D4 will never fix itself, it'll always be a game you play for a week whenever there's a new season or expansion, and then go back to playing better games. Blizzard have had so many last chances that it's just sad at this point, and it won't matter how many attempts they make at trying to fix it; they're incompetent from the top to the bottom and it'll always lead to band aiding and polishing turds. I'm telling you, once you play PoE 2 you'll never main D4 ever again, it'll be a brief blip in your consciousness whenever they release lackluster, 0% effort seasonal release number #425, this time with double treasure goblin spawns, cooooool. Diablo has lost it's soul, and so long as Blizzard are managing it; it'll always be that way.
I agree that, its 100% lost its soul and it sad to see the game that i once loved played go completely down the drain. D4 had so much potential, but i guess making sure the investors are happy with metric numbers is more important then making the people that play the game happy.
I think you recognise the problem wrong . Its not that you have to split your work in two. Gold and the obduside. The problem is that both of these are so fucking boring and pointelss to farm and also the reward ( masterworking ) is even more boring . You just feel for the whole time you play that you dont chase cool fantasy items like swrords or treasures like diamonds etc etc. You feel like you slaving away to change numbers in a meaningless chart.
On the verge of quitting Diablo myself, and I've been playing since the closed beta. My main STILL doesn't have an ancestral pair of boots or a ring that I need. Way too many variables on items, and throw in the tempering/bricking and master working issues you've mentioned and it frustrates the hell out of me. Then, in a couple of weeks when the new season starts, it'll all be for nothing and the frustration will start all over again. Life's too short.
Make me laugh D4 shills thinking they will go to POE2 and expecting they can zoom zoom (D4 style) with broken builds and get exactly what they want, you will all quickly go back to D4 as POE2 is 100 times more complicated and you will probably never get or craft the items you want or need.
Crafting something isn't luck on POE, its deterministic. If you don't know about Path of exile 2 then you shoukd probably be quiet cuz your ignorance is showing.
I get that you're probably just repeating something you've heard from someone else, but you don't need perfect minmaxed gear to clear content in PoE. There isn't any content that walls everything but the 1 or 2 most meta builds like the Pit in Diablo 4, by the time you reach the problem in this video you're already clearing all content on pretty much any skill but a select few.
Bro I feel your pain. Blizzard designed the game that way. They know. Blizzard is and has been notorious for creating a problem in their own game only to turn around and sell you the solution.
For me, it was the fact that I was spending hours like you trying to masterwork my gear and I was getting nowhere. So I decided to go back to my old main, but the problem is my old main (necro) was nowhere near as powerful as SB and I just got bored. Then POE2 hit and I just can't go back now.
I've just uninstalled it! I cannot accept any longer the rubber banding and freezing. I have tried lowering the settings to lowest point, tried every fix from the forums and I conclude it's just broken for certain people. It makes no difference where my settings are and yes some people have no issues. So I deduce they have certain servers that are an issue and I am on one of them. I cannot accept loading the game up and for 20 minutes my SSD is working massively and in any gameplay I die as I cannot do anything without it freezing. So it's gone and I am moving on. Sad really as in November it was fine and now all of a sudden completely unplayable.
There are a billion reasons why I quitted as well. The only thing I liked about the game were the fights. When I pay for a job at the enchanter or blacksmith. I want a job well done. Not a chance to win a spoiled bread and brick my gear after millions or billions of gold spent. This system is the most ridiculous system ever implemented in a game. I'm not going to play a game for 1 thing they did right. This whole system of paying for a CHANCE to get what you need has to go. I pay for something, give it. If this was real life? ... don't let me even mention what would happen. And then there is the fact YOU need to supply the resources for the enchanter or blacksmith to mess your gear up! Why are we even paying? If I pay, it means I get what I ask for. Not in Diablo. You pay for your frustrations and raging.
D4 is the best thing that happened to PoE. So many people discovered they like ARPG due to D4. Then realized that PoE is better in every possible way. Which is funny since PoE got made after D3 went live. The developers were so disappointed, they made PoE lol
PoE gained less than 2% more players since D4 launched , you can see the damn player counts. Here is a Reality check : The only way under New Zealand Law and international trade agreements that Tencent could 100% own and control GGG as it is listed BY THEM is if GGG was headed for bankruptcy, THATS THE ONLY time it's allowed for Chinese company to be soul owner and control. So PoE1 was a financial failure UNTIL they opened China server , then Tencent put more money and buying more of company and we got the first Real poe2 news and vids . PoE2 is awesome, but it's Tencent made not GGG . But yes PoE2 is very good
I feel your pain. Intensely. I am the definition of a casual player but I've been with the series since D2. I'm actually ok with having to think about gold... As long as I get something good out of it. There are no good gear farm mechanics so you never get the equipment you need. Then, when you finally get it, you brick it at the mystic. If you make it past the mystic, you brick it at the blacksmith. Then you spend days trying to get enough to masterwork and then hours rolling and re-rolling just hoping to get the stat you need. Now you have ONE piece of gear that you can use. Joy! They should: Get rid of Interminable Hordes Make nightmare dungeons the farm for great gear Make Hecktides the farm for keys and boss summoning material Pits are Ok the way they are but it would be nice if they were bigger and more open Let mystic and blacksmith do what they do now but tone down or eliminate the RNG. Maybe they would use resources from NMD or pits? Do SOMETHING to make this don't to play. ANYTHING! I'm really thinking about going back to D3.
