AFAIK in winrar's case, that was intended. Makes people rely on it, so they can charge the businesses that want to use it. Or something along those lines.
I wrote this. Back in 1995, approximately. I used the art from the Maxis/Cinematronics game and some of the logic but a lot of the original game was in ASM and because I was in NT at the time, anything I did had to run on PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha, and x86. So I ported/rewrote the game from scratch which is why it's different than the Maxis games. There were other tables indeed (Skullduggery comes to mind) but I didn't have the art for anything other than this table, so it's all I did. I was writing Task Manager at home about the same time, then switched and TM became my day job for a few weeks (months?) while Space Cadet went on the back burner, but then I got it all in in time for the beta. As I recall the exec, Jim Allchin, was very supportive of the effort because he wanted something "cool" to showcase NT 4.
Not even gonna lie I didn’t believe you until I did my research. You sir are a legend. Thank you for making the first pc game I ever played along with Task Manager.
This game was used as a reward in my 4th grade class. I don't remember the specifics, but if we did well enough on daily work, we would be given an automatic 100 for test-grade and be allowed to play this instead. Lots of students earned this right and there was a long waiting list.
I used to play this game at my Grandparents. Everyone in the family was on the scoreboard and I think my Grandmother got tired of people 1-uping her high score. So one day to settle the matter she absolutely skunked this game. She got some ridiculous score that added up to hours of unbroken play time lol she was undefeated
"This version is only a demo for the true Space Cadet!" Too bad! The "demo" will always hold a special place in our hearts and be recognized as the TRUE Space Cadet!
I dont think he was being sarcastic. This game is a legend and probably one of the most popular games by copies ever. People in all continents have played this, regardless of social class, race or religion.
I remember being at my grandparents house and they had dial up internet, and I would just sit on their computer and play this and civ2, though civ2 was a bit advanced for my 10 year old mind without guides and instructions back then.
I briefly worked in an office that due to running specialty programs, had to run run Windows XP and even though this was 2016 the employees still played this. I dont remember the high scores or anything but they were sky high since it'd been running for over a decade.
Now I'm imagining an alternate timeline where Maxis didn't utterly fail at marketing the full product, made an insane amount of money, and prevented themselves from falling into EA's evil grasp.
Lots of early flash games have been lost, for sure. I remember some weird Java-based sci fi RPG that I will never find again. I remember Wiz Kid 2 and 3, and all its spin offs. That squirrel one where you were collecting gems. That first big MMO flash tank game where you could get like 50 people on a map and it blew my mind. Good times.
You should do a video on "Microsoft" products that have been licensed from third-parties, essentially gutted, and rebranded with them taking pretty much all the credit via removing references to the original product/company. Space Cadet Pinball, Microsoft Paint, and Microsoft GS Wavetable (the MIDI synth) are among a few.
If they licensed it and the license allowed it, or outright bought the company that made it, they pretty much can do whatever they want with it. Even MS-DOS wasn't really made by them but they bought out the guy and his company that made it.
and hyperterminal... One of the few competent programs bundled with Windows 95. Discovered years later of course it wasn't an MS product, which is why it was good, and why it disappeared.
This game was only a demo? My entire childhood is a goddamn lie. Years of pissing off my parents and sister alike by always remapping the flippers and dominating the highschores for nothing! What's next, are you going to tell me David Byrne has done anything beyond Like Humans Do?
this wasnt my first PC game (not to unusual now, but i was playing on computers and cruising online since i was 3 or 4 around '95) but it was one of the first PC games i played regularly and to date is my all time favorite pinball game
The moment the video began, I was overwhelmed with memories. I remember spending so many of my precious time on it before getting my first proper PC game, GTA San Andreas. Also, it was a fucking demo. My life is a lie...
i am from romania and in 2006 i got my first PC and in that time romania was not a thnological country and my family is poor for european standards because $>LEI
I was playing Space Cadet all days, until 2006 when some guy told me a game called "Age of Empires III" came out. After installing it, i was like "OH THE GRAPHICS". Some game like that makes my XP computer can only run in like 5-10 fps with the lowest settings. Memories.
One of my fondest memories was playing this demo with my now deceased mother. My mom showed me this game back in 95/96 and I fell in love lol. My mom and I sunk many hours into Space Cadet and made alot of memories along the way. Thanks for covering this Clint.
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I remember when I was 6 1/2 years old playing the standalone space cadet version on my dad's computer back in 2001 and man was that game addicting for me.
Win 10 no longer includes games there free downloads with minesweeper gaining a Chips challenge like adventure mode and Xbox achievements'. Like your first death is one.
This is one of those lovely situations when you played a demo or inferior version of something when you were a kid, then many years later discover a sequel or improved/complete version. You get both the nostalgia factor and also the freshness of something new.
