2105 The Thunderstorm Generator - Malcolm Bendall's Marvelous Magical Machine
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Hey Rob! I'm a long time member and subscriber with my personal account. First of all, I have huge respect for you as a scientist and inventor. You inspired me to take a course in standard electrical engineering and in part to start my TH-cam channel.
I also have relied on your skeptical open mind as a gate keeper for ideas in this field many times.
But you've got a number of things either incorrect or just out of context in the video. I'm going to try and do a respectful response video in a few weeks based on the historical evidence in plasma physics for what is going on and the current trials from independents. I'll also explain my understanding of the differences with the GEET. There are similarities but they are showing different results and have some key differences. If I can swing it, I'll encourage Malcolm to send you a prototype to review yourself in the near future. The first 25 preproduction experimental units are going out to research teams ATM but I expect there will be more soon. Cheers!
Thank you
Now this would be interesting to get the machine in front of Robert! Nice way to collaborate!
You've shown your hand as not independent by saying "If I can swing it, I'll encourage Malcolm to send you a prototype to review yourself in the near future".
IT WORKS!
Plasmoid unification Theory connected with sacred numbers that are everywhere in our religions & the pyramid microwave device! ALL right before our EYES DELIBERATELY HIDDEN! we CAN'T
CONTINUE! IM UNSUBSCRIBING FROM UR PROPAGANDA channel
@@ESS284what? Shown your hand? It's an open to all collaborative to develop the technology for all to benefit. They talk together and so he could ask malcom.
I made a geek generator for my B&S 3.5hp motor.... it ran on 50/50 water and gasoline after being started on 100% gasoline and warmed up..... the geek generator works, I ran it on water and oil with gasoline mixed in for good measure ( the gas makes it easier to start)
I am not really sure that the device splits the water molecules or not or just uses the water as steam in the cylinder.... i suspect the latter.... but it did run on a 50/50 mixture of gas and water.... where it normally would not it took the exhaust heated cylinder to work...
it was a extremely interesting experiment but I never did anything with the set up as it took alot of fiddling to get it to run initially.
I also tried a water injection system in my Ford Pinto.... it went through about 1 gallon of water per tank full of gas..... it made the engine run better and the car felt more responsive. I ran it for about 6~8 months till the big mason jar froze and broke the jar.... then I took it off.
i did not notice any gas milage improvement at all, in fact I think it went down a small amount
but when I took the head off everything inside looked like it had been sandblasted clean no carbon anywhere even the pistons were shiny ! ..... so it is a great thing to do before a overhaul !
My uncle made one in school during the early 80's, it was so efficient the motor would freeze up and stop working. He says random people will still ask him about it 40 years later, it's still laying around his shop to this day.
Anyone else become aware of this device from the Danny Jones Podcast with Randal Carlson?
in my research on this the message I got was Carlson should run away from this as he is damaging his rep - but I am quoting blogs I read
@ThinkingandTinkering You're not wrong there. He said himself he doesn't know much about it and needs a few months for research.
I know magnitudes less than anyone about the subject, but I like to think I would research beforehand 🤔
Let's hope he focuses on his sacred geometry, through which he inspired many.
Much like, unbeknownst to you, you have sparked a strong flame within me to pick up electronics again. Stayed up all night 2 weeks ago binge watching all your videos I deemed most relevant to me at this time haha. (I even joined brilliant to learn)
Cheers Rob 🍻
@@ThinkingandTinkeringthe whole thing stinks. I love a conspiracy or I wouldn't be sniffing around this ARC rubbish, but me has a feeling Bendall and some of his associates might be "intentionally" leading people astray, as a career, as it were.
I did.
I am reminded of cold fusion. Need I say more?
Ohhhh i get it. Guy builds/does something that could positively change our lives,n he ends up prosecuted & branded crazy 🤯
Reminds you of anything or snuone today 🤔
Take a thermodynamics class. It will teach you to spot many frauds such as this device.
@@akulkis I'm not really sure the Laws of Thermodynamics debunk this...
Year 1900, people use their brains when science-ing. Today, my never worked in their life professor gave me a book with all the answers.
@@akulkis Laws are Laws until they are not. Not the first time. And won't be the last.
Well Bendall may well be a crank, but here is the interesting thing. He has managed to convince a small substation in London to trial this device on a 300 kW Perkins Generator, as we speak..The claim of substantially reduced carbon emissions must be sufficiently evident to be let loose on such an expensive piece equipment, right?
I'm glad somebody is pointing this out. If this is the Geet it's likely the largest application of it.
yep
True and the TSG has been making the exhaust completely harmless. Magic is real.
@@pauloneill9880 Hopefully, but my gut instinct is it will be brushed under the carpet somehow. There are two possibilities as to why we wont see it go mainstream anytime soon, 1)it is and existential threat to centralised energy production or 2) it doesn't work..The only way to out such technology, should it exist, is to share and replicate with an easy to follow construction method, including precise dimensions and parts list on a channel such as this..
The Indian navy is also now testing it.
My god! This has taken me back 35 years. I remember trying out water injection on my Kawasaki Z650. Using hypodermic needles inserted into each inlet collar. The thing sucked in nearly a pint of water in about 30 seconds. I was lucky I didn't hydro-lock a cylinder or two. Left the idea for another day and never bothered going back to it.
that's a lot of water!
