CRANTOCK - Popular BEACH in Cornwall REVEALS an amazing SECRET at low tide

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @bobspeller2225
    @bobspeller2225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You're brave soldiers to go out in that weather, great video and nice views, All the best Bob

  • @helenbosworth5950
    @helenbosworth5950 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Enjoyed the story so fascinating thank you Sarah and Andrew look forward to to the next one

  • @stevestone1171
    @stevestone1171 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for yet another wonderful vlog. You have shown us all a gem that most would not be aware of. A great carving with a moving tale.

  • @Nansen1981
    @Nansen1981 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Having been a hairdresser for more years than I can remember, I have also done a history of the craft. If that is a hairstyle and not a random hat , (even if it is), this dates from the early 1920’s when the flappers were doing their stuff and getting short “bobs”. It looks more art deco than anything else. Just my opinion 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @ganneswilliams641
    @ganneswilliams641 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sarah and Andrew,you truly are real troopers and professionals.No matter how horrible the weather can be,you still make videos.Fantastic videos.Always high quality,informative and entertaining.Your hard work is always appreciated and enjoyed.Thank you.

  • @carotrike
    @carotrike 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought some yarn while I was visiting Shrewsbury, lovely stuff, I'm making a cowl with it. There's only one skein. It's blue, maybe it was dyed with indigo, but it turns my hands blue! I knitted with it on the train yoday, the girl with the refreshment trolley, we discovered when she dropped her hook, that she is a crocheter! She showed me pictures of her hebredian sheep! A connection was made! You were so right with what you said! We keep saying at our crafting meet-ups, age means nothing when we all get together! The girl on the train was about half my age, but we made a connection with our crafting!

  • @jeanspry3242
    @jeanspry3242 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very interesting video. Love Crantock. Thank you both. 😊

  • @Erika-Uwe
    @Erika-Uwe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dear Sarah &Andrew ,we enjoyed this Video so much ,this is a sad but interesting story , glad there is a memorial of both women at the graveyard ,thank you so much for being so brave in the wind and rain for us.Beautiful beach!Erika &hubby

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed the video, Sarah :)

  • @debsmostexcellentadventure5353
    @debsmostexcellentadventure5353 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my husband is half cornish ,half cockney.getting over cancer and we both love this channel debs xx ps his relatives run the only pasty drive through .

  • @christopherdakin7094
    @christopherdakin7094 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you both for braving the elements and for giving us another interesting video. A beautiful beach too.

  • @1eyrey
    @1eyrey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Be careful of the tides in these areas too 👍stay safe

  • @TimoDyer
    @TimoDyer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Grew up in Perranporth and Cubert with relatives in Crantock and St Newlyn East. Also St Agnes, Mithian, Newquay. Finally St Enoder and Ladock.

  • @user-Juneybee53
    @user-Juneybee53 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What struck me was how big the maid's grave stone was! The family, I guess ,must of paid for it.
    A really tragic story, thanks for all your effort in that weather.

  • @KidCurry666
    @KidCurry666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Crantock, our holiday destination every year. I can remember about 10, 15 years ago the carving was at waist height. Great channel both, here's to a great year 👍

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sand depth regularly changes through the year with the winter storms dragging it out into the bay, it will come back in again over the summer! Sarah :)

  • @lindaward1355
    @lindaward1355 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you showing us this, so interesting though sad. We’ve had many happy holidays at West Pentire but had no idea this was there. Always enjoy your videos

  • @amazinggrace4036
    @amazinggrace4036 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Sarah and Andrew…this story has everything, wow extraordinary and as you say too many questions but your conclusion was sweet. Thank you for the journey it was amazing to see and discover it with you. The lovely church and graveyard wow so ancient and for those memorials to still be there…amazing … thank you England for keeping history amazing! Till we see you again…stay well Sarah and Andrew (we felt for you both in the cold) Ana 🌼

  • @pauldowning792
    @pauldowning792 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Enjoyed the mystery this week, the fact that I live in the Stroud and our son went to Marling school where Mrs Greenstreets husband was headmaster added to our interest

  • @DonaldBradley-i8u
    @DonaldBradley-i8u 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Sarah and Andrew. That was really interesting, after all the years we visited Crantock we missed that carving.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Our pleasure! a little treasure hunt for your next visit! Sarah :)

  • @marieryan2541
    @marieryan2541 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Sarah and Andrew. I love the stories you told today in relation to the carving. Either way it's a lovely legend.

