Every Dynasties Most UNDERRATED Player

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  • My list of the most underrated/under-appreciated player from each NBA dynasty.
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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Who is an underrated player from a championship team?

    • @WangHungLo
      @WangHungLo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Considering the Miami Heat have three Championships and Dwyane Wade has all three of those Championships

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PLEASE A VIDEO ON DREAM TEAM 2 (94 FIBA TEAM). PLEASE JONNY PLEASE.

    • @tlxxlt4745
      @tlxxlt4745 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shaun Livingston

    • @rickb9327
      @rickb9327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AC Green on the 80s Lakers

    • @bezllama3325
      @bezllama3325 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Horace Grant should be the Bulls mention hes the reason they couldnt win in 95

  • @Madvillainy48
    @Madvillainy48 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    I would put Shaun Livingston on here before Iggy. I think a FMVP is enough recognition.

    • @ObsydyanInkTV
      @ObsydyanInkTV ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You said it, so I don’t have to.

    • @d3adyoutubeaccount
      @d3adyoutubeaccount ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m putting Iggy, people hate him just bc he won it

    • @king-ghost1027
      @king-ghost1027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I fw iggy

    • @maximillianschauer1439
      @maximillianschauer1439 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I agree iggy wasn't underrated tbh but Livingston was truly

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve heard Livingston could have had more of a career with no injuries.

  • @chocamocha4541
    @chocamocha4541 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Bruce Bowen was very underrated for the spurs, He was a defensive maniac

    • @loganmattoon5284
      @loganmattoon5284 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Indeed. 2nd in dpoy 4 years in a row I believe

    • @ianosaurus27
      @ianosaurus27 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Bruce Bowen is a very dirty player though

    • @HomoErectus311
      @HomoErectus311 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yup. He was Lebron’s parole 👮‍♂️ officer in the 2007 Finals and held him to 35% FG, 14.8% mid range shooting , 20% 3pt and made him average almost as many turnovers as assists that series.

    • @TheAisenz0rz
      @TheAisenz0rz ปีที่แล้ว

      A dirty maniac.

    • @king-ghost1027
      @king-ghost1027 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bruce was dirty af

  • @bossman632
    @bossman632 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I know he was apart of only the 2015 Warriors championship run but I think Andrew Bogut should be on here. Great screen-setter, great rim protector, and most importantly a great passing big man, especially in that system. Him going down in the 2016 Finals was in my opinion the biggest reason why the Cavaliers were able to come back from that 3-1 deficit.
    If not him, then Shaun Livingston. People recognize him as a great mid range shooter, but don’t talk enough about how solid his defense was for Golden State.

    • @august6281
      @august6281 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      agree, when they first made noise in the post season, it was when they got Bogut.
      i remember they hated him but for me, he was the best fit C.
      Defense, hustle, lob threat, no need to hvee the ball. Fit perfectly into the GSW heavy movement offense.

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They’ve been looking for a replacement for bogut production for nearly a decade now.

    • @bossman632
      @bossman632 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheIcemanthomas
      Looney does a really good job replicating what Bogut did for the Warriors during their early dynasty stage. And Bjelica to a lesser extent served pretty well too in their 2022 title run

    • @jiby911
      @jiby911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's definitely underrated, and was a key piece to that team. But nah I can't forgive him for all the illegal screens he would set, and get away with blatantly.

    • @jacobdonikowski2452
      @jacobdonikowski2452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bogut wasn’t making ANY impact in the 16 finals and they were better with him off the court

  • @sideshowbobsaget8876
    @sideshowbobsaget8876 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    BJ Armstrong. He was the best PG of the Bulls dynasty. Extremely clutch and efficient.

