I’ve said this before in comments, I’d love to see multi-biome planets introduced. They should be somewhat rare and rather than adding them to the game in a way that would change planets that already have bases, they should identify planets that haven’t yet been discovered and re-seed a fraction of those. Then we’d have new discoveries without losing what we’ve created.
YES!!! Please let us spacewalk and have a rare chance to find explorable asteroids that we can build a space station on. EDIT: Please give us gas gaints aswell my god it would be so cool.
That's an idea I've never even thought of. Thing is it probably wouldn't be super hard to code, but it'd be so damn cool to make windows in it and see all the starships flying by!
Some of my favorite planets from before NEXT were animal-less lush worlds. They were so beautiful, but so eerie in their emptiness. It made me wonder if there were every animals here, and if so what happened to them. It was just so beautiful and sad at the same time Also I think I great way for them to do gas giants is to Give us either floating island worlds, or worlds where you never leave your ship but there’s tons of floating rocks, flora, and fauna. Maybe they could even add floating in atmosphere structures too. Like I think gas giants, while they would be cool, need to have something more to offer than just looking cool and I really believe adding new floating islands and animals and structures would really help give gas giants a proper place
I really want the floating islands idea. There's land, there's underwater.. and this would be a whole new kind of thing to navigate, especially if it was something crazy like islands being able to collide into each other, leaving you and your ship to float around and you can use your jetpack to get around.
Maybe gas giants could be used for collecting refinable gaseous forms of different materials and materials that are already gas. The devs could introduce a floating foundation and landing pad that you deploy from your ship so you can land.
I'm not sure how logical it would be to add animals and plants, floating asteroid-like rocks sounds more reasonable though, and perhaps a ship upgrade for gas harvesting that's faster than the current options. Adding in a ship busting plasma core along with increased planetary gravity would add a level of challenge to it as well.
Completely agree. Own both, and I love certain things about each one. If you fanboy out and only limit yourself to one or the other you're missing out. In SC, now ships don't just explode they'll become disabled and lose gravity. So you can play pirate, board a ship, kill the crew and take the cargo. Or, defend your ship from boarders (like the opening scene in Star Wars). Zero-G EVA space walking is so cool. I love manually repairing the external structure of my ship, shutting off satellites, exploring a wreck, boarding a ship or engaging in zero-G combat. Gas giants are amazing. The floating city of Orison is the most beautiful area I've seen in a game, period. The clouds at sunset is amazing. And biomes on planets make it feel like a real planet. NMS planets variety is amazing but it does feel samey after a while. You seen one point on a planet you've seen pretty much the whole planet. Both are great games. But both can learn from the other while still feeling unique.
Hello Games should make it possible to access the cargo bay on your hauler and use it as a make shift base like the bounty collector in pirate space stations. You could access it while in space to refine or gather gases while pulsing.
Yeeees, yeeeeeeeeees yes I wish some one at hello read your suggestion and why the hell did they remove first person warp. I think nms would be cool if some vykeen n gek on planetary surfaces in buildings or caves or sites were hostile n shot at u while trying to run away n hide n u kud get stuff from them
You are right ! Almost all of the planets in NMS are plenty of life and its kinda "bad" ... I love that game but I feel that exploring is still a bit boring sometimes... I need a more diversified fauna and flora, rock planets, desert... Everything in the game seems to be alive in abundance, but in such a gigantic universe you need more "dead" planets, which will make the exploration more varied and somehow a bit more realistic. I really need that in No Man's Sky
I agree with all of these, and would like to add my own brainstorms. Regarding Dungeons: On planet yes, with different types as you suggested with unique loot only found in these planetry dungeons. Regarding Ships. Rebel Galaxy had a great mechanic where a separate shield negated all damage as a button was held down with a long recharge. Hauler's would be great fro these. Regarding planets. This is why I love exploring dead planets. That sense of loneliness and isolation, not all planets need life. This merges well with an earlier idea you mentioned where caves could have abundant minerals.
I like these ideas! Maybe as far as Haulers are concerned, if they can't have more inventory space, maybe they could be like your freighter have a higher stack size for items. So even though the inventory slots could be even with say an explorer or fighter, the inventory space* would be much higher
I know this is said before but I would love to build my own starship (depending on the ship type you're looking for), you can buy many different body parts from space stations even illegal ship parts from space pirate hideouts; each one randomly different on each star system. They can range from seven parts; Fuselage, Wings, Engine, Decal, Paint job, Ship's HUD, and Weapons (maybe for the cosmetic aspect). And with a bit of personal customization, you could tweak the ship's design to suit your look... Want the wings to look more swept? Rotate it forward or backward. Want the wings and/or Engine angled; A simple rotation up or down could help that... I think this would give the player something to chase. A dream ship of their own making. Oh, and not to make the pre-generated starships useless, they can buy the pre-generated ships and design them to their liking. I also thought of another thing... What if someone finds a crashed ship with a cool-looking Fuselage, Wing, Engine, Decal, Paint job, Ship HUD, or Weapons part? They should have the ability to take that crashed ship to their Freighter to have them "Chop" Harvest the parts and sell the rest. This would encourage the players to explore more and be rewarded for it. When I play NMS, I like to call myself a "Scrapper" because I look for downed satellites and the very thought of this... actually makes me wanna get out there and do more of that. XD
So many good points I could write a book on, but I will try to be concise. 5. Maybe as a compromise you could only space walk during certain space encounters when there is a reason to, or tether the player to their ship to limit their range. 4. I'd like to see gas giants if they added a new game play mechanic and a way to record them as discovered. If it was up to me (probably a good thing its not) I would have used the living frigate assets to make fauna for a gas giant biome and make settlements a floating cloud city. Regrettably, I have to concede trying to shoe horn them in this late in the process would be very difficult and might require re-rolling all planets. 3. More dungeons and cave overhaul would be an awesome update. There could be a certain type of dungeon that is more combat focused (raid the nest of the horrors on an infested planet) and others that are puzzled focused (switch puzzles, find the passwords, find the pieces of the broken lock). Maybe these can tie back to the scrap dealer, maybe make it a salvage guide that hands out missions. 2. My favorite ship is my fan wing hauler. Its the only ship I spent a notable amount of time searching for. I feel like it got nerfed when cargo was reworked which mildly annoys me. Each ship wold have a set of specialized tech that gives is special abilities. Same thing for Exo Craft that cold really use another update. I am also mildly annoyed by the seemly large portion of uses who want an "all of the above" option for everything. There are not enough hard chooses in the game which is actually part of the reason why it sometimes feel "shallow" or "Hollow" Pushing for ship specializations with some limited chooses (you can add A or B to this ship but not both) could go a long way to improve this, but the peanut gallery will scream. 1. Planet generation tends to create repetitive terrain. Walking in any given direction is like walking across a sin wave with some signal noise. I'd like to see more clearly defined mountain ranges, valleys, and plains. This would then allow those areas to have different subsets of flora, fauna, and mineral assets. Regrettably, I have to concede doing this would require re-rolling planets which will blow up all existing bases. I don't think we need multi biomes in the sense of arctic, temperate, and tropic areas on the same planet. This would actually make planets more samey by reducing the number of planet types. Instead of having 30-ish planet types you would have 5-ish planet types with ~6 biomes each.
I'm a huge fan of both games and personally think NMS ship combat is more of a power check than a fair fight; I still like that NMS has a more arcade focus and don't want it to get too overcomplicated. My solution is to add strafing (the right stick on gamepad is mostly unused) and make shields recharge slower (still taking more sodium/batteries when you're hit but recharging slowly), this way combat isn't just a sodium bidding war with discount coupons called upgrades.
I hold myself to #2 (starship specialization) on an RP level, but it would be great to have this supported by in-game mechanics with concrete pros and cons to each ship class.
