Another RiD 2001/Unicron Trilogy kid here, yeah, all of the "G1 all the time" is getting pretty tired. It's still fun to see characters that are more obscure to me like the later post-cartoon G1 toys like the Headmasters and Targetmasters, and some of the Japanese G1 exclusive characters, but it really feels like RiD 2001 and the Unicron Trilogy in particular are being left in the dust. There have been a handful of new toys and homages but nothing like what Beast Wars or even Beast Machines have gotten.
Wfc seige did the galaxy upgrade optimus prime witch was a reditration l of cybertron Optimus prime. If only they did that with Megatron. Hasbro had a missed or wasted opportunity with the Cyberverse spark armor gimmic with Megatron partically with those battle ships spark armors. If that opportunity happened then we would've got a redecko of Megatron as armada Megatron combine with his spark armor Tittle wave, as an omage to the armada anime.
The "All Geewun, all the time" mentality in Generations and the lack of quality control on Masterpiece are two things that HasTak really don't want to have going on at the same time. I'm seeing more and more collectors look at upcoming releases for Kingdom and SS86 and say "We don't need Masterpiece anymore", because Hasbro are pumping out super-screen accurate figures that pose great, have solid paintjobs, and have decent quality control in the mainline, for a fraction of the cost, and they do more than two characters per year.
Seriously. I look at the new MP Starscream and I think my Earthrise Starscream was a WAY better deal. It didn't cost me an arm and a leg, it LOOKS cool and it's FUN to transform instead of being a chore. I have the old MP Skywarp and I think I left it half-transformed in its box. It's that obnoxious. ER Starscream is an actual TOY.
@@Undrave And considering that ER Screamer is in many respects an upscaled KO of a toy from 2006 that was showing its age by 2009, that's saying a lot.
The generation 1 figures are so good! I don’t understand why TJ got so mad. The figures are the best they have been in years! We are getting almost the full cast of figures at a good price with articulation and detail of masterpieces. I’m pretty sure the only reason studio series is using G1 is because they couldn’t fit the figures into kingdom. It’s the same with the Netflix series, they are figures that they couldn’t fit into earthrise. The lines fit so perfectly together.
@@jamesattack7420 Probably because there's an "S" in Generations, but it seems laser-focused on just the first one, while every other line gets mostly left out.
@@ToaArcan I wouldn't really say it's a KO in any respects. The reason they're so similar is because they had the original designer/ engineer for the seeker mold come back since it was so good at the time. He didn't want to change anything other than adding a few new design choices for updated engineering techniques to increase articulation and robot mode looks.
I grew up with the original RiD, Armada and Animated, so your point about "G1 all over again" just represents how I've been feeling for the past few years about the toylines
Yeah... I miss the times when Hasbro used to experiment with character designs. I am so tired of Megatron being the same old gray tank time after time. Bring back the bat mobile! Or give him a new intimidating design. Not just dude with a cannon.
@@pinkstinger Animated was the first attempt as making a new Megatron that was a call back to G1. Him being a dual rotor helicopter was a unique vehicle mode idea which gave him his G1 fusion cannon and sword(s) (the OG toy had a sword if anyone was wondering). But now EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER has made a similar call back design, from Prime to Earthrise. I would be fine with Megatron being at least a triple changer, but we're getting to a point where anything other than a gray tank is unacceptable.
@@HORRIOR1 much like Optimus always being a truck, a front-nosed one to be specific. I'm cool with Prime always being a red truck, but I miss him being a firetruck (RiD/Cybertron/Animated), or a pickup truck (Alternators), or maybe simply not having them windshield pecs (Armada). Hopefully the nostalgia cycle will reach those days eventually
I know, right? I really miss when they'd let themselves get a little crazy with character designs and characterisations. Armada Optimus, for example, is a fun and divergent design, which nevertheless still looks recognisable. Heck, Beast Wars was super-different for having the entire premise be utterly new, with no characters from the original as main-stays, just the occasional cameo. I miss when they'd try new things from time to time, and not feel constrained by G1. (Though I'm bias, since I think the original G1 cartoon is awful, and gets FAR too much unjustified praise).
I may be alone in this, but the largest issue I have with Transformers, as a whole, is how they have demystified Optimus Prime in an attempt to make him seem grander. Look at G1, every version of it. Look at the Unicron Trilogy, or Dreamwave, or Animated. Optimus was truly profound in those- especially in G1- not because he was ancient, or the most powerful, or because he was always right. He was profound because he was believable, yet larger than life. He was the dad that his soldiers- and his audience- may not of had. He was the friend that would always listen. He didn’t always have an answer, but he would do his best to help find one. Hell, he’s the only character in popular fiction at the time to defy the “Chosen One” trope. Luke? Brought balance to the Force. He-Man? Always came out on top. Optimus was not the chosen one, not the being selected by destiny. However, due to who he was and how he impacted those around him, it was Optimus, not Rodimus, that ended the Hate Plague by using the Matrix, which- once again- could only be used by the Chosen One. In that, Optimus essentially made a case against destiny and proved that the true measure of a person is what they choose to do, not what they’re meant to do. Up until Animated, every Optimus followed a similar stead. They were normal, played games with the humans, made mistakes, felt embarrassed, yet they were always the hero who put his life on the line for anyone and anything else. Then you get to Prime. Optimus now spoke without constants, he was stoic, and he was always depicted as being apart from his crew. Sure, he was there, but he was never as tangible as the other Primes. Movie Prime, RID Prime, and- to a lesser extent- Cyberverse Prime all followed suit. Though IDW played around with the idea, they just stopped short of essentially called Optimus the 13th God of their race, and everything he did was always questioned and scrutinized by characters that made Optimus feel like a politician or a religious being, not like a friend. Perhaps I’m just too sappy, but I still think of the Optimus that wanted to decorate the base for Halloween because Sari asked, the Optimus that joked about his lack of mouth with Raf and Carlos, the Optimus that consoled Omega Supreme and told Chase that we need to pursue dreams to make them real. That’s what made Optimus mean so much to so many: you wish you could be him, and he was close enough to reality that you could actually emulate him. That’s why children cried as Optimus passed, why they rejoiced when he came back, and what made him endure for all these decades when other cartoon leader characters- like Duke, He-Man, and Matt Tracker- never made such an impression. When you make Optimus a messiah, he’s simply too far removed to elicit such a response. He’s too good, and this you loose the ability to identify with him. To me, that’s the greatest misstep with Transformers as a whole.
I know this comment is a bit old, but I have to clarify that Luke has NEVER been the choosen one. It has been stated in many of occasions that despite everything that happened Anakin is the real choosen one has he was the one to slay the emperor and directly cause the fall of the jedi, hence bringing balance. This minsconception makes me sad, cause it devalues both Luke and Anakin has characters. It devalues, luke because it gives people the impression that his actions were destined when they were not and Anakin, due to him being a strong subvertion of the choosen one troope has generally you expect this type of characters to be pentagons or turn into pentagons of rightiouness....but, Anakins entire life is filled with screw up after screw up....he was the choosen one, but he was also the most human and flawed character in the series.
I like this new concept of using Plastic Addict. Exploring the other parts of the Transformers Franchise and showcasing their faults would be a good step in a better and fresh direction for this show. Keep up the good work TJ, and glad to see one of my favorite TH-camrs back.
I'm fine with lots of G1 because the figures they're putting out were either obscure or for characters who desperately needed a cartoon accurate figure, like repugnus, the seacons, skullsmasher, earthrise Ironhide, cliffjumper, and soundwave, kingdom warpath and (hopefully) huffer, hell even bumblebee finally has a good G1 inspired figure. I just hope that they do the same with beast wars, like give us a new razorbeast, or transmetal rhinox, or even a leader/commander class torca, that'd be cool.
Pretty surprised you didn't cover how the Bumblebee as well as the Netflix Siege staffs treated Peter Cullen and other union workers when it comes to voice acting because the stories we've heard about how the Bumblebee team didn't want to pay Cullen a lot of money to voice the very character he brought to life and instead having him do a voice over John Bailey's original voice for Optimus in the Bumblebee movie was pretty freaking insulting especially since like I said before Cullen was a big reason why Optimus Prime's a loved character in the first place. The Siege Netflix series wasn't any better because like the Bumblebee staff them and Hasbro didn't want to pay union actors to voice characters and instead used non union workers. Like I said it's a scummy way to treat the people who helped brought beloved characters back in the day to life especially since both Cullen and Weilker had shown they still love doing the roles.
Biggest Blunder of the late 2010’s: The lack of celebration from Hasbro for Beast Wars’ 20th Anniversary. With the series that actually saved the brand from dying out in the late 90’s, you think Hasbro would do something to honour it on it’s 20th birthday. Hah! Hasbro was too busy going full on G1 under John Warden’s direction at the time to have bothered giving a non-G1/Movie series a fully dedicated line and lazily crapped out a Beast Machines repaint for the Platinum Series. Yes, a BM repaint to celebrate BW while they were putting their efforts towards Titans Return. Takara Tomy did better with the anniversary by giving us a Masterpiece Optimus Primal and Cheetor. Before the price increase came along in the form of Megatron and Dinobot. Sure, Hasbro did eventually give us an Optimal Optimus for Power of the Primes but that was fan-voted and a year late to the party. Less said about IDW’s take on Beast Wars in Unicron, the better.
At least we're getting BW's 25th anniversary being celebrated with Kingdom's new BW figures and the new BW comic series from IDW next year. I see that as an apology from Hasbro on that part.
kaijuguy19 It’s inexcusable for them to have done nothing for Beast Wars’ 20th when they did so with it’s 10th Anniversary by giving us a toyline to celebrate it. Imagine the BBC Doctor Who doing nothing for it’s 50th Anniversary in 2013. It would be the blunder of the century.
Didn't help the Optimal Optimus was not that great & had a lot of QC issues from figure to figure & the hollowness just killed any interest I had in that figure, & IDW's take on Beast Wars characters in Unicron can suck on a Allicon's wet tail.
Kunoros Hound of Athreos literally anything, animated was my g1. The show literally got no acknowledgement from Hasbro on its 10th anniversary, and yet TFP gets one. I’m happy with the TFP anniversary but it would have been good if animated got the same treatment, like with reissues of hard to get figures from Japan. Like Blackout and jet pack Optimus prime.
man, I wasn't sure my dislike of how G1 centric the franchise was going was gonna be addressed but yeah, I miss how different the 2000's were especially since I grew up with the Unicron Trilogy where their designs were some of the most unique in the franchise and there didn't seem to be an aversion to using vehicle parts as the body instead of the shell of the body and I swear I saw some people disparage a lot of the stuff from that time, hope they start going forward or else I'll have to resort to 3rd parties taking years to make some cybertron toys
I got into the hobby around 2017 or so, I liked being able to make a cohesive shelf of G1-ish bots. But I have to agree that series like prime are absolutely not getting the respect they deserve. I picked up kingdom galvatron, Dinobot and scorponok, and they really drove home how much a different spin can change the feel of a toy. Galvatron’s undefined alternate mode let the toy be a really cohesive and hefty figure. Dinobot is extraordinarily streamlined and hews so much closer to normal action figures than most bots. Scorponok is… there, but he’s certainly different from most bots.
