How to start Napoleonic Austrians
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- Hey guys, the latest in the series on how to get started turns it's attention to Napoleon's most persistent foe, the Austrians! Because I'm between Austrian armies right now, the images aren't mine and the large army at the end can be found on the excellent site chasseuracheval.blogspot.com/2...
Hope you enjoy! See you in the next one! - เกม
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Update wife asked what I wanted for Xmas linked this video
Hahaha. Nice one!
So, when are the divorce papers being served?
Interesting to see the plastic alternatives today, appear splendid! I haven't played much the last 20 years but back in the 90s I painted something like 6000 metal figures, mostly Austrians and Bavarians (but also French, Saxons and Wütrtembergers). I can field the Austrian Army at Wagram in scale 1:100 (15mm) and two 1813 Armycorps plus a lot of cavalry in scale 1:20 (28 mm) - and then of course the Bavarians and Austrians for Hanau 1813 in both 1:100 15mm and 1:20 28 mm. Gott lobe der Kaiser! :-)
Blimey! That's a lot of guys! Awesome though!
Good to have you back Tim!
I am so happy to see that you are back! I enjoyed this video. Wish I could have seen this three years ago when I started building my Austrian Army!
Love these videos. You have mentioned Ottomans a couple of times, looking forward to you covering that not frequently covered army. And do the Bavarians!!!
Thank you for another great video.
Great video, I’ve been waiting for this one since you started the series!
Your channel is part of the reason I started an Austrian Army a couple months ago. I went with the Perry Miniatures Brigade deal you mentioned and a pack of cavalry. It’s pretty great savings, but it’s a lot of models to work through. I’ve played Games Workshop games as well as Bolt Action and some of Fantasy Flight’s Star Wars offerings before so I thought of myself as a pretty experienced hobbyist, but 288 models of line infantry is a lot of guys. Now this video is inspiring me to get back to work on them. Thank you for all the work you put in to these videos and the channel.
No worries dude! It is very daunting, but with the new GW contrast paints, Austrians have never been quicker to paint!
Seriously though, i find it easier to break big projects down, maybe a box at a time
Very interesting mate. I think the Austrians are my favourites army. An amazing variety of really colourful uniforms. 🙂
This was great, thanks for your insights once again. I'm focused on my British at the moment, but I'd love to do Austrians after. The massed white uniforms are just marvellous.
Yeah I think they look great
Great video! Each one makes me want a new army! Can’t wait for Prussians! ☺️
Soon!
A 'must have'! Great video, lovely presentation...and wonderful army!
Alas, not my army, but from an excellent blog I can highly recommend. The link is in the video description. Glad you enjoyed the video though! Thanks for watching!
A nice little video on collecting the army. Would be good to see a series of you actually collecting your new Austrian army.
These videos are great. I have no intention of putting together an Austrian force in the foreseeable future, and yet here I am for half an hour!
Ha! Thanks for watching bud. They're often useful to see what's out there, for example the 3 box deal the Perry's do on all their nations. I was the same with Peussians, but now...I dunno, I might get a small 200 quid army... 😂
@@NapoleonicWargaming Same with me on the Prussians, but I've got French/Poles and Russians to do first!
Great video. very useful as I am currently building an Austrian army at the moment.
Brilliant vid bud, an Austrian army is next on my list!
I have been waiting for this one .... it did not disappointing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
10:35
Enemy player in his head :
„IM PREPARED FOR ALL HIS MOVES“
*puts war chariot on the table*
Enemy in his head :
„I AM NOT PREPARED FOR SHIT“
Instructions unclear, bought a Roman legion led by 2 Panzer IIIs for my Austrian Army
@@yorneustein7851 hahaha
Been waiting for this one (although I decided on Russia first to better work with France/Prussia in ~1813)! Austrians are definitely on my list for a future project.
I started in 1/72 and HaT has brand new marching, command and action packs as well as nice grenadiers, grenzers and landwehr. For $50 you put together a 200-strong infantry. HaTalso makes chevau-leger and cuirassiers which are the standard at this scale. The chevau leger can be painted as dragoons leaving Uhlans which can either be bought metal from Franznap or by converting Zvezda Polish lancers plastics. HaT also has Austrian foot and horse artillery as well as ammunition wagons. Fo r$200 you can put together a very complete Austrian army at 1/72.
