Thank you for praising JL for his professionalism. And for giving assessments and highlighting the great points for the bench team rhythm. The likes of you who are professional in the field of music holds more bearing.
Yes JL is a singer in the Philippines but he only debuted last year 2023. Some of the participants debuted way back 2019 like Kyungho and woonki and Steven.They should be more on a level of a professional singers.Jl only started to have training at his agency in 2021. 😊
I super agree that online voting should be done real time or after their performance so we can judge whoever we think deserve our vote. What's the point in being an MVP if the scoring is not on real time? ...
Then that means sbs needs to show UL live on TH-cam which i don't think they're likely gonna do but i hope they consider it because that onsite voting is way too unfair.
진짜 인정이에요.. 방청갔을 때 벤치분들이 다 잘 해서 저는 벤치를 응원했어요.. 벤치분들이 정말 절박했구나가 느껴졌던거 같아요. 그래도 라이브는 그루브 주전이 더 귀에 들긴 했지만, 퍼포먼스는 리듬이 눈에 들었는데.. 투표결과는 너무 극적이라 아쉽긴 했어요ㅠ 투표결과가 현장 뿐아니라 온라인도 조금더 실시간 자료가 반영되면 좋을거 같아요. 비트팀 친구들 중에도 잘하는 친구들이 있어 응원하는 마음이었는데, 너무 순식간에 탈락하니 허탈감이 들더라구요ㅠㅠ 눈으로 보는거랑 다른 결과에 더 보기 힘들겠다는 생각도 들구요.. (넘 잔인해요ㅠ) 실력좋은 친구들이 보여 응원하는 방송인데.. 잘됐음 좋겠네요..
I agree with what you said about the votes not meaning anything because they don’t reflect recent votes. it’s way too delayed, to the point that it becomes very frustrating for the audience and the hardwork of the trainees means nothing since they could already get a yellow card or be eliminated before people start voting for them when the episode airs. such a shame
Thank you for your insights! See it doesn't make sense how come the best ones are eliminated and have yellow cards. The voting period vs when the episode is released is too far behind. Now we're on the 3rd round of votes but we don't know what the rules are in the upcoming episodes and who will be eliminated by tomorrow
I agree about the Ignition song, except JL the other members really didn't sound too good. For Mamma Mia the mentors gave team beat that choreography and song pacing in the beginning of the episode. And he really pushed them to keep the fast paced nature.
I definitely agree with you about the voting system... there so many flaws the live audience, delayed votings, the team format for the debuting players...all of these are so questionable
i agree with you uncle…. the votingsss is off it doetmake sense… sirin should be higher ranking as he really did well and outshine most of them… love from PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭
On site voters are the cause if you are wondering why Sirin got a yellow card. The votes they gave to rhythm bench is not justifiable. They are the one who decided on the ranking and even the online votes are negated or matched by the onsite votes. For the most part of the ranking, it is actually in the hands of the on site voters because they are just few in numbers but their votes hold more significance than online voters. Debuting with just 7 members I think is bad because there are a lot of talented players here. With the viewership, don''t other svs got low rating as well?. I do agree that delaying the votes feels so wrong as these trainees get better with each mission. One can even vote for someone who is already eliminated.
Incorrect, there was no individual contestant voting by the on site audience this round, just a team vote. The rankings of the trainees to determine yellow cards was based solely on the first round of online voting that happened before the show started airing.
@@SanaIsGay-KpopContent They said in the episode that their ranking was from taking their online scores and converting them to match the value of the onsite vote. So because the onsite vote gave such a low score to Team Rhythm Bench their online votes were scaled down. The biggest issue though was also that these global votes happened before anyone knew them or how talented they were. It's ridiculous to open votes before we have met all the players and seen what they can do.
@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen Again, incorrect. This was specifically said for the team vote, not the individual votes that determined who got a yellow card. Individual votes were online only this round which yes, is completely absurd considering the votes were taken from before the show started airing. For confirmation SBS posted the same vote counts on their site and only said they were online votes at the top.