Waves of nostalgia come flooding back! This was the very first pinball game that I played on my Windows XP when I was a kid that kick-started my love for pinball, and it is STILL one of my favorite pinball tables of all time. Space Cadet has transcended time itself to the point where it's fully created in Visual Pinball that is visually stunning. Although the game was only a demo with no multiball feature, it was still fun for me.
Nice review. I remember playing the game on my sh*tty Win ME machine fifteen years ago for the first time. I also used to play it in fullscreen at (the only) 640x480 resolution on my 15″ CRT. Seeing that higher resolution version now just blows my mind. It looks so much more awesome.
So Full Tilt came out two months after Windows 95 did, but the DirectX API wouldn't materialize for like a year. That means it used the old WinG API. Did Microsoft port it to DirectX? Or has the WinG API been kept alive lo these many years by Space Cadet _and virtually nothing else_?
DirectX 1.0 came on September 30, 1995. Full Tilt! Pinball came on October 31, 1995. So it uses DirectX. DirectX 1.0 didn't had Direct3D yet, which is fun to mention.
I would actually be surprised if it used EITHER! About ALL winG did was provide you access to the framebuffer for direct and/or semi direct (palette transitioning) rendering. Handy if you're doing stuff like trying to use your own polygon drawing, depth sorting, or per-pixel rendering for things like raycasting.... it really didn't provide any advantages over just shoving bitmaps on the screen using the plain-Jane windows API. Assuming a static background, there were plenty of calls in Windows for handling the writing of bitmaps to the screen without resorting to directX or WinG... and it was actually fairly speedy at it to. You could easily pass an AND map and OR of your image for per pixel transparency all the way back to Windows 3.0. If it wasn't, programs like Paintbrush, Paint Shop Pro, etc, etc... wouldn't exist. Hell, just look at "Microsoft Arcade" for Win 3.x that didn't need any fancy API just to draw those classic games. You get to "return of Arcade" they're moving more stuff around, but I most verily doubt they used DirectX or WinG for those either! Go back even further to things like the Microsoft Entertainment Packs, and sure those games are more primitive, but the system requirements are even that much lower. (@LRG, not to give you any ideas on stuff to review, hint, hint) These games aren't doing anything that would/should warrant the need of a fancy graphics API above and beyond what even Windows 3.x could deliver. Mostly it just needed enough CPU to keep up. Pinball is a GREAT game for creating on lesser machines, because the board just sits there, and only a handful of things ever move/change per frame. The overhead of implementing such a game is most always entirely in collision detection, angles of deflection, and momentum, not drawing it on screen. Well, unless you're going to make the whole screen scroll like Silverball does... which from a purely technical standpoint is significantly more impressive.
Jason Knight I've written games that use GDI BitBlt calls to draw the screen. It's possible to get a playable framerate, but very hard to get anything like the super-smooth framerate exhibited by Space Cadet Pinball. Add in things like the dynamically scaling ball, and you begin to see a real use case for something like WinG or DX1.
@@MLGGUY420Official maybe. It was cool for like the first 5 mins, then it was boring because there was nothing i knew i could do lol. It was wormhole, bounce, bounce wormhole, repeat. For 15 mins lol
You can redownload it in all its former glory from the internet, and it functions just as well. That's how I can play 3d space cadet pinball on my windows 10 computer in the year of our Lord 2019
I also had Full Tilt Pinball 2, which I had to order direct from the company at the time, as it was the only place I could find a boxed copy. I still have it, and they are also very fun tables.
I swear it was just the other day I commented that these videos are so comfy to watch while eating food, just as my dinner is ready I go to my sub-box and see this. Keep up the good work Clint!
This game was what everybody was playing in secret in the high school computer lab. The administrators never bothered to uninstall it but occasionally you might find the shortcuts deleted, but the game was right there in the usual folder.
Younger people won't probably believe it, but back in the day (in the 90s) you could only get new info on new games through magazines, especially if we were talking about computer games. When I was about 6 years old, I remember my mother bought one of these magazines and there was a lot of info on upcoming titles, and this one (Full Tilt Pinball) was one of them (IIRC they also mentioned the development of Super Mario RPG on a section dedicated to consoles; it was THAT old). However, this was around early '96, and believe or not we would only have a PC at home 2 years later, with my mother acquiring a second brand new PC after another 2 years (around 2000), and by that time it was a Windows ME machine. Yeah, the system was crap, but I was fascinated by the then (new) Windows Media Player and most notably, 3D Pinball. Damn, I spent countless hours playing it, like many people here. It was only some many years after all that (and after other PCs we built), that I found again that old magazine and realized that my beloved 3D Pinball was just a part of a full game, like other "shareware" games of that time. Anyway, sorry for the long text, but so many thanks for this video!
I wish all classic Windows game like Pinball, Internet Checkers, Heart, Spider Solitare, Minesweeper are available on MS Store so I could download them all when I need to. Sometime these game brings my nostalgia back and I feel like to play them again in a time when I want to
You said that the original Space Cadet didn't have multiball... I'm about 98% sure it did. I haven't played it in like..15 years or so, but I distinctly remember it having multiball..