Farming obductite from Infernal hordes and nightmare dungeons to masterwork gear is exhausting but satisfying at the same time. I only do the hordes for whispers now because after getting so many (200) aether chests they're dropping junk gear that I scrap. Elites and nightmare dungeon bosses should give more obductite. I love Diablo and Santuary but sometimes you have to not play for a day or two to keep from burnout.
And this is why I lasted 1.5 seasons. It was a turn off from the beginning, paid 150cdn for the platinum and it was definitely a platinum POS. You grind and don’t get a single platinum coin, you don’t earn a new season, they force you spend real money every season to join that season. It’s been my major disappointment of gaming. Even if they refunded my money I wouldn’t play this game for free. I wish I could gift it to someone but it’s a reminder to have on my pc to not buy into the hype. Got POE2 yesterday and it is challenging, but awesome. It’ll take work but I have time. I won’t be wasting it ever again on a blizzard game, Blizzard is dead to me.
It completely baffles me that the prices - both gold and mats - are so ridiculously high in this game. It's like it's trying to be an MMO, making player retention a priority to keep those monthly subs rolling in. Instead, we get an overly pricey game, with overly pricey MTX that nobody wants to spend money on, that we get to waste hundreds of hours to grind the gold and materials we need to...fail to upgrade things. Repeatedly. Sometimes permanently. It's like going to your favorite ice cream shop, but you have to smash your PP in a door in order to enjoy it.
Diablo 4 substituted terrible RNG instead of legitimate gameplay mechanics, story and replayability. They deserved their fate. I logged back in to look around. After a day of seeing Spiritborn (Pay to win) insta killing bosses while 5 others barely scratched it, I immediately uninstalled and will never play it again.
That wasnt intentional, they broke the multiplier in one of the passives and it just went nuts, but yeah they didnt fix it and so it stayed nuts. Its only that build and that does that damage and i stayed away from it. The class is very fun to play but the RNG of the game killed it for me
That is why I quit after I realized the skill trees are limited to a max of three diff builds. Did it season one then two. Came back to check. Nothing new even in expansion this game is a huge step back from d3. Poe2 incoming see you there.
This is so weird. Im not experiencing any of these problems. I have almost 2 billion gold. Im not even sure how i got all that gold. All my gear is fully masterworked. Ive found so many mythic unique's that i just salvage them without a thought now. Im having a lot of fun with D4 and it upsets me that others are having such terrible luck.
PS: Poe2 is good , I'm playing both couch co-op and having a blast. Waiting for poe2 launch on ps5 playing couch co-op D3 on a ps4 pro getting baked with brother. Then sobered up as poe2 whooped our butts with D4 breaks for World bosses , helping friends. Life is good
I didn't mind master working before the new season because the infernal hordes gave us a tone of gold, but now we dont have that its but boring and tedious
lmao i played 3 full weeks after the expansion hit, got to paragon 280, had all bis items with 3-4GA and perfect passives, spend hooourss of my time into the trading website, made billions and billions of gold to then buy bis item piece by piece and i got burned out. which is common! and usually takes only 2 weeks to reach that point after every new season started. happy to see poe2 tomorrow! finally a next gen, deep arpg with limitless options and end game content.
Its a crazy system, I hit burn out when I made a new character then i just straight up quit after a full week of farming gold and got nothing. I cant wait for PoE2
Same. Hundreds of hours in this season. Still don't have max aspects or perfect masterworks. Feels bad. Not enough to do and zero rewards for the content that exists. The structure of the game has tons of potential. The game is an unfinished money grab and probably won't change
Along similar lines, I'm trying to better my Quill Volley, run HUNDREDS of boss runs on Tourment IV and I haven't seen anything better then a 1 GA Kepeleke. I haven't seen anything better then a 1 GA Legendary drop either. HUNDREDS of hours grinding and nothing. I stopped playing and really don't have an interest in continuing to grind. Many of these other videos show incredible equipment/builds and I can't even find a decent 2 GA glove or pants much less a decent Kepeleke or ring. Seems like there should be some formula like number of hours without a good drop should yield one. I think they call it a Mercy Rule?
Honestly dont see any point playing the game till the add another new class in a season or two,doubt they gonna do a rehaul of the masterys and abilities.
I stopped buying Blizzard products when d3 launched. I did not even buy the expansion with the necro. I knew then Bliz was done making quality products by that point.
The only way to get gold is via trade, sadly. Last season you could farm way more gold in infernal hordes. Also even if you get gold via trade the next bottleneck will be mats, specifically veiled crystal
I loved the old infernal hordes. With a system like this we are always going to be missing something, I shouldn't have to rely on trading items to other players to get gold surely other players will also have the same issues once they bough an item via trade. If this is how they want gold to work where is the market place?