Flow rate is too high. Try a butterfly needle then work your way up.
The water never enters the engine with this device, there are no moving parts, it simply uses cold air entering one end and warm air entering the other to generate plasmoids in the water as the exhaust goes through it and the plasmoids convert the gases into oxygen
I think there are a lot of people who had an idea or a feeling there was something there, and even in fruition, it is a simple form that is counterintuitive to our current models. Deprogramming is hard lol
"THATS GOING TO ITCH WHEN IT DRIES!"😕
My understanding is that Malcom was smeared by Shell oil over a prospecting dispute.
Also, the darn thing is transmuting elements, and that has been tested and proven.
It baffles me how this channel has went out of its way to make so many interesting little things that in some cases have potential and in others not so much. Yet when it comes to a device that seems to have heavy backing and has been tested and proven to work by actual scientists and engineers that this man discredits it outright without attempting it himself. I find it a bit unusual and out of character for someone who appears to care. Anyway its a much better practice (not to mention more HONEST) to first attempt something before disproving it, otherwise its just more empty words and disinformation.
@@OulChap I don't blame him for not believing it. Nobody believes me either.
the channel did none of those things he spoke with respect and gave us layman a thing to ponder, unlike you we have common sense. always question never settle@@OulChap
@@Toxic-nx6im this video was obviously created without the intent to back up what was said (empty words and disinformation). Saying he spoke with respect doesn't change the fact that the video exists, which in itself is fairly disrespectful. If this video had shown at a minimum an attempt to at least try the same or even a half assed attempt to debunk said system then the layman would be left with a thing or two to ponder. Then, and only then would it have been worth while watching. As per your previous response, I think your group needs to re-visit your definition of common sense as you are not getting that one right either. The only good point you raised in your highlighted reply was to "always question never settle", I have to admit it gave me a bit of a laugh as that's exactly what I've done regarding this video, yet you failed to even realise the same waffle you are dishing out. I suspect your comment was written as a blind reaction to my previous one without actually giving it any thought, either way my point still stands. I've been as fair with my comments as I possibly can be so you can either accept it for what it is or don't, either way I'll not lose any sleep over it.
Why don't you build one and test it? I would have thought that would be right up your alley. It's all open source apparently.
He doesn’t need to! Malcom Bendall already did it and proved to the world it works…. 😂 right… ?
@@lmnow there have been countless prototypes built. The Independent science group MFMP has verified that it works as stated. Scoff at it at your own peril.
People need to stop thinking these content creators are any more than just content creators.
Because it'd be proven wrong you can't have him doing that now can you improving to the world that we've been denied free energy for hundreds of years so the elites can use this for themselves and our peril this is a classic example of gatekeeping 0:01
@@EGO_OUTAtadistance70over unity unless it's fusion, is a no go
@cjdelphi YES! THATS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING
In 2015 I built the Geet device. Works great as long as the load is about 70% or more. A loaded generator @ 80% power constantly is a fantastic candidate for the application. It will burn almost anything as long as the reactor rod is tuned to the fuel. Oil needs a longer reactor rod while hydrogen needs a much shorter one. The reactor rod must be trained... When I was racing, we employed a process to hydrogenate the engine blocks. It took about a month to hydrogenate an aluminum block and about 4 months to hydrogenate an Iron block. Bottom line... ionic treatment with racing has been around for centuries. Most haven't a clue as to how or why. The bottom, bottom line is creating a battery in plain sight to prime nitrogen to release its force. Been there done that got that T shirt. That and a dollar will buy a cup of coffee. There is no free energy! It takes time and preparation for comparison to produce a very short show! Not meant for the long haul. Long haul in my book is 1,000,000 miles/1,609,344 Km while the impressive short haul is 500 miles. A demonstration of 5,000 miles is a drop in the bucket however will miss the mark of the long haul. Currently I'm focused on graphene & selenium/sulfur bipolar batteries. We are on the leading edge of EV batteries that charge very quickly however the cycle times keeps diminishing. It's hard work to keep a golf cart running for years compared to keeping a diesel, petrol, propane or natural gas-powered vehicles running. I talked to my Amazon driver today who is averaging 160 stops a day. He loves his new EV delivery truck and reports that he is able to make a 12-hour run. I'll keep you posted on what he says next year.
as i said water injection into ICE works just fine - it doesn't need anything else
Have you tried a JoeCell yet, asking for a friend
The main difference between the GEET is that the GEET processes the fuel and takes in the exhaust gases. The Thunderstorm generator does nothing to the fuel, only processes the air, no exhaust gasses are mixed in. Whether either produces plasmoids at such low pressure and under the stated conditions is really the question. Interestingly, if ultrasonic frequencies are present, then you can create plasmoids (put Al foil in an ultrasonic bath, run it for 60 seconds, and look at the foil under a microscope, and you will see effects on the foil, that quite frankly, are very odd. The foil is subjected to extreme cavitation and, some experimenters are looking at the foil under SEM only to find elements that were not present in the foil nor the water.
All that needs to happen for dismissal is for the skeptics to prove it is producing co2 and not nitrogen and oxygen like they claim. Seems like an easy test
Al foil degrades in water due to it reacting to it, producing Co2. The ultrasonic frequency is probably just speeding up that process like a catalyst through very rapid agitation.
