Knipex Pliers Wrench vs. Bahco Adjustable Wrench | Which is Best?
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As a newbie line mechanic at a manufacturing plant, the knipex pliers wrench performs so many functions. I do a lot of machine changeovers and the 180 pliers wrench keeps me from having a pocket full of tools to just 3 or 4. The old school adjustable has its time and place as do all things in this world.
good input... i find myself grabbing the knipex for a lot of things that i couldn't even think of another tool to do the job, its clamping power is a really under appreciated aspect of it. - thanks for commenting!
Older guy here who has moved on from old fashioned tools like an adjustable wrench, but for rare occasions, carry a 125 and 150 cobra daily, Fixin to get 150 wrench for edc
I wouldn’t be handing my pliers wrench to anybody anyway. They’re like $60. Nobody using them but me
Ever loaned someone your car?
60 bucks doesn't get a full tank! ;)
60 for a good tool is reasonable ;)
@@spencermaiers8322 If they borrow the car, they'd better fill it up.
c'mon, only for 5 minutes. pls 😊
You break you buy 😂
@@advanced8526they always say okay then tell you your tool was already loose and it’s not broken .. after they abused it and ruined your tolerances
I have Bahco adjustables from 6” to 18”, and several of the wide opening pairs. Since I bought the Knipex 125mm, 180mm and 300mm the Bahco stuff has been retired. Yes the Bahco can be adjusted with one hand, but once the Knipex is adjusted it doesn’t slip, that’s a game changer in a tight spot for me…………….
They both have their place. I have many Knipex pliers and pliers wrenches. I have the Bahco adjustable wrench. I love all of them. One of the coolest things about an adjustable wrench though, is being able to bend thick gauge steel. The leverage you get is awesome.
1000% agree, the “pinch” ability is incredible
I agree with the price point about the knipex. Every time I think about buying them I talk myself out of it. I use a smooth jaw style channel lock from Milwaukee 10 in but the 8in baco seems to be more compact for tight places.
Love the videos keep them coming.
I have heard great things about the milwaukee too though! eventually... you should spoil yourself and get a pliers wrench ! Thank you for your support!
That bahco wrench is amazing. It feels great in the hand. I primarily use it for chrome plated espresso machines because the handle is compact, because the jaws open super wide, the thin jaws get into tight places, and being an adjustable wrench is great for when I wrap the chrome fasteners in electrical tape before servicing.
I genuinely look forward to jobs requiring that wrench because it feels so nice.
The knipex pliers wrench is excellent for plated fasteners. The clamping ensures the fastener is gripped more evenly to spread the load on the fastener. This becomes apparent when you put masking tape on the jaws of both types; "hot spots" will be apparent on the old style adjustable wrench where pressure is focussed on the jaws
The new knipex products also support clip on plastic soft jaws
Been using the Bahco wrench for at least 15 years, quality stuff, the same as Snap On.... they come in thin jaw as well
I definitely would like to add some of the thin jaw ones to my arsenal
I put the Bahco 8" in my Amazon wish after you talked about them in a previous video. Keep making videos... love the content. Would like to see a video of you putting a wood stove in the house. I grew up in NW NJ, and I loved our wood stove. Cut, split, and stacked wood while on summer break from school. Can't wait to see some milling vids.
I would LOVE one in the house, if I was planning to stay longer than I am I probably would, but I have been considering putting one in my shop! I have a furnace but it would but awesome for the days I'm really going to be spending some time out there to have a wood stove ! We shall see! Thanks !
I bought my dad a 250mm knipex pliers wrench and even though he is very impressed with it and likes is very much, every time there is a pluming job, the first thing he picks is the adjustable wrench, he says it's just faster and easier to work with. He still caries the knipex, but most of the time it's used for specific tasks where its clamping force is needed.
Thanks for the great comparison and insight. Keep up the great work!
thanks for the great comment, definitely both great in their own way
I'm new to the game of plumbing, but starting with a normal adjustable and getting used too. It's super hard using knipex adjustable pliers. Almost always go back to my old channel lock adjustable.
