Phogoth is the reason I started playing Destiny. Right before Dark Below came out I was at a friends house and saw him play the strike. That same day I got all the money I had saved up and went to GameStop to buy Destiny. They even gave me a Dark Below poster which I had hung up in my room until earlier this year when my cat tore it down. Hive Ogres are one of my favorite designed enemies.
I remember doing a patrol on Savathun's Throne World where Immaru said that a new Ogre was leading some squad of Hive on a mission. The player, of course, goes to kill it. I thought it was weird that an ogre was in charge, 'cause I always thought they were mindless killing machines. I guess it makes sense that they have heightened cunning too, then.
What’s deadly is the Rise of Iron strike where a Devil Splicer experiments on an ogre effectively blinding it and turning its eye into a gun while able to control the damned thing. Those were some ooommmph nightfalls.
They’re genuinely triggering. Maybe because of the rate at which the blasts come out, but in harder content, it feels like looking at a ogre means certain danger. Couple that with a void threat modifier, and you’re pretty much looking at certain death at times. Especially if caught out in the open.
@@twilso12 do ogres look like acolytes? No. Do ogres look like knights? No. Do ogres look like witches/wizards? No. The only hive rank they resemble is a Thrall because they are thralls that have been mutated by witches/wizards. Acolytes don't resemble thralls, knights don't resemble thralls, witches/wizard don't resemble thralls. They all look completely different except ogres and thralls "Smarty." Every Hive is under the control of some hive god except ogres because they're just extremely angry THRALLS.
@@twilso12Wow, you need to reread that statement again, then read it once more. They're literally saying Ogres look like Thrall because they are mutated thrall. Some people on TH-cam are a special kind of dumb
@@adopted6716my head cannon is that the knights and wizards just bully the thrall until he goes to the gym. I know thats not the case, but I find it funny.
Damn I still remember seeing Phogoth for the first time. Was such a terrifying experience since I was jumping around the pillars trying not to be anywhere near the ground. Then I tried the Phogoth Nightfall and realized how scary he can really be.
Fun fact: the scorn abominations are actually dregs Looks like I started a fight in the comments for simply trying to tell a fun fact not everyone knows about. I didn't know about it atleast
Pretty sure golgorath was also the only ogre in all destiny lore to actually speak at all. (Could be wrong on that, need to catch up on my lore books,) In some of the court of oryx stories golgorath is confirmed speaking to oryx with pretty clear speech in some parts.
I remember a old lore card talking about their creation Basically as part of their torture they are fed light but also tortured with it, kind of like a hardcore drug addict may hate the thing they are addicted to but are still addicted to it Ogres are basically tortured with their food, which is why they hate giardians so much: walking food that hits back and is the entire reason they exist in the form they do
This actually sorta answered my question about the sentience of the hive in general. Like I didn't know if most of them were a sorta "Hive mind" like the name, or more independent. As someone who isn't a huge destiny lore person its interesting to know that even a thrall can have its own worm
@@twilso12I think you need to learn what a metaphor is but you are right about the teaching us how the Destiny Universe works. It was lore from the Taken King that’s resurfaced is all.
The crazy thing I learned a long time ago is that, the purple attack they do isn't actually a beam or physical attack, it's the ogre actually staring at you to death.
It would be cool to see their uncontrollable rage in game. Imagine ogres just ripping through knights and thrall to get at us. Thrall, thrall flying everywhere!😂
kept in darkness from youth, conditioned to hate the Light, and subject to a life where all they know is pain, confusion, and rage. No wonder they hit like a mac truck
I always believed that it was Thrall to Acolyte to Wizard/Knight, and if the thrall failed to satiate their worm, they'd become cursed thralls, and if they fail to die from that, go further to Ogres.
So is it a Hulk situation, where they grow larger and stronger as their rage does? or is it just the rituals that grow them once they're already transformed?
this should have been more obvious. It was probably the giant laser some shoot out of their eye that made me think they were something entirely different than thralls.
If only there could be a finisher made specific for ogres where we take a vortex grenade, toss it into its mouth and let it swallow. Then that grenade goes off and the ogre implodes.
Morgeth is just any ordinary ogre… just addicted to pre workout… unfortunately we paper cut a vein in his arm and no amount of muscle was able to stop the bleeding
Lol reminding me of that dialogue "not even oryx can control an ogre, unless it's taken" so... Oryx can't control an ogre... unless he does the thing he does to control anything else?
Would also like to point out that the reason they hunt guardians so relentlessly is because of an extreme aversion to the Light. They just hate us that much more than everyone else.