@@maximosh Yes, it will react will dissolved O2, but observation of the reactant products should be purely Al2O3, not Carbon, Calcium, Silicon, Zn, Fe, Mg, Cl from DI water. The controls of both the water w/no Al sheet in one bath run, and the Al sheet from same run (w/o no ultrasound) doesn't indicate the contaminants in the metal itself. Vortical patterns abound and these elements only appear at the vortex points (one up and one down - always in pairs), nowhere else. High magnification indicates structures form inside the vortices seem to create lots of carbon (on outies - counter clockwise) and calcium (on innies - clockwise). Using other metal foils do similar things but the ratios are different. Perhaps the carbon is potentially from dissolved CO2, but only shows up in structures ("ejecta" from the foil itself) on the SEM - nowhere else (you should see it all over the place). The underlying patterns don't appear to line up with what you would expect an ultrasonic bath standing waves, either. I believe it's more than simple dissociation and O2+Al reaction. It's really interesting! I need to reproduce it myself and get my hands on an ICP and confirm the SEM data.
cheers mate
@@maximosh unlike say steel, alu has no fatigue limit... Meaning everytime it is exposed to a stress cycle it gets a tiny bit weaker. ultrasonic waves flex parts. Often with effects due to standing waves within material. (will also bounce around inside material. In ways that are dependent on thickness/roughness of surface etc)
Might be tiny reductions per cycle but it won't take long before material has experied huge number of cycles.
You just forgot to explain the 21% oxygen coming out of the final exhaust on the latest thunderstorm generator. Oh and the pipes do get cold and hot, with as much as 400f temperature difference on both ends. Infact the internal stainless pipe gets so hot that it becomes ferromagnetic.
21% is surprisingly close to ambient air concentration.. don’t you think 😂?
Almost as if.. he might be measuring… ambient air?
Did you watch his recent road show videos where he failed… again.. to make it work in public?
Such a bloody nuisance after all these years that his amazing inventions keep getting stuck by misfortune when they have the opportunity to be verified.
@@lmnow hundreds of people have publicly gotten it working? Explain that
"internal stainless pipe" do you mean the "intake" pipe?
That would make sense with this heater exchanger, as the exhaust gases from the engine are roughly 800F.
I hope more visible testing is completed.
For what it's worth. I recall that the Geet engine had the exhaust tube magnetized in one direction then the intake tube inside it is magnetized the other direction and finally the rod inside it is opposing the intake magnetically. He had different rods that would work better for different fuels. Like I said, for what it's worth. Great job again, Rob. Thanks for breaking it down. Cheers mate!
Malcom has said that he built base on the research of others.
And he said the dimension are critical and base on the the Golden ratio.
It very interesting.
Thanks
Has Malcolm ever lied, or said anything to mislead investors in the past? 😂
The whole apparent transmuting elements thing was actually a huge eyebrow raiser for myself.
I had several livestreams from several semi related people pop up in my feed, as well as people directly involved.
Made mention that it looked like a fancy heat exchanger, and actually raised the whole transmuting stuff as a concern which funny enough was never addressed.
"So uh, where is the carbon going buddies?"
Lol,the carbon ass you ask the buddies ,is being systematicly seperated and auctioned of into new atomic elements to the highest bidder buddy!, and the quarks mewons and newons from sed processes are instigating furthete frequency atomic de and reconstruction of thete own knumbnutsss!! Sorry not sorry!
And sulphur and other things. Crude oil has a lot of stuff in it that doesn't burn. And the advertisement assumes co2 isn't a pollutant....
CO2 Is notna pollutant
well if you believe it mate - you believe it - not an issue for me
dont really believe it (probably should have said cocked a brow), I'm really skeptical of a lot of their claims @@ThinkingandTinkering
Particularly their claim about magically making half the stuff going into the engine disappear into thin air.
they've put emissions measuring device on a industrial generator with this device lately and they're getting results that are unexplainable and i think the plasma explanation is more of a best guess of what's happening .once hot the exhaust emissions measurements shows oxygen goes up to 15-20% and co2 goes down to around 4 % or lower and others that i can't remember .
importantly these experiments are repeatable and the numbers don't lie. i don't blame you if you're skeptical i was too .
Thanks for the video, I always enjoy your stuff.
I do admire your view as a sceptic, the analytical path must be taken. I’m sure you are aware of Victor Schaubergers work on vortex pathways through fluid mediums. I personally believe that his work has validity…. But to each his own.
Cheers!
I do know Victor and his work mate and it fascinates me too
I was thinking it would be a video about Kelvin Thunderstorm (water dropper). Which is an extremely simple device with no moving parts that generates electricity. The models on the internet are huge and take up a lot of space, but in reality the Kelvin Thunderstorm can be miniaturized because it seems that the amount of energy generated is not linked to the size of the device but rather the amount of water that passes through it. Miniaturizing them and connecting them in series would be a fascinating video/experiment!
(note, if you are going to try this, do it with extreme caution, the amount of energy generated by this device can easily be lethal)
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Very interesting.
me too!
Given the number of technical and scientific people who have watched the thunderstorm generator perform, and have monitored the process and it's emissions closely, I don't see how it could have been faked. It's been replicated many times over. Something is there that warrants further investigation.