  • @flowergirl-sue
    @flowergirl-sue 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A very interesting story which was very poignant. Must get down to see the sculptor some time. Glad you are getting back to your walks despite the awful weather. I think Andrew's hair looks very smart. 27:07

  • @toxophillus72
    @toxophillus72 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am 89, over 50 yrs ago in Hertfordshire I lived next door to a chap who was born in Crantock. His surname was Prater, he told me a story about an ancestor of his called Joseph Prater who had been engaged to marry a young lady who had unfortunately died on horseback in the sea at Crantock. He said Joseph carved a memorial to her on a rock in a cave on that beach. My wife and I found the carving and we plus successively our children, grandchildren ,and Gt grandchildren always look her up whenever we are in Cornwall,we have been doing this for about 55yrs, in that time she's been so far down in the sand we could just see the top of her head, this year she was really high. My neighbour Ivor Prater died many yrs ago. Hope this information ties things up for you.

  • @RocketDog73
    @RocketDog73 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like walking down to Crantock from the area of the boating lake at Trevemper Road and along the river Gannel on a low tide. Then back along the coast up to Lusty Glaze and back around the back of town to the area of the zoo where I camp.

  • @nigelknight6688
    @nigelknight6688 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brilliant as usual & really interesting & poignant. I know Crantock beach quite well so will definitely look for the cave & then go for a pint or two at C-Bay bar or the Bowgie Inn cheers Sarah & Andrew🍻

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Bowgie is looking good - last time we went it was still pink! Sarah :)

    • @gordonsimpson3235
      @gordonsimpson3235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      service is still terrible though@@CornishWalkingTrails

  • @lynnestait8011
    @lynnestait8011 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    in all the years we've been visiting we've never been to Crantock so definitely one for our list, thanks for the video...and braving the weather 🙂

  • @cornwallparanormalresearch2378
    @cornwallparanormalresearch2378 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Big like 👍 👌 😳

  • @wendyluvsbooks6537
    @wendyluvsbooks6537 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoyed this video , love seeing Cornwall and the beach and really enjoyed this mystery of the carvings …. Thank you for doing this

  • @esthermorrissey1454
    @esthermorrissey1454 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done on another brilliant video especially in this dreadful weather. The story this week really drew me in and I really enjoyed it. The North Coast - rugged, dangerous but very beautiful.

  • @chaddamp2894
    @chaddamp2894 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes..the tides are very fearse on that lovely beach,spent many great days there nearly 40 years ago x

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes they are! Great beach though! Sarah :)

  • @debbiehollis5711
    @debbiehollis5711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a child of five I stayed in The Crantock Bay Hotel .Every year I stayed here with my parents until I was sixteen.The hotel has now closed and is a spa and apartments.The story I was told back in the late fifties was a woman had arranged to meet her lover in this cave .She did the carving while waiting for the lover.The tide came in while she waiting and she drowned.I don't think anyone really knows but certainly the carving has been there for at least a hundred years .We always made our way from the Bowgie Inn down to the beach.There is a lovely cliff walk around the headland to Porth joke.On low tide we would swim to Goose Island seen from the main beach.The gannel Estuary over near the sand dunes is very dangerous as there is huge tidal pull.Lots of people over the years have drowned.Enormous tidal pull.And sinking sand around the edges of the Estuary.Life guards now patrol the beach as it is a popular surfing venue.Its my favourite beach in Cornwall.Love the way when the tide is in all the coves ,inclueding the cove with the carving,flood creating natural swimming.pools.