I think a good compromise for walk-around-able starship interiors would be to spruce up the interiors of frigates. Variegate the interiors a little bit, and for the love of Atlas, put some NPCs on those things--given that they're said to be fully crewed, the fact that they're always empty is a little disappointing and frankly kind of creepy. (I can give a pass to my one frigate that says its "crewed by ghosts." That one being empty makes sense.)
@Kanayu you absolutely nailed it with the need of empty landscapes. If I miss one thing in NMS is the dynamics of opposites like loud/quiet, full/empty, bright/dark. Universe is so much packed with stuff that it's almost unbearable. You jump into the unknown system, never discovered before and all of the sudden there are 5 planets around you, space station, full fucking fleets of ships warping on your location, mining ships join you in asteroid fields, pirate attacks you in forgotten temples, you do 0.1 dmg to some structure and you have endless waves of interceptors pursuing you into infinity...
Honestly, adding gas giants to the game would be an amazing decision, and it could play incredibly well into the more specialized ships idea. But to start they could add in a technology and upgrades that allow for "scooping" hydrogen from the atmospheres of said giants, but make it to where staying in the atmosphere for too long could result in critical damage to your ship. But to offset that you could have a specialized scoop ship that can last in the atmosphere for longer, and go deeper to get more exotic fuels. It would be an amazing addition I'm sure, and all the possibilities that could come of it would make the game so much better in my opinion. Thought doesn't mean I don't think the game is absolutely amazing as it is, but it can still improve. Oh, and by hydrogen I mean all isotopes, not just protium, deuterium, or tritium, but all three. Not all at the same efficiency or rates, and certain technology modules could make one isotope get scooped more efficiently, but you'd get all three. And the exotic fuels could be used for more efficient refueling devices, like the warp hypercore requiring something only found deep within the gas giants, ie metallic hydrogen. I could go on and on, but that would take hours. But the point being, there is so much that could come from gas giants being added, and I'd love to see how they would do it.
At what point do HG consider a sequel? I feel NMS is hampered by ageing hardware. A fresh game without those limitations, with everything HG have learned (mostly the hard way) and with some new ideas, they could make something that finally gives them the recognition they deserve after the disaster NMS was upon release. I still have people who won't even consider touching the game because of those early days, no matter how much I praise what HG have accomplished. Anyway, just a thought...maybe a video on the pros and cons of a sequel could garner some interest? :)
Agreed! A new game with a bunch of overhauls and new features I think is the way to go into the future maybe some quality of life fixes and console optimizations
I would love a sequel. No Man's Sky would greatly benefit from a completely new framework built for better hardware. A video on pros and cons might be fun. Thanks for commenting!
Great video! I always thought NMS needed multicrew. Like you said, NMS can’t have ship interiors like SC but it could have some of the functionality like turrets and access to ship functions. Without changing the size of ships, turrets could be added allowing players to join you in your ship and have independent access to their own weapons, scanner, map, etc.
OR The other way around. 50 things Star citizen can learn from no man's sky ! like simplified starmap, simple flying techniques , worlds loaded with life, resources..etc !! Great Video BTW....as always..!! Thank you
Outer Wilds kinda gives a good idea of how to use zero-gravity mechanics (and planetary puzzle mechanics and touching story in general) I also never shut up about more dungeons. They could be vital for overhauling the story missions and allow for new puzzle and giant/boss fight mechanics. And they'd give more value to places of interest & encounters.
And while I do want a chance of secondary polar biomes, as well as exotic & old NMS terrain... ...I also really like your suggestions on making a vertical variety and quieter spots for plant types.
Most of these things would require a good re-work of code and a galaxy reboot. The last one, NEXT, essentially changed some of the art style of the game, so I believe to make landscapes as gorgeous as those they need to change it again, not entirely, but the current style of No Man's Sky is way more focused in the Alien Storybook/Comicbooks design, where it feels like someone is paiting that, so there's a feel of creativity in NMS, Start Citizen feels more realistic, like a Final Fantasy XV map for example. I don't think they need to abandon the NMS design, but to make landscapes that feel less like a fairy tail painting, they need to change the artistic style to make a few stuff more realistic. Frankly, I doubt they would do that. But I agree, the way NMS creates terrain feels random, there's barely an open flat space anymore, and most of the designs are foreign to us. At this point, I don't think Hello Games want to make a REstart of the Galaxy again, even if I'm ok with one.
I'd be happy with another reset, but I know plenty of people would hate it. And I agree that gas giants and updated biomes would require a rework of code, I actually think space walking, planetary dungeons, and starship specialization could be supported in the current version of the game. Sentinel Pillars and Settlements demonstrated the game's ability to add new POIs without a reset. Starship stats and inventory have been changed independently of their visuals multiple times over the years. The tricky one would be space walking, but swimming controls could be used as a base. They would need to code in a bunch of interactions with existing space objects, plus add a "call ship" button for space, but I don't think it would be as dramatic of a rework as one might expect. Of course, I could be 100% wrong, since I don't have the source code in front of me. lol
NMS still does have some dead planets which are pretty common. Though there really should be more barren planets. I agree with your premise that there should be more empty worlds.
2:58 It'd also be very interesting if players could salvage crates in space. Like if they occasionally spawned in full of goodies, but you have to exit your ship and float around..
I genuinely feel like Starfield, at least from what I've seen on early footage, has taken the best of ideas of NMS, I hope some of the things you have mentioned will be in that game as well. When it comes to EVAs and Space Salvage, Hardspace Shipbreaker has one of the best examples of salvaging gameplay.
I think a small interior for some of the ships would be awesome and would not be so hard to create for example a few metre corridor opening outside door and could be a specialized slot for some other equipment. Some of the ships in no mans sky are big enough to have these kind of upgrades. Of cource fighters and other ships with little space cant have interior so it would add more difference for the ships how you want
Really, the ships just need a small design change to look like they have hatch doors and entry ladders. Make every ship, landing pad (not entry points since you just need a change of FOV/POV) and make the half to double the size. Then add some details to interiors.
Even the hauler is not big enough for that. Hauler hulk is about half the width of a corridor. Even the small shop inside a hollowed out hauler in the outlaw station isn't really inside, it sticks out both sides. Ships would need to be rescaled at least 3x for even a small interior which would add much game play.
I would also like there to actually visibly see your equipment in no man’s sky like analysis visor and your multi tool by your side and things like that just to add to realism
Love the gas giants, dungeons, and spacewalk suggestions. Would like to see more alien races especially non bipedal. But I’ll take anyone. They don’t have to be playable or to gain rep with. Just species to encounter and fight.
Regarding point 1, there are still some worlds out there that are next to desolate. My home base is on such a world, a monochrome world where there is nothing but vast canyons of rocks and dark crystal formations very sparsely populated by only 2 kinds of robotic wildlife. Finding such worlds is rare, but they do exist still.
In addition to space walk, low gravity came to mind. Walking on the frigate platforms feels the same as space stations and planets and it doesn't feel natural to be walking like that in space
I think number 1 and 2 would make a HUGE difference in the game experience, making it feel more immersive and less repetitive. You definetively nailed this list of features. Improved Geology is something I wish the work too, but I think it's more difficult for the team.
If they added gas giants I’d want them to have a way to collect gas from the planet, maybe some type of orbital base or use our Freighters to do it. I don’t want gas giants to be just a pretty thing to look at.
I agree! Though if we can only get them as pretty things to look at, I wouldn't be too upset. 😉 Having crazy gravity that makes them difficult to navigate around would be cool too.