I stopped playing because I find it insane to run the same things over and over and over trying to get the same item with just more stars on it. I think 3 star and 4 star gear should drop in a certain torment level, that isnt doable without maxing your 1 and 2 star gear out first, something like that. its just a random mess. Sometimes I get the blacksmith crits on my first to 3rd try, but then other times its just a blackhole of resources. And, at the end of the day. I am farming and putting my time into a class that is going to be nerfed beyond belief. So all my hard work is for nothing. The SB will be absolute crap next year. We will never do quadrillions of damage like we have this season again. I have achievements on steam that say only 0.6 % of players have achieved. I guess I'm doing pretty good, but man, its just a repetitive mess.
Blizzard are champions to create artificial playtime, same thing for WoW, you got addicted to your weekly reset vault to get your high dopamine shot every reset and then you are doing your 15 th heroic raid run to not see your bis drop, or when it drops you roll either for 3 or 98 but you will see always some guy roll 100, it's ridiculous and there is no way for anti RNG badluck, fuck this game and this company.
As a 20yr vet of d2 I feel that the d2 grind for a perfect character, depending on what you wanted, could be insane. Is the d4 grind for a perfect character on average more grinding and less inspired, probably. Is it radically different in my opinion, NO. I see newbies to the game that don't like the grind for perfect gear, which is not a joke but a statement. I don't blame anyone that doesn't like the grind, but it's not new...
I'm defiantly not new to Diablo and to the grind of games, Iv played D2, 3 and 4 and on top of that Iv play EvE Online since 2007, I got a tone of hours in Warframe and World of Tanks. I know a grind when I play one, but I also know a bad mechanic when I see one. These items that I'm looking for CANT DROP you have to master work them in which you are looking at a slot machine and having to roll a triple six on 8 items at over 7 mill Gold per spin. Gold is boring to farm and you dont get nearly enough for the amount that you need to throw into this system. I am playing the game for fun and I am no longer having fun gambling my time away, and by reading the comments neither does anyone else. This isnt a challenge on who can grind the most its just about having fun on a game that I used to love playing.
Iam at the same point now with rerolling for my spiritborn.... After 50 million spend on rerolling you should be able to choose the stat you want on it. Had enough of it and i bought PoE2 and uninstalled D4. Used to love Blizzard but fuck me how the mighty have fallen.
I left after season 5. Did not buy the VOH expansion. Simply wasn't worth the money with the features and Co-OP only content. Never looking back while Blizzard thinks that's worth endgame content. Just so happy I left when I did.
I left on season 3 and come back for the expansion, and I really enjoyed the start and the new class its just when I got the the end game grind it burn me out faster then anything before
I think trading will solve your issue with gold. People selling things in trade sites for billions. That way you can focus on farming Obs. This solves my issue with gold by trading items. I only traded i think 5 times and I have 25b+.
I stopped playing after I finished the expansion content and most of the end game. I loved D4, played all the seasons and have a max lvl character of every class with good gear. The expansion was lack luster at best and I just got bored of the game. I can only play a game for so long, a year is far longer than just about any other game I've played.
I'm so, so glad I never purchased D4; I was interested for a change after 1,400 hours of Grim Dawn, but after how all these 'AAA' studios have treated us like fools for the longest time, I wanted them to earn my trust. This never happened, and videos like this further cement my decision. "Roll" on, POE2, we can't wait for you.
The "AAA" studios are trying to do us dirty and iv also had enough of it as well, Its just i that I have a deep love for the game and unfortunately now I'm here.
The reason why gold is gatekeeped is because its the trading currency, so for it to be a none factor, trading would get ridiculous. Aka ask for trillions of hold for 4 rolled aspect for example. This is under the presumption that people cant dupe and people arent exploiting the game. The trade function and economy is ruined anyway. In addition, its because this game is a forced psudo MMO. warframe, this is not. Tl:dr, they should have an addition currency (farmable in game) to trade with, and not gold. Which is used for in game upgrades.
I agree with that, I was also thinking about a system that you keep it RNG and try your luck but there is also a scroll you can go farm late game in the pit at like 70+ or something that allows you to lock in a stat of your choosing.
honestly I am more surprised you got this far into trying to get the perfect roll and not just do the math of how improbable it is and just quit months ago lol
There is no Diablo in a Diablo game. Quit after season 1, since my preorder battle pass got auto unlocked. It was my last time giving that company any money. I'm still very confused people still play this game as I don't understand the point of it. I have since been working on a holy grail for D2r on single player waiting for EA POE2.
Well Diablo is trapped in the soul stone from D3 which malthael consumed in the DLC so not sure whats really happening there. I dont really play this game for the story I play it just to kill tones of demons with a build that I made and every time I come back I pray that its good and get kicked every time.
I wish when I bought the game it came with full gear unlimited gold n all ingame materials plus not have to grind more than 15 sec to accomplish whatever.. and why do we not have a Bot that plays for us!.. I know all I do is complain.. you know what? I quit!
I would re-watch the video properly before you type next time because I never complained about anything you just mentioned. I quit coz I'm gambling my time away and I'm tired of there being no way to get a real amount gold. You wouldnt have this opinion if you spent over 1k hours on this season alone which you clearly havnt. So go play the game and come back to the comments.
