Hell I've had drunken blackouts and come round when I'm still up and about. You just seem to be transported a few hours in time into the future with no idea how you got there. In a different club/pub/party than you were seemingly seconds ago. Suddenly realising your in bed with someone. Or in the back of a police van or hospital. Been there done that to all of the above.@@Oldiesyoungies
@Oldiesyoungies Blackouts are real. Ethanol depresses almost every brain function, and that includes memory. Although I do agree that many a hungover person has claimed blackout to avoid responsibility for whatever they did or said while drunk.
@@ExpatChef71 Oh yes. It's not so much that we forget what happened, rather memories are never made in the first place. Long-term memory storage bugs out.
As an ex bartender who used to drink a LOT I can promise you that having no memories after several drinks is very common. Total blackout that I had no idea how I got home is quite rare. But many parties were turned to a "slide show" in my memory. Not bragging. But it happens.
I'm an alcoholic, I used to drink heavily, up to two months long binges. It culminated in an attempted suicide, I was in rehab and I'm sober almost three years. Never coming back (I hope). And as my alcoholism progressed, less and less booze was needed for me to not remember anything. Of course, my case is probably a bit extreme, however many folks who I used to drink with, who weren't as deep in the disease as me, could experience blackouts pretty regularly. It didn't even have to be a special occasion, just a regular Tuesday. A couple of beers, a couple of shots and they couldn't remember crap.
Never get drunk alone is good stance. Military colleagues used the expression 'drink to remember, don't drink to forget' is another one that stuck with me.
I don't drink any more but, I don't know, the odd solo session is rather enjoyable in my remembering. Except for the time I set the kitchen on fire... Of course, it needs music and usually cooking/cleaning (turn cooker off at wall)/pottering. Some social media, perhaps. And, I've never once woken up in a pool of my own discharge - which is remarkable. Or fallen down the stairs - also remarkable. It's the post dipso depression I can't do any more - particularly now it's paired with anxieties about conflagration.
Exactly couldn’t agree anymore. This was a major reason I stopped getting drunk in the company of a friend who would insist on reminding me what I’d said and done whilst drunk.
Alcohol is a hard drug if you follow the logic for other hard drugs… can get you extremely intoxicated, can cause chemical addictions, withdraws can kill you, is literally poison, etc
About 15 years ago, some friends decided they needed to get me drunk, so took me out and paid for drinks. They discovered that when I get drunk, it doesn't reveal my inner uninhibited party animal; instead, I get quiet and even more serious than usual. They never bothered trying to get me drunk again after that.
Lloyd: Just sit here, I'll go around the side and explain this bit next. Woman: But I can't see you **Lloyd pulls a rope** over thereeeeeeeee **woman disappears beyond horizon**
You should never drink when you’re unhappy. You should only drink in good company, for leisure, to celebrate. I like a drink but have gone weeks without it. I normally don’t drink during lent. Ive always followed that rule. I got it from reading some GK Chesterton. “Drink because you are happy, but never because you are miserable. Never drink when you are wretched without it, or you will be like the grey-faced gin-drinker in the slum; but drink when you would be happy without it, and you will be like the laughing peasant of Italy. Never drink because you need it, for this is rational drinking, and the way to death and hell. But drink because you do not need it, for this is irrational drinking, and the ancient health of the world.”
@@fgoogleinthea7475 I wish, no. I was just in the wrong bed in the wrong part of the building. And my boots were in another room entirely. So clearly I went from place to place and slept in someone elses bed
Some mine range from "How am I still alive?" to "I can't believe I don't have a felony record". Unfortunately I have known too many people who can't answer those questions. There are good reasons for me not really drinking anymore.
Worst part "killing hangovers" that can last 2-4 days of pure suffering just because those 5 hours of kinda fun you drank to excuse yourself out of your sadness that IT DOESNT GO AWAY. I catched 1 DUI, lost one job (was for the better, i had 2) but i ruined a bunch of relationships because i would just be too tired to put efforts towards them. Seek help people, alcoholism will defeat you before it defeats your depression, be good to yourself you deserve it too
I have heard this advice when it comes to drinking. "Never get drunk when you are sad, only when you are happy". I think that is a good advice. CAn't remember who said that to me.
Same with any drug that alters perception really. Your own frame of mind going in will be what dictates how good or bad your experience is going to be.
I chugged a whole 750ml of vodka one night and I cannot recall the entire night but the things I was told I did were remembered by everyone else very vividly
Someone said chug and I said sure why not and by the time he said WAIT NO I was already three quarters down and was curious to see if I could finish it. I went to bed a half hour later and woke up in my underwear. Apparently very shortly after laying down I got right back up, burst out of the room, bouncing off the walls, and puked on multiple people's beds, and had to be thrown into a bathroom where I proceeded to sit in the tub with the shower on the hottest heat while fully clothed. From this and the other stories I was told, I'm very glad I cannot recall any of it.
@@blunderingfool I doubt his/her body absobed and digested the whole 750ml of vodka, half of it probably came up again an hour later. Still, it's quite alot and would knock anyone who isnt a seasoned (read alcoholic) drinker out.
My suspicions are confirmed, Lindy is a certified square. If he experienced how people drink down in Portugal, especially during warmer months he would screan.
It's quite the experience having the most emotional talk of your life, tears included, with your best mate and the next day neither of you remember what you talked about but still, ABSOLUTELY sure that you DID have a talk.
i have literally been black out drunk on many many many occasions . i have no memories of vast parts of my nocturnal youth . i have slept with women, stolen vehicles, had fist fights and even climbed into bed with my new girlfriends mother all whilst totally blacked out . i swear on every ounce of my being that at best i have one or two blurry still images in my head . the final straw was the violence . i was assaulting my friends and even hospitalised a man i had a fight with all while i have no single memory of the event . i have had to remain sober since the age of 20 one day at a time , as i was a total nightmare and when your friends are hesitant to have a casual lunch beer with you on a friday afternoon for fear of being assaulted or caught up in a car chase or when your brother buys handcuffs and zip ties to take to your bbq and issues them to your friends and instructs them to pin me down and restrain me if needed , you know its time to stop drinking
Yeah alcohol just isnt good for everyone. Good you found out its not for you before something even worse happened. Personally stopped drinking spirits after my 20's because it made me irritable and blackout. Now i can have a jolly good time with just regular cold beer or one glass of wine.
@@lusiusquietus7510 started on the buckfast wine at 12 , in scotland this is a sort of youth ritual . whilst most european kids are in parks working out and practicing their football , us scottish kids are in parks drinking buckfast and cider whilst having fights. hence why we get hammered in more ways than one at international football
At last, my specialist subject. I'm taking the risk of sounding incredibly irresponsible but my first week on heroin was the best time of my life. It was better than any other feeling I have felt before or since. The fact that subsequent weeks were spent chasing the first one showed me how dangerous the drug is. Crack comes a distant second along with MDMA. Crack extremely moreish but ultimately disappointing as the effects take a horrible toll on you which becomes noticeable to others quite quickly. MDMA was very good in the late 80's and early 90's but is barely recognisable these days. Oh, cocaine is and always has been a waste of time. It is basically speed for cowards. On speed, if you don't end up in a prostitutes den with no memory and symptoms of a heart attack then you aren't doing it right. I will finish by saying I'm clean now for 15 years.
There do seem to be consistencies between these realities that can be described by laws however. To paraphrase Wittgenstein, "true enough" is the best we're going to get. For the record I mostly agree with you. I've done a lot of psychedelics and I wouldn't describe myself as a materialist anymore.
@@whoaitstiger I think the part that's 'true enough' used to be bigger before the internet gave us access to every idiot's inner delusions. Now regular people are losing grip on reality because they're hearing insane stuff online and the media is stuck competing with that insane stuff so they post more insane stuff and nobody is getting anything near the truth anymore.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle I believe that's the case yes, the noumenon as Emmanuel Kant called it - the world in itself. We only have access to the world of representation as it comes to us through our senses.
As an alcoholic (3 years sober) who does a lot of work with AA and speaks to and works with other alcoholics all the time, it fascinates me to hear from someone who has no concept of the disease or how it works. It amazes me that there are actual humans out there who believe ‘blackout’ doesn’t exist and have never vomited from alcohol poisoning. Thanks Lindy for your unique (and dare I say, down to earth and totally normal) perspective on this matter ❤
This is a weird position to be in. I agree completely about the appalling potential for harm intrinsic within booze, but I'm afraid I'll fight you all day about AA and their ideas about 'diseases.' The Twelve Steps were out of date fifty years ago. Compared to more modern ideas, they're pretty frkn primitive.
It amazes me the number of people who don't understand what it's like to be an alcoholic who drinks, not because he's "trying to have fun" or "deal with emotional issues," because he's trying to stave off the shakes. They have no idea what it's like to go through 3 sleepless days of hell trying to get sober, only to start drinking all over again in a week.
