For real, NOBODY talks about what you should feel in your throat. That burning sensation was my main problem. I sound great but my throat gets dry really quick and I can't practice long. Granted, I know I could drink way more water, but I thought I was not doing it right. I listened to EVERY tutorial I could and for some reason I couldnt understand why my voice wasnt working the way theirs was. They never seemed to hurt. I did get a hoarse voice from experimentation and I have been drinking herbal tea with honey to regain it back, but I am so scared to lose my throat. I want to be able to master this but its hard when you don't have money for vocal coaches and the only way to learn is by videos.
If you want a help, you can watch a video from Italian TH-camr that teach how to scream and growl.. Unfortunately he did only two videos, but from him I learn the base of how to use false cord, and I practice all day and I never feel any pain in my throat or throat Bruning.. If you want the video is Danny metal canto estremo lezione 1. It's very helpful!
Make sure you're not drinking any cold beverages. Room-temp to warm works best for me. I've gotten to the point where I just drink warm water when practicing or warming up and it was a big help. Also, another big help for my in terms of vocal fatigue was not pushing too hard. I kept trying for too much power and too much volume from years of singing along to my stereo or acapella. Once I realized I didn't have to be so loud and I could let the mic take some of the volume burden off of me, I was able to conserve my voice and reduce fatigue and drying out a lot. One of the biggest tips I picked up from another vocal coach was to do small wiggly dance moves (small so they don't interfere with my diaphragm) with my whole body while practicing. If I wasn't able to stay wiggly, I knew I needed to relax because if my body was too tense, my vocal muscles were WAY too tense. Your body should be able to stay relaxed while vocalizing and if you can't do that, you need to re-evaluate your technique or methods. So yeah, biggest takeways from my experience: stay relaxed as much as possible, don't focus so much on volume, and don't eat or drink anything that will constrict your throat muscles, such as cold beverages.
When I do my high False Chords, I always feel that discomfort in my throat after doing it for a while. It's not painful and I do not have any issues with my voice the following day even though I ignored that discomfort and kept on screaming to Bring Me The Horizon's songs.
i've been doing it right all along. when I felt the burn/scratch at the upper back of my throat I was doing a proper fry scream. I thought I was doing it wrong, but I could still speak afterwards.
Great video! Never heard this before, and now it makes total sense! I would always shy away from practising screams and "grit singing" because I would feel that "scratchiness" and immediately be scared by it, but I never realized I didn't feel any actual pain or strain in my vocal chords, and I could speak/sing normally after, without any hoarseness. Will definitely go back to practising that now! Thanks, your videos are amazing, you definitely deserve more recognition
I've been working every day on trying to scream (and sing better too) for about a month now. I was completely stuck on fry screaming and this video helped a bunch on where to direct the air flow. Got a long way to go but this video really helped me. Thanks!
Okay, I am five years late to this, but this is soooooooo helpful and informative!! I only just got interested in growls and screams, and the scratching/itching sensation in the back of my throat made me absolutely paranoid (I come from classical, where everything makes you paranoid about hurting your voice). I still have a lot to practice, but this video made me feel like I am not a total idiot and that I can psychologically chill a bit. :D
Wow, this just might be the most helpful video I've seen on this topic! Based on your description, I might actually be doing it correctly and I didn't even know it. I definitely get that burn and tickling on the upper back of my throat...now it sounds like I need to focus on proper warm up, breathing technique and hydration ;)
recently i discovered that i been using too much air. sound a bit better compressing a much much smaller amount of air. "a little goes a long way' ? i looked into open throat, inhalare la voce, voce di strega, low larynx, glottal attack, utilizing the soft palate, and recently apoggio. 12:40 scares the shit out of me. heard horror stories
I think it's different for everybody, some people do, some people don't, but if headaches are a persistent issue, stop screaming for a bit, see a physician and make sure that it's just the screaming causing the headache (and not another more serious medical issue) and find out if it's safe to continue. You wouldn't want to burst a blood vessel somewhere! My advice cannot be substituted for that of a medical professional, but as a vocal coach I would say being warmed up is super important in helping with the headaches. Make sure you are warmed up both vocally and physically. Maybe 10-15 mins vocal warmups and a couple minutes of jumping jacks. This will dilate the blood vessels and reduce the pressure and strain on the head when we begin screaming. Transferring the effort away from the throat to the abdomen via proper breath control also helps reduce the blood pressure in the head while screaming. As in my Breathing for Screamers video.
I'd be really careful. I knew a guy (GREAT SCREAMER) whose face would turn a little flush when he would scream and a vein would pop out in his forehead. He ended up having an inoperable brain aneurysm. If you have headaches from screaming, I would stop. You could be causing the vessels in your brain to constrict too much.
I learned false chord by hours of torturing my parents, sister, neighbours and stranger passing by whilst I was on the bike. Fry I learned later on after seeing a singing instructor and my voice started to develop. (Dont forget boys our voice isfully grown late 30's). I'm 27 now and started on 13. But mainly was trial and error for me. Ow and being laughed at many many times.
People are talking about how they're getting massive headaches while screaming and to answer that it's simple. When you're screaming all the blood rushes to your head and causes those headaches. They stop eventually
I’d love to see a short video on what you think Jon Mess does differently to reach his high pitched fry scream. I would guess he uses his soft pallet 95% of the time while shaping his mouth for pitch. Just a guess idk what I’m talking about.
What's weird for me is I find the distorted sound helps me access higher ranges vocally. I just add a little bit to singing. But the placement seems great for upper registers. It helps me avoid strain it seems like quite a natural position for me which is weird? Just when I try to place it higher it's really hard to not have any distorted noise but the sensation is not to do with my vocal chords it just seems the natural result of me singing in those ranges. Which isn't ideal because I really want full control. Especially when I'm about to start doing lessons I know the vocal coach is going to be on my back about it. But this video was great for explaining these sensations.
I'm a Tibetan throat singer; but my burning and sore throat is in my bronchial tube area because I scream and it resonates in my chest. That can't be normal right? I really want to be a screamer :(
Ηi! I have managed to sing completely distorted, extremely loudly, breathing from the diaphragm and feeling the right kind of scratching. But i can't transform that to screaming. Any clues?
Have you tried my tutorials on "How to False Cord" scream? It's the one everyone says I look like a "floating head" in, haha. But it's a good place to start. I always start my screamers with false cord because it's the easiest one to get. Try that one first then move on to fry from there
I beg to differ about not being able to control my diaphragm, I learned to control it while I was swimming competitively. You can control it, it's just complicated to locate them, to know what you have to control
Ok, this is weird, when I false cord ( I prefer false cord, can get gutturals from my falsetto effortlessly..lol) after a while my nose runs a bit..lol. I feel the tingling and warmth, and also feel a warmth in my cheeks. There's no damage though cause I can slide up and hit falsettos and also belt with no issue... The runny nose is just weird though...lol.
