I use under canopy for 3 runs in my tent now and I will never go back without them. More light from above just don’t give you the enhanced quality and quantity of flower that under does. It’s not a game changer but it’s an improvement that pays itself in no time. As for toplights, the quantity is more important than the actual light spectrum.
@ in a tent? Where branches and flowers touch the sides? That aside I would have to use at least 2 instead of 1 under. That doesn’t sound more efficient to me
@johnwayne122 side lights are much more productive than floor mounted lights. If you managed your tent properly then side lighting is extremely productive and you don't need much extra wattage just the correct spectrum to compliment the main light/lights. Twisting leafs is a common problem with floor mounted lighting because photosynthesis occurs via the leafs top surface and not it's underside. This is simply not as good for the plant as light coming from the sides and from above. I have tried using both methods and it really is very obvious what the plants find easier to convert.
@@Chris-zu4es Samsung Osram SMD-Board Flower Board EVO V2. One 1m /3ft I run 4 with meanwell hlg240H. Draws actual 250w in a 5x2,5ft tent it increases the performing canopy depth from 60cm and to +100cm. I was super Skeptical at first but now I am a believer.
I had an unused Mars Hydro SP3000 that I used for undercanopy in my 5X5 hung upside down and facing up across my tent and it made a noticeable difference in nug size and quality from the lowers. My next run, I was using the SP3000 in another tent and did not use any undercanopy lighting and realized what I was missing, so recently picked up a number of Mars FC-1500 lights to hang upside down for under-canopy lighting. I only wish those lights were removable from the bars themselves to make positioning them closer.
I have always used under canopy lights since the early 1980s. After my first. My previous years were always growing outdoor.. 1980 I moved to indoors and a combination outdoors. I noticed how indoors the lower branches suffered greatly with bad development so I stuck lights down on the ground facing upwards from underneath at a 45° angle. And I got butt development as if it was the top crown of the plant on the lower branches drastically increasing my yield per cubic foot of canopy.
i want to see the growpros vs faven vs Craft Farmer under canopy lights review! all side by side to see which company is really the best. have you reviewed those other ones yet?
Might find them more useful as supplemental side lighting. That way, you get benefits of under canopy and side lighting. Thanks, Shane. It's good to have options.
I thought that plants don't take light from there under side leaves !?just spend more money ! Good light ,good ventilation, good medium and good seed thats it . And green fingers
I use under canopy for 3 runs in my tent now and I will never go back without them. More light from above just don’t give you the enhanced quality and quantity of flower that under does. It’s not a game changer but it’s an improvement that pays itself in no time. As for toplights, the quantity is more important than the actual light spectrum.
@@johnwayne122 interesting there was only a tiny percentage of people even saying that before the internet made it possible to spread misinformation on a mass scale. That's what I am hoping to do brother. The point was things change in science and what was true yesterday may not be true today.
These light companies just thinking of different ways to make money there not real growers if they were they would know you dont need that garbage my friend grows 3 pound plants without that bullshit lol these guys using under lights cant even get those numbers lol
Fair play all the idiots in these comments who make assumptions. Why dont you try things before you state your expert opinions? Ive been running under canopy for 2 years. The FACTS from my experience are. More watering and dehu needed. Increased overall yield by 30%. No more lows and tops. Just tops all the way thru. Master your craft guys jheeeze. Yes they are over priced. But loke everything in thos game. If you know what youre doing, youll earn it back the first run
What I always wondered is the perfect distance for under/intra canopy lights? If we put such strong lights too close to the plants will they not get damaged by light-intensity/ temperature? Therefore I thought I will add weaker under-canopy lights, to not have to worry about this. Because as a non commercial grower in a small tent, a plant could easyly touch the intra-canopy lights. Thanks for this interesting test and your awesome content!
