Starship is large enough to simply contain a landing vehicle and stay in orbit itself. Of course the lander would be much smaller than the starship but larger than the current ones.
If you’re thumbnail references Starship landings on Mars, then that is what the majority of video should be about. Not irrelevant filler expanding your content to over twenty minutes when your main topic could have been covered in five.
The whole video was about landing on mars. Starship is the only viable ship being built to land people on Mars. What else did you think the video was about?
they absolutely have to figure out a way to avoid this insane 26 month window. they should get that figured out as one of the primary objectives. otherwise. there is no rush in building and testing and perfecting the starship. taking huge risk of having to build a special addition for Mars that very well might be considerably different and have to do it all basically, over again and going through the FDA approval sht all over again. once that is figured out, they should figure out a way to keep the mars dust from kicking up insanely bad. like sending a payload down that literally is all water that sprinkles and waters the land zone, then another payload that is literlaly only cement, not to create a cement pad this way, but just weigh down the landing zone. the cement dusting will stick to the wet mars soil/dust and make it heavy. potentially heavy enough to keep the dust cloud and what ever to a managable landing cloud. i donno. just a fast brainstorm lol... them are two serious big issues that should flat out be resolved instead of waiting til the last minute and hoping like hell it will be ok and having a method that allows a starship to be landing every 3 months. not 26 months man. thats just fkn stupid. if you try and counter that with multiple ships arriving in a short period of time all together basically, within the 26 month window, its too possible that landing isn't possible at this or that location at that time and so suddenly, you have multiple ships all in high jeopardy of some kind of crashing happening by the time they are able to figure out what to do. and since its like a 20 minute delay in communications to the ships, it might not matter at all what you find ou tthat you have to figure out on the fly as they are approaching and be too late and only option you have is to jus tlet them forfill the given plan, knowing that every ship is gonna crash from bad landing conditions. i realy think these two factors should be getting resolved first. thats gonna suck to see the day come to make the first attempt, just to see that my assumptions here were dead on the money as they very well may be. so then 26 fkn months later, adjustments can be made and attempt a 2nd landing. i donno. i jus tdon't want the first attempt and such to be a complete failure. that each attempt has a chance in hell and as of right now, it doesn't seem like thats gonna be the case. so we just gonna end up with bad news when the day finally comes. without a real sense of hope
Why they need to send RC dozer and roller ahead of Starship! Build a landing pad that will reduce the amount of dust. Also send sheets of metal and place on the ground like we did in WW2 for Aircraft when building airstrips.
I thought this was a video about how Space X is providing data to help land on Mars, not a complete rundown the necessary resources / technologies for colonization. Way to pad out the runtime guys. smh
Infrastructure needs to happen first. You can't jist go full bore and expect that every hing will work? Smaller shuttles to build and way to extract water from the regalith, habitats and a landing pads for starship
If refueling a rocket, like Starship, from low Earth orbit can enable it to continue to Mars, are there other scenarios not previously considered like refueling a returning Starship for powered reentry to Earth or even Mars? Granted, you would want the depot to be traveling in orbit at a speed that would closely match the speed of the incoming ship so that it would not require too much fuel to mate with the depot. What I'm trying to get at, is that space craft don't have remaining fuel to slow the craft for reentry and that's why there's a heat shield. If there was fuel for a powered reentry, could a fully fueled ship slow itself enough to eliminate the need for a heat shield?
For a pre-mission landing pad, I'd use a small supply craft containing only landing pads and robotics to remotely prepare the landing pas. From then on EVERY landing can be on a pad (as early missions include more pads).
You can Test & Practice Martian Reentry techniques around Earth. Since the Martian atmosphere is equal to 100,000 feet anything you do above 100k is like entering Mars. Even these recent Starship reentries should reveal what would happening if entering Mars at high speed. Just test engine firing (retro) while above 100k and you'll have your answers. You can take it all the way to a virtual standstill in the sky (at 100k) and just let it fall into the ocean.
One supply ship can transport 2 landing pads of heat tiles and Stainless. One pad would be 7 each 8m Hex pads. This will be like landing on a drone ships. More and more of these Hex Tiles can delivered.