Hey, first of all - your videos are great and informative (unlike most of "vocal teacher" channels these days) :) . I just wonder how close is your screaming (especially open-throat one) to the growling? I am self-taught in growling (it was years ago) and where I feel vibrations is mostly the bottom of my sternum. I keep the throat completly open as well and I just wonder where the difference comes from.
What's the difference there? Have you figured out how to sing FFDP songs? I'm trying to learn how to do that, I love their songs and want to be able to sing them
So should you ignore the burning, scratchy sensation at the back of your throat and just keep practicing? I'm just beginning to develop a high false chord scream and I feel like I'm making decent progress with my sound, but I certainly feel some burning in the soft palette area.
Okay so I am a total beginner. I know I'm not doing anything with my throat, but it does start to feel funny after a while of trying around with the false cord, but not in my throat, just where the false cords are supposed to be. Is that what's supposed to happen and I'm just supposed to do just a little bit each day until it doesn't feel funny? EDIT: Hadn't watched the whole video, point still stands. Does the "burning" (described previously as "feeling funny") go away?
I know this is a very late comment but it been bothering me for a while now. When I scream I feel a vibrating/rattling feeling in the top part of my throat which I assume is the slight burn sensation. Also after 15+ minutes of screaming the sides of my neck start to tighten up and my neck feels stiff. I'm not sure if this is an "ok" feeling to have. I also have no raspiness after screaming/harsh vocals and I just want to get to the bottom of this. I also thought it would be a good idea to get some other people's opinions. Thanks!
Sorry if this one is a little bit gross... I produce caseum when I false chord. Is that normal? And also, how to know if I'm using my false chords or my epiglottis when screaming? Thank you very much
Hi! It's been a while since i've seen you upload, just wanted to thank you because i learned to scream (False cord) pretty easily with your videos :D On a sidenote, i have two questions: 1. I recently learned to do the false cord scream, and it keeps getting better and stronger, but i can't seem to do really deep death growls like Johan Hegg from Amon Amarth or Mikael Ackerfelt of Opeth, is it a matter of having a deep voice, or just technique and placement? 2. I have practiced for almost 3 months now the fry scream, but i don't seem to be getting anywhere. I do the basic fry noise, and then i can bring it up to 2 places, i feel the first one just in the joker line (Kinda where the Uvula is but a little bit lower, maybe at the height of the tongue but i feel it coming from the back part of the throat) and i think this is the correct place even though it sounds sort of restrained (But that might be me adding muscles that shouldn't be added, i'm not using the vocal cords, that's all i know) and the second one is even higher, and almost nasal, my question is, once i have "mastered" the basic grudge sound, and bring it up to the place where it should be, do i just push with my Diaphragm, try to slowly open my throat, or what? I have seen your fry screaming videos a thousand times but i always get lost in the "Bring the basic sound up" part, not 'cause of you, it's just that i don't know how to turn the basic sound into noise, do i use the false cord along with the fry while pushing with the diaphragm? Thank you very much!
Deadwing arash m Hey guys a lot of questions like these I can't answer without hearing you in a lesson setting. I can't tell what is happening from descriptions. I can make personal adjustments in lessons based on what i am hearing. When I am talking sbout bringing the sound "up" I am literally using my mental pictures to do that. You visualize it going in a direction in your mind and it will go there, or it should. Easier said than done though! If you are interested in lessons email me at voicehacks@gmail.com for rates and scheduling. Good Luck!
Hey! So i have a strange(?) question. I developed the ability to inhale scream as a young kid and have refined it to sound fairly good over the years, however i keep hearing inhaling is BAD BAD BAD. now attempting to transfer to exhale fry screaming i cannot produce enough power to get more than a very airy crackle-- like, the tone is there... the sound grits up but not enough to get that "RAUGH" effect-- there's a constant clean, quiet falsetto note between the "crackles" and it totally falls apart trying to form words. are we utilizing different muscles to do this and/or do i not have enough diaphragm muscle to pump out that level of ferocity? sorry for the confusing question, rock on \m/
i have a question. So if you are not using your vocal chords while screaming how can you adjust the note then ? Or how do you influence the tone in general ? I mean that is important to know when actually attempting to scream a song.
So I’ve been screaming for the past 4 ish years and I sound alright but when you feel that movement in your throat when you growl what is that like what’s happening
Your video answered some of my questions about what I should feel, but I have a question about what would cause the backside of my tonsils feel "raw" after maybe 20 min's of practicing just a basic dog "ruff" then extending it exhale scream and sigh to basic exhale scream. I know it isn't my vocal chords cause of the where the pain and I took an extra step to touch my tonsil before practicing and after and it is the tonsil. It doesn't affect my talking voice just starts to hurt after half an hour practicing. thank you
It's likely just the friction in the tissues that I discuss above. Many people feel this sensation "lingering" after they are finished for a little bit. But if you are having sharp or aching pains, see a physician. Don't ignore pain! Also, I don't have tonsils and had them removed prior to screaming, so I can't really say for sure how they should or shouldn't feel. If they are painful after screaming your physician might have another reason why that needs to be treated (infection etc). I would imagine infected or slightly ill tonsils might react differently to the friction of the air during distorted vocals. If you're not sure, always, always see a physician. My advice is not a substitute for your doctor's. Best of luck!
With more practice does this go away? Like is there a tolerance to the vibration that I need to build up in my tonsil area? Cuz I have the same problem
@@voicehacksI have no tonsils BUT I do feel scratch where they were! Glad to know it's not bad. I totally ended up feeling the "uh oh, scratchy, scary! I'm gonna just yell now" and got done, and was real raspy and horse! Cleared my throat and it was fixed, stopped everything and am eating soup now lol
Hello! Should I feel vibrations over my Adam's apple when I touch it while fry screaming? Might be a stupid question but I'm new to screaming! Thank you :)
I feel irritation beneath my adams apple right above my collarbones and a little bit of that right behind my adams apple. So I must be doing something very wrong. (?) Edit: basically my throat feels very dry and a little sore after half an hour of practice. I do this for about a week or so...
I'm looking for how to sing with grit like hair metal bands like Cinderella and Mötley Crüe but I keep just running into things like how to fry scream and like heavy metal or screamo, there's got to be a difference in method right?