I wondered the same. Mammoth has some that they say contain no red diodes, just white and blue, and that red diodes are the ones that cause burns. I don't know if this is true or not, but in my experience i would lean to yes. Eg.. some strains get more yellow sooner with a red-heavy spectrum. That said, if any light is too bright it will burn, I'm just not sure on various spectrums, except of course UV.
@@wilhelm8735 I blast under with 250w on 4 smd boards on 3 feet and I got flowers as close as 5in or 12cm without any signs of photobleaching or heat issues and a penetration of 25 inch /50cm
@@MisterNotSpanish many LED lights turned up to 100% and lowered too close to the tops WILL burn. I've used several brands, and have seen bleached and burned tops on all of them if it gets too close. Some lights and some strains more than others, of course. Have you even used LED grow lights?
These have me wondering about targeting different spectrums at different parts/heights of the plant. Can I keep super tight internodal spacing with lots of blue from below? Can I cause more stretch with far red below? Do I want to do any of that? Are there other things to mess about with? INB4 someone tells me I can just google it as it's all be figured out already.
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Those might be controversial for cannnabis gains, but for tropical houseplants seems amazing. For 200 usd to be able to adjust spectrum and thus steer if i want more anthocyamins or more other pigments? Amazing! I will be using these as my main lights.
We used a similar product for the last 2 grows, I will say it does firm up and eliminate popcorn/larf from under the canopy. I don’t know about 15-20% more yield but definitely 5-10% in improving overall quality. 95% top shelf product.
Our were 100 watt per in between each row in 4x8 used 6 total combined with x4 430 watt top lights and supplemental 390-420nm blue and 680nm red at 60 each set x4 for 2560 watt potential but only run everything between 40-60% which covers PPFD, DLI, Temperature parameters. The plants were a little shorter and more stocky than usual. Will continue to use them.
More light will increase uniformity and work the same as using a stronger light without putting extra stress on the tops if you are pushing them hard already. The bottom of leaves if only a tiny bit photosensitive so I do not think sticking them on the floor is the way but around the sides of the tent at the C bud level would be sweet. There are 3 studies if you look, at least two have corporate sponsors and no disclaimer for conflicts, and one is from a pretty TH-cam-famous researcher that noted some growth but also negatives if you use too much.
For my 3x3 tents I've been using mars hydro VG-40 strip lights for under canopy lighting. They go for about $60 when on sale. They're only 40 watts per pair but they definitely make a noticeable difference in the quality of lower nugs. It's saves me tons of time trimming larf which I absolutely hate. They come with clear plastic covers to protect from water but I can just pull mine out of my tents in a few seconds so I don't really need to worry about them getting wet.
Yes they are at their lowest setting. The base is stainless steel, just a few mm, the upright is around 30cm, the light is 9.3cm tall, so lowest setting around 39cm, adjust up to about 55cm.
I'm all for under/intercanopy lighting, the debate is over for me. The only set back is the width spread on these units, based on the chart reading provided these lights in particular have an incredible 1 foot width spread along with 4 feet of lenghth of optimal added light to really give the plants that boost for growth up and down the canopy if done correctly with light intensity adjustment. Now with that information, it is really on the individual to make an educated decision whether or not this is ideal for their set up/garden. The tools are provided if you choose to incorporate.
For a homegrower id rather start another tent for the same price and better outcome theres no way 100w under will yield more then using 100wat over but rhats room dependent i may try my old ts600 underneath ny budroom when i upgrade my veg clone room tho all good fun
100w light, tent cost, fans, ac, etc will draw significantly more electricity - but the real savings are in the time invested in lolipoping, the time saved on no longer having any larf C buds to have to trim. With the UCL4 you can Emerson effect and shave off a week from your flowering cycle. With the UCL3 you will be amazed at the color expression, terp profile, and evenness of the maturity of your flower from top to bottom. (Granted I may be a little bias) Thanks Shane awesome video and great to meet you and hang out at MJbiz.
What if we hung it at the top and set it to red/far red? And treat it as a complement to the spectrum in the flowering phase? Does that make any sense?