The winning team may not be the only one who debuted. Individual voting is also important. The previous "Universal Ticket" also played a team match, but individual voting was important for the debut. They playing a team match, but there are other evaluations for debut. The "Universe Ticket" debuted through individual voting or expert evaluation even for participants who had never won a team match. The previous 'Universal Ticket' did not debut only on the divided debut team. The Universe League is its successor. The proceedings will not be completely different because there is an individual vote. The team is important, but so is the individual.
you keep saying JL being a professional, but arent members like cha woongki kyungho kairi joohyoung and steven professionals too? since they debuted too already, what's with the difference in treatment? JL was in the industry for only less than 2 years.. idk about the mentioned above but they should've trained longer.. why can't you see talent as it is, and not based on how they're "experienced/professional" they are.. meanwhile they should be on the same level as the above mentioned.. you kind of making me irk why don't you mention being a professional to cha woongki your favorite contestant 🤨
@Maaabs last time i checked he also mentioned JL being "an active professional singer in the philippines" aren't some members too an "an ex debuted korean idols".. girl go away this also my analysis
at this point, TO ME, he's dismissing jl talent as just being an experienced idol.. meanwhile, others experienced the same being an idol and all just in different countries lol
Yeah, I feel the same dismissiveness too and it rubs me the wrong way. I know saying someone is "professional" is not bad but he says it as if JL has an advantage over EVERYONE because he's debuted before. He's said it before too. Meanwhile a lot of the Korean, Chinese, Japanese and even Thai contestants are or have been active as idols. Others have participated in one or more survival shows before as well. 😖
get well soon! i like how you rationalize everything happening in the show. also i agree that the online votings should reflect realtime, because what is the point of voting if we can’t save the deserving players.
I head this, I heard that. Show proof of those who heard that Rhythm bench sound different in live than in videos. Even changsub pick Sirin because he is a good singer. The audience are just biased against foreigners. It's not that hard to acknowledge that your countrymen have their biases which is completely normal but not a good thing for talent shows like this.
VOCALS vs Pronunciation.. But the Live audiences Didn't hear. The Voice Crack at the End or the mess on the choreography. Even Changsub thought they're gonna steal the song from them.
Jiangfan didn't deserve to be eliminated. This is a take that I hope onsite fans realize... They vote for visuals... And once they debut, they bash them cause they can't sing or perform in the way they hoped... Like it's so ironic to know that they want a good performance but don't vote on people who indeed perform well... Park Han carried Groove but didn't even reach the top 5. I think it's disappointing that they're voting for people they put in a standard that they expected to reach upon their debut... But i wish for them that bro... Just vote for the well performing groups ... Don't be blinded by the abs... 😢 Abs is already just a display you can't hear on a recording... Just saying...
I clicked got it though I did not understand the guidelines juat so I can leave this comment...because I have to say this. His comment how tram beat did better than rhythm IS exactly my comment about the Prison competition but team rhythm has no Korean in there and they did not win. Sorry but I feel that really in everything viewers tend to be patriotic to their own countrymen IN GENERAL as you are in your own views which is a pity but I respect that. I guess you really view this in the view of the korean audience so it is enlightening how other races are viewed. Thai nationals tend to have chinese or other asian ethnicity so I guess that is how they can be 'accepted' and I do think a lot of thai talents are really talented so thanks for that they can thrive in the korean industry. Guess this is a lesson to other dreamers...dream big elsewhere other than the kpop industry. It might be the biggest thing now but you can shake the pop industry in your own country and go worldwide. I hope this comment is not screened and prevented to be posted here. Because here we are supporting and shouting out other talents irregardless of which country they come from but it seems it is not the same the other way around.
i really liked the team rhythm bench team's performance over groove's and I was disappointed they didn't win. as for the mamma mia's bench groove's performance, i think the choreography was a bit out of place in relation to the meaning of the song.
This UL should have respect Global Opinion as well since this is not korean standard of winning. Imagine theres a lot of Global Fans know how to sing and dance and could recognise who deserve to win base on overall performance. Is like your asking me to love snake than puppy. LMAO. And be happy they choose snake to win because for them snake is better to be pet than puppy. LOL..They attracting Global Hate for unfair scoring and judging of live audiences. Its like Global fans wanted to ask Korea what is happening with your eyes and ears? Are you blind? Not because one member has one powerful vocals. They deserved the overall win. This is really unforgettable episode to me. LoL. And also justice to Jang Fan dancing and vocal talent. He didn't deserve to be eliminated as early as this and received low score from live audiences. They dont know how to recognise talent.
@@kathlynflores1309 to be fair, they should diversify their live viewers. They could still have huge Korean voters but they should also have global voters on site.
I was right and you are right! Man, what's the point of hardwork, and talents when in the first place the foreign participants are about to say hi to koreans(on site vote) but then got eliminated before they can show their personalities. This on site voting system is total nonsense.
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똑같은 생각을 했어요. 시청자들이 보고 판단할 시간을 주지도 않을거라면 이미 결과가 나온 방송을 졸이면서 볼 필요가 있을까..
