Tacos al Pastor | Rick Bayless Taco Manual

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  • You’ve seen the shawarma-like vertical spit for tacos al pastor: a beautiful cone of pork, charred with a gas or charcoal flame, and topped with a dripping pineapple…there’s really nothing that compares to it!
    Except, maybe this recipe. While nothing will ever replace the original, at home you can get pretty close to that classic al pastor flavor you love (and without all the equipment). See my recipe below!
    ~My recipe for Tacos al Pastor: www.rickbayles...
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    ~How to make perfect homemade tortillas: • Masienda x Rick Bayles...
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  • @paulblichmann2791
    @paulblichmann2791 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    After I watch Chef Bayless I get ads en Espanol for the rest of the weekend. Must be lots of Mexican viewers. Probably a good indicator.

    • @azgardener79
      @azgardener79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His recipes and tips are awesome.

    • @oldschoolfunkster1
      @oldschoolfunkster1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. He sticks to the authentic recipe ingredients, unlike other TH-cam cooks who create their own variations. Big difference between southwestern or tex-mex cuisine compared to the real Mexican style plates. Rick does it the right way. In his old tv show he even use to travel to the places where the food and ingredients originated from. This respected chef is the real deal when it comes to authentic Mexican food. And he makes it look sooo easy!
      I swear I can smell his cooking when I watch! Lol.

  • @sukabuttyahu2343
    @sukabuttyahu2343 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Mr. Bayless is seriously the OG of mexican cusine if u don't know now u do. I learned from his recipes over 20yrs ago.
    He always pernounces mexican words perfectly better than most on YT

    • @oldschoolfunkster1
      @oldschoolfunkster1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He's an excellent teacher too! Not only does he bring experience to the table, but he also gives us tidbits of history behind the ingredients he uses. Makes for an even BETTER cuisine experience!
      I learned many cooking tricks by watching my Mexican mama cook for us, but with Rick's footnotes, now I realize how savvy mama really was at cooking. She made EVERYTHING taste so good!!
      Thank you Rick for showing us how much you love Mexican food. It really is Feasts for Gods.

  • @selectooldave
    @selectooldave ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Rick is the best. Love going to his restaurants in Chicago. It's a real gift that he does what he does there.

  • @8Scorpions
    @8Scorpions ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Live the grilled pineapple it just adds a lil sweetness to a great spicy taco😋

  • @mcflynnful
    @mcflynnful 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m late to the ball game but love his videos. Breakfast lunch and dinner for days. Delicious!

  • @michaelvaladez6570
    @michaelvaladez6570 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Love Chef Rick Bayless tutorials because he is concise, direct and authentic recipes no over abundance of ego..keep up the great work greatly appreciated 🙏.

    • @michaelmcgee4209
      @michaelmcgee4209 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like his videos as well....I guess hos brother skip got the ego...I like watching him too though.

    • @Handobolo
      @Handobolo ปีที่แล้ว

      Over abundance of no flavor

  • @51rwyatt
    @51rwyatt ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I went with 3 friends to El Huequito in Mexico City recently and we asked for a few tacos per person and ended up with 8 per person (!). Best error ever.

  • @MoltenSon
    @MoltenSon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ricks videos are such perfect bedtime stories

  • @donaldjabibski4223
    @donaldjabibski4223 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just made this up in Lake Forest, Rick. Didnt get the Achiote but got everything else, the smell on the marinade was so strong during cooking I thought this was going to be inedible. Get it on a warm tortilla with diced white onion and your tomatillo salsa, i put shredded mexican blend cheese because im in the midwest - and it was heaven. Tender meet, the flavor was bright and delicious without being overpowering as I feared during cooking. Wonderful charred bits to go along with bursts of sweetness from the grilled pineapple - just amazing.

  • @armandolorian2120
    @armandolorian2120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Bayless bros. Are complete opposites. I prefer this one.

  • @dapperdan2658
    @dapperdan2658 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The great thing about him is he actually SHOWS you the alternatives (ancho powder, pork steaks) rather than just talking about them.