Absolutely! The HaT stuff is very nice. I bought a Bavarian army from HaT that I'm very slowly working my way through
@@NapoleonicWargaming I'm working on a diorama of the Bavarian attacks on Austrians at Biburg in 1809. I'd love to share it with you when I'm done..
@@davidcollins2648 please do, you can send it to my facebook page!
Amazing Video mate
Thanks dude
i am just getting into 1/72 napoleonics i have heard its possible to use 20mm figs using the black powder rules , i know you are using 28mm but your videos are packed full of historical information and i really enjoy every one of them cheers paul.
Great as usual
Thanks!
Working on a 6th coalition army this video will be very useful thanks
Ah very cool!
Very nice vid, and useful for anyone building a new Austrian Army.
One further comment, 1809 Austrians only had one Fahne, not two, and in deployment it was always on the right of the line. That's very handy, for Victrix buyers as you won't need to buy extra standard bearers for 24 man units.
Up to half of Austrian Cavalry were Hussars, which were also excellent troops. And the Regts were HUGE. What are your views on fielding this very colourful arm of Service?
Fantastic guide, I used this video as the basis for my own Austrian army. However I did go a bit mad and go for the Perry's Austrian Brigade set to start, the brand new Austrian light cavalry brigade deal then grabbed the Victrix Boxes you recommended. So I expect I will hate the colour white very shortly.
Haha, there's a very good chance you will! 😂 with the new citadel contrasts though it's not so bad. I'm about to embark on 36 Austrian hussars...rip me 😂😂😂
Also, the new deal is amazing, I can see I'm going to have to update all these videos soon! 😂
@@NapoleonicWargaming like a damn fool I have agreed to not only paint my own Austrians but also my brother's Perry French Black Powder Get Started collection. And all this while still having to wrap up the Waterloo set. Thank goodness for your videos, because this is all my first foray into Napoleonic miniatures.
That's taking a lot on! But good for you! You'll get a real sense of achievement when it's done!
1809 TES GREAT CHOICE BUDDY THANK YOU
The landwehr were useless but that didn't keep them from trying. They were in nearly every battle after the disastrous first invasion of central Germany and especially prominent running away from Archduke John's Army of Inner Austria (to be fair they were supposed to be depending their homeland which was mostly, you know, NOT IN ITALY)
Please help, im just getting into black powder and I’m a little confused with the army building rules for the Austrians.
Under the infantry brigade it says I can’t have more Hungarian than German infantry regiments, is this referring to the whole army or in that particular brigade, I assume it’s for the whole army though it doesn’t say that even though it DOES say it for the cannon and grenza.
Another question how is the author getting 34 points for the Abteilung? The example stats that the two hussar regiments could be replaced with up to four small units each, but with the small units being 8 points but that doesn’t work, nor does dividing the hussar unit by 8 out of 51 points.
Any clarity would be GREATLY appreciated
hey man can you do a hungary getting started
Great vid. I can suspend belief on lots of stuff, but I don't think I could use Germans for Hungarians. The lack of the decoration on pants, different gaiters, pointed cuff (I could overlook that) make them too different in my opinion.
Nah that's fair enough.
Painting all those Hungarian knots isn't fun at any scale either.
HaT 28mm hard plastic Austrians have been 'coming soon' for a l-o-n-g time now. Pics of the master sculpts are up on their site.
Can you make a video about starting Dutch/Belgians?
When it comes to uniforms does anyone believe that when they create a pattern for one year or another the Individual regiments cast aside their existing uniforms, or wait until they are worn out!
Did the Austrian Grenz have the same uniform as Hungarian line ?
I have no plans on playing half of these countries but end of watching the video regardless.
You think the victrix box of greens is better then grabbing another box of Perry’s and the upgrade kit?
I think so, I really like the victrix grenadiers. They are much better than their earlier kits
Will you be covering the history of British cavalry and infantry of the Napoleonic wars?
I need to go back and redo the early armies videos in the new style, but if you watch the videos I did on hussars and dragon I take about them in there. They do deserve their own video though I agree.
I've done a video on the british army, hang on I'll get the link...
th-cam.com/video/f5LTD8JhaAE/w-d-xo.html
@@NapoleonicWargaming I favourited a few of your videos and will watch today. I am actually British but I always been more interested in the French and Prussian armies. I watched the French cavalry of the guard last night and enjoyed that. Yes the Polish lancers were good. Maybe you could do history of battles Marengo, Austerlitz ,Jena etc.Thanks for the videos!!
Vive L'Empereur !