I put my last hope in s7 ptr, god, it was so boring. I pushed myself to play 4 hours but cant help. The new system seems similar to vampire powers, but it was actually so much different. These are just standalone skills, gives nothing extra to your build fantasy. So i finally uninstalled the game for my own mental health. 😂
Here is the crazy part I spend over 20B in gold over 400k audicite / when it comes to reset gear that's freaking expensive*** stupid the game is. Shi** and some many waste gear which it's hard to come by" don't waste your time on this game
It’s hilarious when someone complains about rng lol! Gold has never been a problem to me. Highest pit is 130 for spiritborn and 101 on sorc then i’m done for the season. Got billions of gold and tripled mw for my gears. There is no point of pushing further. And yes, in enjoyed my time playing.
I’m tired of games that only makes games harder by increasing health and dmg of enemies. Make it harder with abilities u need to dodge or cd on skills u need to time. Check lost at raid bosses
That good if you are getting that many but on multiple streams you can see me farming them and get none in 30 mins sometimes 1 or 2. My point was that the RNG should be on the loot and the rolls not the item that i need to get money for the loot and the rolls
There is no RMT in the game gold can only be grinded for. If your having to rly on the plays that use RMT in games to keep the gold moving its just a poorly though about system
Thats how and why I play games to do the max amount of damage I can with my fantasy character that I want to be as powerful as possible so I can push top tier content. We all play games differently and I'll WILL be jumping into PoE2
Fun fact: Faster aether events on IH will give you more aether... Also, you dont reroll your masterwork, you reroll tempers. You acquire gold by playing the game...
besides that masterworking is a really bad system, the real bottleneck is obducite...I don't want to waste 2 hours farming obducite in hordes (boring and underwhelming imho) to only be able to go and have a couple rolls - maybe. Then you'll start running out of veiled crystals, iron chunks, rawhide... it's just not worth spending time on this game sadly. Gold is not too big of an issue if you're trading but the costs in general, both gold and materials are outrageous especially for an average person that cannot throw 100+ hours a week into this shitty game.
you forgot farming bosses so u can get chunks and rawhide in between farming gold and obducite, days anmd days of hours and hours for absolutely no reward or progression at all i feel so disrespected for my time, just sitting online pulling on the slot arm PoE is amazing man, come have some fun and leave this shyt behind
All I hear is: "I will play PoE 2 and forget about D IV within minutes".
I approve.
Why people still put money in blizzards wallet is a mystery to me.
@@atmas1337 coz we pray that they give us want we want and we fall for it everytime
Because I will always have fun with their games. And so do my friends.
Look at the dude in this video. Explains it all.
Because some of us still like the games they put out. People having different opinions than the hivemind is a mystery to you?
@@LordMadzington stockholm syndrome
D4 will never fix itself, it'll always be a game you play for a week whenever there's a new season or expansion, and then go back to playing better games. Blizzard have had so many last chances that it's just sad at this point, and it won't matter how many attempts they make at trying to fix it; they're incompetent from the top to the bottom and it'll always lead to band aiding and polishing turds.
I'm telling you, once you play PoE 2 you'll never main D4 ever again, it'll be a brief blip in your consciousness whenever they release lackluster, 0% effort seasonal release number #425, this time with double treasure goblin spawns, cooooool.
Diablo has lost it's soul, and so long as Blizzard are managing it; it'll always be that way.
I agree that, its 100% lost its soul and it sad to see the game that i once loved played go completely down the drain. D4 had so much potential, but i guess making sure the investors are happy with metric numbers is more important then making the people that play the game happy.
This is what happens when you turn a hobby into a job.
Beyond truth. This is wisdom.
Fighting Tormentted bosses for hours and hours and no Mythic drop. I'm convinced Blizz hates me.
Essentially an RNG locked behind RNG locked behind RNG locked behind RNG simulator.
I think you recognise the problem wrong . Its not that you have to split your work in two. Gold and the obduside. The problem is that both of these are so fucking boring and pointelss to farm and also the reward ( masterworking ) is even more boring . You just feel for the whole time you play that you dont chase cool fantasy items like swrords or treasures like diamonds etc etc. You feel like you slaving away to change numbers in a meaningless chart.
@kwstasgavras2802 not wrong
It took us all long enough. S5 seemed hopeful, I’ve lost all my hope with the empty expansion and S6.
Well, PoE2 is out soon. Say GB to D3
i cant wait for PoE2
@@LordMadzington tomorrow BB!
@ciszaiogien You can play games that have trading and just not trade. It's literally that simple, trading is optional.
On the verge of quitting Diablo myself, and I've been playing since the closed beta. My main STILL doesn't have an ancestral pair of boots or a ring that I need. Way too many variables on items, and throw in the tempering/bricking and master working issues you've mentioned and it frustrates the hell out of me. Then, in a couple of weeks when the new season starts, it'll all be for nothing and the frustration will start all over again. Life's too short.
Make me laugh D4 shills thinking they will go to POE2 and expecting they can zoom zoom (D4 style) with broken builds and get exactly what they want, you will all quickly go back to D4 as POE2 is 100 times more complicated and you will probably never get or craft the items you want or need.
