York Train Show Haul! Eastern Division TCA York Show April 2023
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- The Eastern Division of the TCA puts on the York Train Show twice a year and it is always a big deal!
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I prefer the budget friendly stuff too. A few repairs and some cleaning are ok with me.
Totally. More fun less guilt!
Hi Dave! Thanks for vid.
Thanks for watching!
Nice Haul Dave!
Congratulations on 4k subscribers!
Thank you very much!!
Thanks for Sharing!!!
Thanks for watching!
Pretty good haul. The baby Ruth cars are Awsum
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Thanks!
Thanks for stopping out to see us at Henning's Trains. We appreciate seeing our friends out at the shows.
Always good to see you and the guys.
Thank You 😊 Dave good sharing
Thanks for watching!
Looks like you found some great stuff. And it was nice to meet you and the rest of the guys, I forgot to get a picture of all of us together. We need to do that next time. Thanks for sharing
Great meeting you as well. There is always next time. 👍
Need? Not about need. All about want with trains. If in doubt, there is no doubt. Get it.
Yes!
I was at York for the first time on Friday. Spent a little more than I wanted, but came home with exactly what I was looking for!!
Fantastic! As long as you are happy with what you went home with 👍
Oh, and congrats on 4k subs.
Thank you very much!
Awesome deal on that F3!!!!!
Yessir!
Nice haul and video Dave. I love my 2243s also. Can't wait to see how your project comes out!
Thanks!
That's crazy you bought the jt bacon sent , That was one that I like also .
mmm bacon 🥓 drool
Looks like you had a great show.
York was a fun show as I came away with only spending 32 dollars.
Thanks for sharing.
I did. You only spent $32?! That sure beats me! Nice work.
Yes and 18 was for October's pass. Lol
Looking forward to seeing those 8 Baby Ruth cars running together👍Nice haul !
Thanks! I’ll have to clean the new ones up and get them all going on the upper loop.
Great video Dave. I definitely have to make it to York, it looks like a lot of fun.
You really do. At least once.
Man looks like that F3 runs well! And 50 bucks! Well done Dave have a great Lionel day!
Thanks!!
Sorry I missed you at York
Yeah I can’t believe I didn’t see you. Nick Sean and I were wanting around all day Friday. Hope you enjoyed the show.
TROPICANA!!!
Yessir!
nice
Thanks
Nice haul, Dave. Can't leave behind a good price on a Babie Ruth box car. Can't go wrong, either. You seem have found some comfortable prices on what you picked up. Something your conscience can live with. The Santa Fe A unit is in pretty rough shape on the outside, but runs well. Hope you find the motor in good shape to complete the lash-up. It's always great hear good news from York.
Thanks! The motor in the f3 seems good, the e unit is another story though. I may have fixed it, still need to verify.
I need that 6454 Baby Ruth LOL
I’m hoping to find one one day for cheap. Oh and a 4454 from the electronic set. That would be cool.
@@dagryffynhobby And you know you need those Pa F3 s LOL
Dave, I was at the show Friday too! First time at York, by the way. Sorry I missed you but I can't say I wasn't looking. I DID run into Shawn Conahey, in fact he was the first guy I saw when I walked in the Orange Hall when it opened at 9:00! Made my day! I THINK I saw Nick and Sean at a distance but if it was them I didn't have the energy to sprint across the parking lot that late in the day. I had a fun time chatting with the Hennings crew when I finally found them! The seemed to be stuck in the back like an afterthought!
I got some good stuff too and what I considered some very good prices, an MTH Union Pacific "Forty-Niner" engine (Proto-Sound) for $250, a Lionel Reading Pacific from 1989 (looks like it was never run) for $135, a Williams Reading SIX car passenger set for $150, AND a pre-war tinplate Baby Ruth car for my pre-war tinplate 259e freight set. This one's the cool Baby Ruth car with the sliced candy bar on it. You could slice candy bars in those days, they were as big as bricks!
That's the only boxcar I got. If I'd seen some Atlas steam era "Hams-Bacon-Lard" billboard boxcars I'd have grabbed them too, but didn't see any I didn't have already.
I'll send you some pictures if you like.
Will I go to York again? Probably not this year but certainly next year, I certainly enjoyed myself!
Best of luck waking up that Santa Fe unit but you probably don't need it!