So is there a reason this video was uploaded again? I watched this exact video a while back. It definitely was released before 5 hours ago. Jist curious as to why?
Retro propulsion creates a high pressure protective bubble around the spacecraft at hypersonic speeds in low atmospheric pressures. They were worried about instability and control issues.
The most reliable is the landing technique used twice on the Viking 1 and 2 , the first successfull landings in all human history , its called propulsive landing using one radar altimeter and for the final vertical approach a four beam doppler radar, complete sucess
I'm wonder if SpaceX has considered putting up a bunch of wind mills up there. I'm thinking they will need to be small but if you had serval of them I think they would last a very long time.
I expect a manned Mars mission is at least a decade away - possibly two. Firstly, we need to get a few successful missions to the moon - even if they are only touchdown and takeoff type trips with little or no extra vehicle activity. The ability to do a few of these things will teach us a lot about new techniques and I expect that is the best way to test their concepts to a certain level. At the same time, they need to send an unmanned, but full sized vehicle to Mars. If they can land something, re-launch it and get it back to this planet they can then think about manned missions.
I concur. Learning to survive on the Moon is an important first step to going to and doing it on Mars. After all, the Moon is right in our backyard 3 days away so if there was an emergency no problem but Mars is 4-6 months and millions of kilometres away and is a pretty daunting task. First settlers are gonna have to be the toughest sobs we can find. But it’s doable. Astronauts live & work in orbit all the time. Automated help is 100% necessary in the beginning especially.
I'm waiting for the first successful temote landing band return from mars befor any thoughts of sending people there. How about a useful established lunar colony first
why couldn't they kick out a few, redundant, remote builders to knock down a landing zone for future flights when they do that initial, manned fly-by projected for 2035?...
Not to mention, landing and launching from mars would likely create a crater. On earth, you have specifically have a launch platform? On mars this platform doesn't exist
I just viewed a funny version of the 3 pigs. He talked about how in the 16th century people used 15 times more words than we do. Sooo I know saw this video, and the amount of words used in the narrative is so excessive, just to comment that SpaceX will use landing legs for landing on Mars.
Mark CEN CA if you ask me I say landing on Mars is probably an impossibility but I'm no expert that's for sure😂 as far as this video goes I think the time is right I believe there's good content can I for one think it's great I'm still interested regardless of how I feel about the Mars mission
In this video, nice pictures of large spacious glass domes, as if greenhouses for vegetation of various plants and as a space for people relaxation, are irrelevant. Serious threat of solar wind rediation renders going underground the only sensible option. There are many caves and structures under the Martian surface. It is possible to engineer quite comfortable living space there including gigantic underground chambers with beautiful gardens, parks, lakes and sunlight conveyed from the surface through fiberoptics...
But on the Moon you have just 1/6 Earth's gravitational pull on the surface Staying there too long jeopardize overall health shape. And on Mars you've got 38% which human body has chances to adapt to
"Secretly" practicing? Everything he does is preparing for Mars missions. Landing the spacecraft vertically, check. No fuel for vehicles so build EVs, check. Can't live above ground, build a boring technology company, check. Need a super-computer, check. Look into his other projects and you will see they ALL apply to the Mars mission. Getting investors to fund all of it may be the cleverest move of all!
I believe some estimates are it will take 2% of Earth's GDP for one day in order to fund a mission to Mars . Each day on the journey will be equivalent to having 11 chest x-rays. This is one of many things that they don't talk about.
Yeah, he is such a genius! 3,000 nukes and 50million years later it may have an atmosphere..but since the genius has already wasted so many resources to appease his own ego, there is nothing left to leave the planet with.