We need city planets, per lore they exist, there simply not in the game at minimum we need colossal dead cities, we also need traversable ships much like SC but not as elaborate for the sake of landing on landing platforms, similar to the cargo ship on pirate stations, that would do or maybe like the one from Outer Wilds. As for Star Citizen that game actually needs alien animal life on at least some of there worlds, and the Oceans should be traversable. Epic video nonetheless! :)
Imo, they'd do a lot better if every planet had TWO biome tags, not one, at random. Dead- 1/2 each per each tag Scorched, Frozen, Toxic, Irradiated- 1/9 chance each Lush- 1/18 chance (also would not have hot storms by default). Marsh, Volcanic, Barren, Infested etc worlds could be sub-variations of the above. A planet would be a mix of it's tags- lush/scorched could be a burning jungle, frozen/toxic could be a noxious muskeg, irradiated/dead could be a blasted wasteland. The flora, fauna, weather, colours, and minerals would be selected randomly from each tag. The most common worlds would be Dead/Dead, then Dead/(S/F/T/I), then mixed elements, the elemental and Lush, with true Lush/Lush Paradise planets being very rare. It'd increase both vertical (amount of life on each planet) and horizontal (differences between each planet) variation, without ever needing to add new assets.
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How about... we could claim these underground robotic facilities like a base.. and we could build in them ? that would be perfect for me personally, i often build underground.
I agree with most of these points, space walks would be awesome and barren places would be nice. But i don't see the point in complicating the starship, sure when you're late in the game and have everything you want, I could see the desire for specialized ships, but a lot of people try this game out on game pass and give up when they have a hard time fighting the environment to find the elements they need to get their space Honda off their first planet. So while starship specialities would be cool, I think it would deter new players.
idk about you, but I find dead planets with low gravity quite often. Some anomalous planets are devoid of life, often not having a simple animal(or having that single animal extinct). But we do need more massive-landscapes, like larger deserts and stuff, not a cactus every meter of the way.
I'm very down with your ideas on the spaceships! We can collect them, give us reasons to! Also, the spacewalk idea is cool, but I think it should be limited. I fell off a freighter and died with no grave when I didn't know that could happen, and I couldn't get back up to a place to get back into the freighter. If we could do short spacewalks I probably could have.
You mentioned about walking outside of frigates to repair but we've been able to do that since the day they added frigates. Js I'm not being rude I swear.
I think that you could say the same for the other way around. Having to wait 10 minutes just to fly to a single location sucks when you could just pulse your way there in 10 secconds in no mans sky. Ship combat is also annoyingly complex in star citizen when in no mans sky it is easy to learn, and difficult to master.
SC does a lot of things other games don't, simply because of how much work they are to implement. That's one reason I love SC so much, it operates under completely different logic than other games.
Yeah, the amount of money they can throw at development is insane. I may not agree with all of their funding methods, but I do respect the technology they've developed.
don t know what you think about it but "multi crew" or "use of turret to defend your carrier" ? in my mind i think as both as doing the same stuff, just one beeing solo. could be a event / mission where you have to defend your fleet or some npc one against wave of fighters. it would be something wayyyy more oldstyle still, like flying the B 17 in secret of the luftwarffe ( sorry if i butcher the game name), you can just swtich position with any turret around the plane / ship , obviously that would be remot controled turret.
From the mentioned Elite:Dangerous I miss in NMS having planet with different gravitation. Is in E:D I like how it changes the travel on planet - on low gravity one player can fly above ground with using of jetpack and land more safely. On normal gravity planet player has to be careful with jetpack. And high gravity planets - there even just landing is challenge itself. In fact, in No man's sky I enjoyed already the low gravity of the dead planets. But unfortunetaly, there is usually no reason to go there, aside of collecting alien eggs.
Would love if each planet had its own gravitational pull. Moons should have a lower pull and super planets should make travel on foot a challenge. What custom difficulty showed us is that the game can be heavily customized, so we could get the default arcade mode and a simulation mode that feels more real. With different gravity and atmosphere density to planet rotation and such.
Major problem with NMS engine is that it MUST work on Nin10do Switch also, so your forced to abide by the stats of the switch compared to the other systems. The Switch device was a BAD move for this game. you won't be seeing Star Citizen or Starfield on a switch... This was the biggest mistake HelloGames have ever done There are mods that make the PC version so much more than the standard, but with the amount of updates this games gets, these mods go out of version fast. So other than graphics/engine limitations they now have SIZE to worry about also due to limitations of switch hardware.
You're too kind! I'm sure HG have no shortage of great ideas, it's probably just a matter of picking which ideas to allocate resources to. Thanks for watching!
The only thing that keeps me playing Star Citizen is the flight model and the starships. Otherwise it's gonna be No Man's Sky if I want to build something.
I've never understood the desire for spacewalking and still don't. Gas Giants would be awesome and I have wondered why they are not in the game for years but with out a complete rework for the crafting system any rare resources added would be a complete waste. The other suggestions all sound useful for their own points. I have never played or seen game play of Star Citizen but some thing I would like I already pointed towards is a revamp of the crafting system at the moment it is little more than another way to make money. Food was a nice add but it really doesn't do any thing if you never use it either. I just feel like there is so much potential in things you could *make* and *use* . Self defense Turrets that you could set up to secure your base from sentinel, Alien, and Pirate attacks. Upgrades that could use better and better materials or better things we can use that use things already in the game like the Stasis Device.
Yes yes yes on the empty landscapes! Now it's like playing on one armed bandit and always getting your coin back, the game would feel much stronger if life was rare.
About No Man’s Sky I love your idea of planetary Dungeons,… we need to be able to visit the World of Glass in the story as well as dungeons accessible via missions. We also need considerably Less waterworlds until they fix the VR and crashing issues.
Honestly, I think some gaps in the world is required. Spacing out fauna and flora makes the game much more wonderful, and allows discovery of lifeforms to be much more special Furthermore, as a veteran, I remember when the land had large loops and curved bridges and smooth tower mountains. Those really gave some specialness to the environment. I think mising the new and old landspace of No Man's Sky brings a balance of beauty, finding isolation in the worlds and connection via life and death. That's just my two cents.
We seriously need a ability to land on water. I find planets with a massive amount of water all the time and struggle to find a place to land near by something i'm interested in
#5 & #4: 100%. #3: Although I already consider the caves in NMS to be planetary dungeons, it's true that they are not very dangerous or anything. The occasional clusters of eggs and increasing the chance for underground predators and such would indeed improve the experience. I like that there are caves that are just caves too, but the variety of added danger as a possibility would be great. Especially when there's already loot in caves. #2: Meh. #1: Eh... I have seen tons of worlds that have low flora and fauna. I guess the main difference you mentioned is to have regions of the planet carry more or less rather than an even distribution throughout, but that's the same kind of change as adding planetary biomes. They do have fauna that only appear in certain regions already though, and they definitely could expand on that. I'd still like to see planetary biomes and temperature ranges based on angle of rotation, time of year, et cetera. While adding planetary biomes would be an overhaul, they already have the angle of rotation and such programmed in to affect the time of day differently in different parts of a planet. So it would just take adding a formula based on that to affect the temperature in different regions. That would be a subtle but awesome improvement, and could later be expanded by programming in automatic biome changes based on consistent temperatures.
On the combat front i want to command from my capital ship. I dont like dog fighting, and ive got all these combat ships that seem to barely help when im under attack.
I figured out you can space walk on your frigate fleet that surrounds your frigate, but if you try to go outside the freighter base you quickly lose all your life support and die. Walking around on the frigates surprised me, I was expecting to just clip through it. I would like to see more things in space that can be walked on though, like maybe walk around on an asteroid, but the gravity might be too low for something of that size.
This is my "wish-list" for NMS, not really Star Citizen related. 1. More planet types. NMS has quite a bit of planet types, but as someone who explored a lot of them and found pretty much any biome, not many strike any interest for me. Maybe one that's just crystals? or just glass that's reflective? 2. Space Station interior variety It'd be a very interesting but decently sized change. Space stations have different appearances on the outside, but nothing really changes. Maybe just three/four which vary depending on the dominant race? 3. Better fauna farming/creature farming The current animal farming system lacks a lot of interesting features. I would really like to see something like putting your pets into an animal pen, and harvesting products. That's just my little ramble :) NMS is very large, and I know it's probably hard to code so much for such a big game, but I really want another refresher. And happy early easter/valentines day.
