Thanks for Sharing... I Really Knew Nothing about these type of Shocks. I'm a Self Taught Mechanic with Over Forty Years of Experience. Always Something New.
Thank u for putting so much time into your Chanel. You do a excellent job. Filming, educating, you even throw in jokes . Great 👍 job. I have been watching your videos and I never really noticed that the shocks were legs dame good job. I never thought of my self as a rat rod builder until watching you. Then i realized what i am lol . I built a nova bird once it was a 70 nova with a 7-Eleven firbird front clip . It was a rusted reck lol witched turned into a bondo machine really didn't look bad . I took it as a project for a young man i was mentioning trying to keep him out of drugd and trouble it worked he stsyed out trouble took a year to build. He eventually sold it and kicks himself says he couldn't by it back they would not sell it . Lol
I once owned a 1955 Ford flat bed truck. One ton dually and it had a friction shock mounted to the back of the cab to soften the ride. Was cool I thought. It was a scissors type mechanism may have been just a spring. And yes you need the copper disks because we all love shinny buns 😊🤗. Steve Darnell at “ Weld er Up “ builds some wicked rides. Loves the diesel’s rollin coal. lol but $$$ 😅
I would. Put an anchor tab to the frame on the outer steel plate, then a 'star' spring washer over that with the center bolt being adjustable for tension, leather is a good friction material, if wood is used, traditionally birch is used
At 16:25 you need to have the cover plate on to get any appreciable friction addition from the second leather disc. PS the cover plate would need to be rotationally immobilized.
Your demonstration with the aluminum angle bars gave me a thought… if the nut and bolt parts were somehow attached to the shock arm and chassis respectively so that as it flexed it tightened down on the friction material and dampened progressively more would this not be an improvement over the original design?
Jeez, its been a while since I did that video... I need to go back and watch it again to understand exactly what you mean. Sorry brother, the beard is grey now...😄
thanks diff, well explained content, just a question do you think the leaf spring is strong enough to prevent side movement of the axle . I thing the solid knee prevent side movement in sharp cornering but as you explained will put your friction shocks under strain to buckle if you hit a speed hump at speed where the full axle is forced in a upward direction. what is your view if straight friction shock is in a horizontal/ parallel position to the axle with a shackle to the axle or will the friction movement be to small and the leverage distance to big.
We not talking race car engineering here...😂The spring will be strong enough, but you will have lateral movement which will cause some bump steer. This is the main disadvantage of simple transverse leaf spring setups and one of the reasons why it is not used anymore. The angle of the shackles play a big role - vertical shackles will be worse, best to keep shackle angle close to horizontal as I did. Horizontal/parallel friction shock position will work well and was a common way to do it. I have a photo of this somewhere that I could email to you? It wont eliminate lateral movement though. Friction movement depends on lever lengths. There are other ways in which to do it that will eliminate lateral movement, but it becomes complex... and we are just building rat rods!
Lol !!! Brother I don't know how many will notice lol but I am seeing lol 😆😅😂 something lol 😆😅😂 that most probably won't see lol you probably didn't have that in mind in your design but yes lol I am don't mean anything bad 😆😅😄 but it is humorous lol !!!! Would like to tell you but I have utmost respect for your videos !!! Thanks brother for the enlightening explanation of your design !!!! Hope yall have an awesome day say hi to everyone 😊
Hi Div, just a thought. If you had to install a small shock beween the "knees" will that not help in the sense of exponential dampening if I can put it that way? (It will also push down on the opsit wheel to level the car out?) Or if you had to install like a trampoline like spring between the "hips and ancles" ? If you had to travel far or at high speed..
It's an idea, but the knee joint actually has very little movement, not convinced it will make much of a difference. Not much to lose by trying it though 🙂
Thanks for Sharing... I Really Knew Nothing about these type of Shocks. I'm a Self Taught Mechanic with Over Forty Years of Experience. Always Something New.
Thank u for putting so much time into your Chanel. You do a excellent job. Filming, educating, you even throw in jokes . Great 👍 job. I have been watching your videos and I never really noticed that the shocks were legs dame good job. I never thought of my self as a rat rod builder until watching you. Then i realized what i am lol . I built a nova bird once it was a 70 nova with a 7-Eleven firbird front clip . It was a rusted reck lol witched turned into a bondo machine really didn't look bad . I took it as a project for a young man i was mentioning trying to keep him out of drugd and trouble it worked he stsyed out trouble took a year to build. He eventually sold it and kicks himself says he couldn't by it back they would not sell it . Lol
Pleasure man. And thanks for the kind words! Good on you for keeping the young dude out of trouble.
found your channel today i am in Alabama USA like it so far
Thank you Sir! Greetings from South Africa
Very creative idea and very unique design duff. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Fab On. Weld On. Keep making. God bless.
