The worst part is when you realize the only reason Nox killed so many people so indiscriminately is because he genuinely thought he'd go back in time and all that would be undone, their deaths quite literally didn't matter because had he succeeded wouldn't have even happened. The tear Nox sheds may not be over just his family, but over the thousands of lives he only now realized he irreversibly destroyed.
Someone described it very well to me. Have you ever played a video game that involved choice, chose all the "Evil" options, heard the NPCs beg you, curse you and ask "why?" after you've killed them? But, it doesn't matter, because their just audio recordings of actors and when you reboot the game, they're right back to normal, like nothing happened. But imagine it didn't reboot. Imagine everyone in that game was real, and you caused them unbelievable pain, thinking nothing you did would have any lasting consequence. I think in that moment when Nox looks at all the people he's hurt and can't undo what he's done, is the only time he was glad his family wasn't alive, so they didn't have to see the monster he turned himself into.
Yeah, he knew people saw him as a monster but it didn't matter because it was all Temporary, he was going to fix everything. But when it became Permanent, imagine the weight of that realization.
Nox is the perfect antagonist, there's really nothing about this characters that isn't great, his voice, his design, his story, his motivations, the way he moves and his ending, what a character.
I really hope he is alive and comes back into the series somehow. I've seen season 3, so I know what's what there. But as his death is not fully confirmed in the tv series there's a chance he can come back.
@@ignisking759 No, it's 100% sure Nox is dead. He killed himself for not supporting the culpability of all his acts and ended in dust on his wife and children grave.
Imagine my shock when I asked my french teacher why "Adieux" was not a common "goodbye" only for her to say, Oh you only say that when you are never going to see the person again. My jaw dropped
yep it's a contraction of 2 words "a" and "dieu" which are "at" and "god", in context it means "next time we'll talk it'll be in the afterlife" pretty much
@@Mr.Crow66 Yes, "adieux" just means "farewell". It doesn't have a special connotation like the OP implies, or like his teacher implied. It's all about context. Both the words goodbye and farewell can also be used to give a final goodbye speech, and have it be heavy with proper context.
I'll always come back to this as one of the best ways to resolve a climax. The villain "wins" only to realize not only has he not won, but lost everything due to the consequences of his own actions and pride. I was blown away by how well-written it was. One of the most satisfying conclusions to a story I have had the pleasure of experiencing. Second only to the conclusions of Code Geauss and Inception. Even then, it's pretty darn close.
the irony is when Hugo first grabbed the cube, during the final battle he accidentally activated the intended time warp and used up all the power to do so. Nox was to wrapped up in their battle to notice, when he drained Yugo he sent them back. Didn't even technically fail, just didn't notice it had worked.
The biggest bite on a story perspective was the fact that the writers had the balls to gives us hope to revive Persadal, only to not have the time jump go back far enough to spar him. Total big balls and I love the writers for it.
What is absolutely perfect is that in the special episode dedicated to Nox's backstory, he says "I'll soon be as powerful as the Xelor god, even more powerful!" and he technically became more powerful. Even the god xelor can't go back in time or he just went back in time 1 minute so Nox technically did better than a god going back 20 minutes
If I remember is not that the god xelor can't go back in time, but that going back in time destroys the fabric of time, so why would the god of time intentionally damage time, it would be like the god Sadida burning forests. If I remember there are missions in the dofus game about time paradoxes that Nox created because he fucked up the xelor clock by going back in time or something like that, I don't remember
If I remember well, a later vilain (of the psychopath mad scientist sort) said that Nox didn't travel back 20min in time. He rewinded the entire universe 20min back in time. Similar end result but much more impressive.
A shame the uploader didn't include the end of the credits, where it shows nox had used the last of his energy to blink to his family's grave. There time finally caught up to him and in an instant his body decayed to mere ash. There stood 3 grave stones, two children, one adult. Forver that mask would lay with the entombed family marking the passing of the Nox, a father finally returned home.
That's what sets Nox apart from most villains, and most villain stories for that matter. A brave and ambitious writing decision, but it really paid off imo.
also, he is one of the few vilain with a understandable motif. Not especially forgivibable but one you could relate to. He is not some prick who wants more power, to rule over the kingdom or just be evil. He wants to get his family back and he is convinced that if he succeed, all his wrong deeds will never have existed. This show is the proof that in a good story, the vilain need as much caracter development than the actual hero.
Another villain like that is Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda. He’s actually very similar to Nox in that their villain quests were both doomed to fail from the very beginning.
@@goblintributemaker2539 Tail Lung? Why? As far as I'm concerned, his history goes like this: - He's adopted by Shifu and trained to become the next Dragon Warrior - Oogway sees darkness within him and declares he won't be the DW - Tai Lung feels betrayed and becomes obsessed with the secret of the DW, and starts a rampage, proving that Oogway was right - He is captured and held in prison - Po is declared the Dragon Warrior and shortly after Tai Lung escapes - He fights Po and finally manages to get his hands on the scroll, only to discover that the only secret is who you are on the inside - Mad with the revelation, he fights with Po again, gets defeated and banished Sure, they both created their own downfall and "managed" to get what they wanted only to discover it's not what they needed. But while Nox commited crimes to undo his mistakes, Tai Lung did that to get revenge and obtain what he thought was rightfully his. Same principle but on opposite directions.
Tai Lung didn’t want revenge though. He just wanted the Dragon Scroll so he could believe in himself. Him and Nox are different in many ways but I think they have a lot of similarities
I don't know what's worst, the agony of failing in his masterplan, and realizing he will never see his family again, or the realization that all that destruction and decimation of innocent lives led to nothing but 20 minutes worth of time.... This moment is so fucked up in so many ways, that i don't know if i should feel happy he failed, or sad he failed. Goddam cube and it's corruptive nature....
sgauden02 technically he did succeed. As I stated, the process is simply inefficient. With the seemingly infinite power of the dragons, had grugalo known that time travel would not in fact destroy the world, he may have chosen to power the cube rather than allow nox to continue his rampage.
sgauden02 technically he only set it out to travel back in time. meeting his family was secondary. Only after he found out how inefficient the process was did he finally conclude how futile this struggle was.
Well, he thought he could rewind time so it was ok. And he has his reasons, unlike other vilains who only kill because they feel better or think it's good.
***** When I say nice, I don't mean he's kind, but that he has a reasonable background, that allows us to understand why he is doing this. Not like some DBZ vilains who kill because it's fun. lol
the point is not that he is "morally" good but that he is well made as a character. He had reasons for his insanity and what he wanted to achieve. it would have actually been a happier ending if he had, but it didn't work out and he was left with failure and two centuries worth of sin he couldnt make up for.
@@mrhippo3610 No it didn't. He's killed countless people up to that point, sure it undid 20 minutes of our main characters dying, but the years of Nox killing, destroying nature for Wakfu all remain permanent.
@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337 When Nox was still fighting Yugo they were teleported to a stormy location in which Yugo noticed Ogrest, the same one which caused the flooding that killed Nox’s family. My theory is that they went back in time to the point where Nox’s family was still alive
Goddamn is this ending fantastic, as is Nox as a whole. I mean, firstly, he's a good guy. He may be an antagonist, but his intentions were all truly positive. He believed, without a shadow of a doubt, that if he had succeeded, then all of his wrongs would have been reversed. Despite all the evil he had done, he took no joy in his actions. Even his own laughter was more of a by-product of his insanity and corrupted mind, not actual joy. And yet, despite trying so, so hard for so, so long, in the end, what does he get? 20 minutes. Over 200 years of struggle and pain and suffering, and he doesn't even get enough time to watch a single episode of Wakfu. And he realize, in the end, that all the awful things he had done were permanent. Not only did he destroy his family, but he did the same thing to countless others in his pursuit of righting his wrongs, and now, there's absolutely nothing he can do about it. I think one of the saddest parts to me is when the king said it was time for Nox to "pay for (his) crimes". I think Nox knows this, and that he perfectly understands that he deserves to suffer for what happened. Maybe, he'd even be willing to accept any punishment that was given to him, but he knows his time has run out. He knows that, without a steady supply of Wakfu, and without the power of the Eliacube, he will only survive for a few more moments, unable to truly atone for his sins. So, what does he do with those last few moments? He teleports to the graves of his wife and children, and fades away, together with them at last. It's funny how, if the Eliacube DID work the way he believed it would, then Wakfu would have been a show where the best possible outcome for everyone could have only happened if the villain of the show had won. At least, we can take some comfort in the fact that, in the Wakfu afterlife, Noximilien is finally back together with his family again, truly happy for the first time in over 200 years.
