Warriors shouldn't be giving you many problems unless they're geared. Howl after charge and shadowflame slow to anticipate zerker rage, get some distance to force an intercept. Trinket intercept and coil and start running with your fingers ready on your curse of exhaustion bind to anticipate trinket (it's fine even if they don't, your goal here is just range). Once done, gain more range and cast unstable aff at them, don't bother fake casting it, just let them reflect it. Now rage should be wearing out, so cast another fear and shadow ward yourself for the UA that was reflected, now cast a roll of dots for free. Second time round is of course trickier, but the opener often leads to a win in my experience. If you're a gnome, an escape artist into shadowflame slow to gain range is devastating against warriors on that 2nd charge. Also don't forget to put up unending breath + detect invis beforehand if you're going to voidwalker shield as any good warrior will just shield slam it off. Having those 2 other buffs active drops the success rate of slamming it off from 100% to 33% and with an 8k shield, you don't want to let it drop easily. Rogues are quite simple too, just coil after they've used cloak (even if you don't get a full row of dots, you can force it by being aggressive at the start. Corruption and searing pain spam can entice it out sooner), 99% they trinket the coil, use instant howl and cast a roll of dots on them, then port away and cast curse of exhaustion on them and run away in the other direction whilst dots work them down. Ferals you shouldn't bother trying to kite as you suggested as it's virtually impossible. The best thing to do is fear them after they open so they pop berserk, then coil after and they trinket (try to squeeze in a haunt before they do) then stand in the one spot and spam drain life at them with demon armour active. They have no interrupt effect like kick, so it's free to cast and you will actually get some healing done rather than aimlessly trying to kite. Another reason it's so effective is that it auto locks on and follows them, denying their ability to ever get behind you to cast shred, which is their main damage ability. So in effect, you are healing + denying damage, which is like even more healing. Use void shield when he maims you. With good resilience, this should allow you to buy enough time before berserk ends, where you can then fear + full dot him again. You can increase your survival with herbalism lifeblood or haste engi gloves so that drain life ticks faster. Battlemaster trinkets can come in clutch if your dps trinkets aren't very good. With these tricks, I tend not to lose vs these classes very often on my affliction, unless they're geared to the teeth or something like that. I will agree, however, that DK is basically impossible unless they're somewhat braindead.. But even those ones have a good chance vs you given how straightforward their antimagic kit is. Not sure why you were using seed of corruption either at the start of the vid since it'll override corruption itself and seed gains no benefit from your talents at all (including the healing off siphon life) as that's all tuned for corruption. I'm assuming you just had it bound to show off some burst at the target dummies, but it really shouldn't be bound at all as aff. Overall though, good guide. I like the way you edit them so it's easy to sit through and relaxed. Not bashing either with what I wrote, just figured I'd give you some tips on what works well for me. Again, melee classes tend not to give me many problems. Maybe you or some new locks will read this and apply it, or maybe it'll just sit here quietly gathering dust and ignored. Oh well, up to you.
Can you please explain how to beat shadow priests in detail? They are the only ones giving me so much trouble, they absorb everything and easily cc chain and burst. I can't spell lock and devour magic constantly.
I know this is an old comment, but thought I'd look for more thoughts on this here This strategy vs warriors relies on being able to use howl + shadowflame to get his intercept, but the warrior doesnt need to intercept here. When you get charged you are stunned for 1.5, almost every warrior will hamstring you during this, you cant avoid it. So if you howl and shadowflame, yes, he is slowed for a bit, but so are you. He doesnt need to waste his intercept to get to you, he can just walk at you. Also lets say somehow he intercepts you. When you coil and he trinkets, he can use intimidating shout to again close the distance and buy time for his next charge, especially now that you dont have trinket. I still firmly believe a good warrior has no business losing to an affliction warlock, its a notoriously hard matchup.
Thanks Nibbai for your hard work! It really helps us. I have question for you, and really hoping honest answer. What is your personal top 3 favorite pvp classes? Just your most liked classes. I hope you will reply! Thanks!
