If this happen on a Russian or Chinese Carrier they would be calling it junk for the aircraft and ship but since it was a NATO ship and aircraft it is "Hey Things Happen!"
@ should it not be what he implied is fact? He is saying what we would say about the incident if it’s Russian or Chinese, and not ourselves.. and you proved him correct so endearingly. Maybe we should get another carrier, so that if one is unable to go on an exercise, and one has to turn back, we still have another!
@@squirepraggerstope3591 . Shouldn’t it be what he is implying is fact? He is saying what some of us would say about the incident if it’s Russian or Chinese, and not ourselves.. and you proved him correct so endearingly. Maybe we should get another carrier.. so if one is unable to go on an exercise, and one has to turn back, we still have another!
The pictures are fun but the actual amount of information is close to zero. The aircraft crashed because the left intake blanking plug was not removed. It is possible the plug was dislodged and hard to see, especially in prevailing light conditions. Nevertheless it was a procedural error. The pilot did not see the blanking plug on his walk-round inspection. Nor did any of the see-off crew. The nail in the coffin was the run-up distance. The aircraft was position at the 350 foot mark rather than the 550 foot mark. The pilot almost succeeded in aborting the takeoff, and had he started from the 550 foot mark would almost certainly have succeeded. There was nothing wrong with the aircraft itself. The pilot landed on the carrier's deck and due to an overabundance of caution was eventually taken off the ship for an on-land MRI scan. Frankly, reading the report, there were many lessons to be learnt from this incident. None of which is conveyed in this dismal video.
The left intake cover was left lying inside the port intake of the F135 by maintenance crews who were working on the aircraft on the flight deck overnight during night crew and mid crew.
Just such a surprise that the QE and PW have any aircraft on at all. It just shows the lunacy of building large carriers without catapults and sufficient adaptability for both current and future jet aircraft designs.
Training covers every foreseeable incident but in carrier operations one cannot cover everything, I am the living proof of this in 1967 I was a fireman on HMS Hermes in a non diversion incident when I sufferred life changing injuries. No matter what, flight deck operations have been, are, and always will be the most dangerous one can work on, but I have no regrets it's the most satisfying, exciting and best job in the pusser FLY NAVY!!!
How does it go, Drills, Drills, Drills - I can recall on old jets anything (cover, etc.) that had to be removed before flight had a sodding great big red flag on it. All had to be accounted for by the crew chief before clearance given for flight.
In this case an engine blank that should have been removed before take off was not spotted and was not removed. The pilot received no warning from the F35 that the thrust was compromised. As the plane started its take off run the pilot noticed the lack of thrust and ejected. The Martin Baker seat he was on was a Zero Zero seat meaning it can be operated ar zero speed and zero altitude. Since the accident extra measures have been put in place to ensure blanks are accounted for. However you would have thought tgat the F35 should have detected low tgrust and warned the pilot.
Working on a prop rotor gearbox for testing a guy from the transmission assembly building asked to use or fixture for installing the planetary. A guy said "you need to find yours!" He was in a hurry but found it on a major test with bell Boeing people watching. The Chip detector showed it was inside the gearbox.
speaking as an aircraft engine runner of [too] many years to mention, blanks have been left in before, and yes the pilot will get indications there is something wrong, low power and probably high temp, it could be the cover was not immediately sucked in - the F35 having 2 intakes and one engine, it was probably not noticeable at lower power but as the pilot accelerated the blank was pulled down to the compressor and the engine could no longer 'breathe, therefore going off the front of the carrier, due to carelessness and bad procedures!
"The pilot received no warning from the F35 that the thrust was compromised."(sic) Incorrect "As the plane started its take off run the pilot noticed the lack of thrust and ejected."(sic) The pilot aborted the takeoff and attempted to stop the aircraft. Unable to do so he ejected at the top of the ski jump before ZM152 rolled off and into the Mediterranean.
@@newton18311 Personally i think that was pilot error because he is the one that is going to fly the plane so if he went around for a last check he wouldn't have missed the engine cover that went into the engine, i hear the private sector checks there planes so why not them.
@@mickrap6001 at least 2 people contributed to the loss of the aircraft and perhaps the color of the covers. Why the deck crew unmounted the cover but left it lying in the inlet is inexplicable. Then the pilot went by and didn't see it lying in the inlet.
If the pilot could press a button to release the ejector seat from a high altitude, and another to deploy an inflatable ball to cocoon himself, he could remain dry.