I wouldn't say he was a good or a bad guy, just a man who had made a mistake he couldn't live with. The crimes he committed didn't matter to him because if he succeeded they would never have happened and if he failed then the world would end, he didn't care if the world ended since his ended when he found out his family died due to him being too focused with the Eliacube. He succeeded in his goal of traveling back in time but failed to go back far enough, it was beyond the worst outcome for him. No longer could he rationalize his crimes, undo his mistakes. It was a fool's quest and he was once more paying the price for his blindness. So he did what he should have done over 200 years ago, spend precious time with his family. I think the lesson we should take from Nox is, it's not about what you want to achieve or what mistakes you make, it's about spending the small amount of time we have with those we love.
@@Athkore Well he was a good guy, since the mistake he made was because he tried to earn more money so that his family wouldn't have to live in poverty, everything he was ever shown to do was to make his family happy.
For me the interesting part is everyone that warned him that it was impossible was wrong. He really did go back in time it was just the scale that was wrong.
Actually, there was a chance he did succeed, only to undo his own work by mistake. Remember how he and our favorite shorty "teleported" to where Ogrest was throwing a fit? Usually when they throw a fit like that, the world floods. However, the world was very much not flooded, and it didn't make an extremely large amount of sense for the machine to just teleport when it was designed to go back in time. That means he might of gone back in time with the energy 200 years, not realizing it, then went back forward for 200 years via undoing everything, and only managing to get back 20 minutes afterward.
I just realized...Yugo can see the wakfu/life force of people. What happens if Yugo saw Nox's wakfu rapidly vanishing so he immediately realized Nox was going to die. That's why he stopped everyone , he knew Nox gave up , he was about to die, so he lets Nox go so he can spend his last SECONDS of life wherever he decides to, arresting Nox wouldn't matter.
He didn’t need the Wakfu vision to see that Nox was on the brink He knows that Nox wants to go back in time for a personal reason, he heard his speeches on his actions not mattering because he will simply rewind time, he saw Nox shed a tear of genuine regret. He knew there was nothing left for Nox and let him go. In that moment, he felt pity for the Xelor, a man corrupted by obsession. He never forgets the lessons he learned from Nox either. He continues to think of Nox even later into the story when considering the risk of power. He learned that power corrupts people, leading to terrible catastrophes. With the more villains he faces, the more he starts to reaffirm this belief, that power brings corruption, an ideal that began with Nox. Nox’s presence influencing Yugo to such a degree is an impressive feat for the writer to have accomplished.
I think the Morale of this show is that Time is precious and should not be wasted. Many of the antognists and problems in the show revolved around people stuck in the past and/or unwilling to go into the future!
He lost everything, NOT because he was negligent. It was because that EFFING cube corrupted him. Noximillian was a honest, cultural, and magnificent human, a great father and husband. He wanted to give more to his family and the cube use that in it's favor destroying his mind, and corrupting both his body and soul. Upon his family death he had 1 second of sanity, within a crushing world of despair and madness that led him to the destruction and erradication of nations, to feed, the very wich that corrupted him in the first place. He never stood a chance... It's like the One Ring of Power.
Quinn Fletcher Do you understand the level of corruption, he already had to withstand before breaking? And this all before his family even left. The moment that cube fell upon his hands, he lost, and you can say "He had a choice", but the level of control of the cube, proved to be bigger then him. He was once a great man, that got broken, do NOT think you had better chances then him.
Season 1 spoilers: A small detail I just noticed: Nox uses the same word, "adieu", or farewell, that he uses to taunt Grougaloragron shortly before their last battle. In both cases, the word choice implies a permanent departure, and foreshadows Nox's death at the end of Season 1.
In addition, while "Adieu" does mean farewell, it's to a more extreme extent. "Adieu" is for someone you'll never see again, hence why it's not frequently used and is used during dramatic and/or sad moments. Basically, for french speakers, as soon as Nox used "Adieu", we knew it meant his death was coming. "Adieu" wasn't IMPLYING, it was literally meaning "goodbye forever". Just a small addition from a french native speaker :)
@@slvr_grmm7769 i am no linguist but in French "adieu" is the contraction of two other French word "à" - "to/until", "dieu"-"god", "adieu" literals meaning, "we shall see again infront of god"
Don't forget the fact that, if he succeeded, he could have reversed all of the damage that he had done. He truly did believe that he was doing the right thing, which only makes this scene sadder and darker.
The whole thing gets even worse when you realise that the 20 minute jumps back in time reversed the actual jump in time that happened during his fight with Yugo, which brought him back just before when the monster killed his family on the island. But he was so focused he didn't realise it, essentially making the same mistake he did 200 years ago with his research of the cube. Now, he is truly alone.
it's a theory but it's wrong unfortunately, they just teleported as Eliatrops power is space manipulation and not time (in direct opposition with Xelors)
@@healthyseal I'll be sincere with you, I always though the Cube did the jump in time and Yugo did the jump in space, then, the Cube absorbed some energy from the fight between Yugo and Nox and jumped back just enough to undo most of the initial jump. Was it confirmed that it's just a theory? Or are we left mostly wondering?
@@Kromosios mind you the cube wasn't even supposed to go back in time, what nox did was a miracle, he successfully did what the xelor god couldn't do during eternity. It would have been impossible for the cube to just jump back 200years in a fraction of second.
Really shows that the best villain in fictions are the ones using bad means to good ends... Because in the end, very little separates them from the heroes. Should have Nox indeed succeeded, all his evil done for 200 years would effectively be gone forever.
Which, like, he “shouldn’t” get because the ends would justify the means (doing terrible things because they would not matter and ultimately ideally result in them never happening), but at the same time, spits in the face of what his effort was meant for. He could have rewritten history itself had he succeeded, and all he wanted was to be with his family.
@@alecLogan oh yeah no arguing he was a complete monster, that even considered killing the family dog just for a little bit more energy. That, and if he won and his plan succeeded, I doubt he would have been able to live with his family again. He is far too removed from who his wife fell in love with. Still for the viewer to empathise with him, as that character asks the question "how far would you go to save your family"
To me this shows how valuable time is, 20 minutes was not enough to return nox to his family, but it was enough to save the tree of live and the sadida’s. To me the lesson is use your time wisely.
This made me cry. He loves his family so much that he spent 200 years to gather wakfu and rewind time to be with his family again. It didn't work at the end. What really made me cry is him tearing up probably because he didn't get to be with his family again and realizes the damage he had cause. Man, What a great antagonist. The perfect antagonist in fact. The only one that legit made me cry out of symphaty.
I watched this as a kid and as a teen and im so glad people loved this as much as I have and keep coming back to it too, this show was deeply understated at least where I lived.
I think that what makes Nox into probably the best villain of Wakfu is the fact that almost anyone who has a loved one that died for one reason or another can see him/herself in Nox' place. Seriously- ask yourself this- if you thought that you could bring your dead family or friends back...wouldn't you be ready to tear the world apart to bring them back?
Indeed. "There isn't a single boy born who wouldn't tear the world apart to find his mother." - Doctor Who, 2005 I imagine Nox could relate to that quote
That's a tough one for sure...but no. Not that the decision wouldn't horribly rend my heart, but I'd think my loved ones would prefer I not destroy the world for their sake.
I just realized something. The cube purposely sent him back 20 minutes to give him a false sense of hope. If he had failed, as he said himself, he wouldn’t have cared. If he succeeded, everything would be reversed. So the cube purposefully rewinded 20 minutes so that it would hit him with the harsh reality that over 200 years of destruction had amounted to rewinding time 20 minutes. Letting him know he never would have succeeded, never stood a chance, and right before he disappeared too. Makes me wonder if the cube actually had the potential to rewind it further.
Its possible. The cube didnt come with a manual after all and comes from a race that had figured out space travel; that and the cube was designed for people that, as a whole specie, have powers very different from anything he can do. Its very possible Nox just didnt know how to use the cube to its full potential, or would have been unable to do so no matter how long he studied it because he isnt an eliotrope (hell, Yugo managed to drain energy from the cube after literally just seeing it for the first time, something that took many years for Nox). He had to blunder his way to where he was, without having that natural connection to the cube.
There was a detail I remember learning about but only remember vaguely now, but during the fight scene where they seemingly saw the monster that killed his family in the future, was actually in the past. They did go back to the past, didn't realize because they were all too enthralled in the Battle, and then accidentally returned to the present - off by 20 minutes.
@@thorveim1174 If I recall the Eliacube was actually made from the "heart" of a machine creature, specifically the race that would drive the Eliatropes and dragons off their homeworld and would start hunting them, that's actually what set off the war, the machines were pissed off at Quilby did to one of them. So it's possible the cube does have some level of consciousness, or one could have formed over time/been installed when it was created.
dident the cube come from some dubious entity or or creatures that more or lees 'stole' a lot of the magic on the sly...setting him up to fail as a scape goat or something like that ?
