I'm with you on vintage still being the jewel in the crown. My new policy is to use the modern profits to buy higher end vintage cards. That guy who sold the card for 4k made a big mistake. The damage to his reputation will cost him far more than what he made. I don't like people giving him crap though. The damage to his business is punishment enough.
Yeah talk about a witch hunt that would stress me out so much. Gotta be careful these days from a buyer and seller perspective be good to people or they’ll burn ya at the stake 😂
It’s just getting started now.. I’m not entirely happy about it because it’s really expensive and tough especially graded cards. But I do believe it’s safer still to park my money in harder to find cards. I can always change my mind and go heavy into modern if I want. It’s not going anywhere 😎
Yeah it's funny that vintage Pokemon is considered modern in a lot of other collecting categories. This is why I'd imagine it still has room to grow. The old heads like SMPratte and Rusty are still only mid 30's I believe. Our old guys are still so young.
@@monkey39128 IMO its going to be a matter of how relevant pokemon is in 10-20 years from now because if it can stand the test of time these scarce cards are going to get very hard to obtain
I like the idea that I got these modern grails and held them that long and see them turn in to vintage one day. That is where it is realy at for every collector. Besides the art dose not even compare. Now if there is a specific card that you had as a kid and want it again I get that. 😎
@@orionsires and I also know someone that pulled a Nidoking as their first hit of 151 (me) and someone that has yet to hit it. It’s all just a gamble at the end of the day. offer still stands. If you want to tap out, I will gladly send you the Nidoking as a gift!
I’m not a perfect person and neither are half the people who condemn others. Sure he did a sleezy thing selling that card but everyone acts like they are so shocked and surprised it doesn’t surprise me at all. The other thing is, he still gave the other guy his money back plus 100$. He put it on his word that he was gonna split the profit and that’s where he went wrong. But to blast someone on socials over a Pokémon card in which not one person was truly scammed out of - I think is a little extreme don’t you?
I have that charizard Ex card with a ding on the top right corner. I’m tempted to sell it off at the moment, but need it for my master set. What would you suggest? Thanx fam
So I just got off the phone with my local GS and they are trying to get it there. It’s nationally rolled out 3 days ago but like I suspected not everyone is trained or on board between stores nationally. Might take some time. As soon as they give me the call back and confirm they are doing it I’m gonna just drop off cards to them when I feel like it. Sub 1 cool. Sub 20 cool. No headache cool. Free shipping great? And subbing through GameStop honestly seems smart if you get good grades back and can sell to them at 85% even better get cashed out. Loving the news. Hope it’s as good as it sounds. I will reactivate my account for this if it’s worth it. Will keep yall posted 😎
I'm 56 seconds into the video and had to pause it to say this... 151 IS THE BEST S&V SET RIGHT NOW. SO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! No other set even comes close. Show me any set not named Evolving Skies that has 20+ highly desireable chase cards. There isn't any, lol..
But to be fair there’s some decent sets just not on the same level SV has been pretty good and pretty lame at the same time IMO every era has its peak sets tho and its losers to avoid
@orionsires For sure! I've opened every set, and each set does have it's banger chase cards. It's funny hearing ppl say TM and or P Evolved is S&V's strongest set. Don't get me wrong, I like them both and have booster boxes invested in both. But stating they're stronger/better than 151 is like trying to convince yourself a Honda Civic is a cooler car than a Lamborghini... 😅
Upright in a ETB storage container or stacked on top one another. There was a time I would just stack sleeved WOTC holos in an acrylic box haha you don’t even need toploaders or card savers or binders. A acrylic box with sleeved holos stores so many cards. Also easy to walk around with at shows.
8:30 good and fair point... beyond the hate the guy is getting i think its awesome that someone would shell out 4k for that card i love to hear it... fact is all of there "investors" out here dont like it when collectors accumulate rare vintage cards because that creates a lower supply in the market and increased scarcity... what happens when collectors have 60 70% of the market of a car in personal collections thats scary to think about
I mean I just want people to really think about what happened and ask themselves deep down, what would they truly do in that situation. My only real gripe is the guy said he’d split the profit that’s where he F’d UP. Offering 100$ profit for nothing was honestly super fair, but given the fact he offered half the profit first, it’s a slap in the face. Regarding scarce vintage.. We’re approaching that time now, where it’s getting to be very obvious what to bid on or look for because you don’t see a certain card for weeks/months. Makes it way more exciting hunting them down too.
@@orionsireshe only offered an extra $100 as a guilt of his conscious. The guy wanting that Deoxys checked with the Vendor for the actual price being at $2950 for the 10. So dude straight up made fraudulent claims to maximise his profits.