It happened because someone inadvertently left a red protective engine intake plug in place. I suspect a more rigorous pre-take-off checks procedure to preclude any similar error is now in place.
Btw, the attempted unfavourable comparison with a CATOBAR launch in which the plane has also inadvertently had an intake plug left in place, is obvious drivel. Both planes would lose power shortly after throttling up and the only real difference is if a CATOBAR takeoff had already begun, the plane would certainly just be catapulted straight into the sea. While re a STOVL launch with a significant take-off run it's feasible that if the problem manifested itself early enough, the pilot may still be able to successfully abort the launch and halt the aircraft before it ran over the end of the Ski Jump.
The cause of the accident was that before takeoff, the front wheels came off, and the plane knelt on the takeoff deck. The findings were that the front wheel was made and fitted in India.
And when I watched the (BBC?) documentary on the QE carriers, so much time was taken promoting LGBT and woke shite, plus relationships on board, parties etc, that I became bored and totally disillusioned with the state of the RN. I was hoping that the program would give me a patriotic pride. It certainly did not. In fact, having watched the documentary, I’m not surprised that this crash happened. Everyone seemed to have their eye off the ball. Just saying.
@ what’s your reference for that? If that were true, the US super carriers would have the launch ramp instead of the catapult. Even so, it doesn’t matter because you can launch without full tanks and then hit the tanker before heading to your strike or patrol area.
it shouldn't even have these aircraft, the f35b is the worst of the f35's...its the most expensive, it hasn't had any upgrades and none are planned, the f35c (carrier version) is faster, better stealth. has more range, can carry more different weapons, has a heavier weapons load, better avionics and costs less with 4 major upgrades already applied to this date with more planned .... we may have been able to have a full load out for one carrier instead of just 18 max planes available
Such kind of things are usually happen../ In any ARMY... Including UK's One... So, it is better for everyone not to mock about others similar incidents!
@@OrionsMako i know pilots who have ejected 3 times, yes it can compress their spine so they are actually a little shorter - technology on ejection seats has marched on like all things. it can in extreme circumstances damage a pilots spine but it is very rare these days!
Surely a longer take off would give pilot more time to realise if he didn’t have take off speed , it’s not like the deck was full of planes, so I think they are causing there own problems
Operator failure, an intake bung was left in and not seen during walkround check, resulting in not generating enough power. The bungs have since been re designed.
I tried getting a copy of the official footage, rather than the crappy leaked stuff. The 'Denial' letter i recieved was diabolical and i couldn't even make sence of the convoluted 'Legalese' talk.
These muppets have engineers and scientists that have initiated a huge amount of the modern technology. Check the history of flight in a non-American history book. French/British Concorde pioneered Supersonic commercial travel. Main routes London/Paris to New York. Americans got scared to fly because the jet was 'unsafe', after reports of the Paris crash. Caused by a srip of metal falling off an american jet, lefty on the runway. Also check out how many of the 'American' scientists are really American? Note the importation of former Nazi scientists into the US space program. Arrogance beyond belief.
Ultimately the error of not spotting an engine inlet vent cover falls squarely on the pilots shoulders. Every pilot carries out a preflight check & I believe complacency most likely caused this failure. It is the pilots life that is on the line & they have to bear responsibility for all aspects of the aircraft & not just flight. 🫡
What a load of bollocks. Little or no real information, too much repetition & so poorly researched a 5 year old could have done as well. And it's not like the information on the how & why it happened & the resultant change in procedures is hard to find. In short, engine plug missed in night time inspection as it was too far in the intake, missed on pre flight walk around for same reason. Insufficient thrust for take off & take off run shorter than usual, hence failure to be able to stop. Part of remedy is the use of a torch without red filter to check engine intakes at night (as plugs are red & don't show up well with red light).
The F35 is probably good as a strike aircraft but in the air superiority role against an enemy who is equally technically advanced maybe not as good as others. The slightly older twin engine F22 is faster and has been doing air superiority and would still outfly a F35. The USA have had stealth aircraft for years the Russians and Chinese already have their stealth fighters the British, Japanese and a few others are developing and building their own while Israel has built the F35 under licence and done modifications and installed it's own military systems on board. It is too early to judge performances until stealth aircraft from opposing sides face each other in one on one air combat such like it was in the old days F86 vs Mig 15 in the Korean War or Spitfire vs Messerschmitt 109 in WW2. The aircraft could be crap in a air battle in performances only superior individual piloting skill could save the day and return the aircraft and pilot home safe so there can be upgrades.