I mean, not apparently, it would have and was happier. If Nox's plan succeeded completely, all of his evil acts would have not happened. And by backstabbing Yugo and rewinding 20 minutes, Nox undid his literal genocide of an entire race; had Yugo won, the Sadidas would have remained exterminated.
You gotta feel sorry for Nox a bit here his life was once perfect he had a family and a job as a clockmaker then he found the Eliacube he went crazy trying to understand it then one day it drove him nuts, His family left him and was killed by the chaos caused by Ogrest. he Vowed to bring them back whatever the cost only to fail in the end to die 200 years later at the grave of his family.
This is one of the best fantasy interactions I can remember in my life. I've modeled a few D&D conflicts on this and other instances of Wakfu. And then this ending. A villain who thinks he can undo all his evil if he succeeds. His colossal screw up, and the hero, a child, who is enraged at the villain but interjects even to the people he's now a hero to - "It's over." He sees at least a bit of the complexity in this maddening supernatural conflict, he's confronted a time mage (terrifying in all roleplaying systems) hand to hand, and he steps in and begs for mercy on the behalf of his enemy. There's a lot to be learned about human fears and feelings in the heat of a possibly world-ending, timeline-altering battle here.
Quelle fin ! D'un côté qu'il ai échoué ou non, ça aurait donné le même résultat, ça ce serait finit bien... Soit il réussissait à remonter dans le temps et rien de tout ça ne se serait produit, soit il échouait et on en serait à ce résultat là. Nox est vraiment l'un des meilleurs antagonistes que j'ai pu voir dans un anime, dire que Wakfu est français, je suis fier d'eux :) Un personnage fou qui souhaitais juste revoir sa famille, prêt à tout les moyens pour en arriver à ses fins. C'était un salaud avec tout ce qu'il a fait mais d'un côté, le pauvre :/ Il a tout perdu et gaspillé tout ce temps pour rien au final, mais il a finit par rejoindre sa famille et finir en poussière (Ce qui n'est pas montré sur cette vidéo) à leur côté, sur leur tombe.
+Zan Dreamcatcher Honhonhonhon, couillons d'anglophones qui ne comprennent même pas ce qu'on dit, et qui pensent que les frites se mangent sans mayonnaise. En vrai, ils passeront ces comms sans les lire et voilà tout.
on peut se demander si Qilby n'y était pas pour quelque chose dans la folie de Nox, en lui parlant à travers l'Eliacube... Nox avait énormément de potentiel du début à la fin
The sound and cinematography in this scene is wonderful. The OST sounds to me like a music box his children could have once had (and it proves to me that, while there's nothing wrong with a classic Hollywood sad-soundtrack like 'Murder on the Orient Express' 2017 (which I strongly recommend as a film), there are other ways to create effective heartbreaking soundtracks); and the extreme long-shots of Nox - especially 1:05, and the way his voice echoes - show how alone in pain and grief he is. :'
Ese momento en el nox deja caer un lágrima y te das cuenta , mientras yugo le va nombrando todas las personas que han fallecido por su culpa , que jamás volverá a ver a su familia . Sin ninguna duda de los mejores finales de serie que he visto jamás
If Wakfu ever deals with the afterlife (maybe a season 4) it would be cool if Nox returns as a supporting character for Yago. I think everyone wants to see Nox back.
Am I the only one who thinks the Cube is an avatar for Nyarlathotep? You have to admit, it is a pretty ingenious if not outright sinister form one such as himself can take. Something so simple and seemingly harmless that promises you your greatest desire, pushing you to lengths you would never dare consider before, only to have that promise taken or twisted in some way that leaves you with nothing but regret. Meanwhile, the Cube silently laughs at your misery and the suffering you have wrought, letting others and even yourself believe you were just a victim of your own madness.
@@TovKafur Good to know. I can't really watch Wakfu in my country or on the streaming services I am subscribed to so this is good information. Thank you :)
I think it’s more like the One Ring, it was twisting Nox’s mind and body whilst subtly manipulating him in order to get itself back into the hands of an Eliatrope.
You know, I believe it was Qilby who was speaking to Nox from inside the Eliacube and it was him who drove Nox insane costing him his family and leading him down his path of darkness
i hope not, it would take away a serious proof that Nox was crazy speaking to himeslf trough the heliacube, besides the heliacube's voice is nox's not Qilby. And also minimize him as a villain because he will be no more but the puppet of Qilby Regardless, Qilby would have mention it if he could speak with people outside the cube knowing how desesperate and alone he was in the white dimension
What’s crazy is Yugo made it work. When he grabbed the cube he did go back in time. To Mount Zint on the day of his family’s death. Yugo used all the energy and Nox undid it. This is why you can see moments from the special Noximilian the Watchmaker episode. Nox was too worried about his fight with Yugo to realize it had worked. Which knowing this just makes this some how even more sad.
What I find truly sad about this is how, when he fought Yugo, you could see Ogris on a rainy night on stone pillars. There’s a heavy implication that during the fight Yugo accidentally used the Elliacube and sent them both back to EXACTLY to when Nox needed to go back to. But, Nox was blind and had tunnel vision, instead using the Eliacube again and getting rid of his ONE chance.
All of korra's season endings werent meant to be endings. They are all written so they can continue making books after the main stories. Wakfu was originally written with one season in mind, thats why the ending holds so much more closure than any legend of korra ending ever will.
TheRocketdrive The first season of Korra was ment to be a the only season, midway through they got contracted for 3 more, but Nick stepulated (for some fucked up reason) that each have an enclosed archplot.
Based on how bad Korra season 1 ending was I don't think there is any evidence it was not modified halfway through in preparation for further seasons. I really don't see why your trying to make this an apples to oranges thing, like some kind of external circumstance makes up for shitty writing, sure it might explain why the writing is shit, but it does not make up for it.
+TheRocketdrive Sure, they had a nice, proper conclusion in Season 1 but they still left some questions unanswered (like what's the deal with that girl from Eva's dream, or the visions the Cube gave to Yugo or why exactly Pinpin's body just vanished)
I find it really depressing because Nox regret what he did but he knew if he succeeded he wouldn't have to live with the guilt. But he didn't succeed and he didn't get to go back to his family and it's just ugh. Poor Noximilien.
Nox is not evil, he just broken, he just wanted to see his family again and fix everything back, is so sad that i knew this (btw im new to this animation)
If you pick something, go back in time, don't be surprised that the thing isn't in your pocket but as it place when you picked it. Same for wakfu, bad idea to steal something you will return for going back in time, even more for the tree of life he litteraly revive with the wakfu he got from. I like Nox history, not his way for trying or thinking to do so. To achieve his ambitions, sorry for him but the power should have gone only by him, since he's weak from the start.... Eliatrope cube's (never spoke to Heliatrope) tell him 'ofc ez bro" and he walked in....
(Spoilers for OLDBOY (2003)) In both that and this. I love the idea of the villain's plan succeeding... Only for it, in Nox's case, to not work as they had intended, making it so that everything they worked for was for nothing; or, in Lee Woo Jhin's case, for his vengance to be completed perfectly, only to realize that he had lived his entire life for that purpose alone, and now that it was completed he had nothing (followed, of course, by the gunshot in the elevator)
When Nox speaks to the cube and says that he was talking to him, it will not be because it was Oropo who spoke to him through it and consumed the Wakfu that Nox collected?
Man I remember watching this as a kid and being left completely speechless when I saw Nox crying (basicly the simular shock that Yugo had at that exsact moment).
Just imagine a Xelor that optimized every action so that many things could be done at the same moment in time. I'm not talking about stopping time, I'm talking about brief bursts of speed and efficiency. Think of that moment during ultra instinct when Goku hit Jiren like 30 times and it had lag on it.
Commenters have often compared Nox to Thanos, but while there are some similarities, I think more than anything else Nox is an Anti-Thanos. One of the most important differences between the two for me personally, is how either of them reacted to realising their plans were doomed to fail from the start: I think their differing reactions to their plan's failure reveals who either of them truly were at heart. When Thanos learned his plan was doomed to failure, he decided he would just take even more extreme measures than before to ensure his "solution" was proven true one way or another. When Nox learned his plan was doomed to failure, he just gave up: he didn't try taking more drastic measures, he didn't try taking the hero down with him, he just made peace with the hero once the latter had shown him pity, and he chose to spend his final moments with the family he'd tried and failed to bring back.