  • @richardogrady-gk3cu
    @richardogrady-gk3cu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since day one when I saw Rick Bayless I'm a total fan

  • @ohmygoshez
    @ohmygoshez ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am delighted by the home phone in the background. That was cherry on top of this episode! Love this series!

  • @papasy3748
    @papasy3748 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the addition of pineapple to the adobo is a power move, not only does it lend flavor, but the bromelain enzyme in it is a great tenderizer as well. This is the best cooking channel on the 'Tube, cheers Chef!

    • @greghansmann7659
      @greghansmann7659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His series on Prime is awesome. So many recipes as well as following him all over Mexico sampling the local foods!

  • @pixelcultmedia4252
    @pixelcultmedia4252 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm so stoked that your recipe is close to the one I researched and made. I think the only difference was that I use some Coca-Cola in the rehydrating liquid for the chiles. I read that some taquerias in Baja do that.
    One purchasing tip is that you can frequently find thin-cut pork shoulder in Asian markets. It's typically prepared for Shabu Shabu, but it works great for tacos and its thinness gives more surface area for marinade and caramelization.

  • @foechicken8023
    @foechicken8023 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rick, I have been watching since I was a young woman. It has been at least 20 years.

  • @billbubnis3128
    @billbubnis3128 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    First of all, YUM! Second of all, thank you for leaving the little "mistakes" in like forgetting the garlic, we all do it. Its nice not to watch something always sooo polished and perfect. We home cooks make the same faux pas as well. The tip about the papertowel under the cutting board is nice too! Love your food ideas!

    • @paulblichmann2791
      @paulblichmann2791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And all the corner-cutting options. HE KNOWS we're all going to cheat and cut corners.

  • @ennabetancourtsingh.5693
    @ennabetancourtsingh.5693 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Me encanta tu canal

  • @robertjasso6673
    @robertjasso6673 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rick Bayless is the real deal. I once saw him eating breakfast at El Cardenal in the centro Historico with my friend Victor , who by the way is from Chicago too. What a perfect scenario that was !

  • @alalesc3796
    @alalesc3796 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mexican food is awesome!

  • @armuk
    @armuk ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Rick - please do a Taco Manual video for Birria Tacos (& accompanying consomme) that is so popular nowadays. Would be a godsend & greatly appreciated

    • @daphnepearce9411
      @daphnepearce9411 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've made Birria de Res con consomme so many times, in fact I'm making them next week(slow cooker). They are one of my favorite tacos....however I bet Rick can show us some chefy magic to make them absolutely out standing. :-)

    • @TeamTimeRiders
      @TeamTimeRiders ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If he did birria he’d be the real *drip* Bayless

  • @berribella1
    @berribella1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thankyou for showing us both ways of preparation! best. tacos. ever!!!

  • @need4turbo60
    @need4turbo60 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always love how authentic you do Mexican food. I am so glad you have this channel. I would love to cook with you some day

  • @glenneric1
    @glenneric1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had tacos with my pastor once. It was lovely.

  • @armuk
    @armuk ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic as usual, thank you Rick. These videos are so helpful

  • @davidnunez582
    @davidnunez582 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Best chef best recipes i learned alot from him

    • @richj011
      @richj011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot

  • @irenehuereca1078
    @irenehuereca1078 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mmmmmm que rico taco 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

    • @frankuvlkan
      @frankuvlkan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Irene I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹

  • @shiroumxm2052
    @shiroumxm2052 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Se ven espectaculares! se me hizo agua el boca jajaj

  • @stanmoffitt9297
    @stanmoffitt9297 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just made them yesterday and they are good but I’m going to change up my recipe to Chef Ricks. Thank You for sharing Chef! I subscribed and will follow you! Thanks again.

  • @Bagooda
    @Bagooda ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Chef! Looks like I've modified my next weeks menu.