Hi! I think these two videos will answer your questions about that style of singing: "How to sing with Grit or Rasp:" th-cam.com/video/LXr93eQN1nY/w-d-xo.html and "Vocal Fry" vs "Fry Scream" Vs "Singing w/grit or rasp": th-cam.com/video/vLQZL9kJLSg/w-d-xo.html
I'm really wishing to be able to scream kinda like Jared Warth from blessthefall. But whenever I try to learn how to do it, I feel like Im doing it wrong as I don't know if I'm damaging my vocal chords or not.
I have a problem doing this, i totally nail it when I'm doing it quietly but when i go higher i still have some of that fry screaming voice but there's something in my throat that just taints the sound and eventually makes the whole thing stop it's something raspy like vocal fry and i don't know how to get rid of that although i use my diaphragm to do the screaming what is my problem related to?
Got a question: I'm having some trouble with combining clean singing with compression at the front of the face (as you described in one of your other videos) and false-cord screaming. When I scream, it kind of feels scratchy even afterwards and a bit like a sore throat - mind you I've only been doing it for a few weeks - and if I want to "position" my voice in the front of my face, it's kind of a challenge since my throat feels a tad swollen from the screaming, don't know how to explain it better. Does this swelling and mild soreness mean that I'm doing some actual damage to my throat, or will this go away with practice and I'll be able to position my resonance as I need?
Can we put it this way; The rock singers' tissues related with sound creation who do the distortion corectly get use to that concept...just like the finger tips of a professional electric or acoustic guitar player...If that is the case, my conclusion will be to reach that point gradually by consistent vocal work out to avoid injuries..like in body building:))I wonder your comment..Do we have to feel the things you explain in your vid..everytime we try..o we get use to those..
is it ok if i feel pressure in my chest when i try false chord screams? my throat doesn't hurt at all and my voice sounds the same both before and after i do it.
Hey Marie Z, could you maybe check out the rapper 69 and tell me what he`s doing? :) I mean, normally even as a beginner I can distinguish between the different styles. But I really don`t get what he`s doing. It`s incredibly distorted and loud, a bit too distorted for gritty singing alone. thx in advance
Hi Mary! I've been through your Belter Series (still practicing though), and now I'm on the Screamer Series. I'm working on singing with grit first and then I'd like to get into screaming. Around 9:20 you talk about the sensation felt when screaming; is this same sensation felt when singing with grit? When I do it, it sounds good and I'm able to switch back to my singing voice without it feeling worn out, but there is a slight scratchiness in the back of my upper throat. Am I pushing too hard too soon or do I just need to keep practicing?
Thank you for making this video! I've always wondered about where I should feel my scream, I've heard it should be mostly in my chest, but i barely feel it there at all, it's almost entirely in the back of my throat. Is there any way to ensure my vocal folds aren't being used?
You push from your chest. That's why they say you should feel it in your chest. Screaming comes frommthe core. Lile Kevin's unvle said after getting out of prison, "say it with your chest!"
I dont know many of the keywords yet. However, i can do the fry noise, but when trying to combine with air/more power. The volume is the same. It just hurts more. What should i do to continue improving? Cuz right now i can only do the basic white noise, but without the air. Just the normal noise. Please help
This is not something I have ever heard of before! I would stop screaming and consult with your ENT doctor to see why that’s happening before continuing
Who as a screamer has the best pronunciation? I'm just getting started, but find if I force the scream less I can pronunciate better. Is that ok or should the Scream get all the power?
Underoath have really good clear pronunciation if you’re into their style. I’d check out their songs, “In Regards to Myself, “Writing on the Walls”, and “Anyone Can Dig a Hole but it Takes a Real Man to Call it Home”
This is good, actually, as long as you are in PURE noise false cord or fry screaming. Meaning, no voice or pitch or yell coming through. So if it's pure false cord or fry the larynx can, does and should move to change the sound. When we sing or yell with grit, however, we still want our neutral larynx. BUT in pure false cord and fry the only thing changing the pitch is the larynx moving up and down and it is totally safe and somewhat necessary to let it move around when making those sounds. A low larynx in a fry scream sounds like a pig squeal, if you can do it well. Also, low larynx in false cord makes it really doomy and boomy. Always imagine your distortion going up over the tongue and into the face even with the larynx down low, to keep the distortion correct. Good luck!
I know how to push with my diaphragm, but I'm not exactly sure how to control my false chords. I notice that my throat is a bit sore after trying to scream. Is that normal? I know how to sing just fine. I just can't scream and sound like crap every time lol. Is there any way of fixing this?
I don't feel that much in the bottom back of my throat is feel it up higher tho but it's still comes out as a scream..people tell me it sound like I use a tiny bit of vocals still any exercises I can use to get rid of that????
Nope, you can't get rid of it because you can't flap the tissues around to create healthy distortion and not feel it. You're feeling it in the correct place. In the top of the throat at the soft palate. That's way away from your actual vocal cords. If you don't feel the scratchiness you won't be making much distortion and you might end up hurting yourself and yelling with your vocal cords, actually. Try alternating full distortion screams with whispers to take the voice out of it.
So should it feel like a fake soar throat when you're doing it? Like I feel scratchiness in the soft pallet and the hangy thing area but not down in my throat. Lol.
I also know how to do inhales and I'm actually good at those. The false chords are above the vocal chords so are those what I'm using to inhale scream? lol I know these are probably stupid questions but I've listened to everything from avenged sevenfold to carnifex for years now but have never gotten down how to scream. I've also heard that my throat is not supposed to hurt at all after but after I scream my throat feels sore so is there anything I can do to avoid that?
So, I am with the viewer below vvv inhale screaming is something you should avoid. You should learn to make the low "toilet bowl' or "pig squeal" sounds (ex. Suicide Silence etc) with low fry instead. Inhale is dangerous because the tissues in the wind pipe, including the actual vocal cords aren't meant or designed to withstand suction. So, when we apply suction to regular tissues, like the surface of your actual skin, we see what happens. In a hickey, for example, it causes blood vessel breakage and bruising. This is really easily done and the skin on your body is much stronger than the surface of the mucus membranes in the vocal cords. So, only mild suction can cause this type of injury. Bruising, blood vessel breakage, and vocal hemorrhaging (where they are bleeding and we taste blood). This is really dangerous and so I do not recommend continuing to inhale scream at all. This is probably why no matter what you do your throat continues to feel sore. Stop inhale screaming and learn a new technique asap! Good luck!