No, Windows Space Cadet does not have multiball. Period. It has extra balls instead. Maybe you were a lucky one to have played the Full Tilt! Pinball version :)
WOAH WOAH WOAH. Judging by the sheer amount of research you have done here, I dare say this is NOT a lazy game review. Rather, it’s pretty damn thorough
Space Cadet has basically transcended time itself to the point where it’s fully recreated in Visual Pinball. There’s a reason why it was the free table over the other two, and that’s because it’s so good. If anything, trying to get the other two lessens the overall quality since, well, they haven’t aged nearly as well design-wise.
Wait, so Microsoft's version was first? Dang. Another point: Technically, EA holds the license to Full Tilt! Pinball, now that Maxis and Cinematronics both went under. My guess is that Microsoft's Pinball Star is a deliberate rip-off of Space Cadet because (and I'm totally guessing on this) that Microsoft may not have the license to the game anymore. It's technically EA's property now, and we'll probably need to shout at them as well. (117 million on Space Cadet, by the way.)
Yep, EA owns all Maxis properties, but they have since 1997! Licensing isn't the issue. Also, Pinball Star is not an official replacement either, it is by "Rolling Donut Apps" and not Microsoft.
Man I wish I knew about this full pack. I played the included version till the flippers fell off. Friend of mine found a way to control the ball with the mouse. Killed that high score at school. Love your work Clint.
I hated the not being able to use both shift keys too with Space Cadet, so I ended up using the 'NT Kernel Toys' that Microsoft had for download for Windows XP and remapped one Shift to Crtl so it'd work with the built in remapping.
Recently, I found my old laptop that ran XP, simply copied it off the laptop onto an external ssd, then copied it onto my new PC with windows 10, runs perfectly!
They should. I mean, they like making money right? If they charge $5 or so for it, I am sure they will sell a lot, and it should not cost them much at all to put it up for sale.
As a bored kid one time, I read the help manual -- it mentioned the existence of other boards, which left me very confused. This clears it up! This game was the ultimate time waster for me on computers when I was waiting for something, I had little interest for the various Solitaire games or Minesweeper.
Aye, i remember this! My dad used to play this for kicks when he wasn't working. We'd sometimes compete on who was better. Then i bough a compilation CD featuring many games from different developers (an obviously pirated disk) that had a collection of three pinball games, among which were Space Cadet (with a different space ship art in the side-menu), Skulduggery, and Dragon's Keep. I'm pretty sure the same company released several others, but i only know these three.
I think the older Pinball Fantasies was the first pinball game on PC I tried. I sure played Space Cadet a while, but Slam Tilt in 1997 absolutely blew my socks off. Amazingly, Slam Tilt works okay on win10 and I still play it today now and then.
I've got Full Tilt 1 and 2, although I'm not a huge fan of either, but that's more so because of each tables ruleset. Even though they try to play like real tables, which I like, I've never been able to get a good understanding of the rules, but maybe I just haven't taken enough time to learn them... Would have liked to see you delve into the rules a bit. Oh, also, the layout of Dragon's Keep is an almost direct copy of the Jurassic Park pinball machine!
Was more of Microsoft Pinball Arcade guy myself, but I can't deny that I didn't while away a good chunk of time playing Space Cadet every so often. Even with all the great pinball sims out there nowadays, there is a recreation of good ol' Space Cadet available for Future Pinball, and I keep it alongside all the others in my digital arcade for giggles and the memories.
Pinball FX2 is quite good and very pretty and has tons of tables (60 or so), although I actually prefer old school pinballs, like Pinball Dreams, Pinball Fantasies Deluxe and Epic Pinball.
oh shit! this brought back memories. When i was a kid, my dad had this game on his laptop and would let my brother and I play during plane rides. Thank you for reminding me of those wonderful times.
You should check out the Pro Pinball games if you haven't yet. I always thought they were super ahead of their time for 1995-1999 with its graphics and physics. :)
![Full Tilt! Pinball - Space Cadet (Fleet Admiral Speedrun - 13:58.1) [Former WR]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_jz1By8r4Ss/mqdefault.jpg)
You know your marketing strategy failed when an entire generation was raised playing your demo without realizing it was a demo.
AFAIK in winrar's case, that was intended. Makes people rely on it, so they can charge the businesses that want to use it. Or something along those lines.
@powerChriZ Tallywort is right, WinRAR relies on people using the software for free
@@bigshrekhorner yup, there was a yt video in my recommended about it's infinite day trial.
Ambient Relaxation haha i know They most be proud
I remember watching that... I don't see why people don't just use 7zip
I wrote this. Back in 1995, approximately. I used the art from the Maxis/Cinematronics game and some of the logic but a lot of the original game was in ASM and because I was in NT at the time, anything I did had to run on PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha, and x86. So I ported/rewrote the game from scratch which is why it's different than the Maxis games. There were other tables indeed (Skullduggery comes to mind) but I didn't have the art for anything other than this table, so it's all I did.