Can't blame you man. If you grew up with your siblings, they are without question a piece of you and vice versa. I dread to imagine the wreck I will be should I have to live through that
@@ASBO_LUTELYIt absolutely is not a good time to drink. Unfortunately, it took a couple of times for me to learn that lesson, and I've been to at least one funeral with a raging hangover. Thankfully, apparently my absolutely awful appearance at said funeral was chalked up to appropriate emotional distress. 😅
I can honestly say that I have both lied about not being able to remember (saying things), and plenty of instances where I can't remember until someone reminds me. And also where I just can't remember to this day: fell of my bicycle, nearly broke my arm, nobody was with me so nobody can remind me where it was. Don't even know what route I took. When I woke up my bed and I were covered in blood, couldn't remember why (came back later but as I said, not the location).
Hi Lindy, long time listener, first time caller. I have woken up 5 in the morning in front of my apartment with tongue as dry as a sand paper. To this day I have no recollection of what happened the night before, or how I got there. I was wearing someone else's jacket. One of my shoes was missing. My pockets were empty. No phone or wallet or the stash of $5 and $1 bills in my side pocket. It seemed like an agent from Men in Black came down to earth and wiped my memory. So believe me, people who claim they can't remember what they were doing last night because they were drunk were certainly not making an excuse.
It’s quite entertaining to listen to someone who has evidently been abstemious throughout his life opining on the subject from the perspective of someone who has been the complete opposite.
From my experience if somebody says 'I don't remember what happened last night' they usually just don't rember the last 30min to an hour before they went to sleep/passed out
I was out drinking with my older brother and his old buddies while having a bonfire in their backyard. one of his buddies handed me a juice jug and said "drink some of this, bro." It was hot and delicious, like apple pie with a lot of cinnamon. In my tipsyness I had had like a quarter of the jug, focused on how lovely it tasted, when his friend came up to me with a cheeky grin. "You know that's moonshine, right?" "Oh, Hell," I said out loud. What I remember for the rest of that night was mindlessly throwing more wood on the bonfire and becoming best friends with his Jack Russel Terrier. I need to track down the guy who makes that apple cider moonshine, because I really want to get that stupid again.
LSD in the 1970s was very good; it really demonstrated pattern recognition in the brain. Now, playing electric guitar is enhanced with marijuana. The worst experience was with alcohol 30+ yrs ago, after a painful bereavement, drinking neat vodka. I woke up the next morning and had to go to A&E to have stitches in my arm after falling down, breaking the bottle with my arm.
playing electric guitar is enhanced with marijuana ... for you, not for the sober people listening! I know, I have the recordings of those epic jam sessions.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Hi, I remember many decades ago jamming with friends; it was almost a case of who could make the most noise!. However, as I’ve got older and having calmed down, I use the amazing modern technology we have now to make really nice sounds in a relaxed environment (as long as it is not too loud). I don’t jam now, I just use synths with a sequencer and drum machine (with a bit of weed) as my backing. It’s very therapeutic. I even get compliments from relatives in their ‘60s who are slightly younger than me!.
Not only is playing the guitar enhanced by cannabis, but so is drawing and painting and writing. The tight-assed squares I know who try to keep pot from me don't understand its appeal. Booze, on the other hand (and I haven't had a drink in over 21 years,) does nothing to enhance playing the guitar. I've never been able to play drunk. And anything I write while drunk is just a self-pitying mess.
Or split drinking something with alcohol and something without. One whiskey, followed by a glass of water or soda. This cuts down on the hangover by both reducing the amount of alcohol in your system, and keeping you hydrated.
When I drank socially, my memory was wonderfully blurry. When I began drinking both to escape, and to enter, oblivion, I found that the brain can be a cruel organ - as vital as it is to our survival - because after a certain point, only a litre of vodka would achieve the blackout I desired. I'd wake up, 20 years old, covered in vomit, banging headache, feeling completely rotten inside and out, and all the torture of conscious life while having a breakdown would still be there. At 29 now I haven't gone near alcohol for almost five years, and actually, for work, deal with people who may be in the same situation as I had been. My best experience with alcohol lasted about ten seconds - the first sip - and my worst, the following five years. Not for me any more, thanks!
As a professional alcoholic, I can confirm when drunk we have absolutely no idea what happened the previous night. You can talk to us and we will respond, but we may as well be sleepwalking. I could wake up on the moon and I would not question how I got there
I'm going to hazard a guess that somewhere on the Moon, there would be a rocket plowed into a crater, and a Moon rover wrapped around that flagpole Neil and Buzz left behind.
I love the thought 'Drunk/Stoned people are boring.' Way better message than 'No, you shouldn't do drugs, that's for criminals!' Not to mention the kind of stoners who turn weed into their whole personality, and can't talk about or do anything else.
I was never an alcoholic, but definitely a binge drinker, and have experimented with different stuff over the years but it's so refreshing to hear "I am my mind, I am my brain, I don't want to damage it". There are far too many people that have very nonchalant views on this stuff and don't realise the damage it can cause. I've been t-total for years now but I still feel some of the consequences. My memory, especially for things in my childhood and teens, has gotten worse and I just feel less sharp as I used to. This has gotten better over time but I don't think it has been worth it for a few nights of "fun"! There are so many amazing things that you can see and do sober that make drugs pointless imo.
Cath's ruin all the fun!! I've been drunk once in my life. Me and a mate decided to get drunk, as we'd never done it before (aged 16 ish). We bought a bottle of whiskey, a bottle of Vodka, and a large carton of fresh orange juice. I downed a pint of orange and Vodka, but couldn't stomach the Whiskey. Within about half an hour we were both pretty sozzled. We went out, staggered round the village falling in hedges, came home, vomited, and had toast and marmite. Once was enough.
0:50 I can only think of one time I was drunk enough to forget stuff. The memory of the incident stuck around because it surprised me so much: I basically remember the evening up until I was sitting on a sofa, then fell/lay down sideways, and I woke up in that same place and position. So to me, I just had a sleep on the sofa and that's it. Except everyone else there said that I got back up for at least two hours after that (based on when certain people arrived), socializing with people etc. Didn't do anything embarrassing or particularly weird during that time, so shouldn't have a reason to repress or deny it either. So either I forgot about it, or several people got together to make up a story about me being awake after I'd first fallen asleep, but made the story entirely mundane and inconsequential.
Your attitude is precisely why I assert that "social" drinking is far less likely to moderate ones alcohol intake than the anecdotal assertion that "peer pressure will keep you from being an alcoholic slob". "Other People" are bastards who seem to delight in forcing one to have "Just One More" or if you are not drinking "Just Have One Drink!" in the first place.
Never drink alone is much more often found as its corollary, "I only drink socially" / "It's fine to drink every day, I only drink with friends". The idea being that the only way drinking is ever a problem is if you drink alone. On the other hand, having a drink alone on occasion (reasonable amounts and frequency in total) doesn't really change how much of a problem a drinking habit is. There's a big difference between drinking alone because you're hiding drinking and drinking alone because you want to relax and watch a movie/read a book. NB Getting irritable and having a mild headache immediately upon having a drink or two heavily implies you're dehydrated to start out with. If it's a consistent thing then you really should consider working to drink more water throughout the day, you'll feel a lot better overall.
I'm 25. I've used every class of drug, including the most poweful and addictive ones when I was on the street. I don't regret most experiences. But now I'm older, I just don't like my mind being altered. Maybe numbed by alcohol or lightly stimulated by caffeine, but nothing stronger. Even alcohol affects me differently now though. I get terrible bkackouts just from a small amount, and it makes me tired and bloated, not energised and euphoric like it did at 15. These days I much prefer simple boring things like food, TV, and gardening over drugs.
I did once, get absolutely hammered on 50 pence. I'd just qualified for our uni's university challenge team (as the substitute member) and after a drink thought "Hmmmm, better bone up on my quiz skills...Oooooh it's quiz night at the student union!" Any way skipped down to the SU and paid my 50p - I decided not to join a team and go solo, to add pressure. I hadn't thought this through - as answers had to come via the team captain... so I was inherently faster with my answers. There were 5 rounds the first, third and fifth were written answer sheets the second and fourth were first to answer. And you got a drink for each correct answer (remember, I'm alone...) I got slaughtered. One of the other competitors whom I knew, later told me that at one point the quiz organizers actually asked if I wanted to sit the next round out to give everyone else a chance. I'd also finished the Guinness, the whiskey and ended up speedballing sherry. I've had a couple of 'red flags' about drinking - I moved to Dublin and jumped into the drinking culture. One day I was sitting in a bar nursing a hangover and I said to the head barman 'Jesus, I had too much to drink last night' The barman looked at me and said "Nah, I've seen you drink more, and you can drink, I mean really drink. You can also handle your drink. When you first came here I thought 'uh-oh we'll need an ambulance' but off you wobbled into the night at closing time, only to return and do the same the following night. You're a pleasant drunk." I took that in the way you would if a stuntman says 'Bollocks! I ain't doing that, that's dangerous!' Sage words on the drugs front, I agree with you 100% - I've seen people that have taken trips and come back without all their luggage so to speak. Some are still suffering the consequences.
Re. quitting alcohol, I had an amusing method-go to a wilderness area for a few days and quit cold turkey without telling anyone what I was doing or where. Then continue not telling anyone as withdrawal symptoms slowly recede over the next few months. Good times.