Bahco is the best! I don’t think I’ll ever take it out of my bag, no matter how handy the pliers wrench is
I’m building a mechanicals service kit. Think the best option since I need 2 wrenches since I’ll need one to hold backup is that I should just buy 1 of each instead of 2 of the same.
I'm sorry with one or more sizes of the plier wrench. You replace all wrenches. But that's my humble opinion.
I totally agree with you about the adjustable wrenches . I always go for them before my Knipex . They both have there place but I much perfer my adjustable wrenches , I feel I can get my leverage with them. Anyways love the video and keep them coming .
Thank you my friend - appreciate the comment !
They are complementary. Totally agree with what you are saying about practical use for speed and comfort: normal wrench > adjustable wrench > pliers wrench. And yes, for the 'normal' use on bolts, adjustable wrenches are more straightforward and easy to use than pliers wrenches. However, the pliers wrenches are definitely indispensable, especially for some kinds of 'special' situations. Say, again, as you mentioned, if you need to hold something while working on it, or, sometimes, you need to squeeze things, and the pliers wrench may serve better than anything else, etc. And, personally, if being asked if I could have only one tool I would choose the pliers wrench for its multirole functionality :)
love them both and I'm glad to have both!
Agreed
Also agree lol
I have several sizes of the pliers wrench and really like them. I am not going to get rid of my other adjustable "Crescent " wrenches though. The Bachos look good too.
I haven't tried to buy call yet but I am damned impressed with every pair of Knipex pliers I've picked up. Well over $1,000 which isn't saying too much as several of them are $100+things like the locking CV clamp pliers, they're S-Type swedish pipe wrench. This one however has been evading me even though I bought and it seven times and I've been turned down each and every time I've tried to buy I've been shut down. A 86 43 250US. Or as most of the US would know this is a 10in with a 15 degree offset handle pliers wrench. Very similar to the offset on box-end wrenches.
Great video , I been using the bahco 8 and 6 for the last 5 years as a plumber and everyone around me mainly uses the bacho too but I have started seeing more and more people on site work transition to the knipex pliers. Currently I’m researching on the knipex 300 and that’s how I came across your video. What I love most about bahco is that if you need some heavy persuasion to get the job done you can give the item a good hard hit whereas the knipex 150 I have , I’m nervous to use for rough handling. But I do think the bacho will always be the staple adjustable. On a last note it is interesting how many people around the world pronounce knipex differently here in England we say it like this nip-ex
I think TH-cam has sky rocketed the popularity of the pliers wrench, people see it and see how useful it can be and since other people are buying it, its kinda like a herd mentality, but at least in this case its a good tool and it works well. - also yes I agree! I think if i didn't watch youtube tool videos, I would call them n-eye-pex ... Most guys on construction sites around me call them that !
Say it as it looks, It’s pronounced “Kehnipex” there’s no silent ‘K’s in German.
I've been wanting to add a pair of those plier wrenches to my service bag for a while now... but I can't find them in the wild.... it's hard to find a lot of things here.. and if you do, it's super pricey.. I have some 10" husky adjustables in my gas bag, but I only carry that for certain things.. I do like the husky adjustables though, but they don't have the skinny profile of that bahko... the skinny profile is really nice for flare fittings. Glad to see you so close to 1000 subs finally... I'm pretty sure I found you when you were still under 50.
you have definitely been around since early on! Appreciate you and your support !
Good insight for apprentice like myself having seen those knipex pliers wrenchs everywhere
Definitely a cool tool and they certainly have their place, when/if you can have both, get both! But I don’t think they are needed
Great video, I have a pair of those plier wrenches but I tend to go for the adjustable wrench’s more often
That’s where I ended up, great tools regardless
apples and oranges ,,, both have their place.
I prefer the bahco over the pliers wrench. It just works better for me.