This is open source. Don’t go talking about money, motivating Malcolm. He made it open source. You are pissing me off. Are you really so quick to bash on this technology given the possibilities if it actually works. Think about it. If it actually works, we will be living in a new world. Do you really wanna act like a fact checker and squelch this before it gets a chance to anchor. Do you really want to cast aspersions about financial aspirations of the creator when he’s made it open source. Your skepticism feels like it’s born of intellectual rigidity and general ignorance.
@bruceames9224 Don't worry about saving the world with this contraption. Radioactivity from the huge releases from Fukushima and a lesser extent chernobyl, and the million tons dumped into the oceans during bomb development, cannot be denied. Humanity has cut its own throat, and the millions of species trapped here in our thin biosphere are dying rapidly from our insane playing with technologies that we cannot control, let alone understand. Radioactive substances cannot be made stable, and the laws of physics cannot be denied. It looks like electricity supplied to the water is causing the hydrolysis and the hydrogen is being recombined with oxygen somehow torn away from the carbon dioxide. Given that we cannot pick up atoms of plutonium that were blasted out of the Fukushima reactors and scattered world wide, we will never be able to stop the slow destruction of our circle of life. The plankton are gone missing from the pacific, killed by the fallout! This is why CO2 levels are rising, there is no mechanism for the co2 to be broken down! And the radioactive materials are still splitting atoms, releasing huge energies as waste heat, for the next million years or more! So thinking that this silly gismo can save us is beyond sane. The amount of radioactive decay heat is enough just in the fuel pools alone to cook the planet, and the radioactivity only increases and spreads, causing normal matter to decay and become radioactive, the reason they spoke of it as the ATOMIC PLAGUE in the 1950's, when it was discovered! So we have cooked our own goose, and the artificial intelligence can see no farther than we can! And certainly if we can't explain it, than it does not exist.
If it's open source and works then why haven't every car company picked up the so called technology
@@fatTony666 Thats a question for the oil companies there antoneknee !!!
@@fatTony666 Because the largest Oil Company controls the majority of the stock holdings as well as appoints only their own people to be in charge of those auto companies so as to maintain the status quo of all locomotion will be fueled by the OIL INDUSTRY and NO outside sources will be allowed to interfere with that MONOPOLY ! That is how John D. Rockefeller became the KING of OIL and it's been that way ever since!
@@fatTony666 thats so naive my friend. Why are there wars? why did wall st get a bail out? do you think we live on planet sunshine and roses? be for real.
Brother Robby! I salute you for your service to the truth. Sir. I knew Paul Pantone before he passed away. I put a geet reactor on a moped I built... it ran on vegetable oil vapors... supposedly the reaction can be tuned to make water into hydrogen with correct reaction rod length and proper surface area of reaction rods to engine displacement volume...
Also as an exotic reptile breeder I can also say he's wrong about the uv bulb, it doesn't produce any heat. It increases bone and scale density and development
It has nothing to do with heat. Simply ask chat gpt if you can ionize air with a uv light. Yes or no?
@chrisprysok7634 that isn't how that works 🙄. If something hasn't been discovered officially you won't find it
@chrisprysok7634 also be said it has to do with heat not me
@chrisprysok7634 I did look it up, natural light does ionize air so id say that since they mimic natural light it makes sense
So what really needs to be tested is it better than water injection. Test the engine without any add-ons as a control then add the water injection and then add the plasmid generator. To really find out if the gains are from the water injection or Malcolm's generator.
One Can point to similarities between the two technologies, however, I’m wondering if you have actually reviewed the presentation points on the current offering. It’s not the bubbler or the tubes that are the key here. It is the sacred geometry, the highly sophisticated, geometry, and its application, through deep understanding of historical principles, scientific principles, and spiritual principles. This one works. Malcolm did his homework!
Thank you Robert! I'm so glad you've given Paul Pantone some recognition for the plasma carburetor.
cheers
I appreciate you breaking this down. It crossed my feed this morning and my head cold was leaving me blank.
Absolutely facinateing ....... !!!!!! I remember in the early to mid 80s a couple of Buddy's fitted a mk3 zephyr motor in to a Thames trader van and were experimenting with a crude water injection system , that is a smaller percentage with petrol ....... I can't remember details other than they did increase mpg ......o I miss the 80s ..... Thankyou for this facinateing journey !!!! 😉😎
lol - glad you enjoyed it mate
Samples from the big thunderstorm generator are being now looked at under an scm, structures they're finding do look odd, Sulfur crystals originating from a one point with a perfectly spherical hollow balls of iron at their termination point, they really might be onto something. I really recommend watching some scm sessions done on these samples by Bob Greener. Structures they're finding definitely don't seem like they're just a result of contaminated fuel
do you have al ink?
Martin flashman memorial project all the research their
That sphere ran on coal for 8 years there was no other fuel
Look up Bob Greenyer at the Martin Fleischman Memorial Project from a few days ago. He has proved Malcolm's thunder storm generator works. This is the dawn of a new era of knowledge for humanity
You started off by giving a very kind summary of how the device is supposed to work and then continued by kindly explaining why it's simply impossible for the device to do what it says on the tin. I really appreciate the way you make science accessible. Thank you.
cheers mate
Thing is, is does work. See strike foundation or @quantumheat Bob Greeneyer.