Ya, the hardest class to beat as affi is dk unholy, destro lock (pure dmg in your face + fear = GL) and ench shaman (spam tremor totems = no fear). Some clues for dk: - if he pops anti-magic shell you have to instantly teleport out and run not letting him to grip you - if he pops lichborn while he is close instant death coil - corruption on everything - dk, pet and gargo. For gargo use also CoT. - fel hunter as pet to dispell chains - good luck, because if you make a mistake you will die XD
@@NibbaiWotlk Exaclty, thats why I wrote mistake = death :D. The truth is that you can beat weak or normal dk if you play well as affi and have experience. But if you face good and experienced dk there is no place for mistake, so probability that you gonna die increases greatly haha. Anyway, every affi should know basics/pro tips so he can defend better in world pvp/bgs/arena, because 1v1 is not everything in pvp.
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I notice how warmane implemented new WoD Models aswell. Im a long time player from Warmane even Pre Warmane AKA MoltenWow. Did they also implement a customized Transmog System unto their Wotlk realms?
Yeah it works off a scroll. You use it on item you want your item to look like. It gives you an essence. Then you said essence on said piece of gear to make it look like whatever. Currently how my pally has T6 on my T10s
What is supposed to be the point of going for the pet as a mage if you're not killing it twice (or are confident you can cs and steal feldom)? That just seems like a lot of wasted time and resources.
In my personal opinion, the best for solo leveling is Affliction, because your dots gets more power and then you can heal yourself with corruption, drain life and Haunt. Destruction have a lot of damage, however, Destruction just drains your mana because the mana that use your spells is some expensive and you need to spam it, i know, we have a talent can help us but honestly, i don't see the difference.
Hello do you guys have any tips for a more BG oriented build for Affliction Lock? I'm not expert but i feel some talents are better in BG comparing to Arenas, for example i'm getting way more kills in BGs with the Death's Embrance talent and i think it's quite a must for a BG oriented build, CotE build puting 3 points in Shadow Embrace is much better aswell since there is a high chance everyone is with the Shadow Resistance buff from a Priest, etc. As i said recently in a video from this channel i don't find Arenas or Duels enjoyable anymore because of huge meta mentality of most players, they are literally crackheads, it's insane, insta cleanses in perfect timing, etc, i like to relax/enjoy some PvP gameplay with as little effort as possible after a big day of work and there's no better place than BGs specially Alterac Valley, i think the anarchy mess in the environment of BGs makes people play less like crackheads and it leaves a lot of openings to enjoy PvP while playing relaxed af.
Hey bro,im not much pve player so i cant tell u that. Try doenloading AtlasLoot addon it allows you to see loot in every dungeon/raid so you can see where you can find best weapon for you
Yo quick question. Im new to wotlk and only want to pvp. Can you give me quick insight on which profession to choose as aff and maybe destro if there is a difference planning to start with mining and either jewelcrafting or blacksmithing or engineering
About the Gear, I have Disloged ilvl 264, Phylactery Ilvl277, Charred Twilight. I am Human. Do you think Disloged is better than Charred Twilight?, why?, Thank you in advance.
Love the video, its awesome. But i may need some help with the fear like macro. It mixes up, with shift fear the target and without shift fear the focus 😂 HELP
Can you maybe post the macros in the comments so i can copy paste it? Becaus if i try the summon pet macro with soul link and fel domination it does not work for me
"Aplify Curse: Reduce global cooldown of your curses by 0,5s " Im new to the game but doesnt this seem really situational and not worth the 1point? or am I just dumb and dont understand what global cooldown means. I guess its worth it if you want Curse of Exhaustion?
does resilience even work on those private servers? I play on Synergie Sindragosa. I'm currently in the process of gearing up my warlock in pvp, I'm around 550 resilience und warriors just 2-3 Hit me in a few seconds
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Warriors shouldn't be giving you many problems unless they're geared. Howl after charge and shadowflame slow to anticipate zerker rage, get some distance to force an intercept. Trinket intercept and coil and start running with your fingers ready on your curse of exhaustion bind to anticipate trinket (it's fine even if they don't, your goal here is just range). Once done, gain more range and cast unstable aff at them, don't bother fake casting it, just let them reflect it. Now rage should be wearing out, so cast another fear and shadow ward yourself for the UA that was reflected, now cast a roll of dots for free. Second time round is of course trickier, but the opener often leads to a win in my experience. If you're a gnome, an escape artist into shadowflame slow to gain range is devastating against warriors on that 2nd charge. Also don't forget to put up unending breath + detect invis beforehand if you're going to voidwalker shield as any good warrior will just shield slam it off. Having those 2 other buffs active drops the success rate of slamming it off from 100% to 33% and with an 8k shield, you don't want to let it drop easily.
