The crew were called liars when they said they hit and sunk a submarine. I’m glad they got the credit they deserved. This ends all doubt. I myself met one of the gun crew and he told me that they saw it and made a wild shot and hit it and it disappeared.
The captain DID lie' to an extent. His sequence of events was completely inaccurate, and didn't really make any sense. I think he was just trying to make the report sound like a typical submarine sinking should sound, because what really went down was pretty hard to believe, even though it made perfect sense. I read an account by one of the deck gun crewman, and it was very different than the official version. I also want to point out the other reason, the crew of the Ward were reservists from MN, and had never been to sea prior to picking up the ship from the mothballed fleet, and sailing to Hawaii. And, they were 45 minutes into their first patrol on their first day on the job, so it's no wonder that they had some credibility issues.
@@ps2hacker Midget submarine #16 succeeded in launching two torpedo hits on West Virginia and Oklahoma. The submarine torpedoes were twice the size of the aerial torpedoes.
It was a Japanese 2 man submarine, less than 100 miles from Ford Island. A 5' wide hole was blown into it's hull, the operators didn't stand a chance. The sub flooded and sank like a rock.
Then he's the same capitain that sunk it on Dec 7, 1943 or 44, as captain of the uss o'brien. The ward was set completely on fire by a kamikaze betty bomber.
Ward was a Wickes class destroyer armed with four, 4 inch 50 caliber guns. The term 4 inch 50 caliber is a US Navy term meaning 4inch is the diameter of the round, caliber is the barrel length which is the bore diameter X number of calibers, so this gun had a 4 inch diameter shell with a barrel 200 inches long.
When they say 4", 50 calibers, they are actually referring to the length of the barrel quantified in multiples of the bore diameter, since it's that ratio that matters. 4", 50 calibers means the barrel is 200" long.
Absolutely history of all subjects should remain ! Either if we gain by it is always a uncertain ! But most notably it is our humanity ! Where we come from above all , is its importance ! Without history we are nothing !
back in the 70's, a concrete pier on subbase Pearl Harbor. We had a plaque that said they interred a Japanese 2 man sub in concrete to rebuild the pier. The crew was still onboard.
I knew several American vets. My friend Arlen Jenkins from Tulsa, Ok. was at Pearl Harbor Dec. 7th. 1941. He told me with tears flowing down his face about the horrors of that day. So its hard for me to be sympathetic towards folks who killed our boys. But I enjoyed your excellent video.
GOD BLESS AMERICA, & GOD BLESS ALL who served. My father worked as a civilian many years on the docks for nuclear submarines as a pipefitter (steam fitter). Then got promoted to the. Engineering end of it. And, got my more promotions during his 28.5 years. I am so proud of him. The last family day was bitter sweet. He died a proud man, as he should have, of mesothelioma. RIP Dad. He worked there until near the very end of Mare Island, letting the young family people get the last couple of months in. He was a man that loved what he did for his country & his family. A very entelligent, but modest man. And, a man that cared about his co-workers & how they could possibly keep their homes & cars.Let alone pay their regular bills & feed their families. So, no, he was not in PEARL HARBOR, but He was a real stand-up man for his country, The United States of America.
My Grandpa Lasch actually sunk one of these subs as it was sneaking in to the harbor. He was on the U.S.S. Ward. OK, so I wrote this before I watched the whole thing. That is the Sub that my grandfather and his other crew members shot. My grandfather was the sight setter on gun number 3. It's mind blowing to see this. I have always been so proud of my grandpa Lasch. And, seeing this is just amazing to me. It's sad that people had to lose their lives in this. So, even though I will always be proud of him, it still breaks my heart to know that 2 men died because they were just following orders.
@@dexterlovejoy2855 honestly, I have mixed emotions about that. Part of me doesn't wish them anything, the other part does because they were just following orders. The whole thing was done in a cowardly way. So, honestly, I don't really know. How about you?
@@amyw7731 I agree with you. There’s no way the Navy knows if the subs have weapons or not. They could sink our Navy ships so it was best to sink them first as you said how are we supposed to feel about the two Japanese soldiers they were doing their duty but Americans come first.
1,177 men died when the Arizona exploded,she is a grave,and while diving to her wreck isn't impossible being in just 40 feet of water,there is one main obstacle blocking divers.....The US Navy,Pearl Harbor is an active duty base.
They do a underwater survey every so often to monitor it's condition but the divers aren't allowed to enter the wreck. They have sent in mini robot subs though and taken photos.
The whole story of the USS Ward is actually stranger than they say. The USS Ward was actually only severely damaged in the kamikaze attack, but it was set completely on fire, including the fire fighting stations. All hands abandoned ship safely, but it stayed afloat until it was finally sunk by the USS O'Brien, the captain of which was none other than WW Outerbridge, who had been the captain of the USS Ward. Oh yeah, this all happened on Dec 7, 1944, 3 years to the day.
You appear well-read. What's your take on the evidence given for FDR conspiracy? Have you read this book: Decoding Pearl Harbor: USN Cryptanalysis and the Challenge of JN-25B in 1941 Timothy Wilford -www.cnrs-scrn.org/northern_mariner/vol12/nm_12_1_17to37.pdf in Critiques Prange, Kahn, Toland, Stennett etc...
That pepsi can isnt from that time lol. The Pepsi company ( the former name- pepsico) first came in 1965 and from what i researched the cans were way different and were labelled Pepsico btw 1965 to 1980s
I’ve heard about these lost midget subs for years, it’s good to see them finally being recognized and the sacrifices of the men that man them. It took a lot of courage in audacity to attempt to bring these craft in the Pearl Harbor.
@@nikolaj1316 In engineering terms, yes it is extremely important not to get those two confused, or it could have led to terrible mistakes such as the Spitfire MK XIV - XIX having had two engines...
At 10:18 it looks like some sea life is growing on a pair of femurs that are showing at the top of the split towards the stern section of that Japanese mini sub. If the splits in the hull were caused by the USS Ward's depth charges, it's quite possible that one of the two crewmen were sucked towards the stern split as air rushed out & water rushed in. Sure, I could be mistaken, but I've had both the opportunity & the pleasure of diving on a number of WWII Pacific wrecks while I served with the Air Force & have seen plenty of human remains, and to me that's what they look like after a long immersion underwater.