That wide mouth tool is a specialty item. It would be useful for plumbing in tight fittings such as installing sinks in cabinets and I may buy one just for that. The jaw is too large for general use, it will be hard to fit into some locations so it can't replace a similar length standard adjustable wrench. I have a Knipex Cobra but I have not tried the Knipex pliers wrench so I can't say if I would like it better than a conventional adjustable wrench.
I can definitely see your point on this one... my main use case is HVAC, so plumbing fittings that are large but fairly low torque, which is probably why it shines so bright for me
Hard comparison - both super cool tools, and practical in each their ways.
Thanks for the good videos, and a chance to win a bahco adjustable wrench 🔧
Agreed! Thanks for the comment, goodluck!
Haven't been able to get used the plier wrench. I like the Bahco but doesn't it adjust opposite standard adjustable. Keep up the good work
I'm not sure what you mean but thank you !
Curiosity grip handles are probably not good for older people right? It would be better with adjustable wrench and use leverage instead? You kind of just answered my question near the end of video thanks
Weight is my biggest consideration. I just checked amazon and the 8" bahcos are 3oz heavier than the 180s. Think i'll stick to the pliers. Though those are really nice. Saw that they also have a 6" slim jaw. Might pick those up if theyre comparable in weight to channellock.
Just curious? Why is weight such a consideration for you?
3oz??? Literally a negligible difference. If it's honest to God that big of deal you might need to hit the gym
I own knipex cobra and they are awesome. I've been trying to justify the purchase of these plier wrenches but i can't. To me a plier is a plier and wrench is a wrench. If i wanted speed and precision i grab my ratcheting wrenches and i want to grip/bend /twist i grab my pliers.
Love the videos. Looking forward to the next!
thank you ! glad you like them! thanks for the sub!
All are very good and recommandable équipement
When the Knipex work, they REALLY work. Unfortunately they can't fit in all the places a standard adjustable can and be kind of finicky. Knipex go in the big tool bag where I got options, bahco (I got the raptor branded version) go in the little bag where I need more versatility
My exact thoughts!
I would take both Bacho for adjustable and the Knipex Cobra as an adjustable plier
Still getting used to the pliers wrench. I like the challenge of learning a new way to work.
takes a bit to get used to them but really great once you get rocking with them!
I’m with you bud! I tried to love the plier wrench, but I’ll take a good adjustable wrench over those all day long. I love the Bahco ones as well. Congrats on your first 1k coming up. Keep up the good work!
Thanks my friend, I saw you hit 2k - hope you celebrated! I’ll keep chasing you 🏃♂️💨
Love the channel. Have been subbed for quite a while. Love the Knipex as well.
Thanks for watching and subbing! Love just about every Knipex tool I’ve ever used 😂
Bought my first Bahco 2 weeks ago, haven’t hopped on the pliers wrench train yet
tools are such a slippery slope, theres always another size, version or style to get haha
I actually ordered one of these bahcos because of one of your recent videos. I still haven't received it. But I always thought the pliers wrench was superior but the more I use them, the more I realize that an adjustable wrench still has a place. I'd love another one to keep in the shop! Thanks for the great content!
thank you my friend ! let me know how you like it and good luck !
Cool video. Loved th review
Thanks!
Just ordered one, nice video
Hope you enjoy it! Let us know !
The Lobster is the best adjustable wrench I've ever used. There is absolutely zero slop in the worm drive. They are incredible.
Agreed. I can't believe they aren't more popular
Thank you
I am going to have to disagree with you my friend. The Pliers Wrench not only does everything the Bahco Adjustable Wrench do plus the things you already mentioned, but you can also hold items while bending, flatten sheet metal and turn round items without marring them.
they definitely are super sweet, it really comes down to how you use them and what you're using them for... I'm happy to have them !