The F35 is primarily a strike fighter not an air defence fighter. BTW "air superiority" is a state of affairs not a role. That is a very Vietnam era term and redundant now. For example, the F16 can perform very well in the strike role and also in the air defence role. But you wouldn't call an F16 a bomber, would you ?
The F35 is brilliant provide a) it fights within it's very limited combat range and b) it doesn't get into a close-quarters fight with a jet that has thrust vectoring. Note that in specific scenarios, involving close-in fighting, even the mighty F-22 can be defeated by a Typhoon II. The trick is to prevent the enemy from getting too close. In terms of air superiority, comparing the F-22 with the F-35 is pointless. These aircraft serve completely different roles.
Perhaps the F35's should have been built with 2 engines? The RN carriers could have been and could be retro fitted with an angled flight deck. Equipped with catapults. The other advantage of this modernization would be the capability to launch other none VTOL aircraft. Perhaps retiring the Harriers was a too hasty of a decision? I think so.
@@martinishot Incorrect. Harrier losses Falklands 4 May Sea Harrier 800 Squadron 35mm ground fire 6 May 2 Sea Harriers 801 Squadron mid air collision 21 May GR3 1F Squadron Blowpipe SAM 23 May Sea Harrier 800 Squadron crash on takeoff 27 May GR3 1F Squadron 35mm ground fire 29 May Sea Harrier 801 Squadron slid off deck 30 May GR3 1F Squadron hit by small arms fire fuel starvation 1 June Sea Harrier 801 Squadron Roland SAM 8 June GR3 1F Squadron heavy landing written off
@@Thenogomogo-zo3un "I know Harriers carried alot of water too."(sic) 50 imperial gallons of distilled water. "not sure about F35's"(sic) The F135 does not require water injection to prevent overheating.
Technology failed because it's was copy in Soviet technology. Original technology in Soviet was observed but technology innovated. F-35 origin technology from Soviet time
in India, the Rafale demonstrated that it could also take off from a ramp LOL with Dassault, no need for F35, this plane is so crappy!! several hundred failures!!
14 min of non stop talk, bla, bla bla, (is this especially an american thing ?) , get to the point man ! Like others I just skipped video an looked at the comments, human error.
Indeed, Its also worth mentioning the Martin Baker ejection seat, invented, tested and developed in Great Briton and it has saved thousands of plots lives all around the world and again worked perfectly during this incident saving the pilots life. The aircraft the ejection seat was fitted to was made in America by Lockheed Martin.
Maybe investing in pro-life equipment, equipment for farming for example would be of better use vs death machines. AND defunding the lying azz media too would help...
Incorrect. It was a lack of supervision and proper SOP by the maintainers and pilots of RAF No. 617 Squadron. VMFA-211 was embarked aboard the QE at the same time and didn't engage in the same complacency and lack of discipline.
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧...what went wrong ??? ...hmmm...neverminding how stupid is looking the F - 35 with that hatch open during the take-off ...i would say since when the inside traitors managed to kill off the Sea Harrier...😮😮😮
You need a whole new jet,jet design for that type carrier or try to adopt some type of jet sling or jet sling design.the sling don't hav to go all the way only just enough so the plane can take off with proper speed.btw pretty cool carrier.
@@mattblack9069 no, the covers for the side inlets. One was unmounted but still in the inlet and forgotten and missed by the pilot. A stupid reason to lose such an expensive aircraft.
fitch the F35 B. for bring excesdivrly vomplex snd get the haeker hsrrier. the F35B is mot steslthymif it is carrying the same weapon load as the harrier csn. so it is a pointless expense for the Uzk tacpsyer
Problem will be inferior American technologies / manufacturing. It will always be a lesser aircraft compared to our amazing Sea Harriers. British designed and built.
@francescxavierbulto9848 All harriers lost in the falklands were due to a crash unrelated to enemy fire. An unbelievably difficult and dangerous aircraft to fly. You are just too much of a coward to research and Learn this.
some one left a cover on , one of the air intakes . and they don't rise up we take of like normal air craft craft . better than flying f35 with out a pilot and cant find it because its too stealthy lol witch really happened in America.