The blunder that keep happening over and over. Over packing a toy in every waves, and the end-of-the-line curse, where some toys are just one-shot deals, only to be scalped ont the aftermarket.
Le Kanraposte They never repacked TR Twintwist but they sure did repacked Siege Astrotrain for Earthrise or skipping over CW Wave 2 completely for the UK.
What bugged most about the Machinima series was that they didn't really use the line's gimmicks in their stories. Combiner Wars featured the Combiners deciding to screw over their individual component Transformers and declare themselves the new being. The Constructions got to separate but they were basically drones, like in Energon. Titans Return did feature the Titans, a whole three of them, but no "Titanmasters" and one of the Titans was Starscream in Trypticon's body. Power Of The Primes (which admittedly I need to finish) doesn't seem to use that gimmick either. And all three came out AFTER their toyline ENDED! Armada media did a better job with the Mini-Cons because at least half their gimmick mattered to the story. Then Machinma shuts down without warning and Go90, who had the US exclusive rights to Prime Wars, eventually folds as well, and if it wasn't for Rooster Teeth it would gone for good (or was that one of the shows they recently purged?) so that whole deal was a failure. They did all the things wrong with that show. Iron Man at least updates his armor look every few years. I think Hasbro is afraid to lose a popular name again, but you'd think Cyberverse would at least create new characters...or more than three.
I used to praise the Michael Bay Transformers movies for reviving the franchise and making them popular again. Then TF4 and 5 came out, and I realized that if they kept going then Transformers would be remembered outside of its existing fan base as a terrible franchise made up of five horrible movies and other media that the general public wouldn’t give a chance because of said movies, they needed to stop if they didn’t want Transformers to disappear into obscurity again like it did after Beast Wars ended.
It sucks because these movies were several fans introduction to the franchise and did catapult the franchise back into the limelight again after years. So they have their place in history. But now that they’ve done their job in getting attention, they really should’ve ended the Bay run on the films and gotten someone who really cared about Transformers.
Jonathan Delgado We did eventually get that with Travis Knight and Bumblebee, but it should have happened much earlier. Plus, as TJ said, even Bumblebee’s promotion didn’t do it any favours as they couldn’t decide on whether its a prequel or a reboot.
Arthus850 I barely remember the marketing or promotional material. Personally I didn’t care what continuity it was attached to because I was just hoping for a decent story.
honestly TF4 is my guilty pleasure movie, TF5 on the other hand that shit was just BAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDD I think the reboot is going to be the best thing to ever happen to these movies with someone who gets the franchise and doesn't just want to make crappy teen targeted movies I wasn't even going to see Bumblebee until word of the mouth got around
Remember when Studio Series gave us a Crankcase toy that was actually a recolored Crowbar, which itself was a retool of Berserker, which was basically Crankcase? All they had to do was give a redeco to the Berserker mold. But, nope! Let's use a guy that looks different, give it different colors, and say that this toy represents a character in the movie despite not looking like said character! Seriously, what were they thinking!? On that note however, I suppose it would have been a bit redundant. But this is Transformers we're talking about.
Well that still isn't the worst they gave us this decade. There was Airacnid, and and First Edition Optimus Prime and Arms Micron Gia Unicron and Skullitron. Beserker still was a mistake I wanted Onslaught damn it.
@@emberfist8347 True. No idea how they managed to screw up any of these things. Also, it would've been great if they had given us more Decepticons from the movies in general.
@@emberfist8347 Yeah. Bad repaints instead of the rest of the Decepti-crew? Ugh. On the bright side, that line did give us a great Scorn toy, even though he wasn't in the movie.
Biggest Blunder of the mid-2010’s: The Transformers/IDW Hasbroverse. The whole thing is a blunder ranging from awkwardly putting in the IDW GI Joe(a series which had been a few years prior to the crossover) despite having been presented as a separate universe(Infestation anyone?) from the Transformers to everything to do with the failfest that is Transformers vs Visionaries which is a prime example of how not to bring back an old dead property and written by someone who once commented that they would bash white males in the mouth with a baseball bat. From the awful redesigns to the unlikable characters, you’d wish the Decepticons had sic a phase sixer on their world. IDW M.A.S.K is an outright flop, Action Man was a thing, Revolutionaries existed and IDW ROM the Space Knight was lukewarm at best. The Micronaughts had the most positive reception but the ongoing book didn’t last too long before cancellation. Transformers was doing alright before the Revolution event but afterwards, the books were struggling to stay afloat and were routinely criticised for their drop in quality by many fans including Lost Light. The book that managed to surpass B.O.T in terms of sheer head-banging stupidity and has the most self-congratulatory bullshit ending in the brand’s history(Rung is Primus? Get the fuck out of here) that reeks of sheer egotism which would make Steven Moffat proud and only the circlejerk groups on TFW2005 would consider it flawless. From Revolution to Unicron, writers had to deal with the overbearing editorial mandates from IDW to have an event once per year akin to Marvel’s yearly predatory practice in attempt to get more readers. Problem is that the TF fans wants to read about their favourite bots while the casual reader wouldn’t know who the hell is Action Man if they’re only going by the IDWverse TF books. Prior to Revolution, people were praising them for not doing event books like what Marvel and DC would do and thought that events like Dark Cybertron was just a celebratory thing for the 30th Anniversary. How wrong we were. Several crossover books were made but only the ROM vs the Transformers miniseries was worth a damn because it actually tried to organically incorporate aspects of the other franchise into the framework of the Transformers IDW 1.0 Continuity. The most controversial thing to come out of the post-Revolution line is Audrey Sitterson’s and it wasn’t even the quality of the books themselves that attracted controversy. With the most insensitive comment relating to a tragedy since Katie Hopkins was born, it astounded every sane person that the writer was not immediately fired for causing bad PR for the company despite other writers having been sacked for far less and for being the biggest ass to have worked on GI Joe. Audrey became so hated by the GI Joe community that they refused to buy any comic bearing his name and has the hilarious distinct of being the writer who had the fastest cancellation on a comic book they were writing before the first issue had even come out. Then there was the Unicron miniseries which was to end off the failed Hasbroverse. It would have been an admirable effort if not for the fact that it did the Beast Era so, so dirty by making them into Unicron’s mooks and not even having a scene to shut up that annoying bitch Slide which everyone wished they had done since her first appearance in IDW’s Optimus Prime. People loves to say that it was Hasbro who made IDW come up with the Hasbroverse... When it was IDW themselves who suggested it and mandated it. Overall, the IDW Hasbroverse will be remembered as the party of struggling relevancy with the other ip’s latching onto Transformers to even get noticed by readers. Visionaries won’t be coming to Roosterteeth with a new cartoon any time soon or ever, heyoo!
Yeah I agree, I hated the way they portrayed the beast era in that continuity (with the exception of the beast planet guys on account I have never read the series that introduced but I wouldn't be surprised of they were just as bad as the other portrayals), especially with the unicron event and the mayhem group. And yeah, seemed like a huge drop in quality happened when revolution hit, shame since some of the hasbro franchises could've been done well as comics with the right people behind them but sadly that wasn't the case
(dis)Honorable Transformers blunder: practically completely losing the "transformer" kids market to something called Tobots and Carbots in some peninsula called South Korea.
Personally, I'm at the point where I just want NEW Transformers. Not just new figures, but new characters. That's why I'm really into Wildwheel and Thunderhowl from Cyberverse; they're, as far as I know, brand new characters with new designs and personalities.
Yes, G1 needs to be put to bed for a while. And on the 13, I'm still pissed Hasbro sat on those designs for Leader Class Prima and Megatronus. At least we got Alpha Trion in TR.
When i kept seeing only nothing but G1 in generations after a small spittle of beast wars and armada i had a thought, “oh and here i thought generations was plural. Guess hasbro didn’t get the memo.”
@@Ojunix Envisioned as retool of the TR Sky Shadow/Overlord mold for Power of The Primes. Never made it to plastic, sadly. www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/potp-prima-megatronus-png.28017399/
I gotta disagree with you on the conventions. I'll give you the fact that Botcon was a much better fan experience and had a better focus.But the hurdles it set to be involved in Botcons was a pain in the ass at times. Prices were pretty damn high just to attend and get the sets. I only got to get to go to one in 2006 mainly because I was right next door to it at the time. But that's not even the point. Hascon while less focused on our own fandom, did make it somewhat easier to just get in the door at times and the "Exclusives" were pretty easy to get mostly. Sure The best Hascon exclusive for TF was between an Optimus Prime Power Bank and a Headmaster Arcee, but you didn't necessarily have to go to Hascon to make it available to you. I never got close to Rhode Island and still got my hands on them. The Collectors club and Botcon evetually felt to me like a "True Fan" club and their yearly gatekeeping event. Didn't have the cash to pay 3 times for a deluxe, too bad so sad. And like you said by the end it felt really phoned in. They had cool ideas at one point for the fiction. Pre BW versions of the cast, Shattered Glass, and being kind of the jumping point of the 13 Primes, and I'll love them for letting them squeak out the Stunticon Job.But my stance is that a fan club whether it has collectors in the name or not needs to be for the fans. When they start making things that are looked at collectables first and toys second that's when they lost me. This is a brand built upon a kids toyline, first and foremost a club for that needs to include the kids too. The collectors club was primarily focused on pleasing the adult fanbase and giving them new shiny's only they could get. I'm actually glad the Collectors club went under. It's now on Hasbro themselves to try and please this market and they have the capability to make an interesting remold/repaint and put it out for only a slightly higher pricepoint. Also so glad the Thrilling 30 point wasn't a Windblade rampage. the picture you chose had me worried for a second.