Mini subs had very small crew space, I doubt if there would. Be more than a few molecules left of the 2 crew after a 4 inch shell exploded inside the crew compartment
There are two slightly different accounts of the sinking of this sub. The one that is generally accepted as history, WW Outerbrige's account, I believe is inaccurate. I read an account by one of the gunners, that, although is completely outrageous, makes more sense, and fits the evidence seen here. In the former account, the sub was running with it's conning tower out of the water, between the Antares and the barge it was towing, then they first fired on it with the guns, making the hole in the conning tower, then sank it with a depth charge. That makes no sense, these mini subs were never meant to come to the surface, in fact the hatch to get in is on the bottom. The latter account, the one that makes sense to me, was that the sub was at periscope depth, and it was behind the barge, trying to sneak in through the anti sub nets. But the crew on the Antares was on it, and they spotted it anyway. The Ward was coming from the other direction, at full speed. So they didn't actually see it until they were right on top of it, but going full speed in the other direction, passing it by. So they first fired a depth charge while the guns were swinging around to get a shot. But the charges are set to go off at 100 feet, which is entirely too deep to damage a sub at periscope depth. But the charge had a strange effect, it blew the sub completely out of the water, several feet into the air, before slapping back down on the surface of the water. And it was now stuck there, since it's props were out of the water, and it was kicking up huge rooster tails of water that hit the side of the ship. Then they got off 2 shots with the 4 inch guns, one went long and exploded near by, the second one hit the conning tower, and that sunk it. It rolled over so the shell hole took in a bunch of water, and when it righted itself, water continued to flood into the shell hole, then it went under, and the remaining air inside belched out, and it went down like a lawn dart. This is the first time I have seen this wreck with enough detail to see the big cracks in the top of the hull. Those were clearly made by the depth charge going off 100 feet underneath the thing. Like I said, it was strong enough to blow the sub clear out of the water.
This makes more sense. There seems to be no depth charge damage (hull rippling) present. There also was a Navy PBY was flying patrol at that time and dropped smoke floats and dropped depth charges. Flown by Ens. William P. Tanner. The sub that went into the harbor was rammed and depth charge damaged by DD Monaghan. Because of all the targets on the sea bed, finding the other boats will be an ongoing ordeal.
@@loriryde5437 Not in this situation. They only had trouble when they fired a torpedo. When they fired, the bow got about 2000 pounds lighter, and caused them to porpoise quite a bit. That's the only time they had issues.
I think you are wrong. The cracks in the hull most likely came when she hit the bottom than a depth charge. She is in 1300 ft of water and would have impacted the bottom at a high rate of speed.
M-24 one of 3 mini subs that attacked Sydney Harbour during ww2 is only about 13kms north east from my location. This particular sub has been missing and only recently located in 2006
Oh that must be the sub the USS Ward sunk... I got to meet one of the gunners from that ship at the Minn state capital... One of Wards gun is there on the grounds... It is in St.Paul Minn, the other side of the river of the "Twin citys".. I gotta say when I was about 7, getting to meet one of Wards gunners at the gun as he told me about how he manned a gun (cant remember if it was that gun at the capital grounds) and his first hand eye witness to the first shots long before the IJN air craft where launched. now getting to see it is mind blowing all over again.
the undersea imaging technology has come so amazingly far- granted, the waters are clear, but this underwater imaging (and operator skill) is fantastic,,, thank you for sharing. again.. fantastic pilot & camera crew skills.. just fantastic tradesmen but I've gotta say... WTF did you cut the video short....?
Dying by slowly drowning, desperately trying to escape from the flooding, freezing cold, sinking tomb that moments before was their warm and safe place in the ocean is exactly the fate that these submariners consigned the victims of their torpedoes! Submarine warfare in WW2 was particularly despicable because they gave their victims no chance to evacuate before launching their murderous torpedo attacks! These submariners believed in the righteousness of their actions, and that they would conquer their enemies and they died trying! Thankfully, they were prevented from inflicting huge casualties by being seen and hit in what was remarkably accurate fire, striking the conning tower and leading to uncontained flooding and sinking! Long ago all human remains would have been completely absorbed by natural process and it remains a construct to believe (as I do) that the crew will forever remain aboard their ill fated mini submarine, whose structure is also being naturally absorbed.
@Kabuki Kitsune Thank you for this information, of which I wasn't aware of. You are indeed correct, the concussive blast capable of physically lifting their craft out of the water would have most likely been un-survivable within the confines of their tiny pressure hull. A rather more humane death than to be trapped and conscious as one's flooding vessel sank.
I quess the biggest question I would have to ask would be, with what we have seen with deteriation at Titanic. What can we do to prevent the same here. I am referencing to the rusticals as such.
Interesting, but the capital of Minnesota is St Paul not Minneapolis. The Capital and other state buildings are on the campus and yes, the #3 turret remains on the capital grounds
The sacrifices made by the military families are not all written down, or acknowledged for National Security. He said that he loved his ,various jobs. He still makes me proud. GOD BLESS everybody,Who's life wàs changed by the events of Pearl Harbor. And, God Bless those who suffered, & sacrificed in other events for the Great U.S.A. When we work together, for all of the right reasons, we accomplish great things. So, let's get to it in a positive manner. Shall We! ,
That's awesome, they INSISTED upon being involved in the Pearl Harbor sneak attack, which was reluctantly approved on the condition they all returned safely only to lose all but one who survived when his submarine was washed ashore, becoming America's first POW and his craft studied and analyzed before being shipped around the Country to raise money in War bonds. 🤣 Oh, the sweet SWEET irony. 🇺🇸 Edit; This is Number 20, attacked by the USS Ward (DD-139) at 6:37 a.m. on December 7th. It lies in 400 meters (1,312 feet) of water 5 miles outside of Pearl Harbor, and was discovered by a U of Hawaii research submersible on August 28th 2002. This was a live stream from when it was visited, (at about 6:30 am local time) by the Okeanos explorer ROV, on the 75 year anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attacks. The day it was sunk. The very first shot fired by the United States in WWII was by the USS Ward firing a .50 caliber round into the Conning Tower of this Submarine. You can see the hole that shot left behind still at 34:00 (ish) in this video. The gun that made that shot is now installed in a Memorial at the Minnesota State Capitol in St. Paul. Removed from the Ward when it was retrofitted in the 50's.