Remembering last night? Dude, I didn't remeber waking up the following morning! The realisation stopped me in the kitchen doorway dead in my tracks - couldn't remember anything except that I was on the way to put the kettlre on... my friend came downstairs shortly after and helped me out by explaining I'd fell asleep in the dogs bed and looked quite comfortable the dogs bed was _in_ the kitchen
Don’t drink alone is great advice. I was drinking quite heavily to escape a terrible job for a while, I’d get horribly drunk whilst watching movies ans youtube. One night, my electricity went out and I was left to sit in the dark with nothing to do but think. I worked myself up into a panic attack, which I’ve never had before. Thankfully that was enough to nix the habit before it became a serious problem. I quit drinking for a while, along with my job
Alkohol is a drug, one of the most dangerous ones in fact. It always annoyes me when people put them in sepperat groups, because it paints the wrong picture. That being: Legal substance->no Drug->safe illigal substance ->Drug->safe. But this is just a pet peeve of mine and dosent really have anything to do with the vid, so.....great video , i always enjoy your videos!
Public hearsay, supported by himself, is that Lindy, odd as it might seem, do not drink tea. Is that British? Me, I and myself never have yet to vittnes a drunk person being more charming, witty, smart or interesting drunk than sober. I'll give you another clue: Bees, with ever so tiny brains, do not like drunk people. de SA3BOW
Dammit Cath And I am exceedingly jealous of Lloyd's ability to be content with straight, unfiltered reality. I'm literally only capable of happiness when I'm stoned, or asleep.
0:38 That is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. I have blacked out well over a hundred times and I'm only 28... I get that you don't drink that much and that's fantastic, but I think the fact that you haven't ever felt it is sending you down conspiracy lane. It is super normal for people that can't hold their liquor like me (or doesn't want to). 90% are trying to cover their ass? Not a chance, try 5-10% and maybe you're onto something...
Yeah I had to laugh there! I can't believe I'm going to say this.....but maybe a good, solid, booze bender might be a valuable or possibly needed learning experience for Lindy if he bases anything important on that erroneous belief!
@@Wintermute909 It would probably be a sight to behold! The medieval moves out of him would be legendary on the dance floor. But I sense he's a good, sober boy, and that's probably for the better. Alcohol really is one hell of a drug...
I was 14 the first time I blacked out from drinking. A Friday night game of forfeits Monopoly, one bottle of peach schnapps and one of vodka, and I went and landed on free parking, and house rules gonna house rule. I got carried home, my shoes got pulled off and I got bundled into bed. And then at 7:30 on the Saturday morning, I got woken up to go do my paper round, which took me about twice as long as it usually did, because I was more in the category of "still drunk" than "hungover".
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Been in the "still drunk" while going to work more times than I would like to admit. I know the feeling exactly. You ask yourself; "is this a hangover, or am I simply still drunk" (with a slight slur)
I just can't even begin to fathom what drives people to drink in those amounts. I've never seen the advantage, just the drawbacks. No one I've spoken to, when pressed, think drinking themselves blinding drunk is a good thing. So why do people do it? I just don't get it. Disclaimer: introvert and autistic. I have no need, nor desire, to drug myself into a stupor to be able to spend time with friends.
Honestly, if you know that get a bit grouchy from drinking, kudos for taking it easy. I know a couple of people who get mean-spirited after they've had a few and I really wish that they would recognize their destructive behavior patterns.
I wouldn't call that sheltered, he's been around people who were doing the substances he's talked about. Just never indulged in them enough to have the same experience as others. I would consider myself sheltered by comparison. I can count the marijuana blunts I've see on the fingers of one hand, never been "out drinking" with anyone, and never been to a gathering where more than one person was intoxicated.
@@felixmervamee7834 And Lloyd is indeed sheltered as much as a 50-something year old man can be. My father drank Smirnoff vodka till he was the colour of orange juice, then he died in my arms while I was also drunk on Smirnoff vodka. After watching this video, what colour do you think Lloyd would turn if he heard that story?
You are definitely not predisposed to be becoming an alcoholic, so good for you. When I drank, it was a spiritual experience I chased for 20+ years. It made me feel like I was a part of the universe.
Not everyone has the desire to pump their bodies full of poison whose most trivial effect is turning you into a raving idiot. (I've also never been that drunk myself. I don't see the point or advantage thereof. Quite the opposite, in fact.)
@@ricardobimblesticks1489 All the time. Social situations are about the most stressful environment someone like me (autistic) can find themselves in. But alcohol would exponentially worsen that by removing my control of myself.
@@TheOnlyToblin Ah ok interesting. Many who struggle with such anxiety myself included use alcohol to alleviate that stress, that's why it's often refered to as 'a social lubricant' Again I'm curious and I hope you don't feel like I'm prying but have you found anything external that does help in such situations? Myself I have a tendancy to just avoid large gatherings, places I'm unfamiliar with etc.
Greetings and salutations Lloyd. Big fan. You will most likely never read this comment, however id like to say a few words. You have been among my favourite creators on this platform since I started watching you a decade ago at the impressionable age of 13. You’ve been the inspiration and source for much of how I now view the world. Truly, I hold you in highest regard as a true gentleman, and a paragon of chivalrous, healthy and authentic masculinity. Over the years, as I matured and came of age, I have come to see you as a role model. Thank you for all the content, wisdom and laughter you have given. Can’t wait to see what you will do in the next 10 years😊
Saying that people who get so drunk they report 'they can't remember what they did last night' are liars is somewhat trivialising what could be a sign of a very serious illness.
He's just saying people tend to exaggerate the part alcohol plays in their inexcusable behavior, that doesn't mean we shouldn't take alcoholism and other alcohol associated illnesses seriously, it just means we shouldn't allow people to use it as an excuse for cheating, rape, assault, etc.
4:10 "stoned people are really boring" then you haven't met the right stoned people or been in the right situation, doing something like a game of dungeons and dragons or a board game makes the experience significantly better
Sorry to hear about your back, Lindy. It sucks that a random act of stupidity can still have repercussions on your health to this day. As a village drunk, only 2 times have I ever blacked out. Out of 1000+ drunken nights maybe this statistic is good? (probably not) I tend to remember most of the nights, but after a certain volume of alcohol enters my body all my short-term memories enter a dumpster. Both times this happened, the people around me commented to me the next day that I had started repeating myself. The first time, I ended up ranting about and cursing out a coworker who I'd learned that afternoon was a flat-earther. I'd had a long debate with her at work until my manager told us to stop, and I couldn't let it go apparently. This was recorded on my friend's phone and watching it back was probably the most embarrassed I'd ever felt, even if drunk me was justified in his rage against anti-science people The second time it happened, I was watching a drama with friends and evidently I kept interrupting it to ask if anyone was crying, until blackout me decided to go to bed. So I can't speak for everyone, but at least when I'm blacked out you know it because I apparently become annoying as hell but not evil, thankfully. It's a freaky sensation, honestly. Waking up to realize that I don't know what I did during the past 6-12 hours is a chilling feeling, even if I didn't do anything that bad. I've since decided that if the worst blackout-me can do is swear at flat earthers and be a little annoying during movies, I can't be too bad of a person at heart. But yeah. I respect people who don't get drunk. Especially those who beat the addiction. Kudos
Never drinking alone is extremely good advice. Possibly allowed for drinking with others in a group call doing an activity, but still mild drinking. Anything beyond is an in-person thing. Hangovers are an odd thing. Couple of times it's made sense. One time was from a single beer... I always wonder if a spiking was involved there.
Psychedelics will allow you to see the world from a new perspective. They have changed my life for the better in ways that you would have to experience to understand
What stops me from becoming an alcoholic is that there are very, very few alcoholic drinks that I actually like the taste of. And if I'm going out of the way to get something expensive that tastes good, I might as well spend that money getting three times the volume of something non-alcoholic.
Forgetting stuff you did when you're drunk is absolutely real, it's happened to me a few times. However, the only things you do when you're that drunk is be a complete nuisance, stumble around, and throw up. No complex interactions are going to be forgotten just because of alcohol.
@@SootyPhoenixi think thats a very narrow minded thing to say. I wouldn’t even consider drugs as a factor to consider whether a person is dumb, or if a person is boring, theres an underlying reason to their usage. When it comes to hard drugs like alcohol coke or opioids, it would likely be a rough patch in life that might turn them to these escapisms. For the psychedelic substances like the various tryptamines or maoi’s, the inspiration could be more or less the same as the priori. But these kinds of substances are primarily seen as a way of enlightenment, inspiration, or of deep introspection. Psychedelics have done many great things in our world; countless works of art having taken inspiration from experiences with psychedelic substances. More importantly, there have been several reports of people overcoming their ptsd with the use of psychedelics, along with several who’ve overcome depression. Not saying there hasnt been bad experiences, some people have developed ptsd, depression, psychosis, or brain damage from these chemicals. Though a majority of those can be due to poor judgement. So my message to you is to not solely judge someone for their outward appearance, but ask what inspired them to be that way? Every person is the product of their whole life leading up to the present moment. Everyone has a story to tell.
@agingerbeard Watts was a man very well versed in the Eastern tradition and Mckenna was well versed in hermeticism... both were extremely knowledgeable in their fields and made a lot of people's lives better by spreading what they knew. Meanwhile, you sit spreading your own brand of negative drivel on a youtube comment section, which does nothing for anyone. Good work.