So they evolve like hollow, thrall(fishbones), acolyte(adjuchas),knights/wizards(vasto lorde), and orges(menos grande-they even shoot laser like attacks)
So thrall evolve into acolyte. Acolyte evolve into a knight or wizard depending on what item they're holding when they level up and ogres are regional variants
The biggest Ogres, upon undergoing the most intense torture rituals, begin to have a rage that is almost as intense as that of the average pvp player
Not possible
@@christiangarizio7587I agree
An average pvp player on a good day
Instead of in D1, the big ogre in that strike under the moon roaring its just "YOU FUCKING •••••• ••• ••••••• ••••!" thru a 15$ party chat headset😂
“But will never scratch the surface of that of a League of Legends player even still.”
Phogoth is the reason I started playing Destiny. Right before Dark Below came out I was at a friends house and saw him play the strike. That same day I got all the money I had saved up and went to GameStop to buy Destiny. They even gave me a Dark Below poster which I had hung up in my room until earlier this year when my cat tore it down. Hive Ogres are one of my favorite designed enemies.
aww man why the cat gotta do that aw naww:(
@@ImGoingToFard he was the real Ogre with his rage and destruction 💀
I liked Phogoth’s strike but by god was it the worst nightfall ever, even more so with void burn because of that damn shrieker
Is the cat still alive? 😅
@@smileyfacism nah it got raid wiped 💀
I remember doing a patrol on Savathun's Throne World where Immaru said that a new Ogre was leading some squad of Hive on a mission. The player, of course, goes to kill it. I thought it was weird that an ogre was in charge, 'cause I always thought they were mindless killing machines. I guess it makes sense that they have heightened cunning too, then.
maybe it's leading as in "vanguard" just the literal head of the group
I'd assume not leading as in 'coordinating' but more so as the siege weapon, first in combat as the big distraction and killer.
That eye beam thing they do is deadly on end game content.
Deadly on any content it you get pushed into a corner
What’s deadly is the Rise of Iron strike where a Devil Splicer experiments on an ogre effectively blinding it and turning its eye into a gun while able to control the damned thing. Those were some ooommmph nightfalls.
Psiops GM flash backs 😐
They’re genuinely triggering. Maybe because of the rate at which the blasts come out, but in harder content, it feels like looking at a ogre means certain danger. Couple that with a void threat modifier, and you’re pretty much looking at certain death at times. Especially if caught out in the open.
Its especially worse for people with high frame rates
Explains why Ogres look like mutated giant thralls instead of any other hive
@@twilso12smarty?
@@twilso12 read the whole comment again "smarty"
@@twilso12 do ogres look like acolytes? No. Do ogres look like knights? No. Do ogres look like witches/wizards? No. The only hive rank they resemble is a Thrall because they are thralls that have been mutated by witches/wizards. Acolytes don't resemble thralls, knights don't resemble thralls, witches/wizard don't resemble thralls. They all look completely different except ogres and thralls "Smarty." Every Hive is under the control of some hive god except ogres because they're just extremely angry THRALLS.
@@twilso12not sure what happened in the last 20 years, but the ability to read has plummeted. It’s quite sad.
@@twilso12Wow, you need to reread that statement again, then read it once more. They're literally saying Ogres look like Thrall because they are mutated thrall. Some people on TH-cam are a special kind of dumb
Basically… big angry thrall?
Yes, but then you have to realise that they are actually intelligent
Yep an angry thrall that took pre workout
@@adopted6716my head cannon is that the knights and wizards just bully the thrall until he goes to the gym. I know thats not the case, but I find it funny.
@@TheAsylumCat Bro gets jacked to get revenge on his highschool bully
@@TheAsylumCatfor an ogre its quite LITERALY a head canon(they shoot from their heads)
Damn I still remember seeing Phogoth for the first time. Was such a terrifying experience since I was jumping around the pillars trying not to be anywhere near the ground. Then I tried the Phogoth Nightfall and realized how scary he can really be.
If I recall correctly, they're tortured using captured Light, which is what makes them so bloodthirsty and ravenous towards us especially.
Fun fact: the scorn abominations are actually dregs
Looks like I started a fight in the comments for simply trying to tell a fun fact not everyone knows about. I didn't know about it atleast
That’s clearly obvious bro lol thought he did something there ☠️
@@too_official6194I didn’t know that and why you being rude
@@too_official6194bro u think u did something lol u didn't
@@too_official6194did bro really forget that forsaken got sunset.