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I have the solution to this critical challenge. SpaceX and the Western world must prioritize building a self-sustaining space station equipped with a revolutionary gravity system. Each interconnected capsule should feature unlimited expansion capabilities to integrate future technologies seamlessly. This space station is not just an opportunity but a necessity-it will revolutionize medicine, accelerating drug development by tenfold with the power of AI. While we construct this space station, robots must take the lead in building a Mars-ready city, tested to survive the planet's brutal conditions. We have the technology today to send robots, sparing human lives from the dangers of radiation, extreme temperatures, and the unknown threats lurking on Mars. Failure to act decisively now risks putting humanity's future in jeopardy. The resources and knowledge we gain will determine whether humanity can survive off Earth-or be doomed to extinction when disaster inevitably strikes our planet. By embracing this bold plan, we save trillions of taxpayer dollars, countless lives, and secure the survival of the human race. The clock is ticking, and the stakes couldn’t be higher. Will we rise to the challenge or let our inaction seal humanity’s fate.
You guys are looking at it the wrong way rocket engines is not the way magnetic using the planet’s gravity field to travel push pull land and launch . And to travel long distances folding space will cause problems it should be a magnetic vortex wormhole more control
We will land on Mars with astronauts in 2029. Ask Elon Musk. I communicate with Elon. I applied to NASA in 1974 to be an astronaut in the Apollo Space Program. I became an engineer.
I have to agree. I'm pretty sure Spacex will crash a few space craft there before 2030. He just missed this past Octobers Launch window. The next launch window will be in 26 months. Look for Spacex to launch Super heavy to Mars then.
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Yeah Mars is a stupid idea and in terms of space it's literally your neighbour and the sun is the next town over..oh and 3,000 nukes and 50million years is fkn dumb! Musk you has no right to nuke a planet nor waste our resources in such a way.
Wish you good luck . Buy a ticket to Mars , become a Mars Colonist, according to Generous Elon Musk , for the price of a house you or any body with courage and determintion, like the Pilgrins can resetle on a new world, no Indians but new technology makes it not just feasible but fun. But where? Try 22.27 N, 132.05 E, where Viking one is waiting for you on the chryse Planitia
@Arturo4586 SURE❗️I'll save all my "Precious coins." In addition, I'll buy an 👽hat in case I meet my bro👽 during the pilgrims to stay in Mars. Plus, to buy a Viking hat 👒 👌as greetings 🙏. AHHA❗️ HAPPY NEW YR 2025🎊 ✨️🥂🍷🌟 ~pearls 🤓
It dint sound like landing there will ever be prefected so wtf a waste of money and time when the money sholud be used to help others no just a huge waste of lifes
Great explanation! Incredibly excited, I'm not going..lol.
I think you will be happy about this.
Starship is large enough to simply contain a landing vehicle and stay in orbit itself. Of course the lander would be much smaller than the starship but larger than the current ones.
They need to keep practicing till it works.
It's good, it shows Elon listens...
If you’re thumbnail references Starship landings on Mars, then that is what the majority of video should be about. Not irrelevant filler expanding your content to over twenty minutes when your main topic could have been covered in five.
It's always the person with no content.
Armchair astronauts 😂
They should set up a settlement on the moon. Best way to get experience I think
The whole video was about landing on mars. Starship is the only viable ship being built to land people on Mars. What else did you think the video was about?
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they absolutely have to figure out a way to avoid this insane 26 month window. they should get that figured out as one of the primary objectives. otherwise. there is no rush in building and testing and perfecting the starship. taking huge risk of having to build a special addition for Mars that very well might be considerably different and have to do it all basically, over again and going through the FDA approval sht all over again.
once that is figured out, they should figure out a way to keep the mars dust from kicking up insanely bad. like sending a payload down that literally is all water that sprinkles and waters the land zone, then another payload that is literlaly only cement, not to create a cement pad this way, but just weigh down the landing zone. the cement dusting will stick to the wet mars soil/dust and make it heavy. potentially heavy enough to keep the dust cloud and what ever to a managable landing cloud.
i donno. just a fast brainstorm lol... them are two serious big issues that should flat out be resolved instead of waiting til the last minute and hoping like hell it will be ok and having a method that allows a starship to be landing every 3 months. not 26 months man. thats just fkn stupid. if you try and counter that with multiple ships arriving in a short period of time all together basically, within the 26 month window, its too possible that landing isn't possible at this or that location at that time and so suddenly, you have multiple ships all in high jeopardy of some kind of crashing happening by the time they are able to figure out what to do. and since its like a 20 minute delay in communications to the ships, it might not matter at all what you find ou tthat you have to figure out on the fly as they are approaching and be too late and only option you have is to jus tlet them forfill the given plan, knowing that every ship is gonna crash from bad landing conditions.