It is still possible to get the "tickle" in your throat from doing the false cord screaming, right? Ive always had that issue and drink a ton of room temp water regardless. Biggest issue ive had thus far is coordinating the falsetto voice with the false cord screaming. The tickle happens alot but i don't get hoarse. I suppose it's possible that theres also alot of neuron activity as well(kinda like after youve puffed ona joint and got a good hit) and you get that "pinggggg" that travels the span of the throat sometimes as far as down to the diaphragm.
Yes, so our throat should "tickle" a LOT in false cord screaming. You're using air to vibrate the false cords and soft palate and other tissues in the epiglottal funnel and it feels the most intense on pure false cord screaming. For falsetto with rasp, see my "singing with grit or rasp" tutorial. Thanks!
right on-- I was just trying to see if the chronic tickle i get is because of singing wrong-- I kinda figured it wasn't the case, just have a hypersensitive throat i suppose. Thanks-- been dl alot of your vids for assistance. I appreciate them. take care
VoiceHacks My throat feels raw/scratchy for a couple hours after practicing false cord. It doesn't hurt per se, but I was wondering if this is normal or sign I'm doing something wrong?
How can you make your voice last longer screaming? I feel like that's my problem. Like if I was in a band I would be nervous cause I would be able to go for a 45 min show
therockstar barber breath control. Breathing exercises. Stop screaming before you’re lungs are totally empty. I used to always get super light headed because of that.
i'm doing this really deep growly thing kind of feels like a fry, but it's very deep. not sure what that is, there is no voice involved. What am I doing? hahaha
Probably a low fry or gutteral. If it sounds like a crisp, dry, gravelly sound and reverberates off of your soft palate and makes your upper throat feel slightly scratchy, it's probably a low fry- especially if not a lot of air is being exhaled at one time. If it sounds more like boulders as opposed to gravel, with a slower vibrato, uses more air, and resonates deeper in your throat, it's probably a false fold growl.
Um I have a question normally fry screaming is very easy and natural for me with no pain but after doing it non stop for hours and hours my voice does start getting fatigued and some notes won't come as easy if I try to sing in a clean tone but it comes back and I can sing fine after a little bit if I warm up my clean voice although my voice feels a little tired
It’s feels like my throat is closed a bit after doing my vocals like my throat is swollen or the back of my tongue cause I use my tongue a lot in lower screams
You talk a lot about scratchy feeling, I have that back behind my uvula and in the upper back of my throat, almost up to nasal region, and after, its scratchy. But my voice never gets touched, like my voice is fine, but the top of my throat is scratchy, is that right? And how do I get past that scratchiness?
You can’t! It will always happen when you so distorted sounds. Air moving those tissues around is causing the noose and therefore it will always be scratchy feeling - you will always feel it when you shake those tissues around. You just get used to it.
i started learning to fry scream 6 days ago, i'm practicing every day and making progress. it feels fine during practice but later in the day, my throat will be slightly sore when swallowing, but i have no problem talking or clean singing. is that normal or is it a result of poor technique? btw i do scream words (not just sounds)--i try to make the first sound in a word by singing and then switch quickly to screaming the vowel sound, so it's not singing with distortion. i'm mostly trying to emulate vic fuentes, if that helps, i know he sings with compression a lot, so i do too, but i mean just the screaming parts.
Unfortunately, I can't really tell from just a description but I would discontinue anything that causes pain or strain until you see a doctor and get the all-clear. Or at the very least until a vocal coach can privately assess you to make sure that you're not causing the pain with the sound you're making. Don't continue producing any sounds that cause pain before, during or after until you've been assessed by a professional.
When i scream i feel a flapping sensation of what i think are my false chords but im not entirely sure. I have wanted to scream for a whole and after watching a quick video that just made eveything click the raspy scrapy feeling in my throat stopped happening. I want to know if for false chords screams am i supposed to feel a flapping sensation in my throat?
Has anyone experience faint feeling right after screaming? I dont feel any pain in my throat only scratchiness somewhere beneath my tongue.-- haha help pls
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For real, NOBODY talks about what you should feel in your throat. That burning sensation was my main problem. I sound great but my throat gets dry really quick and I can't practice long. Granted, I know I could drink way more water, but I thought I was not doing it right. I listened to EVERY tutorial I could and for some reason I couldnt understand why my voice wasnt working the way theirs was.
They never seemed to hurt. I did get a hoarse voice from experimentation and I have been drinking herbal tea with honey to regain it back, but I am so scared to lose my throat.
I want to be able to master this but its hard when you don't have money for vocal coaches and the only way to learn is by videos.
I can relate to your pain man. Same here.
Dude. I have the EXACTLY same problem!
use more diaphragm and open your throat more.... too much compression dry your vocals
If you want a help, you can watch a video from Italian TH-camr that teach how to scream and growl.. Unfortunately he did only two videos, but from him I learn the base of how to use false cord, and I practice all day and I never feel any pain in my throat or throat Bruning.. If you want the video is Danny metal canto estremo lezione 1. It's very helpful!
Make sure you're not drinking any cold beverages. Room-temp to warm works best for me. I've gotten to the point where I just drink warm water when practicing or warming up and it was a big help.
Also, another big help for my in terms of vocal fatigue was not pushing too hard. I kept trying for too much power and too much volume from years of singing along to my stereo or acapella. Once I realized I didn't have to be so loud and I could let the mic take some of the volume burden off of me, I was able to conserve my voice and reduce fatigue and drying out a lot. One of the biggest tips I picked up from another vocal coach was to do small wiggly dance moves (small so they don't interfere with my diaphragm) with my whole body while practicing. If I wasn't able to stay wiggly, I knew I needed to relax because if my body was too tense, my vocal muscles were WAY too tense. Your body should be able to stay relaxed while vocalizing and if you can't do that, you need to re-evaluate your technique or methods.
So yeah, biggest takeways from my experience: stay relaxed as much as possible, don't focus so much on volume, and don't eat or drink anything that will constrict your throat muscles, such as cold beverages.
I learned a bit different.
Once I started coughing up blood, that meant I was doing it wrong.
Damn bro, got the whole squad laughing.
Yup
Damn dude.
Now that is metal asf \m/
thank you for emphasizing breath control using your abdominal muscles. the diaphragm does not "push", it pulls.
yes. thank you!
Precisely! When we inhale the diaphragm is contracting to "suck" air in to the lungs. It relaxes upon exhale.
I was doing it backwards this whole time...
Your screaming tutorial was SUPER helpful, it's the only video that has ever helped me with that so thank you so much for that !
When I do my high False Chords, I always feel that discomfort in my throat after doing it for a while. It's not painful and I do not have any issues with my voice the following day even though I ignored that discomfort and kept on screaming to Bring Me The Horizon's songs.