Thank you for praising JL for his professionalism. And for giving assessments and highlighting the great points for the bench team rhythm. The likes of you who are professional in the field of music holds more bearing.
Yes JL is a singer in the Philippines but he only debuted last year 2023. Some of the participants debuted way back 2019 like Kyungho and woonki and Steven.They should be more on a level of a professional singers.Jl only started to have training at his agency in 2021. 😊
I super agree that online voting should be done real time or after their performance so we can judge whoever we think deserve our vote. What's the point in being an MVP if the scoring is not on real time? ...
Then that means sbs needs to show UL live on TH-cam which i don't think they're likely gonna do but i hope they consider it because that onsite voting is way too unfair.
I agree. If I have seen these episodes, I will vote for Sirin and Jiang Fan.
Jiang Fan is elimnated already 😢
Vote for Sirin
I agree that the voting data used for the challenges should be recent. It's like the live performances are only meant for the Live audience to judge.
진짜 인정이에요.. 방청갔을 때 벤치분들이 다 잘 해서 저는 벤치를 응원했어요.. 벤치분들이 정말 절박했구나가 느껴졌던거 같아요. 그래도 라이브는 그루브 주전이 더 귀에 들긴 했지만, 퍼포먼스는 리듬이 눈에 들었는데.. 투표결과는 너무 극적이라 아쉽긴 했어요ㅠ
투표결과가 현장 뿐아니라 온라인도 조금더 실시간 자료가 반영되면 좋을거 같아요. 비트팀 친구들 중에도 잘하는 친구들이 있어 응원하는 마음이었는데, 너무 순식간에 탈락하니 허탈감이 들더라구요ㅠㅠ 눈으로 보는거랑 다른 결과에 더 보기 힘들겠다는 생각도 들구요.. (넘 잔인해요ㅠ) 실력좋은 친구들이 보여 응원하는 방송인데.. 잘됐음 좋겠네요..
I agree with what you said about the votes not meaning anything because they don’t reflect recent votes. it’s way too delayed, to the point that it becomes very frustrating for the audience and the hardwork of the trainees means nothing since they could already get a yellow card or be eliminated before people start voting for them when the episode airs. such a shame
Thank you for your insights!
See it doesn't make sense how come the best ones are eliminated and have yellow cards. The voting period vs when the episode is released is too far behind. Now we're on the 3rd round of votes but we don't know what the rules are in the upcoming episodes and who will be eliminated by tomorrow
@@coralc9585 What do you mean by tomorrow ? Will there be a taping tomorrow?
@jayrnalagon today's the taping for the next round
@@coralc9585 thanks.. will look out for it. ❣️
건강은 괜찮으신가요? 날도 추운데 건강조심하셔요~ 진짜 지앙판은 잘하는데 아쉬워요
11:13 11월 11일 ~ 17일은 저 방송 첫 방영도 하기전인ㄷ ㅔ…
I agree about the Ignition song, except JL the other members really didn't sound too good. For Mamma Mia the mentors gave team beat that choreography and song pacing in the beginning of the episode. And he really pushed them to keep the fast paced nature.
Not to be biased about Rhythm bench team but they did really well. It is just sad that there is no korean in the group hence the low votes 😢
I definitely agree with you about the voting system... there so many flaws the live audience, delayed votings, the team format for the debuting players...all of these are so questionable
i agree with you uncle…. the votingsss is off it doetmake sense… sirin should be higher ranking as he really did well and outshine most of them… love from PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭
I'm from the Philippines but lost hope for this Show after Jiang Fan got eliminated
I hope everything is well and I wish you a good health.
Thank you for allotting time to review on these episodes ❤
저 이거 방청 갔다왔었는데 기억남는 인물은 박한이랑 차웅기 그리고 다이스케
차웅기 표정 엄청잘쓰고 박한은 실력이 압도적인느낌 다이스케는 화면 잡히는데 너무 귀여웠어서 기억남
On site voters are the cause if you are wondering why Sirin got a yellow card. The votes they gave to rhythm bench is not justifiable. They are the one who decided on the ranking and even the online votes are negated or matched by the onsite votes. For the most part of the ranking, it is actually in the hands of the on site voters because they are just few in numbers but their votes hold more significance than online voters. Debuting with just 7 members I think is bad because there are a lot of talented players here. With the viewership, don''t other svs got low rating as well?. I do agree that delaying the votes feels so wrong as these trainees get better with each mission. One can even vote for someone who is already eliminated.