All points are quite smart ideas. Good video! The idea of different spaceships is one of my favorites. In my opinion, they are like the planets: One is enough, if you visited one, you have seen them all. Of course, it's not exactly like that, but it's pretty close. And why not introduce a medium class of ships, something we use for a special mission? In that case we can have something like in Star citizen. A spaceship that would have several rooms and a hangar for one of the ships we have, and the mission would determine which ship to take, without the option to change it during the mission, which would make sense for there to be differences between them. Also on another great topic: I would like to land on different planets. It pretty much all are the same, that killed my desire to search for planets in the game. They are all the same. And I thought, there are more types of planets at first. I would like to go to one that is like Mars; another which is like a titan covered with heavy water or a gas giant, and some with great atmosphere full with life. Why not a brown dwarf that, if it lures you into its atmosphere, can crush you... Don’t get me wrong I get that this sound like is not an easy task. But trust me it will make the game unbelievably beautiful and explorable. In the end this is what we want, right?
I think a good next step for Hello Games would be a more sim oriented version of NMS. Maybe not fully sim like FS 2020 or DCS, but more realistic than the arcadey cartoony game of the current No Mans Sky. Space the planets out more and make travel take longer. Make the ships bigger and let you walk around in them. (with friends) Maybe add some multicrew features like turrets or engineering stations. Go with a more realistic color pallet and bigger settlements. They've already got a very good basis to build on and going a bit more sim oriented would allow them more access to the markets currently occupied by Elite and Star Citizen.
i'd like for star citizen to have a 3rd person view as well, something about walking on a vast unknown planet while seeing your character just hits different.
i can definitely agree with gas giants and empty planets. part of me wants to find a physical copy of nms on ps4 so i can remove all updates so i could see dead planets for myself.
maybe this is the Milsim player in me, but I'd like to see more shooter mechanics added to No Man's Sky to make the combat a bit more engaging. I think being able to fight humanoid enemies would be really cool. to follow up with the planetary dungeons point, wouldn't it be awesome if you found a Vy'keen pirate outpost and had to fight through a group of equals with shields, health, conventional firearms and jetpacks, just like you. i think being able to fight pirates outside of gameplay and maybe even developing pirate factions with different motivations and goals (one pirate faction per species?) would really enhance the combat side of No Man's Sky.
I agree, I came to nms because I can't afford a machine to run star citizen and its awesome but there are too many things on planets, I want a blank canvas for building on.
@@trinityx3o522 Sure. Let me see. My laptop is pretty old. CPU is Intel Core i7-8550U, 8th Gen. GPU is NVIDIA GeForce 940MX, the integrated GPU is Intel UHD Graphics 620. 16gb of RAM at 2400 MHz, so maybe DDR4? And of course an SSD. Huh. I suppose my PC sort of meets minimum specs, but I don't have 83 gb of free space. Ever. I'm constantly syncing stuff to the cloud just to stay above 45gb free. So I couldn't install SC even if I wanted to. 🙃
I think for ship interiors they could always create a new class of ships they don’t have to be big or too small. I mean it would be nice to be able to walk into your ship and sit down or see a small cargo bay, or living quarters
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I definitely agree with these points. No Man's Sky is pretty cool, but there's always improvements and inspiration to use to help the game become even better. Also, Star Citizen should have smooth transition into planets, like No Man's Sky.
Multiplayer needs a dedicated servers so streamline the lags from different persons and make the multiplayer more stable. Relying on a peer-to-peer connection will always be bad, because a person with bad computer and internet will always lag, and if it happens to be the host, almost nothing works in the game properly. Half the packages are lost, some base parts are not streamed because of that. With dedicated servers for the game will be much easier to stream content between players, make proper parties (and hopefully guilds). So much potential here.,,.
The main thing i find samey about planets is i feel like the parts pool for plants, minerals, animals are too small. I prefer being an explorer and have noticed very heavily the repeating use of the same models on different planets. I agree more barren worlds that look like low-atmo planet landscapes is a great idea, but simply expanding the polls of parts things can spawn from would add a lot of new variety too.
I absolutely agree the game could benefit from more variety in distribution of the assets on planets, every rock seems to be the same distance to the next rock type vibe. Also, make HOT 🔥 planets somewhat fun to explore, there’s legit like 1 tree for every lava planet teehee
I would like bounties to be tracked in space and on a planet. There’s a mission already like this for your armorer. You have hunt and pirate and track him down on planet. I would like a few variations of this mission to play with.
i dont like the class system on like exosuit/tool/ships especially ships and focus more on upgrades. like example my freighter has so many free spaces for upgrades (i know its lacking right now for that) *agree with more specialized tech* or have more a skill gain for the ship class the longer you use it the more you unlock, something just doesnt feel right to me about the ship class thing
If i am honest by comparison star citizen should learn stuff from no man's sky. Like the fact that they often break a lot with each update and spend so much time fixing it that they barely have time to get stuff the fandom wants since they only added ships that don't have any function yet in the game that also have elements brought into the game but aren't fixed at all like the elevators in ships like the redeemer where the player since that ship was out still has phisics problems. Another thing sc should learn from nms is ship controlling knowing leaving the port is so much complicated and there is no tutorial to speak off. And let's not forget the 30.000 player limit in a server wich still hasn't really been expanded upon or making a bit smoother experience instead of just crashing when that limit has been reached.
5 things Star Citizen can learn from NMS: How to make a game fun How to fix a failed launch Base building How to create simple systems that keep the player engaged How to fix bugs
I think ship interiors would still be nice to have. They don’t have to be to the scale of SC. Even if it’s just walking into the hanger and to the cockpit
I’ve said this before in comments, I’d love to see multi-biome planets introduced. They should be somewhat rare and rather than adding them to the game in a way that would change planets that already have bases, they should identify planets that haven’t yet been discovered and re-seed a fraction of those. Then we’d have new discoveries without losing what we’ve created.
This.
I was kinda disappointed that planets are just one big biome in No Mans Sky.
Same with storms. It's really weird having planet-wide storms instead of intense localized ones.
YES!!! Please let us spacewalk and have a rare chance to find explorable asteroids that we can build a space station on. EDIT: Please give us gas gaints aswell my god it would be so cool.
Now this is what I fully endorse!
Explorable asteroids sound awesome. Not sure how viable building on them would be, but I like the spirit! Thanks for watching!
That's an idea I've never even thought of. Thing is it probably wouldn't be super hard to code, but it'd be so damn cool to make windows in it and see all the starships flying by!
@@popsmaellard725 it would be hard to build in zero G without it being weird but I think they could do it!
Or like an astroid with mining colony on it that functions similarly to a space station
Some of my favorite planets from before NEXT were animal-less lush worlds. They were so beautiful, but so eerie in their emptiness. It made me wonder if there were every animals here, and if so what happened to them. It was just so beautiful and sad at the same time
Also I think I great way for them to do gas giants is to
Give us either floating island worlds, or worlds where you never leave your ship but there’s tons of floating rocks, flora, and fauna. Maybe they could even add floating in atmosphere structures too. Like I think gas giants, while they would be cool, need to have something more to offer than just looking cool and I really believe adding new floating islands and animals and structures would really help give gas giants a proper place
I really want the floating islands idea. There's land, there's underwater.. and this would be a whole new kind of thing to navigate, especially if it was something crazy like islands being able to collide into each other, leaving you and your ship to float around and you can use your jetpack to get around.
Maybe get some stuff like this th-cam.com/video/wkk1ohg99FY/w-d-xo.html
Maybe gas giants could be used for collecting refinable gaseous forms of different materials and materials that are already gas. The devs could introduce a floating foundation and landing pad that you deploy from your ship so you can land.