    • @Tcheera
      @Tcheera ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was going to add BJ to the list. I think Ron Harper was the better defender than BJ, but omg BJ was not bad on D and he was SO efficient -- he was a problem both from 2 and 3 -- his 3 point shooting especially when everyone was gassed in the 93 season of the first 3-peat and he was also the main guy who played all 82 games. He doesn't get nearly enough credit for why suddenly it was lethal to not cover the other players on the floor. In fact he was far more dangerous than Pip and Grant out in the 3 point range back then. Paxson was great too and got a ton of cred because he has that one highlight shot that MJ fed him, but I think BJ had SO many in that last season of the 3peat when Paxson was out for a lot of it -- so Paxson gets a lot of the credit BJ doesn't get, even though BJ was there for nearly a quarter of the games that Pax missed. He also hit 50/40/90 in the playoffs... not bad for a nobody on the team, amirite?
      I mean I think that the Bulls should get TWO dynasty picks -- and I'm fine with Ron Harper being on the list for the 2nd 3-peat, but they won two separate strings of 3 games in that decade and they really were two different rosters. So I think for the first one it's BJ and the second it's Ron. And if you're going to go by who is the MOST underrated I think it's Ron personally... not because I'm comparing the two over who is better. But for real, I think sadly aside from old-heads and nerds that if you ask people who were on that roster they're more likely to remember Kukoc than Harper for sure.

  • @HiThere-ju3wg
    @HiThere-ju3wg ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Day 11 of asking for a video on who would be your top basketball team of all time. 15 players, 3 players per position. It's not just about talent, but also chemistry. To make it more interesting, you can also pick which year of that player you'd decide on. The ultimate dream team.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Top comment atm. You might just get your wish….

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonnyarnett PLEASE A VIDEO ON DREAM TEAM 2 (94 FIBA TEAM). PLEASE JONNY PLEASE.

    • @HiThere-ju3wg
      @HiThere-ju3wg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonnyarnett :)

    • @august6281
      @august6281 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is hard. You said Chemistry.
      We have no way of seeing if Barkley and KD and whatnot will have chemistry on the court.😅 We will never know.
      Unlike Draymond, everyone managed to see and were surprised they work well in TNT.

    • @albertkirtlandjr6735
      @albertkirtlandjr6735 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please do this video!

  • @Bluecmu
    @Bluecmu ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Glen Rice is probably the most underrated player on the 2000 Lakers team. He was definitely a beast in that NBA finals.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Fun fact: In Charlotte he actually finished top five in an MVP vote once.

    • @jespacey
      @jespacey ปีที่แล้ว

      he didn't play long enough to be considered for this video

    • @OakTownBizz-zm8rx
      @OakTownBizz-zm8rx ปีที่แล้ว

      Rice was saucy

  • @tw69hands2
    @tw69hands2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Mark Aguirre of the Detroit Pistons. He was the sixth man, replacing Adrian Dantley. He went from being one of the lead leaders in scoring to being basically a 3 and D player on both the back-to-back Piston teams. Very underrated.

    • @LincolnDog
      @LincolnDog ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And they won in 87!

    • @rqbxrtt
      @rqbxrtt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LincolnDogpretty much

  • @poonking3628
    @poonking3628 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Dennis Johnson is so underrated man, so good defensively, was amazing with Seattle, and consistent as hell with Boston. I never hear him come up as one of the best guards in league history but he really was terrific.

    • @mr.kwamid-86_43
      @mr.kwamid-86_43 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EVIL PATRIK!

    • @thatguy-tl8yu
      @thatguy-tl8yu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The passing was downright mystical when DJ, Bird, and Walton were on the court together

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatguy-tl8yu I still remember the off-the-glass pass from DJ at the 3pt line to Bird in the post.

  • @1badMucker
    @1badMucker ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Another interesting statistic on the Bulls' dynasty is they had three all-time top 25 steals leaders. Jordan (4), Pippen (7), and Harper (25). Imagine having three all-time top 25 players in any statistical category on a single team. If it was points you'd have Kobe Bryant (4), Wilt Chamberlain (7), and James Harden (25). Just trying to put that statistic into context of how insane it was.
    Harper is most definitely underrated.

    • @thankyoujodi
      @thankyoujodi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes to everything man

    • @seven3oh
      @seven3oh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Harper before he blew his knee out was basically mj lite...

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That Bulls dynasty would've had three former DPOY winners as well if Pippen didn't get snubbed.

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, Harden isn't retired yet. He'll inevitably go further up the career total rankings. Ewing is currently 24th in points.

  • @CiabanItReal
    @CiabanItReal ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Michael Cooper is a very good pick for the Showtime lakers.
    HOWEVER, no one remembers Jamaal Wilkes who won 3 rings with that team, made 2 all-star teams with the Lakers and is a literal Hall of Famer. He has similar career stats to Hall of Famer James Worthy in points, rebounds and assists, but everyone remembers worthy, and no one remembers Wilkes.