That is totally logical and will work, 660nm and 730nm red can actually penetrate really well through the leaves so you depending on the depth of your canopy adding the light from below will bulk your lower buds and supplement the top buds at the same time, as is above is below (shout out to A and B on the 1 year anniversary of the Miami Mall inter-dimensional time space portal they ripped open).
yes, yes,yes! thank you shane. i ve waited for this! great job! Can you name anyone in europe actually selling these??? cause i cant find them only over the big pond..
@@johnwayne122 I disagree. ICL has a much wider angle of light distribution, which the ones you ve mentioned not have and therefore these make no sense for that task at hand. spectrum isnt neglectable when you factor in what far reds and so forth can do for your energy bill.
Supply and demand, hype, marketing, trying to get a much as possible for a product before the price drops. It'll go down, or at least other companies will make them cheaper. It's not really a scam, the lights do work, do help produce more product, but atm high price and not gonna be crazy more production. The word scam is way over used.
I've been thinking of experimenting with led filament bulbs, I can get them for £5 for 13w. Get an upright table lamp and put it on the floor between the plants.
I like the ac infinity side bar lights, theyve def helped me get less larfy buds, especially when u have a tent packed wall to wall with plants, I’m only using a 150w light for my top light tho so idk if I’d use them if I had more space and a stronger light
Definetly dont need those you just need to defoliate my friend grows 3 pound plants with 17 lux and growers choice lights no under or side lightning shown on my old livestreams here in Michigan
Shane, based what you said near the end of this video, adding 2 of these (300 watts) in a 4x4 tent with 500 watts of above canopy lighting. That's an increase in power consumption of 60%. I read in the comments where you stated a realistic increase in yoeld would be 5 to 10%. 😂😂😂😂😂
@randylayhee3018 I am no longer growing so the only reason I care is simple curiosity. That certainly won't stop me from stating my opinion.lol. My guess is the % of benefit realized is going to vary based on the amount of above canopy lighting. If you are maxing the above canopy lighting the % is going to be low. If your above lighting is weak then the % will be higher. I did do an experiment on this many years ago, pre LED, purely by accident. I was growing small plants horizontally in a chamber that I made that consisted of 4, 4ft. fluorescent tunes situated s above the plants. That was 1 2 tube shop light. I used another shop light that I dis-assembled and mounted low, under the plants, one on each side. Anyway, I left for a week leaving a friend to care for my plants. When I returned the lights above the plants had come unplugged and not working. The leaves on the plants had twisted around trying to get the tops turned toward the light. This makes me believe that the tops of the leaves are more photo receptive than the bottoms, making the tops more efficient. Anyway, the experiments that are sure to follow will be interesting.
Not going to lie, but these things look awesome and I'm sure will do the job BUT .......And I hear their products are awesome from people I know who have them. But..... ranging from $125-195 EACH light and ONLY sold in increments of 2 and MUST buy ALL other accessories (power cables, stands or any type of controls) separate ? Kinda laughable tbh. Nah, I'll just continue to use/make my own versions of under-canopy multi-spectrum (5000k, 3000k, 660 fr and 730 IR) controllable lights in the form of different LEDs. Been using them for about 5 runs now, definitely makes the lower flower and the "smalls" have better potency and improves density. In my personal anecdotal experiences.
Under canopy is a waste of time. I run a LUMATEK 600w canopy light , with 4 x MARS SP 3000 side lighting at 75% and I’m pulling 50% more yields 4-5 pounds . I’ve ran and tested under canopy was gaining 5-10% maybe 😂 Don’t bother with under canopy side lighting is absolutely imperative.