For some reason, I found myself a bit disappointed in not mentioning the Repaint Wars/Combiner Wars toyline. Or just the trilogy as a whole. Piggy-backing off how they did Elita and her team wrong, so many characters were repaints or remolds of other toys. Some where pretty damn awesome in the start, but then... how many times did I buy Alpha Bravo? And then it got worse when they did the Fem Bots, since apparently they were all clones of Moonracer (or Starscream for Elita-1). So the Repaint Wars as some fans called it was riddled with so many repaints and remolds of all these characters, and it continued into Power of the Primes, which might as well have been Combiner Wars part 2. I'm glad we got some cool stuff like a new Abominus, but then some of the other stuff just felt tacked on. I bet you anything Elita and her team would've been much better toys if they didn't have the combine gimmick forced onto them. Or at least, they might've been a better chance they wouldn't have all been clones of the same kinda sorta decent figure. Ignoring the refrigerators on their backs and the clown shoes, as you called them. I totally can't unsee it now. With the WFC stuff, we're at least getting a new Blackarachnia and Elita-1... who's based off an Arcee who's already kinda being overshadowed by her Cyberverse counterpart. Ignoring that, the potential is there, and hopefully Hasbro and Takara get it that there is a demand for these characters and to put some more effort into making better toys for them. In any case, I don't mind remolds all that much, but at least make them good. I personally love the ER Seeker mold... even if I'm afraid I'm gonna break those two tabs at the shoulders. Both modes look beautiful.
I don’t think G1 isn’t that bad of a thing, as long as we’re not getting the same characters over and over again like how SS-86 is giving us some lesser seen characters I do kind of wish we got some other stuff outside of the Leader class Cybertron Optimus in siege and that hot shot repaint of hound in the generations selects line
To be fair to Hasbro on constantly releasing G1 based designs, the moment Kingdom was revealed to have a Beast Wars focus, about 2/3s of TF groups I'm in began complaining and even saying they would boycott the whole toyline, just because it was for them.
Biggest Blunder of the early 2010’s: The entire Aligned fiasco. With a brand running for nearly three or four decades and lore spanning just as long as that, Hasbro decided it was time to create a new continuity which could have a consistent mythology. Thus the Aligned Continuity was forged with the intention to be the Transformers’ answer to the Ultimate Marvel Universe and even came with it’s own production bible. The creation of Transformers: Prime was a good way to introduce the new continuity with the use of the the thirteen primes and ... If not for the fact that Hasbro decided to make High Moon’s War for Cybertron the introduction of this universe despite it having been made largely independent of Prime’s development and was mainly a big love letter to the G1 series back when it was cool to do so. Then the cartoon came out and lore contradictions started appearing in the Aligned continuity. Fall of Cybertron which attempted to help tie WFC to Prime with nods and mentions from the cartoon but it also created a whole host of continuity problems that undermined the goals of the Aligned universe. Such classics like why Starscream is on the Nemesis in Prime when he’s wanted in FOC, how Bumblebee loses his voice box in FOC vs Prime, two versions of Tantrum existing with one showing up in the Aligned novels as a Decepticon and the other appearing in a Prime magazine story as a Predacon clone without any mention made of the other Tantrum and so on were common sources of confusion for fans who attempted to make sense of it all. In addition, Hasbro also attempted to craft an extended universe within it featuring their other properties like MASK which never materialises. Then Robot in Disguise came along and everyone gave up trying to make the Aligned Continuity into a consistent universe akin to the original Stars Wars EU before the Disney buyout. What killed this continuity is due to the unwillingness of several groups of writers to cooperate with each other and would rather do their own thing, resulting in lore contradictions that would never happen under a story group’s watch. It wasn’t helped by the fact that Hasbro had once thought about absorbing the Transformers IDW universe into the Alignedverse while TF IDW Phase 2 was still very young after the launch of MTMTE and RID. The real nail in the coffin on the Aligned Continuity came not in the form of the sequel series Robots in Disguise but with the production bible put into a drawer and left to collect dust. TFWiki.net and other sources covers this topic much better than I can. The Aligned Continuity was a noble effort from Hasbro to create a consistent Transformers universe that non-fans can get into but they should have assembled a story group to guide its creation before attempting it.
That was INCREDIBLY irritating. Honestly, I was down for the idea of having a unified continuity and hey if Prime was to be the one that started it I was down for it... but Hasbro REALLY leaked lubricant when it came to actually building the universe by just saying "Hey this thing that was once said to be just its own thing? Guess what, it now leads into this TV series!". Then RiD came along and it's just so aggravating.
Honestly as for the G1 thing... I'm of two minds. For one thing, while I got into Transformers via stuff like UT where we got whole new designs every line? I'm just glad in general that we're getting really good versions of designs that are classic and work rather than basically hoping we get good designs next line. Plus I see it as being a good way of maybe giving this series some sense of uniformity that it hasn't quite had before. But on the other... it's annoying for sure to see Hasbro do nothing BUT G1 for the past couple of years and in ways that are really frustrating. For instance, I love the hell out of Siege Optimus Prime and feel he's one of the best new G1 Primes we've gotten in so long... but then they announce Earthrise Optimus and I'm just left cursing. I then see that they've done a design for Armada Prime and I'm hyped... but it's now 2020 with NO SIGN of that figure with them just saying that they just "haven't found a place for it" and I'm thinking "For goodness sakes who cares, just RELEASE THE DAMN THING!". You can't find a place for it? Make a place for it. I mean we technically still have the Generations line in a way, just put it there and be done with it. Don't just sit on your hands because it's not G1.
I just pretend that AOE and TLK don't exist, makes life better. Don't get me wrong, the first three films aren't spectacular but the designs are at least good.
I and a couple of other people think that for SS, the fact that they're going with the old G1 movie is 1, for the anniversary and 2, to stall time until a new film comes out, since we know that in the next couple of years, we'll have a Beast Wars film and Bumblebee sequel to then have those character designs turned into SS figures. But of course, they're running out of ideas to do for SS since they've finished up M1, are starting to close gaps in RotF, the Decepticons for DotM are pretty much complete at this point, and what else from there. Now yes, I know all of us are _begging_ for the rest of the movie dinobots and pretty much all of AoE and TLK. But the anniversary is approaching next year so they wanna cash in for that nostalgia (since they are more dependent on that s*it like Disney. ESPECIALLY Disney-)
Based on store listings we're still going to get live action figures in Studio Series, '86 is just going to be part of it, much like the G1 parts of Kingdom. But yeah overall I do agree about the constant rehashes of G1, personally I miss when Generations figures felt like UPDATES of G1 character designs and weren't all about cartoon accuracy, I think that's a big part of the staleness.
Great list, it managed to remind me angers I had gotten over already. And one thing you left out...SO MANY US ONLY EXCLUSIVES! Distribution in general, really, not to mention the higher cost for smaller toys, Cliffjumper is inexcusable, the toy itself is good...but it sets up a very ominous precedent, as not only it's gonna justify smaller toys, but it also brought back partsforming in a real bad way.
Well it also goes both ways I would call the tail end of the Dark of the Moon line a big fail since the final wave was only in Asia you had two Soundwaves who were both good, Que who was really good, and Leadfoot which screwed over the fans who wanted all of the Wreckers
I'll be honest I was waiting for a rant on the Cyberverse toy line being nothing but a line of gimmicks. Which is somewhat understandable as it is for kids (sort of like a transitionary step from the Rescue-Bots line to the mainline for children). But then they give an animated series that has been the best animated series I have seen since the end of Prime. The show gave me characters that I would love to get but the figures (most of which being more of a brick than a G1 combiner all to fill out a gimmick) are just so... meh. (okay there was both the spark armor and collect-to-build sub-lines that had decent toys, but they were only for a handful of the characters in the show)
I mean, Euro G1 and G2 get conflated all the time. Hell, The Ultimate Guide put the Euro G1 spotlight in the G2 chapter saying "while not technically released under the G2 banner, these figures are considered by fans to be G2 due to their aesthetic and design philosophy..." except I've never actually met a fan who thinks that, so I don't know where they keep getting this idea, but it's not exclusively a BotCon thing.
Okay I’m gonna argue number 2 a bit. I think the purpose of the shared mold for at least Moonracer and the other combiner fembots was a matter of uniformity for the Elita-1 combiner so she didn’t look super bulky in combined mode. That’s how I look at that point though, and I understand your reason for hating that concept.
I honestly think that Chromia should get like a sort of van or armored truck mode to go along with Ironhide. Don't know exactly why but I guess the two of them should just be the swolobots.
I hope Ultra Class Cyberverse Bumblebee gets treated by the Plastic Addict. The spoiler on that toy isn't accurate to the show, they put it on there so that he looks even more like Armada Hot Shot, just to spite the Addict.
As someone who grew up with Beast Wars, even I say It would be nice to see some Unicron Trilogy things, or even RiD 2001 things for sure. The problem with the former though might not be a lack of interest but potential confusion and maybe even shame. By confusion, I specifically mean the naming conventions contradicting G1, which is made worse by the fact G1 themes are so prevelant now in the main stream. For example: In Armada there is an Autobot who is orange with a grappling hook. Any G1 fan would call him "Grapple" but in Armada they call him "Smokescreen" which refers to in G1 an entirely different Autobot, who is blue / white and based on a car. In Energon, there is an attack boat decepticon called Mirage even though in G1 the name is for an autobot who looks like a classic race car. The naming system was very much like this all over the place largely because it was an effort to retain trademarks. However this would be confusion not only to G1 collectors but also anyone who might not remember -everyone- from the Unicron trilogy. I suspect Hasbro doesn't really care about the UT generation yet, but if they did this would be the only viable excuse they could have to not revisit it. The least they could do though is give us a properly realized Armada Optimus, as the PotP evolution gimmick would be perfectly executed in that theoretical toy without being overloaded by sound and auto-morph gimmicks. This is especially considering we got Armada Megatron in Combiner Wars, which would be a good companion piece.
I feel really sad that I never got to go to any Botcons. Being in England, not knowing where or when they were until it was too late, and not having the money or opportunity, it meant I missed SO MANY things. Exclusives, talks, comics, mags etc, a bunch of stuff that only ever showed up at that con. As a kid I was hugely into Transformers, and it was only around 2015 where the franchise really lost me. Sad I won't ever get the chance to experience the con how it was :C
I personally like only Dark of the moon and the 07 film from Michael bay, cause those two at least had some semblance of a story but it is only my opinion
Am I the only person who likes Revenge of the Fallen? Really? (Although honestly I think they should have stopped after Dark of the Moon. Age of Extinction was a huge disappointment to me, and as a result, I didn’t even watch The Last Knight.)
Funny thing, Only the Victorion set and its repaint, didn't use the Moonracer mold for female limb bots. Even the upcoming God Neptune, whose female bot Scylla, is still a remold of Moonracer.
