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- Go Kart Axles ( 3 Primary Types )
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In this video I talk about the three main types of go kart axles, dead axle, live axle and a differential.
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Fast forward 20 years. T-man's building rocket powered walkers, souped up wheel chairs, and still has a tarp instead of a door! :P
I just had an idea to make a go kart sort of thing this morning and I've been looking for hours for an explanation of how the axles work. Great explanation and clear visuals. Thanks for the help!
I want to thank you Mr.t man bc ive been looking all over you tube and ur the only one that took the time to eplain a axle thank u
your welcome Jonathan, glad to be of some help. Good luck on your build.
wow ... very informative .... i loved the spacer part .... diddnt even think of that ... thanks
Im re-purposing a live axle for a non go kart machine... Your video was a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for taking the time to make it!
Ryan French what did you end up using? I'm trying to find a cheap way to convert to live axle
Very informative. I like how you take your time to explaining everything step-by-step great video man
Might be old info but I still watched it all the way through. Man I love than your channel is growing. :)
Also I'll be getting a lathe soon, so once my welding ability is up, I am so going to make some minibikes and karts and stuff! Will finally be able to join in haha.
Larger diameter axles , solid or tubular , will handle greater torque without twisting . Chrome moly steel is about 2X the strength of high tensile carbon steel in the same size . Great job !
Awesome channel!! I'm attempting to throw an engine into an old electric golf cart and this video helped me!
I run a dead axle on my drift trike. I used 2 old snapper wheels and drilled out the 2 wheels so it would match my hub and I had to make another hub for the passenger side. I put 8 inch trims on it. Works great
There is a 4th type. And I am setting up my cart that way. The engine drives a jack shaft w/o gear reduction. The jack shaft has 2 centrifugal clutches one for each wheel. This is positive traction. Too much scuffing with a live axle whenever you are on a road or pavement. This setup has two independent axles one for each wheel and mounts almost reaching the other axle.
Thanks for posting. I'm starting a build and your video was very informative, especially the visual example of the live axle.
this video hits the spot i have a dead axle and trying to make it a live axle i know its alot of work but wish somebody would do it for me
Oh my god thanks man, i've been looking for this type of information for a very long time and i've finally found it. Thanks!
Please help me...iam confused...
Iam planning to make a buggy with a 150cc 4stroke bike engine(15bhp).
Is live axle OK for that?
I have 2 differentials from old ride on lawnmowers 1 I'm going to use and keep the other as a spare!
A jack shaft set up, between the engine and differential, is what you want. Comet clutch-engine/jack shaft then chain-jack shaft/differential, then brakes on both sides of axle. When I was a kid I had a Montgomery Wards 3 wheeler with this set up, 8 horse Tecumseh. Tough set up! Took everything I could dish out until the engine gave the ghost (took about 12 years). At that point I put a JLO 17 horse snowmobile engine on it. That drive train still took the abuse for another 8 years up to and after I sold it! Later on I learned it's the same live axle that sells at northern hydraulics. Just a little 411. Like videos and builds BTW.
awesome vid man. Spacers are a great idea!
Very interesting I didn't know about the different axles .
Finally a straight forward answer
My gokart axle doesn't have any rust on it. I drive it in water, dirt everything even mud and no rust. Set screws are pretty trusting. Only one time my sprocket set screws vibrated loose and I ended up with my chain falling off. I drive on smooth cement and dirt which doesn't make it too hard to steer with no differential but on a rough asphalt road, it's tricky to turn. I have to speed up a bit then make my turn. Most of the times I don't make a full u turn.
that was exactly what i was looking for thank you :)
Thank you for such an in depth instructional tutorial. I have learn't a great deal about axles tonight. Going with things coming undone. Would you recommend castle nuts on the wheels with split pins? Just like they have on cars, trucks etc.
love your videos dude!
O'Great ... Thank You !!!!! Can't wait to see how to do this.
I built a small rail buggy about 12 years ago it turned out great but this video would have been a lot of help.
Lots of useful info
Thank you, go cart God.
you can use that axle as a bar bell and do some pumping up your muscles :0)
What about drilling and tapping holes in the spacers and adding grease zerks? This way you can shoot a little grease in there to lube and protect.
yeah, that might work, as long as the spacers are made of some thick walled stuff.
