I recently came across multiple TH-cam videos, saying that Ai will soon be repeating itself because it's running out of data, and that chat Gpt is losing 600 grand on a daily basis. I guess one of the things that we can do as artists is to speed up this by protecting our work and using nightshade and glaze or share our art in different way and not ready to scan type of images that I myself used to do with ig and my website. On the note of the website, if you are using squarespace like me, make sure to toggle off Ai crawling from your website because it's ticked on automatically.
oh yes! That's a great point about Squarespace! There is a setting you can turn off AI crawling. I'm not sure how well it works, but it's another step you can take.
I am a textile cad designer that has worked in fashion since 2003. I have recently been using AI to development prints for a print studio for the home and fashion markets for about 6 months now. Theres a lot to discuss! I would like to say that even though AI is fast, it does take time to understand how to use AI and generate images that are workable-in can take hours! I've spent hours generating images in Midjourney and it can be like the lottery--sometimes you get a design that you can work with and sometimes AI just completely misses the mark. So that's where you as a designer have to come in and use your design abilities to take the AI generated images to the next level and really make it your own. Also AI doesn't do things like half drop repeats, color indexing etc...there is still a level of manual hours you have to put into preparing your designs for production. Gosh there's so much to talk about!
oooh, this is SO interesting. I don't personally know anyone using AI like this, and obviously having the background you do, you understand what it takes to make a functional and marketable design. There IS so much to talk about, I have questions! The first would be why did you switch to using AI when you must have the capacity to design your own art and it does sound rather laborious to use AI? is it the ability to get new styles that you can't achieve? (I myself am not good at hyper realistic botanicals, for example...)
When I started in the early 90s, my first job I worked at a print studio where my job was to mix the colours. In gouache! I didnt even get to paint the designs. What I wouldn't have given even for Photoshop! It was soo boring. My boss was a monster and was so exacting for the shades. I did gain a very good colour sense though
😆 I guess it was good to have a job, but that does sound pretty boring, lol. My first boss was also very exacting with color and I thought I'd never have such a refined color sense, but I do think I' can be a bit of a color snob these days 😂
No one talks about the amount of vintage artwork that large fashion brands literally copy everyday! I spent many years in my career copying vintage paisleys, geos, etc., from vintage swatches that are purchased from vintage resellers...who find vintage on their travels to India. No one seems to be coming for those studios...when they should! There are so many unethical practices that the fashion industry has employed that have existed years before AI...It's so complicated!
Yes, that's true, I worked at as a staff designer and we did a lot of vintage prints. My understanding at the time was that they were out of copyright, but thinking about it now, I guess that actually takes 70 years and I'm sure some were not that old. It is indeed very complicated. Feel free to email me, maybe we can do some sort of video/convo about this in the future.
my guess, in all industries, the truly gifted and talented will survive. but the mediocre will lose their jobs. i could see it being used as a tool to speed your workflow.
I do see a particular fabric store on instagram with really savvy social media which *allegedly* designs and prints their own fabric prints but you can tell right away that it’s all AI. And they sell!
Elizabeth - I have seen actual artists; highly experienced SPD designers - cross over to using AI - to me - that is where the real threat is right now - these are not prompt engineers and nothing else - they are either using say Midjourney to either get illo concepts/ complete illo - and then take all that original hard work of ours and repaint it - or bash it together to create a derivative copy - and in some cases : making - patterns with it
It's true, this video only scratched the surface because it's evolving so fast, and I haven't gone down all the rabbit holes. Thanks for contributing your perspective/info!
one thing - totally get the digital PSD and Illustrator took over from trad artists …. though we still have trad artists … The digital age starting in the 80s - did not steal other people’s art - en masse AI is not the same thing … as say using a digital tool AI is basically a repository of stolen images - a cut n paste machine - pull a lever Digital tools starting in the 80s /90s did not steal other people’s art to function … they were just tools BIG difference ;)
True, but for those trained in painting who had never touched a computer, I think they probably saw digital designers as "not real artists" and felt their skillset was getting out-matched by technology. There are some major differences (copyright and stolen images being a massive one not to be discounted), but also some similarities.
thanks for this video - actually - sorry - you can give visual references one of the more recent updates to Midjourney - watched it happen in an SPD group :(
I recently came across multiple TH-cam videos, saying that Ai will soon be repeating itself because it's running out of data, and that chat Gpt is losing 600 grand on a daily basis. I guess one of the things that we can do as artists is to speed up this by protecting our work and using nightshade and glaze or share our art in different way and not ready to scan type of images that I myself used to do with ig and my website.
On the note of the website, if you are using squarespace like me, make sure to toggle off Ai crawling from your website because it's ticked on automatically.
oh yes! That's a great point about Squarespace! There is a setting you can turn off AI crawling. I'm not sure how well it works, but it's another step you can take.