    • @lookfeelbehealthy6320
      @lookfeelbehealthy6320 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I remember him greatly, having grown up in LA. And don't forget about Bob McAdoo and Mike McGee.

    • @jonnuanez7183
      @jonnuanez7183 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh I remember Silk Wilkes. I modeled my jumper after him when I was young, that smooth behind-the-shoulders roll that was guaranteed to go in.

    • @mr.kwamid-86_43
      @mr.kwamid-86_43 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jonnuanez7183wet ;^)

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Magic is often quick to remind people that Wilkes scored 37 points (plus 10 rebounds) in the iconic Game 6 of the 1980 Finals.

  • @Mr.Mcloving
    @Mr.Mcloving ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I’m glad Ron Harper getting some highlight

    • @kajuan2g6
      @kajuan2g6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And he was key contributor for the lakers in 2000

    • @Mr.Mcloving
      @Mr.Mcloving ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kajuan2g6 him & glen rice

  • @yulifadida6661
    @yulifadida6661 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Horace grant was very underrated in the bulls 1st three peat

  • @anandbenegal
    @anandbenegal ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "The best ability is availability". I'm stealing that bar for when I'm coaching my music students! Thanks Jonny^

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Please do! I definitely didn't come up with it, but there's a lot of truth to it.

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonnyarnett PLEASE A VIDEO ON DREAM TEAM 2 (94 FIBA TEAM). PLEASE JONNY PLEASE.

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jonnyarnett I think that you mentioned that about another Laker's player -A C Green? He just about always competed.

  • @richardw3347
    @richardw3347 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I thought Shaw was quietly underrated on the Lakers in the 2000s, hit many outside shots along with Fisher. I like that the role players are getting some love as they are the silent engines that get teams over the top in most cases.
    Bobby Jackson on the Kings was also a real good player, he was a shooting/scoring machine that gave the Lakers lots of trouble. I thought I`d mention him because he never gets any attention for how good he played, generally speaking. Kings are possibly a quiet dynasty that never was.

    • @88949597
      @88949597 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can't argue Shaw, but really Rick Fox is virtually forgotten by everyone but Lakers fans
      His wing defense wasn't elite, but he did his job well on that end of the floor, and maybe not as much or Iconic big shots as Fish or Horry, but Rick was a Extremely important key to that entire Shaq/Kobe/Phil era

    • @richardw3347
      @richardw3347 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@88949597 agree. every time he went into the game they started to do better it seemed.

  • @devosegal
    @devosegal ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ron Harper was so instrumental to the bull 6s that Phil Jackson went out of his way to bring a Harper on to the Lakers

  • @williamkoscielniak7871
    @williamkoscielniak7871 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Harper was the man, but what about Horace? Horace Grant was the rebounding/defensive monster that the Bulls needed at the PF position during their 1st three peat. People seem to forget that Rodman played the exact same position as Grant and won the exact same amount of titles, no more and no less, than Grant did with the Bulls.

    • @joemamma137
      @joemamma137 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Switching from Grant to Rodman for the second three-peat was definitely an even exchange, not an upgrade.
      Grant is criminally underrated.

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joemamma137 Defensively, maybe. But it was definitely an upgrade rebound-wise.

    • @joemamma137
      @joemamma137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jp3813 Well yeah of course. That was his absolute specialty. I would even say that Rodman was a better defender. Albeit not by much. But Grant was nowhere near as close to a one demential player as Rodman was. Grant could get you 15 on 55% shooting whenever MJ and Pippen (or Shaq and Penny) needed a third scorer.
      He was a good 3 inches taller (that matters).
      He never got technical’s. He never got ejected. He never kicked cameramen. He never needed to randomly go to Vegas in the middle of the season. He never had to be benched when he was healthy because his coach couldn’t trust him not to do something that would get him suspended. He never engaged in the type of behavior that made his coach and teammates fearful of what he might do next.
      I guarantee you you that almost every GM from the 80s and 90s would, if given the chance, draft Grant over Rodman if they knew what their futures would be.

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joemamma137 Rodman was definitely unpredictable, but his defense alone was multidimensional. He could effectively guard both Magic & Shaq. Plus, his mind games are an underrated asset.