i realy think these two factors should be getting resolved first. thats gonna suck to see the day come to make the first attempt, just to see that my assumptions here were dead on the money as they very well may be. so then 26 fkn months later, adjustments can be made and attempt a 2nd landing. i donno. i jus tdon't want the first attempt and such to be a complete failure. that each attempt has a chance in hell and as of right now, it doesn't seem like thats gonna be the case. so we just gonna end up with bad news when the day finally comes. without a real sense of hope
Why they need to send RC dozer and roller ahead of Starship! Build a landing pad that will reduce the amount of dust. Also send sheets of metal and place on the ground like we did in WW2 for Aircraft when building airstrips.
I thought this was a video about how Space X is providing data to help land on Mars, not a complete rundown the necessary resources / technologies for colonization. Way to pad out the runtime guys. smh
what about a self-opening landing pad, which can be developed on the earth, before the Mars mission?
OK, how is the rarefied atmosphere on Mars different from upper rarefied atmosphere on Earth? Seems like testing of scenarios could be done.
Infrastructure needs to happen first. You can't jist go full bore and expect that every hing will work? Smaller shuttles to build and way to extract water from the regalith, habitats and a landing pads for starship
Pads is for multiple. pad is for one. They can’t build landing pads till they get onto the planet.
Yeah! that is a really good point!
If refueling a rocket, like Starship, from low Earth orbit can enable it to continue to Mars, are there other scenarios not previously considered like refueling a returning Starship for powered reentry to Earth or even Mars? Granted, you would want the depot to be traveling in orbit at a speed that would closely match the speed of the incoming ship so that it would not require too much fuel to mate with the depot. What I'm trying to get at, is that space craft don't have remaining fuel to slow the craft for reentry and that's why there's a heat shield. If there was fuel for a powered reentry, could a fully fueled ship slow itself enough to eliminate the need for a heat shield?
For a pre-mission landing pad, I'd use a small supply craft containing only landing pads and robotics to remotely prepare the landing pas.
From then on EVERY landing can be on a pad (as early missions include more pads).
Good idea! It's really a great idea.
You can Test & Practice Martian Reentry techniques around Earth.
Since the Martian atmosphere is equal to 100,000 feet anything you do above 100k is like entering Mars.
Even these recent Starship reentries should reveal what would happening if entering Mars at high speed. Just test engine firing (retro) while above 100k and you'll have your answers. You can take it all the way to a virtual standstill in the sky (at 100k) and just let it fall into the ocean.
One supply ship can transport 2 landing pads of heat tiles and Stainless. One pad would be 7 each 8m Hex pads. This will be like landing on a drone ships. More and more of these Hex Tiles can delivered.
So is there a reason this video was uploaded again? I watched this exact video a while back. It definitely was released before 5 hours ago. Jist curious as to why?
Retro propulsion creates a high pressure protective bubble around the spacecraft at hypersonic speeds in low atmospheric pressures. They were worried about instability and control issues.
The most reliable is the landing technique used twice on the Viking 1 and 2 , the first successfull landings in all human history , its called propulsive landing using one radar altimeter and for the final vertical approach a four beam doppler radar, complete sucess
I'm wonder if SpaceX has considered putting up a bunch of wind mills up there. I'm thinking they will need to be small but if you had serval of them I think they would last a very long time.
I expect a manned Mars mission is at least a decade away - possibly two.
Firstly, we need to get a few successful missions to the moon - even if they are only touchdown and takeoff type trips with little or no extra vehicle activity. The ability to do a few of these things will teach us a lot about new techniques and I expect that is the best way to test their concepts to a certain level.
At the same time, they need to send an unmanned, but full sized vehicle to Mars. If they can land something, re-launch it and get it back to this planet they can then think about manned missions.