Having started with Armada I can understand if they don't want to do too much with intrustive gimmicks for minicons but personally I would like to see a little love for the Unicron trilogy. Like maybe an Armada Hot shot with good manuverability and posability, or an Armada Unicron or Megatron that is nice. I could see them using Minicons in sets like the teams that could make a weapon but perhaps use it as they either become a nice new attachment to a character or help form a weapon for them. Like if Hot Shot's could be either it's standard helicopter or with some transformation becomes the hilt of a sword or something. I want to see the equivalent of a Lightning Collection for Transformers. Sure you get the G1 but like half the line will br something not Gen 1. Like it's been so long since a White Dino Thunder that was cool came out. What with Transformers prevents them from mixing in to their constant nostalgia some awknowledgements of things after the original?
Honestly when considering the intrusive gimmicks, I'd say that should be even more of a reason for them to do UT stuff because honestly, I'd argue it was never the designs themselves that were bad, it was just that most of the toys had too much gimmickry that intruded on basic functions and a lot of the designs are things that people love so they should be jumping at the chance to give them proper redos.
Well they did do Universe 2.0 Hot Shot who used his Armada design but the gimmick being he still comes with Jolt, it is not bad. He has fully articulated shoulders for once
@@emberfist8347 He's good... but he still suffers. Jolt can't stand up at all, that figure I've heard had many issues with parts popping off and then there's the fact that unless you got the Henkei version of the mold? Because Hasbro decided to save some cash by cutting the missile launcher, it results in you being forced to resort to maneuvering the kibble a certain way just so that Hot Shot can move his arms.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249 Well he can still have complete articulation of his shoulders when you move the back kibble. The original Hot Shot inspired the meme Why My Shoulders Hurt because he could only move outward.
@@emberfist8347 I addressed that in the reply. Either way, he was a good figure... but he required fiddling to really figure out and when considering that the entire issue could've been solved if they just went with what Henkei went with? It's a little frustrating.
Hot take: There are too many Euro G1 fanboys with creative control in the comics and club stuff and that's how we got a G2 boxset that wasn't G2 and that horrible butchering of Star Saber while Thunderclash was made into a galactic famous hero. Not that I dislike Thunderclash, but it feels so backwards to prop him up while Star Saber is mangled into a bootleg space marine.
From the bottom of my heart, I just have to say in regards to number 9... *deep breath* THANK YOU! Oh my lord it was incredibly friggin' annoying being a Transformers fan in the wait for Bumblebee excited for the prospect of a reboot only to keep hearing the producer rattle off conflicting information every single time he was interviewed.
I can’t believe that in a line called Power of the Primes, a line that brought back the combiner gimmick from Combiner Wars, didn’t give us a Nexus Prime. The line gave every voyager their own “Enigma of Combination”, the literal relic of Nexus Prime, but no Nexus Prime himself. What even.
Blunder of the Year: Making Earthrise TC, SW, Ironhide, Prowl, Ramjet and Dirge retail exclusives. Distributions were woeful on them for those outside of the US.
I agree when you say that we get too much g1 I hope we only don’t get g1 for the next few years I’m getting sick of always g1 do a prime reboot a unicron trilogy reboot hasbro I would buy that
Dude I've been sick of G1, I got into Transformers with UT and so far I still haven't seen those guys since 2006, I straight up stopped collecting after 2014 cause it's the same shit as usual
The Machinima series were done by a japanese animation company that had previously done Transformers Go. So they were used to doing 2D animation with occasional CGI. Probably they were picked because Takara hold quite a large stake in the company.
Maybe, but Hasbro didn't really give the budget to make good animation, especially from Tastunoko Production, who also has a long history with America, with their TV series being the first examples of dubbed anime being a success globally.
I think the way they should have handled the Primes is to have two forms. The Titanmaster as an aspect of them like a part of them that carries their power and the full ones which come in 2 sizes. And if they want to keep them mysterious have them have extra pieces they can swap around to give different forms with them being considered what they were seen as in the past.
special bonus on what you were saying about all the female autobots getting 1 single mold, they heavily modified it to make Tentakill, but for Scylla, despite being a full repaint of Tentakill normally, has just all the Girl Parts^tm stuck back on
Speaking of top 10 blunders, although being just a top 10 list I’d make a personal honorable mention of Activision literally shutting down all TF multiplayer servers on several TF games.
I would make a personal one. The shift away form making Decepticons. The first movie the entire cast was made into toys. The second a few were left out but no big deal, but it seriously started being problem by the third movie where in addition to forcing Soundwave to the tail end, Crowbar and Hatchet never got full scale toys which sucked because they were a cool concept they had identical vehicle modes but distinct robot modes. Age of Extinction only Lockdown and Galvatron were released in the states, and only Stinger and Dispensor were made by Takara. The Last Knight I feel is the worse because they only decepticons were Megatron, Barricade, Nitro Zeus and Berserker. Mowhawk, Dreadbot, and worst of all Onslaught were left to dry despite being more memorable and having more screentime than Berserker who shelf-warmed worse than Mudflap. I was particularly peeved by Onslaught because he was great. A Decepticon tow truck, a Semi tow truck, and he reuses the design of Long Haul one of the my favorite Decepticons.
Travis Knight didn't have an easy time working on Bumblebee as he was pressured by Hasbro to make the movie be able to stand out as both a prequel and a possible reboot as they weren't sure what they were gonna do about the movie franchise. It's not that he had no idea what he wanted Bumblebee to be, it's that he was creatively constrained by Hasbro's indecision about the future of the movieverse. I think the more important issue would be the one step changers. One could argue,"they are for little kids" so what, do kids deserve to play with trash poorly engineered bootleg quality toys? All the toys from 1984 till 2014 were considered toys for kids, and they did admirable,apparently it was a decision done after complaints about the movieverse toys being too problematic for kids. That is understandable, but kids have various degrees of attention span, the short tempered ones are the ones who get bores easily, they complain to their parents, and those parents (mostly the Karen stereotype) are the ones most vocal and obnoxious "this ia a bad product, my son is smart and couldn't figure out this trash" no lady it's just your son gets bored easily. Now all these 1step changers are clogging up store shelves with mediocre products that end up on clearance anyways, heck i can still find TLK one step changers in stores today.
My MP G1 Megatron has a couple breaks. Can still transform and pose, but have to remove the broken bits while transforming and putting them back in when done.
"New movies that make good money." Adjusting for inflation, Bumblebee is the lowest earning film in Transformers history. Granted it's because it focused so hard on nostalgic pull that it forgot the plot entirely. Also not to mention it has the same faults in the designs and the humour that the other movies had. Too little vehicle parts present to make them good translations into toys, and low brow just scummy feeling humour that is very clear only one person was laughing at it. Charlie was good until the end of the movie where her character arc results in her jumping into water... to stop a robot from drowning.
As a Beast Wars fan, I’m definitely getting a few of the Kingdom toys. Blackarachnia is the first one I’ve seen that actually looks GOOD in spider mode (Beast Machines not included). Only shame is that we’re not getting Inferno. The OTHER Inferno. The fun Inferno that turns into a giant fire ant and screams gibberish in service of the colony and the Que- Er... Rrrrrroyalty!
Recent Cyberverse: Gimmick toys aim toward children we understand, but the implementation and execution of spring loaded gimmicks should have been phased out by now, that's one reason we don't have spring loaded weapons right? spring tension and misfiring.
When the world needed him most, he returned to his people.
The king had finally returned
Another RiD 2001/Unicron Trilogy kid here, yeah, all of the "G1 all the time" is getting pretty tired. It's still fun to see characters that are more obscure to me like the later post-cartoon G1 toys like the Headmasters and Targetmasters, and some of the Japanese G1 exclusive characters, but it really feels like RiD 2001 and the Unicron Trilogy in particular are being left in the dust. There have been a handful of new toys and homages but nothing like what Beast Wars or even Beast Machines have gotten.
Wfc seige did the galaxy upgrade optimus prime witch was a reditration l of cybertron Optimus prime. If only they did that with Megatron.
Hasbro had a missed or wasted opportunity with the Cyberverse spark armor gimmic with Megatron partically with those battle ships spark armors. If that opportunity happened then we would've got a redecko of Megatron as armada Megatron combine with his spark armor Tittle wave, as an omage to the armada anime.
RID can go to hell
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Witch rid?
The anime or the 2015 rid?
All I want is a good figure of hotshot, that's all I want
@@Dualbladedscorpion7737 Neither, both are decent.
The "All Geewun, all the time" mentality in Generations and the lack of quality control on Masterpiece are two things that HasTak really don't want to have going on at the same time.
I'm seeing more and more collectors look at upcoming releases for Kingdom and SS86 and say "We don't need Masterpiece anymore", because Hasbro are pumping out super-screen accurate figures that pose great, have solid paintjobs, and have decent quality control in the mainline, for a fraction of the cost, and they do more than two characters per year.
Seriously. I look at the new MP Starscream and I think my Earthrise Starscream was a WAY better deal. It didn't cost me an arm and a leg, it LOOKS cool and it's FUN to transform instead of being a chore. I have the old MP Skywarp and I think I left it half-transformed in its box. It's that obnoxious. ER Starscream is an actual TOY.
@@Undrave And considering that ER Screamer is in many respects an upscaled KO of a toy from 2006 that was showing its age by 2009, that's saying a lot.
The generation 1 figures are so good! I don’t understand why TJ got so mad. The figures are the best they have been in years! We are getting almost the full cast of figures at a good price with articulation and detail of masterpieces. I’m pretty sure the only reason studio series is using G1 is because they couldn’t fit the figures into kingdom. It’s the same with the Netflix series, they are figures that they couldn’t fit into earthrise. The lines fit so perfectly together.
@@jamesattack7420 Probably because there's an "S" in Generations, but it seems laser-focused on just the first one, while every other line gets mostly left out.
@@ToaArcan I wouldn't really say it's a KO in any respects. The reason they're so similar is because they had the original designer/ engineer for the seeker mold come back since it was so good at the time. He didn't want to change anything other than adding a few new design choices for updated engineering techniques to increase articulation and robot mode looks.
I grew up with the original RiD, Armada and Animated, so your point about "G1 all over again" just represents how I've been feeling for the past few years about the toylines
Yeah... I miss the times when Hasbro used to experiment with character designs. I am so tired of Megatron being the same old gray tank time after time.
Bring back the bat mobile! Or give him a new intimidating design. Not just dude with a cannon.
@@HORRIOR1 nowadays he's either a grey tank or a grey jet, or both. At least in Animated he was a grey helicopter (which I think suits him well)
@@pinkstinger Animated was the first attempt as making a new Megatron that was a call back to G1. Him being a dual rotor helicopter was a unique vehicle mode idea which gave him his G1 fusion cannon and sword(s) (the OG toy had a sword if anyone was wondering).