  • @ravenwing8842
    @ravenwing8842 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an intriguing story! Thank you, I’d never heard of this. Love your channel - I’ve been catching up on your previous adventures. So interesting and entertaining! Coffee on its way. Enjoy! 😃👍

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much! Enjoy our back catalogue, Sarah :)

  • @chrishurst4666
    @chrishurst4666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Gosh, what a story, I was a pupil at Marling Grammar School (1971-1978, an only pupil to have a 100% attendance), in the Elliott, class, but Greenstreet was anther class of students depending on your surname, I never knew about this even though my family lived in Whitehall (near Stroud) for over 54 years. Now in Cornwall I'll go visit her.

    • @cathydyer3774
      @cathydyer3774 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Poor Kate and Ethel. A horrible end.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow! That’s fascinating, especially as you are now in Cornwall, Sarah :)

  • @davidnicholson1571
    @davidnicholson1571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent news about crantock. Will be there in July this year guys thank you .

  • @colinbaker3415
    @colinbaker3415 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What another fascinating mystery. You really do discover them ,don't you! Have stayed at a campsite near Crantock and the long slog to the beach was well worth it. If you are led to believe that the carvings have been re-carved ,a clue could be in the font of the verse.🤔 It looks too modern to me. Please keep on delving into your vast library to give us more gems like this.😃

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have one or two more wonderful stories that we can tell! Sarah :)

  • @TravellingTorunn
    @TravellingTorunn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very enjoyable video. So many quesions and not as many answers 🙂 I really like the Crantoc area, and to be able to walk on the seabed at low tide. I never knew about this carving, so thank you for this story. Torunn 🥰

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One to look out for when you have finished exploring the coast path! Sarah :)

    • @TravellingTorunn
      @TravellingTorunn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CornishWalkingTrails yes definitely 🥰

  • @anitaford6559
    @anitaford6559 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another good one❤

  • @dthomp06
    @dthomp06 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting story (ies) and a great mystery. Thank you for telling us and showing us about this little known carving. If only one could use a Time Machine ….

  • @bernicebest
    @bernicebest 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Talk about a walk on the wild side, it couldn’t get more wild could it! the tides looked scary, interesting but very sad story, Andrew lightened the mood as always with his red herring joke 😅 a fascinating mystery, I agree it was probably Ethel and maid that met an untimely end poor souls 😞 my son and his family visit ‘Holly Well Bay’ each year and visit the cave they featured in ‘Poldark’ I would loved to have known about it when we visited Cornwall years and years ago:) thanks 🙏 again for a great video 🤗

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The cave of the Holy well is extraordinary! The colours are so vivid! Sarah :)

    • @bernicebest
      @bernicebest 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CornishWalkingTrails I only remember it from ‘Poldark’ have you done a video of that beach and cave, my memory not so good these days I know my Sons family love going and did some videoing there:) 🤗

  • @СветланаЛукьянова-ц6б
    @СветланаЛукьянова-ц6б 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Спасибо Сара и Эндрю за рассказанную вами историю. Сразу представилась красивая романтичная история любви с трагическим концом. Мне особенно понравились стихи на скале. Всё это уйдет в вечность!!! Просто интересно, как всё это выполнялось технически, какими инструментами, как долго, учитывая время прилива и отлива. Ну, а история действительно занимательная и загадочная. Спасибо.

  • @JoeCoastal
    @JoeCoastal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video. In my opinion the painting you showed us of Ethel bares a noticeable resemblance to the carving. Notably her chin. Thanks for making this one. I'll have to visit Crantock sometime soon.

  • @robertcotton7421
    @robertcotton7421 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Just to put a different idea forward what if the carving is about the maid and not the lady....