I concur. Learning to survive on the Moon is an important first step to going to and doing it on Mars. After all, the Moon is right in our backyard 3 days away so if there was an emergency no problem but Mars is 4-6 months and millions of kilometres away and is a pretty daunting task. First settlers are gonna have to be the toughest sobs we can find. But it’s doable. Astronauts live & work in orbit all the time. Automated help is 100% necessary in the beginning especially.
😁We will land on Mars with astronauts in 2029. Ask Elon Musk. I communicate with Elon.
Need controlled ring of landing rockets near the apex of the rocket to use for braking and cushioned landing.
I’d love to know what makes them think they can find that much h2o as a solid outside of the poles?
With the use of fusion--
the 21st century will be know as the century where humankind began to live in a fantasy world
I'm waiting for the first successful temote landing band return from mars befor any thoughts of sending people there. How about a useful established lunar colony first
why couldn't they kick out a few, redundant, remote builders to knock down a landing zone for future flights when they do that initial, manned fly-by projected for 2035?...
Not to mention, landing and launching from mars would likely create a crater. On earth, you have specifically have a launch platform? On mars this platform doesn't exist
Yeah! that is a big problem.
I just viewed a funny version of the 3 pigs.
He talked about how in the 16th century people used 15 times more words than we do.
Sooo I know saw this video, and the amount of words used in the narrative is so excessive, just to comment that SpaceX will use landing legs for landing on Mars.
That’s interesting! It will be very effective.
Mark CEN CA if you ask me I say landing on Mars is probably an impossibility but I'm no expert that's for sure😂 as far as this video goes I think the time is right I believe there's good content can I for one think it's great I'm still interested regardless of how I feel about the Mars mission
The first person to die on Mars will be born in about 20 years
Musk can take a step back and go .....
That’s right!
In this video, nice pictures of large spacious glass domes, as if greenhouses for vegetation of various plants and as a space for people relaxation, are irrelevant.
Serious threat of solar wind rediation renders going underground the only sensible option.
There are many caves and structures under the Martian surface. It is possible to engineer quite comfortable living space there including gigantic underground chambers with beautiful gardens, parks, lakes and sunlight conveyed from the surface through fiberoptics...
Wrong. Extremely difficult to engineer living conditions in a near non existant atmosphere. Otherwise we would have underground bases on the moon.
But on the Moon you have just 1/6 Earth's gravitational pull on the surface
Staying there too long jeopardize overall health shape.
And on Mars you've got 38% which human body has chances to adapt to
Can the 1st mars migration missions be composed of illegal immigrant crews ?!
"Secretly" practicing? Everything he does is preparing for Mars missions. Landing the spacecraft vertically, check. No fuel for vehicles so build EVs, check. Can't live above ground, build a boring technology company, check. Need a super-computer, check. Look into his other projects and you will see they ALL apply to the Mars mission. Getting investors to fund all of it may be the cleverest move of all!
This is stupidity on steroids.
I believe some estimates are it will take 2% of Earth's GDP for one day in order to fund a mission to Mars . Each day on the journey will be equivalent to having 11 chest x-rays. This is one of many things that they don't talk about.
Yeah, he is such a genius! 3,000 nukes and 50million years later it may have an atmosphere..but since the genius has already wasted so many resources to appease his own ego, there is nothing left to leave the planet with.
@@skyedog243,000 nukes and 50million years for the off chance it may create an atmosphere..yeah Musk sure likes wasting our resources.
Most serious culprit to populating Mars is possibility of not having surviving offspring on Mars.
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I have the solution to this critical challenge. SpaceX and the Western world must prioritize building a self-sustaining space station equipped with a revolutionary gravity system. Each interconnected capsule should feature unlimited expansion capabilities to integrate future technologies seamlessly. This space station is not just an opportunity but a necessity-it will revolutionize medicine, accelerating drug development by tenfold with the power of AI.
While we construct this space station, robots must take the lead in building a Mars-ready city, tested to survive the planet's brutal conditions. We have the technology today to send robots, sparing human lives from the dangers of radiation, extreme temperatures, and the unknown threats lurking on Mars.