Rogues are quite simple too, just coil after they've used cloak (even if you don't get a full row of dots, you can force it by being aggressive at the start. Corruption and searing pain spam can entice it out sooner), 99% they trinket the coil, use instant howl and cast a roll of dots on them, then port away and cast curse of exhaustion on them and run away in the other direction whilst dots work them down.
Ferals you shouldn't bother trying to kite as you suggested as it's virtually impossible. The best thing to do is fear them after they open so they pop berserk, then coil after and they trinket (try to squeeze in a haunt before they do) then stand in the one spot and spam drain life at them with demon armour active. They have no interrupt effect like kick, so it's free to cast and you will actually get some healing done rather than aimlessly trying to kite. Another reason it's so effective is that it auto locks on and follows them, denying their ability to ever get behind you to cast shred, which is their main damage ability. So in effect, you are healing + denying damage, which is like even more healing. Use void shield when he maims you. With good resilience, this should allow you to buy enough time before berserk ends, where you can then fear + full dot him again. You can increase your survival with herbalism lifeblood or haste engi gloves so that drain life ticks faster. Battlemaster trinkets can come in clutch if your dps trinkets aren't very good.
With these tricks, I tend not to lose vs these classes very often on my affliction, unless they're geared to the teeth or something like that. I will agree, however, that DK is basically impossible unless they're somewhat braindead.. But even those ones have a good chance vs you given how straightforward their antimagic kit is. Not sure why you were using seed of corruption either at the start of the vid since it'll override corruption itself and seed gains no benefit from your talents at all (including the healing off siphon life) as that's all tuned for corruption. I'm assuming you just had it bound to show off some burst at the target dummies, but it really shouldn't be bound at all as aff.
Overall though, good guide. I like the way you edit them so it's easy to sit through and relaxed. Not bashing either with what I wrote, just figured I'd give you some tips on what works well for me. Again, melee classes tend not to give me many problems. Maybe you or some new locks will read this and apply it, or maybe it'll just sit here quietly gathering dust and ignored. Oh well, up to you.
Thanks for your time! I will pin your comment for effort
I rate you get rekt by melee classes bruh.
Can you please explain how to beat shadow priests in detail? They are the only ones giving me so much trouble, they absorb everything and easily cc chain and burst. I can't spell lock and devour magic constantly.
This is fucking golden mate!
I know this is an old comment, but thought I'd look for more thoughts on this here
This strategy vs warriors relies on being able to use howl + shadowflame to get his intercept, but the warrior doesnt need to intercept here.
When you get charged you are stunned for 1.5, almost every warrior will hamstring you during this, you cant avoid it.
So if you howl and shadowflame, yes, he is slowed for a bit, but so are you. He doesnt need to waste his intercept to get to you, he can just walk at you.
Also lets say somehow he intercepts you. When you coil and he trinkets, he can use intimidating shout to again close the distance and buy time for his next charge, especially now that you dont have trinket.
I still firmly believe a good warrior has no business losing to an affliction warlock, its a notoriously hard matchup.
Its insane how much your guides helped me improve.
Im glad to hear that!
the breakdown of duels really puts in work
9:15 As soon as you cast the spell "Rain of Fire" - real rain went in the game)
Insane timing
i just start a affli. warlock, lvl 40. your video help me alot to understant this class. tnx
@Black Beard human for racial
An awesome guide Bro, I would love to see a Destro lock PvP Guide.
Love your work!
Thanks Nibbai for your hard work! It really helps us.
I have question for you, and really hoping honest answer. What is your personal top 3 favorite pvp classes? Just your most liked classes. I hope you will reply! Thanks!