18:10 Holly shit that looks so smooth what you´re doing with your hands xD
i've been doing it right all along. when I felt the burn/scratch at the upper back of my throat I was doing a proper fry scream. I thought I was doing it wrong, but I could still speak afterwards.
Great video! Never heard this before, and now it makes total sense! I would always shy away from practising screams and "grit singing" because I would feel that "scratchiness" and immediately be scared by it, but I never realized I didn't feel any actual pain or strain in my vocal chords, and I could speak/sing normally after, without any hoarseness. Will definitely go back to practising that now! Thanks, your videos are amazing, you definitely deserve more recognition
this is really great content, no idea how I missed your channel for so long. Thanks for this!
I have watched this video after I made some new vocal self discoveries and I always find a new meaning to it. This video is like a wisdom fountain .
How in the world did people learn how to do this before the internet? XD
Sleeping overnight in a crypt helps..
@@narcissus79 😂😂
The dude from the Pixies learned from his neighbor, if his story is to be believed. He didn't mention how his neighbor learned.
Why do you think so many older singers messed up their voice?
@@iplaysdrums Randy Blythe from lamb of god said that it just came naturally for him
I've been working every day on trying to scream (and sing better too) for about a month now. I was completely stuck on fry screaming and this video helped a bunch on where to direct the air flow. Got a long way to go but this video really helped me. Thanks!
That really helped. Thanks. Now I'm not gonna be kicked out of the band
Okay, I am five years late to this, but this is soooooooo helpful and informative!! I only just got interested in growls and screams, and the scratching/itching sensation in the back of my throat made me absolutely paranoid (I come from classical, where everything makes you paranoid about hurting your voice). I still have a lot to practice, but this video made me feel like I am not a total idiot and that I can psychologically chill a bit. :D
Wow, this just might be the most helpful video I've seen on this topic! Based on your description, I might actually be doing it correctly and I didn't even know it. I definitely get that burn and tickling on the upper back of my throat...now it sounds like I need to focus on proper warm up, breathing technique and hydration ;)
I cant say words, like I can scream but what good is it if im literally just saying "Aaaaaaaa" and cant say actual words
recently i discovered that i been using too much air. sound a bit better compressing a much much smaller amount of air. "a little goes a long way' ?
i looked into open throat, inhalare la voce, voce di strega, low larynx, glottal attack, utilizing the soft palate, and recently apoggio.
12:40 scares the shit out of me. heard horror stories
Do the headaches eventually stop happening while screaming?
I think it's different for everybody, some people do, some people don't, but if headaches are a persistent issue, stop screaming for a bit, see a physician and make sure that it's just the screaming causing the headache (and not another more serious medical issue) and find out if it's safe to continue. You wouldn't want to burst a blood vessel somewhere! My advice cannot be substituted for that of a medical professional, but as a vocal coach I would say being warmed up is super important in helping with the headaches. Make sure you are warmed up both vocally and physically. Maybe 10-15 mins vocal warmups and a couple minutes of jumping jacks. This will dilate the blood vessels and reduce the pressure and strain on the head when we begin screaming. Transferring the effort away from the throat to the abdomen via proper breath control also helps reduce the blood pressure in the head while screaming. As in my Breathing for Screamers video.
I'd be really careful. I knew a guy (GREAT SCREAMER) whose face would turn a little flush when he would scream and a vein would pop out in his forehead. He ended up having an inoperable brain aneurysm. If you have headaches from screaming, I would stop. You could be causing the vessels in your brain to constrict too much.
when i started screaming i got headaches, its because of a lackage of oxygen to the brain because your body aint used to it, it gets better
@Lukas H would be cool if u explain :D is that an inside meme in channel or something like that?
@Lukas H who cares?
I learned false chord by hours of torturing my parents, sister, neighbours and stranger passing by whilst I was on the bike. Fry I learned later on after seeing a singing instructor and my voice started to develop. (Dont forget boys our voice isfully grown late 30's). I'm 27 now and started on 13. But mainly was trial and error for me. Ow and being laughed at many many times.
People are talking about how they're getting massive headaches while screaming and to answer that it's simple. When you're screaming all the blood rushes to your head and causes those headaches. They stop eventually
Hey Mary these videos are great, thank you
I’d love to see a short video on what you think Jon Mess does differently to reach his high pitched fry scream. I would guess he uses his soft pallet 95% of the time while shaping his mouth for pitch. Just a guess idk what I’m talking about.
omg this video save my life serious, the best video about scream is the ones from voicehacks
I always enjoy your explanations.
I love your Channel! I've been looking for somebody to teach this type of stuff and explain every detail just the way you're doing. Keep it up!
What's weird for me is I find the distorted sound helps me access higher ranges vocally. I just add a little bit to singing. But the placement seems great for upper registers. It helps me avoid strain it seems like quite a natural position for me which is weird? Just when I try to place it higher it's really hard to not have any distorted noise but the sensation is not to do with my vocal chords it just seems the natural result of me singing in those ranges. Which isn't ideal because I really want full control. Especially when I'm about to start doing lessons I know the vocal coach is going to be on my back about it.
But this video was great for explaining these sensations.
I know this comment is a year old but for anyone wondering, that's your mixed voice! You can transition from that to the head voice without break!
Glad I was doing fry right
I get an icy cold sensation when I'm fry screaming, I get a very warm almost friction(y) sensation when I'm doing gutteral vocals.
When I’m screaming most of what I feel is a rumbly vibration in my chest
I'm a Tibetan throat singer; but my burning and sore throat is in my bronchial tube area because I scream and it resonates in my chest. That can't be normal right? I really want to be a screamer :(
I was steaming most off my songs. and l have corrected some off them. With professional singers advice by showing me
Ηi! I have managed to sing completely distorted, extremely loudly, breathing from the diaphragm and feeling the right kind of scratching. But i can't transform that to screaming. Any clues?
Have you tried my tutorials on "How to False Cord" scream? It's the one everyone says I look like a "floating head" in, haha. But it's a good place to start. I always start my screamers with false cord because it's the easiest one to get. Try that one first then move on to fry from there
I beg to differ about not being able to control my diaphragm, I learned to control it while I was swimming competitively. You can control it, it's just complicated to locate them, to know what you have to control
Ok, this is weird, when I false cord ( I prefer false cord, can get gutturals from my falsetto effortlessly..lol) after a while my nose runs a bit..lol. I feel the tingling and warmth, and also feel a warmth in my cheeks. There's no damage though cause I can slide up and hit falsettos and also belt with no issue... The runny nose is just weird though...lol.