I believe that they found another mini sub in the west Loch, this may the one that might have been firing on Battleship Row, hitting either the Oklahoma or the West Virginia.
The crew is in this sub, however, its been 75 years plus, only thing you would see is clothing, due to deepth and bones basically are absorbed by the sea, for a lack sophistication vua in-depth detail. So no bones..
Oh it's the one the Ward sunk, not just anther junked minisub of which there are several there. Lots of junked ships, planes, vehicles, and assorted trash dumped off Pearl for the last 100 years
No i'm not, read Naval Gun by Ian V. HOGG . It explains caliber calculations for naval guns. P.S. If you want to be critical of other peoples comments, try giving a counter-point.
AS has been said several times above the shell was 4" in diameter, the gun barrel was 50 calibers long, (200 inches) Get it right? you need to learn about guns cause obviously you know nothing about them.....
@@egilman6320 GFY ! I'm not up to snuff on Navy terms for big guns . It's not you correcting me, but, your assumption I know nothing about guns . So again, GFY .
Capt. Rood and the Light Cruiser USS St Louis , CL-49 sunk a sub in harbor after the sub launched its torpedoes and they detonated on a shoal 200 yards from the ship. Gunner Frank DuBosque put a 5" round through it but it did not detonate. The sunken mini sub was later found and towed to sea and dumped. The "Lucky Lou" legend began at Pearl Harbor that day. The gunner was awarded for the action many years later. He was told to never talk of the shooting for security reasons. Later in the war a full sized sub did get a torpedo hit on the Lucky Lou and blew away a lot of the bow but the ship pressed on until a new bow was refitted and then went to Okinawa for the big show. The St. Louis then survived a nasty Kamikazi hit there that killed a lot of antiaircraft gunners. My Dad was a Petty Officer first Class and Coxwain of a 120' Mark 5 Landing Craft ( LCT) at Okinawa as well. He never met Frank but Franks son is my good friend long time now.
You know? This is nothing compared to what the Russian population went through during WW2. Americans civilians were essentially insulated from the horrors of WW2. American civilians only hardship was to conserve gasoline and rubber. While the Russians had to dig trenches in their own communities in case Panzer tanks decided to pay a visit.
Roguemember The American population still had to deal with the losses of their men and women, plus a society turned upside down by war. Yes, we were lucky not to have other violence on our shores, and yes, the Russian people suffered atrocities, but to reduce it to rationing rubber is disrespectful and showcasing a misinformed personal field of knowledge.
Let’s see - The Soviet Union signed a Non-Aggression Pact with Hitler, joined with him in the rape and pilferage of Poland, attacked Norway, didn’t help any of the Western European countries at the start of the war - and after Hitler turned on them they begged for the Allies help. Remember, Stalin had purged all his great generals. Lets feel sorry for them.
SIEMPRE ME FASCINO LA MANERA EN LA CUAL EL MAR DEVUELVE A LOS ELEMENTOS QUE COMPONEN LA TIERRA 🌎 UN NAUFRAGIO. SIEMPRE. TAN SOLO QUE ME HACE PENSAR A LA VEZ, QUE SEA CUAL SEA LA NACIONALIDAD DEL NAUFRAGIO, TODOS SE DESCOMPONEN EN LO MISMO...NO SOMOS ENEMIGOS, AL FINAL DEL CAMINO, LA NATURALEZA UNA VEZ MUERTOS, NOS RECONCILIA EN LO MISMO. NO A L GUERRA!!!!
Just goes to show ya how ignorant people are they just dump shit in the oceon because nobody will see it , i get ships and war wrecks thats not done on purpose but a can , plastic etc just sad
@libra8a they found a plastic bag with garbage in it at the bottom of the Marianas trench 7 miles down when they did a deep sea diving expedition there, so i don't doubt.
That pepsi can isnt from that time lol. The Pepsi company ( the former name- pepsico) first came in 1965 and from what i researched the cans were way different and were labelled Pepsico btw 1965 to 1980s
Is this the actual midget submarine that was spotted and sunk (using depth charges or fired upon?) by the destroyer USS Ward hours before the attack began?
Clearly one of about 5 midget subs, about 67’ long. There is one just like this you can walk right up to, preserved in the Nimitz Museum in Fredericksburg, Texas, not called the Museum of the Pacific War. Fantastic place.
Brian, the Museum's official name is the Nimitz National Museum of the Pacific War. He was the primary force behind creating this musem, donating his grandfather's hotel where he grew up before attending the Naval Academy. You are correct, it is a fantastic place to visit.
I was really quite moved by your beautiful, kind and respectful words to the tragic, lost young men whom will forever remain in their submarine 1500+ feet down on the ocean floor! That you had carefully and respectfully verified their names and said what you did in their own language to honour their loyalty, dedication and loss was touchingly beautiful! The videography is beautifully clear and stable and was well illuminated. Thank you for making and broadcasting this special video.
IDK.... They were a part of a sneak attack on the US and 2400 Americans were killed doing it. Also they were not ordered to go they volunteered and assisted on going. You have to remember Japan did not declare war on us until after the attack. Today they would be terrorists. I also find it funny that we should show respect for such people but should show nothing but disrespect to the south's solders from the civil war. The South in the 1800's had nothing on what the Japanese did in the 30's and 40's. To this day most of Asia would still like to wipe Japan off the map for the past. PS, before you flame me for being a raciest I only use the South because its the perfect contrast.