Sorry I missed you! If you saw Sean and Nick on Friday then I most likely wasn’t far away. I actually didn’t see Shawn that day. It’s amazing how you can be there all day and not bump into someone.
Sounds like you had a good time and a good haul. Fantastic! Hope you get to go back.
@@dagryffynhobby Rest assured if I saw you with Nick and Sean I'd have made the sprint, even if you guys had to do CPR on me when I got to you! 🤣
Great haul Dave! I’m interested in F3 wiring you spoke about.
I’ve got plans! I’m trying to get the f3 back to normal first, get it running well, then I’ll move on to more.
Great video Dave. This was my first time at York. Wow it sure can be overwhelming there is just so much to see. Sorry I did not see you there on Friday. I will most likely be back in October if my schedule works out. You got a great bunch of trains for some good prices.
It definately can be overwhelming but this is the system I use at shows, especially the big ones. While I appreciate all the exhibitors who display I try to move quickly. What I mean by this is if an exhibitor has wares I'm not interested in or can't use in any way I may just give it a few seconds look and move on. If I DO see something I'm interested in THEN I'll take the time. Basically I figure there's just so many hours the show is open so I have to hustle. Do I miss anything? I don't think so. I guess I've got what Napoleon called the "Coup d'oile," or the "Quick eye.)
Thanks! It’s overwhelming to me every time I go. And I know I miss plenty, but like Wayne said, breeze past the stuff you have no interest in. I had no real desire to see everything this time so I took a more relaxed approach and had a great day.
I missed a bunch of people on Friday, guess it’s just too big!
I was looking for you at York, but missed you. Like you the first purchase is tuff. Nice health. 😅
Sorry we missed each other - it’s a tough place to connect sometimes due to the size.
I think I should buy something within the first ten minutes of any show just to get the ball rolling 😆
One of my favorite candy bars!!!
Never had one!
@@dagryffynhobby LOL LOL LOL....try one they are good!!!
@@joegennari395 I would but I really like being able to breathe.
@@dagryffynhobby No peanuts!!! oops!!
Baby Ruth, the candy of toothless America.
Haha! What a slogan!
My father's always called Baby Ruth bars Babe Ruth bars. Yeah, they weren't fooling him!
Great haul Dave. It was nice to meet you there. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Great to meet you as well.
It was great seeing you guys at the show last Friday. I get why everybody says that it’s not as huge like the fall shows are, but me and my dad still had a lot of fun. Hope we can get to do it again at the October show.
It's not huge like the fall shows? Man, it was huge enough for me! Wow! I had to MOVE!
To me it seemed bigger than last April for sure, but I feel like this April was pretty close. Either way, plenty to see and do!
You bought some cool stuff :)
Thank you! I’m happy.
Nice haul there Dave! Im still working on a few of the pieces I picked up at the show and waiting to hear back from that vendor that sold me a mismatched locomotive and tender PS1 vs PS2. Everything else is working out well so all in all a great show especially getting to chat with you and Sean and Nick for a few minutes. Lets definitely try to do that again in the Fall.
Hope the seller gets back to you on that tender! Always great chatting, I’m sure I’ll be there in the fall.
Dave,
You did great with your haul! I did not get all the way through the orange hall, so I missed Hennings... 😢
Nice shirt as well! 😊
There was a lot to see and I’m sure I missed a ton of stuff!
Nice trains
Thank you sir!
I enjoy your videos. I’m not into the same aspects of the hobby and it’s great to see what others are doing. I have a suggestion for your layout. You are thinking about a town/village. Do you have enough room to run a Trolley or suoerstreets in front. I have a smaller layout and that’s one thing I wish I had planned to have.
Thanks! Variety and different view points are important for all of us.
I am going to try to squeeze in a trolley line but I’m not sure I can make it work. As large as my ally out is, I didn’t leave a lot of space for a town.
An F3 project is good news, maybe the 2343s will appear aging soon
Not likely! Lol. No really I do need to work on those.
In O scale I look for deals but have not found any. Mostly broken stuff. At the first show I went to, I got replacement parts for my plastville station (green roof). Yes you need to say the roof color since I found out that there are 3 different roof colors. My station I got at Christmas when I was 10. That was a long time ago. Good luck in finding the F3 PPR in Tuscan red (I assume)
Definitely Tuscan. I’ll get a set eventually.
Oh there is always lots of broken stuff. My favorite are small cheap broken parts that people still want good money for! Haha. I didn’t realize those came with different color roofs, but it makes sense.
