Thanks for the video. I've had all sorts of problems with that can clip. You noted that you had some tricks. Do you talk about the tricks in any of your videos?
@@waltergist8923 the most common thing I see that people have done in the past was to shave a little bit or clip a little bit off the end of the spring clip. Just about a 16th of an inch maybe. Every now and then I do find some that are as issued from the factory. Some of these are tougher than others but what I do is work them in as much as I can into the groove and then slam the edge of the barrel down on that wooden tabletop I work on. The wood is soft enough so no damage is done to the barrel, but hard enough that often it can pop the clip in. It can take a while to get it done, and you have to work slow and patiently. It is my suspicion that they use some kind of hydraulic ram to attach that clip at the factory and probably just slightly bend over the edges of the barrel to hold the clip in better.
@@Rockisland1903 Thanks for the advice. I need to do the four spring motor on my Credenza so I may get to try this. I worked on the is machine many years ago and I got it done but it was not fun. I'm beginning to worry that at my age, 78. I may not have the hand strength left to get through a four spring motor so I may have to throw in the towel and look and send the two cans out for a shop to service or replace the spring. Again,thanks for your help.
@@waltergist8923 I don’t recall, but I probably do. Much of it comes from a lifetime spent rebuilding things a lot more complex than a gramophone motor.
Don't ever ever ever shorten those spring clips, people who do it really wind me up (pun)! It's not the spring tension that does the holding but the pressure from the ends being butted up together. I've seen them when they've been shortened and the hydraulic pressure of the grease when the spring is wound and unwound will force the end plate out of the barrel and it'll be rattling around with grease all over the place inside the cabinet! If it was the right size to be in there in the first place then it's the right size/length to go back in. If you cant get it back in without shortening it then there's something very wrong, probably you've bent the barrel out of shape. If you've shortened one and it doesn't eventually pop out again then you've just been very lucky! I always manage to get them back in without 'modification'...as they say, if at first you don't succeed, try try and try again!
@@philthehmk8752 I would say I find them shortened about 70% of the time, and it’s not a sin just Victrola doctors did as I find it on HMV also. Most of the stuff I work on hasn’t been touched in a couple of lifetimes. It must’ve been a common thing among repair guys back in the day. I hate finding things like that because at this point there’s nothing I could do to put it back to right unless I happen to have a parts motor with an intact barrel clip on it.
Thanks for the video. I've had all sorts of problems with that can clip. You noted that you had some tricks. Do you talk about the tricks in any of your videos?
@@waltergist8923 the most common thing I see that people have done in the past was to shave a little bit or clip a little bit off the end of the spring clip. Just about a 16th of an inch maybe. Every now and then I do find some that are as issued from the factory. Some of these are tougher than others but what I do is work them in as much as I can into the groove and then slam the edge of the barrel down on that wooden tabletop I work on. The wood is soft enough so no damage is done to the barrel, but hard enough that often it can pop the clip in. It can take a while to get it done, and you have to work slow and patiently. It is my suspicion that they use some kind of hydraulic ram to attach that clip at the factory and probably just slightly bend over the edges of the barrel to hold the clip in better.
@@Rockisland1903 Thanks for the advice. I need to do the four spring motor on my Credenza so I may get to try this. I worked on the is machine many years ago and I got it done but it was not fun. I'm beginning to worry that at my age, 78. I may not have the hand strength left to get through a four spring motor so I may have to throw in the towel and look and send the two cans out for a shop to service or replace the spring. Again,thanks for your help.
@@waltergist8923 I don’t recall, but I probably do. Much of it comes from a lifetime spent rebuilding things a lot more complex than a gramophone motor.
Don't ever ever ever shorten those spring clips, people who do it really wind me up (pun)! It's not the spring tension that does the holding but the pressure from the ends being butted up together. I've seen them when they've been shortened and the hydraulic pressure of the grease when the spring is wound and unwound will force the end plate out of the barrel and it'll be rattling around with grease all over the place inside the cabinet! If it was the right size to be in there in the first place then it's the right size/length to go back in. If you cant get it back in without shortening it then there's something very wrong, probably you've bent the barrel out of shape. If you've shortened one and it doesn't eventually pop out again then you've just been very lucky! I always manage to get them back in without 'modification'...as they say, if at first you don't succeed, try try and try again!
@@philthehmk8752 I would say I find them shortened about 70% of the time, and it’s not a sin just Victrola doctors did as I find it on HMV also. Most of the stuff I work on hasn’t been touched in a couple of lifetimes. It must’ve been a common thing among repair guys back in the day. I hate finding things like that because at this point there’s nothing I could do to put it back to right unless I happen to have a parts motor with an intact barrel clip on it.