Np bro and thanks! My favourite top 3 classes could be 1.Rogue 2.Spriest 3.Maybe hunter because of fun
amazing video!!! still super relevant in current content! your tips have helped me amazingly!!
Nice bro,keep it up. Go for fire mage next
thank you so much love your vids man hell rights
🖤
First great vid! Nice breakdown of EVERYTHING. Love the ui as well =]
Reppin it for Warmane!
Great video! Can you make one for Assassination Rogue please?
Goo bro waiting for DK!!
Maybe i just rework unholy dk guide
Ya, the hardest class to beat as affi is dk unholy, destro lock (pure dmg in your face + fear = GL) and ench shaman (spam tremor totems = no fear).
Some clues for dk:
- if he pops anti-magic shell you have to instantly teleport out and run not letting him to grip you
- if he pops lichborn while he is close instant death coil
- corruption on everything - dk, pet and gargo. For gargo use also CoT.
- fel hunter as pet to dispell chains
- good luck, because if you make a mistake you will die XD
In theory it works like that, but in reality... 😅
@@NibbaiWotlk Exaclty, thats why I wrote mistake = death :D. The truth is that you can beat weak or normal dk if you play well as affi and have experience. But if you face good and experienced dk there is no place for mistake, so probability that you gonna die increases greatly haha. Anyway, every affi should know basics/pro tips so he can defend better in world pvp/bgs/arena, because 1v1 is not everything in pvp.
The best Affliction Warlock guide i see in 14 years!! Thank you
VoiVid had way, way better and more detailed guides.. shame he deleted everything
@@puuhamato6294 well for classic that was true. hes vids are on again btw.
@@joshydillens148 He could do vids for wotlk too and they would be most detailed :P
@@joshydillens148 Where? :O
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MACROS:
1./petattack
/petfollow
2.#showtooltip Devour Magic(Rank 7)
/target Lokishka
/cast Devour Magic(Rank 7)
/targetlasttarget
3. #showtooltip Death Coil(Rank 6)
/cast [no:mod] [@target] Death Coil(Rank 6)
/cast [mod:shift] [@focus] Death Coil(Rank 6)
4.#showtooltip Devour Magic(Rank 7)
/cast Devour Magic(Rank 7)
5.#showtooltip Fear(Rank 3)
/cast [no:mod] [@target] Fear(Rank 3)
/cast [mod:shift] [@focus] Fear(Rank 3)
6. /castsequence reset=15 Fel Domination, Summon FelHunter, Soul Link
7. /cast Fel Domination
/cast Summon Voidwalker(Summon)
/cast Sacrifice(Rank 9)
/cast Soul Link
8./castsequence reset=15 Fel Domination, Summon Succubus, Soul Lin
9./cast Shadow Ward(Rank 6)
/cast Sacrifice(Rank 9)
10.#showtooltip
/castsequence fel armor, demon armor
11.#showtooltip Spell Lock(Rank 2)
/cast [mode:ctrl] Spell Lock(Rank 2)
/cast [mode:shift] Seduction
The armor spell you use has also a huge influence in battles
Awesome work again, would love frost dps dk
Thanks bro! I cant promise when Frost gonna be 🤥
i know its too much to ask but can u pls put ur macros in description ty great guide.
I was in the middle of the work but alright. I dropped it in PINNED COMMENT, because i dont have any space in description
I notice how warmane implemented new WoD Models aswell. Im a long time player from Warmane even Pre Warmane AKA MoltenWow. Did they also implement a customized Transmog System unto their Wotlk realms?
Yeah it works off a scroll. You use it on item you want your item to look like. It gives you an essence. Then you said essence on said piece of gear to make it look like whatever.
Currently how my pally has T6 on my T10s
Awesome guide!
Out of interest, have you got a page with the macros on so I can be super lazy and copy and paste? 😂
Those sweet times, when you had Bis lists )
Nice job dude 🔥❤ ... can u make a guide for protec war on ur next video ?
omg i cant believe i improve so much and got title because of this guide.
A guide for frost dk PVP will be nice.
Like do guides for specs that are not that viable for pvp this will be nice.