@@tyethebalder5666 When those planes are taking off from the British aircraft carrier, why is the canopy not closed? Why was it open and up? That could’ve caused excess drag. On American carriers, all planes are closed up before takeoff, catapults or not, in order to prevent excess drag, especially if a plane takes off against the headwind. That crash could just as easily have been caused because of pilot error or something unseen on the deck before take off. So never make an assumption about something just because of who or where it was made. IMHO, that just sounds inflammatory, insulting and derogatory.
@@tyethebalder5666 One more thing: you really should work on your grammar and spelling. Your comment was filled with grammatical, spelling and usage errors.
The plane doesn't know the person flying it is, "Some girl" and if she wants it to kill you it will kill you just as dead as if a bloke is flying it. So what point is it you're failing to make?
The FRONT WHEEL LEG APPEARS to have collapsed after the Hitting the ramp angle. IF NOT HOW did the fuselage become SO CLOSE to the top ramp EDGE and the underbelly hit the ramp top and bits flew off the Fuse before the jet got to the end.
If this happen on a Russian or Chinese Carrier they would be calling it junk for the aircraft and ship but since it was a NATO ship and aircraft it is "Hey Things Happen!"
True, but that is indeed the objective reality anyway.
@@squirepraggerstope3591, LoL! You just proved him right.
@@madsam0320 Absolutely. What he meant to imply is total drivel but what he said, is simply demonstrable fact.
@ should it not be what he implied is fact? He is saying what we would say about the incident if it’s Russian or Chinese, and not ourselves.. and you proved him correct so endearingly.
Maybe we should get another carrier, so that if one is unable to go on an exercise, and one has to turn back, we still have another!
@@squirepraggerstope3591 . Shouldn’t it be what he is implying is fact? He is saying what some of us would say about the incident if it’s Russian or Chinese, and not ourselves.. and you proved him correct so endearingly.
Maybe we should get another carrier.. so if one is unable to go on an exercise, and one has to turn back, we still have another!
I got so frustrated waiting to find out wtf happened, I just skipped to the comments - thx guys, well overblown video!
The pictures are fun but the actual amount of information is close to zero. The aircraft crashed because the left intake blanking plug was not removed. It is possible the plug was dislodged and hard to see, especially in prevailing light conditions. Nevertheless it was a procedural error. The pilot did not see the blanking plug on his walk-round inspection. Nor did any of the see-off crew. The nail in the coffin was the run-up distance. The aircraft was position at the 350 foot mark rather than the 550 foot mark. The pilot almost succeeded in aborting the takeoff, and had he started from the 550 foot mark would almost certainly have succeeded. There was nothing wrong with the aircraft itself. The pilot landed on the carrier's deck and due to an overabundance of caution was eventually taken off the ship for an on-land MRI scan. Frankly, reading the report, there were many lessons to be learnt from this incident. None of which is conveyed in this dismal video.
The left intake cover was left lying inside the port intake of the F135 by maintenance crews who were working on the aircraft on the flight deck overnight during night crew and mid crew.
@@AA-xo9uw Thank you for exact reason there was a problem.
Thank you for the correct information.
Just such a surprise that the QE and PW have any aircraft on at all. It just shows the lunacy of building large carriers without catapults and sufficient adaptability for both current and future jet aircraft designs.
you don't know much about aircraft carriers do you.
A classic example of verbal diarrhea, the facts could have been stated in 10% of the time, too much repetition.
The crash happened because some idiot left the cowling cover on the engine intake.
Correct, the pilot gets a tie from Martin Baker and the deck crewman got tied to the anchor.
I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned in the video
@@declanbrady5172 the video is a waste of time
Incorrect. What was not removed was much smaller and harder to spot. But I won’t elaborate here.
@@Hillsidedojo the cover was unmounted but inexplicably left in the inlet. Why didn't the deck crew take it with them?
Training covers every foreseeable incident but in carrier operations one cannot cover everything, I am the living proof of this in 1967 I was a fireman on HMS Hermes in a non diversion incident when I sufferred life changing injuries. No matter what, flight deck operations have been, are, and always will be the most dangerous one can work on, but I have no regrets it's the most satisfying, exciting and best job in the pusser FLY NAVY!!!
When procedures not followed through correctly . Havoc will ensue . Glad no one got hurt ,
How does it go, Drills, Drills, Drills - I can recall on old jets anything (cover, etc.) that had to be removed before flight had a sodding great big red flag on it. All had to be accounted for by the crew chief before clearance given for flight.