@@finscreenname I'm afraid you've misjudged me! I wouldn't flame you at all. I can fully respect your opinion without necessarily agreeing with you on every point. It was the humanity and respect of the narrator that struck me, having taken the care to learn the names of the deceased crew members and offering up a quotation in Japanese to the long lost crew, all these decades later! In truth, ordinarily I have a particularly low opinion of the despicable Japanese military forces because of their sickening maltreatment, torture, starvation and murder of POW's and Civilians, including to a family member whom never recovered psychologically or physically from what was done to him in Japanese POW camps! In their zeal to attack US vessels, these submariners experienced the type of deaths they consigned the victims of their torpedoes to, namely, drowning in a rapidly flooding, sinking vessel with no chance to escape! By any measure, this was a particularly hideous attack on a country not actually at war with Japan, and the human losses were truly appalling. The fact that I was moved by the narrator regarding these two lost crew doesn't mean that I overlook what they were a part of, and what their goal was, or that the attack that they were part of took so many US lives that day. That I was moved by the narrator was really quite a surprise to me, but the truth is that I was moved enough to acknowledge that the submarine's crew were people too, despite their vile actions! Thank you for participating in the discussion.
Can not retrieve it, war grave. Additionally, it is at 1300 ft which is beyond economical salvage depth. Also, not in good physical condition and would most likely come apart if moved.
That pepsi can isnt from that time lol. The Pepsi company ( the former name- pepsico) first came in 1965 and from what i researched the cans were way different and were labelled Pepsico btw 1965 to 1980s
If USS Ward attacked this sub BEFORE (almost 1.5 hours before) the start of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor naval base and the Army installations closer to the mountains, doesn't that technically make the US the initiator of hostilities with Japan.
Midget submarine #16 succeeded in launching two torpedo hits on West Virginia and Oklahoma. The submarine torpedoes were twice the size of the aerial torpedoes.
The crew were called liars when they said they hit and sunk a submarine. I’m glad they got the credit they deserved. This ends all doubt. I myself met one of the gun crew and he told me that they saw it and made a wild shot and hit it and it disappeared.
The captain DID lie' to an extent. His sequence of events was completely inaccurate, and didn't really make any sense. I think he was just trying to make the report sound like a typical submarine sinking should sound, because what really went down was pretty hard to believe, even though it made perfect sense. I read an account by one of the deck gun crewman, and it was very different than the official version.
I also want to point out the other reason, the crew of the Ward were reservists from MN, and had never been to sea prior to picking up the ship from the mothballed fleet, and sailing to Hawaii. And, they were 45 minutes into their first patrol on their first day on the job, so it's no wonder that they had some credibility issues.
@@ps2hacker Midget submarine #16 succeeded in launching two torpedo hits on West Virginia and Oklahoma. The submarine torpedoes were twice the size of the aerial torpedoes.
They still made it into Tora Tora Tora though 😊
It was a Japanese 2 man submarine, less than 100 miles from Ford Island. A 5' wide hole was blown into it's hull, the operators didn't stand a chance. The sub flooded and sank like a rock.
My great grandfather was a diver in Pearl Harbor that passed because of smoke inhalation while rescuing sailors from the ships
Hero.
Thank you! My grandfather's brother was the Captain of the USS Ward, the ship that sunk that sub.
Your Great Uncle
Then he's the same capitain that sunk it on Dec 7, 1943 or 44, as captain of the uss o'brien. The ward was set completely on fire by a kamikaze betty bomber.
William Woodward Outerbridge
A 4 inch, 50 caliber shell? what the what?
Ward was a Wickes class destroyer armed with four, 4 inch 50 caliber guns. The term 4 inch 50 caliber is a US Navy term meaning 4inch is the diameter of the round, caliber is the barrel length which is the bore diameter X number of calibers, so this gun had a 4 inch diameter shell with a barrel 200 inches long.
@@tegunn Now I know what 5 inch, 38 meant. Thanks
@@tegunn bore diameter 4" or 102 mm. Nice sized round
When they say 4", 50 calibers, they are actually referring to the length of the barrel quantified in multiples of the bore diameter, since it's that ratio that matters. 4", 50 calibers means the barrel is 200" long.
@@ps2hacker as said 3 years ago...
History, a wonderful thing. let's not forget it!
J Pol Amen My friend! 😁
I agree with you J POL I love studying all of the USA wars and what has come from them.
Absolutely history of all subjects should remain ! Either if we gain by it is always a uncertain ! But most notably it is our humanity ! Where we come from above all , is its importance ! Without history we are nothing !
Ba dum dum PSSSH 🥁
It would be nice but not likely to happen, as represented by current events.
God bless all those sailers and soldiers and family’s and nurses and civilians
back in the 70's, a concrete pier on subbase Pearl Harbor. We had a plaque that said they interred a Japanese 2 man sub in concrete to rebuild the pier. The crew was still onboard.
I am pretty sure they made sure that those 2 men were really dead before they put it into a concrete pier.
@@flipjenl9616 LOL!!
good place for them
@@douglaswildey5294 ????
That sub was sunk in the harbor during the battle. She was rammed and depth charged by USS Monaghan.
I knew several American vets. My friend Arlen Jenkins from Tulsa, Ok. was at Pearl Harbor Dec. 7th. 1941. He told me with tears flowing down his face about the horrors of that day. So its hard for me to be sympathetic towards folks who killed our boys. But I enjoyed your excellent video.
GOD BLESS AMERICA, & GOD BLESS ALL who served. My father worked as a civilian many years on the docks for nuclear submarines as a pipefitter (steam fitter). Then got promoted to the. Engineering end of it. And, got my more promotions during his 28.5 years. I am so proud of him. The last family day was bitter sweet. He died a proud man, as he should have, of mesothelioma. RIP Dad. He worked there until near the very end of Mare Island, letting the young family people get the last couple of months in. He was a man that loved what he did for his country & his family. A very entelligent, but modest man. And, a man that cared about his co-workers & how they could possibly keep their homes & cars.Let alone pay their regular bills & feed their families. So, no, he was not in PEARL HARBOR, but He was a real stand-up man for his country, The United States of America.
Wow your dad is cool. R.I.P
Marin Crest Sounds like a hero to me, I thank him for his service! R.I.P SIR 🙏🏼
RIP
18:13 The japanese drinked Pepsi??
Edit: it's a joke guys, chilll
lmao
reageraren No. Pepsi 1941. Sake.
traitors
Yup and the Germans invented Fanta !