Yeah i understand that but you have to understand that i need to do viable specs first :D
I think frost guide would be mash face on keyboard
Hey dude great guide, makes me want to play on warmane, any plans on PVE stuff ? like gear specs etc etc
Maybe, but not in near future tbh. Gotta do all classes first 😄
my first spec i played with lock, nice bruuh
Thanks bro
i love this vidio, thanks bro.
You really should have fully dotted the mage while he was killing your pet -> cc mage -> resummon pet -> redot. Mages are cake for locks...
A mage who knows how to cc and kill pet is very difficult. But 99% don't know how to do it.
really good job
Hi, what is the add-on that announces > Fear down on **** < ? 17:34
Thx & very good video
What is supposed to be the point of going for the pet as a mage if you're not killing it twice (or are confident you can cs and steal feldom)?
That just seems like a lot of wasted time and resources.
Excelent video!
Thanks!
Damn this macro with Fel domination, i always had to press 3 buttons so great...
Yeah so useful macro!
You make the best pvp guides dude ! Keep it up :). Maybe some pve guides next
Thanks bro! Maybe i start PvE but not in near future
Excelent !
Which is best for solo leveling. Affliction + Destruction or Affliction + Demonology? WOWLK
In my personal opinion, the best for solo leveling is Affliction, because your dots gets more power and then you can heal yourself with corruption, drain life and Haunt. Destruction have a lot of damage, however, Destruction just drains your mana because the mana that use your spells is some expensive and you need to spam it, i know, we have a talent can help us but honestly, i don't see the difference.
Demo is best for solo leveling by miles in terms of mana and pull power. Will be the least downtime as you will be drinking alot as affy
nice video!
really halped insane good
Hello do you guys have any tips for a more BG oriented build for Affliction Lock? I'm not expert but i feel some talents are better in BG comparing to Arenas, for example i'm getting way more kills in BGs with the Death's Embrance talent and i think it's quite a must for a BG oriented build, CotE build puting 3 points in Shadow Embrace is much better aswell since there is a high chance everyone is with the Shadow Resistance buff from a Priest, etc.
As i said recently in a video from this channel i don't find Arenas or Duels enjoyable anymore because of huge meta mentality of most players, they are literally crackheads, it's insane, insta cleanses in perfect timing, etc, i like to relax/enjoy some PvP gameplay with as little effort as possible after a big day of work and there's no better place than BGs specially Alterac Valley, i think the anarchy mess in the environment of BGs makes people play less like crackheads and it leaves a lot of openings to enjoy PvP while playing relaxed af.
Can you make a video about low bracket PVP warmane affli warlock ?
Looks like you have to work bloody hard to make warlock good?! Not sure if I have it in me for all that compared to other classes!
DK: You can't win, you just can't, don't even try, you cannot f****** WIN
I've been waiting for this! thank you man!
nice video, ty
Спасибо за гайд из России! Ты классный
Jos lur..saya pemula wow..veri naic man
Affli is nice but i think only in arena. For more fun ist destru in bg's in wotlk with sukki👍🏻
Waiting so long for this
9:30 it started to rain when you used rain of fire😂
what stone do you use? excellent guide, very complete.
Glyph of quick decay not working in warmane. Please report this bug and vote for bug reports
bro where did u get a decent staff or sword to start pvping my ivl for staff is like 148 ?
Hey bro,im not much pve player so i cant tell u that. Try doenloading AtlasLoot addon it allows you to see loot in every dungeon/raid so you can see where you can find best weapon for you
My friend is going Shadow Priest. Are Warlocks or in particular Affliction a good duo with Shadow Priests?
Good tips!
What professions do you think are the best for lock aflic, man?
А ну норм сражаться с 600кап!! когда у тебя 1.3к капа??? Красава!!
11:55 What reset=15 mean?
Yo quick question. Im new to wotlk and only want to pvp. Can you give me quick insight on which profession to choose as aff and maybe destro if there is a difference planning to start with mining and either jewelcrafting or blacksmithing or engineering
What would you consider the best overall spec for world pvp ? Destruction i guess ?