But now EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER has made a similar call back design, from Prime to Earthrise.
I would be fine with Megatron being at least a triple changer, but we're getting to a point where anything other than a gray tank is unacceptable.
@@HORRIOR1 much like Optimus always being a truck, a front-nosed one to be specific. I'm cool with Prime always being a red truck, but I miss him being a firetruck (RiD/Cybertron/Animated), or a pickup truck (Alternators), or maybe simply not having them windshield pecs (Armada). Hopefully the nostalgia cycle will reach those days eventually
I know, right? I really miss when they'd let themselves get a little crazy with character designs and characterisations. Armada Optimus, for example, is a fun and divergent design, which nevertheless still looks recognisable. Heck, Beast Wars was super-different for having the entire premise be utterly new, with no characters from the original as main-stays, just the occasional cameo.
I miss when they'd try new things from time to time, and not feel constrained by G1. (Though I'm bias, since I think the original G1 cartoon is awful, and gets FAR too much unjustified praise).
"Are ya sick of G1 yet?"
Freaking THANK you!
What happened to that Armada Optimus Prototype at a convention before with Star Convoy the retool of POTP Optimus?
Neo_Zian8904 Star Convoy was released, its part of generations selects.
"Optimus Prime, Super Mode!" I just want to hear those words again
I was just tired of it being strictly season 1-4 g1 stuff.
I really wish we could get victory stuff...
I really want a new armada prime that combines with his trailer.
I may be alone in this, but the largest issue I have with Transformers, as a whole, is how they have demystified Optimus Prime in an attempt to make him seem grander. Look at G1, every version of it. Look at the Unicron Trilogy, or Dreamwave, or Animated. Optimus was truly profound in those- especially in G1- not because he was ancient, or the most powerful, or because he was always right. He was profound because he was believable, yet larger than life. He was the dad that his soldiers- and his audience- may not of had. He was the friend that would always listen. He didn’t always have an answer, but he would do his best to help find one. Hell, he’s the only character in popular fiction at the time to defy the “Chosen One” trope. Luke? Brought balance to the Force. He-Man? Always came out on top. Optimus was not the chosen one, not the being selected by destiny. However, due to who he was and how he impacted those around him, it was Optimus, not Rodimus, that ended the Hate Plague by using the Matrix, which- once again- could only be used by the Chosen One. In that, Optimus essentially made a case against destiny and proved that the true measure of a person is what they choose to do, not what they’re meant to do. Up until Animated, every Optimus followed a similar stead. They were normal, played games with the humans, made mistakes, felt embarrassed, yet they were always the hero who put his life on the line for anyone and anything else. Then you get to Prime. Optimus now spoke without constants, he was stoic, and he was always depicted as being apart from his crew. Sure, he was there, but he was never as tangible as the other Primes. Movie Prime, RID Prime, and- to a lesser extent- Cyberverse Prime all followed suit. Though IDW played around with the idea, they just stopped short of essentially called Optimus the 13th God of their race, and everything he did was always questioned and scrutinized by characters that made Optimus feel like a politician or a religious being, not like a friend. Perhaps I’m just too sappy, but I still think of the Optimus that wanted to decorate the base for Halloween because Sari asked, the Optimus that joked about his lack of mouth with Raf and Carlos, the Optimus that consoled Omega Supreme and told Chase that we need to pursue dreams to make them real. That’s what made Optimus mean so much to so many: you wish you could be him, and he was close enough to reality that you could actually emulate him. That’s why children cried as Optimus passed, why they rejoiced when he came back, and what made him endure for all these decades when other cartoon leader characters- like Duke, He-Man, and Matt Tracker- never made such an impression. When you make Optimus a messiah, he’s simply too far removed to elicit such a response. He’s too good, and this you loose the ability to identify with him. To me, that’s the greatest misstep with Transformers as a whole.
In short, we loved him cause he was real
Yet fans complained about Optimus being more violent in the Micheal Bay movies.
I know this comment is a bit old, but I have to clarify that Luke has NEVER been the choosen one. It has been stated in many of occasions that despite everything that happened Anakin is the real choosen one has he was the one to slay the emperor and directly cause the fall of the jedi, hence bringing balance. This minsconception makes me sad, cause it devalues both Luke and Anakin has characters. It devalues, luke because it gives people the impression that his actions were destined when they were not and Anakin, due to him being a strong subvertion of the choosen one troope has generally you expect this type of characters to be pentagons or turn into pentagons of rightiouness....but, Anakins entire life is filled with screw up after screw up....he was the choosen one, but he was also the most human and flawed character in the series.
@@d-zastroid7427 hi dude how are you
Haven't heard ginger grant in a while. good to see Plastic Addict again.
As a fan of rid 2001 and the unicron trilogy I hope they come back some time soon
I like this new concept of using Plastic Addict. Exploring the other parts of the Transformers Franchise and showcasing their faults would be a good step in a better and fresh direction for this show. Keep up the good work TJ, and glad to see one of my favorite TH-camrs back.
I'm fine with lots of G1 because the figures they're putting out were either obscure or for characters who desperately needed a cartoon accurate figure, like repugnus, the seacons, skullsmasher, earthrise Ironhide, cliffjumper, and soundwave, kingdom warpath and (hopefully) huffer, hell even bumblebee finally has a good G1 inspired figure. I just hope that they do the same with beast wars, like give us a new razorbeast, or transmetal rhinox, or even a leader/commander class torca, that'd be cool.
I think those BW figures will only be possible if they’re tackling BW II and Neo.
Oh man, you have no idea how much of an idiotic grin hearing that old music again gave me.
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Pretty surprised you didn't cover how the Bumblebee as well as the Netflix Siege staffs treated Peter Cullen and other union workers when it comes to voice acting because the stories we've heard about how the Bumblebee team didn't want to pay Cullen a lot of money to voice the very character he brought to life and instead having him do a voice over John Bailey's original voice for Optimus in the Bumblebee movie was pretty freaking insulting especially since like I said before Cullen was a big reason why Optimus Prime's a loved character in the first place. The Siege Netflix series wasn't any better because like the Bumblebee staff them and Hasbro didn't want to pay union actors to voice characters and instead used non union workers.
Like I said it's a scummy way to treat the people who helped brought beloved characters back in the day to life especially since both Cullen and Weilker had shown they still love doing the roles.
kaijuguy19 That’s in 2020 and the video is covering blunders of the 2010’s. If it had broken out earlier though, it would definitely get a mention.
@@rayvenkman2087 Bumblebee came out before 2020 so it counts.
@@emberfist8347 True. Though, we only started hearing about his experiences behind the scenes the following year.
Biggest Blunder of the late 2010’s: The lack of celebration from Hasbro for Beast Wars’ 20th Anniversary.
With the series that actually saved the brand from dying out in the late 90’s, you think Hasbro would do something to honour it on it’s 20th birthday. Hah!
Hasbro was too busy going full on G1 under John Warden’s direction at the time to have bothered giving a non-G1/Movie series a fully dedicated line and lazily crapped out a Beast Machines repaint for the Platinum Series. Yes, a BM repaint to celebrate BW while they were putting their efforts towards Titans Return.
Takara Tomy did better with the anniversary by giving us a Masterpiece Optimus Primal and Cheetor. Before the price increase came along in the form of Megatron and Dinobot.
Sure, Hasbro did eventually give us an Optimal Optimus for Power of the Primes but that was fan-voted and a year late to the party. Less said about IDW’s take on Beast Wars in Unicron, the better.
At least we're getting BW's 25th anniversary being celebrated with Kingdom's new BW figures and the new BW comic series from IDW next year. I see that as an apology from Hasbro on that part.
kaijuguy19 It’s inexcusable for them to have done nothing for Beast Wars’ 20th when they did so with it’s 10th Anniversary by giving us a toyline to celebrate it.
Imagine the BBC Doctor Who doing nothing for it’s 50th Anniversary in 2013. It would be the blunder of the century.
At least BW had anniversaries, Transformers Animated got zilch on its 10th ;( Maybe some day.
Didn't help the Optimal Optimus was not that great & had a lot of QC issues from figure to figure & the hollowness just killed any interest I had in that figure, & IDW's take on Beast Wars characters in Unicron can suck on a Allicon's wet tail.
Kunoros Hound of Athreos literally anything, animated was my g1. The show literally got no acknowledgement from Hasbro on its 10th anniversary, and yet TFP gets one. I’m happy with the TFP anniversary but it would have been good if animated got the same treatment, like with reissues of hard to get figures from Japan. Like Blackout and jet pack Optimus prime.
"if you've played with one female autobot you've played with them all"
-probably Sideways
man, I wasn't sure my dislike of how G1 centric the franchise was going was gonna be addressed but yeah, I miss how different the 2000's were especially since I grew up with the Unicron Trilogy where their designs were some of the most unique in the franchise and there didn't seem to be an aversion to using vehicle parts as the body instead of the shell of the body and I swear I saw some people disparage a lot of the stuff from that time, hope they start going forward or else I'll have to resort to 3rd parties taking years to make some cybertron toys
I got into the hobby around 2017 or so, I liked being able to make a cohesive shelf of G1-ish bots. But I have to agree that series like prime are absolutely not getting the respect they deserve. I picked up kingdom galvatron, Dinobot and scorponok, and they really drove home how much a different spin can change the feel of a toy. Galvatron’s undefined alternate mode let the toy be a really cohesive and hefty figure. Dinobot is extraordinarily streamlined and hews so much closer to normal action figures than most bots. Scorponok is… there, but he’s certainly different from most bots.
The blunder that keep happening over and over.
Over packing a toy in every waves, and the end-of-the-line curse, where some toys are just one-shot deals, only to be scalped ont the aftermarket.
Le Kanraposte They never repacked TR Twintwist but they sure did repacked Siege Astrotrain for Earthrise or skipping over CW Wave 2 completely for the UK.
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That was a first and very welcome.
Still, Siege Shockwave. Siege Shockwave everywhere.
What bugged most about the Machinima series was that they didn't really use the line's gimmicks in their stories. Combiner Wars featured the Combiners deciding to screw over their individual component Transformers and declare themselves the new being. The Constructions got to separate but they were basically drones, like in Energon. Titans Return did feature the Titans, a whole three of them, but no "Titanmasters" and one of the Titans was Starscream in Trypticon's body. Power Of The Primes (which admittedly I need to finish) doesn't seem to use that gimmick either. And all three came out AFTER their toyline ENDED! Armada media did a better job with the Mini-Cons because at least half their gimmick mattered to the story.
