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I was aboard the "Vittorio Veneto" for 30 months and then another 18 months of the "Andrea Doria", in the years from 1978 to 1982, as a non-commissioned officer in charge of on-board computer systems (SADOC1). I had the honor of participating in the mission in Vietnam for the rescue of refugees, the so-called “boat people”, and in several other missions. They have been intense years of which I have a beautiful and nostalgic memory and I am truly saddened to see "my" ship demolished. For a sailor the first ship is like the first woman ... one never forgets.
I visited this ship in 1997 when it came to New York City. I was really very impressed by it and even got to go below decks. I'm really pissed off that it was scrapped. Such a nice ship and one that was irreplaceable. It should have been made into a museum ship no matter how much it would have cost. it would have been well worth it for prestige reasons and to inspire future generations of Italians to serve their country.
Looks like a real warship. My father served on the last Dutch cruisers Hr. Ms de Ruyter and Zeven provincien as a gunner and at the Terrier SAM system.
I remember very well the Vittorio Veneto and I saw it years ago once moored at the harbour of Livorno, quite an impressive and beautiful ship. I remember very well the Italians got furious, me too, with the captain that ran aground "our" beautiful ship "due to bad weather" off the port of Vlorë on 22 April 1997, I remember very well the comments flying and possibly the nicest word was "imbecille"/imbecile in English. Despite the official version many was thinking that he was too inexperienced mixed with sloppy handling. Good job 👍👍
Italy has long had a reputation for good looking warships. Personally (just my opinion) I think Japan in recent decades is the nation with the best looking warships
Good video. I spent a week on the VV out of Taranto as part of an exchange during a NATO Med deployment in the 80s. The food was a lot better than I was used to in the RN! Lot of guns is what I remember most, as I was an ordnance bod and that was what I worked on.
"One of the most striking beautiful warships of the last 50 years". Yes, I most definitely agree. I've got quite a few photos of her and the Andria Doria in my scrapbook.
Very nice video. I spent almost 3 years on board the VV towards the end of the 80s as a Ltjg helicopter pilot and FDO. With affection, I always address her as "my ship". She was a comfortable and spacious ship and from the warfare point of view, she was well armed, with every useful deck space filled with weapons, like all ships of the Italian tradition. We had a normal assignment of 5 AB212ASW helicopters and 14-16 pilots. It saddens me to know that she's goinig to be scuttled. I belive she has already met that fate.
So, 9 helos, 48 SAMs, stand off anti sub torpedoes, a host of 76mm guns and later a CIWS too. Yet still space for flagship C&C! All on what.... 7500tonnes empty? Makes HMS Blake and Tiger look pretty inadequate. Oh, and fitted for Polaris launchers too!!! As if everything else wasn't enough! Bet they were cramped through?
glad there’s a video of this , this and the French Jean D’arc ASW helicopter cruisers were truly beautiful warships , though Western Europe moved away from this concept the Soviets picked up on it with the two Moskva class cruisers with their weird tear drop hull design Great Video as usual WD
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Giuseppe Garibaldi is effectively the last Western European Cruiser even though she never operated as such she was designed for it, she still carries double torpedo tubes, 3 DARDO CIWS, 8 Anti Ship Missiles and has all the associated sensors to run them, her crew originally trained for surface and sub surface warfare as a frontline ship, only when Italy was allowed to operate fixed wing aircraft from ships did she take on the role of aircraft carrier.
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I know it is old...but I love this idea...and I don't know why, but I I think this type of ships could be useful Europe. I mean if this type of ships good for Japan it could be good for us too. I think we could use it tons of types of operations it could be use as: invading ship or in case of natural disasters we can use it as rescue ship or with attack helicopters in its hangars it could have such a great fire power. I fall in love with this ship so much. Thanks for the video, have a great day! And Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Italy no longer has cruisers in service, the orizzonte class destroyers have replaced the andrea doria class. but now the navy has ordered a new class of ships to replace the luigi duran de la penne class destroyers. these new ships called ddx, will be real cruisers with an empty displacement of 11,000 tons. the first is expected to be launched in 2028, but the pandemic has slowed development. so I don't know if the times will be respected, but I strongly doubt it. orizzonte class th-cam.com/video/i623Ikz8x9E/w-d-xo.html . ddx class. th-cam.com/video/YAsyj7QJ-Ys/w-d-xo.html
@@cyberarchitect9280 yes, i saw the video, but i didn't hear about the ddx project. what I mean is that while the orizzonte class has not been exported, fincantieri in common agreement with the government could decide to export these new ships, as has been done for the bergamini class. therefore more than one western navy could return to deploying cruisers in the future. didn't you mean this in your comment? or were you just referring to this particular ship?
