Link for the slides? Want to read Digilock's response before giving them a piece of my mind. Good 'ld Streisand Effect. I don't care how many decades their security through obscurity has (apparently) served them.
@@whatilearnttoday5295 Can't post link here due to restrictions.. but if you google 'Defcon 32 slides' the first link is 'The DEF CON Media Server' and in there will be a link to a pdf of the slides
@@whatilearnttoday5295I dunno, they seem to be doing better than the competition here. Ultimately, these kind of locks are merely supposed to be sufficently difficult to attack not impossible.
@ Ahh I must have misunderstood what you meant by the security through obscurity comment. Though honestly I was impressed by them *withdrawing* their cease and desist letter. I mean a cease and desist letter is just a sternly worded letter written by an attorney so there is no reason they had to withdraw it at all and that suggests to me a degree of good faith. Look, I 100% agree that attempts to use the legal system to bully people by threatening to bury them in legal fees is inappropriate. However, at the same time it is the appropriate way to handle situations where you think someone is claiming something wrong and thus defamatory about your product is to inform them that it's wrong -- in lawyer speak that means writing a cease and desist letter. That's exactly what Diebold did when fox was making up bullshit about them. The fact that it was withdrawn when there was no reason they had to do it doesn't seem like an attempt to abuse the process. But it does speak to deeper problems with the us legal system that is frankly designed mostly for one corp dealing with the lawyers of another corp that can be very intimidating for individuals.
The TH-cam title is a little bit incorrect in regard to our names. It should be: Dennis Giese, Braelynn Luedtke
Link for the slides? Want to read Digilock's response before giving them a piece of my mind.
Good 'ld Streisand Effect. I don't care how many decades their security through obscurity has (apparently) served them.
@@whatilearnttoday5295 Can't post link here due to restrictions.. but if you google 'Defcon 32 slides' the first link is 'The DEF CON Media Server' and in there will be a link to a pdf of the slides
@@whatilearnttoday5295I dunno, they seem to be doing better than the competition here. Ultimately, these kind of locks are merely supposed to be sufficently difficult to attack not impossible.
@@petergerdes1094 The technical capabilities aren't the issue. Legal threats are unacceptable.
@ Ahh I must have misunderstood what you meant by the security through obscurity comment.
Though honestly I was impressed by them *withdrawing* their cease and desist letter. I mean a cease and desist letter is just a sternly worded letter written by an attorney so there is no reason they had to withdraw it at all and that suggests to me a degree of good faith.
Look, I 100% agree that attempts to use the legal system to bully people by threatening to bury them in legal fees is inappropriate. However, at the same time it is the appropriate way to handle situations where you think someone is claiming something wrong and thus defamatory about your product is to inform them that it's wrong -- in lawyer speak that means writing a cease and desist letter. That's exactly what Diebold did when fox was making up bullshit about them. The fact that it was withdrawn when there was no reason they had to do it doesn't seem like an attempt to abuse the process.
But it does speak to deeper problems with the us legal system that is frankly designed mostly for one corp dealing with the lawyers of another corp that can be very intimidating for individuals.