@@bendoon7010, ye. because America embargoed germany
Here in Australia we had these hit Australia as well..
@Craig Sweeney I had a good look at the museums Sub, it's pretty small and her crew must have been very dedicated to sail any distance .
Is this the one USS Ward took down?
Yes it is. At the 34 to 35 minute mark, you can see where the USS Ward hit the conning tower.
My Grandpa Lasch actually sunk one of these subs as it was sneaking in to the harbor. He was on the U.S.S. Ward. OK, so I wrote this before I watched the whole thing. That is the Sub that my grandfather and his other crew members shot. My grandfather was the sight setter on gun number 3. It's mind blowing to see this. I have always been so proud of my grandpa Lasch. And, seeing this is just amazing to me. It's sad that people had to lose their lives in this. So, even though I will always be proud of him, it still breaks my heart to know that 2 men died because they were just following orders.
Amy, how do you feel about the narrator speaking the names of the two occupants of the sub and wishing them to rest in peace?
@@dexterlovejoy2855 honestly, I have mixed emotions about that. Part of me doesn't wish them anything, the other part does because they were just following orders. The whole thing was done in a cowardly way. So, honestly, I don't really know. How about you?
very cool
@@amyw7731 I agree with you. There’s no way the Navy knows if the subs have weapons or not. They could sink our Navy ships so it was best to sink them first as you said how are we supposed to feel about the two Japanese soldiers they were doing their duty but Americans come first.
1,177 men died when the Arizona exploded,she is a grave,and while diving to her wreck isn't impossible being in just 40 feet of water,there is one main obstacle blocking divers.....The US Navy,Pearl Harbor is an active duty base.
No its off limits. She's is a war memorial, a grave. Diving it is disrespectful.
They do a underwater survey every so often to monitor it's condition but the divers aren't allowed to enter the wreck. They have sent in mini robot subs though and taken photos.
That Pepsi can does give a good scale reference to the size of the sub - it's really small.
The whole story of the USS Ward is actually stranger than they say. The USS Ward was actually only severely damaged in the kamikaze attack, but it was set completely on fire, including the fire fighting stations. All hands abandoned ship safely, but it stayed afloat until it was finally sunk by the USS O'Brien, the captain of which was none other than WW Outerbridge, who had been the captain of the USS Ward. Oh yeah, this all happened on Dec 7, 1944, 3 years to the day.
You appear well-read. What's your take on the evidence given for FDR conspiracy? Have you read this book:
Decoding Pearl Harbor:
USN Cryptanalysis and the Challenge of JN-25B in 1941
Timothy Wilford
-www.cnrs-scrn.org/northern_mariner/vol12/nm_12_1_17to37.pdf in
Critiques Prange, Kahn, Toland, Stennett etc...
Thank you so much, I hadn't heard any of this story about USS Ward except that she was the first to fire a shot in WW2.
That pepsi can will be priceless in 500 years
That pepsi can isnt from that time lol. The Pepsi company ( the former name- pepsico) first came in 1965 and from what i researched the cans were way different and were labelled Pepsico btw 1965 to 1980s
@@skm1856 Read his comment again
I salute All Americans soldiers 🙌
Grigee Seban Sailors?
A perfect shot.... well done!!
My heart goes out to there wife’s and family’s this is a massive memorial to the dead that lost there lives during the attacks on Pearl harbour
I’ve heard about these lost midget subs for years, it’s good to see them finally being recognized and the sacrifices of the men that man them. It took a lot of courage in audacity to attempt to bring these craft in the Pearl Harbor.
Man, that product placement in shows and movies are just getting totally out of hand.
0:09 Contra-Rotating, not Counter-Rotating.
Good that you pointed that out, very useful information.
@@nikolaj1316 In engineering terms, yes it is extremely important not to get those two confused, or it could have led to terrible mistakes such as the Spitfire MK XIV - XIX having had two engines...
At 10:18 it looks like some sea life is growing on a pair of femurs that are showing at the top of the split towards the stern section of that Japanese mini sub. If the splits in the hull were caused by the USS Ward's depth charges, it's quite possible that one of the two crewmen were sucked towards the stern split as air rushed out & water rushed in.
Sure, I could be mistaken, but I've had both the opportunity & the pleasure of diving on a number of WWII Pacific wrecks while I served with the Air Force & have seen plenty of human remains, and to me that's what they look like after a long immersion underwater.
Mini subs had very small crew space, I doubt if there would. Be more than a few molecules left of the 2 crew after a 4 inch shell exploded inside the crew compartment
There are two slightly different accounts of the sinking of this sub. The one that is generally accepted as history, WW Outerbrige's account, I believe is inaccurate. I read an account by one of the gunners, that, although is completely outrageous, makes more sense, and fits the evidence seen here. In the former account, the sub was running with it's conning tower out of the water, between the Antares and the barge it was towing, then they first fired on it with the guns, making the hole in the conning tower, then sank it with a depth charge. That makes no sense, these mini subs were never meant to come to the surface, in fact the hatch to get in is on the bottom. The latter account, the one that makes sense to me, was that the sub was at periscope depth, and it was behind the barge, trying to sneak in through the anti sub nets. But the crew on the Antares was on it, and they spotted it anyway. The Ward was coming from the other direction, at full speed. So they didn't actually see it until they were right on top of it, but going full speed in the other direction, passing it by. So they first fired a depth charge while the guns were swinging around to get a shot. But the charges are set to go off at 100 feet, which is entirely too deep to damage a sub at periscope depth. But the charge had a strange effect, it blew the sub completely out of the water, several feet into the air, before slapping back down on the surface of the water. And it was now stuck there, since it's props were out of the water, and it was kicking up huge rooster tails of water that hit the side of the ship. Then they got off 2 shots with the 4 inch guns, one went long and exploded near by, the second one hit the conning tower, and that sunk it. It rolled over so the shell hole took in a bunch of water, and when it righted itself, water continued to flood into the shell hole, then it went under, and the remaining air inside belched out, and it went down like a lawn dart.