    • @joemamma137
      @joemamma137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jp3813 Oh my God yes! The way he guarded Shaq was insane. None of his negatives were physical, they were all in between his ears. He was the T.O and Randy Moss of the NBA.
      But his mental problems were absolutely not insignificant. One of the reasons why the Bulls acquired him so easily, was because no one else really wanted him. Think about that. Both Shaq and David Robinson called him the worst teammate they ever had. And they weren’t wrong.
      The fact that he contributed nothing on offense was irrelevant compared to what he gave you with defense and rebounding.
      His successful 3 year run with the Bulls has really caused his overall career to be overrated in my opinion.
      He was a straight up locker room cancer. That’s something that isn’t reflected in his numbers. I’m old enough that I actually saw his career. The average Bulls fan was not overjoyed when they signed him. It was more like “Oh crap, I hope this doesn’t backfire”. And to Rodman’s credit, it didn’t.
      But as to my original point. He was not an upgrade from Horace Grant. It was really Toni Kukoč and Steve Kerr that made the 2nd threepeat Bulls better than the 1st.

  • @thebigone6071
    @thebigone6071 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For the Bulls, I’d include John Paxson, Ron Harper, Horace Grant, Luc Longley and Toni Kukoc.

  • @shorteststraw417
    @shorteststraw417 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sam Jones was the prototype for a sharpshooter. The original great no.24. DJ was the glue guy PG for those celtics teams. A beast and a killer. Love the recognition. 🎉

  • @arijordan1392
    @arijordan1392 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wouldve put john paxson for the bulls. He was lights out and had some huge games in the playoffs and finals

  • @camaradiop3731
    @camaradiop3731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:14
    I loved when Dennis Johnson was with Gus Williams and the Seattle Supersonics!!!!
    Red Aeurbach told Dennis Johnson that he (Dennis Johnson) was the missing piece that the Celtics needed.

  • @andrzejzborowski4920
    @andrzejzborowski4920 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ron Harper and Fish have always been players I appreciated. When the Lakers traded Fish, it was obvious they couldn't win another ring without him. Good that they traded him back.

  • @rickytr3y
    @rickytr3y ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is why I love this channel so much. Its extremely informative. Thanks Jonny!

  • @GHOST91141
    @GHOST91141 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know they're not considered a dynasty but those two Houston Rockets championships Sam Casell played a huge part in them

  • @NickPR87
    @NickPR87 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Agree on all except the last two. Bowen because he was indeed a dirty player that constantly looked to undercut players on their jump shots and to make matters worse, tried pleading to the refs like he was the victim.
    Iggy because he was actually named Finals MVP over Curry, who statistically had a better series, so voters understood the impact Andre had on the outcome.

    • @slimypickle19
      @slimypickle19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who would you replace Bowen with though? There literally wasn't anyone else outside the big 3 that was a part of 3 titles. Can't say Kawhi, can't say Robinson, etc.

    • @NickPR87
      @NickPR87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There doesn't HAVE TO be a most underrated player for every dynasty. Sometimes guys are appropriately rated and people bring up names just to do it. This is especially the case with a franchise like the Spurs which has always done a good job at surrounding their main player with 1-2 good-to-great second options and a bunch of complimentary players that know their role.

  • @OrigEntertainmentOfficial
    @OrigEntertainmentOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video. Those Sam Jones numbers are awesome.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For sure. When we think of Celtics dynasty, we rarely think a dude dropping 35-50 points

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonnyarnett PLEASE A VIDEO ON DREAM TEAM 2 (94 FIBA TEAM). PLEASE JONNY PLEASE.

    • @august6281
      @august6281 ปีที่แล้ว

      in Legend, he was presented to be a valuable piece in their dynasty.

  • @HallofHoops6
    @HallofHoops6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ron Harper is a great pick for the Bulls. He is often forgotten especially on the defensive end as Chicago had two of the best perimeter defenders in the game which are Jordan and Pippen.

  • @catherinelynnfraser2001
    @catherinelynnfraser2001 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Cooper has been getting his flowers more recently. That would also be true of DJ as well. He is always credited as the “Late Great DJ” and mentioned as the best player Bird ever played with. Every Celtic remembers him as essential to their success. He did get HOF recognition as well.
    Thank you for sharing your vast basketball knowledge with all of us. You are not getting the recognition you deserve.