I would like to know that just because you can explain why it won't work in your imagination. You can use very basic measurement tools to see if it does work and proof in the pudding not in skepticism or optimism.
@@wills2864 Well theres no pudding is there...
@flyingsodwai1382 depends where you look!
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for looking into this and presenting this video I am extremely excited about this Technology.
Glad it was helpful!
Once again I am blown away by your brilliance, well done
wow - thank you mate
There's no brilliance just spin & ignorant
Thank you very much for that input ! I really believed I had heard this “technology” before. Now I know I have and remember Pantone’s explanation from years ago• thank you for bringing a resolution to my quandary. Excellent job in my opinion.
So glad I wasn't the only one to write and you made this video, many thanks.
never mind explaining why it wont work it does work it does work !!!!
I love your videos . Thank you for educating.
wow - thank you
Did this guy completely spin the whole planet or just the part he is standing on in the first :30?
Geet's device and the Thunderstorm generator are not the same thing.
Hit Piece much?
There should be a prize for being the humanity changer hitman video winner.
How is thunderstorm not a geet system? You have eyes and do not see.
“The technology works!” Well, back in the 70s we built fuel vaporizers using engine heat from cooling water or exhaust, even bubbled intake air through gasoline, and got engines to run on fuel vapor. The technology “worked” but the apparent improvements gained were offset by the losses that were not apparent, until you actually looked a little deeper.
As a mechanic of many many years, I can tell you that we used water injection clear back to my '69 Oldsmobile. We hooked it to an off idle vacuum port on the carburetor and it helped. A major problem was carburetor icing and, of course, winter. We are talking about a 455 cubic inch (7.5l) engine which was extremely inefficient.
water injection works
Having personally run water injection on my own engine i can say it definitely helps with detonation at higher compression ratios. There was a small percentage more mileage but nor significant. I kind of figured when i saw this tech that turningwater to steam before it enters the engine would be beneficial as in more efficient. Like all other things I will have to build this contraption to see how it works. Great video thank you for your input.
You are a very capable tinker so why not build one and test it?
They are. and you can...
THANK YOU!!!! KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SIMILAR!!! the geet reactor, just my opinion but it seems like they are digging up devices that work, but still hold back the true gems.
Ahh the Geet device! It was presumptioin that the rod being used in the center rod was using the earths magnetic field and vaccuum to create the ionic charges needed for the device to operate properly... I have looked into this in past but never experimented yet. Funny how inventors are bankrupted, ruined and then called crazy then later their inventions show up in Corporate designs... Keep up great work, be in peace God speed,.
cheers mate
"I have my Ideas, & I'm sure you have yours" served with warm smile
its your line, but its mine now, too !
Bravo RMS.
watched his magicbeanstalk engine video years back. Early internet days nostalgia indeed!
A pleasure to hear you debunk it, context and rationale. spot on.
12:33
lol - good one mate - cheers
I have built a geet this summer and it indeeed is something worth experimenting with i had it running on mostly water or motor oil or a few other things aswell needs some tuning with valves and rod sizes and such to run different fuels . Why not give it a go it is simple enough to put together and you seem plenty capable im not sure about malcoms edition but there seems to be similarities it’s possible he improved pauls device which seems to have quite a bit of people who have had sucsess aswell😊
I also built a few geets and was pleasantly surprised!
@@Xolisaz83 yes see there is something to it not just people making up things Robert should give it a go with the proper tools you could make it bettet than me but i saw effects with hardware store parts
I appreciate your ability to rekindle my desire to learn things.
that is awesome to hear mate - cheers
Much respect Neil. Do what is best for you and your family. Many admire your work and the value and advice you bring to this and other channels. There are other communication channels out there and when you have value - people will find your message! Especially loved your in depth details on the Great Depression Era segments (well worth an award and a valuable legacy to younger kids in the historical content and accuracy). Save the good stuff and your hard work for a medium which treats you right. Thanks for the insight you provided today and hopefully other content providers appreciate it. Cheers sir. You do great work and it is genuine!
The fuel isn’t mixed with the plasmoids until the carburettor/ cylinder. I have made and quenched the 304 stainless steel spheres as well and it works.
Have you looked into the temperature and magnetic anomalies? There is a large setup operating on a natural gas powerplant in GB.
and meanwhile he keeps testing it and making huge progress. It's proven reliable at this point, now they even have a compact one.
UV light, particularly at shorter wavelengths, has enough energy to ionize air molecules directly. This method is often used in devices like UV air purifiers.
Hi rob I did build the geet generator a few years ago and it worked very well and yes there seemed fo be a huge reduction in toxic fumes.The thunderstorm generator principal is very similar and the geet is not the same as water injection .Why not build one on your show .See what happens when you add browns gas and organic hydrocarbon gas with a pinch of ultrasonic water vapor.
still got it?
No I sold it,if you would like to see it i can build another one .@@ThinkingandTinkering
I have an idea how browns gas could maybe improve performance...
In a real petrol engine that's working OK, combustion is a deflagration. That the flame spreads out from spark plug at subsonic speeds. Because such combustion isn't instant, it's less thermodynamically ideal than the *theoretical* otto cycle. Anything that moves combustion towards instant improves the engine's power
Plural spark plugs are one way that has been used by couple of car manufacturers.. If flames have half the distance to burn, combustion takes half the time etc.