I was writing Task Manager at home about the same time, then switched and TM became my day job for a few weeks (months?) while Space Cadet went on the back burner, but then I got it all in in time for the beta.
As I recall the exec, Jim Allchin, was very supportive of the effort because he wanted something "cool" to showcase NT 4.
Thankyou for introduce millions of people to computer gaming.
Not even gonna lie I didn’t believe you until I did my research. You sir are a legend. Thank you for making the first pc game I ever played along with Task Manager.
LGR should pin your comment.
Clint, please collab with this guy!
You’re a legend!
It is like finding out that Minesweeper had a story mode.
The next thing someone will tell us that the you could actually control the screensaver maze.
Wat
@@mogyesz9
That would be sick! Always wanted to play that maze game.
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Calculator had a pretty good campaign mode but it was overshadowed by all the Notepad DLC
“In 1995, this was pretty awesome stuff”
When I was at school in 2005, it was still awesome stuff
In 2024, it’s still awesome stuff.
Wait. The game was just a demo? I spent hours playing a demo? Well worth it.
Well not really
They should sell the full version on Steam, I know I would buy it if the price isn't expensive.
Because you had no idea.
rick25810 dose not exist.
rick25810 i'd buy it if it was under $20 or if it was free
This game was used as a reward in my 4th grade class.
I don't remember the specifics, but if we did well enough on daily work, we would be given an automatic 100 for test-grade and be allowed to play this instead. Lots of students earned this right and there was a long waiting list.
Now that's motivation. Kudos to that teacher!
I used to play this game at my Grandparents. Everyone in the family was on the scoreboard and I think my Grandmother got tired of people 1-uping her high score. So one day to settle the matter she absolutely skunked this game. She got some ridiculous score that added up to hours of unbroken play time lol she was undefeated
The roe Team go, grandma!! 😂👍🏼
Probably my best memories with my grandpa was going back and forth trying to beat the others high score.
Joseph Sanders was it often you passed him?
@@KazzArie Maaaybe once a week, but he would have a new high score by the next day most of the time.
Gamer grandma
If you quickly type "hidden test" as the game table boots up you can drag the pinball around with the mouse
I did this so much back in the day. So much 9,999,999,999,999 score!
Why did I never know about this!!!!
@@hrgwea how could you?
hidden [space] test
Never knew about that. Just tried it. It was epic.
There's more to Space Cadet!? Dude you just blew my fucking mind. I needed to catch my breath after hearing that.
It's very rare I get 30 seconds into a video and have that happen, but this did it.
"This version is only a demo for the true Space Cadet!"
Too bad! The "demo" will always hold a special place in our hearts and be recognized as the TRUE Space Cadet!
for it was the TRUE Cadet......I'll see myself out
Nostalgia
I feel like you're saying that in a prideful way but that really does suck for the people who made it.
True, Space Cadet is not complete without the smiling feller in the spaceship.
@@LUNITICWILL Yes I get it.
Congratulations. Someone got it.
Don't know what to say
That little information window at 1:45 is such a cool editing touch. Way better than an annotation.
Thanks!
I was just about to say the same thing!! kinda wish it had a mouse come on screen to x it out.
Agreed!
I beta tested this game in Texas way back when.
I wasn't trying to impress anyone. I was merely reminiscing which is the point of this video.
I dont think he was being sarcastic. This game is a legend and probably one of the most popular games by copies ever. People in all continents have played this, regardless of social class, race or religion.
i liked every comment in this post because everyone is right, even when someone was wrong that someone was also right in some regards lol
oh my god, my childhood.
I played the shit out of this game along with crystal caliburn.
Mine as well
I remember being at my grandparents house and they had dial up internet, and I would just sit on their computer and play this and civ2, though civ2 was a bit advanced for my 10 year old mind without guides and instructions back then.
yup ruined childhood
Played this so much on my school's computer lab back in the day.
Good times.
Not gonna lie, I thought I was playing the full game back in the day. The fact there's an ACTUAL full version of this blows my mind.
Jesus, the memories. Forget solitaire, Space Cadet is where it's at.
I briefly worked in an office that due to running specialty programs, had to run run Windows XP and even though this was 2016 the employees still played this. I dont remember the high scores or anything but they were sky high since it'd been running for over a decade.
MINESWEEPER!!!
My mom is really big on Solitaire; I'm more of minesweeper and Daggerfall guy myself
@@slavvingsquats2146 Daggerfall wasn't included on Windows machines by default lmao.
"One of these things is not like the others"
@@JazzyWaffles I know I'm just saying I liked playing it as a kid
Now I'm imagining an alternate timeline where Maxis didn't utterly fail at marketing the full product, made an insane amount of money, and prevented themselves from falling into EA's evil grasp.
This is probably the best and most well-known demo of all time
More like worst demo of all time. Almost no one even knew it was a demo for anything!