@@lucaiervasi8515 Well for your last questions my answer is, both of them. I mean however this type of cruisers would good for Europe, this class the Vittorio Veneto class too would be a decent starting point of a series from this type of cruisers of course we have to modernize it. This ship really captured my imagination. If we have 80 or 100 ships like Vittorio Veneto we would have such a great fire power.
The different naming of surface combatants is relative. Cruiser size ships are called Destroyers. Destroyer size ships are called Frigates. WW2 definitions no longer applies. The ultimate absurdities are the British light carriers called thru-deck cruisers and the Japanese light carriers called helicopter-destroyers. Additionally multiple navies have amphibious flattops capable of being light carriers. So there….
Che disgrazia e porcheria che L'Italia non ha potuto preservare questa bella nave come un museo gallegiante. L'ho visitato a New York in 1997 e era veramente una nave bella e unica. Sono molto arrabiato che lei fu demolita. Che tragedia. perduta per sempre.
È costosissimo farlo,poi senza armamenti avrebbe perso fascino ,sarebbero stati tolti.un peccato che non abbia cannoneggiato come le inglesi alle falkland. Le guerre navali ,le guerre convenzionale di prima magari, adesso i ragazzi la rabbia la sfogano sul loro povero uccelli con 1000 seghe
Actually I think the Invicible class were built later than Vittorio Venetto. The invincibles were I *believe* classed as "through deck cruisers". I think you forgot the Canadian Iriquois DDGs - they could carry 4 SeaKings.
A good video as always. But, many destroyers of the current European navies are much capable and heavier than Vittorio Veneto. I think the cruisers still exist. We just call them destroyers
Italy no longer has cruisers in service, the orizzonte class destroyers have replaced the andrea doria class. but now the navy has ordered a new class of ships to replace the luigi duran de la penne class destroyers. these new ships called ddx, will be real cruisers with an empty displacement of 11,000 tons. the first is expected to be launched in 2028, but the pandemic has slowed development. so I don't know if the times will be respected, but I strongly doubt it. orizzonte class th-cam.com/video/i623Ikz8x9E/w-d-xo.html . ddx class. th-cam.com/video/YAsyj7QJ-Ys/w-d-xo.html
As far as tonnages are concerned, modern ships cannot be compared to old ones. when the vittorio veneto was launched, a frigate weighed about 2/2500 tons, a destroyer weighed from 3.5 to 4000 tons, today a bergamini class frigate weighs 6500 tons, more than the vittorio veneto, despite being much smaller in real musere. 145 while against the 180 of Vittorio Veneto. displacement is complicated nowadays. for example, the new offshore patrol vessels of the Italian navy called ppa class Paolo Thaon di Revel, are real frigates disguised as patrol vessels, with 144 meters in length and 6200 tons in the full version. th-cam.com/video/iLaUkizeKXg/w-d-xo.html
The USA and Australia needs a modern version of this to counter Chinese Communist submarines and Russian subs. Nimitz and Ford carriers are nice but crazy expensive. Could build 4 of these for the cost of a new Ford class CVG.
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I love how Italy still puts 76mm Otto guns everywhere one fits
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I was aboard the "Vittorio Veneto" for 30 months and then another 18 months of the "Andrea Doria", in the years from 1978 to 1982, as a non-commissioned officer in charge of on-board computer systems (SADOC1). I had the honor of participating in the mission in Vietnam for the rescue of refugees, the so-called “boat people”, and in several other missions. They have been intense years of which I have a beautiful and nostalgic memory and I am truly saddened to see "my" ship demolished. For a sailor the first ship is like the first woman ... one never forgets.
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I visited this ship in 1997 when it came to New York City. I was really very impressed by it and even got to go below decks. I'm really pissed off that it was scrapped. Such a nice ship and one that was irreplaceable. It should have been made into a museum ship no matter how much it would have cost. it would have been well worth it for prestige reasons and to inspire future generations of Italians to serve their country.
Could've serve as museum ship or for naval academy graduation ceremony.
Looks like a real warship.
My father served on the last Dutch cruisers Hr. Ms de Ruyter and Zeven provincien as a gunner and at the Terrier SAM system.