Curious as to what you produce/manufacture for a small 2/2 area and autos? My nephew grew some autos using soil, and a ~150 watt led. No far red/uv, but great results. I have some 1000 watt devices/far red:UVA/B, and experience w/older HPS lights. Way overkill for growing a few autos in a 2x2. Only requirement is on 24/7, for the complete run. Thanks. 🫶✨🕊️♾️
get a bigger tent. also.. most math says 2x2 PER PLANT so why youd be growing "a few" of them in a 2x2 is beyond me. 2x2 is basically just those 1x1 light panels and the 4 inch ducting and fans, theres really not room to have loads of gear in a 2x2 space (also not much room for big plants..). dont get me wrong, its nice to have for when im treating the plants with sts solution so the pollen doesnt end up on the ladies, but im not trying to grow a huge plant in the first place if im just growing it for pollen.
I use under canopy for 3 runs in my tent now and I will never go back without them. More light from above just don’t give you the enhanced quality and quantity of flower that under does. It’s not a game changer but it’s an improvement that pays itself in no time. As for toplights, the quantity is more important than the actual light spectrum.
Place lights on the sides and it's way more efficient than mounting them on the floor.
@ in a tent? Where branches and flowers touch the sides? That aside I would have to use at least 2 instead of 1 under. That doesn’t sound more efficient to me
@johnwayne122 side lights are much more productive than floor mounted lights. If you managed your tent properly then side lighting is extremely productive and you don't need much extra wattage just the correct spectrum to compliment the main light/lights. Twisting leafs is a common problem with floor mounted lighting because photosynthesis occurs via the leafs top surface and not it's underside. This is simply not as good for the plant as light coming from the sides and from above. I have tried using both methods and it really is very obvious what the plants find easier to convert.
what lights are you using?
@@Chris-zu4es Samsung Osram SMD-Board Flower Board EVO V2. One 1m /3ft I run 4 with meanwell hlg240H. Draws actual 250w in a 5x2,5ft tent it increases the performing canopy depth from 60cm and to +100cm. I was super Skeptical at first but now I am a believer.
I had an unused Mars Hydro SP3000 that I used for undercanopy in my 5X5 hung upside down and facing up across my tent and it made a noticeable difference in nug size and quality from the lowers. My next run, I was using the SP3000 in another tent and did not use any undercanopy lighting and realized what I was missing, so recently picked up a number of Mars FC-1500 lights to hang upside down for under-canopy lighting. I only wish those lights were removable from the bars themselves to make positioning them closer.
Mate hang them on the sides at 75% trust me you with thank me 🤙🏽
I have two old Mars SP150's - one I use for front side lighting my 3x3 and it gets right through to the back.Nugs have never been better👍
I have always used under canopy lights since the early 1980s. After my first. My previous years were always growing outdoor.. 1980 I moved to indoors and a combination outdoors. I noticed how indoors the lower branches suffered greatly with bad development so I stuck lights down on the ground facing upwards from underneath at a 45° angle.
And I got butt development as if it was the top crown of the plant on the lower branches drastically increasing my yield per cubic foot of canopy.
i want to see the growpros vs faven vs Craft Farmer under canopy lights review! all side by side to see which company is really the best. have you reviewed those other ones yet?
Me too!
Might find them more useful as supplemental side lighting. That way, you get benefits of under canopy and side lighting.
Thanks, Shane. It's good to have options.
how long till full spectrum led christmas lights and baubles... they would be everywhere you want canopy wise
Thanks for ur reviews and amazing video’s
I thought that plants don't take light from there under side leaves !?just spend more money ! Good light ,good ventilation, good medium and good seed thats it . And green fingers
I use under canopy for 3 runs in my tent now and I will never go back without them. More light from above just don’t give you the enhanced quality and quantity of flower that under does. It’s not a game changer but it’s an improvement that pays itself in no time. As for toplights, the quantity is more important than the actual light spectrum.
There's this new thing called scientific experimentation
@@thomascross8339 and still we are having people believing in flat earth. You better do the experiment yourself and see if it’s worth for you.
@@johnwayne122 interesting there was only a tiny percentage of people even saying that before the internet made it possible to spread misinformation on a mass scale. That's what I am hoping to do brother. The point was things change in science and what was true yesterday may not be true today.