  • @Rebel-eq7ul
    @Rebel-eq7ul ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Micheal Cooper, Ron Harper, Bruce Bowen, Derek Fisher, Kevon Looney. Are all valuable underrated players in all the modern dynasties for the back to back teams Sam Cassell and Shane Battier come to mind

  • @eksit101
    @eksit101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Because of coop, it's called ally oop.
    Chick, coop a loop, shortened to ally oop.
    Harper- wasn't a cav that whole time. Actually lead clips to playoffs for the first time in la w/manning.

  • @Nanp90
    @Nanp90 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As someone who grew up a Vince Carter fan i hate Bruce Bowen so much 😂 he was good but too dirty of a player. In my opinion he cost the raptors a playoff spot in the 2004 season, that year mid way through the season the Raptors had a 25-28 record and because Bowen Injured Vince the Raptors went 0-6 the next 6 games and 25-34 became to much of hill to climb for the Raptors. They ended 3 games out of the last playoff spot.
    Also Vince Carter was on pace for his Career high in Points in the Nets game Bowen step under Carter. He had 43 points in 3 quarters and had 10 point lead and because Bowen try to injure Vince and Vince went after Him, Carter got ejected and the Spurs won by 10 and Carter ended with 43.
    So basically Bowen Robbed Vince Carter fans of a playoff spot and probably what was gonna be Vince’s best scoring performance of his career. So yeah Bowen sucks 😂

  • @heinzchristian4517
    @heinzchristian4517 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How can a Finals MVP and death lineup member be undereated

  • @AfricanH3ro
    @AfricanH3ro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's so recent that I don't think most are seeing Iggy as underrated on those squads. Like others have said should have went with Livingston.

  • @TV-wu5py
    @TV-wu5py ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They probably aren't considered a dynasty since they only won 1 title, but the late 70s-early 80s 76ers were consistently in the title hunt that I feel like they are one of the most important teams in league history. So with that said, I think Andrew Toney is insanely underrated. With Dr. J. getting older, Toney became the 6ers primary bucket-getter, particularly in the 83' title season. But since he played with Moses, Dr. J, cheeks, Barkley, etc, and only played 5 good years in the league, everyone forgets about him.

  • @bigceo6333
    @bigceo6333 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    straight up love these videos! you don’t get appreciated enough for your basketball knowledge 💪🏾💪🏾

    • @tyt6877
      @tyt6877 ปีที่แล้ว

      One could say that he's underrated?

  • @yt3
    @yt3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are acc my fav youtuber ur takes are far better than everyone else

  • @TreFKennedy
    @TreFKennedy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dope vid Johnny

  • @217ShowOffBoii
    @217ShowOffBoii ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think a Sam Jones video would be great. Not many people know this but he was clutch, outscored Wilt in a couple of Game 7s, and even scored a game-winner over him.

  • @Hendrix.Robinson
    @Hendrix.Robinson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see a Jonny video, I click play. It’s that simple.

  • @SuperNASCARrocks
    @SuperNASCARrocks ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For the early 2000’s lakers I have to go with Derek Fisher. He was such a sound PG who knew his role which was to get his teammates involved and knock down big shots.

  • @justinr5989
    @justinr5989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Havlicek is also a valid choice for the 60s Celtics, and considering he kept it going in the 70s without a half-dozen of the 60s HOFers… His productivity in the playoffs in the 60s was on par w Sam Jones, though of course Jones was clearly the one they called on in the clutch to get the key bucket. Jones deserves the love, but still Havlicek deserves more credit than he gets for the six(!) 60s championships he got before spearheading two more in the 70s…

  • @alex4833
    @alex4833 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video, Jonny! I had not heard of Mikkelsen before, so it was great to learn about him. I had learned a little about Dennis Johnson and Michael Cooper too, but not too much, so it was great learning more about them. :)
    I agree that Harper is underrated. I also remember how he and Fisher (as you mentioned) also played key roles for the Lakers.
    When you mentioned Bowen, I also remembered something interesting about him that you mentioned in a previous video. To this day, I still wonder how he was such a good 3 point shooter, but also a bad free throw shooter.
    Awesome video, Jonny! Have a great and blessed Sunday 😊

  • @hadiazam7051
    @hadiazam7051 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best NBA TH-camr ❤

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk about all that, but I’m glad you love the channel man 😅👍 Means a lot

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonnyarnett PLEASE A VIDEO ON DREAM TEAM 2 (94 FIBA TEAM). PLEASE JONNY PLEASE.