Squarespace also has hidden crawlers - you may want to find a new site - sorry
Great info - ty! Really appreciate the tip about glaze and nightshade!
Glad it was helpful!
I am a textile cad designer that has worked in fashion since 2003. I have recently been using AI to development prints for a print studio for the home and fashion markets for about 6 months now. Theres a lot to discuss! I would like to say that even though AI is fast, it does take time to understand how to use AI and generate images that are workable-in can take hours! I've spent hours generating images in Midjourney and it can be like the lottery--sometimes you get a design that you can work with and sometimes AI just completely misses the mark. So that's where you as a designer have to come in and use your design abilities to take the AI generated images to the next level and really make it your own. Also AI doesn't do things like half drop repeats, color indexing etc...there is still a level of manual hours you have to put into preparing your designs for production. Gosh there's so much to talk about!
oooh, this is SO interesting. I don't personally know anyone using AI like this, and obviously having the background you do, you understand what it takes to make a functional and marketable design. There IS so much to talk about, I have questions! The first would be why did you switch to using AI when you must have the capacity to design your own art and it does sound rather laborious to use AI? is it the ability to get new styles that you can't achieve? (I myself am not good at hyper realistic botanicals, for example...)
Great topic to discuss. Ty
Thank you for this video - as a person who wants to get into this industry it’s a great thing to think about ❤
So glad it was helpful!
2:06 I’m pretty sure Inigo Montoya was looking for that Santa.
😂😂😂
You can always sell your designs as Print on Demand on your own website.🤗
Yes you can!
When I started in the early 90s, my first job I worked at a print studio where my job was to mix the colours. In gouache! I didnt even get to paint the designs. What I wouldn't have given even for Photoshop! It was soo boring. My boss was a monster and was so exacting for the shades. I did gain a very good colour sense though
😆 I guess it was good to have a job, but that does sound pretty boring, lol. My first boss was also very exacting with color and I thought I'd never have such a refined color sense, but I do think I' can be a bit of a color snob these days 😂
No one talks about the amount of vintage artwork that large fashion brands literally copy everyday! I spent many years in my career copying vintage paisleys, geos, etc., from vintage swatches that are purchased from vintage resellers...who find vintage on their travels to India. No one seems to be coming for those studios...when they should! There are so many unethical practices that the fashion industry has employed that have existed years before AI...It's so complicated!
Yes, that's true, I worked at as a staff designer and we did a lot of vintage prints. My understanding at the time was that they were out of copyright, but thinking about it now, I guess that actually takes 70 years and I'm sure some were not that old. It is indeed very complicated. Feel free to email me, maybe we can do some sort of video/convo about this in the future.
yeah, AI can do artwork in the style of an artist. i have seen it here on youtube.
And they can add specific images to reference as well.
Dang, well I guess I'm not surprised. Clearly, I haven't had the stomach to fully explore all the options out there!
my guess, in all industries, the truly gifted and talented will survive. but the mediocre will lose their jobs. i could see it being used as a tool to speed your workflow.
Yes, I'm guessing you're probably right...time will tell!
I do see a particular fabric store on instagram with really savvy social media which *allegedly* designs and prints their own fabric prints but you can tell right away that it’s all AI. And they sell!
oof that's not cool. What a bummer.
Elizabeth - I have seen actual artists; highly experienced SPD designers - cross over to using AI - to me - that is where the real threat is right now
- these are not prompt engineers and nothing else - they are either using say Midjourney to either get illo concepts/ complete illo - and then take all that original hard work of ours and repaint it - or bash it together to create a derivative copy
- and in some cases : making - patterns with it
It's true, this video only scratched the surface because it's evolving so fast, and I haven't gone down all the rabbit holes. Thanks for contributing your perspective/info!
one thing - totally get the digital PSD and Illustrator took over from trad artists ….
though we still have trad artists …
The digital age starting in the 80s - did not steal other people’s art - en masse
AI is not the same thing … as say using a digital tool
AI is basically a repository of stolen images - a cut n paste machine - pull a lever
Digital tools starting in the 80s /90s did not steal other people’s art to function … they were just tools
BIG difference ;)
True, but for those trained in painting who had never touched a computer, I think they probably saw digital designers as "not real artists" and felt their skillset was getting out-matched by technology. There are some major differences (copyright and stolen images being a massive one not to be discounted), but also some similarities.
thanks for this video - actually - sorry - you can give visual references one of the more recent updates to Midjourney - watched it happen in an SPD group :(
eek, yea I am not surprised that this is possible, thanks for letting me know.
EVERY Industry
True!
Haha yep, I lived through the vector era. So early 2000’s 😂
😂 It was SO COOL back then. Such is the way with styles and trends.