In this case an engine blank that should have been removed before take off was not spotted and was not removed. The pilot received no warning from the F35 that the thrust was compromised. As the plane started its take off run the pilot noticed the lack of thrust and ejected. The Martin Baker seat he was on was a Zero Zero seat meaning it can be operated ar zero speed and zero altitude. Since the accident extra measures have been put in place to ensure blanks are accounted for. However you would have thought tgat the F35 should have detected low tgrust and warned the pilot.
Working on a prop rotor gearbox for testing a guy from the transmission assembly building asked to use or fixture for installing the planetary. A guy said "you need to find yours!" He was in a hurry but found it on a major test with bell Boeing people watching. The Chip detector showed it was inside the gearbox.
speaking as an aircraft engine runner of [too] many years to mention, blanks have been left in before, and yes the pilot will get indications there is something wrong, low power and probably high temp, it could be the cover was not immediately sucked in - the F35 having 2 intakes and one engine, it was probably not noticeable at lower power but as the pilot accelerated the blank was pulled down to the compressor and the engine could no longer 'breathe, therefore going off the front of the carrier, due to carelessness and bad procedures!
"The pilot received no warning from the F35 that the thrust was compromised."(sic)
Incorrect
"As the plane started its take off run the pilot noticed the lack of thrust and ejected."(sic)
The pilot aborted the takeoff and attempted to stop the aircraft. Unable to do so he ejected at the top of the ski jump before ZM152 rolled off and into the Mediterranean.
From the video, looks like he accidentally raised the landing gear. Hahahahaahah engine cover. Hahaha lol
@hangtownflyer4678 pogue
One minute video crammed onto 15 minutes.
Think this this is a F35 problem not a aircraft carrier problem. SMH
It was ,it was proved. Crap Aeroplane
@@newton18311 Personally i think that was pilot error because he is the one that is going to fly the plane so if he went around for a last check he wouldn't have missed the engine cover that went into the engine, i hear the private sector checks there planes so why not them.
I think it's a British problem.
@@mickrap6001 at least 2 people contributed to the loss of the aircraft and perhaps the color of the covers. Why the deck crew unmounted the cover but left it lying in the inlet is inexplicable. Then the pilot went by and didn't see it lying in the inlet.
Incorrect
I think that pilot has lost his no claims bonus, next years insurance premium is going to be huge!😂🤣😂
If the pilot could press a button to release the ejector seat from a high altitude, and another to deploy an inflatable ball to cocoon himself, he could remain dry.
It happened because someone inadvertently left a red protective engine intake plug in place. I suspect a more rigorous pre-take-off checks procedure to preclude any similar error is now in place.
the UK has become a burden, from the aircraft carrier to their pilots, compare it with French or Italian. UK is years behind.
Does,anybody remember the the fire on the Oriskany. That fire went out of control very quickly.
If anything is changed...let it be the A/C There is nothing wrong W/ the ship.
If there is an issue with propulsion the jet will kick the pilot out. He doesn't have to do anything but hold on!
you've said the same things about 5 times and I wasn't even halfway through the video yet, and I still don't know what the "then this happened" was...
Planes are cheap compared to the life of a pilot.
Cheaper to train a pilot than buy a new F35 I suspect.
The UK is the 3rd Highest holder of American debt. With nearly 700 billion dollars of it. Don't need China holding it all.
Japan is number one
Contrary to the waffle, modern ejector seats are effective even at ground level and even when the aircraft is stationary
$100 million plus in the drink!
Btw, the attempted unfavourable comparison with a CATOBAR launch in which the plane has also inadvertently had an intake plug left in place, is obvious drivel. Both planes would lose power shortly after throttling up and the only real difference is if a CATOBAR takeoff had already begun, the plane would certainly just be catapulted straight into the sea. While re a STOVL launch with a significant take-off run it's feasible that if the problem manifested itself early enough, the pilot may still be able to successfully abort the launch and halt the aircraft before it ran over the end of the Ski Jump.
No worries as F35 as usual can turn into submarines. 😂
Are the repairs to the shaft completed?
Wow.... High Tech fr usa LM 👍👍👍
The cause of the accident was that before takeoff, the front wheels came off, and the plane knelt on the takeoff deck. The findings were that the front wheel was made and fitted in India.
And when I watched the (BBC?) documentary on the QE carriers, so much time was taken promoting LGBT and woke shite, plus relationships on board, parties etc, that I became bored and totally disillusioned with the state of the RN. I was hoping that the program would give me a patriotic pride. It certainly did not.
In fact, having watched the documentary, I’m not surprised that this crash happened. Everyone seemed to have their eye off the ball. Just saying.