Not even close. Doom wins that award any day of the week! It was actually a good game, too, unlike this unplayable piece of rubbish.
@@Mattrophiedyou probably don't know the 2000s
Lol i always played this if internet wouldn't work well
Miss the old internet, where quality shockwave and flash games are at everywhere :(
Lots of early flash games have been lost, for sure. I remember some weird Java-based sci fi RPG that I will never find again. I remember Wiz Kid 2 and 3, and all its spin offs. That squirrel one where you were collecting gems. That first big MMO flash tank game where you could get like 50 people on a map and it blew my mind. Good times.
The old shockwave was uncontested for games.
>quality
You're funny
Shockwave and flash... holy.
Good old Miniclip
You should do a video on "Microsoft" products that have been licensed from third-parties, essentially gutted, and rebranded with them taking pretty much all the credit via removing references to the original product/company. Space Cadet Pinball, Microsoft Paint, and Microsoft GS Wavetable (the MIDI synth) are among a few.
Everyone knows that Space Cadet was made by Maxis as it's credited in the About window in Soace Cadet
1995 Maxis Game, 1999 updated for Windows 2000
paint was supposed to be free as a limited time offer in 1985
Yeah the Microsoft GS Wavetable is just low quality Roland sc-55
If they licensed it and the license allowed it, or outright bought the company that made it, they pretty much can do whatever they want with it. Even MS-DOS wasn't really made by them but they bought out the guy and his company that made it.
and hyperterminal... One of the few competent programs bundled with Windows 95. Discovered years later of course it wasn't an MS product, which is why it was good, and why it disappeared.
This game was only a demo? My entire childhood is a goddamn lie. Years of pissing off my parents and sister alike by always remapping the flippers and dominating the highschores for nothing! What's next, are you going to tell me David Byrne has done anything beyond Like Humans Do?
Draydince Man, if this is a joke, it's subtle as all get out.
Have you heard about Santa yet?
How nostalgic
Damn I forgot about "Like Humans Do"
Counting Talking Heads or no?
I'm 18 and this was one of my first PC games. This and Freddy Fish. 😂
mine was snake
+Gamelog no i had it for a really old windows machine my neighbor had given me
Freddi fish yes
this wasnt my first PC game (not to unusual now, but i was playing on computers and cruising online since i was 3 or 4 around '95) but it was one of the first PC games i played regularly and to date is my all time favorite pinball game
Darian Alexander this was mine too
The moment the video began, I was overwhelmed with memories. I remember spending so many of my precious time on it before getting my first proper PC game, GTA San Andreas.
Also, it was a fucking demo. My life is a lie...
"George LGRR Martin" cracked me up, also this wasn't my first computer game, but it was one of my first experiences with any kind of pinball.
I remember playing this game!
Me too!
@@pokemonpreadythepokemonmaniac I still play works perfectly in modern windows and Linux too
What.... it was a demo
whatever i remember when i play this game back in 2006
thanks LGR for bring back some childhood memories back, good video
i am from romania and in 2006 i got my first PC and in that time romania was not a thnological country and my family is poor for european standards because $>LEI
i played back in 2002
I was playing Space Cadet all days, until 2006 when some guy told me a game called "Age of Empires III" came out.
After installing it, i was like "OH THE GRAPHICS".
Some game like that makes my XP computer can only run in like 5-10 fps with the lowest settings.
Memories.
Played in 2008
Ceapa Verde lol și eu sunt român
One of my fondest memories was playing this demo with my now deceased mother. My mom showed me this game back in 95/96 and I fell in love lol. My mom and I sunk many hours into Space Cadet and made alot of memories along the way. Thanks for covering this Clint.
I spent hundreds of hours on this, No joke I had it on my old windows XP :D
Same here brother.
Yup. :)
I played it on Windows me Windows 2000 Windows Xp all separate computers
I was so sad when they stopped including it in Windows.
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I remember when I was 6 1/2 years old playing the standalone space cadet version on my dad's computer back in 2001 and man was that game addicting for me.
If they did add it back to 10, it would have microtransactions like solitaire does.
At the very least, ads all over the place. When I first booted up Solitaire in Win10 and saw a commercial for Twix, I was floored... ugh.
I just found a way to install all the old Windows games back ... I hate the metro technology stack
Win 10 no longer includes games there free downloads with minesweeper gaining a Chips challenge like adventure mode and Xbox achievements'. Like your first death is one.
Well, I found i in the app store for free, so... :D
If you just want the demo, copy the old .exe and fire it up.
This is one of those lovely situations when you played a demo or inferior version of something when you were a kid, then many years later discover a sequel or improved/complete version. You get both the nostalgia factor and also the freshness of something new.
This, Roller Coaster Tycoon and Rayman 2 was my life.
Rayman 2 is way better than Rayman 3.
Snoop Doge gothic 1-2
I always wanted Roller-coaster Tycoon, but my parents got me Prison Tycoon. Was still fun though.