Have you ever drilled the axle for the set screws to screw into? Also, aren't dead axles more steerable on the road?
You have to put a brake disc and a brake caliper on each axle so you are required or should put two brakes on the rear axle Peerless makes a differential and sodas comet I have a differential on my Dingo and it's made by comet and it's got twin Disc Brakes in the back
Thanks in a million. Great content. Awesome. Grade: A++💥
hey, right now I'm collecting info and tips to build a go kart. I want to build a go kart which can switch between a live and dead axle. The live axle will be for off road driving because the tires can slip, and the dead axle for on road. I think that the easiest way to do this is to cut the axle in half and connect it with a manual clutch. Is this practical? or should I just stick with a live axle?
thank u t man great presentation this was just what I was looking for an intelligent video
When you going live again? I was eastnc last Sat night. That was pretty cool and funny at times...I'd do it again as it stands now. I want to build again in the near future but have some financial,shop,other projects and problems to deal with before I can and can truly enjoy doing it.
Yea it definitely looks like it's already getting cold there from some of the snow footage I've seen on the news lately! I mean damn!! It's too early for that already!
Take care bro
Ok I got a question about my go kart T Man. It's a beast that some amusement parks would use. You could toss this thing down the grand Canyon and the frame would probably be unharmed. I'm pretty sure it had a dead axle on it at one point but someone put a solid racing quad axle on it (posi) it didn't have a motor but I had a 5.5 honda engine sitting around so I used it. Here's my problem. When on grass, this thing will not take off at all, the centrifugal clutch does not engage enough to get it going. What's my issue? Is it the posi axle or what are we looking at? And I have one of those centrifugal clutches with the 4 c shaped clips that open up as you accelerate instead of the spring that loops around type.
Thanks man.
What if you have a dead axle and want change it to a live
LOL. He's gotta go charge his battery so he can keep talking. Must be one of those new battery powered humans. LOL
Thanks for the information. I just got an old ken bar streaker (model #d-690). It has a differential but its missing the gears. Do you know where i can purchase the gears. The axle is 1in
My tip: Spray some clear coat into a little cup take a small brush and paint your CLEAN steel axle after it is installed, by turning the axle and holding the brush,
I did this and my axle stayed new looking, and yes it may make disassembly harder but it's worth no rust.
That is a good idea .. Thanks for sharing
That was nice of you, thanks to you too.
For a dead axle set up, is it possible to secure the one turning wheel so it turns the axle, which is attached to the other wheel? causing both wheels to turn with the engine? This seems like it would be do-able and would significantly reduce prices on the go kart im getting
This seems like the place where people would be knowledgeable. So my question is- Alot of people who build go karts drive them on standard style pavement. But they use heavy off road golf kart style tires. Wouldn't it be alot better to use 16" bicycle wheels with street treads. Wouldn't they allow you to cruise faster because they weigh less, and have the correct tire tread?
when ya said it as live axle .. how the left side tier is moving independently when ya movie the whole thing forward ? pleasw someonw reply me
I have never had a problem with the set screws on the bearings or the brakes. One time the sprocket on my gokart has shifted dramatically and my chain blew off. It was due to a loose, cheap set screw which the head of it stripped.
I'm restoring a manco dingo. with a live axle is one hub keyed in place and the other spins freely. that's what I have.
For the axle collar and the keys. How do it prevent the axle to sway side to side? where does it need to be fixed?
T-Man I have a question so I took a 4speed tranny out of a crastman LTE and took the spider Gerard of the shafts and then welded the shafts together could I use that as my axle for a racing go kart
What about the rose axle? Seen it on Gun's n Rose's. Man I'm gettin old ☆
DiyGoKarts are a cool bunch and do a lot of builds, but I find myself more here than there.
FearlessFront is the one I thought of when you said peerless, junk mowers may have that axle for builders.
Would u do a review on ur welder tman plz
you need two axles, one on each side of the diff like on a car if you want to use a
diff. then you need a brake on each end.