Why don’t they use the vertical takeoff capability instead of using that stupid ramp?
In training both are acceptable in combat the ski jump system allow much larger weapons loadouts when needed not as good as a catapult system.
@ what’s your reference for that? If that were true, the US super carriers would have the launch ramp instead of the catapult. Even so, it doesn’t matter because you can launch without full tanks and then hit the tanker before heading to your strike or patrol area.
Thanks.
it shouldn't even have these aircraft, the f35b is the worst of the f35's...its the most expensive, it hasn't had any upgrades and none are planned, the f35c (carrier version) is faster, better stealth. has more range, can carry more different weapons, has a heavier weapons load, better avionics and costs less with 4 major upgrades already applied to this date with more planned .... we may have been able to have a full load out for one carrier instead of just 18 max planes available
Super computers, advanced this and thats, no matter what "RAMA RAMA DING DING, SH*T HAPPENS"
Royal navy itself....a disaster 😂😂😂
Accidents do happen.!
And the PiLot ejected so, just the cost of Aircraft which part maybe salvaged .👏
What’s the flap thing behind the cockpit?
The intake for the vertical lift engine.
@@firefly8464 Not an engine. It is a fan driven by a shaft from the one and only engine.
"f*rt flap"
Lift fan cover.
Dust bin lid.
Such kind of things are usually happen../ In any ARMY... Including UK's One... So, it is better for everyone not to mock about others similar incidents!
Ramp safer than Catapult
I wonder if the pilot is too injured to fly and are they taken care of if so?
would would he be injured?
@brianpreval5602 from what I heard, those ejections can damage their spine to the point of not being fit to fly.
@@OrionsMako i know pilots who have ejected 3 times, yes it can compress their spine so they are actually a little shorter - technology on ejection seats has marched on like all things. it can in extreme circumstances damage a pilots spine but it is very rare these days!
Pilot returned to flight status shortly after the mishap.
Surely a longer take off would give pilot more time to realise if he didn’t have take off speed , it’s not like the deck was full of planes, so I think they are causing there own problems
Let's face it. God has decided the British are long overdue for their comeuppance.
We should have spent our money on redesigning and upgrading our harrier fleet rather than buy the f35b.
Exactly the same if you had steam catapults on it no difference aircraft engine failure it’s going down
Operator failure, an intake bung was left in and not seen during walkround check, resulting in not generating enough power. The bungs have since been re designed.
Walk softly and carry a big stick!
A cover of some type had been left in the engine
The cover was left lying inside the port intake not inside the engine itself.
On this video, I was expecting info re the crash. Instead, we just get a lot of waffle. Rubbish.
I tried getting a copy of the official footage, rather than the crappy leaked stuff. The 'Denial' letter i recieved was diabolical and i couldn't even make sence of the convoluted 'Legalese' talk.
That’s because you’re an irrelevant nobody mate.
This plane is a super expensive brick!
I agree - should have stuck with the good old British Spitfire.
these muppets can't even handle Brexit and you expect them to fly a plane?? LOL.
These muppets have engineers and scientists that have initiated a huge amount of the modern technology. Check the history of flight in a non-American history book. French/British Concorde pioneered Supersonic commercial travel. Main routes London/Paris to New York. Americans got scared to fly because the jet was 'unsafe', after reports of the Paris crash. Caused by a srip of metal falling off an american jet, lefty on the runway. Also check out how many of the 'American' scientists are really American? Note the importation of former Nazi scientists into the US space program. Arrogance beyond belief.
Too much procrastination
Ultimately the error of not spotting an engine inlet vent cover falls squarely on the pilots shoulders. Every pilot carries out a preflight check & I believe complacency most likely caused this failure. It is the pilots life that is on the line & they have to bear responsibility for all aspects of the aircraft & not just flight. 🫡
3 years ago. 😂
I think the pilot got his brake pedal mixed up with his clutch !😃😃
What a load of bollocks. Little or no real information, too much repetition & so poorly researched a 5 year old could have done as well. And it's not like the information on the how & why it happened & the resultant change in procedures is hard to find. In short, engine plug missed in night time inspection as it was too far in the intake, missed on pre flight walk around for same reason. Insufficient thrust for take off & take off run shorter than usual, hence failure to be able to stop. Part of remedy is the use of a torch without red filter to check engine intakes at night (as plugs are red & don't show up well with red light).
so much money wasted .... take back Sea Harrier ! or french Rafale !!!