People clowning you but I legit didn't know the scorn used to be fallen
That moment when you size up an ogre charging its eye beam thinking you can take it (when in fact you could not take it)
Golgeroth was the only ogre that served oryx by loyalty alone
Good ogre tbh
Don’t you mean Swolgeroth?
@@decimation9780 Hahahahahaha
Pretty sure golgorath was also the only ogre in all destiny lore to actually speak at all. (Could be wrong on that, need to catch up on my lore books,) In some of the court of oryx stories golgorath is confirmed speaking to oryx with pretty clear speech in some parts.
I remember a old lore card talking about their creation
Basically as part of their torture they are fed light but also tortured with it, kind of like a hardcore drug addict may hate the thing they are addicted to but are still addicted to it
Ogres are basically tortured with their food, which is why they hate giardians so much: walking food that hits back and is the entire reason they exist in the form they do
23:03 that “O Sisters, Mine” goes so hard after all the season of the wish stuff.
Phogoth was a beast lol
Lol golgoroth would have a word he would literally 1 shot phogoth 😂😂
@@too_official6194 facts
thorn mission in d1 was fun, where you had to kill that wizzard in a bit harder phogoth strike
I have now learned more about the Hive from one Short than I have from 10 years of Destiny story telling.
Mood
That’s just because you don’t read or pay attention 💀💀 they tell this detail in destiny 1….
This is a commonly known fact, you just dont pay attention to anything.
Certified Bungie moment
Bungie's told this tale on 4 occasions, if you've been playing since launch, then you've just not being paying attention
They’re nothing compared to that giant terrifying screeb we got a tease of awhile back. 😣 Nightmares.
I remember the good old days of trying to solo the phogoth strike in order to get OG thorn.. I’ll never forget it 😢
Same
This actually sorta answered my question about the sentience of the hive in general. Like I didn't know if most of them were a sorta "Hive mind" like the name, or more independent.
As someone who isn't a huge destiny lore person its interesting to know that even a thrall can have its own worm
Unstop ogre let me introduce myself
please no
Taken overload hobgoblins are the worst
They also seem to send me into unbridled rage as well when they snipe me from 5 miles away with their fucking eye beam
Giving me flash backs, I remember running this mission so many times. Will forever love d 1
Hive Ogres gotta be the most satisfying kills for me, especially with precision hits.
An unreasonably angry hive tank
Got it
Fun fact: the wizards torture thralls by playing taylor swift music on repeat
The ogres are just chihuahuas that can back up their shit talk
I remember that Hive Ogres are Thralls that have undergone a heavy Light torture
It would be crazy if there were in-game explanations for this
@williamemiliano that's the same with a lot of games man, I mean look at elden ring, haha
@@WilliamEmiliano💀
@@twilso12I think you need to learn what a metaphor is but you are right about the teaching us how the Destiny Universe works.
It was lore from the Taken King that’s resurfaced is all.
@@WilliamEmilianoIn D1 yes, not anymore
@@jerrbear5958 All the info from Elden Ring actually exists inside Elden ring. You dont need a different game and some of the answers aren't vaulted.
Love tidbits like this - cheers man!
Always great when a unstoppable ogre smashes my face in 🤣
When a knight papa and a witch mama loves each other...
That wizard came from the moon 🗣🗣🗣
The crazy thing I learned a long time ago is that, the purple attack they do isn't actually a beam or physical attack, it's the ogre actually staring at you to death.
It would be cool to see their uncontrollable rage in game. Imagine ogres just ripping through knights and thrall to get at us. Thrall, thrall flying everywhere!😂
Now what if an ogre managed to evolve into a knight? 😂
NO NO NO WE DONT NEED A GOD TO FIGHT IN A FRICKING STRIKE NO
Also, when ritual of creating an ogre goes wrong, you get cursed thrall, so that's why they have glowing faces, jus like ogres
no wonder uncle golgy stares daggers into the souls of my fireteam
I am a major destiny Vet, but I only recently realized that ogres transform from thralls just like abominations of the scorn transform from stalkers
"Hive ogres are abominations fueled by rage." Same
I do like that in d1 ogres were way more of a threat than d2 ogres basically being thrall with a cool atack
kept in darkness from youth, conditioned to hate the Light, and subject to a life where all they know is pain, confusion, and rage. No wonder they hit like a mac truck
I'd be raged out, too, if I looked like a big walking tumor, made by crab magic
All that work and rituals and pain for me to come in with a rocket launcher and end it all in one second 😂😂
I always believed that it was Thrall to Acolyte to Wizard/Knight, and if the thrall failed to satiate their worm, they'd become cursed thralls, and if they fail to die from that, go further to Ogres.
ogres do look like jacked up thralls and that's how I thought they're mutated thralls.