I disagree a bit on the Moe’s take. While I agree he didn’t scam. Moe only secured that card because the original buyer paid for him to buy the card. Anytime you buy a high end card like that you are taking a risk, a risk that Moe himself did not take as he had the original buyers money in hand. Moe would not have owned that card without the original buyers money at risk. Therefore turning around and selling in my opinion is dirty. If Moe was the original owner and took the higher bid I may agree with you, but in this case Moe only had the card because of the original buyer had paid him the money to secure the card.
Absolutely agree that what he did was dirty 1000% and yes you’re right not only did he get the finder fee but also he didn’t have to take any real risk. The part that honestly bothers me the most is him not cutting OG buyer into fair profit split. He doubled down on his word twice in this one move and it’s not a good look. Did he deserve to get blasted on the internet? Debatable 😂
I have only ripped 200 packs I almost have a complete Master set I am missing exactly 10 reverse and I am missing the Charizard sir the Dragonair machoke Psyduck Alakazam sir and both erika's invitations I really do not want to buy any of the cards I want to pull them myself and I don't know if I can afford the electrode promo LOL 4,500 for a PSA 10
That’s insane I’ll have to look into the electrode promo but yeah it’s just different pulling them all ya know. Also dragonair I only pulled one time it’s extremely tough to pull IMO good luck! 😎
Yeah I mean they are cheap binders but I’ll probably get all the heavy hitters graded anyways hoping my local GameStop actually moves forward with grading 😎
Hmm... selling your reputation and trustworthiness for $900 on live is pretty wild even if you're "just trying to keep the lights on" 😅 but that's just me. I get it though business is business even if it's with shady/scummy people. I've made trade with "friends" where I put thousands of dollars worth of stuff into someone's hands and this "friend" never paid... the only reason he's still walking among us is because I actually have love for his kids. To think cardboard is worth risking your life over... but for others they wouldn't have hesitated to get theirs back.
Sorry to hear about how your trade went, yeah I agree it’s not worth it but people need to understand if it’s between survival and making a friend in the hobby most people won’t admit it but they’ll choose survival. I don’t condone what he did though but just trying to ask people to think objectively about the situation. 🤷🏻♀️
I’ll be honest idk why that charizard is goin through the roof. To me the blastoise and the venusaur are better arts. Also there is so many other sets with great art. I feel like a lot of people just fall victim to fomo. Idk to me paradox rift or temporal forces has some amazing art.
Agreed it’s wild, but I think venusaur and Blastoise will follow closely if this stays the market price for a 10 should pull the others up as I’d imagine people would want a set of the 3 if anything
@@orionsires yea I have the venusaur in a 10 in jap and I have multiple copies of the venu in English. It’s my fav artwork. I finished my master set a while back and I’m about to finish the japenese master set as well. It’s a lot more pricey with all the master balls 😂. Hurting my wallet.
Defending ? Are you serious? I’m asking people to think about what they would do in that exact circumstance. I don’t know the guy and never worked with him. Everyone’s quick to trash people in this hobby and it’s toxic behavior on both sides my guy. That dude blew him up on social media because of how it made him feel. Really think about this if it were you. And again drama, which is why I usually keep my head out of it. Unsubbing over me making a valid point is kinda unfair to me as a creator honestly. Trying to bring a different perspective is more interesting to me than just trashing someone.
@@bluebanisters2889 Blimey, you American's really get into your politics don't you. I swear every video I go on the Trump and Harris people are scrapping. 😂
I'm with you on vintage still being the jewel in the crown. My new policy is to use the modern profits to buy higher end vintage cards.
That guy who sold the card for 4k made a big mistake. The damage to his reputation will cost him far more than what he made. I don't like people giving him crap though. The damage to his business is punishment enough.
Yeah talk about a witch hunt that would stress me out so much. Gotta be careful these days from a buyer and seller perspective be good to people or they’ll burn ya at the stake 😂
Vintage > Modern all day every day
3:00 EXACTLY... imagine in 20 years when vintage cards are ACTUALLY vintage like sports cards yea that's going to be crazy
It’s just getting started now.. I’m not entirely happy about it because it’s really expensive and tough especially graded cards. But I do believe it’s safer still to park my money in harder to find cards. I can always change my mind and go heavy into modern if I want. It’s not going anywhere 😎
Yeah it's funny that vintage Pokemon is considered modern in a lot of other collecting categories. This is why I'd imagine it still has room to grow. The old heads like SMPratte and Rusty are still only mid 30's I believe. Our old guys are still so young.
@@monkey39128 IMO its going to be a matter of how relevant pokemon is in 10-20 years from now because if it can stand the test of time these scarce cards are going to get very hard to obtain
I like the idea that I got these modern grails and held them that long and see them turn in to vintage one day. That is where it is realy at for every collector.