These light companies just thinking of different ways to make money there not real growers if they were they would know you dont need that garbage my friend grows 3 pound plants without that bullshit lol these guys using under lights cant even get those numbers lol
Fair play all the idiots in these comments who make assumptions. Why dont you try things before you state your expert opinions? Ive been running under canopy for 2 years. The FACTS from my experience are. More watering and dehu needed. Increased overall yield by 30%. No more lows and tops. Just tops all the way thru. Master your craft guys jheeeze. Yes they are over priced. But loke everything in thos game. If you know what youre doing, youll earn it back the first run
What I always wondered is the perfect distance for under/intra canopy lights? If we put such strong lights too close to the plants will they not get damaged by light-intensity/ temperature? Therefore I thought I will add weaker under-canopy lights, to not have to worry about this. Because as a non commercial grower in a small tent, a plant could easyly touch the intra-canopy lights.
Thanks for this interesting test and your awesome content!
I wondered the same.
Mammoth has some that they say contain no red diodes, just white and blue, and that red diodes are the ones that cause burns. I don't know if this is true or not, but in my experience i would lean to yes.
Eg.. some strains get more yellow sooner with a red-heavy spectrum.
That said, if any light is too bright it will burn, I'm just not sure on various spectrums, except of course UV.
@@wilhelm8735 I blast under with 250w on 4 smd boards on 3 feet and I got flowers as close as 5in or 12cm without any signs of photobleaching or heat issues and a penetration of 25 inch /50cm
LEDs run cool enough, so physical burning is unlikely.and most tropical/ high altitude plants will only light burn if touching the source.
@@MisterNotSpanish many LED lights turned up to 100% and lowered too close to the tops WILL burn. I've used several brands, and have seen bleached and burned tops on all of them if it gets too close.
Some lights and some strains more than others, of course.
Have you even used LED grow lights?
@ why would you put 100+ watts right next to a plant? You are literally confirming what I just said
These have me wondering about targeting different spectrums at different parts/heights of the plant. Can I keep super tight internodal spacing with lots of blue from below? Can I cause more stretch with far red below? Do I want to do any of that? Are there other things to mess about with? INB4 someone tells me I can just google it as it's all be figured out already.
Those might be controversial for cannnabis gains, but for tropical houseplants seems amazing. For 200 usd to be able to adjust spectrum and thus steer if i want more anthocyamins or more other pigments? Amazing! I will be using these as my main lights.
What are the studies on these are they benefial or a waste of electricity?
We used a similar product for the last 2 grows, I will say it does firm up and eliminate popcorn/larf from under the canopy. I don’t know about 15-20% more yield but definitely 5-10% in improving overall quality. 95% top shelf product.
Our were 100 watt per in between each row in 4x8 used 6 total combined with x4 430 watt top lights and supplemental 390-420nm blue and 680nm red at 60 each set x4 for 2560 watt potential but only run everything between 40-60% which covers PPFD, DLI, Temperature parameters. The plants were a little shorter and more stocky than usual. Will continue to use them.
im betting its similar to the "studies" that have been saying women can have penises...
Here s a link to a study of the benefits: th-cam.com/video/QdCUQv3XCPo/w-d-xo.html
More light will increase uniformity and work the same as using a stronger light without putting extra stress on the tops if you are pushing them hard already. The bottom of leaves if only a tiny bit photosensitive so I do not think sticking them on the floor is the way but around the sides of the tent at the C bud level would be sweet. There are 3 studies if you look, at least two have corporate sponsors and no disclaimer for conflicts, and one is from a pretty TH-cam-famous researcher that noted some growth but also negatives if you use too much.
For my 3x3 tents I've been using mars hydro VG-40 strip lights for under canopy lighting. They go for about $60 when on sale. They're only 40 watts per pair but they definitely make a noticeable difference in the quality of lower nugs. It's saves me tons of time trimming larf which I absolutely hate. They come with clear plastic covers to protect from water but I can just pull mine out of my tents in a few seconds so I don't really need to worry about them getting wet.
