USSR: Department store
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- This is uncut full reel video...
I think this is in Moscow, 1990, I think..
If you have anything to add please do..
There is one thing I learned from my travels around the world .......... Everybody has the same desire to be happy and free...
And people from the city are less friendly than people from the country.. and it seems that is true in every country....
Actually it is not unhappy or happy, passive expressions like in photos of the US before the 1930s. Before movied taught Americans to smile for no reason, it was very rare in the world, and often considered rude or simple minded to show a smile to strangers where nothing humorous was said. More cultures retain that custom even though humor and genuine laughter is common when something funny happens or with friends. Look at people driving to work alone, they look the same passive way. The movies in the US really shaped social behavior and since western movies were exported to a lot or societies the smile greeting strangers in a store now is common even if there is no positive emotions behind it. It is one reason a lot of foreigner comment how artificial Americans are, grinning for no reason. Now, many people mistake a neutral face as angry, sad or hostile, which is completely opposite historic meaning. In many tourist destinations hospitality workers had to be trained to smile when foreigners, particularly those who grew up on US movies, were in the room, or sales would suffer. In previous times, a passive but attentive facial appearance was the model of good service and respect.
Still today, many societies still view someone smiling for no apparent reason as mentally less developed or suspicious.
It was not until the late 1990s or early 2000s Russia where wait staff in a restaurant or sales counter would ever wait on a customer with a grin or smile and gradually a younger generation came into the workforce connected to tourism found that smiles improved sales.
A video of a home party or vacation with friends and family in that late 1980s time frame in western USSR would have shown the people had easy senses of humor, and fun loving. My own long experience with Russia suggests that Russians are basically happier and naturally more social than Americans and meet strangers easily. The main reason to visit Russia is the people, very well educated, polite, fun loving and very accepting of new people. Differences in opinion would not generate an argument or hostility which is common in the US. I moved to Russia 15 years ago after many visits, to a stunningly beautiful city, St Petersburg, mostly because it is so much fun. Until they spend time here if one's opinions were based on western news media, they will be shocked how different life is and how much fun it is.
+Stan Jacox I want to visit.
I can attest to this. Even in western Europe I find that "smiling for no reason" is not the norm, and in parts of the former Soviet Union, it's certainly still like in this video, regardless of how happy people really are. When I studied abroad in France and Spain in 2005 and 2007, I was surprised that nobody in stores or markets ever smiled at me.
I was a volunteer in a village in the republic of Georgia in 2014, and my host sister told me that she first didn't trust me because I was constantly smiling "even when nothing was funny", but I had to explain (after I had to understand it myself!) that I subconsciously smiled each time I was confused or couldn't communicate well enough, because I didn't want to show my embarrassment or discomfort to the family or neighbors-I wanted to appear friendly in any case.
:)
Oh, really? And we see that your country is seriously in the shitter. Fuck ass liberal nation. Hell, you have feminist coffee shops charging a man tax, lolololol.
I love useful idiots
@Ammonia funny
I can't help but to feel profoundly grateful for what I have after seeing this.
What's wrong?
It’s a fucking store with people shopping in it. Good lord, westerners - ‘Muricunts especially - are so brainwashed.
@@JohnnyAmerique Calm down Tyler!!! Give yourself a break.
чеки на штыре)) помню их
жаль звука нет - не так интересно
я была чуть помладше девочки стоявшей у прилавков на 00:49
и вообще всё это воспринималось нормально - ну да, строго, скудно, типа так и должно быть
мелочи воспринимались ярче и больше ценились
помню мама покупала нам с братом по 10 тетрадок каждому в начале учебного года - и ящичек с этой канцелярией был для меня священен
однажды я взяла тетрадку чтобы вести домашний дневник, и помню свой трепет перед новой тетрадкой из 12 листов...
So many today trying to glorify this and they have no idea of what people lived ( *survived* ) through.
Ronbo710 this is actually after the Soviet Union under Yeltsin and under capitalist system
Looks like a very sparse version of a Goodwill.
Catherine H. You are from America how would you know ? And stores where like this because the Soviet Union disbanded and the economy crashed. It was so bad under capitalism my family had to flee the country. Putin made the economy better but still a lot of poverty in Russia and other former soviet countries are still very poor
You mean it was like everywhere, after the entire nation collapsed. By that compression I would imagine it to be worst.