This is the first time I have seen this wreck with enough detail to see the big cracks in the top of the hull. Those were clearly made by the depth charge going off 100 feet underneath the thing. Like I said, it was strong enough to blow the sub clear out of the water.
This makes more sense. There seems to be no depth charge damage (hull rippling) present. There also was a Navy PBY was flying patrol at that time and dropped smoke floats and dropped depth charges. Flown by Ens. William P. Tanner. The sub that went into the harbor was rammed and depth charge damaged by DD Monaghan. Because of all the targets on the sea bed, finding the other boats will be an ongoing ordeal.
That would have been something to see. Like someone said it had to have made one heck of a mess when that 4 in. round hit the conning tower.
It was difficult to accurately control the depth in these little subs they may have stuck conning tower out of the water by accident
@@loriryde5437 Not in this situation. They only had trouble when they fired a torpedo. When they fired, the bow got about 2000 pounds lighter, and caused them to porpoise quite a bit. That's the only time they had issues.
I think you are wrong. The cracks in the hull most likely came when she hit the bottom than a depth charge. She is in 1300 ft of water and would have impacted the bottom at a high rate of speed.
M-24 one of 3 mini subs that attacked Sydney Harbour during ww2 is only about 13kms north east from my location.
This particular sub has been missing and only recently located in 2006
I've seen this boat (or one like it) when it was at Sub base in Groton, CT
A mini sub washed ashore weeks prior to the air raid, did it not??
No, after the attack on the east side of Oahu.
Was that crack in the hull caused by depth charge attack?
The ocean is a scary place. How far down is submarine?
1,300 feet
It’s obvious u never been to the beach by looking at your comment
This is the sub uss ward sunk, we fired the first shot.
Bro uss Arizona isn’t that deep
It’s 59 feet
Was the crew removed or left in the sub?
nevermind, they explained.
Oh that must be the sub the USS Ward sunk... I got to meet one of the gunners from that ship at the Minn state capital... One of Wards gun is there on the grounds... It is in St.Paul Minn, the other side of the river of the "Twin citys".. I gotta say when I was about 7, getting to meet one of Wards gunners at the gun as he told me about how he manned a gun (cant remember if it was that gun at the capital grounds) and his first hand eye witness to the first shots long before the IJN air craft where launched. now getting to see it is mind blowing all over again.
the undersea imaging technology has come so amazingly far- granted, the waters are clear, but this underwater imaging (and operator skill) is fantastic,,, thank you for sharing.
again.. fantastic pilot & camera crew skills.. just fantastic tradesmen
but I've gotta say... WTF did you cut the video short....?
So lucky that Pepsi can was right there next to the props, just inches, so we could be subjected to a lengthy diatrabe about pollution.
Me: is that freaking Pepsi can?
Narrator: yes folks that is a freaking Pepsi can
😅😅😅
The main thing is who gets to keep the nickel deposit on that can?👈👀
"Before we're through with them, the japanese language will be spoken only in hell."
~ Admiral William "Bull" Halsey
December 1941
Really cramped space for the crew. What a way to go.
Dying by slowly drowning, desperately trying to escape from the flooding, freezing cold, sinking tomb that moments before was their warm and safe place in the ocean is exactly the fate that these submariners consigned the victims of their torpedoes!
Submarine warfare in WW2 was particularly despicable because they gave their victims no chance to evacuate before launching their murderous torpedo attacks!
These submariners believed in the righteousness of their actions, and that they would conquer their enemies and they died trying!
Thankfully, they were prevented from inflicting huge casualties by being seen and hit in what was remarkably accurate fire, striking the conning tower and leading to uncontained flooding and sinking!
Long ago all human remains would have been completely absorbed by natural process and it remains a construct to believe (as I do) that the crew will forever remain aboard their ill fated mini submarine, whose structure is also being naturally absorbed.
@Kabuki Kitsune Thank you for this information, of which I wasn't aware of.
You are indeed correct, the concussive blast capable of physically lifting their craft out of the water would have most likely been un-survivable within the confines of their tiny pressure hull.
A rather more humane death than to be trapped and conscious as one's flooding vessel sank.
Freezing cold? Not even close.
Look up the CSS Huntley; 5+ crew.
@@ashontahuddleston6663 Oh, I saw the movie. Very sad.
I quess the biggest question I would have to ask would be, with what we have seen with deteriation at Titanic. What can we do to prevent the same here. I am referencing to the rusticals as such.
Military ships are made with a much higher grade of steel. Titanic's metal was much lower grade steel.
Amazing to see the first shot by the US to avenge the attack on Pearl, beginning WWII.
"You want confirmation, Captain? There's your confirmation..."
The movie "Tora, Tora, Tora" tells this story quite well...
Interesting, but the capital of Minnesota is St Paul not Minneapolis. The Capital and other state buildings are on the campus and yes, the #3 turret remains on the capital grounds
can it not be rescued and preserved? if it still has crew they can be laid to rest with their family
Leave them alone. They are at their post as are the crews of 52 of our submarines. We know where many of them are, but there they should stay.
those torpedos are still live. You want to try and get those remains out? lol
What is the name of this submarine?
God Bless those who fought an died in the attack on Pearl Harbor
Let them rot. Most racist bastards ever. Sjw product of public school
Just make me sad to see these images because people died in these boats
Why? They were participating in an act of war. They knew the likely outcome of their actions.
@@justinfowler2857 Yeah because I'm sure Japanese men had the choice
GarrittpwlTV public school?
May they both burn in HELL for their deeds!!
Don't remember but they said in the video, ,,,1300 ft?
The sacrifices made by the military families are not all written down, or acknowledged for National Security. He said that he loved his ,various jobs. He still makes me proud. GOD BLESS everybody,Who's life wàs changed by the events of Pearl Harbor. And, God Bless those who suffered, & sacrificed in other events for the Great U.S.A. When we work together, for all of the right reasons, we accomplish great things. So, let's get to it in a positive manner. Shall We!
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Is it there? No plan to salvage mini-sub for soldiers left under the sea for 75 years? Japan should pay for them.
You should pay for it.