I'm not sure how logical it would be to add animals and plants, floating asteroid-like rocks sounds more reasonable though, and perhaps a ship upgrade for gas harvesting that's faster than the current options. Adding in a ship busting plasma core along with increased planetary gravity would add a level of challenge to it as well.
Literally exactly what I was thinking they should do with gas giants
Completely agree. Own both, and I love certain things about each one. If you fanboy out and only limit yourself to one or the other you're missing out. In SC, now ships don't just explode they'll become disabled and lose gravity. So you can play pirate, board a ship, kill the crew and take the cargo. Or, defend your ship from boarders (like the opening scene in Star Wars).
Zero-G EVA space walking is so cool. I love manually repairing the external structure of my ship, shutting off satellites, exploring a wreck, boarding a ship or engaging in zero-G combat.
Gas giants are amazing. The floating city of Orison is the most beautiful area I've seen in a game, period. The clouds at sunset is amazing. And biomes on planets make it feel like a real planet. NMS planets variety is amazing but it does feel samey after a while. You seen one point on a planet you've seen pretty much the whole planet.
Both are great games. But both can learn from the other while still feeling unique.
That's the right attitude! It's perfectly fine to enjoy different games for different reasons. Your assessments are appreciated. Thanks for watching!
Great ideas, and I definitely agree adding this to the gameplay now would make the game greater.
Thanks and thanks for watching!
Hello Games should make it possible to access the cargo bay on your hauler and use it as a make shift base like the bounty collector in pirate space stations. You could access it while in space to refine or gather gases while pulsing.
Yeeees, yeeeeeeeeees yes I wish some one at hello read your suggestion and why the hell did they remove first person warp. I think nms would be cool if some vykeen n gek on planetary surfaces in buildings or caves or sites were hostile n shot at u while trying to run away n hide n u kud get stuff from them
I want dry, actually barren deserts.
I love the variety now, I do, but imagine a planet so sparse that it's exciting if you found life
Exactly
You are right ! Almost all of the planets in NMS are plenty of life and its kinda "bad" ... I love that game but I feel that exploring is still a bit boring sometimes... I need a more diversified fauna and flora, rock planets, desert... Everything in the game seems to be alive in abundance, but in such a gigantic universe you need more "dead" planets, which will make the exploration more varied and somehow a bit more realistic. I really need that in No Man's Sky
I agree with all of these, and would like to add my own brainstorms.
Regarding Dungeons: On planet yes, with different types as you suggested with unique loot only found in these planetry dungeons.
Regarding Ships. Rebel Galaxy had a great mechanic where a separate shield negated all damage as a button was held down with a long recharge. Hauler's would be great fro these.
Regarding planets. This is why I love exploring dead planets. That sense of loneliness and isolation, not all planets need life. This merges well with an earlier idea you mentioned where caves could have abundant minerals.
I like these ideas! Maybe as far as Haulers are concerned, if they can't have more inventory space, maybe they could be like your freighter have a higher stack size for items. So even though the inventory slots could be even with say an explorer or fighter, the inventory space* would be much higher
I know this is said before but I would love to build my own starship (depending on the ship type you're looking for), you can buy many different body parts from space stations even illegal ship parts from space pirate hideouts; each one randomly different on each star system. They can range from seven parts; Fuselage, Wings, Engine, Decal, Paint job, Ship's HUD, and Weapons (maybe for the cosmetic aspect). And with a bit of personal customization, you could tweak the ship's design to suit your look... Want the wings to look more swept? Rotate it forward or backward. Want the wings and/or Engine angled; A simple rotation up or down could help that... I think this would give the player something to chase. A dream ship of their own making.
Oh, and not to make the pre-generated starships useless, they can buy the pre-generated ships and design them to their liking. I also thought of another thing... What if someone finds a crashed ship with a cool-looking Fuselage, Wing, Engine, Decal, Paint job, Ship HUD, or Weapons part? They should have the ability to take that crashed ship to their Freighter to have them "Chop" Harvest the parts and sell the rest. This would encourage the players to explore more and be rewarded for it. When I play NMS, I like to call myself a "Scrapper" because I look for downed satellites and the very thought of this... actually makes me wanna get out there and do more of that. XD
Yea but that kinda makes ship hunting obsolete.
@@williambutcher7429 rare components that can only generate on random ships
Welp, your wish kinda begame true
@@PepeChadIsDaGoat lol Right? Isn't the timing oddly perfect. XD
So many good points I could write a book on, but I will try to be concise.
5. Maybe as a compromise you could only space walk during certain space encounters when there is a reason to, or tether the player to their ship to limit their range.
4. I'd like to see gas giants if they added a new game play mechanic and a way to record them as discovered. If it was up to me (probably a good thing its not) I would have used the living frigate assets to make fauna for a gas giant biome and make settlements a floating cloud city. Regrettably, I have to concede trying to shoe horn them in this late in the process would be very difficult and might require re-rolling all planets.
3. More dungeons and cave overhaul would be an awesome update. There could be a certain type of dungeon that is more combat focused (raid the nest of the horrors on an infested planet) and others that are puzzled focused (switch puzzles, find the passwords, find the pieces of the broken lock). Maybe these can tie back to the scrap dealer, maybe make it a salvage guide that hands out missions.
2. My favorite ship is my fan wing hauler. Its the only ship I spent a notable amount of time searching for. I feel like it got nerfed when cargo was reworked which mildly annoys me. Each ship wold have a set of specialized tech that gives is special abilities. Same thing for Exo Craft that cold really use another update. I am also mildly annoyed by the seemly large portion of uses who want an "all of the above" option for everything. There are not enough hard chooses in the game which is actually part of the reason why it sometimes feel "shallow" or "Hollow" Pushing for ship specializations with some limited chooses (you can add A or B to this ship but not both) could go a long way to improve this, but the peanut gallery will scream.
1. Planet generation tends to create repetitive terrain. Walking in any given direction is like walking across a sin wave with some signal noise. I'd like to see more clearly defined mountain ranges, valleys, and plains. This would then allow those areas to have different subsets of flora, fauna, and mineral assets. Regrettably, I have to concede doing this would require re-rolling planets which will blow up all existing bases. I don't think we need multi biomes in the sense of arctic, temperate, and tropic areas on the same planet. This would actually make planets more samey by reducing the number of planet types. Instead of having 30-ish planet types you would have 5-ish planet types with ~6 biomes each.
I'm a huge fan of both games and personally think NMS ship combat is more of a power check than a fair fight; I still like that NMS has a more arcade focus and don't want it to get too overcomplicated. My solution is to add strafing (the right stick on gamepad is mostly unused) and make shields recharge slower (still taking more sodium/batteries when you're hit but recharging slowly), this way combat isn't just a sodium bidding war with discount coupons called upgrades.
I hold myself to #2 (starship specialization) on an RP level, but it would be great to have this supported by in-game mechanics with concrete pros and cons to each ship class.
I think a good compromise for walk-around-able starship interiors would be to spruce up the interiors of frigates. Variegate the interiors a little bit, and for the love of Atlas, put some NPCs on those things--given that they're said to be fully crewed, the fact that they're always empty is a little disappointing and frankly kind of creepy. (I can give a pass to my one frigate that says its "crewed by ghosts." That one being empty makes sense.)
@Kanayu you absolutely nailed it with the need of empty landscapes. If I miss one thing in NMS is the dynamics of opposites like loud/quiet, full/empty, bright/dark. Universe is so much packed with stuff that it's almost unbearable. You jump into the unknown system, never discovered before and all of the sudden there are 5 planets around you, space station, full fucking fleets of ships warping on your location, mining ships join you in asteroid fields, pirate attacks you in forgotten temples, you do 0.1 dmg to some structure and you have endless waves of interceptors pursuing you into infinity...