A year late but I think Nox is more like Vader than thanos, a vader with hope though that he could see Padme again, both of them were drawn, trusted some outside force that told them they could reclaim what was lost even if that meant doing terrible things, and in their search for power lost themselves. The only difference like I said Vader lost hope as soon as the empire rosed while Nox thought the Cube could've helped him.
@@sebas8225 Hell, it's possible that the cube _did_ have the power to turn back time, but chickened out at the end. That's the beauty of open ended stories
funny thing doe many of the voice actors in this show did the french voices for many blizzard's characters (such as Varyan by the sadida king voicer, tracer by Adamai)
Non tou ça pour remonter le temps et réparer les erreurs qu'il a fait dans le passé mais que au final pour remonter de 20 minutes en arrière , j'aime tellement se personnages de fait de son histoire mais aussi car je trouve tellement stylée
+Patrick Titz Sorry but nox is confirmed deceased, he is not coming back for season 3. Maybe he will be mentioned in a flashback or something but I don't see how he could be brought back. But I understand youre desire I really liked him as a character and is one of the few vilains I genuinly feel bad for once I learned his story.
+Mazur12 Even if they did they are already dead. Nox was over 200 years old thanks to the eliacube, that was the only thing keeping him alive. His family didn't have that meaning time already claimed them and in the end of season 1 you even see their graves.
While I prefer Nox, I do not the that Qilby is a bad villain. They both are two sides of the same coin. Nox is scared of losing what is most precious to him, while Qilby is scared of the eternity that lies in front of him. In my opinion, both are valid motivations.
Nox still had a good amount of power still in him at the end. He still could've fought but just gave up at the end. Not like he had any goals after that.
Indeed. I think it says a lot about who Nox really was at heart that he could've used his last remaining power to try and spite the heroes, but instead he just made peace with his foe and used it to spend his last moments with his family at their graves. 😢
mm.... i'd say nox might still linger though taking a much more harmonic path... of course i heard a few things mentioned of its universe.... so ,its also possible the people later find him once more ,seeking ther understanding as the immortal god of what they priceve as time & its magic... though not the at the expense of others anymore... only for what ever group that then gathers to seek him agen... finding him in meeting with what appears to be legion of ...more.. of him , of wich one is embracing him either saying it couldet be done... or saying it was done.. and while he remains there is a stream of what is time.. where he can behold the life he would have hade with his family if never finding the cube.. and perhaps a chilling deceleration of that legion that the cube makers will be wrought to answer for ther deceptions..before they all blink out of that temporal moment ,leaving nox to offer what he can to former foes.. about the lures something sprinkles through out worlds... to dupe mortals into immortality ,and to harvest wakfu for them... at any cost...
It’s insane how well-written Nox was He surmounted every obstacle as no more than an inventor, he conquered a Dragon through cunning, toppled several monuments through wit alone, outsmarted an entire kingdom, bested a powerful Elitrope with his dragon brother, and managed to suck the Wakfu from the tree of life… finally, he went back in time He succeeded in his goal, beating the hero’s, however, the only foil to his plan in the end was himself. His pride and arrogance overestimated the cubes abilities and rather than reversing 200 years worth of effort, it only reverted a mere 20 minutes. Far enough back in time for him to realize the error of his ways, feel the weight of his crimes, the shame of his actions, and the regret of not seeing it sooner. Its ironic, for a man who preached the value of time, it only took 20 minutes for everything to fall apart A villain defeated not by a hero, but by a consequence of their own actions.
![Wakfu Yugo VS Nox VF [Full HD] 1080p [60fps]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wio8ut7WLSA/mqdefault.jpg)
The worst part is when you realize the only reason Nox killed so many people so indiscriminately is because he genuinely thought he'd go back in time and all that would be undone, their deaths quite literally didn't matter because had he succeeded wouldn't have even happened. The tear Nox sheds may not be over just his family, but over the thousands of lives he only now realized he irreversibly destroyed.
Someone described it very well to me. Have you ever played a video game that involved choice, chose all the "Evil" options, heard the NPCs beg you, curse you and ask "why?" after you've killed them? But, it doesn't matter, because their just audio recordings of actors and when you reboot the game, they're right back to normal, like nothing happened.
But imagine it didn't reboot. Imagine everyone in that game was real, and you caused them unbelievable pain, thinking nothing you did would have any lasting consequence. I think in that moment when Nox looks at all the people he's hurt and can't undo what he's done, is the only time he was glad his family wasn't alive, so they didn't have to see the monster he turned himself into.
@@randomcenturion7264 that's kinda a part of Undertale success, you know
@@Maledivius True.
@@Maledivius e-xac-tly what I was thinking about.
Yeah, he knew people saw him as a monster but it didn't matter because it was all Temporary, he was going to fix everything. But when it became Permanent, imagine the weight of that realization.
4 years of college, just to flip burgers? All that debt I collected, simply to work a dead-end job? NOOOOO!!!
Profanely underrated comment.
XD
Same feeling, different situation.
Answer me, teacher! You said College was the only way to become rich! To be successful! ANSWER ME!!
@@troublemaker9899*Gets hit with loads of student loans and debts*
Nox is the perfect antagonist, there's really nothing about this characters that isn't great, his voice, his design, his story, his motivations, the way he moves and his ending, what a character.
I really hope he is alive and comes back into the series somehow. I've seen season 3, so I know what's what there. But as his death is not fully confirmed in the tv series there's a chance he can come back.
I agree but what about Qilby?
O z
He's not dead for sure, just left in eternal torment. So he might pop back in at some point.
@@ignisking759
I know...besides I should be in the season 3 but with a green wakfu arm,maybe in the same role as oropo or a secondary
@@ignisking759
No, it's 100% sure Nox is dead. He killed himself for not supporting the culpability of all his acts and ended in dust on his wife and children grave.
Imagine my shock when I asked my french teacher why "Adieux" was not a common "goodbye" only for her to say, Oh you only say that when you are never going to see the person again. My jaw dropped
yep it's a contraction of 2 words "a" and "dieu" which are "at" and "god", in context it means "next time we'll talk it'll be in the afterlife" pretty much
BROO
It's simply "farewell" in French, which is what Nox said in the subs
Farewell don't have the same connotations ?
@@Mr.Crow66 Yes, "adieux" just means "farewell". It doesn't have a special connotation like the OP implies, or like his teacher implied. It's all about context. Both the words goodbye and farewell can also be used to give a final goodbye speech, and have it be heavy with proper context.
I'll always come back to this as one of the best ways to resolve a climax. The villain "wins" only to realize not only has he not won, but lost everything due to the consequences of his own actions and pride. I was blown away by how well-written it was. One of the most satisfying conclusions to a story I have had the pleasure of experiencing. Second only to the conclusions of Code Geauss and Inception. Even then, it's pretty darn close.
the irony is when Hugo first grabbed the cube, during the final battle he accidentally activated the intended time warp and used up all the power to do so. Nox was to wrapped up in their battle to notice, when he drained Yugo he sent them back. Didn't even technically fail, just didn't notice it had worked.
@@canedy999 Bruh!
@@canedy999 It's Yugo. :)
@@DelanoSeven7 shit didn't realise my auto correct did that thanks, some reason always switches it to Hugo.
The biggest bite on a story perspective was the fact that the writers had the balls to gives us hope to revive Persadal, only to not have the time jump go back far enough to spar him.
Total big balls and I love the writers for it.
What is absolutely perfect is that in the special episode dedicated to Nox's backstory, he says "I'll soon be as powerful as the Xelor god, even more powerful!" and he technically became more powerful.
Even the god xelor can't go back in time or he just went back in time 1 minute so Nox technically did better than a god going back 20 minutes
Hmm
If I remeber well, the Xelor god go back in time for more than that in the mange Dofus, still have to check tho
If I remember is not that the god xelor can't go back in time, but that going back in time destroys the fabric of time, so why would the god of time intentionally damage time, it would be like the god Sadida burning forests.
If I remember there are missions in the dofus game about time paradoxes that Nox created because he fucked up the xelor clock by going back in time or something like that, I don't remember
If I remember well, a later vilain (of the psychopath mad scientist sort) said that Nox didn't travel back 20min in time. He rewinded the entire universe 20min back in time. Similar end result but much more impressive.
@@18earendilsee if he'd managed to just do himself he might have succeeded.
A shame the uploader didn't include the end of the credits, where it shows nox had used the last of his energy to blink to his family's grave. There time finally caught up to him and in an instant his body decayed to mere ash. There stood 3 grave stones, two children, one adult. Forver that mask would lay with the entombed family marking the passing of the Nox, a father finally returned home.
qq i got the hat of shame
He had 3 children and a wife.....
+Zan Dreamcatcher correction: the specials, not season 3. Season 3 is in the works currently.
link please?
I looked into the insideankama link from before, I just get a "no results found" thing. so link please.