The is not safe to raise as it still has live torpedoes and scudlin charges
RIP to the good men to
That's awesome, they INSISTED upon being involved in the Pearl Harbor sneak attack, which was reluctantly approved on the condition they all returned safely only to lose all but one who survived when his submarine was washed ashore, becoming America's first POW and his craft studied and analyzed before being shipped around the Country to raise money in War bonds. 🤣
Oh, the sweet SWEET irony. 🇺🇸
Edit; This is Number 20, attacked by the USS Ward (DD-139) at 6:37 a.m. on December 7th.
It lies in 400 meters (1,312 feet) of water 5 miles outside of Pearl Harbor, and was discovered by a U of Hawaii research submersible on August 28th 2002.
This was a live stream from when it was visited, (at about 6:30 am local time) by the Okeanos explorer ROV, on the 75 year anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attacks. The day it was sunk.
The very first shot fired by the United States in WWII was by the USS Ward firing a .50 caliber round into the Conning Tower of this Submarine. You can see the hole that shot left behind still at 34:00 (ish) in this video.
The gun that made that shot is now installed in a Memorial at the Minnesota State Capitol in St. Paul. Removed from the Ward when it was retrofitted in the 50's.
No entiendo no puedo ver la película
I would find it creepy if i diving in the dark and come up to a wreck like that submarine.
I_NAMELESS_I yes because the ocean is like a massive cemetery, and we all swim in it. Crazy to know people are stuck in there too.
First shot at the sub from the four-inch gun missed the second shot from the 3 inch gun is the one that hit the conning tower.
I believe that they found another mini sub in the west Loch, this may the one that might have been firing on Battleship Row, hitting either the Oklahoma or the West Virginia.
Did we raise or refloat it?
To the narrator: Why do you keep stuttering and stopping the narration??
To piss YOU off lol it's always about you! 👍😊
@@twstf8905 well of course I have sociopath and narcissistic tendencies. 😉
@@twstf8905 actually its about me.....usually
So they're still body/bones in that Sub?
ImpalerGaming Yes
ImpalerGaming Oil is still leaking out of the ships
ImpalerGaming yeah. but most of them have decomposed by now
not longer......
The crew is in this sub, however, its been 75 years plus, only thing you would see is clothing, due to deepth and bones basically are absorbed by the sea, for a lack sophistication vua in-depth detail. So no bones..
Gun barrel diameter versus barrel length determines caliber size. Google it.
Oh it's the one the Ward sunk, not just anther junked minisub of which there are several there. Lots of junked ships, planes, vehicles, and assorted trash dumped off Pearl for the last 100 years
Is there any Spitfire planes to
They need to raise it up to the surface
Why tf would they do that?
Everything there is literally history and a grave.
It will be susidle with live torpedoes and scudlin charges
4 inch 50 cal means 4 inch bore dia. times 50 ,or 200 inches from breech face to muzzle.
No i'm not, read Naval Gun by Ian V. HOGG . It explains caliber calculations for naval guns. P.S. If you want to be critical of other peoples comments, try giving a counter-point.
Naval gun by Ian V. Hogg, read it or google it. By the way, if you disagree with someone, give a counterpoint.
That was quite a shot hitting the center of the conning tower-right where the commander would have been.
@34:34 he says a 4" .50 caliber shell ? WTF is he talking about ? .50 cal.=1/2 inch . Get it right or don't talk about it .
AS has been said several times above the shell was 4" in diameter, the gun barrel was 50 calibers long, (200 inches) Get it right? you need to learn about guns cause obviously you know nothing about them.....
@@egilman6320 GFY ! I'm not up to snuff on Navy terms for big guns . It's not you correcting me, but, your assumption I know nothing about guns . So again, GFY .
@@colt-ss3lw i have fired a Colt 45 at The Gun Shop in Las Vegas it had more kick than a Thompson SMG and a P40 SMG (WW2 Pack)
H.U.R.L. Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory. Best Acronym ever.
Nice video thanks 🙏
great video , but would be better if it was 380p!!!!
Capt. Rood and the Light Cruiser USS St Louis , CL-49 sunk a sub in harbor after the sub launched its torpedoes and they detonated on a shoal 200 yards from the ship. Gunner Frank DuBosque put a 5" round through it but it did not detonate. The sunken mini sub was later found and towed to sea and dumped. The "Lucky Lou" legend began at Pearl Harbor that day. The gunner was awarded for the action many years later. He was told to never talk of the shooting for security reasons. Later in the war a full sized sub did get a torpedo hit on the Lucky Lou and blew away a lot of the bow but the ship pressed on until a new bow was refitted and then went to Okinawa for the big show. The St. Louis then survived a nasty Kamikazi hit there that killed a lot of antiaircraft gunners. My Dad was a Petty Officer first Class and Coxwain of a 120' Mark 5 Landing Craft ( LCT) at Okinawa as well. He never met Frank but Franks son is my good friend long time now.
Should bring it up
You know? This is nothing compared to what the Russian population went through during WW2. Americans civilians were essentially insulated from the horrors of WW2. American civilians only hardship was to conserve gasoline and rubber. While the Russians had to dig trenches in their own communities in case Panzer tanks decided to pay a visit.
that and then they had a leader who killed any who said no to him in any way shape or form.
+AcolyteOF Fire and killed their own men for retreating from a meat grinder assault
Roguemember The American population still had to deal with the losses of their men and women, plus a society turned upside down by war. Yes, we were lucky not to have other violence on our shores, and yes, the Russian people suffered atrocities, but to reduce it to rationing rubber is disrespectful and showcasing a misinformed personal field of knowledge.
Let’s see - The Soviet Union signed a Non-Aggression Pact with Hitler, joined with him in the rape and pilferage of Poland, attacked Norway, didn’t help any of the Western European countries at the start of the war - and after Hitler turned on them they begged for the Allies help. Remember, Stalin had purged all his great generals. Lets feel sorry for them.
Roguemember man fuck Stalin and fuck russia! american with love!