The best on the market so far
where is the proof of concept? would like to know more about that!
@@patrickkramer5353just take a chance. What do you want, training wheels?
Thanks for the Presentation 🙏
Do you have the light stands at their lowest setting in the video?
Yes they are at their lowest setting. The base is stainless steel, just a few mm, the upright is around 30cm, the light is 9.3cm tall, so lowest setting around 39cm, adjust up to about 55cm.
@@chucky3232 Thank you
I'm all for under/intercanopy lighting, the debate is over for me. The only set back is the width spread on these units, based on the chart reading provided these lights in particular have an incredible 1 foot width spread along with 4 feet of lenghth of optimal added light to really give the plants that boost for growth up and down the canopy if done correctly with light intensity adjustment. Now with that information, it is really on the individual to make an educated decision whether or not this is ideal for their set up/garden. The tools are provided if you choose to incorporate.
For a homegrower id rather start another tent for the same price and better outcome theres no way 100w under will yield more then using 100wat over but rhats room dependent i may try my old ts600 underneath ny budroom when i upgrade my veg clone room tho all good fun
Use it as side lighting - much better! I use an old Mars SP150 pointing in and it gets right to the back👍
100w light, tent cost, fans, ac, etc will draw significantly more electricity - but the real savings are in the time invested in lolipoping, the time saved on no longer having any larf C buds to have to trim. With the UCL4 you can Emerson effect and shave off a week from your flowering cycle. With the UCL3 you will be amazed at the color expression, terp profile, and evenness of the maturity of your flower from top to bottom. (Granted I may be a little bias) Thanks Shane awesome video and great to meet you and hang out at MJbiz.
What if we hung it at the top and set it to red/far red? And treat it as a complement to the spectrum in the flowering phase? Does that make any sense?
That is totally logical and will work, 660nm and 730nm red can actually penetrate really well through the leaves so you depending on the depth of your canopy adding the light from below will bulk your lower buds and supplement the top buds at the same time, as is above is below (shout out to A and B on the 1 year anniversary of the Miami Mall inter-dimensional time space portal they ripped open).
yes, yes,yes! thank you shane. i ve waited for this! great job! Can you name anyone in europe actually selling these??? cause i cant find them only over the big pond..
I don't think they sell them outside the US but you should contact them directly to find out.
any single light bar will do the job. Get some used sanlight s4w, lumatek Zeus single or whatever. the spectrum is neglectable.
@@johnwayne122 I disagree. ICL has a much wider angle of light distribution, which the ones you ve mentioned not have and therefore these make no sense for that task at hand. spectrum isnt neglectable when you factor in what far reds and so forth can do for your energy bill.
@@MIGROLIGHT growbros doesnt deliver to europe.. never mind! still awesome work as allways!
@ wider spread = shallower penetration
how tf are brands splitting a normal grow light into 4-5 pieces and then charging the same amount for 1/5 of a light?????
these are way overpriced
It's all a con
Supply and demand, hype, marketing, trying to get a much as possible for a product before the price drops.
It'll go down, or at least other companies will make them cheaper.
It's not really a scam, the lights do work, do help produce more product, but atm high price and not gonna be crazy more production.
The word scam is way over used.
I've been thinking of experimenting with led filament bulbs, I can get them for £5 for 13w. Get an upright table lamp and put it on the floor between the plants.
Are the cables and Plugs from Wieland?
Just adding more heat and expense to your grow for little to no gain
But some people need to add heat anyway, least it pays for itself this way
I like the ac infinity side bar lights, theyve def helped me get less larfy buds, especially when u have a tent packed wall to wall with plants, I’m only using a 150w light for my top light tho so idk if I’d use them if I had more space and a stronger light
Thank you.