Crafting something isn't luck on POE, its deterministic. If you don't know about Path of exile 2 then you shoukd probably be quiet cuz your ignorance is showing.
I get that you're probably just repeating something you've heard from someone else, but you don't need perfect minmaxed gear to clear content in PoE. There isn't any content that walls everything but the 1 or 2 most meta builds like the Pit in Diablo 4, by the time you reach the problem in this video you're already clearing all content on pretty much any skill but a select few.
Bro I feel your pain. Blizzard designed the game that way. They know. Blizzard is and has been notorious for creating a problem in their own game only to turn around and sell you the solution.
Nah no set items is just straight up insulting. Leftism ruins everything.
For me, it was the fact that I was spending hours like you trying to masterwork my gear and I was getting nowhere. So I decided to go back to my old main, but the problem is my old main (necro) was nowhere near as powerful as SB and I just got bored. Then POE2 hit and I just can't go back now.
I've just uninstalled it! I cannot accept any longer the rubber banding and freezing. I have tried lowering the settings to lowest point, tried every fix from the forums and I conclude it's just broken for certain people. It makes no difference where my settings are and yes some people have no issues. So I deduce they have certain servers that are an issue and I am on one of them. I cannot accept loading the game up and for 20 minutes my SSD is working massively and in any gameplay I die as I cannot do anything without it freezing. So it's gone and I am moving on. Sad really as in November it was fine and now all of a sudden completely unplayable.
@enigma7791 I will never understand why they though it was a good idea to make it online only iv died to lag so many time I just gave up on hardcore
There are a billion reasons why I quitted as well. The only thing I liked about the game were the fights. When I pay for a job at the enchanter or blacksmith. I want a job well done. Not a chance to win a spoiled bread and brick my gear after millions or billions of gold spent. This system is the most ridiculous system ever implemented in a game. I'm not going to play a game for 1 thing they did right. This whole system of paying for a CHANCE to get what you need has to go. I pay for something, give it. If this was real life? ... don't let me even mention what would happen. And then there is the fact YOU need to supply the resources for the enchanter or blacksmith to mess your gear up! Why are we even paying? If I pay, it means I get what I ask for. Not in Diablo. You pay for your frustrations and raging.
Couldn't put it better myself
I wish we could buy and place resources to craft what we want to build, without gamble system. Let us just have fun!
D4 is the best thing that happened to PoE. So many people discovered they like ARPG due to D4. Then realized that PoE is better in every possible way.
Which is funny since PoE got made after D3 went live. The developers were so disappointed, they made PoE lol
PoE gained less than 2% more players since D4 launched , you can see the damn player counts.
Here is a Reality check :
The only way under New Zealand Law and international trade agreements that Tencent could 100% own and control GGG as it is listed BY THEM is if GGG was headed for bankruptcy, THATS THE ONLY time it's allowed for Chinese company to be soul owner and control. So PoE1 was a financial failure UNTIL they opened China server , then Tencent put more money and buying more of company and we got the first Real poe2 news and vids . PoE2 is awesome, but it's Tencent made not GGG .
But yes PoE2 is very good
I feel your pain. Intensely. I am the definition of a casual player but I've been with the series since D2. I'm actually ok with having to think about gold... As long as I get something good out of it.
There are no good gear farm mechanics so you never get the equipment you need. Then, when you finally get it, you brick it at the mystic. If you make it past the mystic, you brick it at the blacksmith. Then you spend days trying to get enough to masterwork and then hours rolling and re-rolling just hoping to get the stat you need. Now you have ONE piece of gear that you can use. Joy!
They should:
Get rid of Interminable Hordes
Make nightmare dungeons the farm for great gear
Make Hecktides the farm for keys and boss summoning material
Pits are Ok the way they are but it would be nice if they were bigger and more open
Let mystic and blacksmith do what they do now but tone down or eliminate the RNG. Maybe they would use resources from NMD or pits?
Do SOMETHING to make this don't to play. ANYTHING! I'm really thinking about going back to D3.
Fun to play. Stupid autocorrect!
im so excited to that path-like game D4's player count tank when POE2 comes out.
I dont want D4 to die, I just wish they would make a game for the players and not for metrics
@@LordMadzington If it does, maybe they will learn a lesson. People keep buying their shit, that's why they don't change anything.
Farming obductite from Infernal hordes and nightmare dungeons to masterwork gear is exhausting but satisfying at the same time. I only do the hordes for whispers now because after getting so many (200) aether chests they're dropping junk gear that I scrap. Elites and nightmare dungeon bosses should give more obductite. I love Diablo and Santuary but sometimes you have to not play for a day or two to keep from burnout.
And this is why I lasted 1.5 seasons. It was a turn off from the beginning, paid 150cdn for the platinum and it was definitely a platinum POS. You grind and don’t get a single platinum coin, you don’t earn a new season, they force you spend real money every season to join that season. It’s been my major disappointment of gaming. Even if they refunded my money I wouldn’t play this game for free. I wish I could gift it to someone but it’s a reminder to have on my pc to not buy into the hype.
Got POE2 yesterday and it is challenging, but awesome. It’ll take work but I have time. I won’t be wasting it ever again on a blizzard game, Blizzard is dead to me.