@@NS-pr8is I love vatniks and useful idiots
Harold Campbell who is this useful to?
This was the year I was born. :)
The entire world has changed so much just since April 1990 when I was born. Wow!
we also have double the population.
this video was taken in early 1990's before internet and mobile phones. You can find far more worse public distribution system rationing out stale products in the 21st century in India beyond its urban centres and more than 100 billion people are dependent on it.
Damn, how high did your guys' fucking population get while I was asleep?
during economic crash 90s
not so bad now just buy from china cheap n plenty
this is a state store so there is nothing there, private trade was allowed in 1993
I got 50 hours from Estonia in the 90... so on day you can look
Not positive but this looks to be a bit after 1990. Before the collapse they wouldn't have allowed filming & they didn't have fashion options in the stores until 91, 92 ish. My guess would be this was a year or two after the collapse. Great find. Thx for posting. My best friend in college had defected from USSR in 88 & her mother followed her to the US in 92. lol We funded her mother's airline ticket by sending her American clothing to sell. Anyways, I have heard all the horror stories & saw her mothers reaction to seeing her first US supermarket.
Her mother was a hard line communist & would have never left the USSR if they hadn't of collapsed but one morning, a couple of months after she came here, I got up & her mother was standing on the balcony bawling her eyes out. With my broken Russian & her broken English we couldn't have deep conversations but she got it across to me that she had realized the USSR had lied to her most of her life. With her dictionary she could write out more complex things than we could communicate verbally & she wrote me a note saying she had dedicated most of her life to a country that caused millions to suffer & it hurt her that she supported that system. I still have that note today.
Anyways, great find. These films give a glimpse into life in the USSR. All these kids that think we can just tweak a socialist system a bit & everyone will have a great happy life need to see how it really was & realize that taking a slightly different approach to an inherently flawed system isn't going to magically make it work. How many times does humanity have to learn that lesson?
+shananagans5 Humanity will never learn the lesson, because there's always a fresh crop of ignorant kids who think they have a pretty good bead on things; and charlatans to exploit their naivety.
Well said. Many people who truly believed in communism, not knowing any better, were hurt when it just kinda imploded in on itself. Westeners have no idea how brutal the collapse of communism was on the average Russian citizen. Gorbachev is widely blamed for the collapse, but the truth is it was already falling apart when he came to power and he was honestly trying to reform the system for the better, but a'holes like Yeltsen hijacked Gorbachev's reforms and the country descended into virtual chaos. If Gorbachev had been allowed to stay in power the Russian people would experienced some pain because, realistically, there was no way to reform Russia without some pain, but they wouldn't have suffered the way they did under Yeltsen.
I was deeply moved by your text..my mother and grandmother were also victims of this system which wasn t theirs..they were deported from Eastern Poland in 1940 the Arctic and later to Kazakstan but they survived..in Sweden were they came to live later , they found many communists..retarded people who never wen t to the USSR but talked about how great it all was..yeah when you live in Bel Air and is a communist its great isn t it
Bullshit.
doghammer1; Yes, communism is indeed, bullshit.
Как красиво ценники подписаны. Прям каллиграфия)
This isn’t the USSR, this is the Russian federation.
This is right after USSR collapsed, but right before it was the same, or worse, like food stamps and etc., without warranty you have good food, of course Moscow and big cities were better comparing to other regions.
At the risk of getting into politics and which ideology is the best, etc. I think this fascinating video is yet another reminder of the inherent superiority of Capitalism despite the negative affects attached to it by Communists, Socialists, as well as Western Liberals there is no other system in the world that can beat its ability to provide the greatest number of people with the widest array of consumer options at the best possible price the market will allow. When you think about it, it was a fool's errand to try and attempt to control the production of goods to be made available for sale in the country. What a country or a company makes is best determined by the customer who votes with his dollar or Franc or Pound or Mark the answer to this question.
I'm not sure.
Это 1991 год. Звучит песня Вячеслава Добрынина с альбома 1991 года.
This is 1991. The song of Vyacheslav Dobrynin from the 1991 album.
А где там что звучит?
3:55 что там делает нынешний герб Москвы непонятно, он ведь в 93 только появился
Цен в рублях и копейках в 93м не было уже
это не герб это Георгий Победоносец
мало ли
At 7:33 in the right side one can see a part of disc cover called "Time must be changed" by Lakshminarayana Subramaniam. It was published by "Melodiya" in 1990.