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh yes! That’s a good thought, even more intriguing, Sarah :)

  • @suemasongreen8979
    @suemasongreen8979 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very interesting ! Love your vids.I adore Cornwall . I was surprised by the Name of who William Prater married ( Jane Larkins ) , as my maiden name is Larkins, , Susan Jane Larkins , i also had an uncle Henry, and a Joseph in the family . i now want to check my family tree out , as we had a John Larkins living in London in the Metropolitan police , the timeline is about right too . Weird thing is , i have been to Cornwall around 15 times for holidays , and from the first visit , seemed to know my way around better than i should be able to , and always felt like the Cornish coast is where i should be . The sea has always been a fascination and draws me .

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oooo! A nice little investigation into your family tree to find out more! Sarah :)

  • @pilesofparagraphs
    @pilesofparagraphs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was fascinating. Thank you for sharing the story. Must admit I was feeling the Cornish cold here in Arizona 😊

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! It was such a cold day! Sarah :)

  • @MikeKeel
    @MikeKeel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video guys. If and when you go back to Crantock, please refer to The Cornish Celtic Way book. I walked this path in 2018. The book references St Carantoc and how he decided where the church should be built. Inside the church there is a hidden dove, supposedly the dove of St Carantoc.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a copy of the book and often see the stamps in churches, Sarah :)

  • @JoannaLouise200
    @JoannaLouise200 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cornwall certainly threw some wild weather at you...a real hoolie! Such a moving story...that Ethel, regardless of risk, placed herself in danger to save Kate her maid. As you say Sarah, the face/hair profile style looks early 1900s (& no earlier). It seems the Spenders & their circle were educated/literary/artistic people, and I wonder if the grand verse was an original commemoration, or borrowed from an epic poem? Either way, the words are wonderfully apt & evocative. Also, it appears that the rock surface has been deliberately smoothed (like prepping a canvas) to take the image & verse, and that it has since been weathered by time & tide :)

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh wow! Even more questions! I love videos like this, they just make you think so much. There’s a novel in every one! Sarah :)

  • @jankitteringham8483
    @jankitteringham8483 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankyou, lovely video. 🇬🇧🥰

  • @nataliehick5071
    @nataliehick5071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will be checking this out thanks 😊

  • @obiwankenobi6952
    @obiwankenobi6952 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your channel, not always commenting…keep up the amazing Videos that shows this most Beautiful part of England….❤❤
    From the Hair i would consider the Carving late 1800….

  • @robertwillis9988
    @robertwillis9988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Must be so nice to be retired like you and walk round cornwall everyday❤❤

  • @daizyflower272
    @daizyflower272 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such a sad story. The carving could be the same lady as the painting as the chin is similar. Thank you for getting out, so much rain here in Cornwall.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wanted to take a good look at the painting and compare to the carving. That’s the thing I didn’t get chance to do! Sarah :)

  • @SpanishEclectic
    @SpanishEclectic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a fascinating story! I suppose it's possible that even the portrait and the verse were not done at the same time. Interesting you have not found anything more about the story in your various Cornish history volumes. It's always fun when you compare an 18th Century account with a Victorian one, or observations of the same place made during the 1930s. The wording is always so indicative of the times. I found an 1880s book about South America in a shed at my Mother-in-law's family farm, complete with illustrations of the animals and birds, and colorized photos of the harbor at Rio de Janiero with masted sailing ships and hardly any buildings. I do hope something new turns up about this lovely sad verse and portrait.

  • @Hedgehogsinthemist123
    @Hedgehogsinthemist123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's a shame us locals only get to enjoy the beaches and sea when it's cold and wet. Thank you for braving the weather to tell us this fascinating story. Crantock is a very treacherous beach where, sadly, many people, mostly holidaymakers, have lost their lives over the years. I was always told as a child never to swim there. Apologies if I didn't hear you mention the initials in the rock which look like KAY. I got quite excited when you mentioned the maid was called Kate. I ran the video back to check the initials again, but they do seem to spell out KAY. Maybe these were added by someone else later? Well done for finding the graves, particularly Kate's, which is very hard to read.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yes! We noticed the modern graffiti and I think you are right! Sarah :)

    • @gordonsimpson3235
      @gordonsimpson3235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't think Crantock is any more dangerous than any other Northern Cornish beaches. I have been going there since 71..
      As long as you swim/surf where instructed and keep out of the Gannel (as instructed), it is a lovely shallow sloping beach.

