Just wow! Andy prays we keep her oiled well, just beautiful design by Mr. Loretto. Damn fine video explaining in detail the windway cutting machines functioning. Just too cool.
I would love to learn how to make recorders, I heard there are short courses, but that's not going to turn me into an expert maker and I don't like to do things by halves!
Thanks a lot from a fellow recorder maker with another self constructed windway machine! Same basic principle but doesnt make it conical. One question, how do you make sure after reinserting the headjoint that you didnt rotate it even slightly compared to its original position?
What seems peculiar to me is that your machine scrapes the bore forward meanwhile all devices I saw before made it backwards towards the entrance of the windway. Although - there seems no significant difference as you cut your windway BEFORE you cut the window. I made a few recorders but I made window and labium first and then scraped the underlabium and the windway. In this case scraping backwards allows not to damage labium. But - very much depends on the kind of tonewood you use. Your machine is impressive, thanks for sharing:).
My initial thought when I got my first machine from Alec Loretto, was thati wanted to be able to adjust the windway by hand. As you will know if your have made recorders, there is always a good and a bad direction for scraping grain, and if I chose the side of the head joint that gave me easy scraping coming in from the top, then I could easily adjust with hand scrapers later
I made a recorder a few years ago. It played badly and the wind way was the hardest part... I used files and scrapers. It was much harder than I thought it would be. Thank you for showing this.
Seems hard to make a recorder. Also the wood needs to be seasoned right? I was wanting to obtain an ebony moeck recorder and I probably should have bought one years ago as now they are very hard to come by. In saying g that I would like someone to build me a recorder soprano which a432 resonance. My rosewood moeck soprano is a429. The ebony is a harder wood so I wanted to see the difference been the harder wood may be used for fast passages as the rosewood will be more mellow. Indeed the tenor recorder you played has a beautiful sound. I would like a tenor without any levers. I also own an alto recorder which does have a very mellow sound also made from rosewood and it's a moeck. My sopranino recorder is a mollenhour. Sorry incorrect spelling. I'm sure you will e familiar with this make. I could get up and have a look. Nope no information. The moeck indeed is a rosewood 429 rottenburg. Freidrick von huene. Jean hyacinth Joseph Brussels 1672 1765 that's what it says on the label. Flautist Dolce. Indeed it is my favourite. Also the alto I quite like also.
There were simple lathes that worked with pedals, ropes and belts (obviously they did not have the speed of the current ones) And the rest of the tasks were done by hand. With this type of simple machines one can reproduce the same process 100 times and obtain the same results. With hand tools - a short file was used for that job - it all depended on the hands of the artisan. That's why today we know Rottenburg, Bressan, Denner, Stanesby, Hotteterre, etc (the same happens with Stradivarius, Amati, Rugeri or Guarneri on violins) They became recognized for achieving a high level of consistency (much less than any current production process, by the way).
Just wow! Andy prays we keep her oiled well, just beautiful design by Mr. Loretto. Damn fine video explaining in detail the windway cutting machines functioning. Just too cool.
I would love to learn how to make recorders, I heard there are short courses, but that's not going to turn me into an expert maker and I don't like to do things by halves!
Thanks a lot from a fellow recorder maker with another self constructed windway machine! Same basic principle but doesnt make it conical. One question, how do you make sure after reinserting the headjoint that you didnt rotate it even slightly compared to its original position?
I believe it indexes into the sharp points on the clamping mechanism
thanks a lot Tim!
What seems peculiar to me is that your machine scrapes the bore forward meanwhile all devices I saw before made it backwards towards the entrance of the windway. Although - there seems no significant difference as you cut your windway BEFORE you cut the window. I made a few recorders but I made window and labium first and then scraped the underlabium and the windway. In this case scraping backwards allows not to damage labium. But - very much depends on the kind of tonewood you use.
Your machine is impressive, thanks for sharing:).
My initial thought when I got my first machine from Alec Loretto, was thati wanted to be able to adjust the windway by hand. As you will know if your have made recorders, there is always a good and a bad direction for scraping grain, and if I chose the side of the head joint that gave me easy scraping coming in from the top, then I could easily adjust with hand scrapers later
Thank you!
Thank you
I made a recorder a few years ago. It played badly and the wind way was the hardest part... I used files and scrapers.
It was much harder than I thought it would be.
Thank you for showing this.
Hello, do you sell these machines? Thanks!
Yes, we do. Tim
Olá Tim, como posso entrar em contato com você?
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Seems hard to make a recorder. Also the wood needs to be seasoned right?
I was wanting to obtain an ebony moeck recorder and I probably should have bought one years ago as now they are very hard to come by. In saying g that I would like someone to build me a recorder soprano which a432 resonance. My rosewood moeck soprano is a429. The ebony is a harder wood so I wanted to see the difference been the harder wood may be used for fast passages as the rosewood will be more mellow.
Indeed the tenor recorder you played has a beautiful sound. I would like a tenor without any levers.
I also own an alto recorder which does have a very mellow sound also made from rosewood and it's a moeck.
My sopranino recorder is a mollenhour. Sorry incorrect spelling. I'm sure you will e familiar with this make. I could get up and have a look. Nope no information. The moeck indeed is a rosewood 429 rottenburg. Freidrick von huene. Jean hyacinth Joseph Brussels 1672 1765 that's what it says on the label.
Flautist Dolce.
Indeed it is my favourite. Also the alto I quite like also.
Hello! Happy New Year! How much does it cost to order a tool from you? Tenor or alto. And maybe this, and that.
The machine makes all sizes from sopranino to tenor, and bigger with some imagination. Price is 2500 euro plus carriage. Tim
How were recorders made before these machines were invented?
People just used their hands.
There were simple lathes that worked with pedals, ropes and belts (obviously they did not have the speed of the current ones) And the rest of the tasks were done by hand. With this type of simple machines one can reproduce the same process 100 times and obtain the same results. With hand tools - a short file was used for that job - it all depended on the hands of the artisan. That's why today we know Rottenburg, Bressan, Denner, Stanesby, Hotteterre, etc
(the same happens with Stradivarius, Amati, Rugeri or Guarneri on violins) They became recognized for achieving a high level of consistency (much less than any current production process, by the way).