Hey, first of all - your videos are great and informative (unlike most of "vocal teacher" channels these days) :) . I just wonder how close is your screaming (especially open-throat one) to the growling? I am self-taught in growling (it was years ago) and where I feel vibrations is mostly the bottom of my sternum. I keep the throat completly open as well and I just wonder where the difference comes from.
i’m still feeling it downwards and nowhere near up high
Thought the scratchiness was somethin to worry about. Now i know why i can sing multiple LOG songs in a row but one FFDP song and im done.
What's the difference there? Have you figured out how to sing FFDP songs? I'm trying to learn how to do that, I love their songs and want to be able to sing them
So should you ignore the burning, scratchy sensation at the back of your throat and just keep practicing?
I'm just beginning to develop a high false chord scream and I feel like I'm making decent progress with my sound, but I certainly feel some burning in the soft palette area.
Me too, I sound very good but I get that same sensation
Okay so I am a total beginner. I know I'm not doing anything with my throat, but it does start to feel funny after a while of trying around with the false cord, but not in my throat, just where the false cords are supposed to be. Is that what's supposed to happen and I'm just supposed to do just a little bit each day until it doesn't feel funny?
EDIT: Hadn't watched the whole video, point still stands. Does the "burning" (described previously as "feeling funny") go away?
Amazing video ! subscribed ^^
I know this is a very late comment but it been bothering me for a while now. When I scream I feel a vibrating/rattling feeling in the top part of my throat which I assume is the slight burn sensation. Also after 15+ minutes of screaming the sides of my neck start to tighten up and my neck feels stiff. I'm not sure if this is an "ok" feeling to have. I also have no raspiness after screaming/harsh vocals and I just want to get to the bottom of this. I also thought it would be a good idea to get some other people's opinions. Thanks!
I would also like to find out what that rattling feeling is, and what causes it?
Sorry if this one is a little bit gross... I produce caseum when I false chord. Is that normal? And also, how to know if I'm using my false chords or my epiglottis when screaming? Thank you very much
Are the false cords slightly open for the fry scream? Or are they completely closed like the Tibetan scream?
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Jesus dude give it a rest
Hi! It's been a while since i've seen you upload, just wanted to thank you because i learned to scream (False cord) pretty easily with your videos :D
On a sidenote, i have two questions:
1. I recently learned to do the false cord scream, and it keeps getting better and stronger, but i can't seem to do really deep death growls like Johan Hegg from Amon Amarth or Mikael Ackerfelt of Opeth, is it a matter of having a deep voice, or just technique and placement?
2. I have practiced for almost 3 months now the fry scream, but i don't seem to be getting anywhere. I do the basic fry noise, and then i can bring it up to 2 places, i feel the first one just in the joker line (Kinda where the Uvula is but a little bit lower, maybe at the height of the tongue but i feel it coming from the back part of the throat) and i think this is the correct place even though it sounds sort of restrained (But that might be me adding muscles that shouldn't be added, i'm not using the vocal cords, that's all i know) and the second one is even higher, and almost nasal, my question is, once i have "mastered" the basic grudge sound, and bring it up to the place where it should be, do i just push with my Diaphragm, try to slowly open my throat, or what? I have seen your fry screaming videos a thousand times but i always get lost in the "Bring the basic sound up" part, not 'cause of you, it's just that i don't know how to turn the basic sound into noise, do i use the false cord along with the fry while pushing with the diaphragm?
Thank you very much!
Deadwing arash m Hey guys a lot of questions like these I can't answer without hearing you in a lesson setting. I can't tell what is happening from descriptions. I can make personal adjustments in lessons based on what i am hearing. When I am talking sbout bringing the sound "up" I am literally using my mental pictures to do that. You visualize it going in a direction in your mind and it will go there, or it should. Easier said than done though! If you are interested in lessons email me at voicehacks@gmail.com for rates and scheduling. Good Luck!
Hey! So i have a strange(?) question. I developed the ability to inhale scream as a young kid and have refined it to sound fairly good over the years, however i keep hearing inhaling is BAD BAD BAD. now attempting to transfer to exhale fry screaming i cannot produce enough power to get more than a very airy crackle-- like, the tone is there... the sound grits up but not enough to get that "RAUGH" effect-- there's a constant clean, quiet falsetto note between the "crackles" and it totally falls apart trying to form words. are we utilizing different muscles to do this and/or do i not have enough diaphragm muscle to pump out that level of ferocity? sorry for the confusing question, rock on \m/
i have a question. So if you are not using your vocal chords while screaming how can you adjust the note then ? Or how do you influence the tone in general ? I mean that is important to know when actually attempting to scream a song.
Hi! So I think this video might help you: th-cam.com/video/vLQZL9kJLSgX/w-d-xo.htmlr93eQN1nY
So I’ve been screaming for the past 4 ish years and I sound alright but when you feel that movement in your throat when you growl what is that like what’s happening
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Your video answered some of my questions about what I should feel, but I have a question about what would cause the backside of my tonsils feel "raw" after maybe 20 min's of practicing just a basic dog "ruff" then extending it exhale scream and sigh to basic exhale scream. I know it isn't my vocal chords cause of the where the pain and I took an extra step to touch my tonsil before practicing and after and it is the tonsil. It doesn't affect my talking voice just starts to hurt after half an hour practicing. thank you
It's likely just the friction in the tissues that I discuss above. Many people feel this sensation "lingering" after they are finished for a little bit. But if you are having sharp or aching pains, see a physician. Don't ignore pain! Also, I don't have tonsils and had them removed prior to screaming, so I can't really say for sure how they should or shouldn't feel. If they are painful after screaming your physician might have another reason why that needs to be treated (infection etc). I would imagine infected or slightly ill tonsils might react differently to the friction of the air during distorted vocals. If you're not sure, always, always see a physician. My advice is not a substitute for your doctor's. Best of luck!
With more practice does this go away? Like is there a tolerance to the vibration that I need to build up in my tonsil area? Cuz I have the same problem
@@voicehacksI have no tonsils BUT I do feel scratch where they were! Glad to know it's not bad. I totally ended up feeling the "uh oh, scratchy, scary! I'm gonna just yell now" and got done, and was real raspy and horse! Cleared my throat and it was fixed, stopped everything and am eating soup now lol
Hello! Should I feel vibrations over my Adam's apple when I touch it while fry screaming? Might be a stupid question but I'm new to screaming! Thank you :)
why are 11 and 12 private on the screamer series?
I feel irritation beneath my adams apple right above my collarbones and a little bit of that right behind my adams apple.
So I must be doing something very wrong. (?)
Edit: basically my throat feels very dry and a little sore after half an hour of practice.