It completely baffles me that the prices - both gold and mats - are so ridiculously high in this game. It's like it's trying to be an MMO, making player retention a priority to keep those monthly subs rolling in. Instead, we get an overly pricey game, with overly pricey MTX that nobody wants to spend money on, that we get to waste hundreds of hours to grind the gold and materials we need to...fail to upgrade things. Repeatedly. Sometimes permanently.
It's like going to your favorite ice cream shop, but you have to smash your PP in a door in order to enjoy it.
The most boring part of D4 is the loot system, which is the worst possible thing for an ARPG. If loot sucks, the game sucks.
I dont mind the loot, Its just the amount of stuff you need to go farm for things is wild
I played it through Pass and it felt like a chore to play.
@@PoisonousRakun it is very grindy with little reward
Diablo 4 substituted terrible RNG instead of legitimate gameplay mechanics, story and replayability. They deserved their fate. I logged back in to look around. After a day of seeing Spiritborn (Pay to win) insta killing bosses while 5 others barely scratched it, I immediately uninstalled and will never play it again.
That wasnt intentional, they broke the multiplier in one of the passives and it just went nuts, but yeah they didnt fix it and so it stayed nuts. Its only that build and that does that damage and i stayed away from it. The class is very fun to play but the RNG of the game killed it for me
That is why I quit after I realized the skill trees are limited to a max of three diff builds. Did it season one then two. Came back to check. Nothing new even in expansion this game is a huge step back from d3. Poe2 incoming see you there.
This is so weird. Im not experiencing any of these problems. I have almost 2 billion gold. Im not even sure how i got all that gold. All my gear is fully masterworked. Ive found so many mythic unique's that i just salvage them without a thought now. Im having a lot of fun with D4 and it upsets me that others are having such terrible luck.
Same reason I quit. The game/Devs don’t respect our time.
PS: Poe2 is good , I'm playing both couch co-op and having a blast.
Waiting for poe2 launch on ps5 playing couch co-op D3 on a ps4 pro getting baked with brother. Then sobered up as poe2 whooped our butts with D4 breaks for World bosses , helping friends.
Life is good
I saved myself the cost of an expansion... I quit when they did the Gear Rework and realized that it was crap.
I didn't mind master working before the new season because the infernal hordes gave us a tone of gold, but now we dont have that its but boring and tedious
Same here bro I never hit the same stat 3 times in a row such a pain on Matt's and obducite
lmao i played 3 full weeks after the expansion hit, got to paragon 280, had all bis items with 3-4GA and perfect passives, spend hooourss of my time into the trading website, made billions and billions of gold to then buy bis item piece by piece and i got burned out. which is common! and usually takes only 2 weeks to reach that point after every new season started.
happy to see poe2 tomorrow! finally a next gen, deep arpg with limitless options and end game content.
Its a crazy system, I hit burn out when I made a new character then i just straight up quit after a full week of farming gold and got nothing. I cant wait for PoE2
Same. Hundreds of hours in this season. Still don't have max aspects or perfect masterworks. Feels bad. Not enough to do and zero rewards for the content that exists. The structure of the game has tons of potential. The game is an unfinished money grab and probably won't change
its a shame blizzard did this to the game the system really does suck, it could have been so good
I can't stand the gambling aspects.
I didnt even bother grinding them your never going to get want not in this game
This sounds just like playing WoW spending hours and hours, weeks and weeks for a meta piece of gear to drop and it never does
And then the next expansion drops and that piece of gear is completely irrelevant.
Along similar lines, I'm trying to better my Quill Volley, run HUNDREDS of boss runs on Tourment IV and I haven't seen anything better then a 1 GA Kepeleke. I haven't seen anything better then a 1 GA Legendary drop either. HUNDREDS of hours grinding and nothing. I stopped playing and really don't have an interest in continuing to grind. Many of these other videos show incredible equipment/builds and I can't even find a decent 2 GA glove or pants much less a decent Kepeleke or ring. Seems like there should be some formula like number of hours without a good drop should yield one. I think they call it a Mercy Rule?
Honestly dont see any point playing the game till the add another new class in a season or two,doubt they gonna do a rehaul of the masterys and abilities.
I stopped buying Blizzard products when d3 launched. I did not even buy the expansion with the necro. I knew then Bliz was done making quality products by that point.
The only way to get gold is via trade, sadly. Last season you could farm way more gold in infernal hordes. Also even if you get gold via trade the next bottleneck will be mats, specifically veiled crystal
I loved the old infernal hordes. With a system like this we are always going to be missing something, I shouldn't have to rely on trading items to other players to get gold surely other players will also have the same issues once they bough an item via trade. If this is how they want gold to work where is the market place?
rod messed up big time
@@TombstoneTales01 there's to many mess ups to count
I stopped playing because I find it insane to run the same things over and over and over trying to get the same item with just more stars on it. I think 3 star and 4 star gear should drop in a certain torment level, that isnt doable without maxing your 1 and 2 star gear out first, something like that. its just a random mess. Sometimes I get the blacksmith crits on my first to 3rd try, but then other times its just a blackhole of resources. And, at the end of the day. I am farming and putting my time into a class that is going to be nerfed beyond belief. So all my hard work is for nothing. The SB will be absolute crap next year. We will never do quadrillions of damage like we have this season again. I have achievements on steam that say only 0.6 % of players have achieved. I guess I'm doing pretty good, but man, its just a repetitive mess.