Honestly, adding gas giants to the game would be an amazing decision, and it could play incredibly well into the more specialized ships idea. But to start they could add in a technology and upgrades that allow for "scooping" hydrogen from the atmospheres of said giants, but make it to where staying in the atmosphere for too long could result in critical damage to your ship. But to offset that you could have a specialized scoop ship that can last in the atmosphere for longer, and go deeper to get more exotic fuels. It would be an amazing addition I'm sure, and all the possibilities that could come of it would make the game so much better in my opinion. Thought doesn't mean I don't think the game is absolutely amazing as it is, but it can still improve.
Oh, and by hydrogen I mean all isotopes, not just protium, deuterium, or tritium, but all three. Not all at the same efficiency or rates, and certain technology modules could make one isotope get scooped more efficiently, but you'd get all three. And the exotic fuels could be used for more efficient refueling devices, like the warp hypercore requiring something only found deep within the gas giants, ie metallic hydrogen. I could go on and on, but that would take hours. But the point being, there is so much that could come from gas giants being added, and I'd love to see how they would do it.
At what point do HG consider a sequel? I feel NMS is hampered by ageing hardware. A fresh game without those limitations, with everything HG have learned (mostly the hard way) and with some new ideas, they could make something that finally gives them the recognition they deserve after the disaster NMS was upon release. I still have people who won't even consider touching the game because of those early days, no matter how much I praise what HG have accomplished. Anyway, just a thought...maybe a video on the pros and cons of a sequel could garner some interest? :)
Agreed! A new game with a bunch of overhauls and new features I think is the way to go into the future maybe some quality of life fixes and console optimizations
I would love a sequel. No Man's Sky would greatly benefit from a completely new framework built for better hardware. A video on pros and cons might be fun. Thanks for commenting!
@@renmcmanus hard agree! They should really finish the first game before they even think about a sequel.
Great video! I always thought NMS needed multicrew. Like you said, NMS can’t have ship interiors like SC but it could have some of the functionality like turrets and access to ship functions. Without changing the size of ships, turrets could be added allowing players to join you in your ship and have independent access to their own weapons, scanner, map, etc.
OR The other way around. 50 things Star citizen can learn from no man's sky ! like simplified starmap, simple flying techniques , worlds loaded with life, resources..etc !! Great Video BTW....as always..!! Thank you
Outer Wilds kinda gives a good idea of how to use zero-gravity mechanics (and planetary puzzle mechanics and touching story in general)
I also never shut up about more dungeons. They could be vital for overhauling the story missions and allow for new puzzle and giant/boss fight mechanics. And they'd give more value to places of interest & encounters.
And while I do want a chance of secondary polar biomes, as well as exotic & old NMS terrain...
...I also really like your suggestions on making a vertical variety and quieter spots for plant types.
Most of these things would require a good re-work of code and a galaxy reboot. The last one, NEXT, essentially changed some of the art style of the game, so I believe to make landscapes as gorgeous as those they need to change it again, not entirely, but the current style of No Man's Sky is way more focused in the Alien Storybook/Comicbooks design, where it feels like someone is paiting that, so there's a feel of creativity in NMS, Start Citizen feels more realistic, like a Final Fantasy XV map for example. I don't think they need to abandon the NMS design, but to make landscapes that feel less like a fairy tail painting, they need to change the artistic style to make a few stuff more realistic.
Frankly, I doubt they would do that. But I agree, the way NMS creates terrain feels random, there's barely an open flat space anymore, and most of the designs are foreign to us. At this point, I don't think Hello Games want to make a REstart of the Galaxy again, even if I'm ok with one.
I'd be happy with another reset, but I know plenty of people would hate it. And I agree that gas giants and updated biomes would require a rework of code, I actually think space walking, planetary dungeons, and starship specialization could be supported in the current version of the game. Sentinel Pillars and Settlements demonstrated the game's ability to add new POIs without a reset. Starship stats and inventory have been changed independently of their visuals multiple times over the years. The tricky one would be space walking, but swimming controls could be used as a base. They would need to code in a bunch of interactions with existing space objects, plus add a "call ship" button for space, but I don't think it would be as dramatic of a rework as one might expect. Of course, I could be 100% wrong, since I don't have the source code in front of me. lol
9:24 I think Squids should be able to land on water.
NMS still does have some dead planets which are pretty common. Though there really should be more barren planets. I agree with your premise that there should be more empty worlds.
2:58 It'd also be very interesting if players could salvage crates in space. Like if they occasionally spawned in full of goodies, but you have to exit your ship and float around..
I genuinely feel like Starfield, at least from what I've seen on early footage, has taken the best of ideas of NMS, I hope some of the things you have mentioned will be in that game as well. When it comes to EVAs and Space Salvage, Hardspace Shipbreaker has one of the best examples of salvaging gameplay.
I think a small interior for some of the ships would be awesome and would not be so hard to create for example a few metre corridor opening outside door and could be a specialized slot for some other equipment. Some of the ships in no mans sky are big enough to have these kind of upgrades. Of cource fighters and other ships with little space cant have interior so it would add more difference for the ships how you want
Really, the ships just need a small design change to look like they have hatch doors and entry ladders. Make every ship, landing pad (not entry points since you just need a change of FOV/POV) and make the half to double the size. Then add some details to interiors.
Even the hauler is not big enough for that. Hauler hulk is about half the width of a corridor. Even the small shop inside a hollowed out hauler in the outlaw station isn't really inside, it sticks out both sides. Ships would need to be rescaled at least 3x for even a small interior which would add much game play.
I would also like there to actually visibly see your equipment in no man’s sky like analysis visor and your multi tool by your side and things like that just to add to realism
Love the gas giants, dungeons, and spacewalk suggestions.
Would like to see more alien races especially non bipedal. But I’ll take anyone. They don’t have to be playable or to gain rep with. Just species to encounter and fight.
Regarding point 1, there are still some worlds out there that are next to desolate. My home base is on such a world, a monochrome world where there is nothing but vast canyons of rocks and dark crystal formations very sparsely populated by only 2 kinds of robotic wildlife. Finding such worlds is rare, but they do exist still.
In addition to space walk, low gravity came to mind. Walking on the frigate platforms feels the same as space stations and planets and it doesn't feel natural to be walking like that in space
Haulers should have the ability to double-stack items like the storage containers and freighter inventory can.
I think number 1 and 2 would make a HUGE difference in the game experience, making it feel more immersive and less repetitive. You definetively nailed this list of features.
Improved Geology is something I wish the work too, but I think it's more difficult for the team.
Having played both a lot now.. star citizen is so complicated i had to grind to get into it. No man’s sky was great from the top.
Great video as always. I love the thumbnail, probably one of your best imho!
Thanks! I really struggled to come up with something. Took me like two hours to land on this one. lolol I'm glad you like it!
If they added gas giants I’d want them to have a way to collect gas from the planet, maybe some type of orbital base or use our Freighters to do it. I don’t want gas giants to be just a pretty thing to look at.
I agree! Though if we can only get them as pretty things to look at, I wouldn't be too upset. 😉 Having crazy gravity that makes them difficult to navigate around would be cool too.
OMFG Yes! Dungeons on planets please!!
Another idea is sentient ships could leave your freighter for a bit and explore, or even defend you if your freighter is in a system.
We need city planets, per lore they exist, there simply not in the game at minimum we need colossal dead cities, we also need traversable ships much like SC but not as elaborate for the sake of landing on landing platforms, similar to the cargo ship on pirate stations, that would do or maybe like the one from Outer Wilds. As for Star Citizen that game actually needs alien animal life on at least some of there worlds, and the Oceans should be traversable. Epic video nonetheless! :)
Imo, they'd do a lot better if every planet had TWO biome tags, not one, at random.
Dead- 1/2 each per each tag
Scorched, Frozen, Toxic, Irradiated- 1/9 chance each
Lush- 1/18 chance (also would not have hot storms by default).
Marsh, Volcanic, Barren, Infested etc worlds could be sub-variations of the above.