I do this for about a week or so...
Same actually, but it's just sorta itchy
Why do i always cough when i learn to scream?
Kina Five you are soing it wrong
What if I feel a tickling in my throat all the way down when trying to scream? Like where my neck meets my collar bone.
That's what I get too, I was actually coming on this video to see if that's okay.
I'm looking for how to sing with grit like hair metal bands like Cinderella and Mötley Crüe but I keep just running into things like how to fry scream and like heavy metal or screamo, there's got to be a difference in method right?
Hi! I think these two videos will answer your questions about that style of singing:
"How to sing with Grit or Rasp:" th-cam.com/video/LXr93eQN1nY/w-d-xo.html
and
"Vocal Fry" vs "Fry Scream" Vs "Singing w/grit or rasp": th-cam.com/video/vLQZL9kJLSg/w-d-xo.html
Ok thank you
But how to trigger the other tissues you mentioned?
I can do the tiniest fry and false cord noises, but I can’t feel anything of the tissues.
I'm really wishing to be able to scream kinda like Jared Warth from blessthefall. But whenever I try to learn how to do it, I feel like Im doing it wrong as I don't know if I'm damaging my vocal chords or not.
Could you please raise your volume on this video?
My apologies for the low level, it was my first live stream and I will definitely up the gain for the next video!
I have a problem doing this, i totally nail it when I'm doing it quietly but when i go higher i still have some of that fry screaming voice but there's something in my throat that just taints the sound and eventually makes the whole thing stop it's something raspy like vocal fry and i don't know how to get rid of that although i use my diaphragm to do the screaming what is my problem related to?
Got a question: I'm having some trouble with combining clean singing with compression at the front of the face (as you described in one of your other videos) and false-cord screaming. When I scream, it kind of feels scratchy even afterwards and a bit like a sore throat - mind you I've only been doing it for a few weeks - and if I want to "position" my voice in the front of my face, it's kind of a challenge since my throat feels a tad swollen from the screaming, don't know how to explain it better.
Does this swelling and mild soreness mean that I'm doing some actual damage to my throat, or will this go away with practice and I'll be able to position my resonance as I need?
Can we put it this way; The rock singers' tissues related with sound creation who do the distortion corectly get use to that concept...just like the finger tips of a professional electric or acoustic guitar player...If that is the case, my conclusion will be to reach that point gradually by consistent vocal work out to avoid injuries..like in body building:))I wonder your comment..Do we have to feel the things you explain in your vid..everytime we try..o we get use to those..
When I do it I don’t actually get any volume.
is it ok if i feel pressure in my chest when i try false chord screams? my throat doesn't hurt at all and my voice sounds the same both before and after i do it.
I got down the false cord but having trouble with breathing when saying a line. Running out of breath any tips please?
Hey Marie Z, could you maybe check out the rapper 69 and tell me what he`s doing? :) I mean, normally even as a beginner I can distinguish between the different styles. But I really don`t get what he`s doing. It`s incredibly distorted and loud, a bit too distorted for gritty singing alone. thx in advance
When I do my screaming I often start producing a lot of mucus. Is that normal?
Hi Mary! I've been through your Belter Series (still practicing though), and now I'm on the Screamer Series. I'm working on singing with grit first and then I'd like to get into screaming. Around 9:20 you talk about the sensation felt when screaming; is this same sensation felt when singing with grit?
When I do it, it sounds good and I'm able to switch back to my singing voice without it feeling worn out, but there is a slight scratchiness in the back of my upper throat. Am I pushing too hard too soon or do I just need to keep practicing?
Thank you for making this video! I've always wondered about where I should feel my scream, I've heard it should be mostly in my chest, but i barely feel it there at all, it's almost entirely in the back of my throat. Is there any way to ensure my vocal folds aren't being used?
You push from your chest. That's why they say you should feel it in your chest. Screaming comes frommthe core. Lile Kevin's unvle said after getting out of prison, "say it with your chest!"
I dont know many of the keywords yet. However, i can do the fry noise, but when trying to combine with air/more power. The volume is the same. It just hurts more. What should i do to continue improving? Cuz right now i can only do the basic white noise, but without the air. Just the normal noise. Please help
My throat never hurts when I fry scream but my lymph nodes do . How can I fix this
This is not something I have ever heard of before! I would stop screaming and consult with your ENT doctor to see why that’s happening before continuing
I can fry scream but there is no way I get the fals chords screaming. =))
You can get it but it just takes time to get used to xD
Who as a screamer has the best pronunciation? I'm just getting started, but find if I force the scream less I can pronunciate better. Is that ok or should the Scream get all the power?
Underoath have really good clear pronunciation if you’re into their style. I’d check out their songs, “In Regards to Myself, “Writing on the Walls”, and “Anyone Can Dig a Hole but it Takes a Real Man to Call it Home”
Hi, my speaking voice sounds deeper a few seconds/minutes after I scream, no pain, no fatigue, just depth, is that normal?
I follow the steps that you teach, but my scream voice is too small, and it sounds like whisper(lots of air) , am I missing something?
anyone ever have issues with gag reflex while trying to do this?
when dropping the adam's apple while screaming, the sound will change... is this dangerous/good/bad?
@MaryZThanks for the video, helpful as always!
This is good, actually, as long as you are in PURE noise false cord or fry screaming. Meaning, no voice or pitch or yell coming through. So if it's pure false cord or fry the larynx can, does and should move to change the sound. When we sing or yell with grit, however, we still want our neutral larynx. BUT in pure false cord and fry the only thing changing the pitch is the larynx moving up and down and it is totally safe and somewhat necessary to let it move around when making those sounds. A low larynx in a fry scream sounds like a pig squeal, if you can do it well. Also, low larynx in false cord makes it really doomy and boomy. Always imagine your distortion going up over the tongue and into the face even with the larynx down low, to keep the distortion correct. Good luck!
thanks
I know how to push with my diaphragm, but I'm not exactly sure how to control my false chords. I notice that my throat is a bit sore after trying to scream. Is that normal? I know how to sing just fine. I just can't scream and sound like crap every time lol. Is there any way of fixing this?
I don't feel that much in the bottom back of my throat is feel it up higher tho but it's still comes out as a scream..people tell me it sound like I use a tiny bit of vocals still any exercises I can use to get rid of that????
Nope, you can't get rid of it because you can't flap the tissues around to create healthy distortion and not feel it. You're feeling it in the correct place. In the top of the throat at the soft palate. That's way away from your actual vocal cords. If you don't feel the scratchiness you won't be making much distortion and you might end up hurting yourself and yelling with your vocal cords, actually. Try alternating full distortion screams with whispers to take the voice out of it.