Ogres are like mosquitoes: “insert your ideas about mosquitoes here”
I always saw them but never thought they would have such a strange story
Oryx: *claps hands excitably in a rhythm* Ooh it’s my birthday, what did you lovelies get me??
*Savathun and Xivu looking at each other*
Seeing phogoth gave my flashbacks of unlocking the thorn
Me: plays/watches elden ring, DRG, and Remnant 2
TH-cam: “so you like destiny 2, I see!”
Kinda makes you feel bad for them, until they non-stop eye blast you off the map
when a mommy hive ogre and a daddy hive ogre like each other very much…
Did you know that cursed thrall were made on the space station full of portals to other dimensions full of terrors
When a mommy ogres and daddy ogres love each other very much….
I really miss that nightfall/strike soooo much. Never thought I would miss those strikes I played 4mil times, but I do.
So is it a Hulk situation, where they grow larger and stronger as their rage does? or is it just the rituals that grow them once they're already transformed?
In 2090 you will have a chance at fighting these things for real
this should have been more obvious. It was probably the giant laser some shoot out of their eye that made me think they were something entirely different than thralls.
Thrall: You are not going to like it if I get angry.
Bro imagine being so angry that you cant be controlled by hive gods 😂
The Phogoth strike was so goated
never thought about but ogre just look like big thrall
Reminds me how I uses to he scares of the hive. Now there just another target
This is actually kinda interesting I didn’t know any of this until now 😅
I wonder if I’ve ever killed an acolyte who was once a thrall I left to live
I miss that Strike. D1 had some absolute bangers!
If only there could be a finisher made specific for ogres where we take a vortex grenade, toss it into its mouth and let it swallow.
Then that grenade goes off and the ogre implodes.
Hive wizard 1: Hey you wanna go torture some thrall
Hive wizard 2: Oh you sick bastard. I'm in
Id' like to think that the Osmium progeny underwent the same sequence of transformation as well. Like imagine Sav or Oryx as a thrall lol
I always thought ogres were thralls that were force fed worms until they became ogres
And yet iv never seen an ogre kill a fellow hive
So basically a Thrall Freshman being bullied by Wizard Seniors....sounds just like high school.
Morgeth is just any ordinary ogre… just addicted to pre workout… unfortunately we paper cut a vein in his arm and no amount of muscle was able to stop the bleeding
"Abominations fueled by rage." Just like me...
And Scorns are just fallen that got too high on ether
Lol reminding me of that dialogue "not even oryx can control an ogre, unless it's taken" so... Oryx can't control an ogre... unless he does the thing he does to control anything else?
We need an Ogre to evolve into a Knight or a Wizard, that would be crazy
Who remembers the 120 ft tall ogre strike
all of that torture just to be one shot by a guardian
Anyone else remember when phogoth was one of the hardest strike bosses?
To be honest, I’d rather have the ogres be mindless rage machines than actually sentient… because then they actually might be even more deadly.
Me, who thought this was a warhammer 40k video: *very confused*
Nearly shitted myself wheb I first played D1 and saw my first ever ogre
Would also like to point out that the reason they hunt guardians so relentlessly is because of an extreme aversion to the Light. They just hate us that much more than everyone else.
Dude I actually really liked the giant ogre raid
Local Ogre too angry to die.
It's the same way for Scorn Abominations, except the Abominations are Scorn Dregs hypertrophied by Dark Ether excess (correct if wrong 😉)
So ogres are children who have been brutally tortured by other members of their own species and are now very big and angry.
So they evolve like hollow, thrall(fishbones), acolyte(adjuchas),knights/wizards(vasto lorde), and orges(menos grande-they even shoot laser like attacks)
😢bring back D1 memories
I knew it. Ogers are just inflated thralls xD
Big slimy annoyance is all they are
As bad as it would be, I’d love to fight alongside a hive ogre and basically have a Goliath bodyguard
"Not even oryx can control an orgre" i wonder if thats the same for xivu arath
Fun fact: golgy from kings fall likes flowers 🌸 😊
yep known this since d1 like dark below or something. i liked the lore cards in d1
They are like onions, they have layers
I miss how dark D1 was. It felt heavy.
So thrall evolve into acolyte. Acolyte evolve into a knight or wizard depending on what item they're holding when they level up and ogres are regional variants
So basically every time we kill thrall we’re killing a baby😂
All they do is shake their heads and laser you down.