Great video and great arguments raised, especially the point about the pliers wrench being a two handed tool when adjusting it. The familiarity and muscle memory most of us have with an adjustable wrench would be an obstacle with the Knipex, especially if you use it regularly. I was considering the pliers wrench for work but decided against it and went with the Bahco because of efficiency due to familiarity.
Interesting, I've not seen a wide mouth adjustable before. I have a pair of Knipex "cobras" I think you called them, but not the other Knipex you compared here.
those cobra pliers are great, I really like the wide mouths ... super handy!
I have never tried the Knipex pliers wrench. They look clunky and cumbersome. I don't like squeezing on pliers handles to perform an opened wrench function. Adjustable wrenches are widely available and less costly, so I haven't embraced the Knipex pliers wrench.
I purchased the Bacho adjustable wrench when it was first introduced in my area about 20 years ago. I thought it would be ideal for low torque, but large nut applications. I was thinking that it would work well on plumbing fixtures like Sloan flush valves and not cause Channel Lock teeth damage. A standard opening adjustable or combination wrench was vastly oversized for that application. I purchased the Bacho 8". I don't like it. The jaws are uncomfortably too narrow and Bacho reverses the adjustment thread from every other manufacturer, so I was constantly adjusting the jaw opening the wrong direction. To obtain the wide jaw opening, the Bacho frame is too wide for confined work space on small fasteners. I eventually dedicated my Bacho to a single use bench tool application. I have gone back to standard adjustable wrench designs, though I do like the Klein wider opening versions and I have a Matco that is wider opening than most. I stayed away from the Snap-On Bacho upgraded versions for the reasons already described, but I did like the high polished chrome finish. Snap-On has gone back to the more conventional style adjustable wrench design.
I am an enormous fan of Knipex. I especially like the Alligator version. I have some Cobras, but they are too finiky for me to easily adjust. I believe that I am in the minority on that opinion. I appreciate that Knipex satisfies both types of users.
I have tried my Knipex pliers for traditional pipe wrench applications. I don't care what Knipex advertises, I still prefer Ridgid pipe wrenches for pipe work.
appreciate your comment and experience share, the problem I have found is there are just far too many options and none of them are perfect! more tools and more options in the arsenal is ultimately what works the best for me ! haha
2 hands? one hand and my belly to open, same hand and gravity to close.😀
Do you really think some guy on YT offering his opinion based off a really tiny amount of experience can inform the masses truly as to which wrench is 'best'??. How bout we just start with a discussion on the differences and individual capabilities of each type.
Knipex pliers wrench is far superior than an adjustable wrench IMHO
I always felt that way too so I get it, I think it all boils down to what you’re using them for and what experience you have, both awesome tools - thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the opportunity
Thanks for the support!
Great video . I was kinda undecided as well . Still am 😂. Hope you reach 1000 subs soon .
thanks my friend - when you can't decide, the only option is to buy both! almost there !
I appreciate the squeeze given by Knipex wrench. This is a good tool.
I have always been uncomfortable with adjustable wrenches, because they have never given me enough grip. They self changed the size and slipped off nuts. But I have always used cheap 'chinesium'.
I would like to try Bahco on my own. Send me one, please. 🙂
Maybe you’ll be the lucky one, I appreciate the comment !
it's Keh-Ni-Pex, not Nye-pex
Mine identify as Nye-pex 🙂
Bahco is not the manufacturer of this wrench. It is produced for Bahco by the Spanish company IREGA.
never heard this before ! I'm going to look into that
to each their own man, if your only using pliers wrenches to turn bolts you haven't lived yet.
I feel the times I actually grab for these is to use them as a mini vice, they’ve got some serious clamping pressure on the right type of object!
Just got the knipex and now I need a bahco too
you might just luck out !
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Cool wrench
Never liked the knipex. Collecting dust somewhere in the garage. Just really hated the button adjusting part of the knipex
I find this to be true more and more the longer I have them. Never the first choice - sometimes they are the exact right tool for the job, but that’s rare
Bahco 😊
Gooooooooood
I'll take the crescent any day. The pliers wrench are interesting and fun to use sometimes but they do not compare to the crescent.