@@SootyPhoenix @SootyPhoenix i think thats a very narrow minded thing to say. I wouldn't even consider dr*gs as a factor to consider whether a person is dumb, or if a person is boring, theres an underlying reason to their usage. When it comes to h*rd dr*gs like alcohol c*ke or opi*ids, it would likely be a rough patch in life that might turn them to these escapisms. For the ps*chedelic substances like the various tryptamines or maoi's, the inspiration could be more or less the same as the priori. But these kinds of substances are primarily seen as a way of enlightenment, inspiration, or of deep introspection. Ps*chedelics have done many great things in our world; countless works of art having taken inspiration from experiences with ps*chedelic substances. More importantly, there have been several reports of people overcoming their ptsd with the use of ps*chedelics, along with several who've overcome depression. Not saying there hasnt been bad experiences, some people have developed ptsd, depression, psychosis, or brain damage from these chemicals. Though a majority of those can be due to poor judgement. So my message to you is to not solely judge someone for their outward appearance, but ask what inspired them to be that way? Every person is the product of their whole life leading up to the present moment. Everyone has a story to tell. Also i cencored a lot cuz i think youtube doesnt like these words
4:30 I've been with a group of people who were all stoned and we started playing music, having a jam together! (My bf used to work as a truck driver and spot light operator on rock music tours and had bought a lot of musical equipment and amplification). So, we definitely were not just sitting around, being boring and feeling bored! (I'd always end up in fits of giggles that wouldn't stop)
Lol. It is very possible to not remember what happened. It's not exactly common to remember literally nothing, but it's certainly possible to forget some or even most of the night. It's been a long while since I've been that drunk. Don't plan on getting that drunk again. What's the point if you can't remember the night anyway.
From personal experience, I think it's a matter of remembering perspective. You can remember events like photos, not the full film. X and Y happened, you remember (At least from your perspective), but not why or the order.
Watching movies on a Friday night at home while high on magic mushroom chocolates is really fun. Remember to turn the lights off and turn the volume up
Defo had sections of various nights I can't remember, there's a reason they call it black out drunk. I apparently made drinking buddies for various evenings none of whom I remember but my friends told me all about them.
One of the proudest moments of my life was talking a dear friend -- a very headstrong young woman -- out from behind the wheel of a car when she was too drunk to walk, after her boyfriend had failed.
I've only experienced a blackout once due to smoking some extra strong weed whilst pretty drunk. Can't remember anything 5 minutes after smoking that joint and I found myself in my bed at home the next day with a chicken-shaped egg timer in my jeans pocket. From what I gathered afterward, though, it was likely the smacking my head off a table in my disorientation which was the biggest factor. Never smoke weed when drunk...
I once drove to Birmingham, Alabama from Athens, GA crazy drunk and spent the next 24 hours driving around town shoplifting. Came home with a pile of piddling junk that I barely had any knowledge of obtaining.
@@Matt.Willoughby Maybe alltho considering the drugs on the black market aint exactly always as advertised so extreme discretion would be advised. If drugs were legal and exactly as advertised, then id say try as you see fit.
@@konstanty8094 Hard disagree! My first time on shrooms I went into the woods with one of my best mates on a gorgeous sunny day, found a little lake, had some snacks and talked about love, life and the universe. An AMAZING experience!
Marijuana is great for enjoying and/or playing music, and generally thinking creatively. Highly recommended to try it till it works for this. Different strains have different effects on individuals, so one toke is not necessarily the same as the next. Boring means it was the wrong kind of weed. Granted, it may be not worth the effort to find the right stuff it doesn't work straight away and you're not inclined. But it will work when you find a strain that works for you. Maybe the best combination for relaxation is a mild alcohol buzz with a very light toke. Everything in moderation.
I get the alcohol suddenly becoming hard to drink thing too, and have also never been too drunk to remember what I did. I can be halfway through an alcoholic drink and it will switch from tasting fine to being the most repulsive thing to me. My suspicion is that this happens before the point where you'd black out. This is also the first time I've heard someone else mention alcohol suddenly changing to being unpleasant, so I suspect it's not super common.
LSD is, truly, mind-altering. Few tabs on a camping trip? Oh, we all just a part of the universe viewing itself. Molecules man... we all just waves man
Until you wake up, still tripping, with an inquisitive cow poking it's head in your tent. Cow's heads are odd looking. Up close, even more so. When it's effectively a disembodied head, floating in front of you and making snorting noises, it's "The devil has come for my soul" level terrifying.
Drugs don't destroy brains when used in moderation. They do alter the chemistry for a while but it all goes back to normal just like with alcohol for example. Although some drugs like alcohol does actually destroy your brain and body. Know what you're taking and how to use it properly.
Hell froze over: I heard Lindybeige complain about long stories and tangents 🤣
Underrated comment. LMFAO
Can confirm you can get so drunk you cant remember last night
Yes, although sometimes you have flashbacks that give a vague sense of what happened.
@@forthrightgambitia1032 Or a sense of foreboding...
I stopped drinking at 25. It's evil imo
I get nauseous and puke, before reaching that stage
When people tell you what you said and how you acted, it feels as if they're talking about a different person. Very odd.
As a former professional drinker yes, when a guy says “what happened last night?!” He means it
lindy thinks you are lying as well,,, you don't remember anything because you were asleep
Hell I've had drunken blackouts and come round when I'm still up and about. You just seem to be transported a few hours in time into the future with no idea how you got there. In a different club/pub/party than you were seemingly seconds ago. Suddenly realising your in bed with someone. Or in the back of a police van or hospital. Been there done that to all of the above.@@Oldiesyoungies
@Oldiesyoungies Blackouts are real. Ethanol depresses almost every brain function, and that includes memory. Although I do agree that many a hungover person has claimed blackout to avoid responsibility for whatever they did or said while drunk.
@@ExpatChef71 Oh yes. It's not so much that we forget what happened, rather memories are never made in the first place.
Long-term memory storage bugs out.
@@yvindblff5628 And if you mix substances, that can go next levell.
As an ex bartender who used to drink a LOT I can promise you that having no memories after several drinks is very common. Total blackout that I had no idea how I got home is quite rare. But many parties were turned to a "slide show" in my memory. Not bragging. But it happens.
I'm an alcoholic, I used to drink heavily, up to two months long binges. It culminated in an attempted suicide, I was in rehab and I'm sober almost three years. Never coming back (I hope). And as my alcoholism progressed, less and less booze was needed for me to not remember anything. Of course, my case is probably a bit extreme, however many folks who I used to drink with, who weren't as deep in the disease as me, could experience blackouts pretty regularly. It didn't even have to be a special occasion, just a regular Tuesday. A couple of beers, a couple of shots and they couldn't remember crap.
Yup. I used to experience this. It's almost as if the brain says... this really won't be worth remembering.
@@Zpicismrad keep it up, wishing you the best!
@@FulloutPostal thanks man, wishing you the best as well
The slideshow effect is real, having like 10 still images being your entire recollection of an entire night or day.
Never get drunk alone is good stance. Military colleagues used the expression 'drink to remember, don't drink to forget' is another one that stuck with me.
trying to forget is a temporary option that will catch up to you, and so will all the feelings youve been running from
during covid I started to drink alone quite a lot and honestly, yeah. Thats something you shouldnt ever get used to
@@asdafagl9098 hope you're in a better place!
I don't drink any more but, I don't know, the odd solo session is rather enjoyable in my remembering. Except for the time I set the kitchen on fire... Of course, it needs music and usually cooking/cleaning (turn cooker off at wall)/pottering. Some social media, perhaps. And, I've never once woken up in a pool of my own discharge - which is remarkable. Or fallen down the stairs - also remarkable. It's the post dipso depression I can't do any more - particularly now it's paired with anxieties about conflagration.
Yup if you’re drinking or doing drugs to forget it’s gonnna get really unhealthy quickly
it's an unspoken social guideline that any embarrassing act you commit while drunk must be forgotten by you and your peers.
Depends on how good of a story it is though. If it's just "Taylor got shitfaced, puked in the bar and got kicked out" it isnt very anectdote worthy.
@Massivecarcrash I have this one story about a very drunk lady with a yoyo and pineapple…
Anyone worth keeping in touch with anyway imop
Exactly couldn’t agree anymore. This was a major reason I stopped getting drunk in the company of a friend who would insist on reminding me what I’d said and done whilst drunk.
Yeah shuddup ho
The phrasing of alcohol or drugs is probably just our societal problem of not treating alcohol as a hard drug
Alcohol is a hard drug if you follow the logic for other hard drugs… can get you extremely intoxicated, can cause chemical addictions, withdraws can kill you, is literally poison, etc
Alcohol is the most pernicious of all drugs. I actually find heroin to be more useful, pain relief, upset stomach, boredom and more it's excellent.
Alcohol is a hard drug if you follow the logic for other hard drugs… can cause chemical addictions, withdraws can kill you, is literally poison, etc
@matt.willoughby Heroin is HEAVENLY! So truly incredible that I struggled to get free of its vice like grip for over 20 YEARS!
hard & soft drugs aren't real. There's only hard users and soft users
About 15 years ago, some friends decided they needed to get me drunk, so took me out and paid for drinks. They discovered that when I get drunk, it doesn't reveal my inner uninhibited party animal; instead, I get quiet and even more serious than usual. They never bothered trying to get me drunk again after that.