Adding gases that burn with a very quick inital flash, that then ignites main fuel of much higher energy might be annother approach.
There is a potential problem with speeding up combustion in an engine. If the combustion goes supersonic. Engine is said to be experiencing detonation. And such tends to destroy engines within a very short time.
I have been awaiting a real explanation of this- thank you!
hope it helped mate
The current model of this device does not "recycle" the exhaust gases (as the GEET does).
This current model of this device actually transfers exhaust heat INTO the intake (preheating not cooling).
I just watched a video on this yesterday and I was going to ask you about it! Haven’t watched your video yet but I’m looking forward to it!!
cheers mate
Hi Robert! Could you please do a video on hydrogen production by using a regular microwave, crucible filled with flux and plastic pellets (mostly HDPE). Apparently a gram of HDPE yields near 1L of nearly pure hydrogen and remnant hydrocarbons. The solid residue is multi-walled carbon nanotube powder!
I have an original link to an article and research somewhere... if you're interested!
Link the article. Cheers
Link?
This might actually work. Ethylene is hydrogen attached to carbon, and if, as you say, you could separate the carbon and hydrogen you might have the basis for a fuel. In one Mr Robert's videos he talks about grabbing CO2 and turning it into ethylene as a fuel, so there you go, full circle.
can you post the article title and DOI a link won't work
@@ThinkingandTinkering Absolutely! It would be my pleasure. Give me a moment, please.
So did you build one yet to give it its rest or are you still talkin
HaaaaaaahAahaah
Randall Carlson covers this in quite detail. These are being tested on industrial scale levels as I type this….
A video I was excited to see you had posted!
If anyone is interested in learning a lot more about this Alchemical Science and The Martin Fleischman Memorial Project explain it really well.
cool
I tried, but I couldn't watch it all. Check it out. Interesting...@@ThinkingandTinkering
Engine exhaust might be around 240C, but the hottest part of the swirl guide is said to be like 767C. This is not a Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube, because there is a barrier between intake and exhaust flows, but it does scavenge entropy. How can this anomalously high temperature be explained?
was wondering what Robert thought of recent research and studies have revealed in the last two weeks. interested hearing his take on it.
I have hung out with Paul Pantone and have seen this work. The weird thing, is you can use almost anything to burn. I watched him pour his coke into it. I believe it was the same place as the video was shot in the late 90s.
I saw some other interesting things there, like a guy I know that put a car battery on steel rod set in bearings. It spun so fast the bearings started spraying hot grease. He wanted to know how it worked, and no one knew. Another one of those things that shouldn't work, but does.
One French guy had Paul's system on his fishing trawler!
Oh boy. I could go on a lot about devices like this and the arguments I've had on forums about hydrogen formation via cavitation and plasma bubbles and such. Most of it has been pesudoscience and people talking out their backsides. But as you said, water injection works. It's best if you can mist it or nebulise it into the air intake. It works better on turbo and supercharged engines as it lowers the compressed air tempreture. I've had friends and family members run it on their cars, from daily drivers to drag cars.
I'm thinkin about you Mr. Murray-Smith. I'll be praying for you.
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I did watch some of videos about this particular contraption. It is an open source research (there is a community of researchers around the "working principle" of it) , but , it has patent(s) pending , for some reason. However , there is a portion of information on that thing , that Rob skipped , which are : materials that suppose to give the proper (or the best?) results (some titanium , or tungsten , for the spheres and pipes , and maybe other aero-space alloys) and talk about harmonic resonance (in which , shapes and dimensions are crucial). First part (materials) put me off that thing, because of the price and availability and second thing even more , because whatever material , or shape is used , whenever heat and vibration is introduced into the system - it would mess up harmonics , which (to me) means - it'll only work (if it works)at specific laboratory conditions , meaning , any variable could change the result. Also , I didn't understood , how UV light ionizes air and why it isn't made in a way that everybody knows , which is a spark gap and high voltage . It is , for me , a bit of "mystic" science , though , I don't know much about harmonics .
mmm...I've seen spark gaps or neons on a Joule Ringer circuit, also got to do with harmonics...interesting.
I didn't skip it mate - all the stuff around celestial mathematics, special alloys and harmonics are a meaningless smoke screen to me and i said that - i was polite about it - but i said it. However if you want to believe that is important - go for it - for me it is inconsequential
@@ThinkingandTinkering Sorry , maybe I've missed that part (or didn't quite got it). I've only wrote that comment (last sentence) to say , that all of it is "out there" for me (like claimed effects of Rodin coil , or Churnikov's Gravilet...).
One reason for patents is to keep it open source. Why? If someone else patents it, the original inventor can lose all credit and ability to share. It is not easy for an ordinary person to defend ownership of his own design. There was even a movie about the inventor of the variable speed windshield wiper system facing that problem.
@@friendlyone2706 That depends on a particular country (market) and it's legal system. For an example , Chinese invented a lot of things and copied much more and what are the consequences ? If someone invents something and decide to go into production of it (attract investors) - by all means , that should be patented (if inventor lives in a place where using the patent , or intellectual property. without permission , or contract can be legally pursued). Otherwise , I don't see a point (besides boosting someones ego).