A planet would be a mix of it's tags- lush/scorched could be a burning jungle, frozen/toxic could be a noxious muskeg, irradiated/dead could be a blasted wasteland. The flora, fauna, weather, colours, and minerals would be selected randomly from each tag.
The most common worlds would be Dead/Dead, then Dead/(S/F/T/I), then mixed elements, the elemental and Lush, with true Lush/Lush Paradise planets being very rare.
It'd increase both vertical (amount of life on each planet) and horizontal (differences between each planet) variation, without ever needing to add new assets.
I'd like to see the inverse arguments too! (5 things SS could learn from NMS)
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I'm sorry to read that, Brickticks. Sounds like she lived a long, happy life! I hope you find peace soon.
The Haulers with the glowing balls. I wished Freighters had globally as well
How about... we could claim these underground robotic facilities like a base.. and we could build in them ? that would be perfect for me personally, i often build underground.
I'd like to see planets with multiple environments like that seen on planet Earth. If not all of them, then at least the paradise planets.
I agree with most of these points, space walks would be awesome and barren places would be nice.
But i don't see the point in complicating the starship, sure when you're late in the game and have everything you want, I could see the desire for specialized ships, but a lot of people try this game out on game pass and give up when they have a hard time fighting the environment to find the elements they need to get their space Honda off their first planet.
So while starship specialities would be cool, I think it would deter new players.
idk about you, but I find dead planets with low gravity quite often. Some anomalous planets are devoid of life, often not having a simple animal(or having that single animal extinct).
But we do need more massive-landscapes, like larger deserts and stuff, not a cactus every meter of the way.
Most memorable moment so far was sprinting through tall red grassy hills and field while being chased by sentinels after stealing gravito balls.
I'm very down with your ideas on the spaceships! We can collect them, give us reasons to! Also, the spacewalk idea is cool, but I think it should be limited. I fell off a freighter and died with no grave when I didn't know that could happen, and I couldn't get back up to a place to get back into the freighter. If we could do short spacewalks I probably could have.
You mentioned about walking outside of frigates to repair but we've been able to do that since the day they added frigates. Js I'm not being rude I swear.
No mans sky has always been kind of console focused and I expect Star citizen to be as well, maybe they could learn more from Elite dangerous.
I think that you could say the same for the other way around. Having to wait 10 minutes just to fly to a single location sucks when you could just pulse your way there in 10 secconds in no mans sky. Ship combat is also annoyingly complex in star citizen when in no mans sky it is easy to learn, and difficult to master.
SC does a lot of things other games don't, simply because of how much work they are to implement.
That's one reason I love SC so much, it operates under completely different logic than other games.
Yeah, the amount of money they can throw at development is insane. I may not agree with all of their funding methods, but I do respect the technology they've developed.
don t know what you think about it but "multi crew" or "use of turret to defend your carrier" ? in my mind i think as both as doing the same stuff, just one beeing solo. could be a event / mission where you have to defend your fleet or some npc one against wave of fighters. it would be something wayyyy more oldstyle still, like flying the B 17 in secret of the luftwarffe ( sorry if i butcher the game name), you can just swtich position with any turret around the plane / ship , obviously that would be remot controled turret.
From the mentioned Elite:Dangerous I miss in NMS having planet with different gravitation. Is in E:D I like how it changes the travel on planet - on low gravity one player can fly above ground with using of jetpack and land more safely. On normal gravity planet player has to be careful with jetpack. And high gravity planets - there even just landing is challenge itself.
In fact, in No man's sky I enjoyed already the low gravity of the dead planets. But unfortunetaly, there is usually no reason to go there, aside of collecting alien eggs.
Would love if each planet had its own gravitational pull. Moons should have a lower pull and super planets should make travel on foot a challenge.
What custom difficulty showed us is that the game can be heavily customized, so we could get the default arcade mode and a simulation mode that feels more real. With different gravity and atmosphere density to planet rotation and such.
I really wish combat in NMS was more fun.
Major problem with NMS engine is that it MUST work on Nin10do Switch also, so your forced to abide by the stats of the switch compared to the other systems. The Switch device was a BAD move for this game. you won't be seeing Star Citizen or Starfield on a switch...
This was the biggest mistake HelloGames have ever done
There are mods that make the PC version so much more than the standard, but with the amount of updates this games gets, these mods go out of version fast.
So other than graphics/engine limitations they now have SIZE to worry about also due to limitations of switch hardware.
the starship section of the video was full of great ideas im surprised you arent on the team at hello games
You're too kind! I'm sure HG have no shortage of great ideas, it's probably just a matter of picking which ideas to allocate resources to. Thanks for watching!
This is literally everything I wanted no mans sky to have. If they ever do this then I am playing no mans sky non stop for ages.
The only thing that keeps me playing Star Citizen is the flight model and the starships. Otherwise it's gonna be No Man's Sky if I want to build something.
We need huge space cities that would be beautiful
Gas giants would work great with the gas collectors that are available on freighters.
I've never understood the desire for spacewalking and still don't. Gas Giants would be awesome and I have wondered why they are not in the game for years but with out a complete rework for the crafting system any rare resources added would be a complete waste. The other suggestions all sound useful for their own points. I have never played or seen game play of Star Citizen but some thing I would like I already pointed towards is a revamp of the crafting system at the moment it is little more than another way to make money. Food was a nice add but it really doesn't do any thing if you never use it either. I just feel like there is so much potential in things you could *make* and *use* . Self defense Turrets that you could set up to secure your base from sentinel, Alien, and Pirate attacks. Upgrades that could use better and better materials or better things we can use that use things already in the game like the Stasis Device.
Yes yes yes on the empty landscapes! Now it's like playing on one armed bandit and always getting your coin back, the game would feel much stronger if life was rare.
STarcitizen could learn from NMS: terrain modification, underwater gameplay, animals, base bbuilding, procedural caves
About No Man’s Sky I love your idea of planetary Dungeons,… we need to be able to visit the World of Glass in the story as well as dungeons accessible via missions. We also need considerably Less waterworlds until they fix the VR and crashing issues.
Honestly, I think some gaps in the world is required. Spacing out fauna and flora makes the game much more wonderful, and allows discovery of lifeforms to be much more special
Furthermore, as a veteran, I remember when the land had large loops and curved bridges and smooth tower mountains. Those really gave some specialness to the environment. I think mising the new and old landspace of No Man's Sky brings a balance of beauty, finding isolation in the worlds and connection via life and death.
That's just my two cents.
space walk would be fun, but maybe that more a engine problem than anything else?
We seriously need a ability to land on water. I find planets with a massive amount of water all the time and struggle to find a place to land near by something i'm interested in
#5 & #4: 100%. #3: Although I already consider the caves in NMS to be planetary dungeons, it's true that they are not very dangerous or anything.
The occasional clusters of eggs and increasing the chance for underground predators and such would indeed improve the experience. I like that there are caves that are just caves too, but the variety of added danger as a possibility would be great. Especially when there's already loot in caves.
#2: Meh. #1: Eh... I have seen tons of worlds that have low flora and fauna.
I guess the main difference you mentioned is to have regions of the planet carry more or less rather than an even distribution throughout, but that's the same kind of change as adding planetary biomes. They do have fauna that only appear in certain regions already though, and they definitely could expand on that. I'd still like to see planetary biomes and temperature ranges based on angle of rotation, time of year, et cetera.
While adding planetary biomes would be an overhaul, they already have the angle of rotation and such programmed in to affect the time of day differently in different parts of a planet. So it would just take adding a formula based on that to affect the temperature in different regions. That would be a subtle but awesome improvement, and could later be expanded by programming in automatic biome changes based on consistent temperatures.
On the combat front i want to command from my capital ship. I dont like dog fighting, and ive got all these combat ships that seem to barely help when im under attack.