Then Machinma shuts down without warning and Go90, who had the US exclusive rights to Prime Wars, eventually folds as well, and if it wasn't for Rooster Teeth it would gone for good (or was that one of the shows they recently purged?) so that whole deal was a failure. They did all the things wrong with that show.
Iron Man at least updates his armor look every few years. I think Hasbro is afraid to lose a popular name again, but you'd think Cyberverse would at least create new characters...or more than three.
...there defos was at least a titanmaster in titans return, that's how metroplex got the laser eyes
Hey Rid 2015 created a bunch of new characters of varying quality
@@jettlucashayes8508 And there won't be too many more after that. I think there's one in EarthSpark.
"We don't wan to repeat the past."
Hasbro, releasing 6 G1 styled Optimus Prime's in the span of a year, would fire you on the spot.
Because he sells. The money is always right!
I used to praise the Michael Bay Transformers movies for reviving the franchise and making them popular again. Then TF4 and 5 came out, and I realized that if they kept going then Transformers would be remembered outside of its existing fan base as a terrible franchise made up of five horrible movies and other media that the general public wouldn’t give a chance because of said movies, they needed to stop if they didn’t want Transformers to disappear into obscurity again like it did after Beast Wars ended.
It sucks because these movies were several fans introduction to the franchise and did catapult the franchise back into the limelight again after years. So they have their place in history. But now that they’ve done their job in getting attention, they really should’ve ended the Bay run on the films and gotten someone who really cared about Transformers.
Jonathan Delgado We did eventually get that with Travis Knight and Bumblebee, but it should have happened much earlier. Plus, as TJ said, even Bumblebee’s promotion didn’t do it any favours as they couldn’t decide on whether its a prequel or a reboot.
I still really like the first movie and I love the designs of the movieverse transformers... But everything else about them was definitely bad.
Arthus850 I barely remember the marketing or promotional material. Personally I didn’t care what continuity it was attached to because I was just hoping for a decent story.
honestly TF4 is my guilty pleasure movie, TF5 on the other hand that shit was just BAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDD I think the reboot is going to be the best thing to ever happen to these movies with someone who gets the franchise and doesn't just want to make crappy teen targeted movies I wasn't even going to see Bumblebee until word of the mouth got around
Remember when Studio Series gave us a Crankcase toy that was actually a recolored Crowbar, which itself was a retool of Berserker, which was basically Crankcase?
All they had to do was give a redeco to the Berserker mold. But, nope! Let's use a guy that looks different, give it different colors, and say that this toy represents a character in the movie despite not looking like said character!
Seriously, what were they thinking!?
On that note however, I suppose it would have been a bit redundant. But this is Transformers we're talking about.
Well that still isn't the worst they gave us this decade. There was Airacnid, and and First Edition Optimus Prime and Arms Micron Gia Unicron and Skullitron. Beserker still was a mistake I wanted Onslaught damn it.
@@emberfist8347 True. No idea how they managed to screw up any of these things. Also, it would've been great if they had given us more Decepticons from the movies in general.
@@jameszilla2879 So true AOE I kinda get they wanted to push the Dinobots but TLK has no excuses.
@@emberfist8347 Yeah. Bad repaints instead of the rest of the Decepti-crew? Ugh. On the bright side, that line did give us a great Scorn toy, even though he wasn't in the movie.
i actually really enjoy orthia because of her symmetry and the fact that those hotdog cars are the only cw molds skinny enough to be considered limbs
Biggest Blunder of the mid-2010’s: The Transformers/IDW Hasbroverse.
The whole thing is a blunder ranging from awkwardly putting in the IDW GI Joe(a series which had been a few years prior to the crossover) despite having been presented as a separate universe(Infestation anyone?) from the Transformers to everything to do with the failfest that is Transformers vs Visionaries which is a prime example of how not to bring back an old dead property and written by someone who once commented that they would bash white males in the mouth with a baseball bat. From the awful redesigns to the unlikable characters, you’d wish the Decepticons had sic a phase sixer on their world.
IDW M.A.S.K is an outright flop, Action Man was a thing, Revolutionaries existed and IDW ROM the Space Knight was lukewarm at best. The Micronaughts had the most positive reception but the ongoing book didn’t last too long before cancellation.
Transformers was doing alright before the Revolution event but afterwards, the books were struggling to stay afloat and were routinely criticised for their drop in quality by many fans including Lost Light. The book that managed to surpass B.O.T in terms of sheer head-banging stupidity and has the most self-congratulatory bullshit ending in the brand’s history(Rung is Primus? Get the fuck out of here) that reeks of sheer egotism which would make Steven Moffat proud and only the circlejerk groups on TFW2005 would consider it flawless.
From Revolution to Unicron, writers had to deal with the overbearing editorial mandates from IDW to have an event once per year akin to Marvel’s yearly predatory practice in attempt to get more readers. Problem is that the TF fans wants to read about their favourite bots while the casual reader wouldn’t know who the hell is Action Man if they’re only going by the IDWverse TF books. Prior to Revolution, people were praising them for not doing event books like what Marvel and DC would do and thought that events like Dark Cybertron was just a celebratory thing for the 30th Anniversary. How wrong we were.
Several crossover books were made but only the ROM vs the Transformers miniseries was worth a damn because it actually tried to organically incorporate aspects of the other franchise into the framework of the Transformers IDW 1.0 Continuity.
The most controversial thing to come out of the post-Revolution line is Audrey Sitterson’s and it wasn’t even the quality of the books themselves that attracted controversy. With the most insensitive comment relating to a tragedy since Katie Hopkins was born, it astounded every sane person that the writer was not immediately fired for causing bad PR for the company despite other writers having been sacked for far less and for being the biggest ass to have worked on GI Joe.
Audrey became so hated by the GI Joe community that they refused to buy any comic bearing his name and has the hilarious distinct of being the writer who had the fastest cancellation on a comic book they were writing before the first issue had even come out.
Then there was the Unicron miniseries which was to end off the failed Hasbroverse. It would have been an admirable effort if not for the fact that it did the Beast Era so, so dirty by making them into Unicron’s mooks and not even having a scene to shut up that annoying bitch Slide which everyone wished they had done since her first appearance in IDW’s Optimus Prime.
People loves to say that it was Hasbro who made IDW come up with the Hasbroverse... When it was IDW themselves who suggested it and mandated it.
Overall, the IDW Hasbroverse will be remembered as the party of struggling relevancy with the other ip’s latching onto Transformers to even get noticed by readers. Visionaries won’t be coming to Roosterteeth with a new cartoon any time soon or ever, heyoo!
Yeah I agree, I hated the way they portrayed the beast era in that continuity (with the exception of the beast planet guys on account I have never read the series that introduced but I wouldn't be surprised of they were just as bad as the other portrayals), especially with the unicron event and the mayhem group.
And yeah, seemed like a huge drop in quality happened when revolution hit, shame since some of the hasbro franchises could've been done well as comics with the right people behind them but sadly that wasn't the case
Been a fan for WAY too long. Glad you're still going.
Im a huge fan of yours, you tell it how it is. When Optimus Prime runs for president you should be part of it's office
(dis)Honorable Transformers blunder: practically completely losing the "transformer" kids market to something called Tobots and Carbots in some peninsula called South Korea.
Also a huge blunder for the Hasbro Korea divison to hardly import anything, ESPECIALLY the Prime Wars Trilogy. Or lack of it.
Personally, I'm at the point where I just want NEW Transformers. Not just new figures, but new characters. That's why I'm really into Wildwheel and Thunderhowl from Cyberverse; they're, as far as I know, brand new characters with new designs and personalities.
Reason I got Hammerbyte the moment I saw him
Yes, G1 needs to be put to bed for a while.
And on the 13, I'm still pissed Hasbro sat on those designs for Leader Class Prima and Megatronus.
At least we got Alpha Trion in TR.
When i kept seeing only nothing but G1 in generations after a small spittle of beast wars and armada i had a thought, “oh and here i thought generations was plural. Guess hasbro didn’t get the memo.”
If Kingdom's any indication then we're going to see more eras being represented again at least which is long overdue at this point.
kaijuguy19 you’d think by that name it would be primarily beast wars, but there’s bits of G1 in it because hasbro can’t help themselves
Wait Leader Class Prima & Megatronus?
When & where & are there any pictures of them?
@@Ojunix Envisioned as retool of the TR Sky Shadow/Overlord mold for Power of The Primes.
Never made it to plastic, sadly.
www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/potp-prima-megatronus-png.28017399/
I gotta disagree with you on the conventions. I'll give you the fact that Botcon was a much better fan experience and had a better focus.But the hurdles it set to be involved in Botcons was a pain in the ass at times. Prices were pretty damn high just to attend and get the sets. I only got to get to go to one in 2006 mainly because I was right next door to it at the time. But that's not even the point. Hascon while less focused on our own fandom, did make it somewhat easier to just get in the door at times and the "Exclusives" were pretty easy to get mostly. Sure The best Hascon exclusive for TF was between an Optimus Prime Power Bank and a Headmaster Arcee, but you didn't necessarily have to go to Hascon to make it available to you. I never got close to Rhode Island and still got my hands on them.
The Collectors club and Botcon evetually felt to me like a "True Fan" club and their yearly gatekeeping event. Didn't have the cash to pay 3 times for a deluxe, too bad so sad. And like you said by the end it felt really phoned in. They had cool ideas at one point for the fiction. Pre BW versions of the cast, Shattered Glass, and being kind of the jumping point of the 13 Primes, and I'll love them for letting them squeak out the Stunticon Job.But my stance is that a fan club whether it has collectors in the name or not needs to be for the fans. When they start making things that are looked at collectables first and toys second that's when they lost me. This is a brand built upon a kids toyline, first and foremost a club for that needs to include the kids too. The collectors club was primarily focused on pleasing the adult fanbase and giving them new shiny's only they could get. I'm actually glad the Collectors club went under. It's now on Hasbro themselves to try and please this market and they have the capability to make an interesting remold/repaint and put it out for only a slightly higher pricepoint.
Also so glad the Thrilling 30 point wasn't a Windblade rampage. the picture you chose had me worried for a second.
For some reason, I found myself a bit disappointed in not mentioning the Repaint Wars/Combiner Wars toyline. Or just the trilogy as a whole. Piggy-backing off how they did Elita and her team wrong, so many characters were repaints or remolds of other toys. Some where pretty damn awesome in the start, but then... how many times did I buy Alpha Bravo? And then it got worse when they did the Fem Bots, since apparently they were all clones of Moonracer (or Starscream for Elita-1). So the Repaint Wars as some fans called it was riddled with so many repaints and remolds of all these characters, and it continued into Power of the Primes, which might as well have been Combiner Wars part 2. I'm glad we got some cool stuff like a new Abominus, but then some of the other stuff just felt tacked on. I bet you anything Elita and her team would've been much better toys if they didn't have the combine gimmick forced onto them. Or at least, they might've been a better chance they wouldn't have all been clones of the same kinda sorta decent figure. Ignoring the refrigerators on their backs and the clown shoes, as you called them. I totally can't unsee it now.