Reminds me of my moms 1979 plymouth horizon. Came with a 1.7 four cylinder. When I got it I swapped out the bias tire to a larger ratio sidewall radial tire in effect changing the gear ratio of the manual 4 speed. Found out later it was a vw 1.6 block elderbrock manifold and a 2 barrel holley carburator. Put together by Chrysler. Pass in 3rd at 55 to 70 mph.....55mpg or better a real sleeper... l talked to other owners who kept theirs just because of the mpg...from Canada
cheers mate
While uv light won't ionize it will raise the electron orbital potential of a gas. This makes it more reactive and energetic atomically.
It's the reason UV light sterilizes things and makes them fade.
After many years of experimenting; i have concluded that the smaller the size of gasoline vapor (particle size) , the leaner the engine can run, until we achieve smaller and smaller vapor size , and gasoline is a dry gas... (max. leanness ). I noticed that my huge 360 c.i. V8 ran very well with real hot air / fuel mix and a small single bbl. carburetor (meant for a much smaller engine.) in this way i could turn off the idling screw all the way vaporize
cheers mate
Hi Rob! And here I was thinking of a generator getting power from thunderstorms .Keep up the good work .
It works like a thunderstorm, it generates mini thunderstorms thats where the name comes from.
The Martin Fleischman Memorial Project (YT channel) is doing an ongoing analysis of the Thunderstorm Generator. The hypotheses over there are extremely fringe, but the observations are undeniable.
As far a I can say, the theory is that 'fractal toroidal moments' act like a unified force, electromagnetohydrodynamically shearing and/or cohering matter hyper-locally, leading to low energy nuclear reactions aka transmutation and other anomalous energetic effects. I'm heading over to the MFMP channel now to see some live microscopy of the inner surfaces of the Thunderstorms Generator spheres. I'm expecting to see marks that look high energy when we think the system is low energy. EVO marks. I think the 'fractal toroidal moment' idea has legs.
Bob is the man.
Creation of elements is hard to explain for sceptics, that why the avoid it. Conveniently.
@@pauloneill9880 But if a true plasma is created, some apparent transmutation should be expected.
As pointed out in the movie Oppenheimer, the experimentalists ALWAYS have the last word.
six stroke engines use a cooling cycle of water injection - adding a steam cycle to the engine cools it considerably.
Looking forward to this guys video he makes to retract his statements after he views the data and microscopy…
With my limited knowledge i thought the pantone device was suspect (a feeling) having it clearly explained is brilliant thank you
cheers mate
He's lying to you and he's wrong hence why didn't you machine working is being backed by Mazda and other people who put large investments to pump this out because it does work the UK is testing this on a live gas turbine as we speak has been four years everyone done the researcher made a device has it seen it working over Unity😊
Now I am trying to find something I remember reading about a research group at MIT developing a carburetor that partially converted incoming fuel & air to plasma. I do not know what the insertion point was for the plasma, presumably ignition. But, it apparently improved overall performance or efficiency by slightly over a third. The problem arose from the electrical load required to generate the plasma, originally it put more load on the alternator than the process produced per unit of fuel. IIRC they eventually found a better way to create the plasma, getting a 10% (?) net improvement, but at that point you're talking about adding a bunch of expensive parts to gain a little efficiency from the cheapest part of the process.
Since the result of the process wasn't an improvement to performance that could push an engine beyond other technologies, I don't think it ever went anywhere after that due to being economically worthless.
Some automobile engines have similar cavitation where they have too thin of a cylinder liner and the coolant that is directly in contact will cavacate and destroy the liner because this cavitation produces micro Plasma bubbles and eats away the liners in fact they use a product to break surface tension added into the coolant to help with this process. Very similar but in an Uncontrolled way
In some ways I feel sorry for Randall, but on the other hand, I guess it might be a huge wake up call. Gonna be some really interesting podcasts coming out in 2024 once Bendall and his team do a runner.
Explain how we observed matter going out of the sphere and then back in? Mufflers produce spark. It doesn't
Go thru metal. Dying for explanation.
It’s not Randall is due for the wake up call!
He made all the info public domain and free to use and it has been proven to work, several people have already made their own and attached to cars and they work, the indian navy is starting to test them, i think you are in for a wakeup call.
I think you may have to eat your words soon. Big things happening with this that cannot be discussed publicly just yet
@@denisemcrae3044I'm ready to eat mine what about you? Next time you work on a car take a peek at the exhaust manifold (the pipes coming off the back of the engine leading to the muffler) than look at the muffler it's self. You'll see the little circles they claim are caused by plasmoids (😂😂😂😂😂) as well as the "crystals" in the form of soot!
kind of an exhaust gas scrubber runs on water that scavenges efficiency and cleans up the exhaust.... seems pretty cool to me. call it plasma or plasmoids if they want to, they built it, I'm going to try. Thanks for your help with the information
Yes, the manifold vacuum is strongest at idle , it's a trap for the inexperienced tinkerers. You need to tap into the correct point along the Venturi of your classic carburettor layout or simply contrive a Venturi effect somewhere in the manifold to obtain proportional vacuum to load instead of an inverse ratio if tapped into the linear section of the manifold.
Watching various videos on the Venturi effect is a help .
I can relate the manifold pressure being different to the first time I hooked up a generator to a bicycle. I was getting good high voltages up in the 60 and 70 volts. Super easy to peddle. Then I hooked up a charger circuit and it was like peddling up a steep hill.