A complete waste of time this video. All it is doing is waffling and not even covering what actually happened.
AH AH AH AH AH !!!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The F35 is probably good as a strike aircraft but in the air superiority role against an enemy who is equally technically advanced maybe not as good as others.
The slightly older twin engine F22 is faster and has been doing air superiority and would still outfly a F35.
The USA have had stealth aircraft for years the Russians and Chinese already have their stealth fighters the British, Japanese and a few others are developing and building their own while Israel has built the F35 under licence and done modifications and installed it's own military systems on board.
It is too early to judge performances until stealth aircraft from opposing sides face each other in one on one air combat such like it was in the old days F86 vs Mig 15 in the Korean War or Spitfire vs Messerschmitt 109 in WW2.
The aircraft could be crap in a air battle in performances only superior individual piloting skill could save the day and return the aircraft and pilot home safe so there can be upgrades.
Exactly! It’s not the plane, it’s the pilot (Top Gun: Maverick reference) Just saying.
The F35 is primarily a strike fighter not an air defence fighter.
BTW "air superiority" is a state of affairs not a role.
That is a very Vietnam era term and redundant now.
For example, the F16 can perform very well in the strike role and also in the air defence role. But you wouldn't call an F16 a bomber, would you ?
The F35 is brilliant provide a) it fights within it's very limited combat range and b) it doesn't get into a close-quarters fight with a jet that has thrust vectoring. Note that in specific scenarios, involving close-in fighting, even the mighty F-22 can be defeated by a Typhoon II. The trick is to prevent the enemy from getting too close. In terms of air superiority, comparing the F-22 with the F-35 is pointless. These aircraft serve completely different roles.
Pilots and ships v missiles and drones. Which side would you choose to be on?
You you stretched out three minutes of content in the 14
Perhaps the F35's should have been built with 2 engines? The RN carriers could have been and could be retro fitted with an angled flight deck. Equipped with catapults. The other advantage of this modernization would be the capability to launch other none VTOL aircraft. Perhaps retiring the Harriers was a too hasty of a decision? I think so.
In the Falklands war more Harriers were lost from being so dangerous to fly than being hit by the enemy.
"Perhaps the F35's should have been built with 2 engines?"(sic)
No
@@martinishot Incorrect.
Harrier losses Falklands
4 May Sea Harrier 800 Squadron 35mm ground fire
6 May 2 Sea Harriers 801 Squadron mid air collision
21 May GR3 1F Squadron Blowpipe SAM
23 May Sea Harrier 800 Squadron crash on takeoff
27 May GR3 1F Squadron 35mm ground fire
29 May Sea Harrier 801 Squadron slid off deck
30 May GR3 1F Squadron hit by small arms fire fuel starvation
1 June Sea Harrier 801 Squadron Roland SAM
8 June GR3 1F Squadron heavy landing written off
@@AA-xo9uw Four of your examples perfectly illustrate how unbelievably difficult it was to fly the harrier Safely.
@@martinishot The point that "keith" was wrong sailed right over your grape as well as his.
Seems like there is no catapult.
Самолёт у клоунов с западными технологиями упал в воду и превратился в подводную лодку!😂
Why don't they take off vertically like when landing?
Fuel takes a lot for vertical take off. Also take off weight is very limited on vertical take off
I know Harriers carried alot of water too. not sure about F35's
@@Thenogomogo-zo3un "I know Harriers carried alot of water too."(sic)
50 imperial gallons of distilled water.
"not sure about F35's"(sic)
The F135 does not require water injection to prevent overheating.
Technology failed because it's was copy in Soviet technology. Original technology in Soviet was observed but technology innovated. F-35 origin technology from Soviet time
in India, the Rafale demonstrated that it could also take off from a ramp LOL with Dassault, no need for F35, this plane is so crappy!! several hundred failures!!
This is standard F35 take off procedure - get used to it! :)))))))))
So now the Royal Navy has only one working F35 and three operational pilots left, they'd better take good care of them.
DEI fcuknut failing to remove an engine blank..!
14 min of non stop talk, bla, bla bla, (is this especially an american thing ?) , get to the point man ! Like others I just skipped video an looked at the comments, human error.
The British navy alone is capable of defeating Russia!
Ww2 vs Germany ring a bell. Now alone vs Russia you say ?? Don't think so.