Blizzard are champions to create artificial playtime, same thing for WoW, you got addicted to your weekly reset vault to get your high dopamine shot every reset and then you are doing your 15 th heroic raid run to not see your bis drop, or when it drops you roll either for 3 or 98 but you will see always some guy roll 100, it's ridiculous and there is no way for anti RNG badluck, fuck this game and this company.
As a 20yr vet of d2 I feel that the d2 grind for a perfect character, depending on what you wanted, could be insane. Is the d4 grind for a perfect character on average more grinding and less inspired, probably. Is it radically different in my opinion, NO. I see newbies to the game that don't like the grind for perfect gear, which is not a joke but a statement. I don't blame anyone that doesn't like the grind, but it's not new...
I'm defiantly not new to Diablo and to the grind of games, Iv played D2, 3 and 4 and on top of that Iv play EvE Online since 2007, I got a tone of hours in Warframe and World of Tanks. I know a grind when I play one, but I also know a bad mechanic when I see one. These items that I'm looking for CANT DROP you have to master work them in which you are looking at a slot machine and having to roll a triple six on 8 items at over 7 mill Gold per spin. Gold is boring to farm and you dont get nearly enough for the amount that you need to throw into this system. I am playing the game for fun and I am no longer having fun gambling my time away, and by reading the comments neither does anyone else. This isnt a challenge on who can grind the most its just about having fun on a game that I used to love playing.
Iam at the same point now with rerolling for my spiritborn....
After 50 million spend on rerolling you should be able to choose the stat you want on it.
Had enough of it and i bought PoE2 and uninstalled D4.
Used to love Blizzard but fuck me how the mighty have fallen.
@@drlmothanos8091 I feel you it really does suck I had such high hopes for the game
This is funny as. Welcome to the grind…. 😂 how do you think is casual gamer dads feel.
Its not a grind, its gambling with my time
d4 has builds?
I left after season 5. Did not buy the VOH expansion. Simply wasn't worth the money with the features and Co-OP only content. Never looking back while Blizzard thinks that's worth endgame content. Just so happy I left when I did.
I left on season 3 and come back for the expansion, and I really enjoyed the start and the new class its just when I got the the end game grind it burn me out faster then anything before
Blizzard isnt what it was and just needs to go away. Help it go away.
I'd give you a consulting pad on the back but I'm gonna need five million gold first
I think trading will solve your issue with gold. People selling things in trade sites for billions. That way you can focus on farming Obs.
This solves my issue with gold by trading items. I only traded i think 5 times and I have 25b+.
Welcome exile !!!
I stopped playing after I finished the expansion content and most of the end game. I loved D4, played all the seasons and have a max lvl character of every class with good gear. The expansion was lack luster at best and I just got bored of the game. I can only play a game for so long, a year is far longer than just about any other game I've played.
I'm so, so glad I never purchased D4; I was interested for a change after 1,400 hours of Grim Dawn, but after how all these 'AAA' studios have treated us like fools for the longest time, I wanted them to earn my trust.
This never happened, and videos like this further cement my decision. "Roll" on, POE2, we can't wait for you.
The "AAA" studios are trying to do us dirty and iv also had enough of it as well, Its just i that I have a deep love for the game and unfortunately now I'm here.
Sadly the game probably does this with toxic coding to increase play time, only to achieve the opposite affect
Thats how i feel as well
Just 1 more day till you can play a very good "Diablo-like" a game that will meet your gamer needs for sure :)
@@Therealfjood can't wait it's already downloading
The reason why gold is gatekeeped is because its the trading currency, so for it to be a none factor, trading would get ridiculous. Aka ask for trillions of hold for 4 rolled aspect for example.
This is under the presumption that people cant dupe and people arent exploiting the game. The trade function and economy is ruined anyway.
In addition, its because this game is a forced psudo MMO. warframe, this is not.
Tl:dr, they should have an addition currency (farmable in game) to trade with, and not gold. Which is used for in game upgrades.
imagine playing hardcore, having to do it more than once xD
I would be okay if they Make each upgrade cost 5 million gold and double the obducite requirements per level but let us choose the path
I agree with that, I was also thinking about a system that you keep it RNG and try your luck but there is also a scroll you can go farm late game in the pit at like 70+ or something that allows you to lock in a stat of your choosing.
honestly I am more surprised you got this far into trying to get the perfect roll and not just do the math of how improbable it is and just quit months ago lol
Thats how i got here I spend over a few bill gold and didnt get anything and then did the math and felt sick
@LordMadzington well better sooner rather than later I guess hahaha. Poe2 even more hyped now
@@framinthor 100% I cant wait
There is no Diablo in a Diablo game. Quit after season 1, since my preorder battle pass got auto unlocked. It was my last time giving that company any money. I'm still very confused people still play this game as I don't understand the point of it. I have since been working on a holy grail for D2r on single player waiting for EA POE2.