Incorrect, there was no individual contestant voting by the on site audience this round, just a team vote. The rankings of the trainees to determine yellow cards was based solely on the first round of online voting that happened before the show started airing.
@@SanaIsGay-KpopContent They said in the episode that their ranking was from taking their online scores and converting them to match the value of the onsite vote. So because the onsite vote gave such a low score to Team Rhythm Bench their online votes were scaled down. The biggest issue though was also that these global votes happened before anyone knew them or how talented they were. It's ridiculous to open votes before we have met all the players and seen what they can do.
@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen Again, incorrect. This was specifically said for the team vote, not the individual votes that determined who got a yellow card. Individual votes were online only this round which yes, is completely absurd considering the votes were taken from before the show started airing. For confirmation SBS posted the same vote counts on their site and only said they were online votes at the top.
とても適切なお話ありがとうございます♪
The winning team may not be the only one who debuted. Individual voting is also important. The previous "Universal Ticket" also played a team match, but individual voting was important for the debut. They playing a team match, but there are other evaluations for debut. The "Universe Ticket" debuted through individual voting or expert evaluation even for participants who had never won a team match. The previous 'Universal Ticket' did not debut only on the divided debut team. The Universe League is its successor. The proceedings will not be completely different because there is an individual vote. The team is important, but so is the individual.
you keep saying JL being a professional, but arent members like cha woongki kyungho kairi joohyoung and steven professionals too? since they debuted too already, what's with the difference in treatment? JL was in the industry for only less than 2 years.. idk about the mentioned above but they should've trained longer.. why can't you see talent as it is, and not based on how they're "experienced/professional" they are.. meanwhile they should be on the same level as the above mentioned.. you kind of making me irk why don't you mention being a professional to cha woongki your favorite contestant 🤨
@Maaabs last time i checked he also mentioned JL being "an active professional singer in the philippines" aren't some members too an "an ex debuted korean idols".. girl go away this also my analysis
he just can't let it go. what's he fusing about it. i need an explanation why can't he mention others being experienced too 🤨
at this point, TO ME, he's dismissing jl talent as just being an experienced idol.. meanwhile, others experienced the same being an idol and all just in different countries lol
@Maaabs girl I'm always right about my guts, I ain't letting this go. He is downplaying JL's talent.
Yeah, I feel the same dismissiveness too and it rubs me the wrong way. I know saying someone is "professional" is not bad but he says it as if JL has an advantage over EVERYONE because he's debuted before. He's said it before too. Meanwhile a lot of the Korean, Chinese, Japanese and even Thai contestants are or have been active as idols. Others have participated in one or more survival shows before as well. 😖
ガチさん、今はもうよくなりましたか？大丈夫ですか？
毎回動画を上げてくれて嬉しいですが、無理はしないでお大事にしてください！
ちなみに私もビートのベンチチームのほうが断然良かったです！残念😢
Jiang Fan was ROBBED... it's so unfair 😭😭
get well soon! i like how you rationalize everything happening in the show. also i agree that the online votings should reflect realtime, because what is the point of voting if we can’t save the deserving players.
You have great analysis. ❤❤
I agree Universe Legue is not very popular right now. 😢
건강 잘 챙기세요 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
현장에서 라이브하는거 듣는거보다 방송에서 노래 수정이 들어가서 팀리듬 벤치팀이 잘하는것 처럼 보일수있다고 생각됩니다.
현장에서 들은 사람들은 좀 다른 의견이에요.
삑사리랑 안무실수 커버쳐줄 정도인가요?
@TT-fr3dr 현장에선 가사전달력 딸리는게 더 치명적으로 보일수있죠. 직캠보시면 보컬실수는 잘 안들려요. 방송에서 도드라지게 편집된거죠.
현장에선 앞사람들이나 디테일하게 보이지 뒤에사람들은 전체적인 보컬 안정성이 높은 그루브쪽으로 기울었다고 생각됩니다
biased audiences….. they don’t know how too identify real talent..
I head this, I heard that. Show proof of those who heard that Rhythm bench sound different in live than in videos. Even changsub pick Sirin because he is a good singer. The audience are just biased against foreigners. It's not that hard to acknowledge that your countrymen have their biases which is completely normal but not a good thing for talent shows like this.
VOCALS vs Pronunciation.. But the Live audiences Didn't hear. The Voice Crack at the End or the mess on the choreography. Even Changsub thought they're gonna steal the song from them.