Woman: I remember why we left the party.
Lloyd: let me show you how a medieval trebuchet works...
Lloyd: Just sit here, I'll go around the side and explain this bit next.
Woman: But I can't see you **Lloyd pulls a rope** over thereeeeeeeee **woman disappears beyond horizon**
Him finding the book of questions again certainly has provided him with a lot of content.
And yes, damn you Cath!
You can indeed get so drunk you forget the night before. If you have never experienced it then you are probably a responsible drinker lol.
If you've experienced it you were probably hospitalised
You should never drink when you’re unhappy.
You should only drink in good company, for leisure, to celebrate.
I like a drink but have gone weeks without it. I normally don’t drink during lent.
Ive always followed that rule.
I got it from reading some GK Chesterton.
“Drink because you are happy, but never because you are miserable. Never drink when you are wretched without it, or you will be like the grey-faced gin-drinker in the slum; but drink when you would be happy without it, and you will be like the laughing peasant of Italy. Never drink because you need it, for this is rational drinking, and the way to death and hell. But drink because you do not need it, for this is irrational drinking, and the ancient health of the world.”
I never thought I needed to hear Lindy’s answer to this question, but now I can’t resist finding out.
I have been so drunk that I woke up the next day at 7 pm with no memory of the second half of my night, or how I ended up where I slept
Hehe waking up next to stranger is interesting.
@@fgoogleinthea7475 I wish, no. I was just in the wrong bed in the wrong part of the building. And my boots were in another room entirely. So clearly I went from place to place and slept in someone elses bed
Pretty tame story
@@mr.apathyy913 Yeah my best/worst one is when I woke up in a different city 400 miles from where I started the night.
I wish my "worst drunk experiences" were as mild as Lindy's.
My ones are not even in the same category.
Some mine range from "How am I still alive?" to "I can't believe I don't have a felony record". Unfortunately I have known too many people who can't answer those questions.
There are good reasons for me not really drinking anymore.
@@christopherconard2831 And meanwhile I'm boring as all heck, I just get a little dizzy and sleepy. XD
Same, LB is more moderate and reasonable than me. But Im far from the worst lol
Worst part "killing hangovers" that can last 2-4 days of pure suffering just because those 5 hours of kinda fun you drank to excuse yourself out of your sadness that IT DOESNT GO AWAY.
I catched 1 DUI, lost one job (was for the better, i had 2) but i ruined a bunch of relationships because i would just be too tired to put efforts towards them.
Seek help people, alcoholism will defeat you before it defeats your depression, be good to yourself you deserve it too
@@drewinsur7321 I don't think anyone here considers alcoholism a good thing, we're not navies. O.o!
I have heard this advice when it comes to drinking. "Never get drunk when you are sad, only when you are happy". I think that is a good advice. CAn't remember who said that to me.
Depends on how often and the reason why of course
Same with any drug that alters perception really. Your own frame of mind going in will be what dictates how good or bad your experience is going to be.
That's the exact rule I came up with for myself! Pleased to see parallel evolution. Drinking when sad/angry/stressed is the crux of dependency.
With that title I expected a rant about opium and absynthe, not cider and beer lol
Would love to get some opium 👅
Me too does this say more about us
Ahh, opium.
I don't understand why Lindybeige never got picked up by a major television network. This is good family content that frankly anyone could relate to.
Lindybeige is a great video to enjoy while under the influence of several substances
I chugged a whole 750ml of vodka one night and I cannot recall the entire night but the things I was told I did were remembered by everyone else very vividly
About 4 capfuls of 37.5% voldka will do me for quite a few hours. Can't imagine doing an entire bottle (Or larger bottle) in one night.
Someone said chug and I said sure why not and by the time he said WAIT NO I was already three quarters down and was curious to see if I could finish it. I went to bed a half hour later and woke up in my underwear. Apparently very shortly after laying down I got right back up, burst out of the room, bouncing off the walls, and puked on multiple people's beds, and had to be thrown into a bathroom where I proceeded to sit in the tub with the shower on the hottest heat while fully clothed. From this and the other stories I was told, I'm very glad I cannot recall any of it.
@@Kipkat13 Jesus Christ himself on an actual 2-wheeled bicycle! O.o
That'll do it every time.
@@blunderingfool I doubt his/her body absobed and digested the whole 750ml of vodka, half of it probably came up again an hour later. Still, it's quite alot and would knock anyone who isnt a seasoned (read alcoholic) drinker out.
My suspicions are confirmed, Lindy is a certified square. If he experienced how people drink down in Portugal, especially during warmer months he would screan.
lol you couldn’t tell that from the jump lol
Hold your horses there mate!
Are you telling me, that the Pope _is_ CATHOLIC?!?!
Imagine being a degenerate, lol.
It's quite the experience having the most emotional talk of your life, tears included, with your best mate and the next day neither of you remember what you talked about but still, ABSOLUTELY sure that you DID have a talk.
i have literally been black out drunk on many many many occasions . i have no memories of vast parts of my nocturnal youth . i have slept with women, stolen vehicles, had fist fights and even climbed into bed with my new girlfriends mother all whilst totally blacked out . i swear on every ounce of my being that at best i have one or two blurry still images in my head . the final straw was the violence . i was assaulting my friends and even hospitalised a man i had a fight with all while i have no single memory of the event . i have had to remain sober since the age of 20 one day at a time , as i was a total nightmare and when your friends are hesitant to have a casual lunch beer with you on a friday afternoon for fear of being assaulted or caught up in a car chase or when your brother buys handcuffs and zip ties to take to your bbq and issues them to your friends and instructs them to pin me down and restrain me if needed , you know its time to stop drinking
Yeah alcohol just isnt good for everyone. Good you found out its not for you before something even worse happened. Personally stopped drinking spirits after my 20's because it made me irritable and blackout. Now i can have a jolly good time with just regular cold beer or one glass of wine.
you did all that before 20?
Zipties is wild. Good story
You have a good brother.
@@lusiusquietus7510 started on the buckfast wine at 12 , in scotland this is a sort of youth ritual . whilst most european kids are in parks working out and practicing their football , us scottish kids are in parks drinking buckfast and cider whilst having fights. hence why we get hammered in more ways than one at international football
At last, my specialist subject.
I'm taking the risk of sounding incredibly irresponsible but my first week on heroin was the best time of my life. It was better than any other feeling I have felt before or since. The fact that subsequent weeks were spent chasing the first one showed me how dangerous the drug is. Crack comes a distant second along with MDMA. Crack extremely moreish but ultimately disappointing as the effects take a horrible toll on you which becomes noticeable to others quite quickly. MDMA was very good in the late 80's and early 90's but is barely recognisable these days.
Oh, cocaine is and always has been a waste of time. It is basically speed for cowards. On speed, if you don't end up in a prostitutes den with no memory and symptoms of a heart attack then you aren't doing it right.
I will finish by saying I'm clean now for 15 years.
YOUR reality is great. One thing I've learned over the last 5-10 years is that everyone is living their own reality.
There do seem to be consistencies between these realities that can be described by laws however. To paraphrase Wittgenstein, "true enough" is the best we're going to get. For the record I mostly agree with you. I've done a lot of psychedelics and I wouldn't describe myself as a materialist anymore.
@@whoaitstiger I think the part that's 'true enough' used to be bigger before the internet gave us access to every idiot's inner delusions. Now regular people are losing grip on reality because they're hearing insane stuff online and the media is stuck competing with that insane stuff so they post more insane stuff and nobody is getting anything near the truth anymore.
@@whoaitstiger So true. There is only one reality, it's just that no one can actually see it. We all live our own.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle I believe that's the case yes, the noumenon as Emmanuel Kant called it - the world in itself. We only have access to the world of representation as it comes to us through our senses.
As an alcoholic (3 years sober) who does a lot of work with AA and speaks to and works with other alcoholics all the time, it fascinates me to hear from someone who has no concept of the disease or how it works. It amazes me that there are actual humans out there who believe ‘blackout’ doesn’t exist and have never vomited from alcohol poisoning.
Thanks Lindy for your unique (and dare I say, down to earth and totally normal) perspective on this matter ❤
This is a weird position to be in.
I agree completely about the appalling potential for harm intrinsic within booze, but I'm afraid I'll fight you all day about AA and their ideas about 'diseases.' The Twelve Steps were out of date fifty years ago. Compared to more modern ideas, they're pretty frkn primitive.
It amazes me the number of people who don't understand what it's like to be an alcoholic who drinks, not because he's "trying to have fun" or "deal with emotional issues," because he's trying to stave off the shakes. They have no idea what it's like to go through 3 sleepless days of hell trying to get sober, only to start drinking all over again in a week.
Worst drunk I've been on? The day we buried my older brother... woke up in detox. Never found someone I ever felt as close to.
My condolences
To be fair I don't think grieving is a good time to drink, you're experiencing a very negative emotion and that will just be amplified.
Can't blame you man. If you grew up with your siblings, they are without question a piece of you and vice versa. I dread to imagine the wreck I will be should I have to live through that
@@ASBO_LUTELY you don't really think about that at the time. You just want something to dull the pain.