Could you do a video where you react to Tom Araya's vocals?
So should it feel like a fake soar throat when you're doing it? Like I feel scratchiness in the soft pallet and the hangy thing area but not down in my throat. Lol.
I also know how to do inhales and I'm actually good at those. The false chords are above the vocal chords so are those what I'm using to inhale scream? lol I know these are probably stupid questions but I've listened to everything from avenged sevenfold to carnifex for years now but have never gotten down how to scream. I've also heard that my throat is not supposed to hurt at all after but after I scream my throat feels sore so is there anything I can do to avoid that?
Michael Runde As far as I am aware, inhale screaming is pretty dangerous. I'd stay away from it, if I were you.
So, I am with the viewer below vvv inhale screaming is something you should avoid. You should learn to make the low "toilet bowl' or "pig squeal" sounds (ex. Suicide Silence etc) with low fry instead. Inhale is dangerous because the tissues in the wind pipe, including the actual vocal cords aren't meant or designed to withstand suction. So, when we apply suction to regular tissues, like the surface of your actual skin, we see what happens. In a hickey, for example, it causes blood vessel breakage and bruising. This is really easily done and the skin on your body is much stronger than the surface of the mucus membranes in the vocal cords. So, only mild suction can cause this type of injury. Bruising, blood vessel breakage, and vocal hemorrhaging (where they are bleeding and we taste blood). This is really dangerous and so I do not recommend continuing to inhale scream at all. This is probably why no matter what you do your throat continues to feel sore. Stop inhale screaming and learn a new technique asap! Good luck!
It is still possible to get the "tickle" in your throat from doing the false cord screaming, right? Ive always had that issue and drink a ton of room temp water regardless. Biggest issue ive had thus far is coordinating the falsetto voice with the false cord screaming. The tickle happens alot but i don't get hoarse. I suppose it's possible that theres also alot of neuron activity as well(kinda like after youve puffed ona joint and got a good hit) and you get that "pinggggg" that travels the span of the throat sometimes as far as down to the diaphragm.
Yes, so our throat should "tickle" a LOT in false cord screaming. You're using air to vibrate the false cords and soft palate and other tissues in the epiglottal funnel and it feels the most intense on pure false cord screaming. For falsetto with rasp, see my "singing with grit or rasp" tutorial. Thanks!
right on-- I was just trying to see if the chronic tickle i get is because of singing wrong-- I kinda figured it wasn't the case, just have a hypersensitive throat i suppose. Thanks-- been dl alot of your vids for assistance. I appreciate them. take care
VoiceHacks My throat feels raw/scratchy for a couple hours after practicing false cord. It doesn't hurt per se, but I was wondering if this is normal or sign I'm doing something wrong?
If I get my tonsils and adenoids out due to illness can I still do harsh vocals ?
Yes! I learned to scream after I had my tonsils removed.
How can you make your voice last longer screaming? I feel like that's my problem. Like if I was in a band I would be nervous cause I would be able to go for a 45 min show
therockstar barber breath control. Breathing exercises. Stop screaming before you’re lungs are totally empty. I used to always get super light headed because of that.
So I should learn false cord screaming before try screaming? Is false cord easier or does it have some steps i need to know before fry?
Oh you answered it in the video lol 😂
i'm doing this really deep growly thing kind of feels like a fry, but it's very deep. not sure what that is, there is no voice involved. What am I doing? hahaha
Probably a low fry or gutteral. If it sounds like a crisp, dry, gravelly sound and reverberates off of your soft palate and makes your upper throat feel slightly scratchy, it's probably a low fry- especially if not a lot of air is being exhaled at one time. If it sounds more like boulders as opposed to gravel, with a slower vibrato, uses more air, and resonates deeper in your throat, it's probably a false fold growl.
Um I have a question normally fry screaming is very easy and natural for me with no pain but after doing it non stop for hours and hours my voice does start getting fatigued and some notes won't come as easy if I try to sing in a clean tone but it comes back and I can sing fine after a little bit if I warm up my clean voice although my voice feels a little tired
It’s feels like my throat is closed a bit after doing my vocals like my throat is swollen or the back of my tongue cause I use my tongue a lot in lower screams
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Is it normal to have a scratchy throat after screaming? It's not hurting my throat at all, just scratchy
You talk a lot about scratchy feeling, I have that back behind my uvula and in the upper back of my throat, almost up to nasal region, and after, its scratchy. But my voice never gets touched, like my voice is fine, but the top of my throat is scratchy, is that right? And how do I get past that scratchiness?
You can’t! It will always happen when you so distorted sounds. Air moving those tissues around is causing the noose and therefore it will always be scratchy feeling - you will always feel it when you shake those tissues around. You just get used to it.
@@voicehacks awesome, thank you so much!
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Hi! Is it normal to feel a gag reflex while trying to fry scream? I think it vibrates my uvula.
i started learning to fry scream 6 days ago, i'm practicing every day and making progress. it feels fine during practice but later in the day, my throat will be slightly sore when swallowing, but i have no problem talking or clean singing. is that normal or is it a result of poor technique? btw i do scream words (not just sounds)--i try to make the first sound in a word by singing and then switch quickly to screaming the vowel sound, so it's not singing with distortion. i'm mostly trying to emulate vic fuentes, if that helps, i know he sings with compression a lot, so i do too, but i mean just the screaming parts.
Unfortunately, I can't really tell from just a description but I would discontinue anything that causes pain or strain until you see a doctor and get the all-clear. Or at the very least until a vocal coach can privately assess you to make sure that you're not causing the pain with the sound you're making. Don't continue producing any sounds that cause pain before, during or after until you've been assessed by a professional.
@@voicehacks ok, thanks.
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When i scream i feel a flapping sensation of what i think are my false chords but im not entirely sure. I have wanted to scream for a whole and after watching a quick video that just made eveything click the raspy scrapy feeling in my throat stopped happening. I want to know if for false chords screams am i supposed to feel a flapping sensation in my throat?
Did you find out what it was?
@@kenneth6965 i think it was i managed to activate my false chords which can take a bit
Has anyone experience faint feeling right after screaming? I dont feel any pain in my throat only scratchiness somewhere beneath my tongue.-- haha help pls
Heh the dreaded lightheartedness from attempting false cords ... xD At least it doesn't hurt but only feels dry XD
Is it normal to develop a pounding headache after practicing fry screams?
I get them too while practicing fry, you might be straining too hard...try to relaxing everything while practicing
So which technique is Corey Taylor from Slipknot using?
MajinMind he mostly uses false cord
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