So I haven't seen a video (in english) testing the KNIPEX 98 07 250 Spanner out. I don't think 99% of people even know it exists. So maybe that makes it worthy of a review? haha ridiculous pricing though... I think it's an import only tool.
I have actually seen that! I’m guessing it’s so pricey due to the 1000v rating! Maybe I can get my hands on one!
Kuh Nih Pex
I totally like the plierwench but I'm from Trinidad and we dont have these tools here and to get a credit card is a pain so if anyone what's to help me out and donate a plierswench it would be most appreciated
What are the top of the line tools there?
This is a silly comparison,, it's like saying an apple is better than a banana,, both are great tools, imho, but not for the same application..
ps, I have both, and the Knipex would be my go-to choice, any day of the week,, !!
Dont hand your tools to someone else! 😂😂😂
i’m not a tool snob but i won’t let people use my expensive tools .. not afraid of them breaking but people dropping tools because they don’t know you paid 75$ for a wrench .. to them it’s nothing to ding up tools .. always lend out your old beaten cheaper tools ..
I pronounce it Knipex because it’s spelt Knipex.
Really!?!? I’m an older guy with older friends and we use modern tools…..kids…
its pronounced knipex... :)
i cant stand adjustable wrenches, and i use em all the time
Bahco its beter knipex
"How to pronounciate" 💀💀💀
kah-nip-x
Why choose? Why not have both? Sometimes you need two wrenches for tightening or loosening. There might be cases where one is a bit more suitable for the task that the other. So, one of each is good. I know that there are times when the Knipex is nicer, as you can essentially ratchet it. The Bahco will keep its adjustment much better than the old style adjustables, which was my main gripe about the adjustables that I used in the past.
The best thing for any fastener is to use the correct size of tool. Any style of adjustable wrench can easily damage the nut or bolt. With the Knipex you have no play between the jaws. With the Bahco style, you will.
Even with the closest tolerance fixed wrench like those from Snap-on, there's still some play between the jaws and the bolt. With pliers wrench like the Knipex, there's zero play because the bolt is gripped tightly.
I love my Knipex. They are incredibly functional and take a beating. I dare say the Bahco have a place too. 😁
My advice would be if you can’t work out how to use the Knipex pliers get a pro in because the chances are you have no idea what you’re doing and will screw up. Never lend anything expensive anything to anyone who has no idea 😂
Not a fan of the pliers wrench made the switch back to a normal adjustable especially the bahco
I've recently starting hearing about the bacho and now have it in my Amazon wishlist. The knipex is just so expensive and can't justify having it for DYI. It would be great seeing that chainsaw mill in action. You also posted a video awhile back on backpacking gear. Bring a backpacker myself, I like those type of gear videos. Just an idea. Enjoying the videos!
Love watching backpack gear videos too! I am not sure if I want to mix that stuff into this channel or not, I really don't know - I have so many hobbies and I have mainly showed tools on this channel but would love to include more !
Jim check northern tools if you have one in your area, I picked up the 12 inch pliers wrench for 56 bucks. They are clearancing out some of the knipex pliers
@@TheRbevell Thanks! I'll have to look into that.
I'm very glad I stumbled upon your video. I recently acquired the Icon 10'' plier wrench from this weekend's sale (Snagged it for $35 ish after tax). I was troublshooting my washing machine followed by doing a bathroom remodel (I'm actually waiting for the drywall to cure now lol) and felt that the 10'' were a bit too long, the handles kept getting snagged against inlet hoses and tight spaces behind the toilet / under the sink. I have the 8'' Doyle Water pump pliers (Cobra knock offs from HF) and thought how nice it would be to have something about that size in my tool pouch and for these tasks I mentioned above. Unfortunately, Harborfreight/ Icon/ Doyle does not have a plier wrench in that size, so I looked into the 8'' Widemouth Bahco Adjustable wrench Vs. Knipex 7'' (180mm).