At 7:43 in the left side you can see a plastic bag with post-soviet herb of Moscow. It was adopted in 1993 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Moscow.
From other hand it can't be later than summer of 1993 when the confiscating monetary reform was performed (old soviet rubble banknotes were withdrawn). In several cases (3:00, 5:27) you can see people still use old rubble banknotes.
+Yuri Starodubtsev Take a look for the prices on 8:25. 8 kopeck, 12 kopeck, 20 kopeck. I think this is 1990 or 1991....
А где звук?
Where did the audio go?
Rick, thanks! I'm live in Moscow.
90s russia reminds me of 80's canada for some reason.
they all look the same to me.
My mother in the Soviet times was a director of aclothes store like this one.
Congratulations... so you were never naked
@@dasdraperma8450 No child in the USSR went naked.
@@malashen depends whenn... and in which family. If you weere not commercial and didnd have any good connections you couldn't get the stuff so easily...
@@dasdraperma8450 Did you live in the Soviet Uinion?
@@malashen yes, I did
Which season of the walking dead is this episode from?
We were happy in USSR you idiot, we didnt have powerty, homelessness, we all has homes and free education, so shut up
Not a single fuck given to attract the costumers.
+DB Actually, it was the other way around. You had to attract/befriend the salesman/shop clerk (or just - give him money, on the side to make a "reservation"). Otherwise - you wouldnt get anything. Even if you had the money and special cards to buy food.
People were standing in queues for hours to get a toilet paper.
Ive lived in communist Poland during my childhood and it looked almost exactly the same. The only difference was, that we had less products on shelves.
For some reason - the only thing you could buy without any problems was vinegar.
+dataskin beautiful fiction.
+DB No use, low prices, no resellers.
+DB Good, but limited range of goods. It is difficult to get the technical innovations, recently introduced at that time, as an expensive camcorder or hi-end turntable "Arcturus", or fashionable clothes which is produced by hand, relatively small experimental batches.
doghammer1 What fiction? I'm telling you of how it was in Poland during the era of communism.
Сейчас всё китайское с полок убрать - ещё пустее будет
Во всем мире убери все китайское. Что мешало совку насытить магазины ширпотребом? ЗЫ там на ценнике белья производство Индия.
Евгений Раскатаев, СССР ничто не мешало насытить свой рынок всем необходимым, потому он его и насытил. Или Вы думаете, что российские олигархи ээразбогатели на разграблении советских предприятий потому, что в СССР нихрена не было предприятий? Вы смешной, однако.
@@Alexey_Varonov да ты что. Не знал что российские олигархи разграбили советские промтоварные и гастрономы.
@@Alexey_Varonov вот хорошо виден богатый ассортимент советского Ашана: th-cam.com/video/t8LtQhIQ2AE/w-d-xo.html
This is the saddest & most depressing "department store" I have ever seen.😢
This was not best time for this store, because of wrong economical political of first antisocialistic soviet government
doghammer1 - really? In 1985 in Russia there was lack of food, water, medicines. The USSR was feeding the parasite genocidal Cuban dictatorship... Golbachev saved Russia from absolute collapse.
Alternativas . Fake history is so ... ) idiot/ You are 100% heavily brainwashed
doghammer1 The average wage of a worker in the USSR was 3316.80 SUR, in 1990. That's 8,821.03 USD in 1990, or 17,162.03 USD in 2018.
Nuclear armament I was that average Soviet worker in 1990 and my monthly salary was less than 200 SUR, it's became sufficiently higher only a year later as hyperinflation was introduced. And 200 SUR equals $1034.86 in 2018 according to your math.
Interesting^^
And I used to think going shopping with mum in the 80s was bad in the UK 😬
0:18 The wooden toy beside the cashier is what?
That is the CALCULATOR, seriously it is the calculator.
Xorh S It’s an Abacus
Exactly! ))
Yes, everywhere on the counter you could see a dirty wooden abacus, I remember that time.
Looks like an American Goodwill Store...
Here how to buy product: make your selection and go to cashier station and tell them what you want. Then paid them and get ticket. And go back to your selection and give to ticket taker to receive item.
Pay with what? If money was used, then that wasn't real Communism.
Because USSR was a socialistic dictature of proletarian? Communism was a goal, not a present.
contrast with shops in Russia now . and you don't need a massive number of gulags or to stop people leaving
wow they had very scarce consumer goods
Sign on wall reads; "Happy proletariat Buy sturdy Soviet goods, get in line, no smiling"
You must be drop dead stupid.