    • @king-ghost1027
      @king-ghost1027 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@markjackson6431chill out

  • @Otto910
    @Otto910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice that you mentioned Mikkelsen for the 40s/50s Lakers. But from what I've read he was more of a number three for the team and Jim Pollard was the number two in the hierarchy at the time. Although from a numbers perspective it makes sense to go with Mikkelsen on this one.

  • @marykalyva225
    @marykalyva225 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bowen is great but I can't stop mocking and admiring at the same time that he was better from 3 than the free throw line 😅

  • @TheIcemanthomas
    @TheIcemanthomas ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love for you to do a video on the late 40s and 50s lakers. There isn’t much on them because the nba and fans act like anything before 1960 doesn’t exist.

  • @samualcalnan4774
    @samualcalnan4774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an incredibly original topic to cover. Thank you

  • @JD-ny3vz
    @JD-ny3vz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man I used to hate Bruce Bowen so much as a kid 😂

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video JA! And great hall of fame class too!!

  • @jiby911
    @jiby911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nah Jonny is the most underrated nba youtuber. 💯

  • @mathiasweber1073
    @mathiasweber1073 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance you'll make a video about Manute Bol or John Starks?
    I think with all the crazy stories about Manute Bol never playing an NBA game sober, the unknown data about his age, his downfall in life after basketball - The list goes on.
    Or maybe John starks and his wild basketball journey.
    83: Played 2 Varsity games in HS
    84: Taxi squad at 1st college
    85: Expelled, 5 days in jail for robbery
    85: Expelled from 2nd college
    86: 3rd college, bagged groceries at Safeway
    87: 4th college
    88: Undrafted
    88: Signs with Warriors
    90: CBA All-Star
    90: Tries out for Knicks*
    93: All-Defense 2nd Team
    94: All-Star
    95: 1st NBA player w/ 200 3PTS in a season
    97: Sixth Man Award
    * Starks injured himself during a Knicks practice when Patrick Ewing slammed Starks to the ground for trying to dunk on him. Due to NBA rules, the Knicks weren't allowed to cut him while he was injured. He impressed the team during his rehab, they gave him a chance and the rest is history.
    *Just a tip - not a demand) I always look forward to, whatever you come up with in terms of content. :))

  • @lucacolaprico9491
    @lucacolaprico9491 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need more a to z underrated playerssss, and this was an awesome video as usual

  • @berniec8959
    @berniec8959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Byron Scott is also an underrated player from those 80s Laker teams.

  • @jgrey8959
    @jgrey8959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dennis Johnson was clutch, and in a wide variety of ways. He would hit the last second shot sometimes, sure, but more often it was the crucial steal, blocked shot, rebound, free throws, clutch pass, anything. He just seemed to come up with the crucial last second play over and over, and as a Pistons fan I got real damn tired of it lol.
    Larry Bird stole that inbound pass from Isiah, but few people talk about how smart it was for DJ to anticipate, cut to the hoop, and give Larry an option to pass.

  • @saget380
    @saget380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do think Ron Harper is the correct pick, but I like to give credit to Luc Longley whenever I get an opportunity. Sure, he was just a role player, but he was a really solid player and Jordan is on record saying that he was very important to their championships. I’d say he’s like what Boris Diaw was to the Spurs. Nothing special, but you’re gonna get very quality minutes, important defensive utility, and a humble player who will sacrifice for the sake of the team.

  • @lookfeelbehealthy6320
    @lookfeelbehealthy6320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't forget about John Paxson, BJ Armstrong, Steve Kerr, and Craig Hodges of the Bulls.

  • @dylanhowell3431
    @dylanhowell3431 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Video idea - the top 10 players of all times deepest 3 pointer ever/ in the playoffs

  • @facelessandnameless
    @facelessandnameless ปีที่แล้ว +2

    D Fish is one of my all time favorite players 👌

  • @aznpikachu215
    @aznpikachu215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would put in Luc Longley perhaps with the Bulls.

  • @Irfanhill
    @Irfanhill ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to find out about Mikkelsen 1:50 because of Sporcle quizzes. Otherwise, I would indeed never have heard his name before your video!