Icons are nice but for half work, they are big. Grabbing a knipex 6" plier wrench to fill the gap.
Been wanting to try out pliers wrenches. I use 10 inch adjustable’s daily. Don’t think they’ll ever leave my bag.
When you can justify it, pick up a set, they really are a great tool, you’ll start to want them in certain situations once you get your hands on them and see where they shine best
Looks like a great tool but I prefere Knipex. Thanks !
hard to go wrong with anything made by knipex .. such quality !
Nah, I work assembling fitting in a workshop eight hours a day and the Knipex pliers save my A$$. I use a combo of double open ended wrenches and Knipex pliers, if I had to use an adjustable wrench my speed would go way down. The ability to quickly turn down a nut with Knipex pliers just can't be replicated with an adjustable wrench.
There's only one instance I use an adjustable wrench. I use it for a specific fitting where due to orientation, I require a vertical grip for counter torque. Then I DO use an adjustable, but only on the side that's not going to be moving.
Bacho more or less perfected the design for the adjustable wrench in the late 1800s. I suspect that Crescent copied it and reversed the screw, and that became the american version. Good for nut and bolts when you cannot bring fixed spanners. The last Bacho adjustable wrenches made in Sweden 30-40 years ago probably have the best quality. Newer made in Spain or Argentina are usable but not as good. Bacho invented the Swedish pipe wrench that is very good for holding round objects, such as pipes. I use Knipex channellocks primarily for holding plastic fittings. But I have actually not tested the Knipex pliers shown here, too expensive. Although I suspect that you cannot hold nuts as strongly as the adjustable wrench.
I never used or even seen a Bahco wrench. It does look like an interesting tool to use.
definitely recommend !
Question / Video challenge what about a Strap Wrench or Chain Wrench compared to Knipex and adjustable wrenches? Would these work to loosen an old chrom washroom sink drain pipe with ease? (Think 🤔 of how your mechanic uses a strap wrench to remove the oil filter on your car.)
1. "TuffMan Tools Oil Filter Wrench Set - 2pcs, Use as Jar Opener, Pipe Wrench, Rubber Strap Wrenches Used by Mechanics, Plumbers"
2. "QWORK 15" Belt Strap Wrench, Multi-Purpose Adjustable Strap Oil Filter Strap Opener Wrench" (Note Ridge does make one modele)
3. "IRWIN VISE-GRIP Original Chain Clamp, Locking, 9-Inch (27ZR)"
I find that the pliers wrench is better for finished plumbing fixtures. While the crescent wrench is better for nuts and bolts.
That’s actually a great way to put it, love the 10” icon pliers wrench for plumbing… great take, thanks for the comment!
I think the ratcheting function of the Knipex takes the cake for me. Also the ability to squeeze helps a little bit more with rounded/ rusted fasteners. I’ve never tried a bacho. So admittedly basing this on crescent wrenches. I carry a set of pliers wrenches daily. Thanks for the video. Have a blessed day.
Thank you for the comment! I think the big highlight for me is that squeeze you’re talking about, ultimately… both are great
@4:22 mute point, just show them, it takes seconds…or if they cannot figure it out, I don’t want them using my tools.
The correctly sized combination spanner for the job is better than either of those choices..
They are two totally different tools.
They should not be compared.
I just subscribed!!! Waiting for ur 2,000 subscriber giveaway!!! :p
I love the pliers wrench but I find there are a lot of times I can't fit them in the space available but that problem basically never happens the other way around.
Good: I will get the Bahco
I struggle with Knipex it tight working situations, will be going back to adjustable sin my daily tool bag.
Peoples misusing tool like duck tape .
Nipex the k is silent
Totally agree, Bacho is king!
I'd like to try some more of their tools, any suggestions ?
Great video, and great content! You’ll be at 1,000 in no time. Thanks for the chance at a new tool!
Thank you very much and Good luck!