Besides the art dose not even compare.
Now if there is a specific card that you had as a kid and want it again I get that. 😎
I actually know someone that pulled a giratina alt art from one of those tins
Damn them!! 😂
@@orionsires and I also know someone that pulled a Nidoking as their first hit of 151 (me) and someone that has yet to hit it. It’s all just a gamble at the end of the day. offer still stands. If you want to tap out, I will gladly send you the Nidoking as a gift!
Was hoping you'd talk about this. The market went nuts.
Ridiculous but I’m also not mad at it 😂
@@orionsires Same, free money. Kind of. 😅
Suggesting that you would have a hard time not doing the same thing as someone who is getting absolutely flamed for what they did, is not a great look
I’m not a perfect person and neither are half the people who condemn others. Sure he did a sleezy thing selling that card but everyone acts like they are so shocked and surprised it doesn’t surprise me at all. The other thing is, he still gave the other guy his money back plus 100$. He put it on his word that he was gonna split the profit and that’s where he went wrong. But to blast someone on socials over a Pokémon card in which not one person was truly scammed out of - I think is a little extreme don’t you?
I have that charizard Ex card with a ding on the top right corner. I’m tempted to sell it off at the moment, but need it for my master set. What would you suggest? Thanx fam
I would sell in this market and find a cleaner copy when prices settle if you are bothered by it. Always feels good to find clean copies of any card 😎
Wow that is a great point about using your $5 monthly coupon to grade a card. I'm gonna try that out.
So I just got off the phone with my local GS and they are trying to get it there. It’s nationally rolled out 3 days ago but like I suspected not everyone is trained or on board between stores nationally. Might take some time. As soon as they give me the call back and confirm they are doing it I’m gonna just drop off cards to them when I feel like it. Sub 1 cool. Sub 20 cool. No headache cool. Free shipping great? And subbing through GameStop honestly seems smart if you get good grades back and can sell to them at 85% even better get cashed out. Loving the news. Hope it’s as good as it sounds. I will reactivate my account for this if it’s worth it. Will keep yall posted 😎
I'm 56 seconds into the video and had to pause it to say this...
151 IS THE BEST S&V SET RIGHT NOW. SO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
No other set even comes close.
Show me any set not named Evolving Skies that has 20+ highly desireable chase cards. There isn't any, lol..
151 fanboys unite 😎
But to be fair there’s some decent sets just not on the same level SV has been pretty good and pretty lame at the same time IMO every era has its peak sets tho and its losers to avoid
@orionsires For sure! I've opened every set, and each set does have it's banger chase cards.
It's funny hearing ppl say TM and or P Evolved is S&V's strongest set. Don't get me wrong, I like them both and have booster boxes invested in both.
But stating they're stronger/better than 151 is like trying to convince yourself a Honda Civic is a cooler car than a Lamborghini... 😅
how do you store your toploaders ?
Upright in a ETB storage container or stacked on top one another. There was a time I would just stack sleeved WOTC holos in an acrylic box haha you don’t even need toploaders or card savers or binders. A acrylic box with sleeved holos stores so many cards. Also easy to walk around with at shows.
8:30 good and fair point... beyond the hate the guy is getting i think its awesome that someone would shell out 4k for that card i love to hear it... fact is all of there "investors" out here dont like it when collectors accumulate rare vintage cards because that creates a lower supply in the market and increased scarcity... what happens when collectors have 60 70% of the market of a car in personal collections thats scary to think about
I mean I just want people to really think about what happened and ask themselves deep down, what would they truly do in that situation. My only real gripe is the guy said he’d split the profit that’s where he F’d UP. Offering 100$ profit for nothing was honestly super fair, but given the fact he offered half the profit first, it’s a slap in the face. Regarding scarce vintage.. We’re approaching that time now, where it’s getting to be very obvious what to bid on or look for because you don’t see a certain card for weeks/months. Makes it way more exciting hunting them down too.
@@orionsires collectors are holding the line not many investors out here
just collectors that like valuable scarce pokemon
@@orionsireshe only offered an extra $100 as a guilt of his conscious. The guy wanting that Deoxys checked with the Vendor for the actual price being at $2950 for the 10. So dude straight up made fraudulent claims to maximise his profits.
I disagree a bit on the Moe’s take. While I agree he didn’t scam. Moe only secured that card because the original buyer paid for him to buy the card. Anytime you buy a high end card like that you are taking a risk, a risk that Moe himself did not take as he had the original buyers money in hand. Moe would not have owned that card without the original buyers money at risk. Therefore turning around and selling in my opinion is dirty. If Moe was the original owner and took the higher bid I may agree with you, but in this case Moe only had the card because of the original buyer had paid him the money to secure the card.