First villain to succed in defeating the hero realising his plan then got immidiately destroid by the very plan that backfire. Priceless
That's what sets Nox apart from most villains, and most villain stories for that matter. A brave and ambitious writing decision, but it really paid off imo.
also, he is one of the few vilain with a understandable motif. Not especially forgivibable but one you could relate to. He is not some prick who wants more power, to rule over the kingdom or just be evil. He wants to get his family back and he is convinced that if he succeed, all his wrong deeds will never have existed. This show is the proof that in a good story, the vilain need as much caracter development than the actual hero.
Another villain like that is Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda. He’s actually very similar to Nox in that their villain quests were both doomed to fail from the very beginning.
@@goblintributemaker2539 Tail Lung? Why? As far as I'm concerned, his history goes like this:
- He's adopted by Shifu and trained to become the next Dragon Warrior
- Oogway sees darkness within him and declares he won't be the DW
- Tai Lung feels betrayed and becomes obsessed with the secret of the DW, and starts a rampage, proving that Oogway was right
- He is captured and held in prison
- Po is declared the Dragon Warrior and shortly after Tai Lung escapes
- He fights Po and finally manages to get his hands on the scroll, only to discover that the only secret is who you are on the inside
- Mad with the revelation, he fights with Po again, gets defeated and banished
Sure, they both created their own downfall and "managed" to get what they wanted only to discover it's not what they needed. But while Nox commited crimes to undo his mistakes, Tai Lung did that to get revenge and obtain what he thought was rightfully his. Same principle but on opposite directions.
Tai Lung didn’t want revenge though. He just wanted the Dragon Scroll so he could believe in himself. Him and Nox are different in many ways but I think they have a lot of similarities
I don't know what's worst, the agony of failing in his masterplan, and realizing he will never see his family again, or the realization that all that destruction and decimation of innocent lives led to nothing but 20 minutes worth of time....
This moment is so fucked up in so many ways, that i don't know if i should feel happy he failed, or sad he failed.
Goddam cube and it's corruptive nature....
It would've been a happier ending if he SUCCEEDED.
sgauden02 technically he did succeed. As I stated, the process is simply inefficient. With the seemingly infinite power of the dragons, had grugalo known that time travel would not in fact destroy the world, he may have chosen to power the cube rather than allow nox to continue his rampage.
TheRocketdrive I meant if he had FULLY succeeded.
sgauden02 technically he only set it out to travel back in time. meeting his family was secondary. Only after he found out how inefficient the process was did he finally conclude how futile this struggle was.
TheRocketdrive Yeah. A meaningless villain victory.
"The best-laid plans of mice and men…and Noximilien Coxen, the small man in the welder’s mask who wanted nothing but time."
Where's that from ?
@@serysyo8418 Time Enough At Last
@@anarky1765 So I guess you added the part about Nox ? I like it
I liked this guy's design SO much,I based Armour off of the way he looked. Mainly the helmet.
i agree , first i like his ninja look better but then i realize how badass and powerful he was with his new
That's what I call a nice antagonist
Well, he thought he could rewind time so it was ok. And he has his reasons, unlike other vilains who only kill because they feel better or think it's good.
***** When I say nice, I don't mean he's kind, but that he has a reasonable background, that allows us to understand why he is doing this. Not like some DBZ vilains who kill because it's fun. lol
+Gilberto Ortiz Are you stupid? Can't you understand? What if he kills someone, just travel time back and he or she will be alive again.
+Gilberto Ortiz Not an argument.
the point is not that he is "morally" good but that he is well made as a character. He had reasons for his insanity and what he wanted to achieve. it would have actually been a happier ending if he had, but it didn't work out and he was left with failure and two centuries worth of sin he couldnt make up for.
It's really heartbreaking. Nox honestly thought it would work. He earnestly believed he could do it.
And it amounted to nothing.
He overestimated the abilities he received from the cube and how much the cube could amplify the spell, truly tragic.
And it did ironically-
@@mrhippo3610 No it didn't. He's killed countless people up to that point, sure it undid 20 minutes of our main characters dying, but the years of Nox killing, destroying nature for Wakfu all remain permanent.
@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337 When Nox was still fighting Yugo they were teleported to a stormy location in which Yugo noticed Ogrest, the same one which caused the flooding that killed Nox’s family. My theory is that they went back in time to the point where Nox’s family was still alive
@@mrhippo3610 so sad Nox didn't realize at the time he was fighting yugo
Goddamn is this ending fantastic, as is Nox as a whole. I mean, firstly, he's a good guy. He may be an antagonist, but his intentions were all truly positive. He believed, without a shadow of a doubt, that if he had succeeded, then all of his wrongs would have been reversed. Despite all the evil he had done, he took no joy in his actions. Even his own laughter was more of a by-product of his insanity and corrupted mind, not actual joy.
And yet, despite trying so, so hard for so, so long, in the end, what does he get? 20 minutes. Over 200 years of struggle and pain and suffering, and he doesn't even get enough time to watch a single episode of Wakfu. And he realize, in the end, that all the awful things he had done were permanent. Not only did he destroy his family, but he did the same thing to countless others in his pursuit of righting his wrongs, and now, there's absolutely nothing he can do about it.
I think one of the saddest parts to me is when the king said it was time for Nox to "pay for (his) crimes". I think Nox knows this, and that he perfectly understands that he deserves to suffer for what happened. Maybe, he'd even be willing to accept any punishment that was given to him, but he knows his time has run out. He knows that, without a steady supply of Wakfu, and without the power of the Eliacube, he will only survive for a few more moments, unable to truly atone for his sins.
So, what does he do with those last few moments?
He teleports to the graves of his wife and children, and fades away, together with them at last.
It's funny how, if the Eliacube DID work the way he believed it would, then Wakfu would have been a show where the best possible outcome for everyone could have only happened if the villain of the show had won.
At least, we can take some comfort in the fact that, in the Wakfu afterlife, Noximilien is finally back together with his family again, truly happy for the first time in over 200 years.
I wouldn't say he was a good or a bad guy, just a man who had made a mistake he couldn't live with.
The crimes he committed didn't matter to him because if he succeeded they would never have happened and if he failed then the world would end, he didn't care if the world ended since his ended when he found out his family died due to him being too focused with the Eliacube.
He succeeded in his goal of traveling back in time but failed to go back far enough, it was beyond the worst outcome for him. No longer could he rationalize his crimes, undo his mistakes. It was a fool's quest and he was once more paying the price for his blindness.
So he did what he should have done over 200 years ago, spend precious time with his family.
I think the lesson we should take from Nox is, it's not about what you want to achieve or what mistakes you make, it's about spending the small amount of time we have with those we love.
@@Athkore Well he was a good guy, since the mistake he made was because he tried to earn more money so that his family wouldn't have to live in poverty, everything he was ever shown to do was to make his family happy.
@@dwight3555 He was a good guy before finding the Eliacube, after that he became obsessed with it.
For me the interesting part is everyone that warned him that it was impossible was wrong. He really did go back in time it was just the scale that was wrong.
Actually, there was a chance he did succeed, only to undo his own work by mistake. Remember how he and our favorite shorty "teleported" to where Ogrest was throwing a fit? Usually when they throw a fit like that, the world floods. However, the world was very much not flooded, and it didn't make an extremely large amount of sense for the machine to just teleport when it was designed to go back in time.
That means he might of gone back in time with the energy 200 years, not realizing it, then went back forward for 200 years via undoing everything, and only managing to get back 20 minutes afterward.
I just realized...Yugo can see the wakfu/life force of people.
What happens if Yugo saw Nox's wakfu rapidly vanishing so he immediately realized Nox was going to die.
That's why he stopped everyone , he knew Nox gave up , he was about to die, so he lets Nox go so he can spend his last SECONDS of life wherever he decides to, arresting Nox wouldn't matter.
He didn’t need the Wakfu vision to see that Nox was on the brink
He knows that Nox wants to go back in time for a personal reason, he heard his speeches on his actions not mattering because he will simply rewind time, he saw Nox shed a tear of genuine regret. He knew there was nothing left for Nox and let him go. In that moment, he felt pity for the Xelor, a man corrupted by obsession.
He never forgets the lessons he learned from Nox either. He continues to think of Nox even later into the story when considering the risk of power. He learned that power corrupts people, leading to terrible catastrophes. With the more villains he faces, the more he starts to reaffirm this belief, that power brings corruption, an ideal that began with Nox. Nox’s presence influencing Yugo to such a degree is an impressive feat for the writer to have accomplished.
This is why there's a difference between heros winning and villains loosing.
They didn't win this battle Nox just...lost
Nox was such a good character.