@@erindel4397 I've thought about doing battle videos, but Epic History TV (which I can highly recommend) do a better job than I ever could!
@@NapoleonicWargaming Very true and they are truly Epic! Just watched The Road to Leipzig and Battle of the Nations!
Vive L'Empereur!
@@NapoleonicWargaming The Lithuanian Tatars of the Imperial Guard (French: Tartares lituaniens de la Garde impériale these were also lancers? This site is very good.
www.napolun.com/mirror/napoleonistyka.atspace.com/index.html
I love the early war Austrian command some cool 'heroes'
Yo I am building an austrian themed army for 40k with atlantic and perry models and stumbled on your channel. Does your historical game let you use Hungarian hussars with your main austrian forces?
Welcome dude! Sounds interesting! Absolutely it does! They weren't a separate country then, they were just in 'the Austrian Empire'. Their light cavalry came mostly from Hungary, and they had tons of it!
@@NapoleonicWargaming I knew that silly. Are the Magyars any good in your game? Historically I think they were the only competent forces in the whole army lol
They're treated the same as Germans in the rules, though obviously historically they performed different roles (well the cavalry did!) For example the heavy cavalry tended to be German, the light cavalry Hungarian, so its difficult to compare as they do different roles, but there's no different in the rules between Hungarian light cavalry and German light cavalry.
At the time Hungarians were highly rated, they were considered a 'hot blooded race meaning they were passionate, aggressive fighters. Germans were considered 'cold blooded' making them precise and calculating. I don't know how true that is, but combined that would certainly be formidable!
I like your videos as they provide a good startin point fpr a beginner. Just wanted to add, that the fusiliers in the hungarian regiments wore the shako (the first model being a little bit different) since the year 1800 and were never being equiped with the helmet. So if you want to build a hungarian batallion for the time befor 1809, please do not use the helmets.
Ah, I didnt know that! I thought they got the shakoes on 1809. Thanks!
The Hungarians also had pointed and not round cuffs on their tunics. The pointed cuffs were decorated with a strip of lace and a tassel. The blue had not only yellow-black thigh-knots, but also a yellow-black stripe at the outer seam. Lastly all Hungarians wore a moustache. Hope that helps.
I think the Vitrix Miniatures are a better option as they give you 56 miniatures that include 2x command and 48 infantry for £25.00, however, with the Perry Miniatures that have 48 in total in the box which includes two command sections so your only roughly going to get 1 36 figure battalion per box for £20.00, with the Vitrix you roughly get three battalions of 36 figures for every 2 boxes and with their discount for multiple buys it seems like a better deal to me.
Does the Victrix box have 2 command? I can never tell and that's usually where things end up getting hazy since it looks like a great deal but then you have only X many figures without command and have to hunt around for compatible metal command figures.
@@Nobleshield This is from the Vitrix Website for their 1809 Austrians,
"This set contains 56 Austrian infantry figures.
2 x officers
2 x standard bearers 2 x Drummers 2 x mounted colonels 48 x infantry
The officers and Mounted colonels have multiple arm options adding a great amount of variety to these figures.
The majority of the infantry figures (32) come in march attack pose. However, there are (16) figures which can be used in march attack pose or firing, loading, advancing at porte or advancing at charge plus can be made into a sergeant figure."
www.victrixlimited.com/collections/28mm-napoleonics/products/copy-of-austrian-napoleonic-grenadiers-1798-1815
@@hobbywargamer8195 it's a great set, only down side is that 2 standard bearers, you need 2 per battalion. But yeah, it's a good box no doubt
That's what I thought, each battalion needs 2 standards.
@@Nobleshield it would cost you only a few £'s to get a command sprue. It's still a better value than perry, Austrian's can have much larger battalions with the Vitrix miniatures...for games like GdB Austrains can be as large as 48 figures per battalion.
Hope some day there will be plastic artillery;-)
That's the dream!
Nice to know there are people out there that can spend £100 out of their salary lol
I think in the grand scheme of hobbies, 100 is not too much. Golf clubs, fishing rods, car parts, all of these can be waaay over 100 pounds for a single item.
Remember these are rrp as well, buying from 3rd parties can save you up to 20%
Great to see you back after your rough period.
Thanks bud. Good to be back!
Ever thought of some basic "how to play blackpowder - you have a very clear presentation that would make it easy to understand ? It would apart from been useful for people like me just starting with the rules also signpost other new people to your channel who search for basic rules.