Thank you! Cheers!
I once owned a 1955 Ford flat bed truck. One ton dually and it had a friction shock mounted to the back of the cab to soften the ride. Was cool I thought. It was a scissors type mechanism may have been just a spring. And yes you need the copper disks because we all love shinny buns 😊🤗. Steve Darnell at “ Weld er Up “ builds some wicked rides. Loves the diesel’s rollin coal. lol but $$$ 😅
Dankie Diff ek het vandag iets geleer ek geniet jou program baie
Dankie Piet! Man is nooit te oud om iets te leer nie. 😅
Gives another idea on how to do shocks for old horrors.
Very informative! I learned a lot from you! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Cool man! Happy if I can add a little value
In Australia we often use cork. Cork floor tiles are 6mm thick and can easily be bought for about one dollar.
Might try that, thanks!
I would. Put an anchor tab to the frame on the outer steel plate, then a 'star' spring washer over that with the center bolt being adjustable for tension, leather is a good friction material, if wood is used, traditionally birch is used
Thanks for the feedback Dave!
Thank for the positive response, I've been a 'rat rod' lover for decades, 👍🤪
At 16:25 you need to have the cover plate on to get any appreciable friction addition from the second leather disc. PS the cover plate would need to be rotationally immobilized.
Yes, of course. Looks like you are new here, welcome to my shop! 🙂
Very interesting, thank you, really like your videos!
Glad you like them!
Your demonstration with the aluminum angle bars gave me a thought… if the nut and bolt parts were somehow attached to the shock arm and chassis respectively so that as it flexed it tightened down on the friction material and dampened progressively more would this not be an improvement over the original design?
Jeez, its been a while since I did that video... I need to go back and watch it again to understand exactly what you mean. Sorry brother, the beard is grey now...😄
Thanks for the Video it was an interesting watch. Just wondering if you tried other materials and concluded which one works best? Regards
thanks diff, well explained content, just a question do you think the leaf spring is strong enough to prevent side movement of the axle . I thing the solid knee prevent side movement in sharp cornering but as you explained will put your friction shocks under strain to buckle if you hit a speed hump at speed where the full axle is forced in a upward direction. what is your view if straight friction shock is in a horizontal/ parallel position to the axle with a shackle to the axle or will the friction movement be to small and the leverage distance to big.
We not talking race car engineering here...😂The spring will be strong enough, but you will have lateral movement which will cause some bump steer. This is the main disadvantage of simple transverse leaf spring setups and one of the reasons why it is not used anymore. The angle of the shackles play a big role - vertical shackles will be worse, best to keep shackle angle close to horizontal as I did. Horizontal/parallel friction shock position will work well and was a common way to do it. I have a photo of this somewhere that I could email to you? It wont eliminate lateral movement though. Friction movement depends on lever lengths. There are other ways in which to do it that will eliminate lateral movement, but it becomes complex... and we are just building rat rods!
Put a common plate join both bolts together doubles action
Yes! I've since changed it.
Lol !!! Brother I don't know how many will notice lol but I am seeing lol 😆😅😂 something lol 😆😅😂 that most probably won't see lol you probably didn't have that in mind in your design but yes lol I am don't mean anything bad 😆😅😄 but it is humorous lol !!!! Would like to tell you but I have utmost respect for your videos !!! Thanks brother for the enlightening explanation of your design !!!! Hope yall have an awesome day say hi to everyone 😊
😂 Thanks man!
Hi Div, just a thought. If you had to install a small shock beween the "knees" will that not help in the sense of exponential dampening if I can put it that way? (It will also push down on the opsit wheel to level the car out?) Or if you had to install like a trampoline like spring between the "hips and ancles" ? If you had to travel far or at high speed..
Interesting ideas! I might play with it at some point, but not exactly what you would call a high speed car...😂
I was thinking, why not put friction discs on the knee joint also? Just a thought.
It's an idea, but the knee joint actually has very little movement, not convinced it will make much of a difference. Not much to lose by trying it though 🙂
What was the material used on the original friction shocks ⚡️
Leather originally.
use hockey pucks
Not easy to find where I am!
Sorry mate but the elbow is supposed to be cracked otherwise it would be straight 🤣 ,have a Lekka one
😂
Thanks for the Video it was an interesting watch. Just wondering if you tried other materials and concluded which one works best? Regards
So far, leather seems to work best. I've heard of guys using hockey pucks, but haven't tried it