At least Sadlygrove got to die happy and surrounded by the people he loved, knowing that he saved them. Noximilieu didn't even get that small comfort.
spoiler DONT READ DONT READ
am french so i watched it in french,i suppose that sadlygrove is tristepin,the iop?well he gets revived in season 2
@@malicharton4403 bonjour. That is my only French word I really know.
@@jaredf.6532 bah aurevoire
@@malicharton4403 opinion impopulaire mais vu le traitement de pinpin dans les saisons suivantes j'aurais préféré qu'il le reste
@@Cakemarvelous il a enfin pecho laisse le faire sa vie 😅
I think the Morale of this show is that Time is precious and should not be wasted. Many of the antognists and problems in the show revolved around people stuck in the past and/or unwilling to go into the future!
He lost everything, NOT because he was negligent. It was because that EFFING cube corrupted him. Noximillian was a honest, cultural, and magnificent human, a great father and husband.
He wanted to give more to his family and the cube use that in it's favor destroying his mind, and corrupting both his body and soul. Upon his family death he had 1 second of sanity, within a crushing world of despair and madness that led him to the destruction and erradication of nations, to feed, the very wich that corrupted him in the first place.
He never stood a chance... It's like the One Ring of Power.
MrRetlav He could have moved on, he could have learned to forgive himself
Quinn Fletcher Do you understand the level of corruption, he already had to withstand before breaking? And this all before his family even left.
The moment that cube fell upon his hands, he lost, and you can say "He had a choice", but the level of control of the cube, proved to be bigger then him.
He was once a great man, that got broken, do NOT think you had better chances then him.
Quinn Fletcher until season 2, nothing in season 2 mentioned time, only Nox and razor time were mentioned
Cube didn't corupt him. His thirst for knowledge of the cube made him crazy. It was all his doing. He didn't know moderation.
The risk I took was calculated. But man, am I bad at math.
Season 1 spoilers:
A small detail I just noticed: Nox uses the same word, "adieu", or farewell, that he uses to taunt Grougaloragron shortly before their last battle. In both cases, the word choice implies a permanent departure, and foreshadows Nox's death at the end of Season 1.
Wow thats some clever foreshadowing. Thanks for sharing!
Nox is a good villain
In addition, while "Adieu" does mean farewell, it's to a more extreme extent. "Adieu" is for someone you'll never see again, hence why it's not frequently used and is used during dramatic and/or sad moments. Basically, for french speakers, as soon as Nox used "Adieu", we knew it meant his death was coming. "Adieu" wasn't IMPLYING, it was literally meaning "goodbye forever". Just a small addition from a french native speaker :)
@@slvr_grmm7769 i am no linguist but in French "adieu" is the contraction of two other French word "à" - "to/until", "dieu"-"god", "adieu" literals meaning, "we shall see again infront of god"
Yes but Nox did not diea at the end of season 1 lol he just quit being the bad guy
I can't help but feel sorry for Nox. In a way i kind of wanted him to succeed so he could be with his family again.
Don't forget the fact that, if he succeeded, he could have reversed all of the damage that he had done. He truly did believe that he was doing the right thing, which only makes this scene sadder and darker.
AxelOwnz Spoiler alert: Oropo is the manipulate Nox according to Season 3.
One of my all-time favorite antagonists in fiction. He is so underrated.
Tabarnaque
The whole thing gets even worse when you realise that the 20 minute jumps back in time reversed the actual jump in time that happened during his fight with Yugo, which brought him back just before when the monster killed his family on the island. But he was so focused he didn't realise it, essentially making the same mistake he did 200 years ago with his research of the cube. Now, he is truly alone.
Yugo dont was back in time he just got in Mount Zenith.
it's a theory but it's wrong unfortunately, they just teleported as Eliatrops power is space manipulation and not time (in direct opposition with Xelors)
@@healthyseal Yes
@@healthyseal I'll be sincere with you, I always though the Cube did the jump in time and Yugo did the jump in space, then, the Cube absorbed some energy from the fight between Yugo and Nox and jumped back just enough to undo most of the initial jump.
Was it confirmed that it's just a theory? Or are we left mostly wondering?
@@Kromosios mind you the cube wasn't even supposed to go back in time, what nox did was a miracle, he successfully did what the xelor god couldn't do during eternity. It would have been impossible for the cube to just jump back 200years in a fraction of second.
Really shows that the best villain in fictions are the ones using bad means to good ends... Because in the end, very little separates them from the heroes. Should have Nox indeed succeeded, all his evil done for 200 years would effectively be gone forever.
Which, like, he “shouldn’t” get because the ends would justify the means (doing terrible things because they would not matter and ultimately ideally result in them never happening), but at the same time, spits in the face of what his effort was meant for.
He could have rewritten history itself had he succeeded, and all he wanted was to be with his family.
@@alecLogan oh yeah no arguing he was a complete monster, that even considered killing the family dog just for a little bit more energy. That, and if he won and his plan succeeded, I doubt he would have been able to live with his family again. He is far too removed from who his wife fell in love with. Still for the viewer to empathise with him, as that character asks the question "how far would you go to save your family"
To me this shows how valuable time is, 20 minutes was not enough to return nox to his family, but it was enough to save the tree of live and the sadida’s. To me the lesson is use your time wisely.
This made me cry. He loves his family so much that he spent 200 years to gather wakfu and rewind time to be with his family again. It didn't work at the end. What really made me cry is him tearing up probably because he didn't get to be with his family again and realizes the damage he had cause. Man, What a great antagonist. The perfect antagonist in fact. The only one that legit made me cry out of symphaty.
Same here. Knowing his full backstory before I watched this scene for the first time, it truly makes me cry for him :''
0:18 I don’t know why but that “no” is so hilarious
he's just the best antagonist of Wakfu for me
I watched this as a kid and as a teen and im so glad people loved this as much as I have and keep coming back to it too, this show was deeply understated at least where I lived.
I think that what makes Nox into probably the best villain of Wakfu is the fact that almost anyone who has a loved one that died for one reason or another can see him/herself in Nox' place. Seriously- ask yourself this- if you thought that you could bring your dead family or friends back...wouldn't you be ready to tear the world apart to bring them back?
Especially if all your wrongdoings would be cancelled the moment you retrieved your loved ones.
Indeed.
"There isn't a single boy born who wouldn't tear the world apart to find his mother." - Doctor Who, 2005
I imagine Nox could relate to that quote
That's a tough one for sure...but no.
Not that the decision wouldn't horribly rend my heart, but I'd think my loved ones would prefer I not destroy the world for their sake.
I just realized something. The cube purposely sent him back 20 minutes to give him a false sense of hope. If he had failed, as he said himself, he wouldn’t have cared. If he succeeded, everything would be reversed. So the cube purposefully rewinded 20 minutes so that it would hit him with the harsh reality that over 200 years of destruction had amounted to rewinding time 20 minutes. Letting him know he never would have succeeded, never stood a chance, and right before he disappeared too. Makes me wonder if the cube actually had the potential to rewind it further.
Its possible. The cube didnt come with a manual after all and comes from a race that had figured out space travel; that and the cube was designed for people that, as a whole specie, have powers very different from anything he can do. Its very possible Nox just didnt know how to use the cube to its full potential, or would have been unable to do so no matter how long he studied it because he isnt an eliotrope (hell, Yugo managed to drain energy from the cube after literally just seeing it for the first time, something that took many years for Nox). He had to blunder his way to where he was, without having that natural connection to the cube.
There was a detail I remember learning about but only remember vaguely now, but during the fight scene where they seemingly saw the monster that killed his family in the future, was actually in the past. They did go back to the past, didn't realize because they were all too enthralled in the Battle, and then accidentally returned to the present - off by 20 minutes.
@@thorveim1174 If I recall the Eliacube was actually made from the "heart" of a machine creature, specifically the race that would drive the Eliatropes and dragons off their homeworld and would start hunting them, that's actually what set off the war, the machines were pissed off at Quilby did to one of them. So it's possible the cube does have some level of consciousness, or one could have formed over time/been installed when it was created.
@@somerandomschmuck2547 creo que a la especie a la que te refieres se llama MECASMOS
dident the cube come from some dubious entity or or creatures that more or lees 'stole' a lot of the magic on the sly...setting him up to fail as a scape goat or something like that ?
He may not have been all that great of a dude, but he did spit in the face of a god, and that was pretty cool.
Lol
Just give him back his family god damnit T-T
Since he's dead tho, maybe he's back with his family and live his life as a ghost with his family forever 😄
Dang Eliacube, it could've saved a lot of people...
R.I.P Nox, at least you will join your family in the word of Dead
@@savy473 hopefully!!! But Nox still left alot behind...