I figured out you can space walk on your frigate fleet that surrounds your frigate, but if you try to go outside the freighter base you quickly lose all your life support and die. Walking around on the frigates surprised me, I was expecting to just clip through it. I would like to see more things in space that can be walked on though, like maybe walk around on an asteroid, but the gravity might be too low for something of that size.
We need X class Multi-tools and Ships
This is my "wish-list" for NMS, not really Star Citizen related.
1. More planet types.
NMS has quite a bit of planet types, but as someone who explored a lot of them and found pretty much any biome, not many strike any interest for me. Maybe one that's just crystals? or just glass that's reflective?
2. Space Station interior variety
It'd be a very interesting but decently sized change. Space stations have different appearances on the outside, but nothing really changes. Maybe just three/four which vary depending on the dominant race?
3. Better fauna farming/creature farming
The current animal farming system lacks a lot of interesting features. I would really like to see something like putting your pets into an animal pen, and harvesting products.
That's just my little ramble :) NMS is very large, and I know it's probably hard to code so much for such a big game, but I really want another refresher. And happy early easter/valentines day.
All points are quite smart ideas. Good video! The idea of different spaceships is one of my favorites. In my opinion, they are like the planets: One is enough, if you visited one, you have seen them all. Of course, it's not exactly like that, but it's pretty close. And why not introduce a medium class of ships, something we use for a special mission? In that case we can have something like in Star citizen. A spaceship that would have several rooms and a hangar for one of the ships we have, and the mission would determine which ship to take, without the option to change it during the mission, which would make sense for there to be differences between them. Also on another great topic: I would like to land on different planets. It pretty much all are the same, that killed my desire to search for planets in the game. They are all the same. And I thought, there are more types of planets at first. I would like to go to one that is like Mars; another which is like a titan covered with heavy water or a gas giant, and some with great atmosphere full with life. Why not a brown dwarf that, if it lures you into its atmosphere, can crush you... Don’t get me wrong I get that this sound like is not an easy task. But trust me it will make the game unbelievably beautiful and explorable. In the end this is what we want, right?
I think a good next step for Hello Games would be a more sim oriented version of NMS.
Maybe not fully sim like FS 2020 or DCS, but more realistic than the arcadey cartoony game of the current No Mans Sky.
Space the planets out more and make travel take longer. Make the ships bigger and let you walk around in them. (with friends) Maybe add some multicrew features like turrets or engineering stations. Go with a more realistic color pallet and bigger settlements.
They've already got a very good basis to build on and going a bit more sim oriented would allow them more access to the markets currently occupied by Elite and Star Citizen.
i'd like for star citizen to have a 3rd person view as well, something about walking on a vast unknown planet while seeing your character just hits different.
i can definitely agree with gas giants and empty planets. part of me wants to find a physical copy of nms on ps4 so i can remove all updates so i could see dead planets for myself.
I do miss the dead planets with water. It was so cool to be exploring an empty landscape and then to come across a lake filled with life.
maybe this is the Milsim player in me, but I'd like to see more shooter mechanics added to No Man's Sky to make the combat a bit more engaging. I think being able to fight humanoid enemies would be really cool. to follow up with the planetary dungeons point, wouldn't it be awesome if you found a Vy'keen pirate outpost and had to fight through a group of equals with shields, health, conventional firearms and jetpacks, just like you. i think being able to fight pirates outside of gameplay and maybe even developing pirate factions with different motivations and goals (one pirate faction per species?) would really enhance the combat side of No Man's Sky.
I agree, I came to nms because I can't afford a machine to run star citizen and its awesome but there are too many things on planets, I want a blank canvas for building on.
I'm in the same boat as far as not being able to afford better hardware. lol
@@Kanaju Mind telling me your PC specs if possible?
@@trinityx3o522 Sure. Let me see. My laptop is pretty old. CPU is Intel Core i7-8550U, 8th Gen. GPU is NVIDIA GeForce 940MX, the integrated GPU is Intel UHD Graphics 620. 16gb of RAM at 2400 MHz, so maybe DDR4? And of course an SSD.
Huh. I suppose my PC sort of meets minimum specs, but I don't have 83 gb of free space. Ever. I'm constantly syncing stuff to the cloud just to stay above 45gb free. So I couldn't install SC even if I wanted to. 🙃
I think for ship interiors they could always create a new class of ships they don’t have to be big or too small. I mean it would be nice to be able to walk into your ship and sit down or see a small cargo bay, or living quarters
I think a really important thing would be the possibility to find pals in thevnexus to play with. Why not add a waiting roon especially for people who wants to join you...spitted in vr and flat users and avlittle flag over thevheat which shows which country you from. And another thing...thevnature sounds. Water should sound like a ozean when it is one, and rivers and falls would round up thevbeauty of this game
I definitely agree with these points. No Man's Sky is pretty cool, but there's always improvements and inspiration to use to help the game become even better.
Also, Star Citizen should have smooth transition into planets, like No Man's Sky.
Huh? Star Citizen has had seamless transitions from space to planet and has had them since December 2016 🤷🏾♂️
I wish star citizen learns happy consumer practices from NMS
Multiplayer needs a dedicated servers so streamline the lags from different persons and make the multiplayer more stable. Relying on a peer-to-peer connection will always be bad, because a person with bad computer and internet will always lag, and if it happens to be the host, almost nothing works in the game properly. Half the packages are lost, some base parts are not streamed because of that.
With dedicated servers for the game will be much easier to stream content between players, make proper parties (and hopefully guilds). So much potential here.,,.
You know the rings of a planet actually have more asteroids in them (kind of like real life)
Not sure if anyone else has really noticed but you‘ve nailed the thumbnail! Good job. 👍
The main thing i find samey about planets is i feel like the parts pool for plants, minerals, animals are too small. I prefer being an explorer and have noticed very heavily the repeating use of the same models on different planets. I agree more barren worlds that look like low-atmo planet landscapes is a great idea, but simply expanding the polls of parts things can spawn from would add a lot of new variety too.
I would also add that nms should try to take the flight model from star citizens ships or elite dangerous. Also to add an ads system for multitools
One thing nms has that sc has?
A finished product
I absolutely agree the game could benefit from more variety in distribution of the assets on planets, every rock seems to be the same distance to the next rock type vibe. Also, make HOT 🔥 planets somewhat fun to explore, there’s legit like 1 tree for every lava planet teehee
I would like bounties to be tracked in space and on a planet. There’s a mission already like this for your armorer. You have hunt and pirate and track him down on planet. I would like a few variations of this mission to play with.
VR would be a good change to SC.
More variation between solar systems, maybe something like guilds and corporations to add a sense of hierarchy to the game, a crime system
i dont like the class system on like exosuit/tool/ships especially ships and focus more on upgrades. like example my freighter has so many free spaces for upgrades (i know its lacking right now for that) *agree with more specialized tech*
or have more a skill gain for the ship class the longer you use it the more you unlock, something just doesnt feel right to me about the ship class thing
If i am honest by comparison star citizen should learn stuff from no man's sky. Like the fact that they often break a lot with each update and spend so much time fixing it that they barely have time to get stuff the fandom wants since they only added ships that don't have any function yet in the game that also have elements brought into the game but aren't fixed at all like the elevators in ships like the redeemer where the player since that ship was out still has phisics problems.
Another thing sc should learn from nms is ship controlling knowing leaving the port is so much complicated and there is no tutorial to speak off.
And let's not forget the 30.000 player limit in a server wich still hasn't really been expanded upon or making a bit smoother experience instead of just crashing when that limit has been reached.
5 things Star Citizen can learn from NMS:
How to make a game fun
How to fix a failed launch
Base building
How to create simple systems that keep the player engaged
How to fix bugs
I think ship interiors would still be nice to have. They don’t have to be to the scale of SC. Even if it’s just walking into the hanger and to the cockpit
Very interesting ideas!
everyone like and share let's lead this up to the developers