How wide have you gone on the rear axle before you ran into the turning problems you were talking bout
well about 40-45 inches is where you start to notice it'
Hey Tman I have a couple questions. Are the tires from the fullscreen from bmi and if so do you have the part number? Also do you know where I could get a premade chain tensioner for #40/41 chain?
Hey tman I am building a go kart for first time can u tell me a website for purchasing the live axle
I have a old muskit dune cat go-cart it had differential axle yay
hey tman i am also thinking about putting an automatic chain tensioner if i dont put it in line with the pivot of the rear what are your thoughts
Thanks a lot bro! SUPER HELPFUL!
For the first axle, if you swap the tires themselves with the other rear side, would you be able to install the sprokets and axles w bands on it?
if my axel is threaded on the ends, can i still fit them into my pillowblocks and sinch down the set screws onto the threaded portions?
Thank You for this video ‼️‼️✌🏼️✌🏼✌🏼 I too have a dead axel & want to make it live so I can put some nice drift tires and rims on. I was walking through your comments and like me not sure how it's done ❓❓❓❓is it possible for you to put a video together and show us how this is done. Thank You for this info it did answer some questions I was grinding on. I subbed to your site seems like ya have a lot of know how on karts.
+Mike Remvidas Thanks Mike. I havent had the opportunity to do a conversion on video (dead to Live) I'm hoping to soon because a neighbor wants me to do it to his. So ya there is a plan for it when he gets the money together and brings it over to me.
I would like to build a go kart using a riding mower transaxle and engine.
Soooooo helpful
No sarcasm :) very helpful
How do you remove the wheel that the power, brake, etc is connected from a dead axle?
Hello,
Can you list the parts that have gone into the axle you have on the bench?
-tyres size where you got it from
-rims size where you got it from
-axle size where you got it from
-etc
include the brakes you intend to use on this axles.
I wish I could buy/afford a complete axle like that. I have a Chinese offroad go kart which I modified and fitted with hydraulic brakes and changed the engine to GX390 with a 40series torque converter(Chinese), its got a lot of torque.
I would like to build a go kart with bigger tyres 13inc or bigger and use it to carry three four passangers as well as pull a trailer with kids in it. (That is not realy a go kart is it but you get the idea). I would be cool to pull kids around in the Kalahari sands.
hey T Man , we are planning to make an electric go kart.what is the required axle which we should use?
most, people will use a 1" axle regardless of whats driving it.
***** thanx a lot...how about using cvt for our electric kart?
you are a good man
What keeps your axle from sliding out besides having the wheels on each side. I got a 3/4 axle that goes into a pipe that welded part of the frame with 3/4 ID bearing on each side. But old axle stayed in pretty good new axle I purchased. It goes straight through and it flies out other side. Old axle had keyway just on the hub area and on the threads. New axle has keyway all the way down axle except on the threads. Do I have wrong axle ???
***** First of all, I really like your videos. Secondly, how do you attach the sprocket to the live axle. Thanks, and keep up the good work. :)
Andrew Waraksa lol, that is called a sprocket hub, be sure to look at your bolt pattern and size when looking for one.
***** thanks
what kind of welder do you perfer to use
Why not a regular home depot 1 inch bar. Isnt that tuff enough
u should do one on front axels
hey i just got a mini bike and it has front and rear shocks. the front shocks re hydraulic but need new fluid for them. how can i tell what tyoe and how much fluid to use for this. i cant find anything on here about how to do it or how to tell what they are. could you possibly help me pleas?
Have You ever thought about using a small automotive or golf cart sealed oil filled rear end?
Yep. But I'm not having any luck finding somthing like that. I dont want to buy a new one.
Hey tman wear do you get your bearings
Iron man relived 😅
Cold in Montana? Come to South Scatch.
I'm building a go kart. I'm having trouble with the rear end with the wheels I need to know how to attach them do they have bearings and them or not?
no you shouldnt have bearings in between the wheels and axle. Try doing a video on what you trying to do and post it on YT here and then let me know about it.
Were can I get that axle and bearings? Can you provide a link.
Now again iam confuses with the mounting of engine...i seen many small buggies with side mounted engine?