With the WFC stuff, we're at least getting a new Blackarachnia and Elita-1... who's based off an Arcee who's already kinda being overshadowed by her Cyberverse counterpart. Ignoring that, the potential is there, and hopefully Hasbro and Takara get it that there is a demand for these characters and to put some more effort into making better toys for them. In any case, I don't mind remolds all that much, but at least make them good. I personally love the ER Seeker mold... even if I'm afraid I'm gonna break those two tabs at the shoulders. Both modes look beautiful.
I don’t think G1 isn’t that bad of a thing, as long as we’re not getting the same characters over and over again like how SS-86 is giving us some lesser seen characters
I do kind of wish we got some other stuff outside of the Leader class Cybertron Optimus in siege and that hot shot repaint of hound in the generations selects line
This is the light of 2020
Giving every Cyberverse figure a gimmick (because that worked so well for Armada)
To be fair to Hasbro on constantly releasing G1 based designs, the moment Kingdom was revealed to have a Beast Wars focus, about 2/3s of TF groups I'm in began complaining and even saying they would boycott the whole toyline, just because it was for them.
Kunoros Hound of Athreos They should be grateful that the brand is even still around because of the likes of Beast Wars and UT.
wow they sound like a bunch of arse holes
Biggest Blunder of the early 2010’s: The entire Aligned fiasco.
With a brand running for nearly three or four decades and lore spanning just as long as that, Hasbro decided it was time to create a new continuity which could have a consistent mythology. Thus the Aligned Continuity was forged with the intention to be the Transformers’ answer to the Ultimate Marvel Universe and even came with it’s own production bible.
The creation of Transformers: Prime was a good way to introduce the new continuity with the use of the the thirteen primes and ... If not for the fact that Hasbro decided to make High Moon’s War for Cybertron the introduction of this universe despite it having been made largely independent of Prime’s development and was mainly a big love letter to the G1 series back when it was cool to do so.
Then the cartoon came out and lore contradictions started appearing in the Aligned continuity. Fall of Cybertron which attempted to help tie WFC to Prime with nods and mentions from the cartoon but it also created a whole host of continuity problems that undermined the goals of the Aligned universe.
Such classics like why Starscream is on the Nemesis in Prime when he’s wanted in FOC, how Bumblebee loses his voice box in FOC vs Prime, two versions of Tantrum existing with one showing up in the Aligned novels as a Decepticon and the other appearing in a Prime magazine story as a Predacon clone without any mention made of the other Tantrum and so on were common sources of confusion for fans who attempted to make sense of it all.
In addition, Hasbro also attempted to craft an extended universe within it featuring their other properties like MASK which never materialises. Then Robot in Disguise came along and everyone gave up trying to make the Aligned Continuity into a consistent universe akin to the original Stars Wars EU before the Disney buyout.
What killed this continuity is due to the unwillingness of several groups of writers to cooperate with each other and would rather do their own thing, resulting in lore contradictions that would never happen under a story group’s watch. It wasn’t helped by the fact that Hasbro had once thought about absorbing the Transformers IDW universe into the Alignedverse while TF IDW Phase 2 was still very young after the launch of MTMTE and RID.
The real nail in the coffin on the Aligned Continuity came not in the form of the sequel series Robots in Disguise but with the production bible put into a drawer and left to collect dust.
TFWiki.net and other sources covers this topic much better than I can. The Aligned Continuity was a noble effort from Hasbro to create a consistent Transformers universe that non-fans can get into but they should have assembled a story group to guide its creation before attempting it.
Let’s see what they do with GI Joe
That was INCREDIBLY irritating. Honestly, I was down for the idea of having a unified continuity and hey if Prime was to be the one that started it I was down for it... but Hasbro REALLY leaked lubricant when it came to actually building the universe by just saying "Hey this thing that was once said to be just its own thing? Guess what, it now leads into this TV series!". Then RiD came along and it's just so aggravating.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249 that’s what you call “flavor of the month and to Hell with the Long-Game”
Honestly as for the G1 thing... I'm of two minds. For one thing, while I got into Transformers via stuff like UT where we got whole new designs every line? I'm just glad in general that we're getting really good versions of designs that are classic and work rather than basically hoping we get good designs next line. Plus I see it as being a good way of maybe giving this series some sense of uniformity that it hasn't quite had before.
But on the other... it's annoying for sure to see Hasbro do nothing BUT G1 for the past couple of years and in ways that are really frustrating. For instance, I love the hell out of Siege Optimus Prime and feel he's one of the best new G1 Primes we've gotten in so long... but then they announce Earthrise Optimus and I'm just left cursing. I then see that they've done a design for Armada Prime and I'm hyped... but it's now 2020 with NO SIGN of that figure with them just saying that they just "haven't found a place for it" and I'm thinking "For goodness sakes who cares, just RELEASE THE DAMN THING!". You can't find a place for it? Make a place for it. I mean we technically still have the Generations line in a way, just put it there and be done with it. Don't just sit on your hands because it's not G1.
That opening is so nostalgic.
I just pretend that AOE and TLK don't exist, makes life better.
Don't get me wrong, the first three films aren't spectacular but the designs are at least good.
I actually like AOE, but TLK is one of the worst movies I've ever seen
I and a couple of other people think that for SS, the fact that they're going with the old G1 movie is 1, for the anniversary and 2, to stall time until a new film comes out, since we know that in the next couple of years, we'll have a Beast Wars film and Bumblebee sequel to then have those character designs turned into SS figures. But of course, they're running out of ideas to do for SS since they've finished up M1, are starting to close gaps in RotF, the Decepticons for DotM are pretty much complete at this point, and what else from there.
Now yes, I know all of us are _begging_ for the rest of the movie dinobots and pretty much all of AoE and TLK. But the anniversary is approaching next year so they wanna cash in for that nostalgia (since they are more dependent on that s*it like Disney. ESPECIALLY Disney-)
Based on store listings we're still going to get live action figures in Studio Series, '86 is just going to be part of it, much like the G1 parts of Kingdom. But yeah overall I do agree about the constant rehashes of G1, personally I miss when Generations figures felt like UPDATES of G1 character designs and weren't all about cartoon accuracy, I think that's a big part of the staleness.
It’s so good to see you again Mr. Addict
Great list, it managed to remind me angers I had gotten over already.
And one thing you left out...SO MANY US ONLY EXCLUSIVES! Distribution in general, really, not to mention the higher cost for smaller toys, Cliffjumper is inexcusable, the toy itself is good...but it sets up a very ominous precedent, as not only it's gonna justify smaller toys, but it also brought back partsforming in a real bad way.
Well it also goes both ways I would call the tail end of the Dark of the Moon line a big fail since the final wave was only in Asia you had two Soundwaves who were both good, Que who was really good, and Leadfoot which screwed over the fans who wanted all of the Wreckers
The addict is back, looking forward to more and hope we get the replacement for tj tv
Well I’ll be damned, he finally did it after 3 years
Oh man. Here we good. It’s been a while, but I’m so glad it’s back.
The Aligned Continuity was great. Should’ve continued it.
I'll be honest I was waiting for a rant on the Cyberverse toy line being nothing but a line of gimmicks. Which is somewhat understandable as it is for kids (sort of like a transitionary step from the Rescue-Bots line to the mainline for children). But then they give an animated series that has been the best animated series I have seen since the end of Prime. The show gave me characters that I would love to get but the figures (most of which being more of a brick than a G1 combiner all to fill out a gimmick) are just so... meh.
(okay there was both the spark armor and collect-to-build sub-lines that had decent toys, but they were only for a handful of the characters in the show)
I forgot Botcon died.
I mean, Euro G1 and G2 get conflated all the time. Hell, The Ultimate Guide put the Euro G1 spotlight in the G2 chapter saying "while not technically released under the G2 banner, these figures are considered by fans to be G2 due to their aesthetic and design philosophy..." except I've never actually met a fan who thinks that, so I don't know where they keep getting this idea, but it's not exclusively a BotCon thing.
Okay I’m gonna argue number 2 a bit. I think the purpose of the shared mold for at least Moonracer and the other combiner fembots was a matter of uniformity for the Elita-1 combiner so she didn’t look super bulky in combined mode. That’s how I look at that point though, and I understand your reason for hating that concept.
I honestly think that Chromia should get like a sort of van or armored truck mode to go along with Ironhide. Don't know exactly why but I guess the two of them should just be the swolobots.
We missed you, plastic addict. I'm glad to see you back
I hope Ultra Class Cyberverse Bumblebee gets treated by the Plastic Addict. The spoiler on that toy isn't accurate to the show, they put it on there so that he looks even more like Armada Hot Shot, just to spite the Addict.
Man it's been a while since I saw this channel had forgot about it for a couple of years nice to see it again
As someone who grew up with Beast Wars, even I say It would be nice to see some Unicron Trilogy things, or even RiD 2001 things for sure. The problem with the former though might not be a lack of interest but potential confusion and maybe even shame. By confusion, I specifically mean the naming conventions contradicting G1, which is made worse by the fact G1 themes are so prevelant now in the main stream. For example: In Armada there is an Autobot who is orange with a grappling hook. Any G1 fan would call him "Grapple" but in Armada they call him "Smokescreen" which refers to in G1 an entirely different Autobot, who is blue / white and based on a car. In Energon, there is an attack boat decepticon called Mirage even though in G1 the name is for an autobot who looks like a classic race car. The naming system was very much like this all over the place largely because it was an effort to retain trademarks. However this would be confusion not only to G1 collectors but also anyone who might not remember -everyone- from the Unicron trilogy. I suspect Hasbro doesn't really care about the UT generation yet, but if they did this would be the only viable excuse they could have to not revisit it. The least they could do though is give us a properly realized Armada Optimus, as the PotP evolution gimmick would be perfectly executed in that theoretical toy without being overloaded by sound and auto-morph gimmicks. This is especially considering we got Armada Megatron in Combiner Wars, which would be a good companion piece.
Yay! Nice to see another Plastic Addict count down.