Lionel X-1004 is a Baby Ruth car but it normally was in the old Lionel Scout sets with the unique Scout coupler. Some that are for sale have been converted or have both couplers but it is a unique Baby Ruth box car, but often very cheap... There is a white one and red one also with that road name...
Was that the one with the sealed doors? I never really look for that one but I do see them often.
@@dagryffynhobby Yes and a red one has sealed door, one process single plastic mold...
Nice job on the video. We got a positive message. You don’t have to spend big money at the big train show. I enjoyed your haul though.
Thank you. Sometimes spending less is more fun. So I tell myself anyway! Haha.
Amazing haul Dave! Love that Santa Fe F-Unit! Runs ok! Does look like it needs maintenance but I am sure that’s no problem for ya!
It was running, but then stopped. Looks like someone tried to repair the e-unit and did a poor job. I’ll need to repair it but then it should be good!
I tried like heck to shop like Dave. I spent the 1st half of Friday in the Silver Hall and filled a tote bag, about 15 cars, for 100 bucks. Wish I would have seen you.
15 cars for 100 sounds like some great deals to me! Nice work!
You can convert your post war steamers to liquid cheap. My experience is that the conversion produces more smoke and for less than 5 bucks
Interestingly, I've been using JT's Mega-Steam in my post-wars with unmodified smoke units and have never had a problem, it works perfectly in them. And oh yeah, the JT's folks are a fun bunch!
Maybe one day I’ll order a bunch of kits and do the upgrade, until then I just put the drops in and they do ok.
Looks like you got some great items at fantastic prices. I also have the Baby Ruth cars. My orange one has coil couplers, and one of them opens up constantly whenever I pass through the diverging route of my turnouts. A real head scratcher. The Mega Steam is is a great product. Unfortunately, none of the hobby stores around here don't appear interested in carrying it or any smoke fluid for that matter. Our local hobby store doesn't carry very much to support model railroading, especially on 0-scale items. I, like you, tend to have only the big rugged trains in my collection and no whimpy, finicky ones. I have a lot of steam engines I run with pill and / or resistor type elements that I replace myself. I use unsented mineral oil found at Walmart in the overcounter pharmaceutical isle. It's sold as a laxative. I paid $3.97 for a 16 Oz bottle. I buy bottles of candel scents at Hobby Lobby used to make scented candles. Mineral oil is parrifin oil and has a low 120-degree smoke point.. It's what manufacturers use to make their smoke fluids. Even Robert Grossman mentions this in his instructions. Some guys use Johnsons baby oil as it's just mineral oil with fragrance, but I don't use it because I don't know what the fragrance is made of. There or those who are very critical about using anything other than a store bought manufacturered smoke fluid, and I assume they are either ignorant or likely don't do their own repair/replacement on their engines and they are just a resistors or have some of the newer more finicky engines. However, I have not found the scents you bought from Mega Steam. I have found that vanilla and cinnamon Swirl make for good scents. A little goes a long way. 5 or 6 drops in a Mega Steam sized dropper bottle of unsented mineral oil. I have been using this for years and have never burned out an element. Pill or otherwise.
For the car that the coupler opens on, it may have something to do with the pickup shoe, is it a flying shoe type? Sometimes they can be triggered unintentionally
I never thought of making my own scents or fluid, but that’s a pretty good budget project
@dagryffyn hobby Thanks, Dave. Yes, it has the sliding shoe as all coil couplers do. I have a lot of other cars with coil couplers that go through the same turn-out, but this is the only car that is affected. Dave, regarding the smoke fluid. l hope you didn't take this the wrong way. I really like the Mega Steam scents, but since I can't find this locally, it can get pretty expensive buying it online with shipping costs running nearly as much as the fluid itself. I have had great success with this fluid formula, and it makes a lot. I do run a lot of steam engines and go through it fairly quickly. Hobby Lobby has quite a few candel scents to choose from. I have used pine, cedar, peppermint, vanilla, and cinnamon Swirl. With great results. Works with resistor and pill type elements. It has a little thicker viscosity than manufactured fluids but will thin down, adding the scents. You can add as much of the scented oil to your liking. It's not as cheap. 4 to 5 bucks a bottle. I think the rule of thumb is 10 to 1. I have never made it that strong. The most I have done is 10 drops of scented oil to a 2 Oz Mega Steam bottle of mineral oil. I have added a few drops of 90 proof rubbing alcohol to cut it, and it helps keep the smoke unit cleaner. Add this at your own risk as it is flammable. I would not advise using lamp oil, also found at Wal-Mart, I have used this, and it is flammable. It did smoke as long as you don't get the smokeless type, and I never had a fire using it. However, the oder is very strong and smells like a refinery in the train room no matter which scent is used. It's really cheap. A gallon jug is 7 bucks. The main ingredient is petroleum hydrocarbons, which is also an ingredient listed on a bottle of Lionel smoke fluid.