I remember very well the Vittorio Veneto and I saw it years ago once moored at the harbour of Livorno, quite an impressive and beautiful ship. I remember very well the Italians got furious, me too, with the captain that ran aground "our" beautiful ship "due to bad weather" off the port of Vlorë on 22 April 1997, I remember very well the comments flying and possibly the nicest word was "imbecille"/imbecile in English. Despite the official version many was thinking that he was too inexperienced mixed with sloppy handling. Good job 👍👍
Italy has long had a reputation for good looking warships. Personally (just my opinion) I think Japan in recent decades is the nation with the best looking warships
I prefer cold war soviet warships
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I completely agree about Japan
Tribute to Vittorio Veneto. Thanks for this beautiful video
Italy has built some nice looking ships going back to WW2.
Good video. I spent a week on the VV out of Taranto as part of an exchange during a NATO Med deployment in the 80s. The food was a lot better than I was used to in the RN! Lot of guns is what I remember most, as I was an ordnance bod and that was what I worked on.
"One of the most striking beautiful warships of the last 50 years". Yes, I most definitely agree. I've got quite a few photos of her and the Andria Doria in my scrapbook.
Very nice video. I spent almost 3 years on board the VV towards the end of the 80s as a Ltjg helicopter pilot and FDO. With affection, I always address her as "my ship". She was a comfortable and spacious ship and from the warfare point of view, she was well armed, with every useful deck space filled with weapons, like all ships of the Italian tradition. We had a normal assignment of 5 AB212ASW helicopters and 14-16 pilots. It saddens me to know that she's goinig to be scuttled. I belive she has already met that fate.
550 il numero è rimasto alla Cavour
Looks like a magnificent warship.
Bigger ships are indeed a beauty.
this great ship should have become a museum....
So, 9 helos, 48 SAMs, stand off anti sub torpedoes, a host of 76mm guns and later a CIWS too. Yet still space for flagship C&C! All on what.... 7500tonnes empty? Makes HMS Blake and Tiger look pretty inadequate. Oh, and fitted for Polaris launchers too!!! As if everything else wasn't enough! Bet they were cramped through?
a proper exercise in space management for sure
glad there’s a video of this , this and the French Jean D’arc ASW helicopter cruisers were truly beautiful warships , though Western Europe moved away from this concept the Soviets picked up on it with the two Moskva class cruisers with their weird tear drop hull design
Great Video as usual WD
A sad end to a proud ship. Rest in peace.
Excellent video about Italian naval forces ( helicopter cruiser)...historical background of existing helicopter cruisers around the world 🌎 during 1 cold War videos labels 🏷 to all characteristics of this helicopter cruiser named ( Vittorio veneto ) thanks for sharing .shared by excellent specific channel ( weapons detectives) 👏 👌 👍
Giuseppe Garibaldi is effectively the last Western European Cruiser even though she never operated as such she was designed for it, she still carries double torpedo tubes, 3 DARDO CIWS, 8 Anti Ship Missiles and has all the associated sensors to run them, her crew originally trained for surface and sub surface warfare as a frontline ship, only when Italy was allowed to operate fixed wing aircraft from ships did she take on the role of aircraft carrier.
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My favorite Cold War Warship! Great video!
Oh man!. I love seeing videos like this!. Also still waiting on Iranian Tomcat video(Or a Tomcat video in general!) Big loves sent to the team that makes these actual videos that don't lie about Military stuff!
Great video for a great ship!
I know it is old...but I love this idea...and I don't know why, but I I think this type of ships could be useful Europe. I mean if this type of ships good for Japan it could be good for us too. I think we could use it tons of types of operations it could be use as: invading ship or in case of natural disasters we can use it as rescue ship or with attack helicopters in its hangars it could have such a great fire power. I fall in love with this ship so much. Thanks for the video, have a great day! And Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Same with the rest of NATO and Australia. ASW is very important. Add AEGIS and a bunch of VLS missiles and that's a potent defender of the peace.
Italy no longer has cruisers in service, the orizzonte class destroyers have replaced the andrea doria class. but now the navy has ordered a new class of ships to replace the luigi duran de la penne class destroyers. these new ships called ddx, will be real cruisers with an empty displacement of 11,000 tons. the first is expected to be launched in 2028, but the pandemic has slowed development. so I don't know if the times will be respected, but I strongly doubt it.
orizzonte class th-cam.com/video/i623Ikz8x9E/w-d-xo.html . ddx class. th-cam.com/video/YAsyj7QJ-Ys/w-d-xo.html
@@lucaiervasi8515 Yeah we know, it was told in the video...most of it, but thanks
@@cyberarchitect9280 yes, i saw the video, but i didn't hear about the ddx project. what I mean is that while the orizzonte class has not been exported, fincantieri in common agreement with the government could decide to export these new ships, as has been done for the bergamini class. therefore more than one western navy could return to deploying cruisers in the future. didn't you mean this in your comment? or were you just referring to this particular ship?