I feel really sad that I never got to go to any Botcons. Being in England, not knowing where or when they were until it was too late, and not having the money or opportunity, it meant I missed SO MANY things. Exclusives, talks, comics, mags etc, a bunch of stuff that only ever showed up at that con. As a kid I was hugely into Transformers, and it was only around 2015 where the franchise really lost me. Sad I won't ever get the chance to experience the con how it was :C
I personally like only Dark of the moon and the 07 film from Michael bay, cause those two at least had some semblance of a story but it is only my opinion
Am I the only person who likes Revenge of the Fallen? Really?
(Although honestly I think they should have stopped after Dark of the Moon. Age of Extinction was a huge disappointment to me, and as a result, I didn’t even watch The Last Knight.)
@@AS42100 that I agree to, I honestly think that the trilogy fits but the other didn’t make sense
Good to see the addict again. All of the channel content is good, but the addict is always fun.
Funny thing, Only the Victorion set and its repaint, didn't use the Moonracer mold for female limb bots. Even the upcoming God Neptune, whose female bot Scylla, is still a remold of Moonracer.
Having started with Armada I can understand if they don't want to do too much with intrustive gimmicks for minicons but personally I would like to see a little love for the Unicron trilogy. Like maybe an Armada Hot shot with good manuverability and posability, or an Armada Unicron or Megatron that is nice. I could see them using Minicons in sets like the teams that could make a weapon but perhaps use it as they either become a nice new attachment to a character or help form a weapon for them. Like if Hot Shot's could be either it's standard helicopter or with some transformation becomes the hilt of a sword or something. I want to see the equivalent of a Lightning Collection for Transformers. Sure you get the G1 but like half the line will br something not Gen 1. Like it's been so long since a White Dino Thunder that was cool came out. What with Transformers prevents them from mixing in to their constant nostalgia some awknowledgements of things after the original?
Honestly when considering the intrusive gimmicks, I'd say that should be even more of a reason for them to do UT stuff because honestly, I'd argue it was never the designs themselves that were bad, it was just that most of the toys had too much gimmickry that intruded on basic functions and a lot of the designs are things that people love so they should be jumping at the chance to give them proper redos.
Well they did do Universe 2.0 Hot Shot who used his Armada design but the gimmick being he still comes with Jolt, it is not bad. He has fully articulated shoulders for once
@@emberfist8347 He's good... but he still suffers. Jolt can't stand up at all, that figure I've heard had many issues with parts popping off and then there's the fact that unless you got the Henkei version of the mold? Because Hasbro decided to save some cash by cutting the missile launcher, it results in you being forced to resort to maneuvering the kibble a certain way just so that Hot Shot can move his arms.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249 Well he can still have complete articulation of his shoulders when you move the back kibble. The original Hot Shot inspired the meme Why My Shoulders Hurt because he could only move outward.
@@emberfist8347 I addressed that in the reply. Either way, he was a good figure... but he required fiddling to really figure out and when considering that the entire issue could've been solved if they just went with what Henkei went with? It's a little frustrating.
Hot take: There are too many Euro G1 fanboys with creative control in the comics and club stuff and that's how we got a G2 boxset that wasn't G2 and that horrible butchering of Star Saber while Thunderclash was made into a galactic famous hero. Not that I dislike Thunderclash, but it feels so backwards to prop him up while Star Saber is mangled into a bootleg space marine.
From the bottom of my heart, I just have to say in regards to number 9... *deep breath* THANK YOU! Oh my lord it was incredibly friggin' annoying being a Transformers fan in the wait for Bumblebee excited for the prospect of a reboot only to keep hearing the producer rattle off conflicting information every single time he was interviewed.
I’ve never seen someone so mad over numbers in the Thrilling 30. I didn’t even realize they had individual numbers.
I can’t believe that in a line called Power of the Primes, a line that brought back the combiner gimmick from Combiner Wars, didn’t give us a Nexus Prime. The line gave every voyager their own “Enigma of Combination”, the literal relic of Nexus Prime, but no Nexus Prime himself. What even.
@TheDragonDAFan I mean a real figure. Nexus Prime is a Combiner and the line was about combiners and he didn’t get a proper figure.
remember when Nexus was an exclusive split into 5 pieces and thus 5 years to build it
17:35 around there is when the truest part kicks in, I want RID and Beast Era stuff but nope, Heck I will settle for Unicron Trilogy revival even
Blunder of the Year: Making Earthrise TC, SW, Ironhide, Prowl, Ramjet and Dirge retail exclusives. Distributions were woeful on them for those outside of the US.
And you better hope your local retails are stocking them. For the longest time i would be stuck with wave 1 warming pegs and then nothing.
Kunoros Hound of Athreos which I’ll never see because all my Walmart’s are still stuck with the Netflix Megatron and Hotlink
I agree when you say that we get too much g1 I hope we only don’t get g1 for the next few years I’m getting sick of always g1 do a prime reboot a unicron trilogy reboot hasbro I would buy that
Its great to hear and see the Plastic Addict again :"D
Dude I've been sick of G1, I got into Transformers with UT and so far I still haven't seen those guys since 2006, I straight up stopped collecting after 2014 cause it's the same shit as usual
The Machinima series were done by a japanese animation company that had previously done Transformers Go. So they were used to doing 2D animation with occasional CGI. Probably they were picked because Takara hold quite a large stake in the company.
Maybe, but Hasbro didn't really give the budget to make good animation, especially from Tastunoko Production, who also has a long history with America, with their TV series being the first examples of dubbed anime being a success globally.
I think the way they should have handled the Primes is to have two forms. The Titanmaster as an aspect of them like a part of them that carries their power and the full ones which come in 2 sizes. And if they want to keep them mysterious have them have extra pieces they can swap around to give different forms with them being considered what they were seen as in the past.
I like the way your presentational style takes cues from professional wrestling promos.....and I do mean this as a compliment
Hooray for the return!
THE ADDICT HAS RETURNED
special bonus on what you were saying about all the female autobots getting 1 single mold, they heavily modified it to make Tentakill, but for Scylla, despite being a full repaint of Tentakill normally, has just all the Girl Parts^tm stuck back on
Fantastic video! I’d watch more of these! A lot more!
Was hoping you'd say The Line at the end, but regardless it's nice to have Plastic Addict back.
Speaking of top 10 blunders, although being just a top 10 list I’d make a personal honorable mention of Activision literally shutting down all TF multiplayer servers on several TF games.
I would make a personal one. The shift away form making Decepticons. The first movie the entire cast was made into toys. The second a few were left out but no big deal, but it seriously started being problem by the third movie where in addition to forcing Soundwave to the tail end, Crowbar and Hatchet never got full scale toys which sucked because they were a cool concept they had identical vehicle modes but distinct robot modes. Age of Extinction only Lockdown and Galvatron were released in the states, and only Stinger and Dispensor were made by Takara. The Last Knight I feel is the worse because they only decepticons were Megatron, Barricade, Nitro Zeus and Berserker. Mowhawk, Dreadbot, and worst of all Onslaught were left to dry despite being more memorable and having more screentime than Berserker who shelf-warmed worse than Mudflap. I was particularly peeved by Onslaught because he was great. A Decepticon tow truck, a Semi tow truck, and he reuses the design of Long Haul one of the my favorite Decepticons.
That's because the Activision's license to Transformers games expired. Hasbro, meanwhile, goes to make a game based on Cyberverse.
6:03 they hired Mark Hammill to be megatronus
Woah how did I miss this plastic addict episode? I dont recall ever seeing this one
And here I am holding out the smallest glimmer of hope for the return of TJ TV, or at least a way to watch the old episodes
for real, all I want is a good Armada Optimus
.........How in the flying frik can a producer not know what a reboot is?
I think we've hit a new benchmark for 'you have to much money'.
Travis Knight didn't have an easy time working on Bumblebee as he was pressured by Hasbro to make the movie be able to stand out as both a prequel and a possible reboot as they weren't sure what they were gonna do about the movie franchise. It's not that he had no idea what he wanted Bumblebee to be, it's that he was creatively constrained by Hasbro's indecision about the future of the movieverse.
I think the more important issue would be the one step changers. One could argue,"they are for little kids" so what, do kids deserve to play with trash poorly engineered bootleg quality toys? All the toys from 1984 till 2014 were considered toys for kids, and they did admirable,apparently it was a decision done after complaints about the movieverse toys being too problematic for kids. That is understandable, but kids have various degrees of attention span, the short tempered ones are the ones who get bores easily, they complain to their parents, and those parents (mostly the Karen stereotype) are the ones most vocal and obnoxious "this ia a bad product, my son is smart and couldn't figure out this trash" no lady it's just your son gets bored easily. Now all these 1step changers are clogging up store shelves with mediocre products that end up on clearance anyways, heck i can still find TLK one step changers in stores today.
I want a new Beast Wars cartoon. But with good writers.
How about some beast wars 2 and neo DVD releases first?
No, Beast Wars is finished, we still need updated toys of some characters; but instead of rehashing a old idea they should create new ideas.
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Welcome Back and more Plastic Addict Please!
Hell. if they're gonna rehash *something*, can we have new Car Robots or Micron Legends toys? No? has to be G1? okay...
I think the future is bright for us Transformers fans🤔.....For toys and movie's/cartoon's
My MP G1 Megatron has a couple breaks. Can still transform and pose, but have to remove the broken bits while transforming and putting them back in when done.
"New movies that make good money."
Adjusting for inflation, Bumblebee is the lowest earning film in Transformers history. Granted it's because it focused so hard on nostalgic pull that it forgot the plot entirely. Also not to mention it has the same faults in the designs and the humour that the other movies had. Too little vehicle parts present to make them good translations into toys, and low brow just scummy feeling humour that is very clear only one person was laughing at it. Charlie was good until the end of the movie where her character arc results in her jumping into water... to stop a robot from drowning.
The return of the king
Are you sick of G1 ? Yes and No.
Great vid TJ!
As a Beast Wars fan, I’m definitely getting a few of the Kingdom toys. Blackarachnia is the first one I’ve seen that actually looks GOOD in spider mode (Beast Machines not included).
Only shame is that we’re not getting Inferno. The OTHER Inferno. The fun Inferno that turns into a giant fire ant and screams gibberish in service of the colony and the Que- Er... Rrrrrroyalty!
Recent Cyberverse: Gimmick toys aim toward children we understand, but the implementation and execution of spring loaded gimmicks should have been phased out by now, that's one reason we don't have spring loaded weapons right? spring tension and misfiring.
They were cool in the late 70s on Japanese toys that were unlike anything we had ever seen before....
But yeah
OH MY GOD ITS TIME
Starscream disliked the video.
I can't lie. It was cool hearing MatPat as computron
In the Botcon 2010 set there was G2 Custom Class Sideswipe and Rapido