To think the ending apparently would have been HAPPIER if he'd won.
i mean he won. But it backfired by Eliacube.
Disagree, if he had won Eva and Pin Pin would not have met and fallen in love. In a way the love love Nox lost is recycled within Eva and Pin Pin
I mean, not apparently, it would have and was happier. If Nox's plan succeeded completely, all of his evil acts would have not happened.
And by backstabbing Yugo and rewinding 20 minutes, Nox undid his literal genocide of an entire race; had Yugo won, the Sadidas would have remained exterminated.
Nox... I can't forget you !
You gotta feel sorry for Nox a bit here his life was once perfect he had a family and a job as a clockmaker then he found the Eliacube he went crazy trying to understand it then one day it drove him nuts, His family left him and was killed by the chaos caused by Ogrest. he Vowed to bring them back whatever the cost only to fail in the end to die 200 years later at the grave of his family.
richard wright even Ogrest's issues all lie with the evil eliotrope.
What if
You wanted to go back in time
But Eliacube said:
"20 minutes"
Actually the eliacube said nothing, since it couldn't actually talk.
Finally 200 years back in time and you immediately go forward again. *ironic*
@@miquelescribanoivars5049 I like to believe the guy from season 3 was the one who talked to Nox through the cube
@@mrhippo3610 That didn't happen.
Nox was really special, he is the most well written antagonist I have ever seen and I actually was hoping he would win and bring back his family...
This is the most well written antagonist I've ever seen (I haven't seen that many works of fictions though)
This is one of the best fantasy interactions I can remember in my life. I've modeled a few D&D conflicts on this and other instances of Wakfu. And then this ending. A villain who thinks he can undo all his evil if he succeeds. His colossal screw up, and the hero, a child, who is enraged at the villain but interjects even to the people he's now a hero to - "It's over." He sees at least a bit of the complexity in this maddening supernatural conflict, he's confronted a time mage (terrifying in all roleplaying systems) hand to hand, and he steps in and begs for mercy on the behalf of his enemy. There's a lot to be learned about human fears and feelings in the heat of a possibly world-ending, timeline-altering battle here.
Nox's motivation is the perfect illustration of "the end justifies the means"
Except when the end he wanted is literally impossible.
The voice acting sounds more convincing in the French dub than the English dub.
Quoi
@@yohannetienne7749 Il dit que les voix des acteurs sont plus convaincantes en français qu'en anglais.
Wish there was a redub that took the performance seriously. Zenyatta's voice would suit Nox well.
the dub gets better in later seasons, thankfully
I mean the its a french show isnt it?
Quelle fin !
D'un côté qu'il ai échoué ou non, ça aurait donné le même résultat, ça ce serait finit bien... Soit il réussissait à remonter dans le temps et rien de tout ça ne se serait produit, soit il échouait et on en serait à ce résultat là.
Nox est vraiment l'un des meilleurs antagonistes que j'ai pu voir dans un anime, dire que Wakfu est français, je suis fier d'eux :)
Un personnage fou qui souhaitais juste revoir sa famille, prêt à tout les moyens pour en arriver à ses fins. C'était un salaud avec tout ce qu'il a fait mais d'un côté, le pauvre :/ Il a tout perdu et gaspillé tout ce temps pour rien au final, mais il a finit par rejoindre sa famille et finir en poussière (Ce qui n'est pas montré sur cette vidéo) à leur côté, sur leur tombe.
+Zan Dreamcatcher Honhonhonhon, couillons d'anglophones qui ne comprennent même pas ce qu'on dit, et qui pensent que les frites se mangent sans mayonnaise.
En vrai, ils passeront ces comms sans les lire et voilà tout.
Cette chaine anglaise un oublie un détail:les droits d'auteur :/
on peut se demander si Qilby n'y était pas pour quelque chose dans la folie de Nox, en lui parlant à travers l'Eliacube... Nox avait énormément de potentiel du début à la fin
The sound and cinematography in this scene is wonderful. The OST sounds to me like a music box his children could have once had (and it proves to me that, while there's nothing wrong with a classic Hollywood sad-soundtrack like 'Murder on the Orient Express' 2017 (which I strongly recommend as a film), there are other ways to create effective heartbreaking soundtracks); and the extreme long-shots of Nox - especially 1:05, and the way his voice echoes - show how alone in pain and grief he is. :'
I love how the broken lenses in his mask look like he’s tearing up at 1:03
Likewise! :) :)
Press F for nox
Ese momento en el nox deja caer un lágrima y te das cuenta , mientras yugo le va nombrando todas las personas que han fallecido por su culpa , que jamás volverá a ver a su familia . Sin ninguna duda de los mejores finales de serie que he visto jamás
Nox :'( POOR Noxmillien.You will always be there at your familys grave :'(
If Wakfu ever deals with the afterlife (maybe a season 4) it would be cool if Nox returns as a supporting character for Yago.
I think everyone wants to see Nox back.
In a white armor :)?
Am I the only one who thinks the Cube is an avatar for Nyarlathotep? You have to admit, it is a pretty ingenious if not outright sinister form one such as himself can take. Something so simple and seemingly harmless that promises you your greatest desire, pushing you to lengths you would never dare consider before, only to have that promise taken or twisted in some way that leaves you with nothing but regret. Meanwhile, the Cube silently laughs at your misery and the suffering you have wrought, letting others and even yourself believe you were just a victim of your own madness.
Iirc it was Oropo who orchestrated whole thing, and he definitely got Crawling Chaos vibes.
@@TovKafur Good to know. I can't really watch Wakfu in my country or on the streaming services I am subscribed to so this is good information. Thank you :)
I think it’s more like the One Ring, it was twisting Nox’s mind and body whilst subtly manipulating him in order to get itself back into the hands of an Eliatrope.
@@anarky1765 Nice. Either one is fine with me.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
You know, I believe it was Qilby who was speaking to Nox from inside the Eliacube and it was him who drove Nox insane costing him his family and leading him down his path of darkness
i think that too
i hope not, it would take away a serious proof that Nox was crazy speaking to himeslf trough the heliacube, besides the heliacube's voice is nox's not Qilby. And also minimize him as a villain because he will be no more but the puppet of Qilby
Regardless, Qilby would have mention it if he could speak with people outside the cube knowing how desesperate and alone he was in the white dimension
It was another person, go check s3
Actually, Oropo was the one speaking through the Eliacube.
Sorry. The third season was released a while ago, I thought everyone saw it.
I would do anything to see my family once again even if it means destroying everything and bringing chaos
The theory when he teleported to that place with Yugo, that was the past. Cause the monster we sre there is the same monster that killed Nox's family.
You mean Ogrest?
Ogrest is immortal due to the dofus, this theory is just fans that dont know Wakfu lore and try to organize things.
Nah doesn't make sense. Plus he wouldn't try a "jump" in time, that would cause paradoxes
Just a theory, not accurate.
Nox fr thought he could quicksave that far back when he had already autosaved 😢
This is probably the worst failure any villain has ever faced.
What’s crazy is Yugo made it work. When he grabbed the cube he did go back in time. To Mount Zint on the day of his family’s death. Yugo used all the energy and Nox undid it. This is why you can see moments from the special Noximilian the Watchmaker episode. Nox was too worried about his fight with Yugo to realize it had worked. Which knowing this just makes this some how even more sad.
aw, you didn't even show him turned into dust at his family's grave :/
What I find truly sad about this is how, when he fought Yugo, you could see Ogris on a rainy night on stone pillars.
There’s a heavy implication that during the fight Yugo accidentally used the Elliacube and sent them both back to EXACTLY to when Nox needed to go back to. But, Nox was blind and had tunnel vision, instead using the Eliacube again and getting rid of his ONE chance.
sacrebleu
Diantre.
Fichtre
Bon sang d'bonsoir
Sapristi saucisses
Flûte
Way better season ending then any of Korra's season endings.
All of korra's season endings werent meant to be endings. They are all written so they can continue making books after the main stories. Wakfu was originally written with one season in mind, thats why the ending holds so much more closure than any legend of korra ending ever will.
TheRocketdrive The first season of Korra was ment to be a the only season, midway through they got contracted for 3 more, but Nick stepulated (for some fucked up reason) that each have an enclosed archplot.
frbe0101 perhaps, but from beginning to end wakfu was made to be 1 season only. after it ended they found out they got cleared for season 2.
Based on how bad Korra season 1 ending was I don't think there is any evidence it was not modified halfway through in preparation for further seasons. I really don't see why your trying to make this an apples to oranges thing, like some kind of external circumstance makes up for shitty writing, sure it might explain why the writing is shit, but it does not make up for it.