Age of empires? Starcraft? Oh so many memories 😁
And judging by your avatar, Deus Ex too, right? Good choices all around.
Waves of nostalgia come flooding back! This was the very first pinball game that I played on my Windows XP when I was a kid that kick-started my love for pinball, and it is STILL one of my favorite pinball tables of all time. Space Cadet has transcended time itself to the point where it's fully created in Visual Pinball that is visually stunning. Although the game was only a demo with no multiball feature, it was still fun for me.
Nice review. I remember playing the game on my sh*tty Win ME machine fifteen years ago for the first time. I also used to play it in fullscreen at (the only) 640x480 resolution on my 15″ CRT. Seeing that higher resolution version now just blows my mind. It looks so much more awesome.
I never ran my computers at low resolution. It does explain why old games like this looked tiny on my home computers compared to the ones at school
Same bro I'm shocked this game is 1024x768 I thought it's only 640x480
Put Win2000 on it. It will wake up and play this game at a wooping 8k 60fps resolution.
So Full Tilt came out two months after Windows 95 did, but the DirectX API wouldn't materialize for like a year. That means it used the old WinG API.
Did Microsoft port it to DirectX? Or has the WinG API been kept alive lo these many years by Space Cadet _and virtually nothing else_?
A good question that I do not know the answer to! Hopefully someone comes along that does :)
DirectX 1.0 came on September 30, 1995.
Full Tilt! Pinball came on October 31, 1995.
So it uses DirectX. DirectX 1.0 didn't had Direct3D yet, which is fun to mention.
I would actually be surprised if it used EITHER!
About ALL winG did was provide you access to the framebuffer for direct and/or semi direct (palette transitioning) rendering. Handy if you're doing stuff like trying to use your own polygon drawing, depth sorting, or per-pixel rendering for things like raycasting.... it really didn't provide any advantages over just shoving bitmaps on the screen using the plain-Jane windows API.
Assuming a static background, there were plenty of calls in Windows for handling the writing of bitmaps to the screen without resorting to directX or WinG... and it was actually fairly speedy at it to. You could easily pass an AND map and OR of your image for per pixel transparency all the way back to Windows 3.0. If it wasn't, programs like Paintbrush, Paint Shop Pro, etc, etc... wouldn't exist.
Hell, just look at "Microsoft Arcade" for Win 3.x that didn't need any fancy API just to draw those classic games. You get to "return of Arcade" they're moving more stuff around, but I most verily doubt they used DirectX or WinG for those either! Go back even further to things like the Microsoft Entertainment Packs, and sure those games are more primitive, but the system requirements are even that much lower. (@LRG, not to give you any ideas on stuff to review, hint, hint)
These games aren't doing anything that would/should warrant the need of a fancy graphics API above and beyond what even Windows 3.x could deliver. Mostly it just needed enough CPU to keep up.
Pinball is a GREAT game for creating on lesser machines, because the board just sits there, and only a handful of things ever move/change per frame. The overhead of implementing such a game is most always entirely in collision detection, angles of deflection, and momentum, not drawing it on screen.
Well, unless you're going to make the whole screen scroll like Silverball does... which from a purely technical standpoint is significantly more impressive.
Jason Knight I've written games that use GDI BitBlt calls to draw the screen. It's possible to get a playable framerate, but very hard to get anything like the super-smooth framerate exhibited by Space Cadet Pinball. Add in things like the dynamically scaling ball, and you begin to see a real use case for something like WinG or DX1.
Jason Knight Also, Return of Arcade does in fact use WinG.
When I was in 5th grade I was playing Space Cadet and the ball got stuck between 3 bumpers for 10-20 minutes
When i was young, the ball kept going out of the wormhole, bounce around and go right back in for like 15 mins
+Jake Schmidt Lucky You!
@@MLGGUY420Official maybe. It was cool for like the first 5 mins, then it was boring because there was nothing i knew i could do lol. It was wormhole, bounce, bounce wormhole, repeat. For 15 mins lol
The game demo has a debug mode. just type hidden test and you can control the ball by click and hold
@@MLGGUY420Official sweeet
The sound effects in this game are legendary
That clip of Clint playing Doom with the buttons made my day haha
cloudesuu lolololololololol... At least that part was anyway...
Gets tired quickly? Getting a high score was 90% of my childhood
Nobody is going to talk about Clint saying "insatiable quest for booty"?
.........
No wonder our gen loves to eat ass
We already knew he was a thrustmaster.
Don't even get me started on "Benedict Dragonsnatch".
Nah, I prefer to talk on Quest for Butter
You can redownload it in all its former glory from the internet, and it functions just as well. That's how I can play 3d space cadet pinball on my windows 10 computer in the year of our Lord 2019
Loved this game! I installed this on every computer in my school!
And on this episode of "why is this in my recommended?"
We have a game from the deepest parts of our memory
my freaking childhood here. God what a great pinball game.
I also had Full Tilt Pinball 2, which I had to order direct from the company at the time, as it was the only place I could find a boxed copy. I still have it, and they are also very fun tables.
