great video for someone who is thinking about do this, thanks for showing how to do it...
Cat, did Dan consider just mounting the inverter hooked to the batteries with a 30 amp plug, hard wired in, where you can just plug in the cord on the camper? That way you don’t need a transfer switch, and when you plug it in, everything in the camper that will run with the 2,000 watt inverter will be powered up. Happy camping!
Good job dan I just added two more solar panels to the top of my Harley trailer so I have a total of 500 W going into my truck and trailer now ok 👌🏼🔥🤠🔥Camping Russ out
Thanks for the great video - I have a similar configuration (pre-wire) in my Keystone trailer. I'm curious what y'all did to get the microwave onto the inverter side. I would like to eventually get my microwave and AC both powered by the inverter, but obviously don't want to have a loop with the converter. Manual converter bypass seems like the easiest solution. Anyone have recommendations?
It was so weird to see you wearing jeans. Glad to know that you do wear normal human clothing sometimes. Though hiking clothes are usually more comfy.
Great video! I didn't see or hear anything about sizing your batteries. In order to run an inverter like yours, 2000 watt. The the amp hour of total battery size needs to be at least 10% of the inverter output. IE: min. 200 amp hour battery output.
I would suggest a 80 amp fuse for the inverter, 190 amp is prettty high up. Depending on what your using of course . But those wire will get pretty hot with 190 amps
Have same inverter works great 👍
I just hard wired an outlet on the outside of my camper and plug into my 50amp outon the camper. Now runs everything even one of my 15k ac units with a soft start .
Nice job Dan! So neatly laid out and very well assembled. Catherine will enjoy your expertise for many, many years.
Finally! The info I need to tackle the inverter properly. After watching way too many vids, this one informs me far better than all the others regarding the inverter install.
So helpful ! Just enough of an overview. Was I the only one shocked when he said the manufacturer used wiring 1/4 the size needed on the batteries. ?
I have been trying to understand this install for two years now. I just don't get it. Electronics and I live in mutual exclusive domains.
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Hi Cat, Is your Renogy inverter still working ok? I tried one that was dead out of the box, thinking of trying again since Renogy seems to be decent quality at a fair price
Thanks for the video! I'm looking to do something similar. It looks like you didn't ground the inverter case, any concerns there?
2000W!
Only 2 wires from the inveter to the transfer switch?
Liked your video very much. I'm very interested in solar systems for campers and van life.
Thank you so much for the video. I got a new camper and I'm wanting to have solar added to it plus it inverter and I'm still wanting to stay the Lead batteries because I can afford lithium batteries yet. Plus I need to do some research to see if my converter is compatible. With your video that tells me that I can't still do a lot of hardware installation and still stay on the lead batteries until I'm ready for lithium. I was doing my research so I wouldn't waste my money and have to have things redone. Tell Dan hello for me and tell him I appreciate him helping you in doing the video.
Thank yo ufor this! keystone does not provide any real tangiable information to it's owners on how to hook this stuff up. thanks for the video!
So, I was listening to a RV specialist on youtube and he said that a butt load of manufacturers has a recall coming out in July. Your brand and a whole host of others are going to get a letter. It had to do with your connection to your propane, the fitting is known to crack and leak.
Installation looks good except for the inverter fuse is supposed to be at the battery. If the positive inverter lead were to short at the through-trailer penetration, you'd have extreme current & heat & could melt cables & cause a fire. I see this a lot on you tube channels & is incorrect installation.
Hey Kat. I'm in Utah. I would love to meet up with you. It is so beautiful. I'm glad you were able to get solar power.
Great Video. Only cautionary comment I would make is Dan has the fuse in the wrong location. That large fuse he placed at the inverter should be as close as possible to the batteries. I noticed in a shot at 11:25 that the positive cables come straight off the battery and go into the trailer. If there is a short anywhere between the positive lug and that fuse, it will absolutely melt and possibly catch fire.
Wow!! What a cool guy!! Dan the teacher man. Ok, it's taco Tuesday 🌮 Time for lunch. Have a great day! Cheers
Thank you thank you thank you for all that information it really makes me understand what it needs to be done I have the same setup with a Coachmen 23 ft I need to find me a good reliable source like you have with your friend thank you so much
Glad ur setup - enjoy it, good luck Rembrandt.
That was one of the most informative travel trailer upgrade videos I have ever seen. Although our Springdale trailer already has an inverter, at least I now know the components that went into it. And the solar interface will be really handy to know about when we go to install solar panels in the future. Thanks much!
I enjoyed Dan's thorough overview very much. Last August I bought a brand new Sunray 115 (a small teardrop-like trailer) to pull behind my Subaru Outback. A gentleman I know set up more solar panels and installed the controller; so grateful to him.
Anyway, I have always been in awe of the knowledge so very many men have. My father and my life long love, both of whom have passed away, were brilliant men. I have such respect for men with profound know-how like Dan.
Thank you Kathy. I'm glad I could help Cat.
It`s a shame you didn`t get a 24-power inverter they only use half the amperage
@Catherine will you kindly add to the amazon list the battery shunt and the 20a breaker, tia!