@@lucaiervasi8515 Well for your last questions my answer is, both of them. I mean however this type of cruisers would good for Europe, this class the Vittorio Veneto class too would be a decent starting point of a series from this type of cruisers of course we have to modernize it. This ship really captured my imagination. If we have 80 or 100 ships like Vittorio Veneto we would have such a great fire power.
Always liked Italian ships, plenty of guns.
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Great video. I like to see more of these cold war ships/weapons.
The different naming of surface combatants is relative. Cruiser size ships are called Destroyers. Destroyer size ships are called Frigates. WW2 definitions no longer applies. The ultimate absurdities are the British light carriers called thru-deck cruisers and the Japanese light carriers called helicopter-destroyers. Additionally multiple navies have amphibious flattops capable of being light carriers. So there….
naming based on vls number would be better now, similar to ships of the line classes based on number of guns
@@hphp31416 …. Good idea!
Russia's carrier is also called a cruiser due to Turkey.
Che disgrazia e porcheria che L'Italia non ha potuto preservare questa bella nave come un museo gallegiante. L'ho visitato a New York in 1997 e era veramente una nave bella e unica. Sono molto arrabiato che lei fu demolita. Che tragedia. perduta per sempre.
È costosissimo farlo,poi senza armamenti avrebbe perso fascino ,sarebbero stati tolti.un peccato che non abbia cannoneggiato come le inglesi alle falkland. Le guerre navali ,le guerre convenzionale di prima magari, adesso i ragazzi la rabbia la sfogano sul loro povero uccelli con 1000 seghe
The Vittorio Veneto cruiser is about the same displacement as the Arleigh Burke class destroyer, so these designations are pretty fluid over time.
Great
Actually I think the Invicible class were built later than Vittorio Venetto. The invincibles were I *believe* classed as "through deck cruisers".
I think you forgot the Canadian Iriquois DDGs - they could carry 4 SeaKings.
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A good video as always. But, many destroyers of the current European navies are much capable and heavier than Vittorio Veneto. I think the cruisers still exist. We just call them destroyers
The European destroyers are smaller or slightly less displacement but no more capable
@@georgebarnes8163 I disagree. VLS, cruise-missile capability, and Aster missile. They are much more capable I think
European Frigates and Destroyers are pretty effective. Especially the FREMM-Class. Those can go against any vessel in its own theatre
Italy no longer has cruisers in service, the orizzonte class destroyers have replaced the andrea doria class. but now the navy has ordered a new class of ships to replace the luigi duran de la penne class destroyers. these new ships called ddx, will be real cruisers with an empty displacement of 11,000 tons. the first is expected to be launched in 2028, but the pandemic has slowed development. so I don't know if the times will be respected, but I strongly doubt it.
orizzonte class th-cam.com/video/i623Ikz8x9E/w-d-xo.html . ddx class. th-cam.com/video/YAsyj7QJ-Ys/w-d-xo.html
As far as tonnages are concerned, modern ships cannot be compared to old ones. when the vittorio veneto was launched, a frigate weighed about 2/2500 tons, a destroyer weighed from 3.5 to 4000 tons, today a bergamini class frigate weighs 6500 tons, more than the vittorio veneto, despite being much smaller in real musere. 145 while against the 180 of Vittorio Veneto. displacement is complicated nowadays. for example, the new offshore patrol vessels of the Italian navy called ppa class Paolo Thaon di Revel, are real frigates disguised as patrol vessels, with 144 meters in length and 6200 tons in the full version. th-cam.com/video/iLaUkizeKXg/w-d-xo.html
Well, at least this Vittorio Veneto is not lost to old ally.
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Purtroppo è stato avviato alla demolizione quest'anno.
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Breh I thought it's an Iowa
I thought it was Vittorio Veneto battleship
There was a vittorio veneto ww2 battleship. This is a cold war era cruiser named also vittorio veneto.
I think only Kirov was a battle cruiser
VV is good but not as good as the Soviet cruisers. Lucky that she never had to fire her arms in anger...
Only possible reason for these ships is to compete with the French
Waste of money when AshM were added
Should have kept them as “commando carrier “
The USA and Australia needs a modern version of this to counter Chinese Communist submarines and Russian subs.
Nimitz and Ford carriers are nice but crazy expensive. Could build 4 of these for the cost of a new Ford class CVG.
Virginia SSNs are counter to other subs
@@hphp31416 need more than one tool.
@@SA-xf1eb A LPH design is more efficient.
@@SA-xf1eb helicopter-carrying frigates can cover more surface than a big cruiser for the price of half a "cruiser"
And this is part pf why Italy’s public debt exploded in the 1980s xd
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