I wish we could take Stephen Meyers water spark plug apart and examine it!! Thank you good sir that was interesting!
Hi Rob I think you are a fascinating presenter. Since your review of the thunderstorm generator was aired I respectfully request that you review the latest information on this on various websites as I understand your review and I would have totally agreed with this a few months ago. But I had come across other information about this and it appears to have been previously covered up in the past. No surprise there. Please look into recent conventions on alternative sources,. It will enable you to contact a uk based company working on this in conjunction with oversees.
I will await your comment once you have investigated.
Many Thanks. P.J
On a different subject i was thinking about a boat propeller called an axiom. It seems counter intuitive how this works but i have sussed it and it illuminates a lot of other stuff. Anyway i think you should have a go at using the basic idea for a wind turbine.
cheers mate
Thank you !
cheers mate
Perhaps when the test data is viewed, with independent confirmation, you might reconsider your stance.
Results speak for themselves i find.
Thanks for this and the background. I was caught by the bendal flap to see where its going. I did wonder what would happen when the engines are under load
cheers mate
I love the scientific analysis of the foundations of the device to determine if and why it would or would not work and why it’s unique or not.
Take a Pat on the back for the knife twisting in the final few moments of the video. I won’t bother googling his background. I think I can guess.
lol - cheers mate
The weirder part of this for me is this guy who is promoting the whole thing: Gary Ling from "Ballsy Thinking". He has the nickname "fixer" on his name badge in one of the videos, which I interpreted in a couple of ways...guy has an interesting resume.
But where did he place the Encabulator?
Informative as always Robert, dumping knowledge bombs like its going out of fashion. Good stuff.
cheers mate
Evidently Carlson has now gone to personally observe some of the testing. Carlson has not changed his tune yet. The Wardenclyffe tower was halted because it posed a threat to profit and power. (Yet they are trying to rebuild this tech today.)
Cavitation
tat means nothing - sorry mate
@ThinkingandTinkering , you mentioned the bubbles generated at the boundary between a boat prop and water. Cavitation is what it's called. The collapse of each little cavitation bubble can take surface material off the prop, leaving it pitted. But, I'm preaching to the choir on that one.
The relevant issue is that each collapse also has the potential of temporarily ionizing a small portion of the water, producing a bright flash for an instant.
yes cavitation will do that mate - but i am not sure cavitation is happening here
@@ThinkingandTinkering, in that device, you're most certainly right. My post was just in reference to the prop.
got it mate - cheers
On the vacuum front, it depends on the butterfly location, rpm and throttle position. 3 to 4 psi is around part to wide open throttle
cheers mate
Reminds me of the energized fog particles written in Moray Kings book on water fuel. The missing link for generation is the parametric energy synthesis, i.e. collecting light, thermal, and pressure magnitudes simultaneously from said impulse.
indeed
Oxygen levels are actually increased so its pulling oxygen from something in the exhaust.
Professor, can a vortex tube operate with water in some way?
Dear Robert, I've been following you for a long time and at one point I was excited to for the opportunity to be involved in starting a battery factory under your proposed program. Unfortunately, you sold your battery technology to a global company, I think accusing Malcolm of money being his only motivation before facts is not really fair or scientific.
This video is a shame.
Hahaha I am just learning about this from the Shawn Ryan Show and this is a great counter argument/good points laid out in a fantastically hilarious way. Haha Thank you for the video
Vow, so this is how the water works in the motors. 30 years old question for me. Thank you :)
cheers mate
Thanks
There's also the point that after this first device was developed ic engines were redesigned to run a lot leaner, which basically has the same effect as the complicated device.
good point cheers mate
Not actually as a lean burn causes a major increase in NOx and test actually show a decrease in NOx
Also how do you explain the major increase in O2
@@geomatrix9992 'a lot leaner' =/= 'lean burn'. Modern engines use a lot less petrol than 1970s ones, with lower emissions including lower NOx. Because better design.
@@geomatrix9992 how do /you/ explain it? And from what data?
Better performance is not the biggest draw of this technology. The biggest feature that is important to this technology is that it burns very clean. The exhaust of this engine is less than 1% CO and CO, less than 50 ppm HC and 20% oxygen. The output is as clean as air. The Pantone engine was shown to do this back 11 years ago on TH-cam (posted by Dan Eastman). The open source plans to the Pantone engine was for a 10 Hp engine. Dan Eastman's video has gotten a generator up at a high load and outputing close to 20% oxigen. You are right about the bubbler too. It is not necessary as Dan Eastman ran a engine on a micro carburator and still got it to run clean with similar readings. Do not build the Pantone 1990 engine (horizontal reactor). There is an updated design that came out in the early 2000 with a verticle reactor. The Thunderstorm Generator is probably optimized for greater flow and is probaby better for real world use on an engine. Paul Pantone's engine was only a demonstration engine which worked well enough on a small engine. Besides running clean this engine is more efficent (up to 60% better ) and prolongs the engine life (up to 3x longer).
Its basically an ioniser only it splits the oxygen from carbon atoms etc. Its turning things like carbon monoxide into carbon and oxygen.
Hi Rob, couldn't agree more but, regarding implosion, steam bubbles contacting a liquid does implode quite aggressively.
yes it does if it is created and then implodes