LMAO
Зомби в поисках еды.
Years ago about 1972 I read an article about the real life of the common Russian. 2 things I'll never forget both are jokes. One is a cartoon of a large office and all are dutifully sitting at their desks, wearing "seat belts" to keep them from falling out of their chairs. In Russia that was funny, which was easy to understand when next I read a second joke. "In Russia we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us."
What is the reason to work hard and with high quality if your salary is equalized with all day drank workers, those who underperform or produce crappy stuff, moreover what is the reason to spend years in an university if your salary 3-4 times less comparing to a worker, what is the reason to invent, to improve, to optimize anything if you cannot meet objectives like implementation or benefits like salary and so on and so on.
@@denisoko8494 you state perfectly why socialism will always fail.
Grim.
UniverMag - универсальный магазин =)
+Дмитрий Ресайд Не могу до сих пор понять, как расшифровывается слово "Универсам" )))
+doghammer1 универсальный магазин самообслуживания
Were the prices on the items/clothing too expensive? Can't tell because not russian, but know this was around the time of an economic crisis.
Prices were low, but not all could be bought.
Just to understand, during USSR time the price for a pair of high quality jeans was comparable to the monthly engineer's salary. This video made right after USSR collapsed, early 90th, the good salary in Russia were 25-40 dollars. This video is a kind of final Communism' achievement exhibition.
At 4:23 what is the sign "USA" in the back of the department store ?
It's very blurred but seems like "Поступили в продажу видеокассеты с фильмами США" - we're selling videocassettes with american movies now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
@@senaya Spasibo !
@@senaya Yes, you are correct, and all these movies were bad quality pirate copies with basic translation. A video above is after USSR collapsed early 90th, but right before in USSR shops and supermarkets were similar, or much worse.
Hiya! Do you have a copy of this footage without time code ?
Где звук?0_о был же,все тот же запевала дооождь....
Олеся Сняткова там на пианино какой то джазмен играл )
The music doesn’t help
05:02 KGB agent . In this time KGB always looking for men with camera
Not a KGB agent, the lepels and cap strap are red (army). KGB uniforms use blue, green in Border Gaurd service.
Если это 93-94, то за свитер 200 рублей - целая зарплата.
Автор в описании к видео говорит, что скорее всего 1990. В принципе, тоже очень большие деньги.
В 1993 200 руб это ни о чем
everyone looks so unhappy
+chris the vancura They do not trust the government of Gorbachev. Ryzhkov next congress of the Communist Party announced that will no longer be fixed prices. Allowed to co-operatives, which are not engaged in the production and buying for bribes goods at the plant and then sell at high prices. Actually this was the problem of socialism, that the demand is not regulated by the proposal. Releases planned number of products. Very small profit, so the plant would not make sense to increase production.
+chris the vancura ...1986 It was allowed to abolish the "unprofitable" collective and state farms, which were sponsored by the state before, so with regard to the products, the amount of vegetable production declined, prices rose.
They are not forced by employer to smile.. like today.. and nobody smile back.
Seriously? How can you tell? All I see is serious people going on with their lives with no fuss about it.
They all look like nice humble people, and I don't run around with big fake smile and say love ya , seems the west are so many fake smiles ! .
Время сумашедших цен на одежду было. :)
Часто, очень часто слышно слово "кошмар"...
Цены там советские, рубль двадцать за пачку порошка.
I can imagine what their selling e.g wheels, batteries, cat flaps, broomsticks and
shoes.
Good quality, may be not the best, but good quality. Made according to state standards. Your can change if you are not satisfied with quality.
These department stores remind me of the ones in Havana, Cuba when I was there in 2006 under Fidel Castro's reign.
These were good times :) Very fond memories
Ziemomysł; You must be a glutton for punishment.
Is this an Aldi?
Aldi is worse
12:57 they have clothes products from Romania and India ?
This footage is after the Soviet Union, the title is wrong.
@@KSmithwick1989 Right after USSR collapsed 91-93, but a few years before in USSR all were similar or worse.
Ripp
Какой год?
90-ый
Probably Moskva.
В районе или сразу после развала СССР в начале 90х, период начиная где-то с сентября 91, но не позже лета 1993 - судя по ценам еще нет жесткой инфляции и не провели деноминацию рубля.