I swear it was just the other day I commented that these videos are so comfy to watch while eating food, just as my dinner is ready I go to my sub-box and see this. Keep up the good work Clint!
Enjoy the food (and the video!)
This game was what everybody was playing in secret in the high school computer lab. The administrators never bothered to uninstall it but occasionally you might find the shortcuts deleted, but the game was right there in the usual folder.
this game is probably one of my earliest memories of playing a game on a computer. such a fun game and memories.
You’re giving me so much feels to my childhood, love your channel
HAH, played the hell out of this as a kid.
Younger people won't probably believe it, but back in the day (in the 90s) you could only get new info on new games through magazines, especially if we were talking about computer games. When I was about 6 years old, I remember my mother bought one of these magazines and there was a lot of info on upcoming titles, and this one (Full Tilt Pinball) was one of them (IIRC they also mentioned the development of Super Mario RPG on a section dedicated to consoles; it was THAT old). However, this was around early '96, and believe or not we would only have a PC at home 2 years later, with my mother acquiring a second brand new PC after another 2 years (around 2000), and by that time it was a Windows ME machine. Yeah, the system was crap, but I was fascinated by the then (new) Windows Media Player and most notably, 3D Pinball. Damn, I spent countless hours playing it, like many people here. It was only some many years after all that (and after other PCs we built), that I found again that old magazine and realized that my beloved 3D Pinball was just a part of a full game, like other "shareware" games of that time.
Anyway, sorry for the long text, but so many thanks for this video!
I'd play this when the internet went out.
I'd play this & modded KSP.
Dude same lol.
Same
Same lol, this is my first PC game before I knew a big titles of pc game
I wish all classic Windows game like Pinball, Internet Checkers, Heart, Spider Solitare, Minesweeper are available on MS Store so I could download them all when I need to. Sometime these game brings my nostalgia back and I feel like to play them again in a time when I want to
i have never wanted to play a crap pinball pc game more :)
thanks 4 blowing my mind!
You said that the original Space Cadet didn't have multiball... I'm about 98% sure it did. I haven't played it in like..15 years or so, but I distinctly remember it having multiball..
No, Windows Space Cadet does not have multiball. Period. It has extra balls instead. Maybe you were a lucky one to have played the Full Tilt! Pinball version :)
nope, it didn't. i have it right here in front of me
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I also played the multiball version and it wasn't the Full Tilt! version either..
I remember the same. I distinctly recollect my version having multiball function
Yaaay!
WOAH WOAH WOAH. Judging by the sheer amount of research you have done here, I dare say this is NOT a lazy game review. Rather, it’s pretty damn thorough
It is also one of the rare games that starts up lightning fast on Windows 9x, but damn slow on NT-based Windows like WinXP.
Win9x held on by its fingernails for as long as it did for a reason. NT was and is a pig
Space Cadet has basically transcended time itself to the point where it’s fully recreated in Visual Pinball. There’s a reason why it was the free table over the other two, and that’s because it’s so good. If anything, trying to get the other two lessens the overall quality since, well, they haven’t aged nearly as well design-wise.
Wait, so Microsoft's version was first? Dang.
Another point: Technically, EA holds the license to Full Tilt! Pinball, now that Maxis and Cinematronics both went under. My guess is that Microsoft's Pinball Star is a deliberate rip-off of Space Cadet because (and I'm totally guessing on this) that Microsoft may not have the license to the game anymore. It's technically EA's property now, and we'll probably need to shout at them as well.
(117 million on Space Cadet, by the way.)
Yep, EA owns all Maxis properties, but they have since 1997! Licensing isn't the issue.
Also, Pinball Star is not an official replacement either, it is by "Rolling Donut Apps" and not Microsoft.
I didn't even knew that there is an official port of 3d space cadet pinball and you and it's legit you can actually play it with out annoying ads too
i remember space cadet having mutiball mode on the demo one when i played it
Ooh, yeah! I totally forgot about multiball mode!
Oh those sounds just put a smile on my face ❤️
I love getting the entire story from LGR.
The Visual Pinball recreation is incredible. Can even play Space Cadet in a digital cabinet, like a real pin.
3:17 Oh my god the nostalgia.
Man I wish I knew about this full pack. I played the included version till the flippers fell off. Friend of mine found a way to control the ball with the mouse. Killed that high score at school. Love your work Clint.
I hated the not being able to use both shift keys too with Space Cadet, so I ended up using the 'NT Kernel Toys' that Microsoft had for download for Windows XP and remapped one Shift to Crtl so it'd work with the built in remapping.
Ooh, nice solution.
Recently, I found my old laptop that ran XP, simply copied it off the laptop onto an external ssd, then copied it onto my new PC with windows 10, runs perfectly!
You guys think that EA will put it on STEAM?
I don't know how likely it is, but I'd love to see re-releases of this and all the other old Maxis titles!