  • @ellenspn
    @ellenspn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trompo King!!! I’m going to do it on my smoker

  • @hellbenderdesign
    @hellbenderdesign ปีที่แล้ว

    Al Pastor is my litmus test for Mexican restaurants. If it's great, everything is great.

  • @JohnnyDaines
    @JohnnyDaines ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh yes, the video I’ve been waiting for. Can’t wait to try these this week. As always, thanks chef!

  • @granolitayyo
    @granolitayyo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yummy! Thank you so much for sharing los tacos al pastor! 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🌮🌮🌮🌮😋❤👌🙏🏼

  • @undertwotimes
    @undertwotimes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite taco, can't wait to try this recipe thanks!

  • @laina6219
    @laina6219 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thnk U, Thnk U, Thnk U...my fav taco's past 35-40 yrs. your recipe is a bit different but is my fav

  • @jamescapps4553
    @jamescapps4553 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I never just throw away the core from a pineapple I'm cutting up. Once I've quartered the pineapple i cut off the core pieces and chew on them while prepping the rest of the pineapple. "Waste not, want not".

  • @mrtime49
    @mrtime49 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very well done video, thanks Rick. Would the Ancho chiles roast well in an air fryer?

  • @Ianuarius
    @Ianuarius ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quick note: I use a piece of rug pad to hold my cutting board in place.
    Good things about it are...
    1. you can cut it to exactly the same size as the board
    2. it doesn't take an extra step to take a piece of paper and moisten it
    3. it doesn't waste paper
    4. since it's rubber/plastic, it's easy to clean

  • @tomcorso2358
    @tomcorso2358 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey Rick - I have followed all your youtube videos : very educational like your sense of humor : I know that your restaurant is in Chicago I am from Nw Indiana

  • @marisaevans9487
    @marisaevans9487 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is he best!!!

  • @jenniferspaulding5652
    @jenniferspaulding5652 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was wondering if you could make a video on how to pick out a good papaya, Mango, and pineapple. Especially, papaya. I buy them, and think they're ripe, but the end up so bitter. What am I missing? I would love your advice. I always look forward to traveling to Mexico, and the Caribbean for the ripe fruits. Thank you!
    Jenn.

  • @ridesliknacho4984
    @ridesliknacho4984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tacos al pastor are so good! Really wish I could find somewhere that made em on a vertical spit like in Mexico though.

  • @TheChefmike66
    @TheChefmike66 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes me hungry, thank you chef!

  • @FuccoTheClown
    @FuccoTheClown ปีที่แล้ว +2

    damn you rick! 🤣 looks amazing!! YUMMM

  • @mf8779
    @mf8779 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for everything ~ !
    Always great instruction, experience watching your videos..
    Is that a maple your using for your counter - the one in which your prepping ?

  • @msk4795
    @msk4795 ปีที่แล้ว

    So jealous! Lol. Thank you for sharing your work.

  • @khanhlynguyen3197
    @khanhlynguyen3197 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks amazing. Thank you. I'll try it.

    • @frankuvlkan
      @frankuvlkan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Khanhly I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹

  • @harryclark8611
    @harryclark8611 หลายเดือนก่อน

    En Rick, Confiamos

  • @egomez234
    @egomez234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you chef!

  • @JohnDoe-xu2vx
    @JohnDoe-xu2vx ปีที่แล้ว

    Boy, thats a sharp knife

  • @kathyhepler382
    @kathyhepler382 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks so good yumm!!!!

  • @LatinGhost916
    @LatinGhost916 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just discovered that you had a show back in the early 2000s

  • @Slash687
    @Slash687 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking good Skip!

  • @ohasia
    @ohasia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you do with the other half of the marinade that was set aside?

  • @cledesma135
    @cledesma135 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tijuana has the best pastor tacos in the world.

  • @alexmc6568
    @alexmc6568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What brand blender is that Rick…..asking from Europe so it’s not familiar…..great recipe, franchise in Europe soon ?