@@ASBO_LUTELYIt absolutely is not a good time to drink. Unfortunately, it took a couple of times for me to learn that lesson, and I've been to at least one funeral with a raging hangover.
Thankfully, apparently my absolutely awful appearance at said funeral was chalked up to appropriate emotional distress. 😅
I can honestly say that I have both lied about not being able to remember (saying things), and plenty of instances where I can't remember until someone reminds me.
And also where I just can't remember to this day: fell of my bicycle, nearly broke my arm, nobody was with me so nobody can remind me where it was. Don't even know what route I took. When I woke up my bed and I were covered in blood, couldn't remember why (came back later but as I said, not the location).
if it comes back later it wasn't a total blackout, which is great.
Hi Lindy, long time listener, first time caller. I have woken up 5 in the morning in front of my apartment with tongue as dry as a sand paper. To this day I have no recollection of what happened the night before, or how I got there. I was wearing someone else's jacket. One of my shoes was missing. My pockets were empty. No phone or wallet or the stash of $5 and $1 bills in my side pocket. It seemed like an agent from Men in Black came down to earth and wiped my memory. So believe me, people who claim they can't remember what they were doing last night because they were drunk were certainly not making an excuse.
It’s quite entertaining to listen to someone who has evidently been abstemious throughout his life opining on the subject from the perspective of someone who has been the complete opposite.
I prefer to drink alone. The arguments are much more civil, and the personalities far more diverse.
Always love coming back to this channel, thanks for your work
"Reality's great!" That's ironically delusional.
Sometimes I drink alone as a sort of spiritual thing. 4 beers, a bible and a guitar is like a reset button after a stressful week
From my experience if somebody says 'I don't remember what happened last night' they usually just don't rember the last 30min to an hour before they went to sleep/passed out
I was out drinking with my older brother and his old buddies while having a bonfire in their backyard. one of his buddies handed me a juice jug and said "drink some of this, bro." It was hot and delicious, like apple pie with a lot of cinnamon. In my tipsyness I had had like a quarter of the jug, focused on how lovely it tasted, when his friend came up to me with a cheeky grin. "You know that's moonshine, right?" "Oh, Hell," I said out loud. What I remember for the rest of that night was mindlessly throwing more wood on the bonfire and becoming best friends with his Jack Russel Terrier. I need to track down the guy who makes that apple cider moonshine, because I really want to get that stupid again.
I am glad you came away from drugs largely unscathed, I hope that continues in your journey.
LSD in the 1970s was very good; it really demonstrated pattern recognition in the brain. Now, playing electric guitar is enhanced with marijuana. The worst experience was with alcohol 30+ yrs ago, after a painful bereavement, drinking neat vodka. I woke up the next morning and had to go to A&E to have stitches in my arm after falling down, breaking the bottle with my arm.
playing electric guitar is enhanced with marijuana ... for you, not for the sober people listening! I know, I have the recordings of those epic jam sessions.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Hi, I remember many decades ago jamming with friends; it was almost a case of who could make the most noise!. However, as I’ve got older and having calmed down, I use the amazing modern technology we have now to make really nice sounds in a relaxed environment (as long as it is not too loud). I don’t jam now, I just use synths with a sequencer and drum machine (with a bit of weed) as my backing. It’s very therapeutic. I even get compliments from relatives in their ‘60s who are slightly younger than me!.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle maybe if you suck or cant handle your smoking
Not only is playing the guitar enhanced by cannabis, but so is drawing and painting and writing. The tight-assed squares I know who try to keep pot from me don't understand its appeal. Booze, on the other hand (and I haven't had a drink in over 21 years,) does nothing to enhance playing the guitar. I've never been able to play drunk. And anything I write while drunk is just a self-pitying mess.
@@lanceash Yes! Absolutely; I liked the “tight assed squares” description, we used to call them “straights”.
Oolalaa look at mr gucci loafers with his blue ray
The best hangover cure is drinking enough water the night before with the alcohol as not to get dehydrated.
Hangovers are caused by acetaldehyde
You will still get hungover though. Just less.
@@Matt.Willoughby Like hangovers have a single cause.
Also a cluster of b vitamins as these tend to be stripped from the body, especially b12, doesn't make them go fully though.
Or split drinking something with alcohol and something without. One whiskey, followed by a glass of water or soda. This cuts down on the hangover by both reducing the amount of alcohol in your system, and keeping you hydrated.
When I drank socially, my memory was wonderfully blurry. When I began drinking both to escape, and to enter, oblivion, I found that the brain can be a cruel organ - as vital as it is to our survival - because after a certain point, only a litre of vodka would achieve the blackout I desired. I'd wake up, 20 years old, covered in vomit, banging headache, feeling completely rotten inside and out, and all the torture of conscious life while having a breakdown would still be there. At 29 now I haven't gone near alcohol for almost five years, and actually, for work, deal with people who may be in the same situation as I had been. My best experience with alcohol lasted about ten seconds - the first sip - and my worst, the following five years. Not for me any more, thanks!
As a professional alcoholic, I can confirm when drunk we have absolutely no idea what happened the previous night. You can talk to us and we will respond, but we may as well be sleepwalking.
I could wake up on the moon and I would not question how I got there
I'm going to hazard a guess that somewhere on the Moon, there would be a rocket plowed into a crater, and a Moon rover wrapped around that flagpole Neil and Buzz left behind.
This explains why in search of Hannibal will never be finished
Gotta have yer critics …
@@Savannah_Media even wendy!
I love the thought 'Drunk/Stoned people are boring.' Way better message than 'No, you shouldn't do drugs, that's for criminals!' Not to mention the kind of stoners who turn weed into their whole personality, and can't talk about or do anything else.
I was never an alcoholic, but definitely a binge drinker, and have experimented with different stuff over the years but it's so refreshing to hear "I am my mind, I am my brain, I don't want to damage it". There are far too many people that have very nonchalant views on this stuff and don't realise the damage it can cause. I've been t-total for years now but I still feel some of the consequences. My memory, especially for things in my childhood and teens, has gotten worse and I just feel less sharp as I used to. This has gotten better over time but I don't think it has been worth it for a few nights of "fun"!
There are so many amazing things that you can see and do sober that make drugs pointless imo.
I do agree that not liking reality very much is an essential component to the enjoyment of most drugs, especially in higher doses.
i hate my life so i numb my self with beer, cigarettes and weed from morning to night.
@@chef7658 QED
immediately checked the date when he said "whilst watchinga blue ray"
six days ago, all the power to you
Oy! Blu Rays are great! Fuck streaming. :-D
fuken ell ye
About the guy who spilled his beer on the board games: once is an accident, second time is a coincidence, third time is a pattern.
"Once is funny, twice is f***ing annoying."
I love how Loyd never surpriuses me on how responsible and level headed he actually is
Cath's ruin all the fun!!
I've been drunk once in my life. Me and a mate decided to get drunk, as we'd never done it before (aged 16 ish). We bought a bottle of whiskey, a bottle of Vodka, and a large carton of fresh orange juice. I downed a pint of orange and Vodka, but couldn't stomach the Whiskey.
Within about half an hour we were both pretty sozzled. We went out, staggered round the village falling in hedges, came home, vomited, and had toast and marmite.
Once was enough.
0:50 I can only think of one time I was drunk enough to forget stuff. The memory of the incident stuck around because it surprised me so much: I basically remember the evening up until I was sitting on a sofa, then fell/lay down sideways, and I woke up in that same place and position. So to me, I just had a sleep on the sofa and that's it.
Except everyone else there said that I got back up for at least two hours after that (based on when certain people arrived), socializing with people etc. Didn't do anything embarrassing or particularly weird during that time, so shouldn't have a reason to repress or deny it either.
So either I forgot about it, or several people got together to make up a story about me being awake after I'd first fallen asleep, but made the story entirely mundane and inconsequential.
We all need to get Lindy properly pissed 😂
Your attitude is precisely why I assert that "social" drinking is far less likely to moderate ones alcohol intake than the anecdotal assertion that "peer pressure will keep you from being an alcoholic slob". "Other People" are bastards who seem to delight in forcing one to have "Just One More" or if you are not drinking "Just Have One Drink!" in the first place.
Never drink alone is much more often found as its corollary, "I only drink socially" / "It's fine to drink every day, I only drink with friends". The idea being that the only way drinking is ever a problem is if you drink alone. On the other hand, having a drink alone on occasion (reasonable amounts and frequency in total) doesn't really change how much of a problem a drinking habit is. There's a big difference between drinking alone because you're hiding drinking and drinking alone because you want to relax and watch a movie/read a book.
NB Getting irritable and having a mild headache immediately upon having a drink or two heavily implies you're dehydrated to start out with. If it's a consistent thing then you really should consider working to drink more water throughout the day, you'll feel a lot better overall.
I'm 25. I've used every class of drug, including the most poweful and addictive ones when I was on the street. I don't regret most experiences. But now I'm older, I just don't like my mind being altered. Maybe numbed by alcohol or lightly stimulated by caffeine, but nothing stronger. Even alcohol affects me differently now though. I get terrible bkackouts just from a small amount, and it makes me tired and bloated, not energised and euphoric like it did at 15. These days I much prefer simple boring things like food, TV, and gardening over drugs.