They released DA in GOG even...So i guess it is not entirely impossible if people ask for it.
They should. I mean, they like making money right? If they charge $5 or so for it, I am sure they will sell a lot, and it should not cost them much at all to put it up for sale.
If you want something similar try Pinball Deluxe on Steam Alexander :)
And an additional 5.99 for each bumper. 16.99 for the plunger. 20 if you want the deluxe one that gives you an instant 10 million point upon launch.
As a bored kid one time, I read the help manual -- it mentioned the existence of other boards, which left me very confused. This clears it up!
This game was the ultimate time waster for me on computers when I was waiting for something, I had little interest for the various Solitaire games or Minesweeper.
I remember playing this game from 1999 - 2007. Great times...
Dragon's Keep was my favorite. I did manage to slay the dragon once.
Aye, i remember this! My dad used to play this for kicks when he wasn't working. We'd sometimes compete on who was better. Then i bough a compilation CD featuring many games from different developers (an obviously pirated disk) that had a collection of three pinball games, among which were Space Cadet (with a different space ship art in the side-menu), Skulduggery, and Dragon's Keep. I'm pretty sure the same company released several others, but i only know these three.
A daycare I used to go to after school had a Windows XP computer that had SimCity 2000 and Space Cadet
Oooooohhhhh that opening Space Cadet sound...oh it takes me back. Great vid, would have never known it was just a demo.
*My recommendations are great.😁*
Like you said that load up sound takes me back! :D
Thanks for another great video!
I once got over 7 million points, assuming I remember correctly, I have no idea where that old computer went so I can't check
johannes nordeng I did too...
I think the older Pinball Fantasies was the first pinball game on PC I tried.
I sure played Space Cadet a while, but Slam Tilt in 1997 absolutely blew my socks off.
Amazingly, Slam Tilt works okay on win10 and I still play it today now and then.
Isn't it sad that if you're a game designer, you know full well that your game is almost definitely not going to be played as much as this?
@@900bot2 modern multiplayer games begs to differ.
I remember getting full tilt for Christmas one year. All the hours spent playing that game.
I've got Full Tilt 1 and 2, although I'm not a huge fan of either, but that's more so because of each tables ruleset. Even though they try to play like real tables, which I like, I've never been able to get a good understanding of the rules, but maybe I just haven't taken enough time to learn them... Would have liked to see you delve into the rules a bit.
Oh, also, the layout of Dragon's Keep is an almost direct copy of the Jurassic Park pinball machine!
Was more of Microsoft Pinball Arcade guy myself, but I can't deny that I didn't while away a good chunk of time playing Space Cadet every so often. Even with all the great pinball sims out there nowadays, there is a recreation of good ol' Space Cadet available for Future Pinball, and I keep it alongside all the others in my digital arcade for giggles and the memories.
And I just installed it last night as this video is recent. Perfect fucking timing, ain't it?
One of my favorite PC games as a kid! Thank you for doing this LGR, I had no idea I was playing a demo version for so many years. T^T.
So I was playing the full version dang.
You do a very good job with quality and consistency LGR. Your success is well-deserved!
Space cadet: Makes 1 billion sales in 1 year
Half life 1: Makes 9.3 million sales in over 6 years
Logic
Julian Natale Well, it was packaged with windows
Julian Natale
it isnt illogical. think about the times those came out and how one of them was bundled.
Also, Half Life was only for people that can stand FPS genre, while Pinball genre has much greater appeal.
When I found it for W10 I was incredibly happy.
So, if you feel that this game hasn't held up super well, what would you say is the best, more modern PC Pinball game?
The Pinball Arcade
Pinball FX2 is quite good and very pretty and has tons of tables (60 or so), although I actually prefer old school pinballs, like Pinball Dreams, Pinball Fantasies Deluxe and Epic Pinball.
PERILEX Well, your opinion. To me, it's pretty decent.
Visual Pinball
Pro Pinball: TimeShock! The ULTRA Edition
They day my middle school updated from 95 to 2000 was the best day of my life, this game is why. Thanks for all the info!
I used to play this when my internet stopped working :')
oh shit! this brought back memories. When i was a kid, my dad had this game on his laptop and would let my brother and I play during plane rides. Thank you for reminding me of those wonderful times.
Please cover the origins of Minesweeper and/or Solitare.
2:36 AM...Wow you must really love playing Space Cadet.
You should check out the Pro Pinball games if you haven't yet. I always thought they were super ahead of their time for 1995-1999 with its graphics and physics. :)
Don:Ellis Music I swear I've been nagging him about this for years. I'm about ready to mail him a box-set of Timeshock, BRUSA, and Mediocre Journey.
OMG THIS IS SO NOSTALGIC FOR ME. THANK YOU FOR CREATING THIS MASTER PEICE OF A VIDEO.
4:17 “an insatiable quest for booty” story of my life
I had the sudden urge to search this up and was happy to see you cover this
I remember that i had crushed the last high score in this game on the school computer back in high school 😂😂