SIEMPRE ME FASCINO LA MANERA EN LA CUAL EL MAR DEVUELVE A LOS ELEMENTOS QUE COMPONEN LA TIERRA 🌎 UN NAUFRAGIO. SIEMPRE. TAN SOLO QUE ME HACE PENSAR A LA VEZ, QUE SEA CUAL SEA LA NACIONALIDAD DEL NAUFRAGIO, TODOS SE DESCOMPONEN EN LO MISMO...NO SOMOS ENEMIGOS, AL FINAL DEL CAMINO, LA NATURALEZA UNA VEZ MUERTOS, NOS RECONCILIA EN LO MISMO. NO A L GUERRA!!!!
I wish there was something to compare its size to!
that random pepsi can kinda ruins the site tbh..
Just goes to show ya how ignorant people are they just dump shit in the oceon because nobody will see it , i get ships and war wrecks thats not done on purpose but a can , plastic etc just sad
@libra8a they found a plastic bag with garbage in it at the bottom of the Marianas trench 7 miles down when they did a deep sea diving expedition there, so i don't doubt.
Yes it does. Then again, that can does give a point of reference to see the size of the sub.
Where'd that Pepsi can @ 17:50 come from?
dieselyeti Some littering asshat no doubt. 😢
A Pepsi can???
That pepsi can isnt from that time lol. The Pepsi company ( the former name- pepsico) first came in 1965 and from what i researched the cans were way different and were labelled Pepsico btw 1965 to 1980s
Is this the actual midget submarine that was spotted and sunk (using depth charges or fired upon?) by the destroyer USS Ward hours before the attack began?
They need to raise it.
Please, can we just see what's down there? Lose the narration.
Clearly one of about 5 midget subs, about 67’ long. There is one just like this you can walk right up to, preserved in the Nimitz Museum in Fredericksburg, Texas, not called the Museum of the Pacific War. Fantastic place.
Brian, the Museum's official name is the Nimitz National Museum of the Pacific War. He was the primary force behind creating this musem, donating his grandfather's hotel where he grew up before attending the Naval Academy. You are correct, it is a fantastic place to visit.
Thank you for respecting the other side for a change!
heres a question how is the search going for the WW2 carriers and other ships
the camera makes it like the sub is super duper small
They said that nine out of the ten where lost. has the other 8 been found
Other 8? 9 were lost, the 10th became a POW
I was really quite moved by your beautiful, kind and respectful words to the tragic, lost young men whom will forever remain in their submarine 1500+ feet down on the ocean floor!
That you had carefully and respectfully verified their names and said what you did in their own language to honour their loyalty, dedication and loss was touchingly beautiful!
The videography is beautifully clear and stable and was well illuminated.
Thank you for making and broadcasting this special video.
IDK.... They were a part of a sneak attack on the US and 2400 Americans were killed doing it. Also they were not ordered to go they volunteered and assisted on going. You have to remember Japan did not declare war on us until after the attack. Today they would be terrorists.
I also find it funny that we should show respect for such people but should show nothing but disrespect to the south's solders from the civil war. The South in the 1800's had nothing on what the Japanese did in the 30's and 40's. To this day most of Asia would still like to wipe Japan off the map for the past.
PS, before you flame me for being a raciest I only use the South because its the perfect contrast.
@@finscreenname I'm afraid you've misjudged me!
I wouldn't flame you at all.
I can fully respect your opinion without necessarily agreeing with you on every point.
It was the humanity and respect of the narrator that struck me, having taken the care to learn the names of the deceased crew members and offering up a quotation in Japanese to the long lost crew, all these decades later!
In truth, ordinarily I have a particularly low opinion of the despicable Japanese military forces because of their sickening maltreatment, torture, starvation and murder of POW's and Civilians, including to a family member whom never recovered psychologically or physically from what was done to him in Japanese POW camps!
In their zeal to attack US vessels, these submariners experienced the type of deaths they consigned the victims of their torpedoes to, namely, drowning in a rapidly flooding, sinking vessel with no chance to escape!
By any measure, this was a particularly hideous attack on a country not actually at war with Japan, and the human losses were truly appalling.
The fact that I was moved by the narrator regarding these two lost crew doesn't mean that I overlook what they were a part of, and what their goal was, or that the attack that they were part of took so many US lives that day.
That I was moved by the narrator was really quite a surprise to me, but the truth is that I was moved enough to acknowledge that the submarine's crew were people too, despite their vile actions!
Thank you for participating in the discussion.
MAY THEY BOTH BURN IN HELL!!!
@@dexterlovejoy2855 Somewhere, the underside of a rock awaits its inhabitant...
The sub that was shot at and sunk and the American ship that didn't tell the Hawaii ships or anything well one
@ 7:01 I thought I saw a pair of eyeballs peeking out...could of been a electric ell. Call George Costanza the architect...marine biologist.
mark Wright Moray. Eel, not electric
21:34 nice commercial for Pepsi-cola.
should retrieve it and save it for memories
Agree
No
Can not retrieve it, war grave. Additionally, it is at 1300 ft which is beyond economical salvage depth. Also, not in good physical condition and would most likely come apart if moved.
Why don't we have a small camera to see inside the sub to see where the crew used to be
Rick Right still are
Because it's a grave, they're still inside.
That pepsi can isnt from that time lol. The Pepsi company ( the former name- pepsico) first came in 1965 and from what i researched the cans were way different and were labelled Pepsico btw 1965 to 1980s
Was this the sub that got into the harbor during the Attack or the one that was supposedly sunk by the USS Ward?
Yes
This was the one sunk by the USS Ward.
how old is that pepsi can
Eli Anderson yes it is hahaha
Check out the name of the sub that's filming this! I guess it's not that deep here.
To much talk on garbage on sea floor, should concentrate on the sub
was there in june 2011
Did you send the body's back to Japan
Of course not. The US has only ever cared about themselves🙄 it’s disappointing. These comments attacking Japanese people are disgusting
If USS Ward attacked this sub BEFORE (almost 1.5 hours before) the start of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor naval base and the Army installations closer to the mountains, doesn't that technically make the US the initiator of hostilities with Japan.
No the Japanese military invaded the US waters. They initiated the hostilities.
Midget submarine #16 succeeded in launching two torpedo hits on West Virginia and Oklahoma. The submarine torpedoes were twice the size of the aerial torpedoes.
are they going to salvage it?