Failure to act decisively now risks putting humanity's future in jeopardy. The resources and knowledge we gain will determine whether humanity can survive off Earth-or be doomed to extinction when disaster inevitably strikes our planet. By embracing this bold plan, we save trillions of taxpayer dollars, countless lives, and secure the survival of the human race.
The clock is ticking, and the stakes couldn’t be higher. Will we rise to the challenge or let our inaction seal humanity’s fate.
You been watching too many mid 2000s sci fi movies my friend. At what point in your plan do we put a nuke on an asteroid to save Earth?
You guys are looking at it the wrong way rocket engines is not the way magnetic using the planet’s gravity field to travel push pull land and launch . And to travel long distances folding space will cause problems it should be a magnetic vortex wormhole more control
Huh?
I think nasa wrong and space x knows what to do for landing.
Again an AI produced video, propbably completely automated. Just click bait. I am sick of this. I stopped subscription.
You're a bot. You're not subscribed to anything.
you are right the narrative is totally bogus , no reference to tried ànd proven methods, none! ¡Qué ignorancia!
Learning?
We are decades away from landing on Mars
We will land on Mars with astronauts in 2029. Ask Elon Musk. I communicate with Elon. I applied to NASA in 1974 to be an astronaut in the Apollo Space Program. I became an engineer.
@@suchdevelopments Well you know more than me I hope youre right
Hahaha absolutely not gonna happen for sure till decade or two from now.
I have to agree. I'm pretty sure Spacex will crash a few space craft there before 2030. He just missed this past Octobers Launch window. The next launch window will be in 26 months. Look for Spacex to launch Super heavy to Mars then.
@@henner-x8u I have personally known Elon since 2008. My son James works for him in Neuralink
Plenty of cherry-picking other peoples' work, but nothing to support the headline. Typical cheapo, ad-driven crap.
Anti-Elon bots in the comments on cue.
Their practicing on the old Moon landing set... 😀
They haven't made it to LEO and they're talking about landing on Mars. More FSD-Robotaxi-AI moonshine.
Clearly your parents used your head as a basketball when you were little.
@@StratumPress You must be looking in the mirror.
The focal point and main objectives of Mr. Genius Elon Musk is the Moon and, more likely, the Mars, the Red Planet.
Well then, so much so, it's not only the nickel, dime, bit coins, not crypto dangerous tht I am harvesting to save. I'll also will include, saving the "red-penny." So tht someday, I'll be able to afford to ride on one of the Spacecraft more likable the Falcon 9 Heavy.
Tht's on my bucket list2.
Thank U for wrapping the year 2024 🌟💜✨️
Yeah Mars is a stupid idea and in terms of space it's literally your neighbour and the sun is the next town over..oh and 3,000 nukes and 50million years is fkn dumb! Musk you has no right to nuke a planet nor waste our resources in such a way.
like you, dumm to land on Mars eh?
Wish you good luck . Buy a ticket to Mars , become a Mars Colonist, according to Generous Elon Musk , for the price of a house you or any body with courage and determintion, like the Pilgrins can resetle on a new world, no Indians but new technology makes it not just feasible but fun.
But where? Try 22.27 N, 132.05 E, where Viking one is waiting for you on the chryse Planitia
@Arturo4586 SURE❗️I'll save all my "Precious coins." In addition, I'll buy an 👽hat in case I meet my bro👽 during the pilgrims to stay in Mars. Plus, to buy a Viking hat 👒 👌as greetings 🙏.
AHHA❗️
HAPPY NEW YR 2025🎊
✨️🥂🍷🌟
~pearls 🤓
The biggest dilemma is how to sell land on Mars. Lol .
don't care what anybody says, i don't trust Musk
What good are you?
You’re missing out completely regarding his potential!
It dint sound like landing there will ever be prefected so wtf a waste of money and time when the money sholud be used to help others no just a huge waste of lifes
If people landed on teh Moon, they will lad on Mars, gravity is greater on mars than on the Moon.
Too much irrelevant information, get to the point faster, video disliked and reported, do better.
Reported your comment for misinformation.
@@StratumPress Oh no, what will i do.