The best of British
Indeed, Its also worth mentioning the Martin Baker ejection seat, invented, tested and developed in Great Briton and it has saved thousands of plots lives all around the world and again worked perfectly during this incident saving the pilots life. The aircraft the ejection seat was fitted to was made in America by Lockheed Martin.
son muy amargos---soy incha de Barce
Maybe investing in pro-life equipment, equipment for farming for example would be of better use vs death machines. AND defunding the lying azz media too would help...
@@LastFirst-k8x do you think farming equipment would stop Putin?
Se si schiantato da ferno figurianoci
Unless it's properganda
Waffle, prattle, ramble, babble.
Yes it was an American F35B aircraft problem not an aircraft carrier problem - simples.
Incorrect. It was a lack of supervision and proper SOP by the maintainers and pilots of RAF No. 617 Squadron. VMFA-211 was embarked aboard the QE at the same time and didn't engage in the same complacency and lack of discipline.
All depends on the Americans, we are only consumer of theirs military hardware and our military is too tiny for such R&D.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
slap verhaal.
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧...what went wrong ??? ...hmmm...neverminding how stupid is looking the F - 35 with that hatch open during the take-off ...i would say since when the inside traitors managed to kill off the Sea Harrier...😮😮😮
That looks realy cool that makes the F35 a Sea Plane😊
You need a whole new jet,jet design for that type carrier or try to adopt some type of jet sling or jet sling design.the sling don't hav to go all the way only just enough so the plane can take off with proper speed.btw pretty cool carrier.
Go funny junk
Loool
And we are the best navy in the world!!!😂
Definitely a lack of power problem and a pilot problem
Yeah, the engine sucking in the cover that was supposed to be removed will do that
@@MotoroidARFC It is raised automatically I believe, prior to actual take off.
@@mattblack9069 no, the covers for the side inlets. One was unmounted but still in the inlet and forgotten and missed by the pilot. A stupid reason to lose such an expensive aircraft.
@@MotoroidARFC Yes of course correct, cheers
@@mattblack9069 Incorrect
fitch the F35 B. for bring excesdivrly vomplex snd get the haeker hsrrier. the F35B is mot steslthymif it is carrying the same weapon load as the harrier csn. so it is a pointless expense for the Uzk tacpsyer
Think your keyboard's gone dyslexic on you
Problem will be inferior American technologies / manufacturing. It will always be a lesser aircraft compared to our amazing Sea Harriers. British designed and built.
LOL
@@Sgt_Bill_T_Co Tell the US Marines to "LOL". They seem to be still enjoying the approx 200 they still have on the Active list!
In the Falklands war more Harriers were lost from being so dangerous to fly than being hit by the enemy.
@@martinishotwhat a load of Rubbish.
@francescxavierbulto9848 All harriers lost in the falklands were due to a crash unrelated to enemy fire. An unbelievably difficult and dangerous aircraft to fly. You are just too much of a coward to research and Learn this.
Wow the thing rises and lowers to take off and they still can't handle the f-35 or did they let some girl fly it LOL
some one left a cover on , one of the air intakes . and they don't rise up we take of like normal air craft craft . better than flying f35 with out a pilot and cant find it because its too stealthy lol witch really happened in America.
@@tyethebalder5666
When those planes are taking off from the British aircraft carrier, why is the canopy not closed? Why was it open and up? That could’ve caused excess drag. On American carriers, all planes are closed up before takeoff, catapults or not, in order to prevent excess drag, especially if a plane takes off against the headwind. That crash could just as easily have been caused because of pilot error or something unseen on the deck before take off. So never make an assumption about something just because of who or where it was made. IMHO, that just sounds inflammatory, insulting and derogatory.
@@tyethebalder5666
One more thing: you really should work on your grammar and spelling. Your comment was filled with grammatical, spelling and usage errors.
Female pilots are just as capable as male pilots. That remark was derogatory, discriminatory and insulting and was uncalled for.
The plane doesn't know the person flying it is, "Some girl" and if she wants it to kill you it will kill you just as dead as if a bloke is flying it. So what point is it you're failing to make?
😂😂😂😂 creen que son también submarinos esas latas
The royale navy is so ’’impresive’’ 😂😂😂
every thing is advance yet shit still happen. So advance to shit the crap of the flight operation.
The FRONT WHEEL LEG APPEARS to have collapsed after the Hitting the ramp angle. IF NOT HOW did the fuselage become SO CLOSE to the top ramp EDGE and the underbelly hit the ramp top and bits flew off the Fuse before the jet got to the end.
Incorrect