  • @aapadre
    @aapadre ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One dude said Livingston and when Klay and Curry weren’t super hot Livingston would hit soo many tough midranges to help them stay in the game. Iggy played a great role too so idm either being called most underrated

  • @Noob_Guy2k
    @Noob_Guy2k ปีที่แล้ว

    Vern wasn’t the only dude I forget but their guard was nice too very good vid

  • @AusCardDad
    @AusCardDad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Luc Longley is Way more underrated then Harper.
    In the era of the big man he played an important role and in 97-98 season avg 11 ppg and helped to keep the bulls ticking while pippen was injured.
    Longley was a very good mid range shooter and excellent passer in the triangle offence.
    So let's not do a Last Dance and forgot fellow Aussie BIG MAN.

  • @DOMCOM40
    @DOMCOM40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruce Brown and Christian Braun for my Nuggets this year.

  • @kevinkeshavarz7384
    @kevinkeshavarz7384 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tyson Chandler when he was on the mavericks, he locked down the paint and picked up dirk's defensive slack for that 2011 title run.

  • @Noob_Guy2k
    @Noob_Guy2k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People don’t talk about Rick fox enough imo either for those laker squads

  • @tristanharris8440
    @tristanharris8440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andrew Bogut should be for the Warriors. Iggy won Finals mvp

  • @showtimenick824
    @showtimenick824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would also say Rick Fox qualifies on here for the 3-Peat Lakers.

  • @Michaeljordandagoat
    @Michaeljordandagoat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact the Lakers had 3 different dynasties and the Celtics 2 is mind boggling 🤯

    • @lorddevil863
      @lorddevil863 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not very hard to be a dynasty in the 80s as a Lakers when you just won the championship and get to draft the #1 pick overall in the same year.

    • @Michaeljordandagoat
      @Michaeljordandagoat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorddevil863 yeah that James Worthy pick was extremely important, your Warriors won 4 in 8 years, could add another one this upcoming season

    • @Peakfreud
      @Peakfreud ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Michaeljordandagoat Warriors were unfortunate to get the number two pick in an underwhelming draft.
      Lamelo & Tyrese Haliburton two players at position they have future hall of famers in where the Best of the rest after Anthony Edwards.

    • @joemamma137
      @joemamma137 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could almost say it was 3 and 4. Since you can divide the 2000’s Lakers into 2 dynasty’s.
      And the 70’s Celtics, with Jo Jo White, John Havlicek, and Dave Cowens, won 2 rings without Russell, Bird, or McHale.

  • @ktapreswreckd921v9
    @ktapreswreckd921v9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent 👌 Job Jonny. The late Bryant was great, no question about that. But the Lakers won five championship's with a lot of clutch shots by little Derek Fisher right by Bryant's side.

  • @ernestthomas9090
    @ernestthomas9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mario Chalmers, the Heat needed someone that could guard opposing PGs and as Chalmers improved the team had less trouble against players like CP3.

  • @manotk1254
    @manotk1254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have two problems:
    1.i think Sam Jones gets some respect I would've picked tommy heinson for the 60's celts
    2.ron Harper is a solid pick for the 90's bulls but I think people don't respect Toni kukoc enough he was baiscllay the bulls version Manu ginobili

  • @RIPJimmyA7X
    @RIPJimmyA7X ปีที่แล้ว

    Andre is a well known member of the core, SDot was the real under the radar key piece of those first 3 rings

  • @josh0766
    @josh0766 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually think all the Warriors core guys are properly rated in some way. Iggy got a finals MVP, he’s very much appreciated by the team and media but I do understand you have to put someone down for every team.

  • @dariohamidi
    @dariohamidi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In another video, of the underrated players at different letters, i mentioned Hal Greer, and im mentioning it again for this video if this gets a part 2.

  • @LincolnDog
    @LincolnDog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgot about the Bad Boys! The really did win in 87!

  • @Taj_Rahine
    @Taj_Rahine ปีที่แล้ว

    Horace Grant is extremely underrated. People really don't even talk about the first three-peat. Michael Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs before Horace Grant got there.

  • @travismcnamara8919
    @travismcnamara8919 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cooper is a great selection, but I'd have to include Byron Scott as a tie. And AC Green probably deserves an honorable mention.

    • @romanramirez7847
      @romanramirez7847 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bob McAdoo, Jamaal Wilkes and Mychael Thompson also have arguments as well.