  • @keithatkinson7649
    @keithatkinson7649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rick,greetings from the UK. Not sure if you'll read this or not, but would it be OK to let the pork sit in the marinade overnight in the fridge? I'm thinking of using pork loin steaks this way and cooking them over live fire...

    • @frankuvlkan
      @frankuvlkan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Keith I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹

    • @justamags
      @justamags 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obviously I'm not Rick, but I've made lots of tacos al pastor! And yes, I marinate overnight! Cheers!

  • @Bagooda
    @Bagooda ปีที่แล้ว

    Chef Rick, would you consider using some mesquite when grilling the pork?

  • @mikeneary4638
    @mikeneary4638 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this, only comment is . . . hot tap water? Advise against that. Generally has more metals that you'd like. Just warm up tap water.

  • @easein
    @easein ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. My Al Pastor recreations have been mediocre at best, after falling in love with this dish years ago by someone who knew what they were doing. Peace

  • @kajem575
    @kajem575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yeah!

  • @ricardonuno100
    @ricardonuno100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Lime????

  • @ABannerSoftly
    @ABannerSoftly ปีที่แล้ว

    yum

  • @steveparadox1
    @steveparadox1 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you cooking outside? Isn't the weather super cold in Chicago?!?!

  • @rezathenightfly
    @rezathenightfly ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rick. Tangentially speaking, may I please ask as to what is the brand / model of your watch that you're wearing in this video? Thank you in advance.

    • @Zoltarswim
      @Zoltarswim ปีที่แล้ว

      Longines Dolcevita? Nope, the internet tells me it's a Tiffany & CO, Grand

  • @Lulis56
    @Lulis56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did I miss it? How long did you marinate the pork with the adobo sauce?

    • @frankuvlkan
      @frankuvlkan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lulis I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹

  • @GregNickoloff
    @GregNickoloff ปีที่แล้ว

    Tacos prove that God loves us.

  • @blancanavarro2546
    @blancanavarro2546 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

  • @jgillig
    @jgillig 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m wondering if that adobo marinade could be used as an injector.? What do you all think?

  • @curtisdavidwilliams
    @curtisdavidwilliams ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I missed it, but why did you save that cup of marinade before adding in the achiote? Is it used for another preparation?

  • @travelingfool9096
    @travelingfool9096 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I watch this when im hungry?

  • @KenHollowayshow
    @KenHollowayshow ปีที่แล้ว

    These look great, but I'm curious why you don't include guajillo chiles?

  • @donalddluckerii3147
    @donalddluckerii3147 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned that oil sprayer you're using. Where do you get

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    Does adding the fresh pineapple affect the texture of the meat . I have added fresh pineapple in the past and have had both good and bad experiences.

    • @kurtpenner2362
      @kurtpenner2362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me the pineapple or pineapple juice breaks down the meat surface into a gross mealy texture. This gets worse the longer it sits in the marinade. I presume this is from the bromelain enzyme in the juice. However, if I boil the juice, or the entire marinade before using it, this does not occur. I presume the enzyme denatures and deactivates in the heat. But all the yummy pineapple juice flavour remains. Works for me.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kurtpenner2362 I agree. Not a good texture at all!

    • @kurtpenner2362
      @kurtpenner2362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ Some people use canned pineapples and canned pineapple juice. I think this would avoid the problem, since they cans are heated up in the canning process, deactivating the enzyme. But fresh is better IF you can get it and IF you know about this enzyme issue.

  • @TuleeMaster
    @TuleeMaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this Skip Bayless’ brother?

  • @gabrieltanase9482
    @gabrieltanase9482 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chef Bayless lost allot of weight, I Hope his health is in excellent condition.

  • @satyrsak
    @satyrsak ปีที่แล้ว

    Would toasting the anchor powder help bring out more of its flavor?

    • @frankuvlkan
      @frankuvlkan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Stephen I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹

  • @christineb8148
    @christineb8148 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this be the kind of adobo that you could can chipotle chiles in?