3 channel look superb…but 200$ 4ft is a high price point
They are both dual channel lights. In other words these are two different 2 channel lights.
mars hydro ad-lights is cheaper. maybe not as strong but
Definetly dont need those you just need to defoliate my friend grows 3 pound plants with 17 lux and growers choice lights no under or side lightning shown on my old livestreams here in Michigan
Brabo de mais !
Me personally fuck all that 😂😂😂😂
Amazing looking but not sure I need this 🎉🎉🎉
Shane, based what you said near the end of this video, adding 2 of these (300 watts) in a 4x4 tent with 500 watts of above canopy lighting. That's an increase in power consumption of 60%. I read in the comments where you stated a realistic increase in yoeld would be 5 to 10%. 😂😂😂😂😂
From what I’ve heard people are seeing yield increases around 25-30% on average with some people seeing as much as a 50% increase in yield
@randylayhee3018 I am no longer growing so the only reason I care is simple curiosity. That certainly won't stop me from stating my opinion.lol. My guess is the % of benefit realized is going to vary based on the amount of above canopy lighting. If you are maxing the above canopy lighting the % is going to be low. If your above lighting is weak then the % will be higher.
I did do an experiment on this many years ago, pre LED, purely by accident. I was growing small plants horizontally in a chamber that I made that consisted of 4, 4ft. fluorescent tunes situated s above the plants. That was 1 2 tube shop light. I used another shop light that I dis-assembled and mounted low, under the plants, one on each side. Anyway, I left for a week leaving a friend to care for my plants. When I returned the lights above the plants had come unplugged and not working. The leaves on the plants had twisted around trying to get the tops turned toward the light. This makes me believe that the tops of the leaves are more photo receptive than the bottoms, making the tops more efficient.
Anyway, the experiments that are sure to follow will be interesting.
Is my tv upside down?
Slick ✅
A new give away on the cards…winner must give feedback on performance 😂
Just somthing i can't get behind. Not gonna do it.
Not going to lie, but these things look awesome and I'm sure will do the job BUT .......And I hear their products are awesome from people I know who have them. But.....
ranging from $125-195 EACH light and ONLY sold in increments of 2 and MUST buy ALL other accessories (power cables, stands or any type of controls) separate ? Kinda laughable tbh.
Nah, I'll just continue to use/make my own versions of under-canopy multi-spectrum (5000k, 3000k, 660 fr and 730 IR) controllable lights in the form of different LEDs. Been using them for about 5 runs now, definitely makes the lower flower and the "smalls" have better potency and improves density. In my personal anecdotal experiences.
Side lighting yes but under the canopy pointing upwards is ridiculous.
I think this is good maybe now we don't need to lollipop 🍭 the plants 🤔
Why do I feel like you are attempting to sell these for them? C'mon man
why wouldnt u just spend less and get lights and flip them lol
I do not like this idea. I bet the plant doesn't know what way is up.
Under canopy is a waste of time.
I run a LUMATEK 600w canopy light , with 4 x MARS SP 3000 side lighting at 75% and I’m pulling 50% more yields 4-5 pounds .
I’ve ran and tested under canopy was gaining 5-10% maybe 😂
Don’t bother with under canopy side lighting is absolutely imperative.
More crap...
Curious as to what you produce/manufacture for a small 2/2 area and autos?
My nephew grew some autos using soil, and a ~150 watt led. No far red/uv, but great results.
I have some 1000 watt devices/far red:UVA/B, and experience w/older HPS lights. Way overkill for growing a few autos in a 2x2.
Only requirement is on 24/7, for the complete run.
Thanks.
🫶✨🕊️♾️
get a bigger tent. also.. most math says 2x2 PER PLANT so why youd be growing "a few" of them in a 2x2 is beyond me. 2x2 is basically just those 1x1 light panels and the 4 inch ducting and fans, theres really not room to have loads of gear in a 2x2 space (also not much room for big plants..). dont get me wrong, its nice to have for when im treating the plants with sts solution so the pollen doesnt end up on the ladies, but im not trying to grow a huge plant in the first place if im just growing it for pollen.