I believe, but do not know for certain, that after World War II Lionel was thinking about S scale. The 9 inch cars were a baby step in that direction. I have always thought they are beautiful, well detailed cars. I love them and pick them up whenever I can.
In everything I've read about Lionel I've never seen a mention of S Gauge being considered. Pre-war of course they had Standard, O, and OO products but only O made the cut after the war. Dropping OO was probably a mistake but it seemed like a good idea at the time.
American Flyer of course did the reverse, they dropped O Gauge after WW2 and concentrated on S.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Thanks for the information. I ask, however, how do you square nine inch cars (basically S gauge) on O gauge track and trucks if S gauge was not being considered? As I noted the cars are beautiful, well detailed and well built. That length also was in gondolas, flat cars and tank cars. From what I remember of Lionel OO scale, the nine inch cars were bigger, but a forty foot car would be 10 inches, close to true O scale, and after the nine inch cars were dropped the later 6464 box cars and 6462 gondolas and flat cars were.closer to true O scale.
@@trainman5603 Nine inch cars? Easy answer, they cost less to build and so could be sold for less but still maintain a good profit margin. A pure business decision. Keep in mind Lionel's ubiquitous 2-6-4 engines (think the 2018 and it's variants) were closer to S gauge than proper O but were a lot less expensive and attractive to first-time buyers or buyers on a budget. That's all there was to it.
And in fact, those 2-6-4's are SO common you can still pick one up cheap! And let me tell you, they RUN!
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Interesting observation about costs and profit. I have no basis for disagreeing except to make this point: the smaller cars and locomotives are less expensive and thus increase, as you point out, profit. If true then why on that why on the heels of doing that did Lionel slowly drop the nine inch cars while still making the 2025's, 2035's, 2037's 675's, 2026's, 2018' s, 2020's, 671's, 682's, produce near O scale F3's, Trainmasters, EP5's and in 1964 reintroduce the true 0 scale 773? One explanation could be that changing dies for the metal die cast engines was expensive and adding near O scale diesels could accomplish the O scale effort with less expense after a decision was made not to compete with American Flyer in the S scale market.
You may disagree, and I respect that, but to me it looks like Lionel in the late 40's was, forgive the expression, toying with the idea of S gauge. For a lot of reasons JLC nay have decided to let Flyer have the S gauge msrket and Lionel would do O gsuge.
If true history shows JLC was correct. S gauge has never achieved the popularity of either HO or O gauge. As we model railroaders age being able to see details in O gauge is a decided advantage over HO or N, while S is OK.
Still the nine inch cars are, in my view, a neat anomaly in our O gauge history.
@@trainman5603 You make some very good points and I can't disagree with any of them.
Of course it's all speculation and guesswork on our part. Those involved with the decision making at Lionel are long gone now and apparantly left little behind that can inform us of their decision making processes. It does seem that for years after the war Lionel seemed to be torn between the ideas of "Are we toy makers or are we model makers?" Not that any of this really matters but it's fun to speculate.
On a personal note I never was interested in HO although I did mess around with N Gauge for a while. It was fun and fascinating but I came back to what I call the "Thundering majesty of O!" N Gauge trains don't shake the house to it's foundations that O Gauge trains in "full cry" do!
I have never fully understood why Lionel did not use the unpowered A and B units, put on "MU" cables (for running off of a single E unit) and have the ability to run them separately or together.
I wonder if it’s one of those things that was discussed but never got off the drawing board. Maybe a victim of cost cutting
@@dagryffynhobby now that would be interesting
And this is why I did not go to York. I would have come home with way too many trains!!
Understandable. I bring limited cash and pretend no one takes credit cards. I also try to remember the disapproving look I would get from my dad when ever I spent money when I was a kid. Usually on stereo equipment. 😆
@@dagryffynhobby If I still had half the money I spent on stereo equipment growing up, I would be retired.