  • @Noob_Guy2k
    @Noob_Guy2k ปีที่แล้ว

    Byron Scott comes to mind too for showtime A.C too

  • @thomashinchliff2173
    @thomashinchliff2173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Michael Jordan was pretty good on those 90s bulls teams

  • @ryanhebertson7457
    @ryanhebertson7457 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a cool video would be best teams that fell short of being a true dynasty. For example, the 90s rockets, or the 80s pistons.

  • @eddiemarinelarena
    @eddiemarinelarena ปีที่แล้ว +1

    D-fish was definitely underrated

  • @AzureSkywalker
    @AzureSkywalker ปีที่แล้ว

    JJ Barea 2011 Mavs, dude was a legitimate X Factor

  • @justinr5989
    @justinr5989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Horace Grant never gets any love either, but he was a great defender and elite finisher, and never complained.

  • @hasadiahjones620
    @hasadiahjones620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember Ron harper and horse Grant played for the 2000 lakers aswell

  • @nii5985
    @nii5985 ปีที่แล้ว

    byrin forbes for the milwaukee bucks chip a few years ago

  • @russellst.martin4255
    @russellst.martin4255 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The year Bowen shot 44.1% from 3 he shot 40.4% from the ft line.

    • @thankyoujodi
      @thankyoujodi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's always weird when 3pt shooters are less accurate from ft

  • @hardwoodthought1213
    @hardwoodthought1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bruce Bowen wasn’t get wide open shots because of great coaching. Pop himself said Bowen would have been unplayable had he not been paired with Duncan who could consistently draw a double for a wide open shot
    The system was that simple because he had the best player alive cresting chances

  • @sidwalker4194
    @sidwalker4194 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great piece of work by. When it comes to B-ball, it's you...& everyone else. Coop is a good choice for my Showtime Lakers for all the reasons you stated. However, I believe Norm Nixon is the most overlooked important Laker in that dynasty. I realize he was only there for the 1st two titles, but his numbers speak for themselves, including sharing top scoring honors with Kareem in the '82 NBA Finals, which was their 2nd title. To this day, Nixon being traded from the Lakers hurt me more than any other trade they ever made. 😢

  • @d.ferris3964
    @d.ferris3964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bowen was definitely a dirty player! I’ll even admit he was valuable and belongs on this list of underrated players from these dynasties (the whole list is spot on). I’m all for a physical game of basketball, would admit I gravitate towards it, but Bowen at times was too dirty and caused so many injuries.

  • @carlosmiyagishima513
    @carlosmiyagishima513 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Bad Boys Pistons and Miami Big 3 deserves an exception as a dynasty. Microwave and Battier for underrated players.

  • @maddie690ify
    @maddie690ify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Defense. Remember when that was a thing!

  • @slanderman3296
    @slanderman3296 ปีที่แล้ว

    First euro player i remember : Detlef. He is underrated

  • @damonsonnier34
    @damonsonnier34 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1980s Lakers: Michael Cooper.
    1980s Celtics: Dennis Johnson.
    1990s Bulls: Toni Kukoc.
    2000s Lakers: Derek Fisher.

    • @loganmattoon5284
      @loganmattoon5284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's still so crazy to me that there're were two dynasties in the same decade

    • @anubis4032
      @anubis4032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2010s Draymond and iggy

    • @damonsonnier34
      @damonsonnier34 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loganmattoon5284 I forgot to mention about the 2000s Spurs.

    • @lorddevil863
      @lorddevil863 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loganmattoon5284 Weaker competitions, everyone that knew how to ball were on those two teams.

    • @romanramirez7847
      @romanramirez7847 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorddevil863The 80’s Sixers beg to differ. They cooked the Celtics multiple times in the 80’s and swept the Lakers in the Finals.

  • @johndia5
    @johndia5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s criminal not to mention Steve Kerr on the spurs in this video

  • @coreythompsonTheOneandOnly
    @coreythompsonTheOneandOnly ปีที่แล้ว

    You should have done an explanation for underated along with (your version) of what a dynasty is

  • @gavincampbell7488
    @gavincampbell7488 ปีที่แล้ว

    DeMar DeRozan man… miss him in Toronto

  • @Noob_Guy2k
    @Noob_Guy2k ปีที่แล้ว

    DJ was awesome he is never mentioned for some reason

  • @showtimenick824
    @showtimenick824 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes Sam Jones! Sam Jones to me is definitely a top 5 shooting guard of all-time!

  • @definitelynotaweeb1111
    @definitelynotaweeb1111 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the Iggy appreciation ❤