  • @petegibson863
    @petegibson863 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Greetings Andrew and Sarah , I thought the word on the left of the ladies head was KAY , could that be the maids shortened name of Kate ? Wonderful story with a very sad end , thanks for caring .

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it’s more modern graffiti unfortunately! Sarah :)

  • @annetaylor-rc5yq
    @annetaylor-rc5yq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    not been to a beach in over 10 years would love to go but depression and anxiety doesn't let me leave the house and its quite a journey from Gloucester nice to have these videos instead

  • @Oshunsprite
    @Oshunsprite 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So interesting. Thank you to you both. Now, what about Kate, the maid? Maybe it was her lover's engraving. I admire you two so much, how you get out and about and are so easy to listen to and watch.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good question! And one we didn’t think of! Sarah :)

  • @1eyrey
    @1eyrey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If your still in the area ,you could do a blog on the holy well at Holywell bay down the road through cubert

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We know it well! Some great walks in the area, Sarah :)

  • @MegaRas73
    @MegaRas73 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if the inscription could have a code of be a riddle. Thanks for the video really enjoyed it.

  • @ryminsta
    @ryminsta 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many a holiday on Crantock.
    Took my son to find this. My son had to dig it out as it was under that much sand at the time.
    Heard she was spooked on the top cliffs when riding a horse

  • @cynthiastogden7000
    @cynthiastogden7000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely story although sad. Never been to Crantock although used to go to Port Joke not far away.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Polly Joke is a great beach, used to take our children there! Sarah :)

  • @gordonsimpson3235
    @gordonsimpson3235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How have you managed to miss Crantock all this time Guys!
    I am biased of course, I have been going there since 1971. Along with Polly Joke, my favourite beach.
    The Old Albion was the scene of our evening libations!

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Crantock is a little gem! And we intend to return, hopefully when the weather improves but before it gets too mad! Sarah :)

    • @gordonsimpson3235
      @gordonsimpson3235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      May should be perfect!@@CornishWalkingTrails

  • @jeffreycarson3183
    @jeffreycarson3183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If late Victorian or Edwardian ladies they would be wearing long bathing dresses for paddling.As far as I know they did not attempt to swim.So maybe the bathing dresses got too heavy when waterlogged.

  • @stewartevans9753
    @stewartevans9753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a dog 😂😂

  • @WolfmanWoody
    @WolfmanWoody 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a friend with the surname Prator and you do pronounce the 'a' as in 'play'. Or at least he does. 😁

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Hopefully it’s the same! Sarah :)

  • @flowergirl-sue
    @flowergirl-sue 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A very interesting story and very poignant. Must get down to see the sculptor some time. Glad you are both getting back to your walks despite the awful weather. I like ANDREW'S hair, very smart.

  • @PhilipInCoventry
    @PhilipInCoventry 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do sometimes wonder if criminal activity was being staged here.

  • @steveray8056
    @steveray8056 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here is a different thought. What if the carving about the maid and not the “lady”.

  • @MRaquelGarciaValero
    @MRaquelGarciaValero 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

  • @judybee
    @judybee 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lovely video. So poignant. Coffee on the way you two! You will need it to warm up for the next one!

  • @JamieW-o7b
    @JamieW-o7b 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Monsters, chosen for what exactly?

  • @johntimbrell
    @johntimbrell 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sarah and Andrew: Am I seeing things? There looks to be a three word initial to the left of the woman's neck.

    • @CornishWalkingTrails
      @CornishWalkingTrails  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, there was! Modern graffiti, someone’s initials! Sarah :)

  • @KevandPerry2
    @KevandPerry2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks to me that she has her up in a bun.