日本は一週遅れで放送されます。
それだけでも不利なのに、現場投票の意味のなさを痛感しています。序盤だけでも落とさずに、全員にフォーカスして欲しいと思います。
私も中では一番ジャンファン君が上手だと思います。
そして、名前はわかりませんが、ビートチームの選抜の中でいい声してると思った子が落ちてるTH-camの動画を見ました。
現場の人気投票だけで、うまいも頑張りも全く意味がない投票システム。
最近のオーディションは本当にこればかりで、デビューしてから人気でないのがわかります。
現場投票がないオーディションは難しいのでしょうか？コロナの時期はできたんだから出来ますよね。実力と頑張りをもっと応援できるオーディションを望みます。
Please take care of your Health. Thank you for this great review.
Oh gosh I hope you're okay
11:33 yeah you are right❤ you pointed that out.
Jiangfan didn't deserve to be eliminated. This is a take that I hope onsite fans realize... They vote for visuals... And once they debut, they bash them cause they can't sing or perform in the way they hoped... Like it's so ironic to know that they want a good performance but don't vote on people who indeed perform well...
Park Han carried Groove but didn't even reach the top 5.
I think it's disappointing that they're voting for people they put in a standard that they expected to reach upon their debut... But i wish for them that bro... Just vote for the well performing groups ... Don't be blinded by the abs... 😢 Abs is already just a display you can't hear on a recording... Just saying...
건강하세요ㅠㅠ
9:40 you're right 😢
I clicked got it though I did not understand the guidelines juat so I can leave this comment...because I have to say this. His comment how tram beat did better than rhythm IS exactly my comment about the Prison competition but team rhythm has no Korean in there and they did not win. Sorry but I feel that really in everything viewers tend to be patriotic to their own countrymen IN GENERAL as you are in your own views which is a pity but I respect that. I guess you really view this in the view of the korean audience so it is enlightening how other races are viewed. Thai nationals tend to have chinese or other asian ethnicity so I guess that is how they can be 'accepted' and I do think a lot of thai talents are really talented so thanks for that they can thrive in the korean industry. Guess this is a lesson to other dreamers...dream big elsewhere other than the kpop industry. It might be the biggest thing now but you can shake the pop industry in your own country and go worldwide. I hope this comment is not screened and prevented to be posted here. Because here we are supporting and shouting out other talents irregardless of which country they come from but it seems it is not the same the other way around.
i really liked the team rhythm bench team's performance over groove's and I was disappointed they didn't win.
as for the mamma mia's bench groove's performance, i think the choreography was a bit out of place in relation to the meaning of the song.
Keep safe always
박한 차웅기만 데뷔하면 된다
I agree😌
I agree to all of he said. 👏👏👏👍
Whoever will be the Live Audience today dec23, better be voting for SIRIN cause he didn't deserve the yellow card.
Lets go!
This UL should have respect Global Opinion as well since this is not korean standard of winning. Imagine theres a lot of Global Fans know how to sing and dance and could recognise who deserve to win base on overall performance. Is like your asking me to love snake than puppy. LMAO. And be happy they choose snake to win because for them snake is better to be pet than puppy. LOL..They attracting Global Hate for unfair scoring and judging of live audiences. Its like Global fans wanted to ask Korea what is happening with your eyes and ears? Are you blind? Not because one member has one powerful vocals. They deserved the overall win. This is really unforgettable episode to me. LoL. And also justice to Jang Fan dancing and vocal talent. He didn't deserve to be eliminated as early as this and received low score from live audiences. They dont know how to recognise talent.
@@kathlynflores1309 to be fair, they should diversify their live viewers. They could still have huge Korean voters but they should also have global voters on site.
I was right and you are right! Man, what's the point of hardwork, and talents when in the first place the foreign participants are about to say hi to koreans(on site vote) but then got eliminated before they can show their personalities. This on site voting system is total nonsense.
Guys they said the one who debut is the winning team!!😢
JL은 프로일지 모르지만 그의 팬들은 그렇지 않다. 이전 필리핀 참가자 팬들은 전혀 그렇지 않다. 이 시점에서 유일하게 흥미로운 것은 이창섭 선수 거래라고 생각합니다.
Do you think that voicing unfairness with the result is unprofessional? Why are you dragging JL again?
@ 당신의 나라에서 독해력이 사라지나요?
the malice behind your words is very evident
참고로 JL은 2023년에 데뷔했고, UL의 다른 한국 참가자들은 2019년과 2021년에 데뷔했지만 아직 프로라고 불릴 수준은 아닙니다. 질투한다면 그럴 수도 있지만, 지금은 너무 씁쓸해 보이니 속으로만 품으세요.
Team Rhythm❤❤❤