    • @frankuvlkan
      @frankuvlkan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Christine I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹

  • @ironworkerjoewilliams1544
    @ironworkerjoewilliams1544 ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife is allergic to pineapple what could I use to sub? Or just leave it out ?

  • @sponge81235
    @sponge81235 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you use thinly sliced pork tenderloin?

    • @Jake-dx1mf
      @Jake-dx1mf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. But, the lower fat content of pork tenderloin will result in a dry final product.

  • @SD-mc4mq
    @SD-mc4mq ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know if this al pastor marinade can be frozen for later use, or how long the fridge life is?

  • @davidnunez582
    @davidnunez582 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting for u new book

  • @sittingstill3578
    @sittingstill3578 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content Rick but TH-cam’s recent move to re-encode all 1080p movies to a much a low bit rate makes them so gritty like a low quality 480p version. The “Premium High Bit Rate” is just the old 1080p version behind a paywall.

  • @bitslammer
    @bitslammer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't have the ingredients on hand, but I know a great local place and it's Friday. Problem solved because after watching this nothing else was going to hit the mark.

  • @lilianadominguez4733
    @lilianadominguez4733 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😘😘

  • @chaztech9824
    @chaztech9824 ปีที่แล้ว

    gj rb come to the cape and make me some :D

  • @TechTails
    @TechTails ปีที่แล้ว

    Beef barbacoa tamarind pasilla torta please

  • @irenehuereca1078
    @irenehuereca1078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

  • @iamtheteapot7405
    @iamtheteapot7405 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this Skip's brother?

  • @tapatiasanchez6122
    @tapatiasanchez6122 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤤🤤🤤😋😋😋

  • @Rubio_Eric
    @Rubio_Eric ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found out Skip Bayless is his brother!😲

  • @LordThree
    @LordThree ปีที่แล้ว

    Why dump the seeds?

    • @justamags
      @justamags 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It can leave a bitter taste in the end product.

  • @savincicares
    @savincicares 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is he related to skip bayless ?

  • @timothypeters7748
    @timothypeters7748 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:21 I tore my chile ancho once and ended up in the emergency room.

    • @justamags
      @justamags 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMAO 🤣😂

  • @leedoss6905
    @leedoss6905 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's chili powder and there's chilie powder.
    And the spelling is all over the map.
    Some people refer to use chili as the dish and chilie as the pepper.
    There's even a two L version such as chilli and chillies.
    Then we move on towards paprika and its many varieties.
    Some sweet and some hot and some even smoked like a chipotle.

  • @connorhaskell8946
    @connorhaskell8946 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skip vs Rick

  • @Still-Learning
    @Still-Learning ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is he related to Skip Bayless?

    • @MickeyloverMelvin
      @MickeyloverMelvin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No he skip that brother

    • @TDGman2012
      @TDGman2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. They are brothers.

    • @Still-Learning
      @Still-Learning ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TDGman2012 👍🏾

    • @daphnepearce9411
      @daphnepearce9411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes

    • @Still-Learning
      @Still-Learning ปีที่แล้ว

      @daphnepearce9411
      Thanks for the 411.
      I thought they looked ansoundednd alike, but I wasn't sure if they were actually related.
      Interesting.

  • @Eduardomd54
    @Eduardomd54 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Rick (years of admiring you , making and understanding the Mexican cuisine . ) I am Mexican , an MD, and Like to cook. So I am just an cooking aficionado . I know we use a lot of "vegetable" oil in mexican cooking, but to my present knowledge, is the worst oil we can eat as humans, it is actually poisonous ! And it is driving a lot of cronic diseases. In my house we stop using it. I will make your recipe of tacos al Pastor, but I will be using lard, and in other recipes , when feasible; beef talow, butter, olive oil, avocado oil.

    • @joshfoss7407
      @joshfoss7407 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can use avocado oil interchangeably with vegetable oil.

  • @jormasoderberg2803
    @jormasoderberg2803 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still shook this is Skip Bayless's brother. Just goes to show, some of your kids may be cool and some of your kids may suck