HOW TO MAKE A CLEAN POP VOCAL CHAIN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2021
- Making your vocals sounds great is KEY to producing a successful song. A Vocal Chain is the key to making your vocals sound great. Can you see where I'm going with this?
Pop music requires great sounding vocals. This video is going to show you how to process vocals to get a loud, up front, clean sound. It's a lot less complicated than you might think.
If you aren't sure on the idea of compression, go and check out my "WTF IS: COMPRESSION" video, and you'll be up to speed in no time
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Nice random album artwork at 0:33 . Interesting Edit Choices.
Issue with stacking the 1176 an CL1B is the Tubetech in fixed mode is 1ms attack, 50ms release by default. You're using to compressors to attune the peaks.
I didn't know it was that quick! But still sounds great to my ear. Prefer the tone to the 2a!
This is fantastic advice actually! Yeah, I love the Tube-Tech emulation by Softube, but I always go with the classic 1176 into the 2A!
great content bro!
Appreciate it! Thanks Esiah!
How about the noise gate being the first on your chain... gating out any noise pre processing..
Hey pal!
This is definitely another way of doing it. I tend to this with RX-Denoise if it's a noisy source, but with the Noise Gate, it has a tendency to remove breaths and intonation if set wrong that I sometimes really like. Putting the noise gate at the end means the breaths are now loud enough to have them stick around after the gate!
How did u record these vocals? Did you track with plugs in I see you got the dynamic controlled in the wave forms
I record thru an apollo twin and I believe I used a AKG 414 on this track. Back then I will have recorded with light compression on the way in unfortunately.
@@AdamRowleygrowley Do you record with UAD Rec on, or do you use UAD mon? I heard it's smart to use "UAD rec" for a home studio because real studio mic's are already being ran through actual analog hardware.
@@thomasaudio8585 Hey man. I track with UAD Rec on these days, but with no processing on the way in (Other than preamp). For a while I just used 'Mon' Monitor. This is because I'd sometimes set my compressor wrong and then the vocal is ruined in the DAW, when it's really easy to just add the compressor after the fact.
@@AdamRowleygrowley If you apply the processing on the dedicated Preamp channel not the insert. You can track on MON. Either way its recording the effect on the unison preamp slot. MON recs that and bypasses the insert effects. REC does everything if I'm correct.
okay, so your basically saying eq'ing and compressing multiple times on vocals wont hurt it... traditionally I eq/compress/de-esser/reverb/etc once per vocal, I was always afraid of doing too much and destroying the track... (* oh and im looking for the video you mentioned at the end on vocal bussing, can I get the link for that please mate)
I actually never made the bussing video!!! I Really should. I'm much better now-a-days!
The EQ/Compression/Deess practice isnt a problem, but make sure you're not doing much each time. Each one is doing a little bit, rather than one compressor doing all the heavy lifting.
so you are using the uad recording function in console and record your vocals with those 2 compressors already on the vocals into the daw?
I used to do it that way! Exactly!
should I be doing eq and compression stuff as I record? I have neve 8801
If you understand how to do it, yes. But it will mean you can't undo the processing so make sure you don't over do it!
Did you make that video with the saux sends ,fx yet
Hey Ran! I didn't but I definitely should!!!
@@AdamRowleygrowley ok then who’s stopping u
@@TheSpeedyr6 Hahaha nobody! Just my overwhelmingly busy diary! I really should get back into youtube.
I like to recording thru these Comps, but I also like to have Auto-Tune on while Im performing. Now when I set "UAD rechnen" it will record the Auto-Tune with, what I absolutely don't want to. Ay chance to handle this a different way?
Put autotune directly in protools not on the uad pre vocal chain
If I do, I need to monitoring on Pro Tools also. This end up badly on my headphones
You'd have to use a bus I think. Send the vocal to a bus with autotune on it, monitor the bus and mute the input channel. Haven't tried this in Console but sure it can be done without too much fuss.
@@AdamRowleygrowley Sounds like a solution! I'll try it!
Uhm..you know that with 1176, the higher the attack/release the faster it is, right? So 7/6 is actually the fastest.
I did know this Filip!! Did I misspeak in this video??? Really sorry if I did. I did LOADS of research into compressors for my video on the topic, but still get this wrong every time I explain it. I've used the 1176 for so long now I just use it habitually without thinking about the physical association of the knobs.
Sorry if I made a mistake here though!
If it sounds good in context who cares how you got there. If people didn't know what u used they would say it sounds good . Sounds okay to me brother.
Thanks Bill! A lot's changes now but this is all still relevant
Good video man 👏🏽
Thanks Don!! I should probably do an updated video on this!!
@@AdamRowleygrowley for real mannn I’m sure people would love that 🚀
this chain but put r vox at the end >
Can't argue with RVox, no idea how it works but it just does.
maybe find a good singer if so much plugins are required on one chain
Share your mixes Kenny! Would love to hear a perfect singer with natural multistage compression!
@@AdamRowleygrowleysome people didn’t get the message this was a “pop” vocal chain hahahah. Good video dude.
@@titledworld8393 Just hilarious. Appreciate it!
Sounds unnatural
Ah sorry to hear you didn't like this one Mynelka!
I tend to work in the Pop music world, and my tracks have been used by indie artists and signed artists alike. Vocals I've produced have garnered millions of plays and I'm pretty proud of where I've got my sound to now. That said, obviously it's not for everyone. If you let me know what kind of style you'd be looking to replicate, I'll try and make a video showing you how to get that style of vocal.
If not a video, I'll write in a comment for you how I'd go about it!