0:11 She Smiles??!!! Omg!!
Счёты - Супер компьютер Сверхдержавы! Abacus - The Super Computer of the Soviet Union! ))).
Oh, expert paper wrapping. Wouldn't see anything like that these days.
What ,whom do you mean?
doghammer1 Even workers at a gift wrapper store does not look so professional at wrapping anything into paper as a casual SU seller.
My practice. Buy 50 gram of mini nails. Get them weighted and only then wrapped in the paper. Now you buy them in plastic.
Mantas Balnys: Lol! At 18:18, wrapping batteries like a roll of salami!
Yes, we know, it looks. But this is not food store. Roll of hungarian salami with red pepper your could buy in food store.
Crazy google.
If the Soviets went to a Filipino dept. store in 1990 like S&M they would be blown away by the size and selection of product. and the goods shortage was so bad in the USSR and the early years of the Russian federation that the Philippines in its post marcos dictatorship depression years of the mid to late 80s would be seen as by the Soviets as rich country.
Clothes is soooo expensive!!!
During the perestroyka prices went up. Through the better days of USSR in 1950-70s prices were pretty cheap on everything.
Catherine H
This video is after the Soviet Union. There is no state monopoly, some of the clothes are marked from India and Romania.
The best time ussr citizens saw was under the rule of Leonid Brezhnev
BuzzFeed UK Science Editor Kelly Oakes bought me here.
Man, this is depressing. Not one smile through the entire video.
Do you walk throught stores smiling?
the creator; occasionally...
Will you smile if your engineer's monthly salary is comparable to the price for a pair of quality jeans, and you have a wife and children to feed on daily basis?
Americans have everything they need but still need to take pills to smile .
Эх, 6ля, такую страну развалили...
This footage is from the 90s, the Soviet Union no longer existed.
This footage is right after USSR collapsed, early 90th September 91- June 93, before inflation and money denomination, and USSR before collapse was similar to this video, or worse.
уровень жизни как был низкий так и остался 😒
Уровень жизни был выше чем сейчас. Во всяком случае, социальная разница больше, и сейчас больше бедных и нищих
Уровень жизни сейчас выше. Впрочем, есть и бедные.
welcome to the Real уровень жизни сейчас ниже чем в 90е карл )
Looks like prison
Всё было в продаже. Хош тебе - порошок , мыло , - всё чего душа пожелает !
Это девяностый год. Товары держали на складах. Не хотели продавать по государственным ценам фиксированным. 7.32 пластинки
верёвки ток нет
Не забывай, что это Москва ))) В провинции было еще грустнее , и постоянно , в отличие от зажравшейся Мацквы, куда свозили товары со всего Союза.
Игорь Котов порошок для тебя как легкий шок )
doghammer1 на базарах товары лежали они их кооператорам продали давно ) а кооператоры на базарах по тройной цене народу толкали
It looks like a Ross
it is. Are you Russian Sarah?
@@peacefulliberal5641 McFarlane is a very Russian last name
@@AnnieBrackett88 it is, how long u been in USA?
Oh, then the music stops right after I write that
Communism is the equal distribution of hunger and misery.......
Absolute bullshit
+FASV FASV The party elite didn't go without, as long as they could avoid being purged.
+doghammer1 You're an indoctrinated fool!
I'm far more informed about economical, political news then you.Because i'm russian And you have easy looked at very serious very complex economical and historical things.. Remember "Friends" ll wall poster from Russia? It means to learn more - to know more. Try.
Absolutely.
deathofcommunism.josru.com
I don't care if you're Russian. You're making an appeal to authority. You can deduce the outcome of any attempt at socialism by understanding human nature. The Venezuelans are discovering the failings of socialism at the moment. People never learn though!
220v.
Looks like a shitty Goodwill
We in the west certainly live a life of excess.
It's easier when you move from sparse country to abundant country.
Worst than Ross!!!
worst period in the world life! there were no sanctions deployed! you can't feel there is life!
This is not USSR this is Russian Federation in early 90s
Хочу вернуть ссср и жить дальше кто за.
Я категорически против,не хочу вернутья где все было дефеците.Где за всеми государствами правил Москва,сейчас живу в Независимом государстве,и никто мне не указ.Рад что не живу в таком татолитарном режиме как СССР.
rename vid: hideous babushkas on parade