I did once, get absolutely hammered on 50 pence. I'd just qualified for our uni's university challenge team (as the substitute member) and after a drink thought "Hmmmm, better bone up on my quiz skills...Oooooh it's quiz night at the student union!" Any way skipped down to the SU and paid my 50p - I decided not to join a team and go solo, to add pressure. I hadn't thought this through - as answers had to come via the team captain... so I was inherently faster with my answers. There were 5 rounds the first, third and fifth were written answer sheets the second and fourth were first to answer. And you got a drink for each correct answer (remember, I'm alone...) I got slaughtered. One of the other competitors whom I knew, later told me that at one point the quiz organizers actually asked if I wanted to sit the next round out to give everyone else a chance. I'd also finished the Guinness, the whiskey and ended up speedballing sherry.
I've had a couple of 'red flags' about drinking - I moved to Dublin and jumped into the drinking culture. One day I was sitting in a bar nursing a hangover and I said to the head barman 'Jesus, I had too much to drink last night'
The barman looked at me and said "Nah, I've seen you drink more, and you can drink, I mean really drink. You can also handle your drink. When you first came here I thought 'uh-oh we'll need an ambulance' but off you wobbled into the night at closing time, only to return and do the same the following night. You're a pleasant drunk." I took that in the way you would if a stuntman says 'Bollocks! I ain't doing that, that's dangerous!'
Sage words on the drugs front, I agree with you 100% - I've seen people that have taken trips and come back without all their luggage so to speak. Some are still suffering the consequences.
Mushrooms can be beneficial for some. Lots of good stories out there, although my own experience was a bit too wild for me.
Re. quitting alcohol, I had an amusing method-go to a wilderness area for a few days and quit cold turkey without telling anyone what I was doing or where. Then continue not telling anyone as withdrawal symptoms slowly recede over the next few months. Good times.
(Admitting I had a problem was difficult. So I didn't.)
Remembering last night? Dude, I didn't remeber waking up the following morning! The realisation stopped me in the kitchen doorway dead in my tracks - couldn't remember anything except that I was on the way to put the kettlre on...
my friend came downstairs shortly after and helped me out by explaining I'd fell asleep in the dogs bed and looked quite comfortable
the dogs bed was _in_ the kitchen
Don’t drink alone is great advice. I was drinking quite heavily to escape a terrible job for a while, I’d get horribly drunk whilst watching movies ans youtube. One night, my electricity went out and I was left to sit in the dark with nothing to do but think. I worked myself up into a panic attack, which I’ve never had before. Thankfully that was enough to nix the habit before it became a serious problem. I quit drinking for a while, along with my job
Chocolate milk goes well with a nice high quality dark rum. I call it a "sweet pirates kiss."
Alkohol is a drug, one of the most dangerous ones in fact. It always annoyes me when people put them in sepperat groups, because it paints the wrong picture. That being: Legal substance->no Drug->safe illigal substance ->Drug->safe. But this is just a pet peeve of mine and dosent really have anything to do with the vid, so.....great video , i always enjoy your videos!
I like to imagine that if tea had alcohol in it, Lindy would be a raging alcoholic.
Public hearsay, supported by himself, is that Lindy, odd as it might seem, do not drink tea.
Is that British?
Me, I and myself never have yet to vittnes a drunk person being more charming, witty, smart
or interesting drunk than sober. I'll give you another clue: Bees, with ever so tiny brains,
do not like drunk people.
de SA3BOW
Dammit Cath
And I am exceedingly jealous of Lloyd's ability to be content with straight, unfiltered reality.
I'm literally only capable of happiness when I'm stoned, or asleep.
0:38 That is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. I have blacked out well over a hundred times and I'm only 28... I get that you don't drink that much and that's fantastic, but I think the fact that you haven't ever felt it is sending you down conspiracy lane. It is super normal for people that can't hold their liquor like me (or doesn't want to). 90% are trying to cover their ass? Not a chance, try 5-10% and maybe you're onto something...
Yeah I had to laugh there!
I can't believe I'm going to say this.....but maybe a good, solid, booze bender might be a valuable or possibly needed learning experience for Lindy if he bases anything important on that erroneous belief!
@@Wintermute909 It would probably be a sight to behold! The medieval moves out of him would be legendary on the dance floor. But I sense he's a good, sober boy, and that's probably for the better. Alcohol really is one hell of a drug...
I was 14 the first time I blacked out from drinking. A Friday night game of forfeits Monopoly, one bottle of peach schnapps and one of vodka, and I went and landed on free parking, and house rules gonna house rule. I got carried home, my shoes got pulled off and I got bundled into bed. And then at 7:30 on the Saturday morning, I got woken up to go do my paper round, which took me about twice as long as it usually did, because I was more in the category of "still drunk" than "hungover".
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Been in the "still drunk" while going to work more times than I would like to admit. I know the feeling exactly. You ask yourself; "is this a hangover, or am I simply still drunk" (with a slight slur)
I just can't even begin to fathom what drives people to drink in those amounts. I've never seen the advantage, just the drawbacks. No one I've spoken to, when pressed, think drinking themselves blinding drunk is a good thing. So why do people do it? I just don't get it.
Disclaimer: introvert and autistic. I have no need, nor desire, to drug myself into a stupor to be able to spend time with friends.
Honestly, if you know that get a bit grouchy from drinking, kudos for taking it easy. I know a couple of people who get mean-spirited after they've had a few and I really wish that they would recognize their destructive behavior patterns.
I love Mr Lindybeige to pieces. But OMG, what a sheltered life he's lived.
He's just more disciplined then you
I wouldn't call that sheltered, he's been around people who were doing the substances he's talked about. Just never indulged in them enough to have the same experience as others.
I would consider myself sheltered by comparison. I can count the marijuana blunts I've see on the fingers of one hand, never been "out drinking" with anyone, and never been to a gathering where more than one person was intoxicated.
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He said that he doesn’t really like drinking. Would you call abstaining from something you don’t like discipline?
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And Lloyd is indeed sheltered as much as a 50-something year old man can be. My father drank Smirnoff vodka till he was the colour of orange juice, then he died in my arms while I was also drunk on Smirnoff vodka. After watching this video, what colour do you think Lloyd would turn if he heard that story?
Not being a drunk is being sheltered...?
Reality can be great for some people, but not everyone.
00:37 Lloyd, I promise, you absolutely will lose your memory if you drink enough.
You are definitely not predisposed to be becoming an alcoholic, so good for you. When I drank, it was a spiritual experience I chased for 20+ years. It made me feel like I was a part of the universe.
I'm honestly surprised Lindy's never been blind drunk
He just cant remember it, don't worry.
Not everyone has the desire to pump their bodies full of poison whose most trivial effect is turning you into a raving idiot.
(I've also never been that drunk myself. I don't see the point or advantage thereof. Quite the opposite, in fact.)
@@TheOnlyToblin I find it can help one to see things from other peoples perspective.
I'm curious, have you ever struggled with social anxiety?
@@ricardobimblesticks1489 All the time. Social situations are about the most stressful environment someone like me (autistic) can find themselves in. But alcohol would exponentially worsen that by removing my control of myself.
@@TheOnlyToblin Ah ok interesting. Many who struggle with such anxiety myself included use alcohol to alleviate that stress, that's why it's often refered to as 'a social lubricant'
Again I'm curious and I hope you don't feel like I'm prying but have you found anything external that does help in such situations?
Myself I have a tendancy to just avoid large gatherings, places I'm unfamiliar with etc.
Greetings and salutations Lloyd. Big fan. You will most likely never read this comment, however id like to say a few words. You have been among my favourite creators on this platform since I started watching you a decade ago at the impressionable age of 13. You’ve been the inspiration and source for much of how I now view the world. Truly, I hold you in highest regard as a true gentleman, and a paragon of chivalrous, healthy and authentic masculinity. Over the years, as I matured and came of age, I have come to see you as a role model.
Thank you for all the content, wisdom and laughter you have given. Can’t wait to see what you will do in the next 10 years😊
Saying that people who get so drunk they report 'they can't remember what they did last night' are liars is somewhat trivialising what could be a sign of a very serious illness.
He's just saying people tend to exaggerate the part alcohol plays in their inexcusable behavior, that doesn't mean we shouldn't take alcoholism and other alcohol associated illnesses seriously, it just means we shouldn't allow people to use it as an excuse for cheating, rape, assault, etc.
4:10 "stoned people are really boring" then you haven't met the right stoned people or been in the right situation, doing something like a game of dungeons and dragons or a board game makes the experience significantly better
Sorry to hear about your back, Lindy. It sucks that a random act of stupidity can still have repercussions on your health to this day.
As a village drunk, only 2 times have I ever blacked out. Out of 1000+ drunken nights maybe this statistic is good? (probably not)
I tend to remember most of the nights, but after a certain volume of alcohol enters my body all my short-term memories enter a dumpster. Both times this happened, the people around me commented to me the next day that I had started repeating myself. The first time, I ended up ranting about and cursing out a coworker who I'd learned that afternoon was a flat-earther. I'd had a long debate with her at work until my manager told us to stop, and I couldn't let it go apparently. This was recorded on my friend's phone and watching it back was probably the most embarrassed I'd ever felt, even if drunk me was justified in his rage against anti-science people
The second time it happened, I was watching a drama with friends and evidently I kept interrupting it to ask if anyone was crying, until blackout me decided to go to bed.