Nah, probably Unholy dk or Ret/Preg paladin. Also good Hunter can make huge advantage in world pvp with huge range
@@NibbaiWotlk and what about warlock spec ?
CAN MAKE VIDEOS ABOUT HOW TO GEAR FRESH 80 FURY WARRIOR? OR FURY WARRIOR PVP GUIDE.
Fury warr is maybe the worst class in whole game for PVP. Gearing a fresh 80 i think you can find on youtube 😁
@@NibbaiWotlk are you planning to do PVE guide?
@@theveganzombie9110 not in near future to be honest
@@NibbaiWotlk ok bro. good videos by the way. best guides in youtube. keep doing good jobs.
About the Gear, I have Disloged ilvl 264, Phylactery Ilvl277, Charred Twilight. I am Human. Do you think Disloged is better than Charred Twilight?, why?, Thank you in advance.
Thanks for the guide, where can i found the macro to copy past please ?
thanks for the addons my dude
Love the video, its awesome.
But i may need some help with the fear like macro.
It mixes up, with shift fear the target and without shift fear the focus 😂
HELP
Ty! Where it writes "nomod" thats for target
@@NibbaiWotlk
Ty I kinda used a simplified one. Its like this:
/cast [mod:shift, @focus] [] Fear(Rank 3)
It works just fine to me
Can i use Phylactery Nm on Warlock?
very good guide thanks a lot, just one thing can you list the addons you are using
Addons in description, also i have a video for addons
Doesn't Drain Soul do more DPS at
How your game look so beautiful ? btw so good tutorial :)
hey, what is name of this addon/weakaura which telling u for example "howl of terror ready now"?
hola , hay alguna posibilidad que este video lo subas en subtítulos en español ? tienes algún video de como configurar los addons que usas ?
If u have amplify curse, would it not be better to agony then corruption for the gcd
what the is addon on the right hand side that track enemy target cool down?
Tem como por legenda em Português, gostei muito do tutorial.
What is the addon that shows the curses on top of your target?
Why dont u lock with Affli but u do with Destro warlock ?
nice work bro can you tell me addons you are using plz ?
he made whole video about macros
what realm you play on? blackrock or icecrown?
This is Blackrock
where can i get Glyph of Siphon Life plz help me
Great! can u plz put the macros here or on a copy/paste site? :( plzzzzzz , i downloaded the video as a low resolution and cant read them :'(
What addon do you use to see the life bar like this?
why no one use destruction? i think its great for pvp
Haste is good for dots? Sorry i dont know if this is better than crit or what haste can do
Haste makes dot tick faster and you got glyph for Corruption
Thank you!
Why you dont use wrathful neck
what addon lets u see the castbar under the players hp bar? not in ur left hand corner screen but over the physical toon
Outstanding as always
💪
in the rotation part what are these '' Coe, CoA ''
Curse of elements, curse of agony
I need to make a main im still between ( DK, Warrior, Priest, Mage and warlock) help meeee
Whatever you main you will be good at.
Be honest, do the uodated cahr models makr your client crash?
No bro
Can you maybe post the macros in the comments so i can copy paste it? Becaus if i try the summon pet macro with soul link and fel domination it does not work for me
Ниодного дипа с себя не сдиспелил 😂я записываю гайд не не умею играть.
Why demon armor not demon skin?
"Aplify Curse: Reduce global cooldown of your curses by 0,5s " Im new to the game but doesnt this seem really situational and not worth the 1point? or am I just dumb and dont understand what global cooldown means.
I guess its worth it if you want Curse of Exhaustion?
Your just grabbing it for exhaustion yeah
legit no defensive cooldowns, if you get trained by a rogue warrior or dk the whole game its gg
Go destro !😁
does resilience even work on those private servers? I play on Synergie Sindragosa. I'm currently in the process of gearing up my warlock in pvp, I'm around 550 resilience und warriors just 2-3 Hit me in a few seconds
lol 550 is nothing ofc they will oneshot you
where duals with DK?
funny priest. Dispel of unstable affliction is not the smartest idea, lol. 8k damage in his face + silence
Hey bro. I want to download this rn. It it still popular?
Hell yeah bro
none of these macros work?