+TheRocketdrive
Sure, they had a nice, proper conclusion in Season 1 but they still left some questions unanswered (like what's the deal with that girl from Eva's dream, or the visions the Cube gave to Yugo or why exactly Pinpin's body just vanished)
Imagine 200 years of work to return your family, now knowing it was all a waste of time. Damn, just imagine. :C
You have to understand Nox, everything he did was to save his family. He just didn’t care what it would cost to do that
Cuz he thought if he succeeded all the atrocities would be as if it never happened cuz he reversed time
I find it really depressing because Nox regret what he did but he knew if he succeeded he wouldn't have to live with the guilt. But he didn't succeed and he didn't get to go back to his family and it's just ugh. Poor Noximilien.
There will always be a price for madness if you let it consume you
Nox is not evil, he just broken, he just wanted to see his family again and fix everything back, is so sad that i knew this (btw im new to this animation)
If you pick something, go back in time, don't be surprised that the thing isn't in your pocket but as it place when you picked it. Same for wakfu, bad idea to steal something you will return for going back in time, even more for the tree of life he litteraly revive with the wakfu he got from. I like Nox history, not his way for trying or thinking to do so. To achieve his ambitions, sorry for him but the power should have gone only by him, since he's weak from the start.... Eliatrope cube's (never spoke to Heliatrope) tell him 'ofc ez bro" and he walked in....
(Spoilers for OLDBOY (2003))
In both that and this. I love the idea of the villain's plan succeeding... Only for it, in Nox's case, to not work as they had intended, making it so that everything they worked for was for nothing; or, in Lee Woo Jhin's case, for his vengance to be completed perfectly, only to realize that he had lived his entire life for that purpose alone, and now that it was completed he had nothing (followed, of course, by the gunshot in the elevator)
Очень хорошо сделанный злодей , один из любимейших.
You can't help but feel sorry for Nox.
When Nox speaks to the cube and says that he was talking to him, it will not be because it was Oropo who spoke to him through it and consumed the Wakfu that Nox collected?
The beast vilains are not evil, they're just lost .. just like him
Now that I’m older watching this scene is sad
Man I remember watching this as a kid and being left completely speechless when I saw Nox crying (basicly the simular shock that Yugo had at that exsact moment).
“All this to bring back yer bloody sweetheart. All that death and horror for that wrench”
*his family
Not to mention if his plan succeded as intented all his evil would have been undone.
C'est si triste quand on comprend la raison de sa folie
This show....is too good
Just imagine a Xelor that optimized every action so that many things could be done at the same moment in time. I'm not talking about stopping time, I'm talking about brief bursts of speed and efficiency. Think of that moment during ultra instinct when Goku hit Jiren like 30 times and it had lag on it.
Its so sad the history of nox
By far one of the best, and one of the most compellingly heartbreaking, tragic villains in western animation history.
the cube is the real villain here
I would do that to if I had just a small chance of seeing my family. Good thing they still are alive.
Commenters have often compared Nox to Thanos, but while there are some similarities, I think more than anything else Nox is an Anti-Thanos. One of the most important differences between the two for me personally, is how either of them reacted to realising their plans were doomed to fail from the start: I think their differing reactions to their plan's failure reveals who either of them truly were at heart. When Thanos learned his plan was doomed to failure, he decided he would just take even more extreme measures than before to ensure his "solution" was proven true one way or another. When Nox learned his plan was doomed to failure, he just gave up: he didn't try taking more drastic measures, he didn't try taking the hero down with him, he just made peace with the hero once the latter had shown him pity, and he chose to spend his final moments with the family he'd tried and failed to bring back.
A year late but I think Nox is more like Vader than thanos, a vader with hope though that he could see Padme again, both of them were drawn, trusted some outside force that told them they could reclaim what was lost even if that meant doing terrible things, and in their search for power lost themselves. The only difference like I said Vader lost hope as soon as the empire rosed while Nox thought the Cube could've helped him.
This scene hurts every time
French dub is the best
Technically, not a dub, Wakfu is french this would be the original audio.
@@tissueoflies2780 maybe both so
_"dub"_
Just for the record, you realize this was made by French people, right? French is the original language, not a dub.
@@thebighurt2495It's animation so these are not real people with no real voices... Even if it's the original, it's still a dub
This kinda makes me think of undertale, in the end, when you’ve killed everyone, you know you can go back and reset it all....
the cube only uses him to get more powerful to get more wakfu nox was its marrionete poor nox
But in the end all of that Wakfu was drained...
@@sebas8225 Hell, it's possible that the cube _did_ have the power to turn back time, but chickened out at the end. That's the beauty of open ended stories
The cube never talked to him. That was all him
@@nicholas2969ify I'm pretty sure it did, iirc, it was Oropo who manipulated Nox to get wakfu
funny thing doe
many of the voice actors in this show did the french voices for many blizzard's characters (such as Varyan by the sadida king voicer, tracer by Adamai)
"years of academy training wasted!"
Non tou ça pour remonter le temps et réparer les erreurs qu'il a fait dans le passé mais que au final pour remonter de 20 minutes en arrière , j'aime tellement se personnages de fait de son histoire mais aussi car je trouve tellement stylée
I m happy to say : SEASON 3 CONFIRMED ! Maybe Nox will come back to help Yugo ;) Who knows ^^
+Patrick Titz Sorry but nox is confirmed deceased, he is not coming back for season 3. Maybe he will be mentioned in a flashback or something but I don't see how he could be brought back. But I understand youre desire I really liked him as a character and is one of the few vilains I genuinly feel bad for once I learned his story.
Magic can always happen :3 Stop giving up ! Yesterday you said tomorrow. SO JUST DO IT !
SEASON THREE WAS REALLY CONFIRMED?! YUSSHHH!!~
And his family maybe somehow survive in those underwater city
+Mazur12 Even if they did they are already dead. Nox was over 200 years old thanks to the eliacube, that was the only thing keeping him alive. His family didn't have that meaning time already claimed them and in the end of season 1 you even see their graves.
The ending would’ve been happier if the bad guy had _won..._
While I prefer Nox, I do not the that Qilby is a bad villain. They both are two sides of the same coin. Nox is scared of losing what is most precious to him, while Qilby is scared of the eternity that lies in front of him. In my opinion, both are valid motivations.
2:42 selon le ton de nox on peut constater que c'était bel et bien noximilien qui est revenue a lui
I think Yugo realize that Nox is gonna die soon. So he just want everyone to just let him go that’s why he told them to stop.
New guy here...
Thought the title was "Waifu fox"
2:05 now looked at the screen...but why? He knew we were watching him? Or something
Nox still had a good amount of power still in him at the end. He still could've fought but just gave up at the end. Not like he had any goals after that.
Indeed. I think it says a lot about who Nox really was at heart that he could've used his last remaining power to try and spite the heroes, but instead he just made peace with his foe and used it to spend his last moments with his family at their graves. 😢
mm.... i'd say nox might still linger though taking a much more harmonic path...
of course i heard a few things mentioned of its universe.... so ,its also possible the people later find him once more ,seeking ther understanding as the immortal god of what they priceve as time & its magic... though not the at the expense of others anymore...
only for what ever group that then gathers to seek him agen... finding him in meeting with what appears to be legion of ...more.. of him , of wich one is embracing him either saying it couldet be done... or saying it was done.. and while he remains there is a stream of what is time.. where he can behold the life he would have hade with his family if never finding the cube..
and perhaps a chilling deceleration of that legion that the cube makers will be wrought to answer for ther deceptions..before they all blink out of that temporal moment ,leaving nox to offer what he can to former foes..
about the lures something sprinkles through out worlds... to dupe mortals into immortality ,and to harvest wakfu for them... at any cost...
It’s insane how well-written Nox was
He surmounted every obstacle as no more than an inventor, he conquered a Dragon through cunning, toppled several monuments through wit alone, outsmarted an entire kingdom, bested a powerful Elitrope with his dragon brother, and managed to suck the Wakfu from the tree of life… finally, he went back in time
He succeeded in his goal, beating the hero’s, however, the only foil to his plan in the end was himself. His pride and arrogance overestimated the cubes abilities and rather than reversing 200 years worth of effort, it only reverted a mere 20 minutes. Far enough back in time for him to realize the error of his ways, feel the weight of his crimes, the shame of his actions, and the regret of not seeing it sooner.
Its ironic, for a man who preached the value of time, it only took 20 minutes for everything to fall apart
A villain defeated not by a hero, but by a consequence of their own actions.
I came here from a tiktok edif and now im interested
it's not often you see the good guy let the bad guy go. I liked this ending a lot.
"200 ans de collecte de Wakfu… TOUT ÇA POUR 20 MALHEUREUSES MINUTES ?!!!"