So I can't speak for everyone, but at least when I'm blacked out you know it because I apparently become annoying as hell but not evil, thankfully. It's a freaky sensation, honestly. Waking up to realize that I don't know what I did during the past 6-12 hours is a chilling feeling, even if I didn't do anything that bad. I've since decided that if the worst blackout-me can do is swear at flat earthers and be a little annoying during movies, I can't be too bad of a person at heart.
But yeah. I respect people who don't get drunk. Especially those who beat the addiction. Kudos
Never drinking alone is extremely good advice. Possibly allowed for drinking with others in a group call doing an activity, but still mild drinking. Anything beyond is an in-person thing.
Hangovers are an odd thing. Couple of times it's made sense. One time was from a single beer... I always wonder if a spiking was involved there.
Psychedelics will allow you to see the world from a new perspective. They have changed my life for the better in ways that you would have to experience to understand
They've made me do wild shit - and even create a rap persona. Definitely didn't enlighten me though 😂 😂
What stops me from becoming an alcoholic is that there are very, very few alcoholic drinks that I actually like the taste of. And if I'm going out of the way to get something expensive that tastes good, I might as well spend that money getting three times the volume of something non-alcoholic.
Was hoping you had a crazy mushroom trip lol
Forgetting stuff you did when you're drunk is absolutely real, it's happened to me a few times. However, the only things you do when you're that drunk is be a complete nuisance, stumble around, and throw up. No complex interactions are going to be forgotten just because of alcohol.
“Stoned people are really boring!”
Terence mckenna: “hold my blunt”
Watts and McKenna were sophists. Floors me that ppl lap up their drivel 😅
95-99% of people who do drugs are more stupid and boring than the average sober person. Terence was within the remaining 1-5%.
@@SootyPhoenixi think thats a very narrow minded thing to say. I wouldn’t even consider drugs as a factor to consider whether a person is dumb, or if a person is boring, theres an underlying reason to their usage. When it comes to hard drugs like alcohol coke or opioids, it would likely be a rough patch in life that might turn them to these escapisms. For the psychedelic substances like the various tryptamines or maoi’s, the inspiration could be more or less the same as the priori. But these kinds of substances are primarily seen as a way of enlightenment, inspiration, or of deep introspection. Psychedelics have done many great things in our world; countless works of art having taken inspiration from experiences with psychedelic substances. More importantly, there have been several reports of people overcoming their ptsd with the use of psychedelics, along with several who’ve overcome depression. Not saying there hasnt been bad experiences, some people have developed ptsd, depression, psychosis, or brain damage from these chemicals. Though a majority of those can be due to poor judgement. So my message to you is to not solely judge someone for their outward appearance, but ask what inspired them to be that way? Every person is the product of their whole life leading up to the present moment. Everyone has a story to tell.
@agingerbeard Watts was a man very well versed in the Eastern tradition and Mckenna was well versed in hermeticism... both were extremely knowledgeable in their fields and made a lot of people's lives better by spreading what they knew.
Meanwhile, you sit spreading your own brand of negative drivel on a youtube comment section, which does nothing for anyone.
Good work.
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@SootyPhoenix i think thats a very narrow minded thing to say. I wouldn't even consider dr*gs as a factor to consider whether a person is dumb, or if a person is boring, theres an underlying reason to their usage. When it comes to h*rd dr*gs like alcohol c*ke or opi*ids, it would likely be a rough patch in life that might turn them to these escapisms. For the ps*chedelic substances like the various tryptamines or maoi's, the inspiration could be more or less the same as the priori. But these kinds of substances are primarily seen as a way of enlightenment, inspiration, or of deep introspection. Ps*chedelics have done many great things in our world; countless works of art having taken inspiration from experiences with ps*chedelic substances. More importantly, there have been several reports of people overcoming their ptsd with the use of ps*chedelics, along with several who've overcome depression. Not saying there hasnt been bad experiences, some people have developed ptsd, depression, psychosis, or brain damage from these chemicals. Though a majority of those can be due to poor judgement.
So my message to you is to not solely judge someone for their outward appearance, but ask what inspired them to be that way? Every person is the product of their whole life leading up to the present moment. Everyone has a story to tell.
Also i cencored a lot cuz i think youtube doesnt like these words
4:30 I've been with a group of people who were all stoned and we started playing music, having a jam together! (My bf used to work as a truck driver and spot light operator on rock music tours and had bought a lot of musical equipment and amplification). So, we definitely were not just sitting around, being boring and feeling bored! (I'd always end up in fits of giggles that wouldn't stop)
Lol. It is very possible to not remember what happened. It's not exactly common to remember literally nothing, but it's certainly possible to forget some or even most of the night. It's been a long while since I've been that drunk. Don't plan on getting that drunk again. What's the point if you can't remember the night anyway.
From personal experience, I think it's a matter of remembering perspective. You can remember events like photos, not the full film. X and Y happened, you remember (At least from your perspective), but not why or the order.
Watching movies on a Friday night at home while high on magic mushroom chocolates is really fun. Remember to turn the lights off and turn the volume up
Defo had sections of various nights I can't remember, there's a reason they call it black out drunk. I apparently made drinking buddies for various evenings none of whom I remember but my friends told me all about them.
One of the proudest moments of my life was talking a dear friend -- a very headstrong young woman -- out from behind the wheel of a car when she was too drunk to walk, after her boyfriend had failed.
I've only experienced a blackout once due to smoking some extra strong weed whilst pretty drunk. Can't remember anything 5 minutes after smoking that joint and I found myself in my bed at home the next day with a chicken-shaped egg timer in my jeans pocket. From what I gathered afterward, though, it was likely the smacking my head off a table in my disorientation which was the biggest factor. Never smoke weed when drunk...
From personal experience and watching others, they do seem to amplify each other. And not in a good way.
If you're going to do both, you should smoke first. Worked for me atleast
I once drove to Birmingham, Alabama from Athens, GA crazy drunk and spent the next 24 hours driving around town shoplifting. Came home with a pile of piddling junk that I barely had any knowledge of obtaining.
It's not the drink, it's the company. But alcohol can make the company more fun.
I once made the mistake of drinking a litre of gin (just under 2 pints).
3 days of hangover 🤢
Same. Got mad at the Wedding Crashers film and have trashed a hotel room for absolutely no reason 😞
That ending was hilarious 😂
I used to watch your channel and just got reminded about this video for some reason. Missed u dawg
You should try taking shrooms and going on a walk in the evening. Drugs will begin to make sense.
Everyone should try all or no drugs, as they see fit.
@@Matt.Willoughby Maybe alltho considering the drugs on the black market aint exactly always as advertised so extreme discretion would be advised. If drugs were legal and exactly as advertised, then id say try as you see fit.
dont leave your house on your first shroom trip
@@konstanty8094 Hard disagree! My first time on shrooms I went into the woods with one of my best mates on a gorgeous sunny day, found a little lake, had some snacks and talked about love, life and the universe. An AMAZING experience!
Nah shrooms are trash I've seen people change for the worse after doing shrooms
If I drink alone, the most embarrassing thing I will do is make a stupid YT comment. This is a good example.
Lloyd, you claim that reality is great, but does "ymmv" mean anything to you?
Junkie cope.
Marijuana is great for enjoying and/or playing music, and generally thinking creatively. Highly recommended to try it till it works for this.
Different strains have different effects on individuals, so one toke is not necessarily the same as the next. Boring means it was the wrong kind of weed.
Granted, it may be not worth the effort to find the right stuff it doesn't work straight away and you're not inclined. But it will work when you find a strain that works for you.
Maybe the best combination for relaxation is a mild alcohol buzz with a very light toke. Everything in moderation.
You really need to go to a proper party Lindy!🤣👍
I get the alcohol suddenly becoming hard to drink thing too, and have also never been too drunk to remember what I did. I can be halfway through an alcoholic drink and it will switch from tasting fine to being the most repulsive thing to me. My suspicion is that this happens before the point where you'd black out. This is also the first time I've heard someone else mention alcohol suddenly changing to being unpleasant, so I suspect it's not super common.
LSD is, truly, mind-altering. Few tabs on a camping trip? Oh, we all just a part of the universe viewing itself. Molecules man... we all just waves man
Until you wake up, still tripping, with an inquisitive cow poking it's head in your tent. Cow's heads are odd looking. Up close, even more so. When it's effectively a disembodied head, floating in front of you and making snorting noises, it's "The devil has come for my soul" level terrifying.
@@christopherconard2831 waking up like this is scary when sober and unaccustomed to cows
I have to say I really enjoy this particular video series because it is very interesting learning more about the mysterious Lloyd beige
Drugs don't destroy brains when used in moderation. They do alter the chemistry for a while but it all goes back to normal just like with alcohol for example. Although some drugs like alcohol does actually destroy your brain and body. Know what you're taking and how to use it properly.
Until you take some dodgy shit made in a shed in Asia.
And spend a month in hospital and have permanent brain damage.
I find myself much more interesting when I'm stoned.