Well Diablo is trapped in the soul stone from D3 which malthael consumed in the DLC so not sure whats really happening there. I dont really play this game for the story I play it just to kill tones of demons with a build that I made and every time I come back I pray that its good and get kicked every time.
D4 got many problems but getting no rewards for doing something big is main one imho
just feels rubbish and burnt me out very quickly
I wish when I bought the game it came with full gear unlimited gold n all ingame materials plus not have to grind more than 15 sec to accomplish whatever.. and why do we not have a Bot that plays for us!.. I know all I do is complain.. you know what? I quit!
I would re-watch the video properly before you type next time because I never complained about anything you just mentioned. I quit coz I'm gambling my time away and I'm tired of there being no way to get a real amount gold. You wouldnt have this opinion if you spent over 1k hours on this season alone which you clearly havnt. So go play the game and come back to the comments.
I put my last hope in s7 ptr, god, it was so boring. I pushed myself to play 4 hours but cant help.
The new system seems similar to vampire powers, but it was actually so much different. These are just standalone skills, gives nothing extra to your build fantasy.
So i finally uninstalled the game for my own mental health. 😂
Here is the crazy part I spend over 20B in gold over 400k audicite / when it comes to reset gear that's freaking expensive*** stupid the game is. Shi** and some many waste gear which it's hard to come by" don't waste your time on this game
It’s hilarious when someone complains about rng lol! Gold has never been a problem to me. Highest pit is 130 for spiritborn and 101 on sorc then i’m done for the season. Got billions of gold and tripled mw for my gears. There is no point of pushing further. And yes, in enjoyed my time playing.
well im happy that you manage to get all your rolls on different characters not all of us are as lucky as you and yes i say lucky
I’m tired of games that only makes games harder by increasing health and dmg of enemies.
Make it harder with abilities u need to dodge or cd on skills u need to time.
Check lost at raid bosses
I agree with that specially for a company so large the can defiantly come up with more creative ways for making things more difficult
THEY DONT SAY D4 BAD FOR NO REASON BRO. ENJOY POE 2
Its WAY too much RNG. You can spend hours and get nothing out.
the RNG is nuts
masterworking can be anoying. The compass numbers are kinda off tho. You get like 15 in 30 minutes. although not all 10 waves, that is rng too.
That good if you are getting that many but on multiple streams you can see me farming them and get none in 30 mins sometimes 1 or 2. My point was that the RNG should be on the loot and the rolls not the item that i need to get money for the loot and the rolls
Gold comes from trading with the bots and RMT players 😅 you find 1 good item, you can trade it for dozens of billions
There is no RMT in the game gold can only be grinded for. If your having to rly on the plays that use RMT in games to keep the gold moving its just a poorly though about system
Well for sure poe2 cant offer perfection in gear ....Better stay away with same feback one poe2 pleas !
Thats how and why I play games to do the max amount of damage I can with my fantasy character that I want to be as powerful as possible so I can push top tier content. We all play games differently and I'll WILL be jumping into PoE2
Fun fact: Faster aether events on IH will give you more aether...
Also, you dont reroll your masterwork, you reroll tempers.
You acquire gold by playing the game...
thank yoou
you casuals think can play POE?
End game svck nothing to do with
9:41 sorry to disappoint you, Diablo is not in the game.😏
Yeah that rng sucks ass. I quit a few weeks ago myself. Hopefully poe2 is as good as it looks
same here i cant wait
besides that masterworking is a really bad system, the real bottleneck is obducite...I don't want to waste 2 hours farming obducite in hordes (boring and underwhelming imho) to only be able to go and have a couple rolls - maybe. Then you'll start running out of veiled crystals, iron chunks, rawhide... it's just not worth spending time on this game sadly.
Gold is not too big of an issue if you're trading but the costs in general, both gold and materials are outrageous especially for an average person that cannot throw 100+ hours a week into this shitty game.
PoE2 this way ---->
you forgot farming bosses so u can get chunks and rawhide in between farming gold and obducite,
days anmd days of hours and hours for absolutely no reward or progression at all
i feel so disrespected for my time, just sitting online pulling on the slot arm
PoE is amazing man, come have some fun and leave this shyt behind
i played the first season.. stoped because of this shit mechanic..
@SooMSooM.7460 yeah the first season was lacking
Suddenly pissed off at D4? Just before the release of PoE 2? You quickly change camps Diablo 4 fanatics xD. P.S D4 is dog shit
Poe boys
Ok bye.
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😂😂 man i hope poe's upgrade system is not rng
I am sorry to say, but you are gonna suffer in PoE 2 when you are noobing this much in D4 on the spiritborn...
Delte it and forgot like a bad tv show.
Go play Poe 2
PoE 2 is the only answer u need bro. D4 burned me tf out
i cant wait for the game to come out im just sat here looking at the time pass XD
Bye!
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quit for the same reason aswell as lack of scrolls which makes pushing pits on hc even possible
@TheYummyAbscess I'm just stuck right now and I just cba to carry on
I deleted all my 6 hc caractère and uninstall thé game bye bye blizzard im done