Absolutely agree that what he did was dirty 1000% and yes you’re right not only did he get the finder fee but also he didn’t have to take any real risk. The part that honestly bothers me the most is him not cutting OG buyer into fair profit split. He doubled down on his word twice in this one move and it’s not a good look. Did he deserve to get blasted on the internet? Debatable 😂
those tins were repacked with silver tempest and one brilliant stars
Mine were repacked with vivid, chilling and evolving skies so I opened 12 swsh packs total during last stream and got
Rekt 😂
I have only ripped 200 packs I almost have a complete Master set I am missing exactly 10 reverse and I am missing the Charizard sir the Dragonair machoke Psyduck Alakazam sir and both erika's invitations I really do not want to buy any of the cards I want to pull them myself and I don't know if I can afford the electrode promo LOL 4,500 for a PSA 10
That’s insane I’ll have to look into the electrode promo but yeah it’s just different pulling them all ya know. Also dragonair I only pulled one time it’s extremely tough to pull IMO good luck! 😎
I like the tins and poke balls, but purely for decorations. The packs are just extra.
Tins are awful just my opinion
be careful of those 151 binders i personally wouldnt put anything expensive
What????
Yeah I mean they are cheap binders but I’ll probably get all the heavy hitters graded anyways hoping my local GameStop actually moves forward with grading 😎
Hmm... selling your reputation and trustworthiness for $900 on live is pretty wild even if you're "just trying to keep the lights on" 😅 but that's just me. I get it though business is business even if it's with shady/scummy people. I've made trade with "friends" where I put thousands of dollars worth of stuff into someone's hands and this "friend" never paid... the only reason he's still walking among us is because I actually have love for his kids. To think cardboard is worth risking your life over... but for others they wouldn't have hesitated to get theirs back.
Sorry to hear about how your trade went, yeah I agree it’s not worth it but people need to understand if it’s between survival and making a friend in the hobby most people won’t admit it but they’ll choose survival. I don’t condone what he did though but just trying to ask people to
think objectively about the situation. 🤷🏻♀️
I’ll be honest idk why that charizard is goin through the roof. To me the blastoise and the venusaur are better arts. Also there is so many other sets with great art. I feel like a lot of people just fall victim to fomo. Idk to me paradox rift or temporal forces has some amazing art.
It's because he looks like he just had 5 pints and a steak and ale pie. People find it relatable. 😂
Agreed it’s wild, but I think venusaur and Blastoise will follow closely if this stays the market price for a 10 should pull the others up as I’d imagine people would want a set of the 3 if anything
Also this is funny yes big belly zard hits home
@@orionsires yea I have the venusaur in a 10 in jap and I have multiple copies of the venu in English. It’s my fav artwork. I finished my master set a while back and I’m about to finish the japenese master set as well. It’s a lot more pricey with all the master balls 😂. Hurting my wallet.
Bro we need a video asap on your opinion of the new eveelution set
I was supposed to make a video today but just didn’t have time with family and work I will try tomorrow fam!! You might not like how I feel about it 😂
IF you are buying the zard at this price rn you have lost your mind loll
Right
Defending moe bro? Unsubbed. That’s low bro. That’s low.
Defending ? Are you serious? I’m asking people to think about what they would do in that exact circumstance. I don’t know the guy and never worked with him. Everyone’s quick to trash people in this hobby and it’s toxic behavior on both sides my guy. That dude blew him up on social media because of how it made him feel. Really think about this if it were you. And again drama, which is why I usually keep my head out of it. Unsubbing over me making a valid point is kinda unfair to me as a creator honestly. Trying to bring a different perspective is more interesting to me than just trashing someone.
He's not defending him as such. He's just saying online witch hunts aren't the answer.
@@orionsiresIts called having morals man. Your word is one of the few things you have as a man
Yall need to stop being pervs when he has his wife on live. Incel behavior.
What do you expect? Based on the chat, his audience is a bunch of Trump supporters. This behavior is par for the course with that group.
@@bluebanisters2889 His wife would be safe with Dems in the audience, his kid however 😬
@@bluebanisters2889 Blimey, you American's really get into your politics don't you. I swear every video I go on the Trump and Harris people are scrapping. 😂
Yeah agreed, just go find yourself a woman. The world is your lobster and all that.
@@monkey39128 yeah they literally were insulting Kamala in the chat when she wasn’t even relevant to the conversation.
I got like 10 sealed booster bundle display cases still. I pulled like 6 nidokings when I was opening 151
When I grow up I want to be like you 😂