What is the main difference between mounting engine to side and middle?
I have a dead axle setup and the power side broke off what would be the best and the safest way to repair this any ideas would be helpful
get a live axle set up.
So is welding your sprocket to the axle a terrible idea?
yes, because if you dont get the alignment right then you'll have to grind it away and re do it.
How do you know what length axle you need for a go kart?
a few ways. look for axles that you can get then build everything off of that. Or think about how wide you want it to be then look around for an axle that would be 4-5 inches shorter because once you add the tires then the width should be about ideal width you wanted it to be.
Well Amazon has the 1 inch.. dif axle for 89 bucks.. I'm building a cart for my boy
Yes your helpful
Ty sir..
My question.. brake In the diff housing.... or better to run dual brake system on both drive tires?
I have a Murray kart with a live axle. The axle is out of alignment. The axle is enclosed in a pipe welded to the frame of the kart with no suspension with a bearing at either end. One side of the axle stick out farther than the other. I f I should how can I get the axle back to center?
I am making a go kart with my atv fram What type of swing arm do you recommend
If you can, try useing the swing arm from the ATV.
alright thanks
***** Hey In the near fututre i was thinking of putting two streetbike engines in a homemade buggy would you think this is possible?
Just found some 3/4 Spacer lockers I guess they will work. I'm glad I bought a 40 inch axle and not the stock 36 or 38
I'm thinking of building a go kart with a live axle and running it with a belt rather than a chain. I'd have a clutch, brake and gas pedal. I'd make it so the clutch pedal was locked in the released position to start and when stopped. I'd put an idler pulley between the engine and axle and when the clutch was let out the belt would tighten and it takes off. Do you think that would work on a go kart?
yep, it sure could.
Hey, Edit this and throw in a short clip of you son doing donuts, and explain that with a dead axle you can only do donuts in one direction( If it on the right side you can only do donuts to the left and vice versus). Just so the young ones can visually see what you were talking about. You explained it good, but an actual demonstration is the best. Say that you can also have turning brakes with a differential…Lock the left and only the right turns..Like farm tractors have too assist/help you turn sharp and quicker. Can I get an email address so I don't have to write my thoughts on here and that way I won't make you mad at me?
Hey t man I have a question I wanna build the Same go cart I dont want to be a copy cat but I love ur fullscreen machine and wanted to build it but I was wondering how much u spend in total to make it and also if we can talk about specification on it please
Jesus Villa I think about 900, But I did build it all. If you get real spindles and stuff for a buggy then its going to cost more
***** is there any other method to contact u t man cause i have lots of question
are live axles faster
im hve ine trubl take the rear rim off my gokart it has 1 nut holding the rim on it like it stuck on the axl
hey tman i am planning on making a go kart /racing mower and was thinking of either doing only rear suspension or no suspension
what are your thoughts thanks
well having suspension is all ways good its just that I have seen some people do it and it seems to bounce the machine alot . so you'll have to figure that out.
***** can u make a video on getting a dead axle making it live
My go kart has a differential exactly like a car. As in it is driven from the front.
i just bought a project go kart with a bent live hexagon axle, would you happen to know a site that sells hexagon shafts?
shoot , no I dont. I wish I did. If you find one please let me know. I haven't had any luck.
***** I've actually been searching for about a month asking everyone I come across & searching the web and coming up with nothing.....until now......here's the site I found www.gopowersports.com/ ,keep rockn those videos Tman, they are very helpful!!
Bite through? Shouldn't I drill small holes through my axle so my set screws will screw in snug?
+Ean Gdaniec nah , thats not a good idea. if you ever brake one off inside it'll be hell trying to get it out.
***** Thank you... but I am still finding it difficult to trust a small screw to keep an axle from swaying, just by pressure. I need locker collars.
+T-Mans Go Karts what would you say about a belt feed to a chain that runs the tire?
Can u help me put an axel on my go kart it needs to be changed
Would you fix my go kart it has a 16 HP dura last engine . Axel broke
hey t man i have a basic design for a go cart and wanted now wat u thought of so how should i send it to u
Jesus Villa private msg me on FB
***** and wats ur fb